Oh my lord man you just cant take no for answer can you?
Remixing an album (that needed it badly) thats over a decade old to release again because it is out of print isn't a cash grab.
Of course he's selling it. Why wouldn't he.............. it costs a lot of money to make this stuff........
Rock In Rio isn't an album........... its a DVD. There is no official audio release for that............. the two live Halford albums are Live Insurrection and Live In Anaheim. Holy fuck man.
Whats the problem with purchasing the same album (a way better version) that you bought for probably half the price over a decade ago? Again, Cheap fucker.
No 95% of the time is exaggerating a bit dont you think? I've heard many bonus tracks from tons of bands that are better then most of the songs on the album. There's a difference between Japanese bonus tracks and putting stuff on that you shelved 30 years ago.
I will enjoy my brand new products and the re-released ones as well. Because now, I dont have to inconvience myself getting that extra content because its ALL on one package. And it sure as fuck isn't expensive either.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, April 27, 2010 6:48:35 PM)| |  | jimmyjames wrote: | | Ok.
#1. I'll ignore that.
#2, #3. I can understand rereleasing albums that are out of print for the benefit of new fans and people that don't have a copy and if your going to do that then absolutely remaster it. Why not take full advantage of the technology available. But if you're going to remix it so it's different from the original, i don't think that's on. That is something that you do to encourage people who already have the album to buy it again.
#4. He's not giving them anything, he's selling it.
#5. Live Insurrection, Live at Rock In Rio 3, Live at Anaheim.
#6. I can understand putting an extra track or two on an album for people who have to pay more for the product. It's not really fair on those that don't have to pay more but there it is. Things are looking up though, fans who didn't have to pay more for the original album now have the chance of getting the bonus tracks by purchasing the album again. Sweet.
I have to disagree with you on bonus tracks too. 95% of the time they are tracks that didn't make the cut on the original album and usually for good reason ( see the bonus tracks on the Priest remasters)
I'm not a "cheap fucker". Quite the opposite actually.
#7 Diehard fans usually do buy everything a band brings out. That's what makes them diehards. I really hope you enjoy your new Halford products. I"ll keep on enjoying my old ones.
(Quoting Message by Bazookajoe_666 from Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:28:57 PM)
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Oh for fucks sakes man are you seriously doing this?
Now I gotta repeat everything I just said because your negative attitude can't seem to understand what is happening right now.
Fact #1.
You're a fucking douchebag.
#2. A Small Deadly Spacae wasn't released as a substandard product. An album is a band's mindset and vision at the time. Thats what they created. Most bands dont have the opportunity to go back and change stuff due to master tapes being lost and record contracts, rights, etc etc. Rob Halford acquired the rights and masteres to ALL his solo work recently. What would you do in that situation as a MUSICIAN who wants to express his art that is no longer available? RELEASE IT AGAIN DUMBASS. He's not guilty of putting out a substandard product, you're just a childish twat that wants the last word. Grow up. Its how people making MONEY. TO LIVE. Seriously, its amazing how fucking ignorant your being to me telling you that the remix is BETTER, and you just say "Pfft, no its not, your stupid, this is gay." You haven't even heard it. Did you even listen to the youtube clip I posted here? I really doubt you did. Seriously man, grow up.
#3. Every single one of his albums has been out of print for years. He's re-released them in NEW and improved formats, different verions for those who dont want to own the same product a couple times, etc etc.
#4. Rob isn't ripping the fans off. He's GIVING them back something they could no longer acquire. How's is that ripping them off? Or are you really that fucking cheap? These albums have not been available in stores for YEARS. Some of them over a decade. If you had the rights and the power to give thousands of people something they're all screaming for, would you give it to them? The thing is he's doing a lot more then just giving them the same thing again, he's making an overall better package, tweaking things that make it better, adding new audio and even artwork. Thats well worth buying it again a fucking DECADE later if you ask me.
#5. Where are you getting 3 live albums from out of the Halford catalogue. Last time I checked there is TWO live albums. Live Insurrection and the new 2 disc live set of the DVD coming out.
#6. Do you even understand why albums are released with bonus tracks? Obviously you dont from the way your talking about them. Bonus tracks are 100% of the time released in places like Japan and Russia and occasionally Europe because they PAY MORE for the albums. Why not give them a little something extra to compensate for the extra cost? Thats the whole point of bonus tracks. Rob's putting those bonus tracks on the albums now so that EVERYONE has a fair chance to get them. Its not a matter of why they weren't good enough in the first place, because they're obviously amazing fucking songs, its a gift to people that pay more for the album. Not cheap fuckers like yourself.
