Thats killer Freeze! Thats the last album I liked from Sepultura,the Chaos A.D. album was "ok" as well as the Roots album they had a few good tunes but the albums were not that great.The album Arise is thier best work in my opinion.They have sucked for years now but as you know they were once pretty good.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:49:05 PM)| |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Ooo! I actually had "Arise". Saw Sepultura here in Vegas in the early 90's in support of that album. GREAT show!!
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Make no mistake about it,Persecution Mania is elite,excellent and anything but boring and samey,this album alone influenced Sepultura to harken a change in style as is obviously heard in 1989's Beneath The Remains and 1991's Arise...big time these albums were influenced by listening to Sodom's Persecution Mania. All of Sodom's albums are not good,but Persecution Mania and Agent Orange are excellent,Tapping The Vien 1992 is also a great album I've had for years.
| | | kiamat wrote: | | Its a good track though- Actually I don't think I've heard any of Sodom's stuff before. I like the really heavy end of old-school thrash and stuff like this but I don't own much of it because thats so much that's either rubbish or samey- I guess you have to know which bands and albums to listen so you don't get put off. I check out the bands properly (now I have spotify its so much easier) when I get the chance.
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Damn straight. I love how this album starts. Just an awesome album overall!
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Here is Onslaught "Power From Hell" 1985the first album....everything after this album is lame because they changed members in the band and ect...but this debut album I still have on LP that I bought in 1985 when it was brand new and on the back it says "Death Metal At It's Heaviest". I look back on this album now and think wow this was real death metal,and they had spikes,black leather jackets,chains,studs,boots..ect..total fuckin metal not just sweat pants jogging sweats with a t-shirt up on stage boring the crowd,back then the underground of death metal and black metal used to support true metal aesthetics unlike today,a few still support it but half of them don't and I think it "SUCKS".
Sodom are thrash but they are a black thrash in my eyes and hell yeah Agent Orange 1989 is fuckin killer and thier best is 1987 debut album "Persecution Mania" in my opinion that album is fuckin awsome also includes a top notch version of Iron Fist from Motorhead!
(Quoting Message by Painkiller87 from Wednesday, February 17, 2010 2:14:32 PM)
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I hear what you're saying. I guess I just have a bit more flexibility than most and usually aren't bothered by it that much unless it becomes obvious/blatant. I have been really trying to look back for some old albums from varying bands to just feel what it was like back in the 80s and early 90s. Quite frankly I am LOVING IT! 
If only they would get my copy of Agent Orange by Sodom ON TIME I wouldn't be in a slightly sour mood myself. Amazon is great, except when it comes to ordering imports cause that's when the delays happen more often than not for me. That's what is really ticking me off really right now, back to the subject of the thread.
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Well,I was there in the beginning of death metal and to be honest I don't consider "In Flames" a true real death metal band.I think Suffocation is death metal but this is why I don't like "death metal" because it used to be more like "black metal" in the early days.Nowadays death metal is plain short sleeve shirts with eh just wear just about anything and get up there and growl? Its just not the same as it once was.It used to be hidden and about not doing fucking videos! I only own a handful of death metal albums and the rest are black metal,heavy metal,thrash metal but only the old-school "elite" black metal albums and cds,not the new trendy shit.
Black metal is not what it used to be either as I was there in the beginning of black metal as well,Venom,Mercyful Fate,Bathory,Hellhammer,Celtic Frost,Sarcafago,Mayhem,Mortuary Drape...all in the 1980's and then with Mayhem's norwegian scene with Darkthrone,Immortal,Emperor,Gorgoroth,Carpathian Forest,Mutiilation,Abigor,Judas Iscariot...bands like this were true black metal until the scene was ruined with kids who were obsessed with wearing corpse paint like it was halloween or some shit like that.
The internet is what really killed black metal because it was a portal for unworthy kids to try and fit in with this genre of something they were never a part of,I watched it all and watched it all crumble down to mainstream crap of today and it makes me sick. Bands like "Behemoth" used to be elite black metal as I still have Sventivith Storming Near The Baltic from 1995 and claim it as Behemoth's best album yet every time I mention this killer record to somebody who likes Behemoth they never even knew it existed? Its a joke to say the least and I've grown tired of it.Fuck off to "death metal" and the trendy commercial black metal scene as well.
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I understand quite well about these things. Honestly I like a lot of the old school and newer death metal bands but the latter only a select few. I like Death, early In Flames, Suffocation and some bands like that. But I really love Amon Amarth because they are really well done music wise and though they have some commercial ties but at least they are awesome IMO. I mean I can go in detail about my likes and dislikes of death metal but I have to get back to work. Maybe at lunch time in a couple of hours.
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Here is the "shit video" of the new Behemoth.This is whats pissing me off lately,is fucking "Death Metal"...what the fuck happened to this once elite genre? Fucking A man,this video looks like something fucking Whitesnake would of done with the clean cut bitch in the video ect.... this shit is too clean and commercial for "death metal".
Behemoth also recently played at "Ozz Fest" on the second stage opening up for the shit tunnel hat crap trend band "Hatebreed" fuckin lame ass shit man.I remember when Morbid Angel released Altars Of Madness in 1989,I remember when Deicide released thier debut album in 1990,and the 1980's death metal like Protector,Onslaught's first album "Power Fron Hell"(1985)Hobbs Angel Of Death band,there was no shitty commercailism back then until Morbid Angel did Bleesed Are The Sick in 1991 and from then on it has sucked.
Death Metal shouldn't have fucking "videos" like this,it a fuckin joke.Today when somebody asks me if I like death metal I say "FUCK NO". And all this shit music ....either its too fucking slow,or its out of control garble,at least with true elite black metal there are melodies within the chaos ect...totally more understandable with black metal but this trendy commercial death metal is a joke,I hate all of it. |
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