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| [Becks] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:46:18 PM | |
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| Germany just scored an excellent goal - 1-0 in that game now. |
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| [ron h] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:20:26 PM | |
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Be careful what you wish for Strat, you just might get it lol. We're not great by any means, but we're not bad either. We haven't come close to playing our best yet, and we're undefeated. We've also been lucky.
The off-sides we complain about should be tempered by the fact that if we don't catch a lucky goal against ENG, our tourney would be over even with today's win.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:12:08 PM)| |  | _strat_ wrote: | | Im rooting that Serbia finishes second in this group - that way they get the US. No better motivation than I can think of.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Ah bugger, Serbia just scored but it was offside. Oh well, try again LOL!
It'll be interesting once this mornings matches are over, to see who is playing the US and England in the group of 16.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Mhm - it would be good if you could beat Paraguay with a big difference, and then for Slovakia to beat Italy with a big difference... Odds are against it, but it can happen, and I hope it does.
Damn, Im sick of this combinations... I cant wait for the knock-out phase.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Yeah I was just looking at the table, a whole bunch of scenarios could happen this morning. I'm just looking forward to 2am tomorrow morning NZ time - NZ vs Paraguay! If we win, we're through! Who would have thought, LOL!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, yeah, I kinda like German playing, and I usualy root for them... But as it is now, Serbia might need a German defeat, if they dont win against Australia... So...
| | | Becks wrote: | | Quiet you!  LOL!!! Not entirely sure why I support Germany to be honest, I just have since they got to the final of the world cup without conceding a goal.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | I beg to differ - go Ghana!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Ghana just about scored a second ago but a German defender got rid of the ball. Not too exciting so far. I juts hope Germany win! LOL!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Hows the Ghana - Germany match? Im onlx watching the Serbs here.
| | | Becks wrote: | | | I'm currently watching Australia vs Serbia, on one channel, and Germany vs Ghana on the other, LOL! |
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| [Becks] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:16:17 PM | |
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Well 0-0 for both games at half time. Hope there's some more exciting football in the next 45 minutes! LOL!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:12:08 PM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Im rooting that Serbia finishes second in this group - that way they get the US. No better motivation than I can think of.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Ah bugger, Serbia just scored but it was offside. Oh well, try again LOL!
It'll be interesting once this mornings matches are over, to see who is playing the US and England in the group of 16.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Mhm - it would be good if you could beat Paraguay with a big difference, and then for Slovakia to beat Italy with a big difference... Odds are against it, but it can happen, and I hope it does.
Damn, Im sick of this combinations... I cant wait for the knock-out phase.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Yeah I was just looking at the table, a whole bunch of scenarios could happen this morning. I'm just looking forward to 2am tomorrow morning NZ time - NZ vs Paraguay! If we win, we're through! Who would have thought, LOL!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, yeah, I kinda like German playing, and I usualy root for them... But as it is now, Serbia might need a German defeat, if they dont win against Australia... So...
| | | Becks wrote: | | Quiet you! LOL!!! Not entirely sure why I support Germany to be honest, I just have since they got to the final of the world cup without conceding a goal.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | I beg to differ - go Ghana!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Ghana just about scored a second ago but a German defender got rid of the ball. Not too exciting so far. I juts hope Germany win! LOL!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Hows the Ghana - Germany match? Im onlx watching the Serbs here.
| | | Becks wrote: | | | I'm currently watching Australia vs Serbia, on one channel, and Germany vs Ghana on the other, LOL! |
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| [_strat_] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:12:08 PM | |
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Im rooting that Serbia finishes second in this group - that way they get the US. No better motivation than I can think of.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:07:54 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | Ah bugger, Serbia just scored but it was offside. Oh well, try again LOL!
It'll be interesting once this mornings matches are over, to see who is playing the US and England in the group of 16.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Mhm - it would be good if you could beat Paraguay with a big difference, and then for Slovakia to beat Italy with a big difference... Odds are against it, but it can happen, and I hope it does.
Damn, Im sick of this combinations... I cant wait for the knock-out phase.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Yeah I was just looking at the table, a whole bunch of scenarios could happen this morning. I'm just looking forward to 2am tomorrow morning NZ time - NZ vs Paraguay! If we win, we're through! Who would have thought, LOL!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, yeah, I kinda like German playing, and I usualy root for them... But as it is now, Serbia might need a German defeat, if they dont win against Australia... So...
| | | Becks wrote: | | Quiet you! LOL!!! Not entirely sure why I support Germany to be honest, I just have since they got to the final of the world cup without conceding a goal.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | I beg to differ - go Ghana!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Ghana just about scored a second ago but a German defender got rid of the ball. Not too exciting so far. I juts hope Germany win! LOL!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Hows the Ghana - Germany match? Im onlx watching the Serbs here.
| | | Becks wrote: | | | I'm currently watching Australia vs Serbia, on one channel, and Germany vs Ghana on the other, LOL! |
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| [_strat_] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:08:15 PM | |
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Refs never call games of their own countries.