#7. Die hard fans won't and will not buy every single thing. I consider myself a die hard fan of Rob Halford associated things in general. I dont have every single Priest album. I dont have every single thing Rob's ever done. Am I gonna buy these 3 new releases? Fucking right I am, because there a WAYY BETTER PRODUCT THEN WHAT I ALREADY HAVE. Why WOULDN"T I buy Crucible remixed/remastered? Its got a better sound/production, its got more songs, more and new artwork and linear notes. Whats NOT to like?
Anyway enjoy your 10 year old Cd's. I can only imagine what kind of shit you'll reply to me with. Thing is everything I said is true, everything you've said so far is a piss poor attitude grasping for anything to fling at me to shut me down. That's called being a douchebag.
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Well if you think the remixed version of Small Deadly Space is that much better why did Halford release a substandard original product. Obviously the production techniques have improved but if it's as good as you say it is he is guilty of putting out a substandard product and ripping off the fans.
I can't understand how three studio albums can warrant three live albums.
This practice of re-releasing albums with bonus tracks that didn't make the original cut stinks, it is a practice designed to sell the album again. If they weren't good enough then why now? Also rereleasing an album with a new track sucks too, do 1/10 of the work and make the same amount of money as you would if you wrote a whole new album because die-hard fans will want to have everything and buy it again. It's parasitic.
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You would want to purchase the album again because the remix is a million times better then the original? Like I just said. Remixes are DIFFERENT from the original. Its the songs reworked and in this case the remix is way better then the original. Production wise, vocal wise, instrument wise, arrangement wise, its ALL better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq6khIFk5Bc
And the main reason Halford is releasing all this stuff again IS BECAUSE ITS OUT OF PRINT. When was the last time you saw this shit in a music store? I for one personally can't wait for the Anaheim DVD and double live album because its gonna be fucking amazing.
Also can't wait for the Crucible remix/remaster because it DOES sound better, and it also has ALL of the Crucible songs you previously could only get on the Jap or Euro versions.
Is that not reason enough?
I'm not a picky person at all but when they is an overall BETTER product out there, why not get the best one available?
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No because I already own Fights two studio albums and resent the fact that Halford is trying to sell them to me again. And I don't really think Small Deadly Space was that good anyway so why would I want to purchase a remixed version of it.
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Well thats not narrowminded at all.
Have you heard the remix of A Small deadly Space that comes in the Fight boxset? Its like a completely different album. AMAZING album as well.
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Here's what Halfords put out.
Resurrection (good), Crucible (good) and the lamo Winter Songs ( shit ). Three Studio albums plus Live Insurrection, Live Insurrection Remastered, Live at Rock In Rio, Live at Anaheim, Crucible Remastered and Metal God Essentials which has Fight and Halford tracks on it.
Also with Fight, War Of Words (good ),, Small Deadly Space (shit ), and Mutations ( shit ) which is four live tracks and four remixed tracks from War Of Words ( which are basically Fight wishing they were Fear Factory ), War Of Words The Demos ( why the fuck would anyone want the fucking demos when they have the album ) and Into The Pit the box set containing War Of Words, Small Deadly Space and Mutations plus a bonus dvd.
It's a crock of shit, a rip off and a con. And Small Deadly Space and Winter Songs are fucking bad albums.
I have War Of Words, Small Deadly Space, Resurrection, Crucible and Live Insurrection and don't think I need any more.
Stop ripping off the fans and put out either a new Halford album with no Christmas carols or a new Priest album where the only concept is loud, fast and heavy.
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Blah,well in my opinion it was ridiculous for Halford to remix and remaster the Crucible CD that was just created only 8 years ago? I mean to me the original CD sounds absolutely fine,and in my opinion its just another way of making an extra buck off the fans. Whats next,they release the Crucible CD with 5 different album covers and you'll have to buy all 5 or your not a true fan blah blah blah? lol!!!
I'm one of the very few who are sickened and tired of all these remastered box-sets of albums that I already have,I'm tired of bands releasing shit that is rehashed in a slightly different format,and I'm also one of the very few who are tired of seeing bands preform an old album in its entirety. But I realize that many people are excited about these kind of things and so be it. The only thing that I'm interested in is a band that I like putting out a brand new album that is worthy,other than that I'll save my cash.
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Crucible needed the remaster badly. Same as A Small Deadly Space. They both sound a million times better production wise now being reMIXED and mastered. Eveyrthing is less muddied and more upfront.
Now Resurrection on the other hand, THAT didn't need a remaster haha.
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The remix and remaster of Cruicible? Wasn't that CD released in 2002? I mean if it was released in 1982 then I can see it but 2002 Joe? Only 8 years ago? To you that may seem like another life time but trust me,its not and I find it irritating that its been remastered!! lol! Whats next,Angel Of Retribution remastered? lol!
I'm just so sick of all these remasterd and remixed albums these days,I'd rather listen the the "shitty" version of these albums..."the originals". lol!!!
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