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[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, February 17, 2011 3:38:40 PM
Finally confirmed,the new Saxon album will be called "Call To Arms" and should be out in April! Edited at: Thursday, February 17, 2011 3:47:02 PM
[jimmyjames] Monday, January 03, 2011 5:24:05 PM
Well I purchased Lionheart yesterday and have listened to it twice so far. Have to say it was pretty good and I'm sure it will get even better with a few more listens.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, December 31, 2010 5:17:02 PM
Oh yeah,make no mistake about it Saxon "fucked up thier career" in the 80's from "crap" like Ride Like The Wind. The band's first 5 studio LPs are cool but they actually have 6 straight albums that are not good from Crusader 1984 to Forever Free 1992 then they turned thier career around starting from 1995 Dogs Of War album till now.
But yeah they really "sucked" in the mid to late 80's man,they were a freakin "joke" but people still think they are like that but they are not. Biff even said he wishes that he never "sold out" to the American market with the MTV glam rock scene,he said he regrets it very much and wishes that those albums were better,he doesn't even like the 1986 "Rock The Nations" album at all,as hecan't stand to listen to it. Saxon's Biff Byford always says that Saxon plays a mix between traditional british heavy metal that fits into the category with Judas Priest and Iron Maiden but they also have half thier albums that is traditional "rock" as well. Slow Lane Blues is a bluesey track off the new album and its a classic.
Thanks to Tina from Walsall England for getting me into Saxon in 2005,Tina you rock!
Sweet, thanks for the advice. I actually played Man and Machine on my show a couple of weeks ago. Cool track. A lot of their stuff is good. I have changed my tune about Saxon a bit since I realised they weren't all about that Ride Like The Wind shit.
Edited at: Friday, December 31, 2010 5:26:04 PM
[jimmyjames] Friday, December 31, 2010 4:37:07 PM
Sweet, thanks for the advice. I actually played Man and Machine on my show a couple of weeks ago. Cool track. A lot of their stuff is good. I have changed my tune about Saxon a bit since I realised they weren't all about that Ride Like The Wind shit.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, December 31, 2010 4:12:08 PM
Man And Machine -Lionheart
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, December 31, 2010 4:09:34 PM
Saxon - To live By The Sword - 2004 Lionheart This song totally kicks ass! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, December 30, 2010 3:42:44 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I am going to by a couple of Saxons later albums and check them out.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon - Valley Of The Kings - Into The Labyrinth - 2009 Another excellent Saxon track of quality and consistancy.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, December 31, 2010 4:00:25 PM
Thats cool Jimmy. With a "couple" meaning "2" then if I had to recommend an album to check out it would be 2004's "Lionheart". The next album I would check out is 2007's "The Inner Sanctum". Those are Saxon's best 2 albums but only in my opinion,there are some songs that are better than others as like all albums but on those 2 albums I actually like every song on both albums,that is very unusual for me.
Usually there are at least 2 songs out of 10 that I end up not liking,but like every track on both LPs. You may find a couple of tracks on these LPs that you don't like but hopefully you'll like the majority of both albums,you should still get 8 songs off each album that are quality and 8 songs makes up an album's worth at least.
I am going to by a couple of Saxons later albums and check them out.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon - Valley Of The Kings - Into The Labyrinth - 2009 Another excellent Saxon track of quality and consistancy.
Edited at: Friday, December 31, 2010 4:01:45 PM
[jimmyjames] Thursday, December 30, 2010 3:42:44 PM
I am going to by a couple of Saxons later albums and check them out. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, December 30, 2010 3:54:34 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon - Valley Of The Kings - Into The Labyrinth - 2009 Another excellent Saxon track of quality and consistancy.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, December 30, 2010 3:54:34 AM
Saxon - Valley Of The Kings - Into The Labyrinth - 2009 Another excellent Saxon track of quality and consistancy.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, December 28, 2010 2:14:14 AM
Saxon Demon Sweeny Todd - 2009 Into The Labyrinth album - totally kick ass British Heavy Metal! Edited at: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 2:14:28 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, December 27, 2010 4:42:13 PM
BATALLIONS OF STEEL - first track off the current album Into The Labyrinth(2009)one of Saxon's top 10 best tracks ever written. Judas Priest will always be the Godfathers of British Heavy Metal but with thier retirement Saxon takes the torch and continues heavy metal's traditional paths. Edited at: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:45:25 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, December 27, 2010 4:38:37 PM
Who would of thought back in the 80's that it would be Saxon that ended up ontop of Judas Priest and Iron Maiden in writting "quality" and "traditional" british heavy metal albums and with quality consistancy? I always thought that in the end Priest and Maiden would shape up in time to release thier best albums late in thier career but it has been anything but that.
Saxon is the band out of the 3 that ended up writting thier best material at this stage in thier career and with them giving thier fans a 19th studio album in March 2011 they haven't yet said anything about retireing but if they do at least we will get this new studio LP,that is fucking awsome!
I'll bet that Saxon will record thier 20th studio album in 2013,they are extremely motivated when it comes to writting albums. If this new studio album turns out excellent in quality ect...then they will have 8 studio albums in a row that are the band's best material,we'll wait and see.
The only reason there is a 3 year gap between 2001 and 2004 is because the label wanted Saxon to record "Heavy Metal Thunder" which is a re-recorded CD of tracks from the 80's and there is a 3 year gap between 2004 and 2007 because Biff's house burnt down in France,otherwise there would be an album every 2 years and actually there would be yet even another studio album out.
Dogs Of War ---------------1995
Unleash The Beast-------1997
Metalhead-------------------1999
Killing Ground--------------2001
Lionheart--------------------2004
The Inner Sanctum-------2007
Into The Labyrinth---------2009
New Album in March -----2011
These are Saxon's 7 best albums in my opinion and we'll wait and see if the new album is good quality song writting....
Saxon is a great band that unfortunately never really hit it big here in the states
it's a shame that they dont come around very often they've always been one of my favorites
Edited at: Monday, December 27, 2010 5:08:19 PM
[the highway terror] Thursday, December 23, 2010 11:51:15 PM
Saxon is a great band that unfortunately never really hit it big here in the states
it's a shame that they dont come around very often they've always been one of my favorites
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, December 17, 2010 5:04:09 PM
Very cool Jimmy. Heavy Metal Thunder is a very classic quality Saxon track. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Friday, December 10, 2010 5:44:46 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Here's some Saxon for you JD, I'm sure you've seen it before though
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J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon to release thier 19th studio album in March 2011 !!!!!! This is great news for Saxon fans after getting out hearts ripped out today,at least its something to look forwards to.
[jimmyjames] Friday, December 10, 2010 5:44:46 PM
Here's some Saxon for you JD, I'm sure you've seen it before though
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J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon to release thier 19th studio album in March 2011 !!!!!! This is great news for Saxon fans after getting out hearts ripped out today,at least its something to look forwards to.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, December 07, 2010 5:15:23 PM
Saxon to release thier 19th studio album in March 2011 !!!!!! This is great news for Saxon fans after getting out hearts ripped out today,at least its something to look forwards to.
[Head banger] Friday, October 29, 2010 8:21:32 AM
I aint a neo anything. I am original! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:20:00 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
You, sir, are a "neo-maxi-zoom-dweebie!" BWWAHAAAAAAHAAAA!!!
Head banger wrote:
like totaly dude...
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
I don't know why HB, but the use of the word "fail" like that makes me laugh. Are you trying to talk like the trendy kids of today, HB?
