| [ron h] Friday, March 20, 2009 4:48:03 AM | |
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Have to agree that's pretty cool as well...along the same lines I have posted before, but here's mine...on any other site I'm a member of, I use names like 'priestfan' while playing on-line poker or chess, or if someone else has it I'll use 'mmpriestfanmm'...so I figured when I joined here, why not be myself??
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Friday, March 20, 2009 12:56:59 AM)| |  | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Now how the heck did this thread get this far down? Oh, well... up ya go, you little thread...
I know I already wrote about my online name, but it's been a long time.
So...why my online name? Simple. There was a book I used to read quite often when I was in high school. It was called "Death Comes for the Archbishop" by Willa Cather. One of the main characters in that book was named Joseph Vaillant, a friend of the main character. I always thought Vaillant's last name was pretty cool, and just thought about using it as an online name. The 3.0 part came from the fact that AOL used to give itself so many upgrades during the late 1990's (AOL 4.0, 5.0, 6.0, etc.). I thought those commercials were kinda neat...so a mixture of both and...voila!! My online name!!  |
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| [Wildheart] Friday, March 20, 2009 4:42:28 AM | |
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| [Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Friday, March 20, 2009 4:06:47 AM | |
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Very cool, Vail!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Friday, March 20, 2009 12:56:59 AM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Now how the heck did this thread get this far down? Oh, well... up ya go, you little thread...
I know I already wrote about my online name, but it's been a long time.
So...why my online name? Simple. There was a book I used to read quite often when I was in high school. It was called "Death Comes for the Archbishop" by Willa Cather. One of the main characters in that book was named Joseph Vaillant, a friend of the main character. I always thought Vaillant's last name was pretty cool, and just thought about using it as an online name. The 3.0 part came from the fact that AOL used to give itself so many upgrades during the late 1990's (AOL 4.0, 5.0, 6.0, etc.). I thought those commercials were kinda neat...so a mixture of both and...voila!! My online name!! |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Friday, March 20, 2009 12:56:59 AM | |
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Now how the heck did this thread get this far down? Oh, well... up ya go, you little thread...
I know I already wrote about my online name, but it's been a long time.
So...why my online name? Simple. There was a book I used to read quite often when I was in high school. It was called "Death Comes for the Archbishop" by Willa Cather. One of the main characters in that book was named Joseph Vaillant, a friend of the main character. I always thought Vaillant's last name was pretty cool, and just thought about using it as an online name. The 3.0 part came from the fact that AOL used to give itself so many upgrades during the late 1990's (AOL 4.0, 5.0, 6.0, etc.). I thought those commercials were kinda neat...so a mixture of both and...voila!! My online name!! |
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| [_strat_] Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:32:17 AM | |
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It can... just legalise euthanasia. Non-volountary too.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:47:24 PM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | yes, but while its fine and all, it doesnt work on stupidity.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Doh... Thats why I created socialised healthcare! Thou shalt not tempt Strat, thy lord!
| | | Head banger wrote: | | right. in that case, I have a few people who need to be cured,
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | FFS... Im a god, remember?
| | | Head banger wrote: | | you mean types at him? long flight for you to touch him.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | I understand. But I dont agree. I make my reservation now: if the asshole ever gets into the politics thread, no one is to touch him but me! 
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | That may be so, strat. I will not argue that. I refuse to be drawn into a name-calling, finger-pointing, self-deprecating battle that will only serve to create yet ANOTHER embarrassment for this site. My point was, and remains, that we as a membership are far above this kind of thinking. To continue to respond directly to this "person" is only giving him further reason to perpetuate that embarrassment.
I do not own this site nor do I have any particular power over it or its members. I am speaking as one member that chooses to put our group before my personal desire to confront this ignorance in a public forum that should be dedicated to the enjoyment of its participants. That is what I meant previously and what I have said now.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, if we go back far enough, all humans can trace their descent to the missing link. Which makes arguing about races even more pointless than it already is.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Personally, as a "proud white man" myself, I am disgusted by the whole thing. I refuse to comment directly to this cretin so I will speak to our group.