There are two assistant refs on the sides, that see very well any offsides, and they usualy inform the main ref about them.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:03:25 PM)| | | ron h wrote: | | I tend to like the human element with regards to officiating, no matter the sport. I think we've all been on both sides of a bad call and it's weird because we only complain when it goes against us, yet cheer when we get lucky.
ALL of these off-sides calls are pure judgement calls as the action is fast and they have to make calls in a split-second. We fans watching on the TV really only know after seeing the slow-motion replay. 'Off-sides' seems to be the big difference maker this year, for a number of teams and not just the U.S. Although that sucks, there's been triple as many shots on goal going off the bar instead of in the net, I'm more concerned about that!!
I tend to think the sport needs better traing, maybe more ref's on the field or ref's not calling games of their own home countries (maybe that's a rule that's already in place, I don't know). What I do know is that if the U.S. made the goals they should have throughout the tournament, today would not have been so critical a match. |
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| [Becks] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:07:54 PM | |
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Ah bugger, Serbia just scored but it was offside. Oh well, try again LOL!
It'll be interesting once this mornings matches are over, to see who is playing the US and England in the group of 16.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:06:05 PM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Mhm - it would be good if you could beat Paraguay with a big difference, and then for Slovakia to beat Italy with a big difference... Odds are against it, but it can happen, and I hope it does.
Damn, Im sick of this combinations... I cant wait for the knock-out phase.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Yeah I was just looking at the table, a whole bunch of scenarios could happen this morning. I'm just looking forward to 2am tomorrow morning NZ time - NZ vs Paraguay! If we win, we're through! Who would have thought, LOL!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, yeah, I kinda like German playing, and I usualy root for them... But as it is now, Serbia might need a German defeat, if they dont win against Australia... So...
| | | Becks wrote: | | Quiet you! LOL!!! Not entirely sure why I support Germany to be honest, I just have since they got to the final of the world cup without conceding a goal.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | I beg to differ - go Ghana!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Ghana just about scored a second ago but a German defender got rid of the ball. Not too exciting so far. I juts hope Germany win! LOL!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Hows the Ghana - Germany match? Im onlx watching the Serbs here.
| | | Becks wrote: | | | I'm currently watching Australia vs Serbia, on one channel, and Germany vs Ghana on the other, LOL! |
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| [_strat_] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:06:05 PM | |
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Mhm - it would be good if you could beat Paraguay with a big difference, and then for Slovakia to beat Italy with a big difference... Odds are against it, but it can happen, and I hope it does.
Damn, Im sick of this combinations... I cant wait for the knock-out phase.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:02:46 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | Yeah I was just looking at the table, a whole bunch of scenarios could happen this morning. I'm just looking forward to 2am tomorrow morning NZ time - NZ vs Paraguay! If we win, we're through! Who would have thought, LOL!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, yeah, I kinda like German playing, and I usualy root for them... But as it is now, Serbia might need a German defeat, if they dont win against Australia... So...
| | | Becks wrote: | | Quiet you! LOL!!! Not entirely sure why I support Germany to be honest, I just have since they got to the final of the world cup without conceding a goal.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | I beg to differ - go Ghana!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Ghana just about scored a second ago but a German defender got rid of the ball. Not too exciting so far. I juts hope Germany win! LOL!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Hows the Ghana - Germany match? Im onlx watching the Serbs here.
| | | Becks wrote: | | | I'm currently watching Australia vs Serbia, on one channel, and Germany vs Ghana on the other, LOL! |
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| [ron h] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:03:25 PM | |
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I tend to like the human element with regards to officiating, no matter the sport. I think we've all been on both sides of a bad call and it's weird because we only complain when it goes against us, yet cheer when we get lucky.
ALL of these off-sides calls are pure judgement calls as the action is fast and they have to make calls in a split-second. We fans watching on the TV really only know after seeing the slow-motion replay. 'Off-sides' seems to be the big difference maker this year, for a number of teams and not just the U.S. Although that sucks, there's been triple as many shots on goal going off the bar instead of in the net, I'm more concerned about that!!
