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I second MG... All that just flew past me, and the only thing I understand is that you are not going to stop saying soccer.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:50:48 PM)| |  | guidogodoy wrote: | | Sorry, can't do that either thanks to the linguistic phenomenon known as a "cultism."
In any language, when a popular word conflicts with another causing confusion among the (usually illiterate / ill-educated) population, it either does not evolve as it should or it is replaced by another term. I could give you a number of examples in Spanish, Portuguese and French but think of your own language and irregular verbs. Verbs with irregular past participles. Mis-pronounced words that are wrong but are still common.
Cultisms are quite common in religious terms. They "stagnate" due to the "cultos" use. Dipthongs don't compact, vowels open. Terms change meaning. One of the only reasons that we have theories as to how Latin sounded (only theories) is thanks to some who tried to correct popular pronunciation and usage. TENERUM not TENREUM.
Look it up. I ain't kidding! LOL!!!! Football here now refers to the "gridiron" game. Ingrained into the popular mentality. As such, it will never go back. Even if we DO also play rugby!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, ok, ok, OK... I suppose they didnt invent the language, since languages develop (as you had to point out... Smartypants... ), but they did pass it on to their North American colonies, through... Well, colonists. So basicaly, you are a Brit, and you better start calling the sport football!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | HAAA! Hold your horses there, chief. The English did NOT "invent" the West Germanic language commonly called "English." LOL!!
Sorry, gots' ta call ya on a basic "evolution of language" / etymology truism. (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:21:40 PM)
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| [Head banger] Sunday, June 07, 2009 8:56:24 PM | |
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What the fuck did you just say??? speak english damn it!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:50:48 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Sorry, can't do that either thanks to the linguistic phenomenon known as a "cultism."
In any language, when a popular word conflicts with another causing confusion among the (usually illiterate / ill-educated) population, it either does not evolve as it should or it is replaced by another term. I could give you a number of examples in Spanish, Portuguese and French but think of your own language and irregular verbs. Verbs with irregular past participles. Mis-pronounced words that are wrong but are still common.
Cultisms are quite common in religious terms. They "stagnate" due to the "cultos" use. Dipthongs don't compact, vowels open. Terms change meaning. One of the only reasons that we have theories as to how Latin sounded (only theories) is thanks to some who tried to correct popular pronunciation and usage. TENERUM not TENREUM.
Look it up. I ain't kidding! LOL!!!! Football here now refers to the "gridiron" game. Ingrained into the popular mentality. As such, it will never go back. Even if we DO also play rugby!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, ok, ok, OK... I suppose they didnt invent the language, since languages develop (as you had to point out... Smartypants...), but they did pass it on to their North American colonies, through... Well, colonists. So basicaly, you are a Brit, and you better start calling the sport football!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | HAAA! Hold your horses there, chief. The English did NOT "invent" the West Germanic language commonly called "English." LOL!!
Sorry, gots' ta call ya on a basic "evolution of language" / etymology truism. (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:21:40 PM)
Edited at: Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:31:33 PM |
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| [ron h] Sunday, June 07, 2009 6:24:32 PM | |
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Sunday, June 07, 2009 6:07:12 PM | |
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All I have to say is.......
 LMAO
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:50:48 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Sorry, can't do that either thanks to the linguistic phenomenon known as a "cultism."
In any language, when a popular word conflicts with another causing confusion among the (usually illiterate / ill-educated) population, it either does not evolve as it should or it is replaced by another term. I could give you a number of examples in Spanish, Portuguese and French but think of your own language and irregular verbs. Verbs with irregular past participles. Mis-pronounced words that are wrong but are still common.
Cultisms are quite common in religious terms. They "stagnate" due to the "cultos" use. Dipthongs don't compact, vowels open. Terms change meaning. One of the only reasons that we have theories as to how Latin sounded (only theories) is thanks to some who tried to correct popular pronunciation and usage. TENERUM not TENREUM.
