Yeah I can agree Freeze. The overall point that I want to make is that in today's day and age "the "heavy metal scene" is about "underground". Back in the 80's it was you got in a band

and tried to "make it".....if you didn't "make it" in about a year...then you "quit". Thats it. I don't think very many people realized that "making it" wasn't the #1 important thing.....the most

important thing was the "music".  The doom rock band "Pentagram" from the states is a perfect example of this. They never gave up and they never "made it"....but even today Bobby 

Liebling(lead vocalist) is extremely proud of Pentagram and they have had an underground cult following since the 70's with thier studio albums and live albums ect.   If a bunch of guys

want to get into "heavy metal" to make money...than they are in the wrong business. Sure you can get on a lable...today its easy,back then it was not.  But you will not be making much 

money at all.The odds of a band "making it big" in Heavy Metal and having lots of cash are very slim.  Getting into a heavy metal band is not much different then getting into a black metal

band or a death metal band...you only should do it because you love the music and have a passion for it....not to hope to try and become a millionare at "any costs"..and this includes 

dressing in tunnel hat clothing to go along with the producer of the record deal..ect.....And to answer Tasnam1's post........"this is whats wrong with the heavy metal scene today". 

		Deep Freeze wrote:
		I guess it comes down to what they are doing it for in the first place. I mean, if they are looking to make money, they are going to do what they must to make money. I have often said that I truly love "real" Metal. Old School Metal. Priest music. it is, by far, my favorite but I am also smart enough to know that "making it" is about what "it" means.... MONEY.  Unless your name is Halford, your chances of making a lot of money in Metal are VERY low. There are not a lot of albums flying off the shelves in that genre. Sad but true. It would seem that making money in music is easiest if you sing (speak?) through a synthesizer to pre-recorded music and have a half dozen lame dancers writhing around behind you doing some moronic, synchronized "moves". Not a lot of real "talent" there but, well ..you get the idea.  I guess the point is, what is it that a band or an act are looking for?  WHY do they do it? Fame? Money? Or simply to "express" themselves through music? If it is the latter, I don't suppose it matters if they are wearing leather or tutus but, ....well, it does. Seems to me that the MUSIC is far less important to the "buying" public.