When we allow ourselves to be taken down a path of foul ignorance, we also allow ourselves to be drawn down to the level of the low life to which we respond. Further, we do a great injustice to our membership. You see, we also enjoy the "company" we keep and enjoy the true "art" of the music which defines us. BUT, WE do not allow color, religion, race or country of origin to shadow what it means to be a "true" fan. Accordingly, WE do not see things so simply and WE choose to take a more "enlightend" and eclectic approach to our lives.
I will always be "proud" of my heritage. Moreover, I am proud to be part of such a widely diverse group. We have broken the bonds of ignorance and embraced all. Truth be told, unless you are an American Indian, you are NOT of this land. You are an immigrant. Whether that be of white, European heritage or black, Hispanic, Asian or anything else. How that could possibly be missed is beyond me, but I digress.
We are a family. We do not, nor should we ever, allow the stupidity of racism or any other hate (yes, I said hate) to come among us or, WORSE, be acknowledged. We cannot control the ignorance of others, but we can stand high above it. We shall not be soiled. |
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| [Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:07:06 AM | |
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You can't cure stupid. Hell, if you could...the corporate ladder would be more crowded than it is now.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:47:24 PM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | yes, but while its fine and all, it doesnt work on stupidity.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Doh... Thats why I created socialised healthcare! Thou shalt not tempt Strat, thy lord!
| | | Head banger wrote: | | right. in that case, I have a few people who need to be cured,
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | FFS... Im a god, remember?
| | | Head banger wrote: | | you mean types at him? long flight for you to touch him.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | I understand. But I dont agree. I make my reservation now: if the asshole ever gets into the politics thread, no one is to touch him but me!
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | That may be so, strat. I will not argue that. I refuse to be drawn into a name-calling, finger-pointing, self-deprecating battle that will only serve to create yet ANOTHER embarrassment for this site. My point was, and remains, that we as a membership are far above this kind of thinking. To continue to respond directly to this "person" is only giving him further reason to perpetuate that embarrassment.
I do not own this site nor do I have any particular power over it or its members. I am speaking as one member that chooses to put our group before my personal desire to confront this ignorance in a public forum that should be dedicated to the enjoyment of its participants. That is what I meant previously and what I have said now.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, if we go back far enough, all humans can trace their descent to the missing link. Which makes arguing about races even more pointless than it already is.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Personally, as a "proud white man" myself, I am disgusted by the whole thing. I refuse to comment directly to this cretin so I will speak to our group.
When we allow ourselves to be taken down a path of foul ignorance, we also allow ourselves to be drawn down to the level of the low life to which we respond. Further, we do a great injustice to our membership. You see, we also enjoy the "company" we keep and enjoy the true "art" of the music which defines us. BUT, WE do not allow color, religion, race or country of origin to shadow what it means to be a "true" fan. Accordingly, WE do not see things so simply and WE choose to take a more "enlightend" and eclectic approach to our lives.
I will always be "proud" of my heritage. Moreover, I am proud to be part of such a widely diverse group. We have broken the bonds of ignorance and embraced all. Truth be told, unless you are an American Indian, you are NOT of this land. You are an immigrant. Whether that be of white, European heritage or black, Hispanic, Asian or anything else. How that could possibly be missed is beyond me, but I digress.
We are a family. We do not, nor should we ever, allow the stupidity of racism or any other hate (yes, I said hate) to come among us or, WORSE, be acknowledged. We cannot control the ignorance of others, but we can stand high above it. We shall not be soiled. |
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| [Head banger] Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:47:24 PM | |
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yes, but while its fine and all, it doesnt work on stupidity.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:47:58 AM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Doh... Thats why I created socialised healthcare! Thou shalt not tempt Strat, thy lord!
| | | Head banger wrote: | | right. in that case, I have a few people who need to be cured,
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | FFS... Im a god, remember?
| | | Head banger wrote: | | you mean types at him? long flight for you to touch him.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | I understand. But I dont agree. I make my reservation now: if the asshole ever gets into the politics thread, no one is to touch him but me!
