Yes I agree. I don't want them to "copy" an album or copy Angel Of Retribution no,but alls I'm saying is that it doesn't have to have a Painkiller sound or a Painkiller swagger to be better than Painkiller.I agree with everything you've just said.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, September 10, 2010 10:33:17 PM)| |  | spapad wrote: | | AOR was a great one. To have them back and get that jewel in return was fantasic. I agree nobody wanted Lochness, but the rest was solid. I loved it.
If you want to say AOR went back to the days Rob was with them no doubt, but it was better than some of those records. Not the best, but enough to make us all sit up and PAY ATTENTION once again. Let's face it, most of us die hard fans got non participant when Rob left, most of us HATED Ripper! The song writing suffered without Rob and the ideas seem to just implode into the populus of music. Horrible way for such a time honored band to go.
I must say in defense of Halford it's a good thing we were all so disenchanted, because if we had not been Resurrection whould have been Rob's break out album and put him at the top again.
Thanks to us completely narrow minded fans, Priest came back together! Rob now gets to have his cake and eat it too, and I for one could not be Happier with the situation as it is now!
I expect Rob to return to JP with his ideas and all new material and deliver a rock solid performance on an awesome studio album. Weather he can keep up those screams in concert anymore remains to be seen. It's too much to ask of a 20 year old much less a man of his age, but to be certain, he will do his best on record and we will get his best.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | No not at all hellrider,you are entitled to your opinion just as anybody else is. But yes,I think to 99% of Judas Priest fans saying "Demonizer" doesn't feel like Priest will leave each and every one scratching thier heads.But there are people out there who think that Painkiller isn't really Judas Priest either,usually old fans in thier mid 50's or early 60's but everybody has thier own opinion. I'm just absolutely glad that I am one of the fans who like the entire Angel Of Retribution album except for Lochness.
To me Angel Of Retribution ranks in at number # 5 when I think of the band's best albums and barely tops Defenders Of The Faith,even if Defenders tops it then Angel Of Retribution would be at # 6 out of 16 studio albums so I'm very lucky to have an album I like thats within the 6 best Priest albums of all time.For you and others it may rank somewhere around 12 or so,it is what it is. But alls I'm really saying is that the next album may not have a Painkiller sound or style.
And spapad.....they kind of did go back in time with the Angel Of Retribution album and remember the band members saying they were trying to achieve a sound that would fit in with Screaming For Vengeance and Defenders Of The Faith and if you think about it Angel Of Retribution does have that type of sound that fits inbetween Screaming For Vengeance's sound and Defenders Of The Faith's sound like the band members said it would be.
Hellrider 30138,they may do an album like this,you will be utterly disappointed if they do...are you prepared for this?lol!
(Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Friday, September 10, 2010 9:56:58 PM)
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JUST GIVING YOU MY HONEST OPINION.
all ofl the PRIEST BACK CATOLOG FEEL LIKE PRIEST TO ME WITH THE METAL GOD minus a couple AND DO ALOT FOR ME SOME MORE THAN OTHERS BUT demonizer does not have that PRIEST feel to me.
HELLRIDER DOES HAVE THAT PRIEST FEEL TO ME. .lol.
you guys probably think i am fuc?ed in the head lol.no offence intended again just giving you my honest opinion.
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I scratch my head on that one as well. DEMONIZER doesn't feel like Priest? What?!!
How about Sad Wings? Does the SINNAHHH do anything for you? How about Jawbreaker? Man, I would KILL for something of that calibur on the next album.
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THIS NEXT PRIEST BEAST METAL MONSTER WILL SMOKE THE PAINKILLER
judas rising and demonizer dont even feel like PRIEST to me
man was i ever disapointed with that album no offence of coarse
atleast we got HELLRIDER
I FUC?EN LOVE THE ENTIRE MIGHTY PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINKILLLLLLLLLLER album except for touch of evil sure those others are not QUITE as intense but they are stil very powerfull .
perhaps HELLRIDER was a leftover from the MIGHTY PAAAAAAAAAAAAAINKILLLLLLLLLLLLER album.
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But they haven't really ever made an album like what your describing hellrider,even Painkiller isn't as heavy as you describe. I really don't think that Hell Patrol,Leather Rebel,Night Crawler,Between The Hammer & The Anvil,A Touch Of Evil,Battle Hymn or One Shot At Glory are really that in your face rip em' up hard core and thats 7 songs from the Painkiller album. I think the only 3 songs like this for as heavy as british heavy metal can go is the song "Painkliier","All Guns Blazing" and "Metalmeltdown".