J.D., I think Judas Priest did take some lessons from Saxon in regards to releasing albums every two years or so, at least in the 80s... and then they released the disaster (for some, and probably for them) that was Turbo, which took two years to make after the release of DOTF. But then again, they got back with Painkiller, which also took two years to make after the release of RID. One size does not fit all, IMO, especially if it becomes incompatible with the work ethic of a band. How is JP's work ethic now? Well...you be the judge. They're either writing new material right now, or still relaxing, or waiting for Rob to come back from his tour with his solo band so that they can begin writing, or...something else. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, October 29, 2010 5:46:31 AM
Hey Zomby nice to see you here my friend. No,I don't think I saw that one,was it an old 80's video clip or nowadays? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by zomby from Friday, October 29, 2010 5:33:21 AM)
zomby wrote:
bloody brilliant cant you find the one where guitarist smashes his guittar jd
[Zomby] Friday, October 29, 2010 5:33:21 AM
bloody brilliant cant you find the one where guitarist smashes his guittar jd
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, October 29, 2010 5:26:14 AM
Opening track from the Chronicles Wacken DVD "Motorcycle Man",professionally shot video with 5.1 surround this DVD fuckin kicks ass!!! Iron Maiden can't touch this shit not even close!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, October 29, 2010 4:49:54 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Thoughts? Of course. Its pretty quite simple Guido,lets face it...Saxon's quality of music in the 1980's was nowhere near the "kick ass factor" that Judas Priest had,and Iron Maiden "had"....with albums like Unleashed In The East,British Steel,Screaming For Vengeance and Defenders Of The Faith(1979 - 1984) and Iron Maiden 1980 debut ,Killers,The Number Of The Beast,Piece Of Mind and Powerslave......and Motorhead's Bomber,Ace Of Spades,Iron Fist albums....
These albums in my opinion and many others were and are better than Saxon's first 5 studio albums from thier debut album "Saxon" in 1979,Wheels Of Steel 1980,Strong Arm Of The Law,Denim & Leather and Power & The Glory(1983.)
Sure these Saxon albums are cool yes,but they are not as "good" as the other band's albums,they are just not and then you had Saxon's image,it spanked of "cheese" and they looked silly.They just couldn't top Priest,Maiden and Motorhead. That is "why" Guido but the dagger for Saxon was in 1984 with thier 6th studio album "Crusader" ...sure the song 'Crusader" is total classic Saxon and is one hell of a kick ass song and I mean that,but the rest of the entire album "sucked balls" and they went "glam" with the rest of the album's sound and the band's image,it just sucked.
Then they did Innosence Is No Excuse in 1985 and that album full blown "sucked",it is utterly terrible.Then in 1986 they did the shitty "Rock The Nations" album with the same glam crap,then again in 1988 with "Destiny". So from 1984 to 1989 they killed themselves out of the scene they were really never able to uphold popularity in,in the first place and rightfully so with those shitty albums.
Even if they didn't go "glam" and kept putting out albums like Wheels Of Steel with old guitarist Grahm Oliver they still wouldn't of been in the same quality elite group of Judas Priest,Iron Maiden and Motorhead obviously.
Although in 1990 and 1992 with Solid Ball Of Rock and Forever Free albums they were only half good and still didn't harness a "kick ass factor". It wasn't untill 1995 that Saxon started "kicking some ass" and they released Dogs Of War with 10 tracks,7 of them kick ass,3 were glammy left-overs but they were headed in the right direction. Then in 1997 the Unleash The Beast album totally kicked ass man,again with Metalhead album in 99' then Killing Ground,Lionheart,The Inner Sanctum and Into The Labyrinth(2009)....
I belive if Saxon would of been putting these albums out in the early 80's with the band's now-a-days image of black cloths and leather jackets ect....I think they would of "took off" a little bit more Guido...no not as much and not as popular as Judas Priest,Maiden or Motorhead but yeah I really think that they would of taken flight a little more with the metal fans of the 1980's back then.
Imagine if Lionheart was released in 1983 with the band's current image,next to albums like Piece of Mind,Sceaming For Vengeance,Holy Diver,Iron Fist...ect...it would of made a much bigger impression with metal fans....again they still wouldn't be as "popular" as Priest,Maiden or Motorhead but it would of been much more exposure for them back then. I was being a smart ass when I said Priest should take lessons from Saxon,but I still belive that because of how Saxon puts out an album every 2 years man!! lol!
Not to mention,yes Judas Priest is better than Saxon obviously and yes they are my favorite band but Saxon has been so,so much more "consistant" with "quality" releases of studio albums these last 15 years,they actually wipe up the floor with Judas Priest and Iron Maiden with "quality" studio albums these last 15 years except for Angel Of Retibution which is just as good as Saxon's last 7 studio albums,better in some cases.
Its a shame that Saxon are really not heard of these days,they deserve so much more yet they NEVER complain about any of this,they just love what they are doing and keep British Heavy Metal alive with thier brand of hard rock and heavy metal. Anybody who thinks they are not worthy,I'd challenge them to watch and listen to the Wacken concert 2001 in Germany that they headlined with about 30 or 40 thousand heavy metal fans ,thats in the Saxon Chronicles DVD,check it out Guido.
(Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:54:29 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, October 29, 2010 4:49:54 AM
Thoughts? Of course. Its pretty quite simple Guido,lets face it...Saxon's quality of music in the 1980's was nowhere near the "kick ass factor" that Judas Priest had,and Iron Maiden "had"....with albums like Unleashed In The East,British Steel,Screaming For Vengeance and Defenders Of The Faith(1979 - 1984) and Iron Maiden 1980 debut ,Killers,The Number Of The Beast,Piece Of Mind and Powerslave......and Motorhead's Bomber,Ace Of Spades,Iron Fist albums....
These albums in my opinion and many others were and are better than Saxon's first 5 studio albums from thier debut album "Saxon" in 1979,Wheels Of Steel 1980,Strong Arm Of The Law,Denim & Leather and Power & The Glory(1983.)
Sure these Saxon albums are cool yes,but they are not as "good" as the other band's albums,they are just not and then you had Saxon's image,it spanked of "cheese" and they looked silly.They just couldn't top Priest,Maiden and Motorhead. That is "why" Guido but the dagger for Saxon was in 1984 with thier 6th studio album "Crusader" ...sure the song 'Crusader" is total classic Saxon and is one hell of a kick ass song and I mean that,but the rest of the entire album "sucked balls" and they went "glam" with the rest of the album's sound and the band's image,it just sucked.
Then they did Innosence Is No Excuse in 1985 and that album full blown "sucked",it is utterly terrible.Then in 1986 they did the shitty "Rock The Nations" album with the same glam crap,then again in 1988 with "Destiny". So from 1984 to 1989 they killed themselves out of the scene they were really never able to uphold popularity in,in the first place and rightfully so with those shitty albums.
Even if they didn't go "glam" and kept putting out albums like Wheels Of Steel with old guitarist Grahm Oliver they still wouldn't of been in the same quality elite group of Judas Priest,Iron Maiden and Motorhead obviously.
Although in 1990 and 1992 with Solid Ball Of Rock and Forever Free albums they were only half good and still didn't harness a "kick ass factor". It wasn't untill 1995 that Saxon started "kicking some ass" and they released Dogs Of War with 10 tracks,7 of them kick ass,3 were glammy left-overs but they were headed in the right direction. Then in 1997 the Unleash The Beast album totally kicked ass man,again with Metalhead album in 99' then Killing Ground,Lionheart,The Inner Sanctum and Into The Labyrinth(2009)....
I belive if Saxon would of been putting these albums out in the early 80's with the band's now-a-days image of black cloths and leather jackets ect....I think they would of "took off" a little bit more Guido...no not as much and not as popular as Judas Priest,Maiden or Motorhead but yeah I really think that they would of taken flight a little more with the metal fans of the 1980's back then.
Imagine if Lionheart was released in 1983 with the band's current image,next to albums like Piece of Mind,Sceaming For Vengeance,Holy Diver,Iron Fist...ect...it would of made a much bigger impression with metal fans....again they still wouldn't be as "popular" as Priest,Maiden or Motorhead but it would of been much more exposure for them back then. I was being a smart ass when I said Priest should take lessons from Saxon,but I still belive that because of how Saxon puts out an album every 2 years man!! lol!
Not to mention,yes Judas Priest is better than Saxon obviously and yes they are my favorite band but Saxon has been so,so much more "consistant" with "quality" releases of studio albums these last 15 years,they actually wipe up the floor with Judas Priest and Iron Maiden with "quality" studio albums these last 15 years except for Angel Of Retibution which is just as good as Saxon's last 7 studio albums,better in some cases.
