Yes I agree,Maiden has NOT released an album as good as AOR since 1984's Powerslave with Retribution being the better album of course but they haven't come close to AOR. I reckon this next LP will be just as good if not better than Retribution putting an end to anybody's doubts about the band's capability to still crank out classic material.
They have heard it all the past 2 years with Nostradamus,they have heard the good with the bad and I'm sure they have read many times that people are saying the band lost it including me when I heard Nostradamus,I'm not exception but with a little help from Hellrider's optomistic words I've come around full circle and will bet money that this next album will kick some ass!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, April 16, 2010 3:04:58 PM)
Becks wrote:
Yeah JD, it surprises me even when some people say oh I don't really listen to AOR much, or they don't know it at all. If people gave it a listen they'd see how awesome it is! Loch Ness is boring, but Demonizer, Judas Rising, Hellrider, among others, are awesome as tracks. No way can AOR be compared to Brave New World or any other snooze worthy Maiden album of recent years. For one thing, the songs on AOR aren't 10 years long! LOL!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yeah the album title is "Scream". The sound of this song sucks the big one. Head banger...Revolution definately is not the best track on AOR I agree but somehow I knew that the rest of AOR would be good before I heard it and it was except for the boring Lockness but I can't see the rest of Ozzy's album suddenly turning out like Blizzard Of Oz or Diary Of A Madman.
On that note,Angel Of Retribution may not be Judas Priest's best LP but its not thier worst either,it utterly amazes me how many people not just on this forum but outside this forum who do not like Retribution,they all compare it with recent boring Iron Maiden albums and to me thats unbelievable.
I swear if Angel Of Retribution were released in 1986 instead of Turbo,90% of these people who say they don't like it would be hailing it as a classic right along side of Defenders Of The Faith. I still say that Judas Rising,Demonizer and Hellrider are just as good as ANY JP track ever,name any 3 songs by JP and those 3 are just as good to me anyway. It doesn't matter though,Priest could release an album better than Painkiller and since its not released in the 80's 90% of people would hate it,thier loss. I really think that Angel Of Retribution is an underrated album,still say its the band's 5th best studio album of all time I even like it better than Stained Class,Hell Bent For Leather and Defenders Of The Faith but thats my opionion.
jimmyjames wrote:
I know, it's pretty stupid. However the fact that they released it as a single means it's probably the best song on the album. If that's the case then this album is going to be an incredible achievement. I never would have believed that Ozzy could make an album worse than Black Rain, but if this song is anything to go by he may just have surpassed himself. He should have kept the title Soul Sucka, that would have been the icing on the shit flavoured cake.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Oh my fuckin god that is fuckin "TERRIBLE" dude,fuckin A this retarded idiot doesn't learn when to stop.That song sucks like Ozzy sucks.I HATE Ozzy Ozbourne.
jimmyjames wrote:
Here's Ozzys' new song Let Me Hear You Scream. Let the bashing begin.
[Becks] Friday, April 16, 2010 3:04:58 PM
Yeah JD, it surprises me even when some people say oh I don't really listen to AOR much, or they don't know it at all. If people gave it a listen they'd see how awesome it is! Loch Ness is boring, but Demonizer, Judas Rising, Hellrider, among others, are awesome as tracks. No way can AOR be compared to Brave New World or any other snooze worthy Maiden album of recent years. For one thing, the songs on AOR aren't 10 years long! LOL! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, April 16, 2010 2:50:44 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yeah the album title is "Scream". The sound of this song sucks the big one. Head banger...Revolution definately is not the best track on AOR I agree but somehow I knew that the rest of AOR would be good before I heard it and it was except for the boring Lockness but I can't see the rest of Ozzy's album suddenly turning out like Blizzard Of Oz or Diary Of A Madman.
On that note,Angel Of Retribution may not be Judas Priest's best LP but its not thier worst either,it utterly amazes me how many people not just on this forum but outside this forum who do not like Retribution,they all compare it with recent boring Iron Maiden albums and to me thats unbelievable.
