I hear what you're saying. I guess I just have a bit more flexibility than most and usually aren't bothered by it that much unless it becomes obvious/blatant. I have been really trying to look back for some old albums from varying bands to just feel what it was like back in the 80s and early 90s. Quite frankly I am LOVING IT! 

If only they would get my copy of Agent Orange by Sodom ON TIME I wouldn't be in a slightly sour mood myself. Amazon is great, except when it comes to ordering imports cause that's when the delays happen more often than not for me. That's what is really ticking me off really right now, back to the subject of the thread.

		J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
		Well,I was there in the beginning of death metal and to be honest I don't consider "In Flames" a true real death metal band.I think Suffocation is death metal but this is why I don't like "death metal" because it used to be more like "black metal" in the early days.Nowadays death metal is plain short sleeve shirts with eh just wear just about anything and get up there and growl? Its just not the same as it once was.It used to be hidden and about not doing fucking videos! I only own a handful of death metal albums and the rest are black metal,heavy metal,thrash metal but only the old-school "elite" black metal albums and cds,not the new trendy shit.  Black metal is not what it used to be either as I was there in the beginning of black metal as well,Venom,Mercyful Fate,Bathory,Hellhammer,Celtic Frost,Sarcafago,Mayhem,Mortuary Drape...all in the 1980's and then with Mayhem's norwegian scene with Darkthrone,Immortal,Emperor,Gorgoroth,Carpathian Forest,Mutiilation,Abigor,Judas Iscariot...bands like this were true black metal until the scene was ruined with kids who were obsessed with wearing corpse paint like it was halloween or some shit like that. The internet is what really killed black metal because it was a portal for unworthy kids to try and fit in with this genre of something they were never a part of,I watched it all and watched it all crumble down to mainstream crap of today and it makes me sick. Bands like "Behemoth" used to be elite black metal as I still have  Sventivith Storming Near The Baltic  from 1995 and claim it as Behemoth's best album yet every time I mention this killer record to somebody who likes Behemoth they never even knew it existed? Its a joke to say the least and I've grown tired of it.Fuck off to "death metal" and the trendy commercial black metal scene as well.      Painkiller87 wrote:   I understand quite well about these things. Honestly I like a lot of the old school and newer death metal bands but the latter only a select few. I like Death, early In Flames, Suffocation and some bands like that. But I really love Amon Amarth because they are really well done music wise and though they have some commercial ties but at least they are awesome IMO. I mean I can go in detail about my likes and dislikes of death metal but I have to get back to work. Maybe at lunch time in a couple of hours.      J.D. DIAMOND wrote:   Here is the "shit video" of the new Behemoth.This is whats pissing me off lately,is fucking "Death Metal"...what the fuck happened to this once elite genre? Fucking A man,this video looks like something fucking Whitesnake would of done with the clean cut bitch in the video ect.... this shit is too clean and commercial for "death metal".  Behemoth also recently played at "Ozz Fest" on the second stage opening up for the shit tunnel hat crap trend band "Hatebreed" fuckin lame ass shit man.I remember when Morbid Angel released Altars Of Madness in 1989,I remember when Deicide released thier debut album in 1990,and the 1980's death metal like Protector,Onslaught's first album "Power Fron Hell"(1985)Hobbs Angel Of Death band,there was no shitty commercailism back then until Morbid Angel did Bleesed Are The Sick in 1991 and from then on it has sucked. Death Metal shouldn't have fucking "videos" like this,it a fuckin joke.Today when somebody asks me if I like death metal I say "FUCK NO". And all this shit music ....either its too fucking slow,or its out of control garble,at least with true elite black metal there are melodies within the chaos ect...totally more understandable with black metal but this trendy commercial death metal is a joke,I hate all of it.