Its a shame that Saxon are really not heard of these days,they deserve so much more yet they NEVER complain about any of this,they just love what they are doing and keep British Heavy Metal alive with thier brand of hard rock and heavy metal. Anybody who thinks they are not worthy,I'd challenge them to watch and listen to the Wacken concert 2001 in Germany that they headlined with about 30 or 40 thousand heavy metal fans ,thats in the Saxon Chronicles DVD,check it out Guido.
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
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[Becks] Friday, October 29, 2010 12:05:00 AM
I agree totally Spa. Considering Priest were hitting their stride before I was born, I am forever grateful that they are still around producing heavy metal. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:28:38 PM)
spapad wrote:
Rob has got to rest at some time too, or should. So six months beyond the end of the Halford tour they might get in the studio. If you think about it, most bands when they reach "maturity" don't put out as many albums as they used to, IF they do at all! We all should be happy that JP is still around and delivering the goods. I do hope for a more traditional album next time and I'm sure they will give us a beauty. For the Faithful!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
I don't know why HB, but the use of the word "fail" like that makes me laugh. Are you trying to talk like the trendy kids of today, HB?
J.D., I think Judas Priest did take some lessons from Saxon in regards to releasing albums every two years or so, at least in the 80s... and then they released the disaster (for some, and probably for them) that was Turbo, which took two years to make after the release of DOTF. But then again, they got back with Painkiller, which also took two years to make after the release of RID. One size does not fit all, IMO, especially if it becomes incompatible with the work ethic of a band. How is JP's work ethic now? Well...you be the judge. They're either writing new material right now, or still relaxing, or waiting for Rob to come back from his tour with his solo band so that they can begin writing, or...something else. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
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[guidogodoy] Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:20:00 PM
You, sir, are a "neo-maxi-zoom-dweebie!" BWWAHAAAAAAHAAAA!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:09:13 PM)
Head banger wrote:
like totaly dude...
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
I don't know why HB, but the use of the word "fail" like that makes me laugh. Are you trying to talk like the trendy kids of today, HB?
J.D., I think Judas Priest did take some lessons from Saxon in regards to releasing albums every two years or so, at least in the 80s... and then they released the disaster (for some, and probably for them) that was Turbo, which took two years to make after the release of DOTF. But then again, they got back with Painkiller, which also took two years to make after the release of RID. One size does not fit all, IMO, especially if it becomes incompatible with the work ethic of a band. How is JP's work ethic now? Well...you be the judge. They're either writing new material right now, or still relaxing, or waiting for Rob to come back from his tour with his solo band so that they can begin writing, or...something else. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:28:31 PM
[Head banger] Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:09:13 PM
I don't know why HB, but the use of the word "fail" like that makes me laugh. Are you trying to talk like the trendy kids of today, HB?
J.D., I think Judas Priest did take some lessons from Saxon in regards to releasing albums every two years or so, at least in the 80s... and then they released the disaster (for some, and probably for them) that was Turbo, which took two years to make after the release of DOTF. But then again, they got back with Painkiller, which also took two years to make after the release of RID. One size does not fit all, IMO, especially if it becomes incompatible with the work ethic of a band. How is JP's work ethic now? Well...you be the judge. They're either writing new material right now, or still relaxing, or waiting for Rob to come back from his tour with his solo band so that they can begin writing, or...something else. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:28:31 PM
[spapad] Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:28:38 PM
Rob has got to rest at some time too, or should. So six months beyond the end of the Halford tour they might get in the studio. If you think about it, most bands when they reach "maturity" don't put out as many albums as they used to, IF they do at all! We all should be happy that JP is still around and delivering the goods. I do hope for a more traditional album next time and I'm sure they will give us a beauty. For the Faithful! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:27:12 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
I don't know why HB, but the use of the word "fail" like that makes me laugh. Are you trying to talk like the trendy kids of today, HB?
J.D., I think Judas Priest did take some lessons from Saxon in regards to releasing albums every two years or so, at least in the 80s... and then they released the disaster (for some, and probably for them) that was Turbo, which took two years to make after the release of DOTF. But then again, they got back with Painkiller, which also took two years to make after the release of RID. One size does not fit all, IMO, especially if it becomes incompatible with the work ethic of a band. How is JP's work ethic now? Well...you be the judge. They're either writing new material right now, or still relaxing, or waiting for Rob to come back from his tour with his solo band so that they can begin writing, or...something else. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:28:31 PM
[Vaillant 3.0] Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:27:12 PM
I don't know why HB, but the use of the word "fail" like that makes me laugh. Are you trying to talk like the trendy kids of today, HB?
J.D., I think Judas Priest did take some lessons from Saxon in regards to releasing albums every two years or so, at least in the 80s... and then they released the disaster (for some, and probably for them) that was Turbo, which took two years to make after the release of DOTF. But then again, they got back with Painkiller, which also took two years to make after the release of RID. One size does not fit all, IMO, especially if it becomes incompatible with the work ethic of a band. How is JP's work ethic now? Well...you be the judge. They're either writing new material right now, or still relaxing, or waiting for Rob to come back from his tour with his solo band so that they can begin writing, or...something else. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:28:31 PM
[Head banger] Thursday, October 28, 2010 7:37:07 PM
well, anything that gets us a new disc. I wish I liked nost, but still thats priest albums in 20 years. the solo stuff by Rob, Glen, other bands that Scott worked with are not priest. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:14:50 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
At the risk of upsetting your Beiber worship (heh), I would also prefer that they not take lessons from him either. While I don't have much of a comment on the Ripper-era albums, some of us really appreciate Nostra and hardly consider it a "useless" recording. Throw the Halford / solo albums in there and the ratio years = production goes even higher.
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
[guidogodoy] Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:14:50 PM
At the risk of upsetting your Beiber worship (heh), I would also prefer that they not take lessons from him either. While I don't have much of a comment on the Ripper-era albums, some of us really appreciate Nostra and hardly consider it a "useless" recording. Throw the Halford / solo albums in there and the ratio years = production goes even higher. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
[Head banger] Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:54:29 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
[guidogodoy] Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:54:29 PM
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
[hellrider 31038] Friday, October 15, 2010 4:19:53 PM
I THINK YOU BETTER DISPOSE THAT BAD GREEN YOU GOT MAN.THE MOST INTENSE JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY MEEETTT TTTAAALLL IS COMING MAN.YOU SHOULD BE SPENDING YOUR TIME PREPARING YOURSELF BEFORE IT WAMOS (BLAST)YOU IN THE FACE
I wasn't there and I wasn't discussing him. I was merely trying to compliment you. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Saturday, September 18, 2010 3:22:10 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
Excuse me Buderd but have you checked the Iron Maiden thread lately?? He has no problem speaking his mind there. lmao
Here's some nice guitar work by Saxon:
Budred wrote:
Open, closed, it doesn't matter. The bottom line is I notice you'll say you don't like something or it's
not for you before you say it sucks. That shows consideration to others and that's a cool trait.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Well,I don't think I'm that "open minded" as you may think,I'm just admiting that there is not right or wrong answer when it comes to music,its just fun to bash the shit ya don't like lol!!
(Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:44:24 AM)
Budred wrote:
J.D., I couldn't agree more with your first sentence. It appears that you're more open minded than you let on sometimes.
Cool!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
lol! Thanks pedro68,these are mearly just my opinions so I know that there is no right answer when we talk about songs,there can be 99% of a group of people who hate a song but since there is one person that likes that song,saying that song sucks is not true. I wish it wasn't like this lol!! Saxon are working on an album now as I've heard so it will be out in 2011 sometime for sure.
I sure think that the 2nd half of Saxons Career is much better than the first half by far but there is always old school fans that will say that Wheels Of Steel(1980),Strong Arm Of The Law(1981) and Denim & Leather(1981 the same year) are thier best 3 albums,and again theres no right or wrong answer to this but I will always say no way,Lionheart(2005) is thier best album then The Inner Sanctum(2007)and Metalhead (1999)are thier 3 best for me.