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | That may be so, strat. I will not argue that. I refuse to be drawn into a name-calling, finger-pointing, self-deprecating battle that will only serve to create yet ANOTHER embarrassment for this site. My point was, and remains, that we as a membership are far above this kind of thinking. To continue to respond directly to this "person" is only giving him further reason to perpetuate that embarrassment.
I do not own this site nor do I have any particular power over it or its members. I am speaking as one member that chooses to put our group before my personal desire to confront this ignorance in a public forum that should be dedicated to the enjoyment of its participants. That is what I meant previously and what I have said now.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, if we go back far enough, all humans can trace their descent to the missing link. Which makes arguing about races even more pointless than it already is.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Personally, as a "proud white man" myself, I am disgusted by the whole thing. I refuse to comment directly to this cretin so I will speak to our group.
When we allow ourselves to be taken down a path of foul ignorance, we also allow ourselves to be drawn down to the level of the low life to which we respond. Further, we do a great injustice to our membership. You see, we also enjoy the "company" we keep and enjoy the true "art" of the music which defines us. BUT, WE do not allow color, religion, race or country of origin to shadow what it means to be a "true" fan. Accordingly, WE do not see things so simply and WE choose to take a more "enlightend" and eclectic approach to our lives.
I will always be "proud" of my heritage. Moreover, I am proud to be part of such a widely diverse group. We have broken the bonds of ignorance and embraced all. Truth be told, unless you are an American Indian, you are NOT of this land. You are an immigrant. Whether that be of white, European heritage or black, Hispanic, Asian or anything else. How that could possibly be missed is beyond me, but I digress.
We are a family. We do not, nor should we ever, allow the stupidity of racism or any other hate (yes, I said hate) to come among us or, WORSE, be acknowledged. We cannot control the ignorance of others, but we can stand high above it. We shall not be soiled. |
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| [_strat_] Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:47:58 AM | |
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Doh... Thats why I created socialised healthcare! Thou shalt not tempt Strat, thy lord!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:56:04 PM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | right. in that case, I have a few people who need to be cured,
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | FFS... Im a god, remember?
| | | Head banger wrote: | | you mean types at him? long flight for you to touch him.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | I understand. But I dont agree. I make my reservation now: if the asshole ever gets into the politics thread, no one is to touch him but me!
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | That may be so, strat. I will not argue that. I refuse to be drawn into a name-calling, finger-pointing, self-deprecating battle that will only serve to create yet ANOTHER embarrassment for this site. My point was, and remains, that we as a membership are far above this kind of thinking. To continue to respond directly to this "person" is only giving him further reason to perpetuate that embarrassment.
I do not own this site nor do I have any particular power over it or its members. I am speaking as one member that chooses to put our group before my personal desire to confront this ignorance in a public forum that should be dedicated to the enjoyment of its participants. That is what I meant previously and what I have said now.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, if we go back far enough, all humans can trace their descent to the missing link. Which makes arguing about races even more pointless than it already is.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Personally, as a "proud white man" myself, I am disgusted by the whole thing. I refuse to comment directly to this cretin so I will speak to our group.
When we allow ourselves to be taken down a path of foul ignorance, we also allow ourselves to be drawn down to the level of the low life to which we respond. Further, we do a great injustice to our membership. You see, we also enjoy the "company" we keep and enjoy the true "art" of the music which defines us. BUT, WE do not allow color, religion, race or country of origin to shadow what it means to be a "true" fan. Accordingly, WE do not see things so simply and WE choose to take a more "enlightend" and eclectic approach to our lives.
