They wear all that armour because they're soft.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Friday, June 18, 2010 3:56:25 PM)| |  | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, I sure as hell dont understand you, Freeze... I mean, tahts what the group stage is for in football tournaments - same as the series thing. Algeria sucked against us, but they came back and were great against England today. Serbia sucked in the first game, but they came back and beaten the Germans today. Thats whats its all about - you dont send a team home right away - you wait until they all played a bit, and then it really turns out who deserves to go on, and who deserves to stay.
Personaly, I only ever watched American Football once (a local sports channel made a brave attempt to promote it here, but crashed and burned after a few weeks of crap ratings), and yeah, it kinda looks like a war. A bunch of guys in armor, piling up on each other, and looking pretty miserable and clueless. Then again, Im looking at it like you look at our football, so I guess we will just have to leave it at that.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Baseball is awesome. I am sure you have heard the term, "the game within the game"...? It actually IS full throttle in its own way. Out guessing the opponent. Putting on plays. Clutch hitting, fielding and focused pitching. Working around an opponent's strengths and exploiting the weaknesses. Much more than throwing and hitting but I was really referring more to AMERICAN football where there is savage violence and all out war. WINNING at all costs!!
As for the series thing, it is simply to determine the BEST team overall, not just the best one on THAT day. Anyone can beat anyone, it is said. By playing five or seven games, the "cream rises" as it were.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Then how the hell can you watch baseball. It's hardly full throttle. Also in American sports why is the final result best out of 7 or whatever. Why not just have one game, Baseball, Hockey and Basketball all have a final series rather than a one off. How can you watch?
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | In theory, yes. You are right. BOTH sides play to win. However, I have seen professional teams playing "NOT to lose". Playing it safe. Not taking chances. Whatever. For me, you do whatever you can, including cheat! If you aint cheatin, you aint tryin....HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! Fact is, you do what you can and try what you can and hope you get away with it. WINNING is what matters. If they did away with this silly "points" nonsense and required losers to GO HOME you might see a significant increase in passion, my friend!
I am not much for all of the subtleties. I like passionate, full throttle action. I like kill or be killed mentality. I like that raw, take no prisoners attitude. For me, professional sport is about winning at all costs. WIN WIN WIN. Nothing else is acceptable.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Oh, come on... Both sides play to win, and sometimes it just happens that both sides are equally good. Besides, when there has to be a winner there are tiebreakers. Right now, they play for points.
As far as refs are concerned.. Sometimes refs do influence the outcome of the match. If it wasnt for refs, France wouldnt even be on the cup, thats how much they can influence things. But yeah, no point dwelling on it, and the human element thing is interesting, I must say.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | It is yelloW, strat. I have NO idea what the other is!! HA!!!!!!!!!!!
Like I said, I watched the stupid game and I have NO idea what happened. Ties ("draws") blow. That is all there is to it. You play to WIN. Winning is ALL there is. It is the reason you play! Anything less is FAILURE, especially at this level!!! You do whatever you must to win. ANYTHING. Ties and whatnot are for children in schoolyards. No hurt feelings. Mommy makes it all better, etc.
And as I mentioned, I never feel it is right to blame a referee. They are not PLAYING. They are OFFICIATING. I actually LIKE the "human element". Mistakes are part of sport, for both for players AND officials. It makes things interesting. It keeps it "real". |
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