But I do think that Judas Rising and Demonizer are actually "heavier" than those 7 songs off the Painkiller album.I think the song Demonizer is as heavy as any track from the Painkiller album yet it doesn't have that Painkiller sound,neither does the song hellrider. I understand that your hoping that for the first time in history the band will put out "ALL" songs like the song "Painkiller" but that is a "long shot" my friend,the odds of this are extremely against it but if they did pull it off without going into fucking thrash then that would be cool,but they have always been a band of variety and again,look at those 7 songs from the Painkiller album I listed,they are really not that hard core.I guess if they don't make the Painkiller sound then you and Brian will be butt hurt and I understand why,but if the album is of excellent "quality" tracks like Judas Rising or Demonizer 80% of the album then most of us will flip out for it!!
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what you are describing sounds like another angel of retribution album if it is i will only buy 1 copy as it will only get listened to a couple times and then be forgotten about except for the real 1 monster on there HELLRIDER .
HEY COMMANDER I DONT EXPECT THEM RECORD IT IN A DAY AND PLAY THE ENTIRE ALBUM ON ITS TOUR ON EACH TOUR DATE ALL OVER THE WORLD .THEY ONLY NEED TO RECORD IT ONCE TAKING THERE TIME .THEY CAN FUC?EN DO IT MAN.
FUC?EN DYING OVER HERE FOR ANOTHER HARD CORE PRIEST ALBUM FULL ON AND IN MY FACE.
NOBODY DELIVERS IT LIKE THE PRIEST
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Well,I guess for hellrider 31038 and Brian Evans if this next Judas Priest album isn't as strong and doesn't have the "Painkiller swagger" then the album will "suck".And thats ok,thats ok, I'm not saying that they can't have this opinion,thats fine and I get it. One word: "WOW".
Well,the 2 of you will be disappointed if it doesn't turn out like Painkiller but if it turns out great classic songs as heavy as "Judas Rising" or "Demonizer" or "Hellrider" with a few tracks as good as "Hell Bent For Leather" and "Freewheel Burning" with the Angel Of Retribution sound mixed with it's original sound I think 95% of fans will flip over it,I know I would.
Sure I'm a fan of "Painkiller" but I guess being into black metal and death metal from the early 80's the Painkiller album is rather "tame" compared to classic black metal releases. I don't think Judas Priest is really a "hard core" band,and I don't think the Painkiller album is "hard core" all the way through. Leather Rebel was not that far off of Defenders sound,Between The Hammer & The Anvil is basic classic Judas Priest as well as A Touch Of Evil,Battle Hymn and One Shot At Glory.Even Night Crawler has much melody over extreme hard heavy metal.
The 4 songs on Painkiller that are the most extreme heavy metal at it's limit are the tracks : "Painkiller,Hell Patrol,All Guns Blazing and Metal Meltdown and now I'm thinking Hell Patrol isn't as heavy as the other 3 mentioned. Even Jugulator wasn't blistering all the way through,I don't think that at age 60 the Metal Gods will deliver 10 straight tracks of the intensity of "Painkiller"(the song) or "Metal Meltdown" if they did "without going into thrash" then that would kick ass,but if they churn out tracks like "Between The Hammer And The Anvil" or "A Touch Of Evil" or "Wheels Of Fire" mixed with heavy ass tracks of quality without a Painkiller swagger then I'm ok with that.
We'll see with the first single from the new album whenever that may be,if its not Painkiller-like then Brian and hellrider31038 can save thier money and simply "not buy the album".Its that simple.Think of it this way,if the new album doesn't turn out like Painkiller then at least they can't take away the copy of Painkiller from you and you can pump Judas Priest's Painkiller and sell every other disc since they are not like Painkiller including "Unleashed In The East".
But We'll see what is delivered,I just think that now I have a better chance at getting a british heavy metal masterpiece with this next album because if it turns out like Angel Of Retribution or Defenders Of The Faith then I'll be in the same spot that Nostradamus fans are in now,I always envy those Nostradamus fans because "to them" they received a masterpiece from my favorite band that has more albums than just "Painkiller".....Judas Priest!!!
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