I swear if Angel Of Retribution were released in 1986 instead of Turbo,90% of these people who say they don't like it would be hailing it as a classic right along side of Defenders Of The Faith. I still say that Judas Rising,Demonizer and Hellrider are just as good as ANY JP track ever,name any 3 songs by JP and those 3 are just as good to me anyway. It doesn't matter though,Priest could release an album better than Painkiller and since its not released in the 80's 90% of people would hate it,thier loss. I really think that Angel Of Retribution is an underrated album,still say its the band's 5th best studio album of all time I even like it better than Stained Class,Hell Bent For Leather and Defenders Of The Faith but thats my opionion.
jimmyjames wrote:
I know, it's pretty stupid. However the fact that they released it as a single means it's probably the best song on the album. If that's the case then this album is going to be an incredible achievement. I never would have believed that Ozzy could make an album worse than Black Rain, but if this song is anything to go by he may just have surpassed himself. He should have kept the title Soul Sucka, that would have been the icing on the shit flavoured cake.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Oh my fuckin god that is fuckin "TERRIBLE" dude,fuckin A this retarded idiot doesn't learn when to stop.That song sucks like Ozzy sucks.I HATE Ozzy Ozbourne.
jimmyjames wrote:
Here's Ozzys' new song Let Me Hear You Scream. Let the bashing begin.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 16, 2010 3:04:02 PM
Wow Head Banger that is a huge statement about Angel Of Retribution. The 4 albums I would say that top it are Sad Wings Of Destiny,British Steel,Screaming For Vengeance and Painkiller and then I'd put AOR 5th place but AOR is my favorite JP album because of how new it is but yeah many people do not consider it a great Judas Priest LP,it just blows me away...."Wheels Of Fire" is a simple song but it just screams of old-school Judas Priest,a very underrated song as well as Deal With The Devil....also Eulogy is utterly amazing even for a short track,it is classic. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Friday, April 16, 2010 2:55:01 PM)
Head banger wrote:
on the album revolution fits beter. I havent heard this ozzy POS, since I cant play it at work, but I am sure its all no good. I would put AOR as the best album, even with Lochness on it. there are a few that are all close to the best, but Like you I cant fathom why anyone would not like it. then again I hate Nost, so who knows.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yeah the album title is "Scream". The sound of this song sucks the big one. Head banger...Revolution definately is not the best track on AOR I agree but somehow I knew that the rest of AOR would be good before I heard it and it was except for the boring Lockness but I can't see the rest of Ozzy's album suddenly turning out like Blizzard Of Oz or Diary Of A Madman.
On that note,Angel Of Retribution may not be Judas Priest's best LP but its not thier worst either,it utterly amazes me how many people not just on this forum but outside this forum who do not like Retribution,they all compare it with recent boring Iron Maiden albums and to me thats unbelievable.
I swear if Angel Of Retribution were released in 1986 instead of Turbo,90% of these people who say they don't like it would be hailing it as a classic right along side of Defenders Of The Faith. I still say that Judas Rising,Demonizer and Hellrider are just as good as ANY JP track ever,name any 3 songs by JP and those 3 are just as good to me anyway. It doesn't matter though,Priest could release an album better than Painkiller and since its not released in the 80's 90% of people would hate it,thier loss. I really think that Angel Of Retribution is an underrated album,still say its the band's 5th best studio album of all time I even like it better than Stained Class,Hell Bent For Leather and Defenders Of The Faith but thats my opionion.
jimmyjames wrote:
I know, it's pretty stupid. However the fact that they released it as a single means it's probably the best song on the album. If that's the case then this album is going to be an incredible achievement. I never would have believed that Ozzy could make an album worse than Black Rain, but if this song is anything to go by he may just have surpassed himself. He should have kept the title Soul Sucka, that would have been the icing on the shit flavoured cake.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Oh my fuckin god that is fuckin "TERRIBLE" dude,fuckin A this retarded idiot doesn't learn when to stop.That song sucks like Ozzy sucks.I HATE Ozzy Ozbourne.
jimmyjames wrote:
Here's Ozzys' new song Let Me Hear You Scream. Let the bashing begin.
Edited at: Friday, April 16, 2010 3:05:26 PM
[Head banger] Friday, April 16, 2010 2:55:01 PM
on the album revolution fits beter. I havent heard this ozzy POS, since I cant play it at work, but I am sure its all no good. I would put AOR as the best album, even with Lochness on it. there are a few that are all close to the best, but Like you I cant fathom why anyone would not like it. then again I hate Nost, so who knows. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, April 16, 2010 2:50:44 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yeah the album title is "Scream". The sound of this song sucks the big one. Head banger...Revolution definately is not the best track on AOR I agree but somehow I knew that the rest of AOR would be good before I heard it and it was except for the boring Lockness but I can't see the rest of Ozzy's album suddenly turning out like Blizzard Of Oz or Diary Of A Madman.