(Quoting Message by pedro68 from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:17:46 AM)
pedro68 wrote:
Good work J.D - you should review albums for a job lol .
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Edited at: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:26:36 PM
[Brian_Evans] Saturday, September 18, 2010 3:22:10 PM
Excuse me Buderd but have you checked the Iron Maiden thread lately?? He has no problem speaking his mind there. lmao
Open, closed, it doesn't matter. The bottom line is I notice you'll say you don't like something or it's
not for you before you say it sucks. That shows consideration to others and that's a cool trait.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Well,I don't think I'm that "open minded" as you may think,I'm just admiting that there is not right or wrong answer when it comes to music,its just fun to bash the shit ya don't like lol!!
(Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:44:24 AM)
Budred wrote:
J.D., I couldn't agree more with your first sentence. It appears that you're more open minded than you let on sometimes.
Cool!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
lol! Thanks pedro68,these are mearly just my opinions so I know that there is no right answer when we talk about songs,there can be 99% of a group of people who hate a song but since there is one person that likes that song,saying that song sucks is not true. I wish it wasn't like this lol!! Saxon are working on an album now as I've heard so it will be out in 2011 sometime for sure.
I sure think that the 2nd half of Saxons Career is much better than the first half by far but there is always old school fans that will say that Wheels Of Steel(1980),Strong Arm Of The Law(1981) and Denim & Leather(1981 the same year) are thier best 3 albums,and again theres no right or wrong answer to this but I will always say no way,Lionheart(2005) is thier best album then The Inner Sanctum(2007)and Metalhead (1999)are thier 3 best for me.
(Quoting Message by pedro68 from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:17:46 AM)
pedro68 wrote:
Good work J.D - you should review albums for a job lol .
Edited at: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:21:35 AM
Edited at: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:26:36 PM
[metallo] Saturday, September 18, 2010 3:04:08 PM
Great band. They was my second heavy metal concert in 1982 (the first was Motorhead in 1981), It was in Rome and we were 12.000 fans. They are, in my opinion really one of the best band of ever. Some very good albums, some less as for all the bands, but they was together with Priest and Maiden the gotha of NWOBHM and still they are.
The eagle has landed,... but taken off again and again for a never ending flight
[Budred] Wednesday, September 15, 2010 5:23:15 PM
Open, closed, it doesn't matter. The bottom line is I notice you'll say you don't like something or it's
not for you before you say it sucks. That shows consideration to others and that's a cool trait.
Well,I don't think I'm that "open minded" as you may think,I'm just admiting that there is not right or wrong answer when it comes to music,its just fun to bash the shit ya don't like lol!!
(Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:44:24 AM)
Budred wrote:
J.D., I couldn't agree more with your first sentence. It appears that you're more open minded than you let on sometimes.
Cool!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
lol! Thanks pedro68,these are mearly just my opinions so I know that there is no right answer when we talk about songs,there can be 99% of a group of people who hate a song but since there is one person that likes that song,saying that song sucks is not true. I wish it wasn't like this lol!! Saxon are working on an album now as I've heard so it will be out in 2011 sometime for sure.
I sure think that the 2nd half of Saxons Career is much better than the first half by far but there is always old school fans that will say that Wheels Of Steel(1980),Strong Arm Of The Law(1981) and Denim & Leather(1981 the same year) are thier best 3 albums,and again theres no right or wrong answer to this but I will always say no way,Lionheart(2005) is thier best album then The Inner Sanctum(2007)and Metalhead (1999)are thier 3 best for me.
(Quoting Message by pedro68 from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:17:46 AM)
pedro68 wrote:
Good work J.D - you should review albums for a job lol .
Edited at: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:21:35 AM
Edited at: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:26:36 PM
[Painkiller87] Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:04:19 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:26:11 PM
Well,I don't think I'm that "open minded" as you may think,I'm just admiting that there is not right or wrong answer when it comes to music,its just fun to bash the shit ya don't like lol!!
J.D., I couldn't agree more with your first sentence. It appears that you're more open minded than you let on sometimes.
Cool!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
lol! Thanks pedro68,these are mearly just my opinions so I know that there is no right answer when we talk about songs,there can be 99% of a group of people who hate a song but since there is one person that likes that song,saying that song sucks is not true. I wish it wasn't like this lol!! Saxon are working on an album now as I've heard so it will be out in 2011 sometime for sure.
I sure think that the 2nd half of Saxons Career is much better than the first half by far but there is always old school fans that will say that Wheels Of Steel(1980),Strong Arm Of The Law(1981) and Denim & Leather(1981 the same year) are thier best 3 albums,and again theres no right or wrong answer to this but I will always say no way,Lionheart(2005) is thier best album then The Inner Sanctum(2007)and Metalhead (1999)are thier 3 best for me.
(Quoting Message by pedro68 from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:17:46 AM)
pedro68 wrote:
Good work J.D - you should review albums for a job lol .
Edited at: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:21:35 AM
Edited at: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:26:36 PM
[Budred] Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:44:24 AM
J.D., I couldn't agree more with your first sentence. It appears that you're more open minded than you let on sometimes.
Cool!
lol! Thanks pedro68,these are mearly just my opinions so I know that there is no right answer when we talk about songs,there can be 99% of a group of people who hate a song but since there is one person that likes that song,saying that song sucks is not true. I wish it wasn't like this lol!! Saxon are working on an album now as I've heard so it will be out in 2011 sometime for sure.
I sure think that the 2nd half of Saxons Career is much better than the first half by far but there is always old school fans that will say that Wheels Of Steel(1980),Strong Arm Of The Law(1981) and Denim & Leather(1981 the same year) are thier best 3 albums,and again theres no right or wrong answer to this but I will always say no way,Lionheart(2005) is thier best album then The Inner Sanctum(2007)and Metalhead (1999)are thier 3 best for me.
(Quoting Message by pedro68 from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:17:46 AM)
pedro68 wrote:
Good work J.D - you should review albums for a job lol .
Edited at: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:21:35 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:18:27 AM
lol! Thanks pedro68,these are mearly just my opinions so I know that there is no right answer when we talk about songs,there can be 99% of a group of people who hate a song but since there is one person that likes that song,saying that song sucks is not true. I wish it wasn't like this lol!! Saxon are working on an album now as I've heard so it will be out in 2011 sometime for sure.
I sure think that the 2nd half of Saxons Career is much better than the first half by far but there is always old school fans that will say that Wheels Of Steel(1980),Strong Arm Of The Law(1981) and Denim & Leather(1981 the same year) are thier best 3 albums,and again theres no right or wrong answer to this but I will always say no way,Lionheart(2005) is thier best album then The Inner Sanctum(2007)and Metalhead (1999)are thier 3 best for me.
Good work J.D - you should review albums for a job lol .
Edited at: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:21:35 AM
[pedro68] Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:17:46 AM
Good work J.D - you should review albums for a job lol .
[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, September 13, 2010 1:13:12 PM
Yeah,they killed themselves by thier 6th studio album is what happened. The band had an ok sound and song writting from albums 1979 'Saxon" till 1983 "Power & The Glory" but thier image spanked of poor design it was terrible,however they were and still are both a heavy metal and a rock band,so beings they had "rock" mixed with traditional heavy metal thier image didn't need to be 100% heavy metal but what they were wearing at that time spanked of ugly and it was "cheesey".
But the music on the first 5 albums were good,then they put out 1984's "Crusader" album,the song "Crusader" is a classic british heavy metal song and its a jewel but the album is god awful,the Crusader song is the only worthy track on the album,and along with it came the "hair glam" image and then they did 3 more albums like this, 1985 "Innocense Is No Excuse",then 1986 "Rock The Nations" then 1988 "Destiny",so from 1984 to 1989 they were a washed up pretty boy glam band that was very "weak.
