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[SkyRideR] Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:03:22 PM 
you should know bigfoot shaves once a year and wears a red suit, stops his massive smoking habit for sweet tooth wonders...
[_strat_] Monday, December 15, 2008 2:14:54 AM 
No, no, no... Its big handsome guys with long sticks, running around on some ice, huging each other for some warmth... Kinda like the shit you yanks call football, but is not football. Only hockeys on ice.
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[Soylentgreen4u] Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:16:53 PM 
......
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Sunday, December 14, 2008 6:36:25 PM)
[Deep Freeze] Sunday, December 14, 2008 6:36:25 PM 
Hockey?? Isn't that like darts or something except colder??  HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Soylentgreen4u] Sunday, December 14, 2008 6:23:52 PM 
HOCKEY BASHING, EH!!!?   ....NOW YOU'VE GONE TOOOOOO FAR!.........
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[_strat_] Sunday, December 14, 2008 5:08:14 PM 
They become a lot less cool when there is a leak in the roof... But that aside, yes its cool.

As for the list, feel free to add the following:

3. Hockey bashing

4. Red font bashing

5. Mayple syrup bashing


Oh, and I was refering to the singing abilities, not inteligence, of Avril and other similar female singers, that look good, but cant sing. As opposed to DF and MM, who are both good looking and can sing! That was just a bit of an ego-boost, btw.
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[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:42:15 PM 
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:40:22 PM 
shame on you...LOL    Quit watching the fireplace channel SOY your mind is getting clogged...LMAO
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[Soylentgreen4u] Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:34:04 PM 
I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!....AN ATTIC DWELLER! ....ACTUALLY ATTICS CAN BE PRETTY COOL IF DONE RIGHT......SO NOW WE'VE ADDED TO YOUR LIST...1-BASHING CANADIANS AND 2-BASHING GOOD LOOKING WOMEN....YES,AVRIL IS VERY CUTE....AND PERSONALLY I HAPPEN TO THINK MOST GOOD LOOKING WOMEN ONLY GET MORE ATTRACTIVE WHEN THEY OPEN THEIR MOUTH
OHHHHHHHH NO,NO,PEOPLE!...NOT LIKE THAT!...GET YOUR MIND OUT OF THE GUTTER!.

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[_strat_] Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:04:38 PM 
Hmm... It does have a bed, a desk among other things, but somehow I dont think youre refering to that?
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[Deep Freeze] Sunday, December 14, 2008 12:48:18 PM 
Is that furnished?? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[_strat_] Sunday, December 14, 2008 12:46:08 PM 
Just for your information, I live in the attic! 

Avril is cute, but as is with most good looking women, she is only cute until she opens her mouth.
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[Head banger] Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:11:31 AM 
that and you have to think, its easy to believe in some abstract god or ghost.  to reason out the truth is more dificult
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[Head banger] Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:10:54 AM 
yep!!!
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[Head banger] Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:06:27 AM 
HA.  I asked the guy in charge of pres bush's security forces if they ever practiced assasinations, to learn what others might do, and if they would consider a hit on our (at the time) prime minister.  that was when the G8 summit was in Kananaskis.  he declined.
perhaps if I had offered that he could take out avril it might have worked/
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[Deep Freeze] Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:03:06 AM 
It might be furnished........
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[Soylentgreen4u] Sunday, December 14, 2008 9:56:39 AM 
YA' BUT AVRIL IS SOOOOOOO CUTE THOUGH....AS FOR THE REST OF YOUR STATEMENT........
Hmmmmmmmmm.....AWWWW DID SOMEBODY TAKE A PEE IN YOUR CORN FLAKES THIS MORNING?.
...YOU NEED TO MOVE OUT OF YOUR MOTHERS BASEMENT AND GET A MOVE ON!......

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[Deep Freeze] Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:35:18 AM 
Sorry. I fixed it. (Barely 5:30AM here you know)  As for Cyrus, if you truly have not "heard" of her, you are fortunate.
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[_strat_] Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:29:55 AM 
"porion"? Either you made a typo or you invented a new word. 

And since I never heard of the little redneck bitch, but have heard plenty from the Canadian talentless singers, I think youre wrong.
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[Deep Freeze] Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:27:40 AM 
Loverboy?!?!? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nooooooooooooo!!!!
Strat, yes she is but I believe she has infected a far greater portion of the world population! She must be stopped.