On that note,Angel Of Retribution may not be Judas Priest's best LP but its not thier worst either,it utterly amazes me how many people not just on this forum but outside this forum who do not like Retribution,they all compare it with recent boring Iron Maiden albums and to me thats unbelievable.
I swear if Angel Of Retribution were released in 1986 instead of Turbo,90% of these people who say they don't like it would be hailing it as a classic right along side of Defenders Of The Faith. I still say that Judas Rising,Demonizer and Hellrider are just as good as ANY JP track ever,name any 3 songs by JP and those 3 are just as good to me anyway. It doesn't matter though,Priest could release an album better than Painkiller and since its not released in the 80's 90% of people would hate it,thier loss. I really think that Angel Of Retribution is an underrated album,still say its the band's 5th best studio album of all time I even like it better than Stained Class,Hell Bent For Leather and Defenders Of The Faith but thats my opionion.
jimmyjames wrote:
I know, it's pretty stupid. However the fact that they released it as a single means it's probably the best song on the album. If that's the case then this album is going to be an incredible achievement. I never would have believed that Ozzy could make an album worse than Black Rain, but if this song is anything to go by he may just have surpassed himself. He should have kept the title Soul Sucka, that would have been the icing on the shit flavoured cake.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Oh my fuckin god that is fuckin "TERRIBLE" dude,fuckin A this retarded idiot doesn't learn when to stop.That song sucks like Ozzy sucks.I HATE Ozzy Ozbourne.
jimmyjames wrote:
Here's Ozzys' new song Let Me Hear You Scream. Let the bashing begin.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 16, 2010 2:50:44 PM
Yeah the album title is "Scream". The sound of this song sucks the big one. Head banger...Revolution definately is not the best track on AOR I agree but somehow I knew that the rest of AOR would be good before I heard it and it was except for the boring Lockness but I can't see the rest of Ozzy's album suddenly turning out like Blizzard Of Oz or Diary Of A Madman.
On that note,Angel Of Retribution may not be Judas Priest's best LP but its not thier worst either,it utterly amazes me how many people not just on this forum but outside this forum who do not like Retribution,they all compare it with recent boring Iron Maiden albums and to me thats unbelievable.
I swear if Angel Of Retribution were released in 1986 instead of Turbo,90% of these people who say they don't like it would be hailing it as a classic right along side of Defenders Of The Faith. I still say that Judas Rising,Demonizer and Hellrider are just as good as ANY JP track ever,name any 3 songs by JP and those 3 are just as good to me anyway. It doesn't matter though,Priest could release an album better than Painkiller and since its not released in the 80's 90% of people would hate it,thier loss. I really think that Angel Of Retribution is an underrated album,still say its the band's 5th best studio album of all time I even like it better than Stained Class,Hell Bent For Leather and Defenders Of The Faith but thats my opionion. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Friday, April 16, 2010 2:26:09 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I know, it's pretty stupid. However the fact that they released it as a single means it's probably the best song on the album. If that's the case then this album is going to be an incredible achievement. I never would have believed that Ozzy could make an album worse than Black Rain, but if this song is anything to go by he may just have surpassed himself. He should have kept the title Soul Sucka, that would have been the icing on the shit flavoured cake.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Oh my fuckin god that is fuckin "TERRIBLE" dude,fuckin A this retarded idiot doesn't learn when to stop.That song sucks like Ozzy sucks.I HATE Ozzy Ozbourne.
jimmyjames wrote:
Here's Ozzys' new song Let Me Hear You Scream. Let the bashing begin.
[Head banger] Friday, April 16, 2010 2:50:04 PM
yeah, one can only hope. of course it probably doesnt matter. odds of me buying it are slim and nill. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Friday, April 16, 2010 2:48:07 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
True, but we are talking about Ozzy Osbourne here. The man hasn't released anything decent since 1991.