Biff said they were burned out and were cashing in on the American market at that time wich now he fully regrets doing. I remember Saxon through this back then and they sucked,sure thier first 5 studio albums were cool but the next 4 albums just killed them,not that they were as popular as Priest,Maiden or Motorhead in the first place cause they weren't,but it really killed the band. It wasn't till 1990 "Solid Ball Of Rock" and 1992 "Forever Free" albums that kick started Saxon's career again but those 2 albums only were half good,both of them had half an albums worth of lame hair band era songs on them,but it was a start. Then they put out Dogs Of War 1995 and that album has 8 out of 10 songs that are great british heavy metal/rock.
I wasn't actually around at the time so I can't be sure of this, but in the late 80s when contemporaries like Maiden and Def Lep were consolidating their fanbases, Saxon released a couple of truly terrible albums, and kind of dropped off the radar in the UK. They were actually pretty popular before that. They did tour the States because I've read an old review of them- I think it was '83, L.A, Metallica were the support.. neither band got reviewed well however. I don't know how the American public received them- J.D. probably knows.
One place they do seem to be very popular is Germany- They quite often headline festivals there.
pedro68 wrote:
Sorry J.D ,best i open my eyes when i'm posting lol.
Now back to saxon with both eyes open ha ha.
It is sad that saxon didnt get the recognition that other UK bands of the the day did.
They had the singles and the fan base ,maybe their image was'nt up to par ?
I cant remember Saxon touring the U.S in the 80's,and if they did - did they suit the U.S market
On a positive note - its just good to know their still with us and playing better than ever, cheers
I
Edited at: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:17:57 PM
[K2M] Monday, September 13, 2010 11:14:31 AM
SAXON, Crusader, Armored Saint was the opener. Crusader 1984 [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by pedro68 from Monday, September 13, 2010 4:14:50 AM)
pedro68 wrote:
Sorry J.D ,best i open my eyes when i'm posting lol.
Now back to saxon with both eyes open ha ha.
It is sad that saxon didnt get the recognition that other UK bands of the the day did.
They had the singles and the fan base ,maybe their image was'nt up to par ?
I cant remember Saxon touring the U.S in the 80's,and if they did - did they suit the U.S market
On a positive note - its just good to know their still with us and playing better than ever, cheers
I
[kiamat] Monday, September 13, 2010 6:30:16 AM
I wasn't actually around at the time so I can't be sure of this, but in the late 80s when contemporaries like Maiden and Def Lep were consolidating their fanbases, Saxon released a couple of truly terrible albums, and kind of dropped off the radar in the UK. They were actually pretty popular before that. They did tour the States because I've read an old review of them- I think it was '83, L.A, Metallica were the support.. neither band got reviewed well however. I don't know how the American public received them- J.D. probably knows.
One place they do seem to be very popular is Germany- They quite often headline festivals there.
Sorry J.D ,best i open my eyes when i'm posting lol.
Now back to saxon with both eyes open ha ha.
It is sad that saxon didnt get the recognition that other UK bands of the the day did.
They had the singles and the fan base ,maybe their image was'nt up to par ?
I cant remember Saxon touring the U.S in the 80's,and if they did - did they suit the U.S market
On a positive note - its just good to know their still with us and playing better than ever, cheers
I
[pedro68] Monday, September 13, 2010 4:14:50 AM
Sorry J.D ,best i open my eyes when i'm posting lol.
Now back to saxon with both eyes open ha ha.
It is sad that saxon didnt get the recognition that other UK bands of the the day did.
They had the singles and the fan base ,maybe their image was'nt up to par ?
I cant remember Saxon touring the U.S in the 80's,and if they did - did they suit the U.S market
On a positive note - its just good to know their still with us and playing better than ever, cheers
I
[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:20:13 PM
I'm not "Painkiller" pedro68 (lol). And yes,on the 1988 Destiny album I forgot,they covered a Christopher Cross track "Ride Like The Wind" and its utterly terrible and "embarrassing". Even Biff regrets doing it,and the Destiny album too haha!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by pedro68 from Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:27:40 AM)
pedro68 wrote:
Thanks Painkiller I didnt know they coverd that song thats interesting.I seem to recall maybe they did a song called Ride like the wind by Christopher Cross.
Not sure if it made its way on to a album,but i know they played it live and it rocked, cheers.
[pedro68] Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:27:40 AM
Thanks Painkiller I didnt know they coverd that song thats interesting.I seem to recall maybe they did a song called Ride like the wind by Christopher Cross.
Not sure if it made its way on to a album,but i know they played it live and it rocked, cheers.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:06:27 PM
LOL jimmy!!! Yeah the song isn't anything to write home about to begin with ya know,but yeah Saxon did a cover song of it "Set Me Free" in 1984 from the crappy "Crusader" album,so I burned it onto a disc and got rid of the CD because that was the only other worthy track on the album besides the song "Crusader" and then years later when I met my girlfriend she saw that Saxon covered it,so she busts out a copy of the same track on Vince Neil's solo album and it totally killed it for me,not that I played that song very much anyway but it wasn't bad and then boom,she laughed her ass off and I've not listened to it since haha!! Fuckin squeaky Vince jimmy I'll tell ya lol! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, September 11, 2010 6:26:08 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Squeaky Vince strikes again.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I think your thinking of the "Set Me Free" track off the Crusader LP(terrible album),a band called "Sweet" originally did this song. It didn't used to bother me until I met my girlfriend 3 and a half years ago when she saw that Saxon covered this song,she pulled out a 1996(I think?)version of the song done by "Vince Neil's band" YUK!! HAHAHA!!!! Now,I can't listen to the track without her reminding me of Vince singing it hahaha!!!!
pedro68 wrote:
Thanks Painkiller ,Frozen Rainbow still rocks.That brought back some memories.
I also remember they did a cover of a top 40 song early days and their version was popular with their fans.
can you remember what song it was ? cheers
[jimmyjames] Saturday, September 11, 2010 6:26:08 PM
Squeaky Vince strikes again. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, September 11, 2010 6:18:10 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I think your thinking of the "Set Me Free" track off the Crusader LP(terrible album),a band called "Sweet" originally did this song. It didn't used to bother me until I met my girlfriend 3 and a half years ago when she saw that Saxon covered this song,she pulled out a 1996(I think?)version of the song done by "Vince Neil's band" YUK!! HAHAHA!!!! Now,I can't listen to the track without her reminding me of Vince singing it hahaha!!!!
pedro68 wrote:
Thanks Painkiller ,Frozen Rainbow still rocks.That brought back some memories.
I also remember they did a cover of a top 40 song early days and their version was popular with their fans.
can you remember what song it was ? cheers
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, September 11, 2010 6:18:10 PM
I think your thinking of the "Set Me Free" track off the Crusader LP(terrible album),a band called "Sweet" originally did this song. It didn't used to bother me until I met my girlfriend 3 and a half years ago when she saw that Saxon covered this song,she pulled out a 1996(I think?)version of the song done by "Vince Neil's band" YUK!! HAHAHA!!!! Now,I can't listen to the track without her reminding me of Vince singing it hahaha!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by pedro68 from Saturday, September 11, 2010 6:05:11 AM)
pedro68 wrote:
Thanks Painkiller ,Frozen Rainbow still rocks.That brought back some memories.
I also remember they did a cover of a top 40 song early days and their version was popular with their fans.
can you remember what song it was ? cheers
[pedro68] Saturday, September 11, 2010 6:05:11 AM
Thanks Painkiller ,Frozen Rainbow still rocks.That brought back some memories.