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[_strat_] Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:23:32 AM 
Thank you for making me look her up. Shes an US Redneck, tho.
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[ron h] Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:22:33 AM 
They desrve it for Loverboy LOL!!!
[Deep Freeze] Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:20:48 AM 
AND Miley Cyrus?? HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!!!!
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[_strat_] Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:14:03 AM 
Well... IDK then! Draft the rednecks (except Guido), pull out your shotguns, hell, throw hamburgers at them! Make them stop with Avril Lavigne and Celine Dion!
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[Deep Freeze] Sunday, December 14, 2008 6:27:22 AM 
Sorry man, I ran out of "bombs" back in 'Nam, 1972. It was rough..very painful.
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[_strat_] Sunday, December 14, 2008 5:10:35 AM 
You also invented Avril Lavigne.

Freeze, when you guys have had enough of Iraq, there is a place to the north of you that desperatly needs bombing.
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[Deep Freeze] Saturday, December 13, 2008 8:16:55 PM 
AS FOR MANNERS...WE CANADIANS INVENTED GOOD MANNERS

Riiiiiiight............. and lumberjacks? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[Soylentgreen4u] Saturday, December 13, 2008 6:06:55 PM 
Hmmmmmmmmm.....YOUR STATEMENT SOMEWHAT FRIGHTENS ME..."TOITY"..."AFFAIR".......
I'M NEVER STOPPING AT YOUR PLACE AFTER DARK!.......

AS FOR MANNERS...WE CANADIANS INVENTED GOOD MANNERS!...

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[Soylentgreen4u] Saturday, December 13, 2008 6:03:05 PM 
R YA' DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEF?......
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[Deep Freeze] Saturday, December 13, 2008 5:41:49 PM 
My good man, what I do whilst on the "toity" is strictly my own affair! I shall thank you to remember your manners!!! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[_strat_] Saturday, December 13, 2008 4:42:55 PM 
So thats Canadian? Didnt get a word of it.
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[Soylentgreen4u] Saturday, December 13, 2008 4:04:30 PM 
BALDERDASH I SAY!...DF JUST SITS ON THE TOITY READING GOBBLEDEGOOK ON HIS ROLLS OF NO NAME TOILET PAPER!....
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[_strat_] Saturday, December 13, 2008 3:57:35 PM 
Two words: Man boobs.
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[_strat_] Saturday, December 13, 2008 3:13:47 PM 
Well, there you go. There is a logical explanation for everything.

The thing that I find the most interesting here is not science, tho. Its basicaly what I have already mentioned. Its our imagination. I think its really a wonder how our imagination can trick us into sensing something that is not there, or misinterpreting that which is. But... thats how gods were born.

Tho there is something to be said about scientific explanations... They take away the magic and romance.
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[Head banger] Saturday, December 13, 2008 1:11:54 PM 
nice, yeah, but no boobies still.
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[Head banger] Saturday, December 13, 2008 1:11:08 PM 
its easier to believe in the supernatural than to think!
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[Deep Freeze] Saturday, December 13, 2008 1:00:52 PM 

That's right, strat! There are explanations of a more "common" nature. Research shows that almost all "classic" ghost signs can be explained as the result of low-frequency sound waves that are trapped inside buildings.  These waves can be triggered by nothing more than a slight wind passing over walls and, of course, cannot be heard by human ears. Tests show that they have an effect on the human body in that they cause uncomfortable "feelings" and vision problems.

A guy at a university in London found out first hand about this when he was alone one night in a lab. He had been told the building was "hannted" but claimed he did not believe it. He reported that night that he was increasingly "uncomfortable" , cold and feeling depressed and that he felt he was being "watched". He claimed he saw a shadowy figure in his peripheral vision. He said it moved and disappeared and, of course, he was terrified and left.  Turns out, this guy was a fencing enthusiast and, when he returned the next day, he found he had left a sword blade clamped in a vice and had forgotten it. It was vibrating frantically, causing a low-frequency wave that filled the lab. Tests showed the wave increased in intensity near his desk. Apaprently, a newly installed fan was causing the sword to vibrate.

It turns out that these low-frequency sounds affect the temporal lobe of the human brain, causing one to get the feelings of depression or that someone is watching them or many other feelings people report and assign to "ghosts". You see, there are explanations for things, IF one is willing to actually look for the scientific facts. All too often, we choose to believe the impossible. 