Head banger wrote:
one can only hope. however revolution was far from the strongest track on AOR....
jimmyjames wrote:
I know, it's pretty stupid. However the fact that they released it as a single means it's probably the best song on the album. If that's the case then this album is going to be an incredible achievement. I never would have believed that Ozzy could make an album worse than Black Rain, but if this song is anything to go by he may just have surpassed himself. He should have kept the title Soul Sucka, that would have been the icing on the shit flavoured cake.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Oh my fuckin god that is fuckin "TERRIBLE" dude,fuckin A this retarded idiot doesn't learn when to stop.That song sucks like Ozzy sucks.I HATE Ozzy Ozbourne.
jimmyjames wrote:
Here's Ozzys' new song Let Me Hear You Scream. Let the bashing begin.
[jimmyjames] Friday, April 16, 2010 2:48:07 PM
True, but we are talking about Ozzy Osbourne here. The man hasn't released anything decent since 1991. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Friday, April 16, 2010 2:31:59 PM)
Head banger wrote:
one can only hope. however revolution was far from the strongest track on AOR....
jimmyjames wrote:
I know, it's pretty stupid. However the fact that they released it as a single means it's probably the best song on the album. If that's the case then this album is going to be an incredible achievement. I never would have believed that Ozzy could make an album worse than Black Rain, but if this song is anything to go by he may just have surpassed himself. He should have kept the title Soul Sucka, that would have been the icing on the shit flavoured cake.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Oh my fuckin god that is fuckin "TERRIBLE" dude,fuckin A this retarded idiot doesn't learn when to stop.That song sucks like Ozzy sucks.I HATE Ozzy Ozbourne.
jimmyjames wrote:
Here's Ozzys' new song Let Me Hear You Scream. Let the bashing begin.
[Head banger] Friday, April 16, 2010 2:31:59 PM
one can only hope. however revolution was far from the strongest track on AOR....
I know, it's pretty stupid. However the fact that they released it as a single means it's probably the best song on the album. If that's the case then this album is going to be an incredible achievement. I never would have believed that Ozzy could make an album worse than Black Rain, but if this song is anything to go by he may just have surpassed himself. He should have kept the title Soul Sucka, that would have been the icing on the shit flavoured cake.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Oh my fuckin god that is fuckin "TERRIBLE" dude,fuckin A this retarded idiot doesn't learn when to stop.That song sucks like Ozzy sucks.I HATE Ozzy Ozbourne.
jimmyjames wrote:
Here's Ozzys' new song Let Me Hear You Scream. Let the bashing begin.
[jimmyjames] Friday, April 16, 2010 2:26:09 PM
I know, it's pretty stupid. However the fact that they released it as a single means it's probably the best song on the album. If that's the case then this album is going to be an incredible achievement. I never would have believed that Ozzy could make an album worse than Black Rain, but if this song is anything to go by he may just have surpassed himself. He should have kept the title Soul Sucka, that would have been the icing on the shit flavoured cake. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, April 16, 2010 12:40:52 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Oh my fuckin god that is fuckin "TERRIBLE" dude,fuckin A this retarded idiot doesn't learn when to stop.That song sucks like Ozzy sucks.I HATE Ozzy Ozbourne.
jimmyjames wrote:
Here's Ozzys' new song Let Me Hear You Scream. Let the bashing begin.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 16, 2010 12:40:52 PM
Oh my fuckin god that is fuckin "TERRIBLE" dude,fuckin A this retarded idiot doesn't learn when to stop.That song sucks like Ozzy sucks.I HATE Ozzy Ozbourne. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:03:47 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Here's Ozzys' new song Let Me Hear You Scream. Let the bashing begin.
[Becks] Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:28:58 PM
Hmmmm, I don't hate it. But I don't really like it either. Sounds rather forgettable to me. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:03:47 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Here's Ozzys' new song Let Me Hear You Scream. Let the bashing begin.
[jimmyjames] Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:03:47 PM
Here's Ozzys' new song Let Me Hear You Scream. Let the bashing begin.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:00:22 AM
So do ya want to buy a vowel you stupid fucking C#*@? LMMFAO
No....thats not true.Ozzy is a "sad" fucking retard.
Frosty wrote:
Ozzy's a fuckin retard.
[spapad] Friday, April 09, 2010 9:46:09 PM
J.D. never even bothered with you. My you are paranoid. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by xnecro'sgirl a.k.a sweet angelic from Friday, April 09, 2010 9:44:37 PM)
xnecro'sgirl a.k.a sweet angelic wrote:
UR THE RETARD J.J.DIAMOND..
