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[jerZgirl] Monday, April 19, 2010 5:14:53 PM 
Congrats Ron!

Sorry to read about your dad. 
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:40:11 PM)
[Vaillant 3.0] Monday, April 19, 2010 4:33:25 PM 
WOW!! That's a humongous ash cloud!!

Thanks for the pics!! Hopefully everything will be A-OK overthere soon.

When is Wacken Open Air?
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[Head banger] Monday, April 19, 2010 4:06:04 PM 

thanks for the updates.  awesome photos.


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[IceMan (The Northen Warrior)] Monday, April 19, 2010 3:17:26 PM 

Greeting from the country wich is making everything crazy
hello people just thought that you would mabye want to now that I'm fine I'm just sitting here at home and watching a King Crimson concert. The volcano has not effect my life attall and propally want i live far away from it or about 600 km or more there has not been any ash fall jet where I live because of the wind has been blowing away from here in fact there has been very little ash fall in Iceland attall exept for the arounding area of the volcano I just hope it want carry on like this or that Katla wich is a much bigger volcano want errupt because that would have very bad effects for nearly all the northenhemisphere and because that would mean that I would miss Wacken Open Air
I have posted some picture here for you wich I hope you will enjoy the scond pic has been called the face of the volcano and it show the 3 holes were lava is porring from








[joedraper] Monday, April 19, 2010 1:57:19 AM 
Ron, life is too often like this. We get tremendous highs with tremendous lows.  I am so happy that he gets to meet his grandson and that he has you all around to keep him comfortable and to spend as much time with him as you can. Tell him you love him as much as you can and speak about everything that is on your mind. I will be praying for your family and especially for your father.

Freeze, you summed up life so perfectly in that last post! Always with the words of wisdom at the right time, how do you get it right time after time? (Seriously.. a sister needs ideas hear to lift sales rates lol)

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Sunday, April 18, 2010 5:31:30 AM)
[hellrider 31038] Sunday, April 18, 2010 7:18:42 PM 
sorry to hear about your father Ron.he is in my thoughts and prayers for a quick and complete recovery.try to keep positive my good friend..and also wanted to wish you congradlations with your daughter
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[spapad] Sunday, April 18, 2010 7:11:13 PM 
Congratulations Gramps! Sounds like a banner day for you and yours! I'm sure you got lots of pictures! Be sure to send some our way when you get the chance. A blessed new metalhead has joined the world today! lol   I'm sure your father is so looking forward to seeing his great grandchild.
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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Sunday, April 18, 2010 7:06:25 PM 
I'm so sorry to hear about your dad Ron. I really hope that he responds to the chemo and that he can spend some wonderful moments with his great grandson. We are thinking of you and hoping for the best.

And congratulations to you on becoming a grandpa! Enjoy every moment, they are only little for such a short time. There is just something special about holding a newborn baby. I remember watching my sons for hours and the little expresions they would make and wondering the same thing - what are they dreaming about? This is what life is all about - these wonderful moments. Enjoy!
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[guidogodoy] Sunday, April 18, 2010 7:03:19 PM 
Both good and bad news, Ron. Such is life, I know.

Congrats, there, grandpa!
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[ron h] Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:40:11 PM 
Thanks for the kind words everyone!!  

The one thing I'll always hold near to my heart about this place is how we support each other through the good times as well as the bad.  Sure, as with any family we may not always see eye to eye at times, but when it matters most, you all are there!!

As far as my father goes, anyone who's gone through this knows how tough it is to deal with.  The way I'm looking at it is the family has time to properly say good bye, tell him how much we love him, and make however long he has left as comfortable and peaceful as possible for him.  The one thing he wanted to do was live long enough to see his great grandson, he now is gonna have that chance...

...Loghan was born at 7:34am today.  He's 7lb 4oz, 19 1/2 in., dark curly hair (like me) with deep blue eyes (also like me, for now lol), and the little guy is so peaceful.  Just like when my daughter was born, while holding him as he slept I couldn't help but wonder what in the world he was dreaming about?!?  One moment he seemed to smile, the next he's puckering his lips, the next he kicks his leg or moves his arm...what the heck is he dreaming about???