I tend to think the sport needs better traing, maybe more ref's on the field or ref's not calling games of their own home countries (maybe that's a rule that's already in place, I don't know). What I do know is that if the U.S. made the goals they should have throughout the tournament, today would not have been so critical a match. |
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| [Becks] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:02:46 PM | |
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Yeah I was just looking at the table, a whole bunch of scenarios could happen this morning. I'm just looking forward to 2am tomorrow morning NZ time - NZ vs Paraguay! If we win, we're through! Who would have thought, LOL!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:00:47 PM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, yeah, I kinda like German playing, and I usualy root for them... But as it is now, Serbia might need a German defeat, if they dont win against Australia... So...
| | | Becks wrote: | | Quiet you! LOL!!! Not entirely sure why I support Germany to be honest, I just have since they got to the final of the world cup without conceding a goal.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | I beg to differ - go Ghana!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Ghana just about scored a second ago but a German defender got rid of the ball. Not too exciting so far. I juts hope Germany win! LOL!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Hows the Ghana - Germany match? Im onlx watching the Serbs here.
| | | Becks wrote: | | | I'm currently watching Australia vs Serbia, on one channel, and Germany vs Ghana on the other, LOL! |
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| [_strat_] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:00:47 PM | |
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Well, yeah, I kinda like German playing, and I usualy root for them... But as it is now, Serbia might need a German defeat, if they dont win against Australia... So...
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:58:59 AM)| | | Becks wrote: | | Quiet you! LOL!!! Not entirely sure why I support Germany to be honest, I just have since they got to the final of the world cup without conceding a goal.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | I beg to differ - go Ghana!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Ghana just about scored a second ago but a German defender got rid of the ball. Not too exciting so far. I juts hope Germany win! LOL!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Hows the Ghana - Germany match? Im onlx watching the Serbs here.
| | | Becks wrote: | | | I'm currently watching Australia vs Serbia, on one channel, and Germany vs Ghana on the other, LOL! |
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| [Becks] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:58:59 AM | |
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Quiet you! LOL!!! Not entirely sure why I support Germany to be honest, I just have since they got to the final of the world cup without conceding a goal.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:56:47 AM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | I beg to differ - go Ghana!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Ghana just about scored a second ago but a German defender got rid of the ball. Not too exciting so far. I juts hope Germany win! LOL!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Hows the Ghana - Germany match? Im onlx watching the Serbs here.
| | | Becks wrote: | | | I'm currently watching Australia vs Serbia, on one channel, and Germany vs Ghana on the other, LOL! |
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| [_strat_] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:56:47 AM | |
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I beg to differ - go Ghana!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:55:51 AM)| | | Becks wrote: | | Ghana just about scored a second ago but a German defender got rid of the ball. Not too exciting so far. I juts hope Germany win! LOL!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Hows the Ghana - Germany match? Im onlx watching the Serbs here.
| | | Becks wrote: | | | I'm currently watching Australia vs Serbia, on one channel, and Germany vs Ghana on the other, LOL! |
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| [Becks] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:55:51 AM | |
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Ghana just about scored a second ago but a German defender got rid of the ball. Not too exciting so far. I juts hope Germany win! LOL!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:49:55 AM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Hows the Ghana - Germany match? Im onlx watching the Serbs here.
| | | Becks wrote: | | | I'm currently watching Australia vs Serbia, on one channel, and Germany vs Ghana on the other, LOL! |
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| [_strat_] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:49:55 AM | |
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Hows the Ghana - Germany match? Im onlx watching the Serbs here.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:46:26 AM)| | | Becks wrote: | | | I'm currently watching Australia vs Serbia, on one channel, and Germany vs Ghana on the other, LOL! |
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| [Becks] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:46:26 AM | |
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| I'm currently watching Australia vs Serbia, on one channel, and Germany vs Ghana on the other, LOL! |
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| [_strat_] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:44:34 AM | |
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Are you afraid that we might gang up on you?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:43:20 AM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | You two are getting dangerously close to agreeing here.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | The thing is that sometimes, those "mistakes" are not mistakes. It happens sometimes that a referee is genuinely biased, and can screw up a team. As I said, in football, a referee is a powerfull figure.
That said, no I dont get ESPN (whatever that is), I watch the games on our national television - where the commentators have a lot to say about referees too. Now, we lost today 1-0 to England, and guess who the first scapegoat is? The referee.
Personaly, I think that all this bitching about referees is just talk of sore losers, or in case of the US (which now isnt a loser - yet), they were already preparing to have a scapegoat in case they did lose. IDK - I say that we all know more or less what the rules are, and we can make our own opinions about the referees and their decisions. Yeah, there were tournaments in the past where referees were bad, but this one is nothing compared to those.
As for doing something about it... Well, I daresay there is no need. Fans will just have to accept that most of the times referees are not to blame. Sometimes they are, but usualy not.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | As I have mentioned in the past, I do NOT believe that blaming an official is EVER acceptable! Even if they DO make a mistake (which they do). The thing is, there is a remarkable abundance of discussion here on American TV regarding the poor officiating. I am watching ESPN and I assume that is what you all get over there as well? If so, I should think you would notice it also? It is rather annoying.