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
No....thats not true.Ozzy is a "sad" fucking retard.
Frosty wrote:
Ozzy's a fuckin retard.
[xnecro'sgirl a.k.a sweet angelic] Friday, April 09, 2010 9:44:37 PM
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[Brian_Evans] Friday, April 09, 2010 9:42:14 PM
The mighty Black Sabbath fronted by Tony Martin and Children of the Sea. Awesome.
[priestaddict] Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:06:49 PM
I go for Dio, no doubt. His voice, songs, guitars are too much better IMO. But I like Ozzy a lot
[Brian_Evans] Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:44:56 PM
Here's some Dio fronted Black Sabbath along with some serious guitar work by to Tony Iommi.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, January 23, 2010 11:55:06 PM
No....thats not true.Ozzy is a "sad" fucking retard. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Frosty from Saturday, January 23, 2010 11:50:36 PM)
Frosty wrote:
Ozzy's a fuckin retard.
[Frosty] Saturday, January 23, 2010 11:50:36 PM
Ozzy's a fuckin retard.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, January 15, 2010 10:15:46 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, January 15, 2010 5:12:44 PM
LOL! Yeah thats about what that CD is good for! What a joke Guido,Ozzy has "lost it" long ago but somehow he keeps getting worse!!!! lol!! "Soul Sucka"??? LOFL!!!!! Is Ozzy going to be on the front cover album with bling bling on and a backwards tunnel hat with baggy rap pants on?? lol!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, January 15, 2010 3:56:04 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey! Ozzy doesn't suck. I got those free JP tickets...erm I mean Ozzfest when I bought Black Rain.
Now just where is that shiny drink coaster anyway?
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I can't believe there are still Ozzy fans out there,this guy is fucking retarded,he couldn't write a decent album if Judas Priest handed him the tracks themselves! He hasn't put out anything worth a shit since 1988 No Rest For The Wicked 21 years ago and that Black Rain album is god awful terrible and whats this....his new album is going to be titled "Soul Sucka"?? Are you fuckin kidding me?? "Soul Sucka"?? As jimmy james said... that is something that Snoop Dog would of came up with for his rap album ect...."Soul Sucka"?? Give me a break. Ozzy "SUCKS" and "DIO RULZ". Not even a question,this thread is a joke.Fuck Ozzy.
[guidogodoy] Friday, January 15, 2010 3:56:04 PM
Hey! Ozzy doesn't suck. I got those free JP tickets...erm I mean Ozzfest when I bought Black Rain.
Now just where is that shiny drink coaster anyway? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, January 15, 2010 3:29:32 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I can't believe there are still Ozzy fans out there,this guy is fucking retarded,he couldn't write a decent album if Judas Priest handed him the tracks themselves! He hasn't put out anything worth a shit since 1988 No Rest For The Wicked 21 years ago and that Black Rain album is god awful terrible and whats this....his new album is going to be titled "Soul Sucka"?? Are you fuckin kidding me?? "Soul Sucka"?? As jimmy james said... that is something that Snoop Dog would of came up with for his rap album ect...."Soul Sucka"?? Give me a break. Ozzy "SUCKS" and "DIO RULZ". Not even a question,this thread is a joke.Fuck Ozzy.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, January 15, 2010 3:29:32 PM
I can't believe there are still Ozzy fans out there,this guy is fucking retarded,he couldn't write a decent album if Judas Priest handed him the tracks themselves! He hasn't put out anything worth a shit since 1988 No Rest For The Wicked 21 years ago and that Black Rain album is god awful terrible and whats this....his new album is going to be titled "Soul Sucka"?? Are you fuckin kidding me?? "Soul Sucka"?? As jimmy james said... that is something that Snoop Dog would of came up with for his rap album ect...."Soul Sucka"?? Give me a break. Ozzy "SUCKS" and "DIO RULZ". Not even a question,this thread is a joke.Fuck Ozzy.
[carki] Friday, January 15, 2010 1:05:51 PM
Both are great! Especially live. From Ozzy i like more the old Black Sabbath live records (from the 70ies), Dio everything, even when he performs old Ozzy songs.