Enjoying the moment is what I did today, and it will live with me forever!!  Mom is healthy while Dad is exhausted and they're both ready for about 15 hours of uninterupted sleep.  Today is a day for me to count my blessings, and to appreciate your kindness...thank you all!!
[jerZgirl] Sunday, April 18, 2010 4:07:17 PM 
Finally went food shopping - worked the dogs - have a migrane...blech.

going to attempt to cook something edible...
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[Head banger] Sunday, April 18, 2010 1:44:39 PM 
Ron.  Best wishes for your Dad, and congrats on your grand daughter.
[Becks] Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:21:30 PM 
Ron, I am very sorry to read that. What an awful situation. I have everything crossed that your Dad responds well to chemo.
And congratulations on becoming a grandpa!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Sunday, April 18, 2010 5:31:30 AM)
[spapad] Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:39:42 AM 
Ron, I know you have too much going on right now.  It's a shame that it is a mixed bag of good and unfortunate.   The greatest generation will be around long enough to meet the new generation, THAT takes determination on the bahalf of your father and he must be a true fighter and someone you must be very proud of. With a determination like his, he may just suprise you and be around for quite some time. Attitude and will are such strong driving forces.
Sometimes we get caught up in the little things of life and fail to see beyond that. Know you and yours are on my mind my friend and I hope for the best for you all.
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[guidogodoy] Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:23:05 AM 
Like DF said, Ron, no need to apologize in the least! In fact, I find it quite humbling that you would even think that with all you have on your plate right now. Take care of yourself and the family, my friend. Don't worry at all about us.

To answer the question, though, yes. That is my little bro. A second question I always got when I first posted those pics long ago was: "is that your father in the scene in the park?" No. The "old man" was the guy who is usually forced to take the picture. Especially when we are skiing.

Congrats on the new gradson. You deserve all the good things life has to offer. Like Freeze said, it is to fragile and, I'll add, too short not to try and live up every moment. I WILL find and scan that Cubbies pic for you. You'll get a laugh.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Sunday, April 18, 2010 5:31:30 AM)
[Deep Freeze] Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:06:16 AM 

No need to apologize, Ron. We are facing a similar situation this weekend, believe it or not. Apparently, the Princess' uncle has been very ill for  several months and fell in his home three days ago. NO ONE came for him and he could not reach a phone so he laid there, helpless, for the entire time! He was placed in ICU last night and she went to the hospital to be with him.  Further, her brother's wife found a lump Friday and has to have emergency surgery next week. In a nutshell, ALL very bad.

I often wonder at times like these about the true fragility of life. Those of us that were around years ago will recall my battle and subsequent life-change. It amazes me how easily we forget that life is so much like a small pool of water in a desert. It exists only so long as conditions allow. The delicate balance that sustains it can change and cause a catastrophic shift in the blink of an eye, yet we go on..everyday..never realizing that we walk a plank in this world and rely on things completely out of our control to keep us from falling. One small change in our world and we start to slip..to teeter..waving our arms desperately as we try to maintain balance... It's only then that we realize there is a VERY real possibility that we will drop. Or that we MAY drop.

I am grateful for each day. I cannot say that this was always so. I worried about tomorrow. I wondered "what will become of me"..? I have come to realize that I can control somethings and others, I cannot. I try, when possible, to live in the moment. Music has made an incredible difference for me. For brief periods, I am transported to another world. Another life. I become someone else. Someone from a dream. I live there for an hour or so and return back to myself and I smile. I know that I am still balanced on that plank..for now. I may fall tomorrow but , then again, I may not. No matter what, I accept that the pool is still there. The water has not dried up and the elements have not conspired against me...today. I drink. I live. I sleep. I do it all again. For now. Enjoy the moment, my friends. Make that moment count. When you wake in the morning and IF the pool is still there, enjoy it again.