I will always be "proud" of my heritage. Moreover, I am proud to be part of such a widely diverse group. We have broken the bonds of ignorance and embraced all. Truth be told, unless you are an American Indian, you are NOT of this land. You are an immigrant. Whether that be of white, European heritage or black, Hispanic, Asian or anything else. How that could possibly be missed is beyond me, but I digress.
We are a family. We do not, nor should we ever, allow the stupidity of racism or any other hate (yes, I said hate) to come among us or, WORSE, be acknowledged. We cannot control the ignorance of others, but we can stand high above it. We shall not be soiled. |
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| [guidogodoy] Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:10:56 PM | |
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Now now, let's be clear. I actually said "turning over in his lazyboy."
"Rolling" is a word that seems to indicate a little more effort than I actually intended. 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:17:04 PM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Rolling over in my LAZY BOY?!?!?!?!!!????? BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By the way, MY favorite white painter is Fred from Fred's Auto Body, Las Vegas.. Open weekends and evenings. Call Fred and ask about his "Two fer Wun" special....... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| [paorcamp] Tuesday, February 17, 2009 6:21:44 PM | |
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ok...got your point...it's clear now...thanks
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:22:27 PM)| | | ronhartsell wrote: | | ...I'm sorry if I seemed to come on a little strong, I can be like that sometimes...but I am not angry or anything, nor do I think you and Guido were defending him...we all have a right to be here and our opinions are what makes us different from each other...and agree or not, I do respect all opinions (or at least the person making them)...this actually is good conversation about a very real issue and what ppl from different cultures have to say about it...I truly do find that aspect of it very interesting...and you are right on the mark as far as becoming "what we are criticizing"...
| | | paorcamp wrote: | | yes...I know what you meant...and I'm not saying you insulted him...I'm talking about us all...that's why I didn't quote your message...and I'm not trying to deffend him (for those who think I'd do it)...I just say that in the way he doesn't attack any of us we shouldn't because otherwise we become what we are criticizing...and I know he deserves what he gets for having such a nickname...but as u said...we should be tolerant until the top is reached
| | | ronhartsell wrote: | | ...No one's getting on Guido in a bad way paorcamp...and I don't think I insulted the racist in any way...but just by giving yourself the name (Racist) invites ridicule...it is a negative reference and desrves what it gets...if someone is gonna put themself out there like that, then they should be ready for the stigma (good or bad) that comes with it...and NO, I don't care why he thinks the way he does...and I'll be tolerant until he becomes...how should I say this...becomes 'vocal' in promoting his views...
| | | paorcamp wrote: | | | mmm...Maybe I'm wrong about this but I see guido is just being curious...he's on his right...he's just trying to learn something new...maybe the points of view and the way the racist guy thinks...we are not being fair with them so just let guido ask and the other guy answer....and that's it...even if the guy is being honest or not we all can learn something new....because if he is being honest we can try to get an idea of the way he sees things before we insult him....but if he isn't, then we can see that there's a person with some problems...maybe he was hurt in the past and now is trying to hide in a racist shadow... |
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| [Head banger] Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:56:04 PM | |
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right. in that case, I have a few people who need to be cured,
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:27:26 PM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | FFS... Im a god, remember?
| | | Head banger wrote: | | you mean types at him? long flight for you to touch him.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | I understand. But I dont agree. I make my reservation now: if the asshole ever gets into the politics thread, no one is to touch him but me!
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | That may be so, strat. I will not argue that. I refuse to be drawn into a name-calling, finger-pointing, self-deprecating battle that will only serve to create yet ANOTHER embarrassment for this site. My point was, and remains, that we as a membership are far above this kind of thinking. To continue to respond directly to this "person" is only giving him further reason to perpetuate that embarrassment.