[KirbyLance] Friday, January 15, 2010 11:37:01 AM
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[nancy101] Friday, January 15, 2010 7:30:32 AM
DIO
[hotlegs] Thursday, January 14, 2010 11:30:53 AM
i enjoy ozzy osborne because his wife sharon is on
tuesday nights american's got talent. and besides
wrestling best tag team the road warriors came out
with black sabbath's iron man sung by ozzy osborne. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by musicgirl from Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:02:16 AM)
musicgirl wrote:
Enjoy both of them but like more of the songs the Ozzy put out. I am sorry to hear the Dio has cancer and hope he pulls through. Rock on everybody.
[musicgirl] Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:02:16 AM
Enjoy both of them but like more of the songs the Ozzy put out. I am sorry to hear the Dio has cancer and hope he pulls through. Rock on everybody.
[SDBinNY] Saturday, November 28, 2009 10:32:27 AM
What does it matter? Because they were both in Sabbath, no one can enjoy both of their music? Rediculous. Both of them benefit from the ever revolving door of musicians they surround themselves with, so it isn't like either of them have a formula that allows their albums to sound like echoes of the past....
BTW.... Best wishes to RJD, recently diagnosed with early stages of stomach cancer...
And yes, I am a fan of both....
[ammedredd] Saturday, November 28, 2009 6:42:58 AM
OZZY--1000 times over,realy don't like Dio,but I do like Rainbow?
i've tried but just can't go for Dio!
[jtwa1] Friday, October 23, 2009 2:54:08 AM
You should know his username is "Goliath29". I am sure he has read many other peoples correspondences as well, so watch out. If I were you all I would inform all of your friends in your contacts list as well. That's probably his motivation for joining these kind of sites. Edited at: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:54:48 AM
[jtwa1] Friday, October 23, 2009 1:37:17 AM
You're right "goddess" but none the less I must "take my ball and go home". A member of this website, who I've not seen on this page I might add, sent me a private message containg information that could only have been obtained by someone who was reading my email corrospondence with personal friends of mine. I can't have that, and I assured him that I will retaliate in kind. That's no idle threat. I'm not the person to be messed with on computers. I must now change my email address on many of my accounts, which is going to be a major hassle, all because of one jerk. I usually don't get on sites like this but I thought it might be fun. It's my fault, I should have known better. I will not repeat this mistake. Take care everyone! Even you "jd diamond".
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:06:40 AM
jtwa1, don't "take your ball and go home"! Just know that you can't change how people feel about music. In my personal opinion, music MUST be melodic to be music. Others don't want a melody they just want it heavy and loud. I don't bother to explain my reasons for liking Nostradamus because it won't change anyones mind about the album if they don't like it. To each his own. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jtwa1 from Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:35:48 AM)
jtwa1 wrote:
Sorry. Did not intend to offend anyone. Your right "you people" was a poor choice of words. I reread my post and it did sound as though I was lumping everybody into one. My remarks were aimed at "jd diamond". I didn't attack his "homeland", but he sure did mine and me personally. He fired first and I just fired back. The statement about taking my ball and going home was a joke. But I will leave you all alone. Good luck too everyone, except maybe "Diamond". JUST JOKING!!!!!! don't blow a vein.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, October 22, 2009 5:25:13 AM
jtwa1 wrote:I didn't attack his "homeland", but he sure did mine and me personally.
Thats right,and I'll do it again beyoooootch! LOFL jtwa1 ! Is there another cival war brewin' jtwa1? j/k!!
Sorry. Did not intend to offend anyone. Your right "you people" was a poor choice of words. I reread my post and it did sound as though I was lumping everybody into one. My remarks were aimed at "jd diamond". I didn't attack his "homeland", but he sure did mine and me personally. He fired first and I just fired back. The statement about taking my ball and going home was a joke. But I will leave you all alone. Good luck too everyone, except maybe "Diamond". JUST JOKING!!!!!! don't blow a vein.
Edited at: Thursday, October 22, 2009 5:33:28 AM Edited at: Thursday, October 22, 2009 5:33:49 AM
[jtwa1] Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:35:48 AM
Sorry. Did not intend to offend anyone. Your right "you people" was a poor choice of words. I reread my post and it did sound as though I was lumping everybody into one. My remarks were aimed at "jd diamond". I didn't attack his "homeland", but he sure did mine and me personally. He fired first and I just fired back. The statement about taking my ball and going home was a joke. But I will leave you all alone. Good luck too everyone, except maybe "Diamond". JUST JOKING!!!!!! don't blow a vein.