There are mistakes made by players, coaches AND officials. It happens. It is part of the "human element" I have mentioned. It just seems that poor officiating is the MAIN topic of discussion everyday! I mean, this must be a real problem with the game because they refer consistently to previous Cup matches and they go on and on about poor calls. If this is such an issue, implement "instant replay"! Jeez! They just go on and on about the officials. I was watching the US game this morning and the ref "disallowed" a goal which set off yet ANOTHER barrage of complaining about the officials. Replace them. Shoot them. Do SOMETHING! If it is so bad that it continues to be the biggest news in the tournament, DO something about it.
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| [Head banger] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:43:20 AM | |
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You two are getting dangerously close to agreeing here.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:25:41 AM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | The thing is that sometimes, those "mistakes" are not mistakes. It happens sometimes that a referee is genuinely biased, and can screw up a team. As I said, in football, a referee is a powerfull figure.
That said, no I dont get ESPN (whatever that is), I watch the games on our national television - where the commentators have a lot to say about referees too. Now, we lost today 1-0 to England, and guess who the first scapegoat is? The referee.
Personaly, I think that all this bitching about referees is just talk of sore losers, or in case of the US (which now isnt a loser - yet), they were already preparing to have a scapegoat in case they did lose. IDK - I say that we all know more or less what the rules are, and we can make our own opinions about the referees and their decisions. Yeah, there were tournaments in the past where referees were bad, but this one is nothing compared to those.
As for doing something about it... Well, I daresay there is no need. Fans will just have to accept that most of the times referees are not to blame. Sometimes they are, but usualy not.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | As I have mentioned in the past, I do NOT believe that blaming an official is EVER acceptable! Even if they DO make a mistake (which they do). The thing is, there is a remarkable abundance of discussion here on American TV regarding the poor officiating. I am watching ESPN and I assume that is what you all get over there as well? If so, I should think you would notice it also? It is rather annoying.
There are mistakes made by players, coaches AND officials. It happens. It is part of the "human element" I have mentioned. It just seems that poor officiating is the MAIN topic of discussion everyday! I mean, this must be a real problem with the game because they refer consistently to previous Cup matches and they go on and on about poor calls. If this is such an issue, implement "instant replay"! Jeez! They just go on and on about the officials. I was watching the US game this morning and the ref "disallowed" a goal which set off yet ANOTHER barrage of complaining about the officials. Replace them. Shoot them. Do SOMETHING! If it is so bad that it continues to be the biggest news in the tournament, DO something about it.
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| [_strat_] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:25:41 AM | |
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The thing is that sometimes, those "mistakes" are not mistakes. It happens sometimes that a referee is genuinely biased, and can screw up a team. As I said, in football, a referee is a powerfull figure.
That said, no I dont get ESPN (whatever that is), I watch the games on our national television - where the commentators have a lot to say about referees too. Now, we lost today 1-0 to England, and guess who the first scapegoat is? The referee.
Personaly, I think that all this bitching about referees is just talk of sore losers, or in case of the US (which now isnt a loser - yet), they were already preparing to have a scapegoat in case they did lose. IDK - I say that we all know more or less what the rules are, and we can make our own opinions about the referees and their decisions. Yeah, there were tournaments in the past where referees were bad, but this one is nothing compared to those.
As for doing something about it... Well, I daresay there is no need. Fans will just have to accept that most of the times referees are not to blame. Sometimes they are, but usualy not.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:16:16 AM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | As I have mentioned in the past, I do NOT believe that blaming an official is EVER acceptable! Even if they DO make a mistake (which they do). The thing is, there is a remarkable abundance of discussion here on American TV regarding the poor officiating. I am watching ESPN and I assume that is what you all get over there as well? If so, I should think you would notice it also? It is rather annoying.
There are mistakes made by players, coaches AND officials. It happens. It is part of the "human element" I have mentioned. It just seems that poor officiating is the MAIN topic of discussion everyday! I mean, this must be a real problem with the game because they refer consistently to previous Cup matches and they go on and on about poor calls. If this is such an issue, implement "instant replay"! Jeez! They just go on and on about the officials. I was watching the US game this morning and the ref "disallowed" a goal which set off yet ANOTHER barrage of complaining about the officials. Replace them. Shoot them. Do SOMETHING! If it is so bad that it continues to be the biggest news in the tournament, DO something about it.
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| [Deep Freeze] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:16:16 AM | |
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As I have mentioned in the past, I do NOT believe that blaming an official is EVER acceptable! Even if they DO make a mistake (which they do). The thing is, there is a remarkable abundance of discussion here on American TV regarding the poor officiating. I am watching ESPN and I assume that is what you all get over there as well? If so, I should think you would notice it also? It is rather annoying.