Look it up. I ain't kidding! LOL!!!! Football here now refers to the "gridiron" game. Ingrained into the popular mentality. As such, it will never go back. Even if we DO also play rugby!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, ok, ok, OK... I suppose they didnt invent the language, since languages develop (as you had to point out... Smartypants...), but they did pass it on to their North American colonies, through... Well, colonists. So basicaly, you are a Brit, and you better start calling the sport football!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | HAAA! Hold your horses there, chief. The English did NOT "invent" the West Germanic language commonly called "English." LOL!!
Sorry, gots' ta call ya on a basic "evolution of language" / etymology truism. (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:21:40 PM)
Edited at: Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:31:33 PM |
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| [guidogodoy] Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:50:48 PM | |
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Sorry, can't do that either thanks to the linguistic phenomenon known as a "cultism."
In any language, when a popular word conflicts with another causing confusion among the (usually illiterate / ill-educated) population, it either does not evolve as it should or it is replaced by another term. I could give you a number of examples in Spanish, Portuguese and French but think of your own language and irregular verbs. Verbs with irregular past participles. Mis-pronounced words that are wrong but are still common.
Cultisms are quite common in religious terms. They "stagnate" due to the "cultos" use. Dipthongs don't compact, vowels open. Terms change meaning. One of the only reasons that we have theories as to how Latin sounded (only theories) is thanks to some who tried to correct popular pronunciation and usage. TENERUM not TENREUM.
Look it up. I ain't kidding! LOL!!!! Football here now refers to the "gridiron" game. Ingrained into the popular mentality. As such, it will never go back. Even if we DO also play rugby!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:33:54 PM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, ok, ok, OK... I suppose they didnt invent the language, since languages develop (as you had to point out... Smartypants...), but they did pass it on to their North American colonies, through... Well, colonists. So basicaly, you are a Brit, and you better start calling the sport football!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | HAAA! Hold your horses there, chief. The English did NOT "invent" the West Germanic language commonly called "English." LOL!!
Sorry, gots' ta call ya on a basic "evolution of language" / etymology truism. (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:21:40 PM)
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| [_strat_] Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:33:54 PM | |
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Well, ok, ok, OK... I suppose they didnt invent the language, since languages develop (as you had to point out... Smartypants...), but they did pass it on to their North American colonies, through... Well, colonists. So basicaly, you are a Brit, and you better start calling the sport football!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:30:35 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | HAAA! Hold your horses there, chief. The English did NOT "invent" the West Germanic language commonly called "English." LOL!!
Sorry, gots' ta call ya on a basic "evolution of language" / etymology truism. (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:21:40 PM)
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| [guidogodoy] Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:30:35 PM | |
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HAAA! Hold your horses there, chief. The English did NOT "invent" the West Germanic language commonly called "English." LOL!!
Sorry, gots' ta call ya on a basic "evolution of language" / etymology truism. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:21:40 PM)
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| [_strat_] Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:21:40 PM | |
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Well, English did invent the language as a whole... But in any case... I use "football" because thats how I was taught when I was learning English. And it seems that everyone who learns English as a foreign language is taught the same. Which explains why we (combined with the Brits) get pissed when you call our holy ceremony a nerdy name like soccer.
As for the pitch vs. field and elevator vs. lift... I dont know. Frankly, I thought that in both cases, both words apply in American English, and English English.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:16:24 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | I never said the English didn't. Only that they invented the term. There is an accent in Spanish, too: fútbol. There are also other countries that still refer to the sport as "soccer." I only named two.
How is it that no one gets mad about calling it a "field" vs. "pitch?" Why no major issues between "elevator" and "lift" for that matter?
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Tell it to this guy:
And just for the record... I am ignorant of the history of the term, but I do know that Brits (as well as Irish) call it football now. And the word echoes in German "Fußball", Serbian "Fudbal" and Spanish "Futbol", which all refer to the same sport, the one that Americans and Canadians call... ugh... "Soccer"...