I also remember they did a cover of a top 40 song early days and their version was popular with their fans.
can you remember what song it was ? cheers
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, September 10, 2010 3:29:39 PM
Oh yeah man,Searching For Atlantis what a killer song this is.The entire album of Lionheart is totally magical and majestic,its a kick ass British Heavy Metal/rock album traditional all the way.This album is "better" than Powerslave by Iron Maiden and I'd go as far as saying that its up there with albums like Screaming For Vengeance,Defenders Of The Faith,Painkiller,The Number Of The Beast,Mob Rules,ect... its an instant classic,every metalhead who likes Saxon should have this LP in thier collection,a definate "must have". [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Painkiller87 from Friday, September 10, 2010 3:12:42 PM)
Painkiller87 wrote:
[Painkiller87] Friday, September 10, 2010 3:12:42 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, September 10, 2010 3:03:02 PM
Great track Painkiller87,yeah Saxon's debut album may not be as good as modern day Saxon but out of 8 songs on the album I like 6:
Rainbow Theme
Frozen Rainbow
Judgement Day
Stallions Of The Highway
Backs To The Wall
Militia Guard
I never really cared for "Big Teaser" or "Still Fit To Boggie" but yes,a great debut album from the British legends. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Painkiller87 from Friday, September 10, 2010 8:07:20 AM)
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yes that's off their first album "Saxon". A great opener for their career and album.
pedro68 wrote:
Oh yes Saxon would grace my turn table in the 80's, and then out came the guitar to copy some riffs.
strong arm of the law,strangers in the night,denim and leather all big songs in their day.
Did they have a song called Frozen rainbow ?
[Painkiller87] Friday, September 10, 2010 8:07:20 AM
Yes that's off their first album "Saxon". A great opener for their career and album. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by pedro68 from Friday, September 10, 2010 2:31:40 AM)
pedro68 wrote:
Oh yes Saxon would grace my turn table in the 80's, and then out came the guitar to copy some riffs.
strong arm of the law,strangers in the night,denim and leather all big songs in their day.
Did they have a song called Frozen rainbow ?
[pedro68] Friday, September 10, 2010 2:31:40 AM
Oh yes Saxon would grace my turn table in the 80's, and then out came the guitar to copy some riffs.
strong arm of the law,strangers in the night,denim and leather all big songs in their day.
Did they have a song called Frozen rainbow ?
[kiamat] Friday, September 10, 2010 1:19:37 AM
Is the new album confirmed then?! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:21:19 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Great Classics Painkiller87!!! Saxon has 12 studio albums that are totally worthy classic british heavy metal/rock albums:
Saxon
Wheels Of Steel
Strong Arm Of The Law
Denim & Leather
Power & The Glory
Dogs Of War
Unleash The Beast
Metalhead
Killing Ground
Lionheart
The Inner Sanctum
Into The Labyrinth
And soon to add a 13th classic traditional british heavy metal/rock studio album in 2011 !!!!
Painkiller87 wrote:
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:21:19 PM
Great Classics Painkiller87!!! Saxon has 12 studio albums that are totally worthy classic british heavy metal/rock albums:
Saxon
Wheels Of Steel
Strong Arm Of The Law
Denim & Leather
Power & The Glory
Dogs Of War
Unleash The Beast
Metalhead
Killing Ground
Lionheart
The Inner Sanctum
Into The Labyrinth
And soon to add a 13th classic traditional british heavy metal/rock studio album in 2011 !!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Painkiller87 from Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:04:20 PM)
Painkiller87 wrote:
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:16:29 PM
Saxon - Warrior -Power & The Glory LP 1983
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[Painkiller87] Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:04:20 PM
[Painkiller87] Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:03:28 PM
[Painkiller87] Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:01:47 PM
[Brian_Evans] Thursday, September 09, 2010 4:36:08 PM
[Painkiller87] Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:34:56 PM
[Painkiller87] Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:14:04 AM
Stallions of the Highway. Great song off their first LP.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, September 04, 2010 12:18:03 PM
Let Me Feel Your Power - 2007's The Inner Sanctum LP - This song alone crushes anything Iron Maiden has done in the last 26 years hands down! HA! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Saturday, September 04, 2010 8:40:36 AM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
Thats a total false statement because "Need For Speed" does not blow away anything Maiden has done since Powerslave. Where do you come up with this stuff man? The excellent Wickerman thrashes that pile of junk..
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, September 04, 2010 1:29:01 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon - Need For Speed - 2007 The Inner Sanctum. This album is Saxon's 2nd best LP next to Lionheart,The Inner Sanctum blows away anything Iron Maiden has done since Powerslave.
Edited at: Saturday, September 04, 2010 8:41:07 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, September 04, 2010 12:14:18 PM
HA! Edited at: Saturday, September 04, 2010 12:16:26 PM
[Brian_Evans] Saturday, September 04, 2010 8:40:36 AM
Thats a total false statement because "Need For Speed" does not blow away anything Maiden has done since Powerslave. Where do you come up with this stuff man? The excellent Wickerman thrashes that pile of junk..
Saxon - Need For Speed - 2007 The Inner Sanctum. This album is Saxon's 2nd best LP next to Lionheart,The Inner Sanctum blows away anything Iron Maiden has done since Powerslave.
Edited at: Saturday, September 04, 2010 8:41:07 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, September 04, 2010 1:29:01 AM
Saxon - Need For Speed - 2007 The Inner Sanctum. This album is Saxon's 2nd best LP next to Lionheart,The Inner Sanctum blows away anything Iron Maiden has done since Powerslave.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, September 04, 2010 1:21:53 AM
Saxon kicks Iron Maiden's ass so far up between thier shoulders!! lol!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, September 04, 2010 1:21:07 AM
Oh I see,couldn't stand to have me on your "ignore" list eh? lol! I told you so,you can't stand the fact of not being able to read my posts haha! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Friday, September 03, 2010 6:40:13 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
Yeah right ...good thing you posted that or the thread would have died. They would be a good opening act for Maiden ...i'll give them credit for that. lmao
El Dorado blows that away big time ...check this vid out that contains real metal ...and don't forget to check out Guidogodoy and Spapad at the beginning...lol
oh yeah ...UP THE IRONS!!
Edited at: Friday, September 03, 2010 6:41:23 PM
[Brian_Evans] Friday, September 03, 2010 8:44:05 PM
[Brian_Evans] Friday, September 03, 2010 6:40:13 PM
Yeah right ...good thing you posted that or the thread would have died. They would be a good opening act for Maiden ...i'll give them credit for that. lmao
El Dorado blows that away big time ...check this vid out that contains real metal ...and don't forget to check out Guidogodoy and Spapad at the beginning...lol
oh yeah ...UP THE IRONS!!
Edited at: Friday, September 03, 2010 6:41:23 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, September 03, 2010 1:40:22 PM
SAXON - Valley Of The Kings - 2009 off the Into The Labyrinth album. This song kicks ass and is far better than anything a band like Iron Maiden has recorded in the last 26 years.
Edited at: Friday, September 03, 2010 1:41:49 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, July 10, 2010 2:04:30 AM
Yeah I think the 2004 Lionheart album is Saxon's best album,every song on this masterpiece is excellent. and should be in every metalhead's collection that likes Saxon,it easily ranks up next to albums like British Steel,Screaming For Vengeance,Painkiller, Iron Maiden's first 5 studio albums,Holy Diver,The Mob Rules,Diary Of A Madman and ect......
[Painkiller87] Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:16:58 AM
I really like their cover of a classic song of one of my mom's favorite artists. I have the original King Crimson albums on vinyl somewhere and also on CD.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, June 21, 2010 1:25:23 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, June 20, 2010 8:19:36 PM
Well you see Evans,the difference between you and me is that I'm a well respected veteran member here while your a worthless "inferior to J.D." idiot that can't function here without my presence,people don't back me up because of my good looks,they respond simply because of your "idiocy". I'll always be "up here"....and you'll always be "down there",I'm always one step ahead of you and always will be undefeated.There is nothing that you can do to be accepted in this forum. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Sunday, June 20, 2010 6:13:41 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
Well you see Diamond...thats the difference between you and me. I don't need someone to back be up all the time. I do understand why you do though. Ha!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
HAHA! Yes spapad,I do know "who". But to keep on the same level for shits and giggles...Brian_Evans feels inferior to those who are better than him,those who are smarter than him and those especially who are more liked by others in this forum and in this case there is no exception HA! Its always a pleasure to post over his incredibly unintelligent words and to sit back and watch nobody back him up because the lack of friends he has here. Strike one more victory up for J.D. The Commander!!!!!!!!!!
spapad wrote:
Nice J.D..............Too bad the trolls come back with you just showing up a couple days. Somethings tells me Someone never got over it. lol You know who. LMAO! What a fricken joke this guy is!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I prefer Metalhead over Killing Ground but Killing Ground is definately a great album,only like 2 songs that are under-par,the rest of the album is great.