There are mistakes made by players, coaches AND officials. It happens. It is part of the "human element" I have mentioned. It just seems that poor officiating is the MAIN topic of discussion everyday! I mean, this must be a real problem with the game because they refer consistently to previous Cup matches and they go on and on about poor calls. If this is such an issue, implement "instant replay"! Jeez! They just go on and on about the officials. I was watching the US game this morning and the ref "disallowed" a goal which set off yet ANOTHER barrage of complaining about the officials. Replace them. Shoot them. Do SOMETHING! If it is so bad that it continues to be the biggest news in the tournament, DO something about it.
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| [_strat_] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:34:14 AM | |
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Well, its true that in football a referee is a very independant figure, and rules are sometimes very lax just to give the ref space to make his own decisions. What you also have to take into consideration is that blaming the referee is a very common practice of sore loosers. Now, sometimes the ref really is biased, and they can change the game completely, but I dont think that that happend in this cup. Yet.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:37:44 AM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Yes, strat. I do say a lot of things. Like to hear myself talk, I guess...HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! In all honesty, I believe I have finally figured out why this game has not caught on in the US. I mean, the officiating is god-awful! I still have NO idea what I am watching but the announcers are going on AGAIN about the ref making ANOTHER poor call!! It seems as though that is ALL I hear! Now then, there ARE poor calls in every sport but, by and large, the officiating is very good in OUR sports. NOTHING like this, anyway!
Perhaps they need to better review how they pick the officials for this game? I am not sure but I keep hearing this over and over and these announcers are NOT just Americans with a grudge. These are guys from all over the world! They are STILL going on about the "terrible" call that just cost the US a "goal"...??!??!!? Then they start in about 2002 and whatnot so, apparently, this is an ongoing issue? Certainly can see why this is not of much interest here in the States. Maybe they need "instant replay" or something? Maybe a test for referees? I have no idea. Just seems as though the real story continues to be the refs. THAT is sad.
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| [_strat_] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:31:44 AM | |
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Well, pretentious pricks they may be... But US and England deserve to go on. Our team was an utter disapointment. I really think that they were too comfortable today, and went for a draw, then ended up losing everything. They didnt deserve to win after todays performance. Too bad.
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| [Deep Freeze] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:37:44 AM | |
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Yes, strat. I do say a lot of things. Like to hear myself talk, I guess...HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! In all honesty, I believe I have finally figured out why this game has not caught on in the US. I mean, the officiating is god-awful! I still have NO idea what I am watching but the announcers are going on AGAIN about the ref making ANOTHER poor call!! It seems as though that is ALL I hear! Now then, there ARE poor calls in every sport but, by and large, the officiating is very good in OUR sports. NOTHING like this, anyway!
Perhaps they need to better review how they pick the officials for this game? I am not sure but I keep hearing this over and over and these announcers are NOT just Americans with a grudge. These are guys from all over the world! They are STILL going on about the "terrible" call that just cost the US a "goal"...??!??!!? Then they start in about 2002 and whatnot so, apparently, this is an ongoing issue? Certainly can see why this is not of much interest here in the States. Maybe they need "instant replay" or something? Maybe a test for referees? I have no idea. Just seems as though the real story continues to be the refs. THAT is sad.
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| [joedraper] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:33:38 AM | |
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Strat! I'm watching with great expectations for your team today..So far England have thier first goal though.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:41:47 AM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Freeze says a lot of things. Including that a sport where players pass the ball with their hands is football.
| | | spapad wrote: | | Go Yanks................said meekly from underneath the table. HA!! I know we don't stand a chance in hell, or at least from my very limited football knowledge, I think we will get our asses kicked. Obviously the world does too.  I'm glad this isn't, as Freeze would put it, real football.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, Im leaving for bed... As for tomorrow:
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| [_strat_] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:41:47 AM | |
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Freeze says a lot of things. Including that a sport where players pass the ball with their hands is football.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:38:20 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Go Yanks................said meekly from underneath the table. HA!! I know we don't stand a chance in hell, or at least from my very limited football knowledge, I think we will get our asses kicked. Obviously the world does too. I'm glad this isn't, as Freeze would put it, real football.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, Im leaving for bed... As for tomorrow:
Time for the pretentious pricks to go home. |
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| [_strat_] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:40:51 AM | |
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Well, if they got all the cards that they earned, they would have been down to ten by halftime. I hope that the ref on the US - Algeria match wont tolerate such dirty playing.