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[ron h] Sunday, April 18, 2010 5:31:30 AM 
Sorry I left so abruptly yesterday Freeze and Guido, this has turned into quite the weekend so far.  Had to go visit my Dad yesterday with my brother as he is now in a conv. home.  He had a kidney removed just after the new year because of cancer and was supposedly cancer free after that.  Two weeks ago he was home watching TV when he felt a sharp pain on his side.  A trip to the emergency room and two days of testing later it was discovered that cancer had returned to his lungs, liver and in his bones.  He's been in and out of radiation since and is rarely awake and coherant.  Tomorrow he starts chemo and that will continue until he can't handle it anymore or it's gone (highly unlikely as it's in his bones now).  So being in what I jokingly call a halfway house, he was up and about and we wound up staying the bulk of the day with him.

On the flip side, my daughter is at the hospital about ready to give birth to Loghan, my grandson.  I'll be heading over there in the next hour or so.

Freeze, one could not claim a love for the game if they didn't know who Vin Scully was.  I did not know he was retiring at the end of the season, he will be greatly missed!!  I completely feel your pain, bro.  Like you, the voice's of summers gone by bring warmth to my heart and a smile to my face...eternal youth and hope!!  Vin Scully is a true living legend!!

Guido!!!  I do remember now that I see it!!!!  A fellow Priest AND Cubs fan, it get's no better than that!!!  And that's your brother with you?  Two peas in a pod I say!!
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[Becks] Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:21:57 PM 
Oooooh ramen is yum. I love chilli ramen! LOL!
Sounds like you're super busy jerZgirl, hopefully your holiday soon refreshes you.
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[spapad] Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:23:51 PM 
Well, you have the basic "staples" Kool Aid and Pizza. Maybe it's time to at least go buy some Ramen. lol
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[jerZgirl] Saturday, April 17, 2010 9:40:45 AM 
I need to make a time machine.  Not to travel through time.  But to add more hours in the  day and days in the week. 

What was I thinking?  Working full time then Wed-Fri night I am on the go with the dogs training.  Then Sunday too...
I am going away for a week soon so that will be very nice!!! 

Havent even had time to food shop - my fridge is bare except for the Kool-Aid and the leftover pizza. 
[hellrider 31038] Saturday, April 17, 2010 8:33:15 AM 
I SENCE SOMETHING MIGHTY PAAAAAAAAAAAINKILLLLLLLLLLER FROM THE MIGHTY PRIEST BEAST METAL MACHINE IN THE FUTURE .I DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS BUT I SENCE (FEEL) SOMETHING
[guidogodoy] Saturday, April 17, 2010 8:17:57 AM 
Igualmente.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, April 17, 2010 8:12:42 AM)
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, April 17, 2010 8:12:42 AM 
THAT is a GREAT pic, Guid!!!! yow!! Love that backdrop. Well, the Princess is calling for her breakfast so I am off!!!!!!! Enjoy the morning!
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[guidogodoy] Saturday, April 17, 2010 8:11:21 AM 
Check out the matching crosses (there are four of mine in circulation). Bro has one. Look at his wristband! Anyone want to guess the timeframe? Yeah, AFTER I bought that damn thing for him on the Reunion Tour. Mooch.


[guidogodoy] Saturday, April 17, 2010 8:05:36 AM 
Yes you did. I can quote you your response. Don't push me! LOL!!

Here...perhaps this will refresh your memory. Easy to find as it is one of my first in Photobucket.


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:59:24 AM)
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, April 17, 2010 8:03:32 AM 
Don't even get me started!! You may or may not know this but, 2010 is Vin Scully's final year as THE voice of the Dodgers.  I cannot even begin to tell you guys what his voice means to me. I recall my youth everytime he speaks. Such an icon. Such a true professional and a master of his craft. Things will just NOT be the same without him but I will always be grateful for the memories he has provided.
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[ron h] Saturday, April 17, 2010 8:00:46 AM 
Have a great day Freeze and good luck with them Dodgers!!
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[ron h] Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:59:24 AM 
Well, you've got plenty of time to find the pic as you wrote you would post 'IF' they won the WS.  I've never seen the one of you during the WS!!!