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| [_strat_] Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:16:47 PM | |
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Lol... Yeah, I know... Just with these people its not good to be sarcastic. Infact, its not good to be within a bootle-throw distance away from them.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ~ MG_Metalgoddess~ from Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:15:06 PM)| | | ~ MG_Metalgoddess~ wrote: | | LMAO I know I was being sarcastic.... LOL
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Another beer is the last thing he needs. Cold water and a tranquiliser.
| | | ~ MG_Metalgoddess~ wrote: | | Good Lord, Yeah he looks like he needs another beer,,,
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Tell it to this guy:
And just for the record... I am ignorant of the history of the term, but I do know that Brits (as well as Irish) call it football now. And the word echoes in German "Fußball", Serbian "Fudbal" and Spanish "Futbol", which all refer to the same sport, the one that Americans and Canadians call... ugh... "Soccer"...
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| [guidogodoy] Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:16:24 PM | |
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I never said the English didn't. Only that they invented the term. There is an accent in Spanish, too: fútbol. There are also other countries that still refer to the sport as "soccer." I only named two.
How is it that no one gets mad about calling it a "field" vs. "pitch?" Why no major issues between "elevator" and "lift" for that matter?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:08:25 PM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Tell it to this guy:
And just for the record... I am ignorant of the history of the term, but I do know that Brits (as well as Irish) call it football now. And the word echoes in German "Fußball", Serbian "Fudbal" and Spanish "Futbol", which all refer to the same sport, the one that Americans and Canadians call... ugh... "Soccer"...
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:15:06 PM | |
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LMAO I know I was being sarcastic.... LOL
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:11:35 PM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Another beer is the last thing he needs. Cold water and a tranquiliser.
| | | ~ MG_Metalgoddess~ wrote: | | Good Lord, Yeah he looks like he needs another beer,,,
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Tell it to this guy:
And just for the record... I am ignorant of the history of the term, but I do know that Brits (as well as Irish) call it football now. And the word echoes in German "Fußball", Serbian "Fudbal" and Spanish "Futbol", which all refer to the same sport, the one that Americans and Canadians call... ugh... "Soccer"...
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| [_strat_] Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:11:35 PM | |
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Another beer is the last thing he needs. Cold water and a tranquiliser.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ~ MG_Metalgoddess~ from Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:09:37 PM)| | | ~ MG_Metalgoddess~ wrote: | | Good Lord, Yeah he looks like he needs another beer,,,
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Tell it to this guy:
And just for the record... I am ignorant of the history of the term, but I do know that Brits (as well as Irish) call it football now. And the word echoes in German "Fußball", Serbian "Fudbal" and Spanish "Futbol", which all refer to the same sport, the one that Americans and Canadians call... ugh... "Soccer"...
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:09:37 PM | |
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Good Lord, Yeah he looks like he needs another beer,,,
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:08:25 PM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Tell it to this guy:
And just for the record... I am ignorant of the history of the term, but I do know that Brits (as well as Irish) call it football now. And the word echoes in German "Fußball", Serbian "Fudbal" and Spanish "Futbol", which all refer to the same sport, the one that Americans and Canadians call... ugh... "Soccer"...
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| [_strat_] Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:08:25 PM | |
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Tell it to this guy:
And just for the record... I am ignorant of the history of the term, but I do know that Brits (as well as Irish) call it football now. And the word echoes in German "Fußball", Serbian "Fudbal" and Spanish "Futbol", which all refer to the same sport, the one that Americans and Canadians call... ugh... "Soccer"...
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| [_strat_] Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:01:26 PM | |
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...still annoying. I agre with Matchova.
But, the bullets will be flying soon, Im sure, so I will just take cover for now.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, June 07, 2009 4:57:14 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Americans are not the only ones. It referred to a "code" of rules and the term "soccer" actually started in England. Referred to the "association" of people who followed this established set of rules often distinguished from Rugby Football rules.