Abyway, Im rooting that our team and the Algerians win today, and advance. England mustnt go through in any case.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:56:32 PM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Hey, ya never know. They did make a comeback and could have won against Slovenia had their third goal been counted. We'll see what happens tomorrow.
| | | spapad wrote: | | Go Yanks................said meekly from underneath the table. HA!! I know we don't stand a chance in hell, or at least from my very limited football knowledge, I think we will get our asses kicked. Obviously the world does too. I'm glad this isn't, as Freeze would put it, real football.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, Im leaving for bed... As for tomorrow:
Time for the pretentious pricks to go home. |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:56:32 PM | |
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Hey, ya never know. They did make a comeback and could have won against Slovenia had their third goal been counted. We'll see what happens tomorrow.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:38:20 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Go Yanks................said meekly from underneath the table. HA!! I know we don't stand a chance in hell, or at least from my very limited football knowledge, I think we will get our asses kicked. Obviously the world does too. I'm glad this isn't, as Freeze would put it, real football.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, Im leaving for bed... As for tomorrow:
Time for the pretentious pricks to go home. |
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| [spapad] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:38:20 PM | |
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Go Yanks................said meekly from underneath the table. HA!! I know we don't stand a chance in hell, or at least from my very limited football knowledge, I think we will get our asses kicked. Obviously the world does too. I'm glad this isn't, as Freeze would put it, real football.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:33:48 PM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, Im leaving for bed... As for tomorrow:
Time for the pretentious pricks to go home. |
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| [Becks] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 5:39:37 PM | |
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Bahahahaha!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:33:48 PM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, Im leaving for bed... As for tomorrow:
Time for the pretentious pricks to go home. |
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| [_strat_] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:33:48 PM | |
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Well, Im leaving for bed... As for tomorrow:
Time for the pretentious pricks to go home. |
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| [_strat_] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:32:28 PM | |
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Yeah - considering the other match. I sure hope they dont.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:22:20 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | I think they have to beat Serbia by like 3 goals or something.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Lol... Yeah, I understand. Wouldnt root for Italy myself if they played against Mars.
Although, if Im not much mistaken, Aussies have pretty abysmal chances to get through.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL! It's just the NZ/Oz rivalry. I wouldn't mind if they got through, but yeah
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Yeah, I guess it is, lol.
But hang on a minute... How come a New Zealander is rooting against the Aussies? I thought you liked each other?
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL!!!!! It's all a part of the fun of the world cup.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well... Its one out of three. Could be worse.
| | | Becks wrote: | | I'm rooting for England, Germany and Serbia LOL!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Ok, tomorrow... Is the decision day! Im rooting for our boys to beat England, and the Algerians to beat the US. We need a draw or a win, or even a defeat (it then depends on the outcome of the US - Algeria game) to advance.
In group D, I will be rooting for Serbia (hopefully they can take out Australia) and Ghana (good luck against Germany). It would be great that if we go on, that Serbia finishes in the same place in their group as we will in ours, that way we wont meet in the round of 16.
First fixtures for the round of 16 too: South Korea vs. Urugvay (go Korea) and Mexico vs. Argentina (go Mexico). |
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| [Becks] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:22:20 PM | |
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I think they have to beat Serbia by like 3 goals or something.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:53:41 PM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Lol... Yeah, I understand. Wouldnt root for Italy myself if they played against Mars.
Although, if Im not much mistaken, Aussies have pretty abysmal chances to get through.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL! It's just the NZ/Oz rivalry. I wouldn't mind if they got through, but yeah
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Yeah, I guess it is, lol.
But hang on a minute... How come a New Zealander is rooting against the Aussies? I thought you liked each other?
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL!!!!! It's all a part of the fun of the world cup.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well... Its one out of three. Could be worse.
| | | Becks wrote: | | I'm rooting for England, Germany and Serbia LOL!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Ok, tomorrow... Is the decision day! Im rooting for our boys to beat England, and the Algerians to beat the US. We need a draw or a win, or even a defeat (it then depends on the outcome of the US - Algeria game) to advance.
In group D, I will be rooting for Serbia (hopefully they can take out Australia) and Ghana (good luck against Germany). It would be great that if we go on, that Serbia finishes in the same place in their group as we will in ours, that way we wont meet in the round of 16.
First fixtures for the round of 16 too: South Korea vs. Urugvay (go Korea) and Mexico vs. Argentina (go Mexico). |
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| [_strat_] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:53:41 PM | |
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Lol... Yeah, I understand. Wouldnt root for Italy myself if they played against Mars.
Although, if Im not much mistaken, Aussies have pretty abysmal chances to get through.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:48:27 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL! It's just the NZ/Oz rivalry. I wouldn't mind if they got through, but yeah
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Yeah, I guess it is, lol.
But hang on a minute... How come a New Zealander is rooting against the Aussies? I thought you liked each other?
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL!!!!! It's all a part of the fun of the world cup.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well... Its one out of three. Could be worse.
| | | Becks wrote: | | I'm rooting for England, Germany and Serbia LOL!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Ok, tomorrow... Is the decision day! Im rooting for our boys to beat England, and the Algerians to beat the US. We need a draw or a win, or even a defeat (it then depends on the outcome of the US - Algeria game) to advance.
In group D, I will be rooting for Serbia (hopefully they can take out Australia) and Ghana (good luck against Germany). It would be great that if we go on, that Serbia finishes in the same place in their group as we will in ours, that way we wont meet in the round of 16.