I do not own this site nor do I have any particular power over it or its members. I am speaking as one member that chooses to put our group before my personal desire to confront this ignorance in a public forum that should be dedicated to the enjoyment of its participants. That is what I meant previously and what I have said now.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, if we go back far enough, all humans can trace their descent to the missing link. Which makes arguing about races even more pointless than it already is.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Personally, as a "proud white man" myself, I am disgusted by the whole thing. I refuse to comment directly to this cretin so I will speak to our group.
When we allow ourselves to be taken down a path of foul ignorance, we also allow ourselves to be drawn down to the level of the low life to which we respond. Further, we do a great injustice to our membership. You see, we also enjoy the "company" we keep and enjoy the true "art" of the music which defines us. BUT, WE do not allow color, religion, race or country of origin to shadow what it means to be a "true" fan. Accordingly, WE do not see things so simply and WE choose to take a more "enlightend" and eclectic approach to our lives.
I will always be "proud" of my heritage. Moreover, I am proud to be part of such a widely diverse group. We have broken the bonds of ignorance and embraced all. Truth be told, unless you are an American Indian, you are NOT of this land. You are an immigrant. Whether that be of white, European heritage or black, Hispanic, Asian or anything else. How that could possibly be missed is beyond me, but I digress.
We are a family. We do not, nor should we ever, allow the stupidity of racism or any other hate (yes, I said hate) to come among us or, WORSE, be acknowledged. We cannot control the ignorance of others, but we can stand high above it. We shall not be soiled. |
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| [spapad] Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:30:28 PM | |
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LOL , you are so funny my friend! Much Love to ya! Ooops, forgot I'm not posting this thread anymore. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:27:26 PM)
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That may be so, strat. I will not argue that. I refuse to be drawn into a name-calling, finger-pointing, self-deprecating battle that will only serve to create yet ANOTHER embarrassment for this site. My point was, and remains, that we as a membership are far above this kind of thinking. To continue to respond directly to this "person" is only giving him further reason to perpetuate that embarrassment.
I do not own this site nor do I have any particular power over it or its members. I am speaking as one member that chooses to put our group before my personal desire to confront this ignorance in a public forum that should be dedicated to the enjoyment of its participants. That is what I meant previously and what I have said now.
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Personally, as a "proud white man" myself, I am disgusted by the whole thing. I refuse to comment directly to this cretin so I will speak to our group.
When we allow ourselves to be taken down a path of foul ignorance, we also allow ourselves to be drawn down to the level of the low life to which we respond. Further, we do a great injustice to our membership. You see, we also enjoy the "company" we keep and enjoy the true "art" of the music which defines us. BUT, WE do not allow color, religion, race or country of origin to shadow what it means to be a "true" fan. Accordingly, WE do not see things so simply and WE choose to take a more "enlightend" and eclectic approach to our lives.
I will always be "proud" of my heritage. Moreover, I am proud to be part of such a widely diverse group. We have broken the bonds of ignorance and embraced all. Truth be told, unless you are an American Indian, you are NOT of this land. You are an immigrant. Whether that be of white, European heritage or black, Hispanic, Asian or anything else. How that could possibly be missed is beyond me, but I digress.
We are a family. We do not, nor should we ever, allow the stupidity of racism or any other hate (yes, I said hate) to come among us or, WORSE, be acknowledged. We cannot control the ignorance of others, but we can stand high above it. We shall not be soiled.
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| [_strat_] Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:27:26 PM | |
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FFS... Im a god, remember?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:20:29 PM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | you mean types at him? long flight for you to touch him.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | I understand. But I dont agree. I make my reservation now: if the asshole ever gets into the politics thread, no one is to touch him but me!
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | That may be so, strat. I will not argue that. I refuse to be drawn into a name-calling, finger-pointing, self-deprecating battle that will only serve to create yet ANOTHER embarrassment for this site. My point was, and remains, that we as a membership are far above this kind of thinking. To continue to respond directly to this "person" is only giving him further reason to perpetuate that embarrassment.
