I originally took that digital copy only for myself as well, but then I thought "it's been out of print for 17 years, the band and the record label are no longer receiving any money from it's sales, and no DVD reissue is in sight (and probably never will)". So, I then decided to upload it. I had previously shared a few out-of-print single B-sides on my site, but when the Single Cuts boxset was announced, I immediately removed them as an official CD release was to be soon available. I would do exactly the same if the Metal Works VHS received a reissue in any form. And no, the Finnish copyright laws aren't any more relaxed than in the USA, but so far I've avoided any trouble.
I love the band and am usually against sharing official material over the internet. If someone puts their whole official discography/videography (that you can easily buy legally from anywhere) on the net (just Google search and you get tons of results), I loathe it. If someone sells bootlegs, I loathe it as well. But if someone shares a release that's been out-of print for over a decade, the band no longer receives any money from it (as all the copies on the market are second-hand) and it isn't receiving a reissue anytime soon, let's just say that I won't feel too bad about it. I did think about putting the VHS-rip on the web for quite a while, but if it offends the other fans too much, I can still remove it. Would only take a couple of minutes, it's a pretty crappy rip anyway...
Oh and J.D. Diamond, I'm not going to buy the Chosen Few, even though I bought the Single Cuts boxset. That compilation offers nothing new to me, unlike the boxset which at least has single B-sides I couldn't have gotten before because of my young age (and lack of funds - old vinyl singles are pretty expensive these days).That's why I haven't bought any Judas Priest compilations at all - I could always make the exact same compilation from the albums I've already bought.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, September 30, 2011 11:02:31 PM)| |  | guidogodoy wrote: | | Like I said, I am with you about the dubious reason as to why Priest is releasing these new "Best of" albums. Certainly isn't because of illegal downloading, to be sure.
The rule that is has been the norm (in both the US and Canada) is that you can legally "transcode" a video / music you legally own. It has always been the case and a major reason as to why the digital media rights mafia hasn't been able to go all that far in either country (they do not just govern one country, they claim to "protect" all intellectual property worldwide). Big problem was CSS - the original "scramble" protection code. THAT was made illegal. They shut down many an international site that either sold or gave away a DE-CSS program (i.e. rip). Odd rule. You could, in theory, own a copy of the same movie or album for personal use on various devices (iPhone, PSP, backup) but it was / is illegal to circumvent the CSS code. Go figger. Look at the debate over Pirate Bay for a good discussion of the subject.
Exactly why a great many movies, albums and games have gone "protection-free." Canada is just now making a show about a law that is already on the books.
Nupe's comment about "ripping" JP's "Metal Works" is a misnomer. He transcoded it from one format to another. I own the NTSC version of it and digitized it years ago. It never had protection, thus, perfectly legal for me to make a backup. NOT legal (in the US...Finland is another case) to share it openly as it is copyrighted material. In certain countries, though. That is why many servers have moved to more "share friendly" countries that are out of reach of current international law.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | canada just changed or is planning to change the copyright act to permit any use of a song, as long as you dont have to break a digital lock. interesting, all this downloading crap is a pain.
I dont see how priest is making money to replace downloading with more stuff that could easily be downloaded. we have all these songs, rip them in the right order
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Sorry. Don't buy that argument at all. While there is no doubt that downloading (both legal and illegal) has changed the old school music economic model, you don't exactly go and buy a golf course because you are poor.
It completely flew under the radar of most in the US but there was a recent "major win" by those groups that not only try to stop but actually persecute those who violate the many acts and laws that are out to protect Digital Media Rights.
The freelance writer and consumer advocate for a "fair use" policy, Quinn Norton, recently released a bombshell in the trade rags such as "Wired" and MaxPC magazines. It slipped by in the form of an EULA (end user license agreement) that the big 5 internet providers formed. Basically, with no laws, most have now signed away their rights without knowing it simply by using their internet provider. They track you with even the suspicion of an illegal download and your company "dings" you. A few "dings" and you are forced to go through an online class before you are granted full internet access again. Your acct flagged a second time? Possible ban from use and lawsuits.
This is now going worldwide. Write your Congressman? Nope. No laws have been passed. Just your own ISP's EULA. Good luck to the tech neophytes and, oh yes, the idiot here recently boasting about "Limewire" (Gnutella), Frostwire (same access, dope), and even the torrent clients.
Nope. As you can tell, I don't buy that argument at all. It died with the Shitallica round of lawsuits back in 2006.
| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | PERHAPS THEY ARE TRYING TO GET BACK IN A HONEST WAY THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FUUUCCC??????EEEEENNNNNNNNNN RIPED OFF FROM THEM AND (OUR METAL FAITH) WITH ILLEGAL DOWNLOADING J.D DIAMOND THE COMMANDER.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, September 30, 2011 5:03:03 PM)
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People who bought the single cuts are probably going to buy "The Chosen Few" which turns my stomach just typing this...."The Chosen Few"....oohhhh "other metal artists chose these same old tracks we've heard a trillion times" so we are supposed to get excited because of the new packaging with liner notes from these artists ect......its a huge rip off and I think it hurts the band putting out all these crappy "best of" bullshit. I agree with you Head Banger.
And I don't want K.K. back in the band....ever,if he decided to join again he would probably bring in more poison watering the next LP down as much as he can with experimental BULLSHIT. Stay retired,we don't want you back! I need one more studio album from Judas Priest and I don't want it fucked up by Mr. K.K. Nostradamus.
I wouldn't mind seeing the band quit playing live shows altogether and just make studio LPs from here on out.
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no and no
I have everything from single cuts already, why drop a bunch of cash on something for the shelf only? makes more sense to buy concert tix, so I did.
I dont care if kk comes back, I dont want 3 guitars. kk back and wanting to play great but he doesnt want it so he should stay retired and if you got a hundred thousand people to click the widgit you think kk cares about that? not a chance
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DID YOU BUY SINGLE CUTS AND DID YOU CLICK ON THE KK WIDGET.
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ok, no telling. how about begging...
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DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO.LOL
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could they reform you to confine your posts to one thread. create one....
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ALIENS
THINK YOUR EVER GONNA REFORM ME
YOUVE GOT ANOTHER THING FUC?EN COMIN |
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