First fixtures for the round of 16 too: South Korea vs. Urugvay (go Korea) and Mexico vs. Argentina (go Mexico). |
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| [Becks] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:48:27 PM | |
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LOL! It's just the NZ/Oz rivalry. I wouldn't mind if they got through, but yeah
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:32:58 PM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Yeah, I guess it is, lol.
But hang on a minute... How come a New Zealander is rooting against the Aussies? I thought you liked each other?
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL!!!!! It's all a part of the fun of the world cup.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well... Its one out of three. Could be worse.
| | | Becks wrote: | | I'm rooting for England, Germany and Serbia LOL!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Ok, tomorrow... Is the decision day! Im rooting for our boys to beat England, and the Algerians to beat the US. We need a draw or a win, or even a defeat (it then depends on the outcome of the US - Algeria game) to advance.
In group D, I will be rooting for Serbia (hopefully they can take out Australia) and Ghana (good luck against Germany). It would be great that if we go on, that Serbia finishes in the same place in their group as we will in ours, that way we wont meet in the round of 16.
First fixtures for the round of 16 too: South Korea vs. Urugvay (go Korea) and Mexico vs. Argentina (go Mexico). |
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| [_strat_] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:32:58 PM | |
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Yeah, I guess it is, lol.
But hang on a minute... How come a New Zealander is rooting against the Aussies? I thought you liked each other?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:27:43 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL!!!!! It's all a part of the fun of the world cup.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well... Its one out of three. Could be worse.
| | | Becks wrote: | | I'm rooting for England, Germany and Serbia LOL!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Ok, tomorrow... Is the decision day! Im rooting for our boys to beat England, and the Algerians to beat the US. We need a draw or a win, or even a defeat (it then depends on the outcome of the US - Algeria game) to advance.
In group D, I will be rooting for Serbia (hopefully they can take out Australia) and Ghana (good luck against Germany). It would be great that if we go on, that Serbia finishes in the same place in their group as we will in ours, that way we wont meet in the round of 16.
First fixtures for the round of 16 too: South Korea vs. Urugvay (go Korea) and Mexico vs. Argentina (go Mexico). |
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| [Becks] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:27:43 PM | |
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LOL!!!!! It's all a part of the fun of the world cup.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:26:35 PM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well... Its one out of three. Could be worse.
| | | Becks wrote: | | I'm rooting for England, Germany and Serbia LOL!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Ok, tomorrow... Is the decision day! Im rooting for our boys to beat England, and the Algerians to beat the US. We need a draw or a win, or even a defeat (it then depends on the outcome of the US - Algeria game) to advance.
In group D, I will be rooting for Serbia (hopefully they can take out Australia) and Ghana (good luck against Germany). It would be great that if we go on, that Serbia finishes in the same place in their group as we will in ours, that way we wont meet in the round of 16.
First fixtures for the round of 16 too: South Korea vs. Urugvay (go Korea) and Mexico vs. Argentina (go Mexico). |
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| [_strat_] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:26:35 PM | |
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Well... Its one out of three. Could be worse.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:25:21 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | I'm rooting for England, Germany and Serbia LOL!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Ok, tomorrow... Is the decision day! Im rooting for our boys to beat England, and the Algerians to beat the US. We need a draw or a win, or even a defeat (it then depends on the outcome of the US - Algeria game) to advance.
In group D, I will be rooting for Serbia (hopefully they can take out Australia) and Ghana (good luck against Germany). It would be great that if we go on, that Serbia finishes in the same place in their group as we will in ours, that way we wont meet in the round of 16.
First fixtures for the round of 16 too: South Korea vs. Urugvay (go Korea) and Mexico vs. Argentina (go Mexico). |
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| [Becks] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:25:21 PM | |
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I'm rooting for England, Germany and Serbia LOL!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:22:37 PM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Ok, tomorrow... Is the decision day! Im rooting for our boys to beat England, and the Algerians to beat the US. We need a draw or a win, or even a defeat (it then depends on the outcome of the US - Algeria game) to advance.
In group D, I will be rooting for Serbia (hopefully they can take out Australia) and Ghana (good luck against Germany). It would be great that if we go on, that Serbia finishes in the same place in their group as we will in ours, that way we wont meet in the round of 16.
First fixtures for the round of 16 too: South Korea vs. Urugvay (go Korea) and Mexico vs. Argentina (go Mexico). |
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| [_strat_] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:24:33 PM | |
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Thats what they get for hiring a prick to be their coach. Tho I do feel sorry for the players a bit. They will be lynched when they get back home.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:27:43 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooh South Africa won! That's so cool! Bye bye France! Hahahaha!
Stupid tv showing a replay of the game they just showed live, Greece vs Argentina. I want to see the SA vs France game! |
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| [_strat_] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:22:37 PM | |
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Ok, tomorrow... Is the decision day! Im rooting for our boys to beat England, and the Algerians to beat the US. We need a draw or a win, or even a defeat (it then depends on the outcome of the US - Algeria game) to advance.