I do not own this site nor do I have any particular power over it or its members. I am speaking as one member that chooses to put our group before my personal desire to confront this ignorance in a public forum that should be dedicated to the enjoyment of its participants. That is what I meant previously and what I have said now.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, if we go back far enough, all humans can trace their descent to the missing link. Which makes arguing about races even more pointless than it already is.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Personally, as a "proud white man" myself, I am disgusted by the whole thing. I refuse to comment directly to this cretin so I will speak to our group.
When we allow ourselves to be taken down a path of foul ignorance, we also allow ourselves to be drawn down to the level of the low life to which we respond. Further, we do a great injustice to our membership. You see, we also enjoy the "company" we keep and enjoy the true "art" of the music which defines us. BUT, WE do not allow color, religion, race or country of origin to shadow what it means to be a "true" fan. Accordingly, WE do not see things so simply and WE choose to take a more "enlightend" and eclectic approach to our lives.
I will always be "proud" of my heritage. Moreover, I am proud to be part of such a widely diverse group. We have broken the bonds of ignorance and embraced all. Truth be told, unless you are an American Indian, you are NOT of this land. You are an immigrant. Whether that be of white, European heritage or black, Hispanic, Asian or anything else. How that could possibly be missed is beyond me, but I digress.
We are a family. We do not, nor should we ever, allow the stupidity of racism or any other hate (yes, I said hate) to come among us or, WORSE, be acknowledged. We cannot control the ignorance of others, but we can stand high above it. We shall not be soiled. |
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| [Deep Freeze] Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:17:04 PM | |
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Rolling over in my LAZY BOY?!?!?!?!!!????? BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By the way, MY favorite white painter is Fred from Fred's Auto Body, Las Vegas.. Open weekends and evenings. Call Fred and ask about his "Two fer Wun" special....... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| [ron h] Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:23:50 PM | |
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[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:20:29 PM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | you mean types at him? long flight for you to touch him.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | I understand. But I dont agree. I make my reservation now: if the asshole ever gets into the politics thread, no one is to touch him but me!
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | That may be so, strat. I will not argue that. I refuse to be drawn into a name-calling, finger-pointing, self-deprecating battle that will only serve to create yet ANOTHER embarrassment for this site. My point was, and remains, that we as a membership are far above this kind of thinking. To continue to respond directly to this "person" is only giving him further reason to perpetuate that embarrassment.
I do not own this site nor do I have any particular power over it or its members. I am speaking as one member that chooses to put our group before my personal desire to confront this ignorance in a public forum that should be dedicated to the enjoyment of its participants. That is what I meant previously and what I have said now.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, if we go back far enough, all humans can trace their descent to the missing link. Which makes arguing about races even more pointless than it already is.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Personally, as a "proud white man" myself, I am disgusted by the whole thing. I refuse to comment directly to this cretin so I will speak to our group.
When we allow ourselves to be taken down a path of foul ignorance, we also allow ourselves to be drawn down to the level of the low life to which we respond. Further, we do a great injustice to our membership. You see, we also enjoy the "company" we keep and enjoy the true "art" of the music which defines us. BUT, WE do not allow color, religion, race or country of origin to shadow what it means to be a "true" fan. Accordingly, WE do not see things so simply and WE choose to take a more "enlightend" and eclectic approach to our lives.
I will always be "proud" of my heritage. Moreover, I am proud to be part of such a widely diverse group. We have broken the bonds of ignorance and embraced all. Truth be told, unless you are an American Indian, you are NOT of this land. You are an immigrant. Whether that be of white, European heritage or black, Hispanic, Asian or anything else. How that could possibly be missed is beyond me, but I digress.
