I think it's a pretty simple concept, BUY the music that you listen to so that you SUPPORT the band and all that went into creating the material that you continue to enjoy. If people continue to download the music for free, these bands will not be able to afford to continue. I have no problem with people listening to the CD first to decide whether it is worth buying. However, if you continue to listen to the CD and enjoy it, then you should PAY FOR IT!! I don't buy the cheap shirts being sold outside of the venue at a concert either, since they are not official merch and the band sees no money.
As for the Priest show - there were a lot of Die Hard BLS fans that also went to the show. Many like Priest and others don't. It is quite possible that those leaving and laughing were BLS fans and NOT Priest fans. Many of the Priest fans did not like BLS either and spent their time drinking, waiting for Priest to start. I still stand behind what I said and all the comments made by PRIEST fans at how awesome that show was!! Not to mention, the PROOF in the video of BTROD I posted from that very show 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, November 18, 2012 5:10:52 AM)| |  | guidogodoy wrote: | | Ok, let's make it simple as this is a nonsensical discussion that you've turned into an argument anyway. I am an idiot, MRH rules the earth and thanks to you we have something to discuss on the JP website. Much obliged.
My only real point was to pay for what you download and actually like. I did and I am far from rich. BTW, your "newbie" bitching about cliques (you "click" a mouse button), if it was a male, was NORMAN! Oh, wait. Sorry. That was probably too much intellect.
No worries. I am done. Peace. 
| | | Budred wrote: | | You go in so many directions that I can't even keep up with you. I'm using profanity because you are an idiot.
I ask if you've ever downloaded anything.(yes, illegally) Yes or no, it's that simple.
Secondly if you are so against illegal downloads then why did you turn me onto a site where I could do it?
You say you are not completely against it? Then why all this?
And I don't think you have the power to download MRH out of existence i was repeating your post. And yes I remember making
those posts about Priest. People around me were laughing at them and some around did leave and no I didn't say it was a complete
bust I said that they weren't as good as times past. To me that's true and if a few diehards here want to disagree then so be it.
They played a venue with a seating capacity of 25,000 but drew (maybe) 5000 so technically maybe it was a bust. And of course
people are chiming in. A while back some newbie bitched about clicks here. That's basically what this site is. A click of about a
dozen people who are diehards and don't care for those they deem not to be so when one of you start on someone it becomes a
feeding frenzy.
It used to bother me but fuck it now. That's why I'm not responding to him. He was having a back and forth with you and saw an out by joining you on me.
Yes I realize this is a Priest site not a MRH site and yes I realize people here don't care about MRH.
Maybe you should realize that this is also a social site and since Priest isn't doing anything people need something to talk about. That or just come here
and read nothing. Sometimes people don't post here for a couple of days. Why? Yeah we can vote for Rob for President of Heavy Metal (how did that
turn out?) but I'm not seeing anything else to discuss about them.
Man it sucks so bad to have a MRH fan on our website. WAH!! WAH!! WAH!!
All he does is talk about them. WAH!! WAH!! WAH!!
Why won't he talk about Priest. WAH!! WAH!! WAH!!
I know, I'll use my intellect on him.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Sure! Glad to answer and am also glad to see that others are chiming in as well.
1. Did I ever say that I was against Demonoid (which was taken down quite some time ago, BTW...only now coming back in a different form)? Not a bit (pun intended). As you say, I told YOU about it. Do YOU know what a DOS (denial of service) attack is? It is an attack on servers so overwhelming that they essentially knock them out. Many, myself included, believe that the US goverment took out Demonoid with this unsavory method as they couldn't cross boarders legally. It WAS in the Ukraine but is now believed to have been moved to the far East. So, have I ever downloaded anything? HA! You have to even download video games via Steam nowadays! I downloaded the Oregon Trail as a kid (who remembers THAT one? BANG! LOL) So, to help clarify what I THINK you are trying to ask: "have you ever downloaded anything illegally?" Answer: of course. My own example of Van Halen answered that one. HB mentioned bootlegs. They are not an explict rule governing them. Only good faith. If they are official releases, it is banned by most upright download sites. Audience taped (video or audio) WILL be removed from such sites if the artist or their reps ask them to be taken down. I have several terabytes. You now resort to obscenity when I am simply discussing. So, I "turned you onto it" because I am NOT so FUCKING against it! (you should breathe more. Perhaps yoga would calm you).
Truth be told, I work with computers so can get most anything I want anyway. Songs are the exception. Do be careful. While I would have posted a site where you need not be a member yet download all HRH discography in lossless form, I'd suggest masking your IP. They ARE cracking down on illegal downloaders. A simple google search would verify it.
Question 2) Uh, where is the second question? Was "have I ever downloaded anything" (any fool knows that visiting a webpage downloads the page to your cache) and what of Demonoid the two questions? If so, look up what happened to Demonoid. Even better, Pirate Bay.
Now your comments (really aren't questions so I have to take them as such) about my "issue with you?" If you think has a thing to do with MRH, you are delusional. Honestly, I could care less about them. Anyone else on the board like them, more power to both of you. True. I can't name a single solitary song they "sing" (I actually like people who sing, not growl) yet I can name just about all Priest's catalog and most of their lyrics. Save Ripper-era, of course. lol Last time I looked, though, this was a JP board, no? No big stretch of the imagination there.
