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TOPIC: The NFL Thread for 2009
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, September 18, 2010 1:13:02 PM 
LOL! Ron.....yes Joe had a great team,but Steve Young couldn't do what Joe did,sure he won a Super Bowl ring and it was against the lowly weak SanDiego Chargers! lol! And I don't just say that Joe is the best because John Madden says so,I've followed Joe throughout his entire Career! 

And Ron...Joe did NOT fall "flat on his face" with the Chiefs,he took that team all the way to the AFC Champinionship game,one game away from the super bowl ron!!!  The next season he took them to the wild card playoffs and lost to Miami,but at least they made it to the playoffs.

And Favre won at the Jets? They didn't even make the playoffs when he went to the Jets!  Farve had a great cast around him at Green bay too. Farve is great I agree,he has all the records to prove it...including the most interceptions ever thrown HAHA!!

And jim Kelly yes,I used to hate that guy because he beat every team I liked in the playoffs but he was absolutely NOT "one place kicker away from being a 4 time Super Bowl winner himself"...not even close,he was a place kicker away from beating the Giants (Buffalow's first Super bowl)...the other 3 Super Bowls in a row...they got thier asses kicked! LOL!  But I still rate Kelly in the top 5 QBs.

Montana retired when he was 38,but he had a severe back injury,wrist,shoulder..ect....much more than Favre ever had. Montana was better than Favre in my book,but I'm not here to convince you other wise,I know who the best is HAHA!!!

It takes a team to win,and Montana didn't win by himself,yes he had an incredible cast around him,but I saw him make plays in the clutch when it was up to him and his choices of where to throw to and when....something Favre and many other QB's have not been able to do including Steve Young and Brett Favre.

Joe made many of these "clutch" throws and because of them,he took the 49ers to 4 Super Bowls and won them all with 3 Super bowl MVPs. (7 NFC Championship game appearences as well). I've never seen anything like Joe since.

Yes there are many greats,I'm not saying Montana is "far" above other QBs,but he is just out of reach at the top for other qb's to get to.Yes the only other QB that has 4 Super Bowl rings is Terry Bradshaw,and that guy was excellent,not as high of passer rating as Joe,but still great.I think Steve Young actually had a higher passer rating than Joe did,but Joe overall was the all time great.  I'd say the best 5 qbs of all time would be: And I'm not just giving credit because the QB played in a Super Bowl,I'm giving them credit for thier achievements throughout thier careers:

Joe Montana(4 Super Bowls wins,3 Super Bowl MVPs)
 
John Elway  (the only qb to play in 5 Super bowls,won the last 2 back to back)

Terry Bradshaw(4 Super bowl wins)

Tom Brady(4 Super Bowl appearences and 3 titles)

Jim Kelly(4 straight Super Bowl appearences,no titles but pretty impressive)

I'd put Favre at #6.(2 Super bowl appearences,one title) 

Joe Montana made the smartest choices when passing the football,I saw it,yet others will say "he just had a great team"......if that were ture,than Steve Young would of won 6 Super bowls.

This is all just my opinion Ron,and I will accept that for you Favre is the best,thats all good,but I always defend Joe Montana! I do hope Favre  takes the Vikings to the Super Bowl,but that just aint gonna happen,it would be too good to be true,the Saints will go back to the big dance this year unfortunately.




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