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[_strat_] Saturday, December 13, 2008 12:44:20 PM 
Well, I didnt get much of that. As I said many times before, physics is far from my area of expertise.

What I do think we should look for first are normal, everyday causes as to why people get such experiences. I mean, in any house youre bound to hear noises. Maybe its the plumbing, maybe its the creaking of the wood, maybe there are rats or mice in the attic. It could be many things that sound like footsteps or other human activity. Of course, it can also be just that, human activity that comes from another human who is well and alive, that is just mistaken for paranormal. Again, the power of suggestion plays a huge role in it. Somebody might mistake wind for whispering, shadows for apparitions, etc. The doors could be out of balance, and might open on their own, simply because of gravity.

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[_strat_] Saturday, December 13, 2008 12:36:10 PM 
They had each other.
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[Deep Freeze] Saturday, December 13, 2008 12:03:35 PM 
Sorry strat, I don't understand him either! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT, since you AND the lovely MG have opened the door to further conversation on the subject.... HAHAHAHAAA!!!!  Actually MG, we were discussing the unlikeliness of ghosts and spirits. I have been reading on the physics involved and managed to (in MY mind) debunk much of this ghost nonsense. And so, let us continue!

It is said that ghosts are "immaterial" in nature. That is to say they can pass through solid objects and whatnot, yet we are told that people hear "footsteps" and doors opening and so on.  This is inconsistent with the laws of motion and force. For a "ghost" to walk, it would require an interaction with the floor. One of the Laws of Motion is intertia (a body at rest remains at rest unless acted upon by external force).  One cannot walk unless force is applied to the floor, yet we are told ghosts are immaterial. How could the floor know to exert force without Newton's third law (equal but opposite reaction)? The force applied against the floor causes opposite force (motion) to walk. So which is it? Are ghosts immaterial or not?   Maybe they have supernatural powers that defy  the laws of physics? Maybe they can "turn it on and off"?  More interesting is that this power is used to mimick human ambulation (walking) which is actually a very slow and awkward way of getting about in the grand scheme of things. It occurs to me that a ghost of such incredible talents would use a much more efficient mode to get about.

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[Head banger] Saturday, December 13, 2008 11:54:01 AM 
sex!
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[_strat_] Saturday, December 13, 2008 11:51:25 AM 
I remembered a story I head once, that the British used to supply their soldiers with heroin in WW1. So, they had violence, they had drugs. Why would they bother going to Amsterdam?
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[_strat_] Saturday, December 13, 2008 11:50:05 AM 
Cool, but I prefer the part where they talk about nailing her to the coffin "so she may never rise and cause evil again..."
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[_strat_] Saturday, December 13, 2008 11:48:54 AM 
Hey, DF, Im afraid I dont understand HBs Canadian babbling. Could you translate please?
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[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Saturday, December 13, 2008 11:22:24 AM 

OMG I missed that in-depth conversation.. geesh 

Has anyone here aver had a real expriance??  ghostly in that nature..

I used to live in a town house in Champlin MN many years ago with my brother.. and we always heard a baby crying..

The neighbors had no kids... so we finally asked someone, like a year later.. and they said a lady  used to live in the townhouse attached to ours, and she had given birth in the middle of the nite and the baby died in the townhouse???

ANywase,,, thats one of my freaky exper. 

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[Soylentgreen4u] Saturday, December 13, 2008 11:17:10 AM 
WE ARE GATHERED HERE TONIGHT TO LAY TO REST ABIGAIL La FEY,WHOM WE NOW KNOW WAS FIRST BORN DEAD ON THE 7th DAY OF JULY 1777...
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[_strat_] Saturday, December 13, 2008 11:06:52 AM 

Tell that to Abigail LaFay.


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[Deep Freeze] Saturday, December 13, 2008 8:54:43 AM 
HA!!!!!!!!!!! Good point and another reason "ghosts" or at least the classic idea of ghosts does not make sense. One would think that a tragic event such as dying would lead one to find a "happier" place to spend eternity!
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[Head banger] Saturday, December 13, 2008 8:52:37 AM 

one would asume that dying in a WWI battle would suck.  would a ghost want to stay in such an area, or go somewhere else?  personaly, I would move to amsterdam, or backstage of the speerming rhino.


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[Head banger] Saturday, December 13, 2008 8:51:07 AM 
ask DF, I speak canadian not english! HA!
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