Finally, while I thank you very much for thinking that I have the power to put MRH out of existence but, alas, I can only change the tides. Oh, and stop time. As I said before, you are a sensitive type and I should show more feeling. After all, it comes from the same fellow who thought that the last Priest show was an utter bust, no? "People laughing at them" was pretty close to your quote, wasn't it? Remember, it wasn't me that answered, it was other members of the board who were at that same Priest concert you dissed. Recall that do you? I'm sure anyone can look up the post if you need help remembering.
Thanks for calling me a diehard Priest fan. At least I am in good company. I have yet to see anyone engage you in a single convo over MRH (well, besides ME!!).
| | | Budred wrote: | | Two questions.
Have you ever downloaded anything?
Why the fuck did you turn me onto Demonoid if you're so against it.
You've pretty much stated what you're issue is with me.
I like MRH.
MRH gives me enjoyment through entertainment and something to talk about with all the stuff they have going on.
Priest does nothing for me right now and gives me nothing to discuss and you are a diehard and resent this.
You resent it so much in fact that you want to put MRH out of existence.
Then you try to belittle me by stating how they don't draw and people walk out on them.OK, now I'm hurt .
You don't realize that I don't care how anyone feels about them. I only care how I feel about them. When they
do go away I'll move on to someone else.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Well, first, I said that it takes an awful lot to get me actually "pissed." Typing on the internet isn't even in the running. As I spend my typical days at work on a mainframe dealing with REAL internet trolls, believe me, I have very thick skin. You, on the other hand, have always tended to take everything way too personally. The creation of this very thread is a good example. A bit of a persecution complex mixed with over-sensitivity if you ask me. Hell, you can talk about MRH 'till the cows come home. Do you think that Hellrider posting his dumbass "goatfucker" or cardboard YouTube messages is ever going to make people like the band or open their eyes that they should have "all, not a partial full-on in your face three axe attack" with JP's next album? Of course not.
I am actually referring to a larger problem in the other thread. That of illegal downloads and not paying for things you like. Why is MRH not as popular as they should be? Perhaps, just perhaps, could it be due to lack of exposure to their music worldwide? Lack of revenue that could have been used to market themselves? How many thousand times do you think that their entire discography has been downloaded? How many that liked what they heard actually paid for them?
To reference bands that used to be local from MY hometown, why are Alice Cooper, Ted Nugent, and Bob Seger (who was SO local that he played a free concert on my HS front lawn before he hit it big) household names while MRH is not only local but had less than a "state-fair" gathering of people at an Ozzfest?! As I said, many who also walked out. Better bands? Bad crowds? Hey, how about no big marketing team behind them exposing possible fans to their music?! Different era and more cut-throat than ever in terms of competition. $ is down because of record sales and illegal downloads. THAT is a fact.
Nice grab on the t-shirt, btw. Again, could it possibly be that they can't raise prices because of lack of demand? At Priest, I bought a $40 and a $60 shirt, stage crew shirt plus tourbook. You don't even want to know how much else I got via private deals and eBay.
For all you Mushroomhead fans. Here: (nah, second thought edited by me...I am not so cruel as to post where you can download every single disc without any sort of membership) I recommend the discography. Know that it is illegal to download any of this but, if you do, I am sure that you will certainly be honest and support the band by paying so that they can continue their craft and, hopefully, be able to offer more concerts.
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Dude, I love Judas Priest and if they were actually doing something worth mentioning I would post about them in a heart beat.
The only thing they have done since Rob's return is two albums and a couple of tours. Other than that it has been a continual blast of compilations,
best of's, and live cd's. No real work just a lot of bloodsucking.
I'm not trying to troll this site or get anyone to like them(MRH). What you don't get is that they are a local act for me and they play most of their shows in this region
of the U.S. That gives me multiple opportunities to see them and I try to use this as a social site and since they are giving me something to talk about I post.
I'm not trying to ram them down anyone's throat and they aren't that successful yet they keep giving for their fans. I respect them for that. I would rate Priest
a hundred times higher than MRH but they aren't doing anything for me now so I don't discuss them. If I'm coming off as a troll or if you think I'm trying to do
with them here what Brian does with Maiden you're incorrect. Believe it or not I still respect you and the help you've given me since I've been here but lately
you just post negatively about me and that results in some of my sarcasm. Peace! (whether you want it or not)
Oh' and their shirts aren't overpriced. I paid 40.00 bucks for a Priest shirt but only 25.00 for theirs.
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Thank GOD you finally used a sentence without MRH in it!! 
(Couldn't tell you when was the last time you actually used Priest)
Now then, instead of seeing Dio Disciples, I am going to be seeding every damn MRH album on all major trackers! Hope one or two people like their music and actually pay for it. That might make the band a buck or two or at least get them in the door to pay for an overpriced t-shirt. 
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I just found out that Dio Disciples are playing in McKees Rocks on Wednesday. That's less than an hour from home.
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