In group D, I will be rooting for Serbia (hopefully they can take out Australia) and Ghana (good luck against Germany). It would be great that if we go on, that Serbia finishes in the same place in their group as we will in ours, that way we wont meet in the round of 16.
First fixtures for the round of 16 too: South Korea vs. Urugvay (go Korea) and Mexico vs. Argentina (go Mexico). |
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| [_strat_] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:17:58 PM | |
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Lol!! Great... Although I rooted for Greece, but what the hell... They didnt have a lot of chances in any case.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by joedraper from Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:26:11 PM)| | | joedraper wrote: | | 
Well done Argentina! |
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| [Becks] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:27:43 PM | |
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Oooh South Africa won! That's so cool! Bye bye France! Hahahaha!
Stupid tv showing a replay of the game they just showed live, Greece vs Argentina. I want to see the SA vs France game! |
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| [joedraper] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:26:11 PM | |
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Well done Argentina! |
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| [joedraper] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:37:32 AM | |
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| [_strat_] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:42:03 AM | |
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Well, too bad for SA... I was really hoping that they will advance. But I guess that today it was a bit too much. I mean, they would have to win with four goals of difference, considering the result of the other game. Still, no matter what state the French team is in, this is a victory to remember.
Well, I cant wait till tomorrow. The euphoria here is reaching its climax, and if we fail to go to the next round it will probably mean a national disaster.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by joedraper from Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:12:53 AM)| | | joedraper wrote: | | We may have just lost the war but we put up one hell of a fight! lol
I am so proud of our boys. We may not be going through to the next round but we played one hell of a game!
Stupid french goalie.. catching all our balls lol.
I knew that we weren't strong enough to go all the way but we needed this win today to go out in style so to say..
I am proudly South African today and now we can go back to being the best host country in WC history!
So far all the tourists I've enountered have thoroughly enjoyed being here.
I'm happy tonight and ready to pop the champagne to celebrate the great game played by our guys! Can't call them boys anymore they are men now!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Great, but they need more. As it is now, Mexico advances on goal difference. I hope that Urugvay and SA can both score a couple of times more.
| | | joedraper wrote: | | | First half done with 2 goals under our belts! Hell fecking Yeah! |
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| [joedraper] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:12:53 AM | |
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We may have just lost the war but we put up one hell of a fight! lol
I am so proud of our boys. We may not be going through to the next round but we played one hell of a game!
Stupid french goalie.. catching all our balls lol.
I knew that we weren't strong enough to go all the way but we needed this win today to go out in style so to say..
I am proudly South African today and now we can go back to being the best host country in WC history!
So far all the tourists I've enountered have thoroughly enjoyed being here.
I'm happy tonight and ready to pop the champagne to celebrate the great game played by our guys! Can't call them boys anymore they are men now!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Tuesday, June 22, 2010 8:25:26 AM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Great, but they need more. As it is now, Mexico advances on goal difference. I hope that Urugvay and SA can both score a couple of times more.
| | | joedraper wrote: | | | First half done with 2 goals under our belts! Hell fecking Yeah! |
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| [_strat_] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 8:25:26 AM | |
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Great, but they need more. As it is now, Mexico advances on goal difference. I hope that Urugvay and SA can both score a couple of times more.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by joedraper from Tuesday, June 22, 2010 7:52:18 AM)| | | joedraper wrote: | | | First half done with 2 goals under our belts! Hell fecking Yeah! |
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| [joedraper] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 7:52:18 AM | |
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| First half done with 2 goals under our belts! Hell fecking Yeah! |
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| [joedraper] Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:57:20 AM | |
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Players on pitch... National anthems being sung.. Tears being shed and me sweating my socks off in anticipation. I know our boys are not the most qualified at this level but please... pretty fecking please let them at least not bet bombed out in the opening round... That's all I'm asking for.
It's Ayoba time! Lemme go blast my vuvuzela in support!
Thanks for rooting for our boys Vail xxx
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:26:06 AM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | THAT is how a commentator should comment during a football game.
Speaking of game, it's almost time for the following matches:
Mexico vs. Uruguay (Go Mexico!)
South Africa vs. France (Good luck SA!)
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Lol, now THAT is some commentator!
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Here's one for you. Ronaldinho against England in 02.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | I've not seen such bad acting since the LAST Stallone movie!
Honestly, that is what I (and many) really cannot stand in football. That bad acting. He runs into Kaká's shoulder with his chest and grabs his face sending Kaká out on a red?!? At least with Ice Hockey or American Football, when they are down, they have blood on the field / ice and, or broken bones! Wimps.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | | Kaka is off the field. Not sure if he really hit that player, tho... |
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