Canada is one of the next biggest countries to refer to this established set of rules as soccer.
Obviously, I've had this question before...
| | | Matchova wrote: | | That americans call football soccer - why is that?!? Football is supposed to be balls played by the foot,no?!?! |
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| [guidogodoy] Sunday, June 07, 2009 4:57:14 PM | |
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Americans are not the only ones. It referred to a "code" of rules and the term "soccer" actually started in England. Referred to the "association" of people who followed this established set of rules often distinguished from Rugby Football rules.
Canada is one of the next biggest countries to refer to this established set of rules as soccer.
Obviously, I've had this question before...
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Matchova from Sunday, June 07, 2009 4:32:34 PM)| | | Matchova wrote: | | | That americans call football soccer - why is that?!? Football is supposed to be balls played by the foot,no?!?! |
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| [Matchova] Sunday, June 07, 2009 4:32:34 PM | |
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| That americans call football soccer - why is that?!? Football is supposed to be balls played by the foot,no?!?! |
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| [spapad] Sunday, June 07, 2009 11:34:29 AM | |
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Ha!! MG, no that price for insurance is just for me, not Flora, her father picks up her health insurance. We didn't get a raise this year due to "hard times" but I guarantee you my insurance bill will go up again come August! How do these people expect us to live!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ~ MG_Metalgoddess~ from Saturday, June 06, 2009 4:34:46 PM)| | | ~ MG_Metalgoddess~ wrote: | | Is that for you and Flora??? You plus 1... on your insurance... American medical system is outrageous.
I payed 525.00 a month, for me plus 1, .. And I used to work for 9 doctors..
People put down Canada for our medical system.. but I have not had a problem yet,, In fact they are more curious here to investigate whats causing your problem, rather just write you a perscription for an expensive drug that the doctor is 9 times out of 10 getting a kick back payment from the pharm, companies for writing.. I have seen the check in the mail myself... And The insurance companies reward Doctors for NOT running Tests.. because it costs them to much money,,,, Its a vicious cycle .. And its our health that is at risk, and they dont seem to care,, anything to make a buck.
| | | spapad wrote: | | If your poor in America, JT you may have all the health care services you wish, but if your middle class and have bad insurance or no insurance at your job your left to pay hefty amounts for insurance out of pocket. My company has good insurance and they pay a hefty amount of my insurance but even with that, I'm paying 220.00 per month out of my money.
| | | JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote: | | Dude that's fucking horrible, i was gonna come in here and say that Terminator Salvation is shit but man i can't even begin to think what he must be going through, the baby will be fine though i think, my mate was in a similar situation and his baby was only 1lb and he is pulling through fine. Still i know what you mean about the NHS but thank fuck we don't live in America where you'd have to pay for any health care.
| | | Necroticist wrote: | | | Yes - hospital that prescribed the wrong drugs for my mate's pregnant wife - on thursday night he ended up delivering a premature 4lb baby himself cos the ambulance couldn't get there - 10 mins ago we had 2 ambulances tear round here...dragged one screaming sick looking baby to hospital.....i am gutted...imagine the mess he's in...f*cking national health? try national disaster.. |
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| [spapad] Sunday, June 07, 2009 11:32:21 AM | |
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Find someone you trust in a country that is recieving the shipping and have them mailed to them, then they can mail them on to you. May take longer than a slow boat to China, but you would eventually get them!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, June 06, 2009 9:50:35 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | Grrr I was just looking on converse.com to see if they ship overseas (I didn't think they did originally) so that I know for when the AC/DC chucks are released. They do ship overseas and have a list of countries they ship to. Guess who's country is NOT on that list! 
They even ship to Honduras, Slovakia, Norway, all sorts, but not here!! WAAAAAAH  They even ship to Australia, which is freakin right next door. Not fair. |
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