(Quoting Message by Painkiller87 from Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:11:31 AM)
Edited at: Sunday, June 20, 2010 2:12:46 PM
[Brian_Evans] Sunday, June 20, 2010 6:13:41 PM
Well you see Diamond...thats the difference between you and me. I don't need someone to back be up all the time. I do understand why you do though. Ha! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, June 20, 2010 5:25:44 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
HAHA! Yes spapad,I do know "who". But to keep on the same level for shits and giggles...Brian_Evans feels inferior to those who are better than him,those who are smarter than him and those especially who are more liked by others in this forum and in this case there is no exception HA! Its always a pleasure to post over his incredibly unintelligent words and to sit back and watch nobody back him up because the lack of friends he has here. Strike one more victory up for J.D. The Commander!!!!!!!!!!
spapad wrote:
Nice J.D..............Too bad the trolls come back with you just showing up a couple days. Somethings tells me Someone never got over it. lol You know who. LMAO! What a fricken joke this guy is!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I prefer Metalhead over Killing Ground but Killing Ground is definately a great album,only like 2 songs that are under-par,the rest of the album is great.
(Quoting Message by Painkiller87 from Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:11:31 AM)
Edited at: Sunday, June 20, 2010 2:12:46 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, June 20, 2010 5:25:44 PM
HAHA! Yes spapad,I do know "who". But to keep on the same level for shits and giggles...Brian_Evans feels inferior to those who are better than him,those who are smarter than him and those especially who are more liked by others in this forum and in this case there is no exception HA! Its always a pleasure to post over his incredibly unintelligent words and to sit back and watch nobody back him up because the lack of friends he has here. Strike one more victory up for J.D. The Commander!!!!!!!!!!
Nice J.D..............Too bad the trolls come back with you just showing up a couple days. Somethings tells me Someone never got over it. lol You know who. LMAO! What a fricken joke this guy is!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I prefer Metalhead over Killing Ground but Killing Ground is definately a great album,only like 2 songs that are under-par,the rest of the album is great.
(Quoting Message by Painkiller87 from Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:11:31 AM)
Edited at: Sunday, June 20, 2010 2:12:46 PM
[spapad] Sunday, June 20, 2010 4:31:31 PM
Nice J.D..............Too bad the trolls come back with you just showing up a couple days. Somethings tells me Someone never got over it. lol You know who. LMAO! What a fricken joke this guy is! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, June 20, 2010 2:12:14 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I prefer Metalhead over Killing Ground but Killing Ground is definately a great album,only like 2 songs that are under-par,the rest of the album is great.
(Quoting Message by Painkiller87 from Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:11:31 AM)
I prefer Metalhead over Killing Ground but Killing Ground is definately a great album,only like 2 songs that are under-par,the rest of the album is great.
(Quoting Message by Painkiller87 from Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:11:31 AM)
Edited at: Sunday, June 20, 2010 2:12:46 PM
[Brian_Evans] Sunday, June 20, 2010 4:17:04 PM
LMAO!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, June 20, 2010 2:12:14 PM
I prefer Metalhead over Killing Ground but Killing Ground is definately a great album,only like 2 songs that are under-par,the rest of the album is great.
[Painkiller87] Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:11:31 AM
That's a good one for a tribute. Speaking of which I actually got Metalhead and Killing Ground a couple of days ago and I love them, especially Killing Ground. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:43:32 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon - Sea Of Life Metalhead album 1999 (not sure why they are showing the Lionheart album cover)
Heres a Tribute to Ronnie James Dio Edited at: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:43:44 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:43:32 PM
Saxon - Sea Of Life Metalhead album 1999 (not sure why they are showing the Lionheart album cover)
Heres a Tribute to Ronnie James Dio Edited at: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:43:44 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, May 15, 2010 11:38:51 AM
Saxon Motorcycle Man -Wacken 2001
Bang your fuckin heads,this kicks the living shit out of anything Maiden has done in 26 years!!!!!!
Comes off pretty well live
I love this song, one of their best.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Atila The Hun
Edited at: Saturday, May 15, 2010 11:39:21 AM
[kiamat] Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:11:56 PM
Comes off pretty well live
I love this song, one of their best. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, May 09, 2010 12:05:05 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Atila The Hun
[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, May 09, 2010 12:05:05 PM
Atila The Hun
[Budred] Sunday, May 02, 2010 5:24:50 AM
You have to understand, I know nothing about this shit. Also my financial
situation doesn't allow me to buy anything I want. As bad as you make it sound,
my discs are turning out pretty good. I bought an MP3 version of "Feel the Same"
by Riot. I recently recorded/converted the whole LP. My version has a bassier
and louder sound than the MP3. Also when I play Cd's that were originally released
on vinyl they do not sound as good as the vinyl I'm putting to disc. I would love to
do what you're telling me but my funds limit me. I appreciate all you tell me and feel
free to rip what I'm doing. I'm not taking it as a personal attack. I'm using it as a way
to learn. Take care man.
Eech. Sorry to say that I know it. We bought one Ion for my lab and hated it right away. Cheap price, yes, but cheap quality as well. It has since been "retired."
I shouldn't say any more. If you are happy with it, great. I bought a new booster for my old turntable, ran it through my stereo and to my computer. My rips are all but flawless. Know that you are limited by software. Ion sucks. You can do a firmware hack but it is difficult. Keep ripping your MP3s in the highest bitrate possible is my best suggestion. (Quoting Message by Budred from Saturday, May 01, 2010 9:37:45 PM)
Budred wrote:
Ion
guidogodoy wrote:
You didn't name the make of your USB turntable but there aren't that many. 256 or 512k is most likely the ripping rate. It is really quite easy to get a "true" rip instead of an MP3. Look at Halford's site. He releases his free tracks in different bitrates. Two different MP3 bitrates and lossless (flac). To get your USB turntable (irrespective of the make) is usually quite easy and free. Look at Audible and here ==>flac.sourceforge.net/ The term "digital" is quite subjective. To put it simply, there is not one single format. On second look, I see that Halford also releases 126kbs. Inferior quality to be sure. Listen to it on a quality 6.1 quality system and you'll certainly hear it.
Budred wrote:
I understand that analog is better than digital. More bits of music per second equals a fuller,
better sound. It's the transfer sounding better than disc I don't get. I figured once that was done
the quality would degrade to digital. Right now recording to MP3 is all I can do. I have a USB turntable
that has EZ Vinyl Converter program built in. I know nothing about flac or even what that is. I
probably come off as stupid but really, it's just a lack of knowledge. I'm still in my first year with
computers and quite honestly, I don't do much on it. Most of my computer time is spent here.
I do like to learn though and will try to figure out what you're telling me. I knew you would have an answer,
you are quite knowledgeable. Even though MP3 may not be the way to go I am amazed my discs are
sounding as good as they do. Take care man.
All depends on the turntable and especially the cartridge. Like I said, the first answer to the link above had it right.
Edited at: Saturday, May 01, 2010 9:25:25 PM
Edited at: Saturday, May 01, 2010 10:07:48 PM
[guidogodoy] Saturday, May 01, 2010 9:54:52 PM
Eech. Sorry to say that I know it. We bought one Ion for my lab and hated it right away. Cheap price, yes, but cheap quality as well. It has since been "retired."
I shouldn't say any more. If you are happy with it, great. I bought a new booster for my old turntable, ran it through my stereo and to my computer. My rips are all but flawless. Know that you are limited by software. Ion sucks. You can do a firmware hack but it is difficult. Keep ripping your MP3s in the highest bitrate possible is my best suggestion. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Saturday, May 01, 2010 9:37:45 PM)
Budred wrote:
Ion
guidogodoy wrote:
You didn't name the make of your USB turntable but there aren't that many. 256 or 512k is most likely the ripping rate. It is really quite easy to get a "true" rip instead of an MP3. Look at Halford's site. He releases his free tracks in different bitrates. Two different MP3 bitrates and lossless (flac). To get your USB turntable (irrespective of the make) is usually quite easy and free. Look at Audible and here ==>flac.sourceforge.net/ The term "digital" is quite subjective. To put it simply, there is not one single format. On second look, I see that Halford also releases 126kbs. Inferior quality to be sure. Listen to it on a quality 6.1 quality system and you'll certainly hear it.