Harry Carey was / is a true legend rip.  I miss him in the booth so much!!  What I wouldn't give to have run into him one night at some bar on Rush Street!!
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[guidogodoy] Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:57:23 AM 
Follow the link...listen to the Dick the Bruiser (yeah, he was a DJ that made a character based upon the wrestler). Then listen to the Kevorkian song. An old friend of my father's, in fact. Too bad I still couldn't "hook you up" Mr. DTE! LOL!!!!
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[guidogodoy] Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:55:05 AM 
Haaa!!! Do you mean the Dick the Bruiser song? I absolutely LOVED it.

Sadly, as someone posted right below the commercial I put forth, "local" radio is growing scarce. They DID play it in old Tiger Stadium but not new "Comerica Field."

Good thing we old folks like to preserve the golden oldies...www.motorcityrock.com/bands/dick_the_bruiser_band/dick_the_bruiser_band_audio.html
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[Deep Freeze] Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:52:35 AM 
Actually, the Tigers are pretty good these days!! GREAT time to get some tix and spend a day at the stadium.  In fact, one of my fondest memories is of a certain day/night in Detroit and a certain event at...the   DTE!!!   HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:48:49 AM)
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:50:14 AM 
And so I shall!!! The Princess has just awoke from her slumber and the coffee is ready. After a cup or two, it will be time from a lttle 'classic' breakfast...some bacon and eggs perhaps? Then we will prepare for today's "Game of the Week"..the Dodgers renew their great rivalry with the San Francisco Giants on Fox today!!! Wonderful!!!!!  Have a GREAT day!
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[guidogodoy] Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:48:49 AM 
Oh, don't get me wrong. I stand by MY post 100% (save for that bad Don Henley song and worst running movie ever made). I actually have a picture of old Tiger Stadium in my office. Got the new one too. Bought at a market right in the streets of Greektown. Need I call back that pic of me and my bro with one of my FIRST JP cross pictures during the World Series? Skipped school every opening day. Sadly, to see the Tigs lose most often than not. Sad to say the same for the Cubbies.

Hell, Harry Carey made life a very good thing in the 7th irrespective of the outcome.

Haven't forgotten the pic of me waiting on the platform for the L, Ron. Just can't find it. HAAAAA!!!
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[ron h] Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:45:24 AM 
Oh yeah, no matter the team is correctamundo (?  lol) !!!  These truly are the best days of our lives my friend, enjoy!!
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[ron h] Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:42:14 AM 
Hi Guido!!

I think of spring training and opening day and that song comes to mind every year!!  Is there a pre-game show or telecast on opening day that doesn't open with that song??  I simply love it!!

I was hoping to catch a game this past week but they traveled to Toronto on the day I had the time.  This is twice now I've missed out on visiting that beautiful new staium they play in now.  I like it that it's recessed below street level a good bit so you can catch a glimpse from the strret on the right side of the stadium.


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[Deep Freeze] Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:35:01 AM 
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good, ol' Don!! Never liked that song all that much...HAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!! Nevertheless, I stand by my post!! Tis MY time of year and it creepeth ever closer!!

Ron, glad I could find a way to take you with me to "that place". Cubs, Dodgers, Toledo Mudhens...makes no diffference to me. Its all about the time of year and all those things which make it what it is to us. Things that remind of us simpler days. Of family vacations in the mountains or at the beach or wherever. Camping, swimming, hiking. Sitting in that aforementioned chair after all the "eatin" is done and just looking into the night sky... Nothing like a warm, summer evening by the pool.
[guidogodoy] Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:32:50 AM 
What? Not my video? LOL!!!!!

Ah, yes....I, too, fondly remember sitting in OLD Tiger Stadium watching ... them lose...


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[ron h] Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:29:48 AM 
Morning folks!!