We are a family. We do not, nor should we ever, allow the stupidity of racism or any other hate (yes, I said hate) to come among us or, WORSE, be acknowledged. We cannot control the ignorance of others, but we can stand high above it. We shall not be soiled. |
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| [ron h] Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:22:27 PM | |
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...I'm sorry if I seemed to come on a little strong, I can be like that sometimes...but I am not angry or anything, nor do I think you and Guido were defending him...we all have a right to be here and our opinions are what makes us different from each other...and agree or not, I do respect all opinions (or at least the person making them)...this actually is good conversation about a very real issue and what ppl from different cultures have to say about it...I truly do find that aspect of it very interesting...and you are right on the mark as far as becoming "what we are criticizing"...
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by paorcamp from Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:02:37 PM)| | | paorcamp wrote: | | yes...I know what you meant...and I'm not saying you insulted him...I'm talking about us all...that's why I didn't quote your message...and I'm not trying to deffend him (for those who think I'd do it)...I just say that in the way he doesn't attack any of us we shouldn't because otherwise we become what we are criticizing...and I know he deserves what he gets for having such a nickname...but as u said...we should be tolerant until the top is reached
| | | ronhartsell wrote: | | ...No one's getting on Guido in a bad way paorcamp...and I don't think I insulted the racist in any way...but just by giving yourself the name (Racist) invites ridicule...it is a negative reference and desrves what it gets...if someone is gonna put themself out there like that, then they should be ready for the stigma (good or bad) that comes with it...and NO, I don't care why he thinks the way he does...and I'll be tolerant until he becomes...how should I say this...becomes 'vocal' in promoting his views...
| | | paorcamp wrote: | | | mmm...Maybe I'm wrong about this but I see guido is just being curious...he's on his right...he's just trying to learn something new...maybe the points of view and the way the racist guy thinks...we are not being fair with them so just let guido ask and the other guy answer....and that's it...even if the guy is being honest or not we all can learn something new....because if he is being honest we can try to get an idea of the way he sees things before we insult him....but if he isn't, then we can see that there's a person with some problems...maybe he was hurt in the past and now is trying to hide in a racist shadow... |
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| [Head banger] Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:20:29 PM | |
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you mean types at him? long flight for you to touch him.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:59:03 PM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | I understand. But I dont agree. I make my reservation now: if the asshole ever gets into the politics thread, no one is to touch him but me!
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | That may be so, strat. I will not argue that. I refuse to be drawn into a name-calling, finger-pointing, self-deprecating battle that will only serve to create yet ANOTHER embarrassment for this site. My point was, and remains, that we as a membership are far above this kind of thinking. To continue to respond directly to this "person" is only giving him further reason to perpetuate that embarrassment.
I do not own this site nor do I have any particular power over it or its members. I am speaking as one member that chooses to put our group before my personal desire to confront this ignorance in a public forum that should be dedicated to the enjoyment of its participants. That is what I meant previously and what I have said now.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, if we go back far enough, all humans can trace their descent to the missing link. Which makes arguing about races even more pointless than it already is.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Personally, as a "proud white man" myself, I am disgusted by the whole thing. I refuse to comment directly to this cretin so I will speak to our group.
When we allow ourselves to be taken down a path of foul ignorance, we also allow ourselves to be drawn down to the level of the low life to which we respond. Further, we do a great injustice to our membership. You see, we also enjoy the "company" we keep and enjoy the true "art" of the music which defines us. BUT, WE do not allow color, religion, race or country of origin to shadow what it means to be a "true" fan. Accordingly, WE do not see things so simply and WE choose to take a more "enlightend" and eclectic approach to our lives.
I will always be "proud" of my heritage. Moreover, I am proud to be part of such a widely diverse group. We have broken the bonds of ignorance and embraced all. Truth be told, unless you are an American Indian, you are NOT of this land. You are an immigrant. Whether that be of white, European heritage or black, Hispanic, Asian or anything else. How that could possibly be missed is beyond me, but I digress.