Budred wrote:
I understand that analog is better than digital. More bits of music per second equals a fuller,
better sound. It's the transfer sounding better than disc I don't get. I figured once that was done
the quality would degrade to digital. Right now recording to MP3 is all I can do. I have a USB turntable
that has EZ Vinyl Converter program built in. I know nothing about flac or even what that is. I
probably come off as stupid but really, it's just a lack of knowledge. I'm still in my first year with
computers and quite honestly, I don't do much on it. Most of my computer time is spent here.
I do like to learn though and will try to figure out what you're telling me. I knew you would have an answer,
you are quite knowledgeable. Even though MP3 may not be the way to go I am amazed my discs are
sounding as good as they do. Take care man.
You didn't name the make of your USB turntable but there aren't that many. 256 or 512k is most likely the ripping rate. It is really quite easy to get a "true" rip instead of an MP3. Look at Halford's site. He releases his free tracks in different bitrates. Two different MP3 bitrates and lossless (flac). To get your USB turntable (irrespective of the make) is usually quite easy and free. Look at Audible and here ==>flac.sourceforge.net/ The term "digital" is quite subjective. To put it simply, there is not one single format. On second look, I see that Halford also releases 126kbs. Inferior quality to be sure. Listen to it on a quality 6.1 quality system and you'll certainly hear it.
Budred wrote:
I understand that analog is better than digital. More bits of music per second equals a fuller,
better sound. It's the transfer sounding better than disc I don't get. I figured once that was done
the quality would degrade to digital. Right now recording to MP3 is all I can do. I have a USB turntable
that has EZ Vinyl Converter program built in. I know nothing about flac or even what that is. I
probably come off as stupid but really, it's just a lack of knowledge. I'm still in my first year with
computers and quite honestly, I don't do much on it. Most of my computer time is spent here.
I do like to learn though and will try to figure out what you're telling me. I knew you would have an answer,
you are quite knowledgeable. Even though MP3 may not be the way to go I am amazed my discs are
sounding as good as they do. Take care man.
All depends on the turntable and especially the cartridge. Like I said, the first answer to the link above had it right.
Edited at: Saturday, May 01, 2010 9:25:25 PM
[guidogodoy] Saturday, May 01, 2010 9:16:20 PM
Look at the top of this Halford page. Look at the bitrates. Flac and WMA both are considered "lossless" at least in the way they release it. WMA DOES have a lossy format. www.halfordmusic.com/content/static/index.html
Edited at: Saturday, May 01, 2010 9:17:52 PM
[guidogodoy] Saturday, May 01, 2010 9:11:09 PM
You didn't name the make of your USB turntable but there aren't that many. 256 or 512k is most likely the ripping rate. It is really quite easy to get a "true" rip instead of an MP3. Look at Halford's site. He releases his free tracks in different bitrates. Two different MP3 bitrates and lossless (flac). To get your USB turntable (irrespective of the make) is usually quite easy and free. Look at Audible and here ==>flac.sourceforge.net/ The term "digital" is quite subjective. To put it simply, there is not one single format. On second look, I see that Halford also releases 126kbs. Inferior quality to be sure. Listen to it on a quality 6.1 quality system and you'll certainly hear it.
Budred wrote:
I understand that analog is better than digital. More bits of music per second equals a fuller,
better sound. It's the transfer sounding better than disc I don't get. I figured once that was done
the quality would degrade to digital. Right now recording to MP3 is all I can do. I have a USB turntable
that has EZ Vinyl Converter program built in. I know nothing about flac or even what that is. I
probably come off as stupid but really, it's just a lack of knowledge. I'm still in my first year with
computers and quite honestly, I don't do much on it. Most of my computer time is spent here.
I do like to learn though and will try to figure out what you're telling me. I knew you would have an answer,
you are quite knowledgeable. Even though MP3 may not be the way to go I am amazed my discs are
sounding as good as they do. Take care man.
All depends on the turntable and especially the cartridge. Like I said, the first answer to the link above had it right.
Edited at: Saturday, May 01, 2010 9:25:25 PM
[Budred] Saturday, May 01, 2010 8:44:49 PM
I understand that analog is better than digital. More bits of music per second equals a fuller,
better sound. It's the transfer sounding better than disc I don't get. I figured once that was done
the quality would degrade to digital. Right now recording to MP3 is all I can do. I have a USB turntable
that has EZ Vinyl Converter program built in. I know nothing about flac or even what that is. I
probably come off as stupid but really, it's just a lack of knowledge. I'm still in my first year with
computers and quite honestly, I don't do much on it. Most of my computer time is spent here.
I do like to learn though and will try to figure out what you're telling me. I knew you would have an answer,
you are quite knowledgeable. Even though MP3 may not be the way to go I am amazed my discs are
sounding as good as they do. Take care man. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:27:30 PM)
All depends on the turntable and especially the cartridge. Like I said, the first answer to the link above had it right.
[guidogodoy] Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:21:14 PM
LPs have better depth. The range is better (highs and lows), IMO. I run a 5.1 on my computer and a 6.1 surround in my main room. I'd only suggest that you NOT rip to MP3. It is a "lossy format." Like zipping a file, it makes adjustments to the highs / lows and even midrange to keep the filesize small. Rip to flac. Most trading sites don't even accept MP3s as they are flawed. Flac is an exact replica. A google search can teach you how to do it. All you need is the right codex. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:05:55 PM)
Budred wrote:
I still have a couple of Venom LP"s. Welcome to Hell and At War With Satan.
I plan on converting them to MP3 and then to disc this weekend. I have about
80 albums I want to do this to. I did 15 already and they sound really good. I
think they sound better than regular cd's. I did Saxon's Strong Arm of the law
a few weeks back. The cool thing about doing this is that I'm hearing albums I
haven't heard in over twenty years. I have about 200 albums but only about 90
that I haven't already bought on disc. The cd's I'm making sound better than
manufactured cd's of the same album. When I finish doing the ones I don't have
on disc i'm thinking of doing my Priest albums. I knew LP"s sounded better than
disc but I didn't know converting them would sound better also. Can anyone
explain this? ....Guido? (knower of all)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Well they are alright Budred,I don't have anything negative to say about them,but I really don't get into too many bands that play heavy metal/thrash,only a hand full throughout the years but they are close to some of the bands that I like,Hirax,Deathrow,Hallow's Eve,Razor but these bands I only like certain albums from,not every album ect.... Good example though.
My favorite styles of music are traditional heavy metal and "OLD" black metal from 1980 when Venom started it up to the year 1995 but I'll give it untill the year 2000 but after that I don't like any bands that emerged onto the scene.At this point its just ridiculous to form a "black metal band",fans of this once elite genre who enjoy it should NOT form a black metal band,they should let the old school bands do thier thing. I really don't like very much "death metal" at all even though I have a fun project with a friend for the last 10 years that is early 90's death metal but its in the vien of old Morbid Angel and old Deicide. Those 2 bands are the best death metal bands but only thier early work,thier later stuff is ridiculous and boring,sold out and washed up.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Friday, April 30, 2010 7:27:23 AM)
Budred wrote:
J.D., I don't have a link but go to Lastfm and key in Fog of War616 and
listen to the track Fog of War. It's not that I think you'll love it but it reminds
me of the kind of music you're always talking about. It's a little thrashy, with
a European style of guitar playing and decent vocals. Check it out and let
me know what you think. I don't think you have to sign up to listen to music
there. Check out my page. Check out my journal of "Bands I've seen live".
Some will make you puke but I think you'll notice an interesting mix of music.
Realize that alot of these bands were openers so it's not like I went there to see them.
Also a couple of the shows I went because my wife wanted to. She was a dance teacher
for 15 years so don't hate too much when you read them. Peace!
