You are absolutely right HB - not everyone will be happy and people will be pissed about this thing or that. All of those things you mentioned make it a unique event. I saw them 3 times in 4 days and each show was different. The crowds reaction to the band always changes how the band plays and interacts as well. It's Rock n Roll. If you want perfection, listen to the albums at HOME! I've said before that I have never seen a perfect show by any band and I don't expect one to have a great time and think the band was amazing. I just don't understand why people keep bitching about Rob, one of the greatest singers of all time, just because he struggles with one song or another during some shows. SO WHAT? Should he pack it up as those people believe? I don't think so. Why don't people bitch about these so called vocalists that can't even carry a tune and don't even sing? When Rob is on, he is jaw dropping incredible, and that is a moment in time that you will never forget. I have had many moments like that on this tour and I feel sorry for people that can't appreciate it. I'd rather hear Rob on an offnight anyday than any one of those Cookie Monster "singers".
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, January 17, 2012 8:05:29 AM)| |  | Head banger wrote: | | they have never been perfect, not rob, not any of them. hell listen to priest live, one of the opening notes to Turbo gets messed up. so what?
name me a band that just once had a perfect concert? just one?
if most fans enjoy the show thats good. not everyone will be happy. someone will be pissed they didnt play this song, played that song, this didnt sound right, the beer was warm, the lineup in the bathroom was too long, no girls flashed the stage... too many girls flashed the stage. whatever, its a rock concert not open heart surgery, a few mistakes, detours whatever.
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | I wish that we could get the soundboard recording of that show in Hammond!! THAT show should have been recorded! The next night in Detroit, he was incredible as well but missed a couple of things here and there. Cleveland was the same as the Detroit show. No singer is able to hit every single note at every single show, and I don't expect or demand that they do. Just because he is The Metal God, doesn't mean that he is always perfect and people need to stop expecting him to be. Rob gave it everything he had in every single show that I attended, they all did. But at the beginning of the tour, Rob was struggling. But we have always known that it takes his voice time to get used to touring again and he is always better at the end of a tour than at the beginning. I just wish that they had recorded one of the US shows, because from all the people I have talked to, they all said Rob was incredible and the best they have heard him since the Painkiller tour. They will probably record this in Japan and unfortunately with a couple of months off, I don't know if his voice will be as good as it was when they toured North America.
I have to keep going back to John Baxter's rant - I believe there is a lot of truth in what he said, especially the "let's sit on the sidelines with KK and watch how the Glenn and Jayne show plays out". My opinion of why KK left has changed. I saw an interview with him and he is heartbroken over leaving. This is not something he wanted to do but he couldn't stay with the way things were. It's really sad, but here we go again - MONEY and people's greed destroy another band.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I just don't see many members here viewing everything Priest does through a rose tinted glass Jimmy. And thats just it Jimmy....Judas Priest doesn't "care" if only 3,000 people showed up,they "knew" that there wasn't going to be 25,000 plus in any city.
And "they guy who started the band" is the damn reason "Nostradamus" was "created"....if it were not for K.K. freaking Downing Nostradamus wouldn't of NEVER been written and instead we would of got a normal british heavy metal album,make no mistake about it....K.K. didn't leave because this band is declining ect.....have you ever thought that it was him who fucked the band up in the first place? Not many people do consider.....
I agree about the management milking shit and perhaps the band is at fault for this too I agree. This band isn't stupid,they want to tour and get cash I know that,if they didn't they would be a bunch of fuckin idiots right? But come on,do you think that the band members think they are going to strike it rich off a tour? NO.
They are playing to scrounge a few extra bucks yes but they are also enjoying themselves and are not only doing it for the cash,I'm sure if somebody did something they love doing for 40 years it would be hard to give up. And Priest never said they could pack in crowds by themselves,they know they can't,its not like they are acting like they actually "can" right?
I honestly belive that Guido,Spapad and Hot Rockin MetalGodess would not be giving this much credit to Rob's voice had he given a half assed performance on that individual show. His voice varies obviously....my girlfriend Victoria saw the reunion tour 2004 and said he struggled a little,but when she saw the Retribution tour he was spot on and shocked her,yet the DVD Rising In The East from that same tour wasn't as good.
Over all he can't be consistant live because of age ect....but who cares,anyone showing up for a metal concert and expects the 60 year old lead vocalist to be perfect are kidding themselves.
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:42:21 AM)
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I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
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You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
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Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
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