Freeze, can you paint a picture or what??!!  As a fellow lover of America's past time and this time of the year in general, you 'nailed it' with your words.  Of course I'm a Cubs fan, but my love runs soooooo deep.  No more from me, just gonna slip back into that place your words took me to a moment ago...thank you!!
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[guidogodoy] Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:13:16 AM 
HAAA!!! Good thing Don Henley is an ass and had his song pulled.

Here would be the tribute to your boys....Imagine the song. Personally, I prefer a local Detroit radio version named after the Strohs' brewery on Gratiot road was burned down. "Out on the road today I saw a Moosehead sticker on a Cadillac, a little voice inside my head said 'buy as six pack go and get a six pack."
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[Deep Freeze] Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:04:26 AM 
Good Morning, all! An absolutely memorable Saturday morning here in Las Vegas. Sun is up early, not a cloud in the sky and the temps should be well over 80 degrees today!! It appears that it will be a great day to do something I truly enjoy;  watch Dodger baseball!!! Ahhhhhh....the summer days are closing in and life takes its slow, lazy turn towards bliss...... It is to weep with joy.

SO good to see Steve (Demon) back with us! One of the true pioneers of this site and a respected, honorable member. I recall, with great fondness, days gone by with him, MM, DAS and so many others that have since found their way out into the world. Change is the one true constant, no? Such days of lunacy. Light hearted fun and a closeness that seems to evade us all too often these days.

Forgive me if I wax nostalgic but those of you that know me well know that the warmth of summer and the long, lazy days thereof are my time. This is the time of year that I love most. The blazing hot sun, the scantily clad ladies, the almost mathmatical beat of the ocean waves, the smell of charcoals as the grill awaits its first sizzle of a nice, juicy steak, the timeless dance of the "Boys of Summer" as they play the game I love so dearly and the moments at night when the warmth of the day seems to linger endlessly on your skin and the stars shine just a tiny bit brighter in the summer skies. The ice cold drinks that soothe your parched throat after a long day in the sun. The music (Priest, of course) playing for hours as your sit deep in your chair by the slowly fading coals of another successful barbeque.... If there is a "god", this is what he meant for all of us. Enjoy your day, my friends. Enjoy it and remember it for these truly are our best days.

Edited at: Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:07:01 AM
[spapad] Friday, April 16, 2010 8:39:09 PM 
It was very nice. But it also shows what a private person Glenn is and I respect him for that. I think I enjoyed the Hobbies page the most. He really shows a passion for fishing. Something I would never have a passion for. I like the fact that even the deep sea fish he catches, he releases. Now, that is a person who loves it just for the sport.
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[Vaillant 3.0] Friday, April 16, 2010 7:56:32 PM 
Does it look great or what?!? What an improvement!!!

A big thanks to the webmaster or whoever took on the task of modifying it. Great job!!!
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[spapad] Friday, April 16, 2010 7:39:53 PM 
I'll have to check it out.
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[Vaillant 3.0] Friday, April 16, 2010 7:38:23 PM 
Holy crapola!! You're right!!! It looks shiny!!!!!!!

Thanks for letting us know, Beckies!!
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[spapad] Friday, April 16, 2010 3:52:49 PM 
Happy Friday everybody! It's about damn time! Sorry I missed the convo!
[Head banger] Friday, April 16, 2010 2:47:42 PM 
yeah.  now of recent it is, but back in the day we had this place packed.
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[Becks] Friday, April 16, 2010 2:47:20 PM 
Hey everyone, yay it's the weekend! Thought I'd let you all know, Glenn's website has been updated, it's way better now with heaps of info
[Demonizer13] Friday, April 16, 2010 2:36:37 PM 
Whew! I thought that didn't seem right!
[Head banger] Friday, April 16, 2010 2:33:00 PM 
all the old posts were deleted when the server was moved a while back.  so you lost more years than the sinfull thread did.
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[Demonizer13] Friday, April 16, 2010 2:22:38 PM 
Damn! The Sinfully D thread has almost 2000 more posts! Geez!!!!!
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