Thoughts? Of course. Its pretty quite simple Guido,lets face it...Saxon's quality of music in the 1980's was nowhere near the "kick ass factor" that Judas Priest had,and Iron Maiden "had"....with albums like Unleashed In The East,British Steel,Screaming For Vengeance and Defenders Of The Faith(1979 - 1984) and Iron Maiden 1980 debut ,Killers,The Number Of The Beast,Piece Of Mind and Powerslave......and Motorhead's Bomber,Ace Of Spades,Iron Fist albums....
These albums in my opinion and many others were and are better than Saxon's first 5 studio albums from thier debut album "Saxon" in 1979,Wheels Of Steel 1980,Strong Arm Of The Law,Denim & Leather and Power & The Glory(1983.)
Sure these Saxon albums are cool yes,but they are not as "good" as the other band's albums,they are just not and then you had Saxon's image,it spanked of "cheese" and they looked silly.They just couldn't top Priest,Maiden and Motorhead. That is "why" Guido but the dagger for Saxon was in 1984 with thier 6th studio album "Crusader" ...sure the song 'Crusader" is total classic Saxon and is one hell of a kick ass song and I mean that,but the rest of the entire album "sucked balls" and they went "glam" with the rest of the album's sound and the band's image,it just sucked.
Then they did Innosence Is No Excuse in 1985 and that album full blown "sucked",it is utterly terrible.Then in 1986 they did the shitty "Rock The Nations" album with the same glam crap,then again in 1988 with "Destiny". So from 1984 to 1989 they killed themselves out of the scene they were really never able to uphold popularity in,in the first place and rightfully so with those shitty albums.
Even if they didn't go "glam" and kept putting out albums like Wheels Of Steel with old guitarist Grahm Oliver they still wouldn't of been in the same quality elite group of Judas Priest,Iron Maiden and Motorhead obviously.
Although in 1990 and 1992 with Solid Ball Of Rock and Forever Free albums they were only half good and still didn't harness a "kick ass factor". It wasn't untill 1995 that Saxon started "kicking some ass" and they released Dogs Of War with 10 tracks,7 of them kick ass,3 were glammy left-overs but they were headed in the right direction. Then in 1997 the Unleash The Beast album totally kicked ass man,again with Metalhead album in 99' then Killing Ground,Lionheart,The Inner Sanctum and Into The Labyrinth(2009)....
I belive if Saxon would of been putting these albums out in the early 80's with the band's now-a-days image of black cloths and leather jackets ect....I think they would of "took off" a little bit more Guido...no not as much and not as popular as Judas Priest,Maiden or Motorhead but yeah I really think that they would of taken flight a little more with the metal fans of the 1980's back then.
Imagine if Lionheart was released in 1983 with the band's current image,next to albums like Piece of Mind,Sceaming For Vengeance,Holy Diver,Iron Fist...ect...it would of made a much bigger impression with metal fans....again they still wouldn't be as "popular" as Priest,Maiden or Motorhead but it would of been much more exposure for them back then. I was being a smart ass when I said Priest should take lessons from Saxon,but I still belive that because of how Saxon puts out an album every 2 years man!! lol!
Not to mention,yes Judas Priest is better than Saxon obviously and yes they are my favorite band but Saxon has been so,so much more "consistant" with "quality" releases of studio albums these last 15 years,they actually wipe up the floor with Judas Priest and Iron Maiden with "quality" studio albums these last 15 years except for Angel Of Retibution which is just as good as Saxon's last 7 studio albums,better in some cases.
Its a shame that Saxon are really not heard of these days,they deserve so much more yet they NEVER complain about any of this,they just love what they are doing and keep British Heavy Metal alive with thier brand of hard rock and heavy metal. Anybody who thinks they are not worthy,I'd challenge them to watch and listen to the Wacken concert 2001 in Germany that they headlined with about 30 or 40 thousand heavy metal fans ,thats in the Saxon Chronicles DVD,check it out Guido.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:54:29 PM)
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I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
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Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
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