We are a family. We do not, nor should we ever, allow the stupidity of racism or any other hate (yes, I said hate) to come among us or, WORSE, be acknowledged. We cannot control the ignorance of others, but we can stand high above it. We shall not be soiled. |
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| [paorcamp] Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:02:37 PM | |
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yes...I know what you meant...and I'm not saying you insulted him...I'm talking about us all...that's why I didn't quote your message...and I'm not trying to deffend him (for those who think I'd do it)...I just say that in the way he doesn't attack any of us we shouldn't because otherwise we become what we are criticizing...and I know he deserves what he gets for having such a nickname...but as u said...we should be tolerant until the top is reached
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:51:38 PM)| | | ronhartsell wrote: | | ...No one's getting on Guido in a bad way paorcamp...and I don't think I insulted the racist in any way...but just by giving yourself the name (Racist) invites ridicule...it is a negative reference and desrves what it gets...if someone is gonna put themself out there like that, then they should be ready for the stigma (good or bad) that comes with it...and NO, I don't care why he thinks the way he does...and I'll be tolerant until he becomes...how should I say this...becomes 'vocal' in promoting his views...
| | | paorcamp wrote: | | | mmm...Maybe I'm wrong about this but I see guido is just being curious...he's on his right...he's just trying to learn something new...maybe the points of view and the way the racist guy thinks...we are not being fair with them so just let guido ask and the other guy answer....and that's it...even if the guy is being honest or not we all can learn something new....because if he is being honest we can try to get an idea of the way he sees things before we insult him....but if he isn't, then we can see that there's a person with some problems...maybe he was hurt in the past and now is trying to hide in a racist shadow... |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:59:26 PM | |
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If he has such "discriminating" tastes he could've just called himself "Picky"... 
I am also interested in figuring out this guy's favorites as far as music and art is concerned. He doesn't seem to be directly attacking anyone here except for the city of San Diego and the celebrities he wants to see go away. Besides, it's not everyday one gets to meet a "white nationalist"... |
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| [_strat_] Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:59:03 PM | |
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I understand. But I dont agree. I make my reservation now: if the asshole ever gets into the politics thread, no one is to touch him but me!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, February 17, 2009 11:54:02 AM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | That may be so, strat. I will not argue that. I refuse to be drawn into a name-calling, finger-pointing, self-deprecating battle that will only serve to create yet ANOTHER embarrassment for this site. My point was, and remains, that we as a membership are far above this kind of thinking. To continue to respond directly to this "person" is only giving him further reason to perpetuate that embarrassment.
I do not own this site nor do I have any particular power over it or its members. I am speaking as one member that chooses to put our group before my personal desire to confront this ignorance in a public forum that should be dedicated to the enjoyment of its participants. That is what I meant previously and what I have said now.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, if we go back far enough, all humans can trace their descent to the missing link. Which makes arguing about races even more pointless than it already is.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Personally, as a "proud white man" myself, I am disgusted by the whole thing. I refuse to comment directly to this cretin so I will speak to our group.
When we allow ourselves to be taken down a path of foul ignorance, we also allow ourselves to be drawn down to the level of the low life to which we respond. Further, we do a great injustice to our membership. You see, we also enjoy the "company" we keep and enjoy the true "art" of the music which defines us. BUT, WE do not allow color, religion, race or country of origin to shadow what it means to be a "true" fan. Accordingly, WE do not see things so simply and WE choose to take a more "enlightend" and eclectic approach to our lives.
I will always be "proud" of my heritage. Moreover, I am proud to be part of such a widely diverse group. We have broken the bonds of ignorance and embraced all. Truth be told, unless you are an American Indian, you are NOT of this land. You are an immigrant. Whether that be of white, European heritage or black, Hispanic, Asian or anything else. How that could possibly be missed is beyond me, but I digress.
We are a family. We do not, nor should we ever, allow the stupidity of racism or any other hate (yes, I said hate) to come among us or, WORSE, be acknowledged. We cannot control the ignorance of others, but we can stand high above it. We shall not be soiled. |
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