[hellrider 31038] Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:03:03 AM
yeah the PRIEST strayed to far away from metal to far for the majority of the songs on nostradamus i respect peoples feelings for the album.for myself it has been a very huge emotional rollar coaster ride at first did not like it then started getting in to it then WTF am i listening to with a burning sensation i get when i hear easy rock.this album has taken up a lot of valuble time priest could have recorded and reliesed 2 metal monsters in that time used for nostradamus .well it has been a project they have apparently wanted to do for a while and i did support it(still have not bothered opening up my nostradamus LP still in shipping cardboard and CD with book but i did buy it.TIME FOR SOME TOTAL RUSH OF POWER JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY MEEEETTTT TTTTAAALLLLLLLL [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:25:55 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yes Hellrider,thats the entire point. I think that Judas Priest "stepped outside thier realm" and went a little "too far" away from "heavy metal". Yes Nostradamus is an excellent well thought professional album and its very musical and shows the community that they can write an album of melody and the art of capturing elements that make up such a diverse album....do I like it? NO! LOL!
They really went "too far" and I think a lot of people are afraid to admit this,not the people that already claimed to have loved this album like Jackylone or Guido,they like the album simply because they "like it" and there is nothing wrong with that,but there are fans out there who are "forcing" this album to be good because they spent money on it or they are just not going to accept that they don't like it because it will be another 3 years before the next one so they "must" like it.
Nevertheless,I still think that the band got carried away in the studio and pushed it too far,as you said hellrider there is really not very much "power" in Nostradamus for a Judas Priest LP. Its all opinionated I know,and I'm doing nothing more than a fan of Nostradamus thats preaching how great the album is,but I've noticed that at least 85-90% of fans do not care for the album. Just an observation.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
no offence of coarse but WHERE IS THE FIST RAISING HEAVY METAL POOOOOOWWWWWWEEEEEERRRRRRRR IN NOSTRADAMUS A VITAL ELEMENT IN METAL.WE ARE DEFENDING THE METAL FAITH AND KEEPING IT ALIVE
jtwa1 wrote:
I should have known better. I actually thought I might see some intelligent debate. Man was I wrong. Music is much more than pounding rhythms, loud guitars and screaming vocals. The very band that you people worship as gods has tried to show you that with "Nostradamus", but you're all dissapointed that they didn't put out another "Screaming for Vengence" or "British Steel". They want to grow and expand their scope. Try going along for the ride, you may enjoy it. Open your minds a little. Listen to something new and different, you might be surprised at what you'll like. I promise it won't hurt. I'm really disappointed in you "JD Diamond". You forgot my chaw 'o' tobacky, corn cob pipe and jug 'o' shine. You also forgot about the boar hog and lazy ole coon dog settin' at the foot of my rockin' chair. You really should study up on your stereotypes before you use them. You no doubt believe the Jews have all the gold, all black people can play basketball, all Irish are drunks and all Muslims blow up airplanes. Anyone who doesn't share the same taste in music as you are stupid. The classic defense of a closed mind. That wasn't a knock at Seattle. I had a friend overseas from Seattle and when the Monsoons (look it up) came he use to joke and say it reminded him of home. You guys really bummed me out, I'm taking my ball and going home. SO THERE!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:25:55 PM
Yes Hellrider,thats the entire point. I think that Judas Priest "stepped outside thier realm" and went a little "too far" away from "heavy metal". Yes Nostradamus is an excellent well thought professional album and its very musical and shows the community that they can write an album of melody and the art of capturing elements that make up such a diverse album....do I like it? NO! LOL!
They really went "too far" and I think a lot of people are afraid to admit this,not the people that already claimed to have loved this album like Jackylone or Guido,they like the album simply because they "like it" and there is nothing wrong with that,but there are fans out there who are "forcing" this album to be good because they spent money on it or they are just not going to accept that they don't like it because it will be another 3 years before the next one so they "must" like it.
Nevertheless,I still think that the band got carried away in the studio and pushed it too far,as you said hellrider there is really not very much "power" in Nostradamus for a Judas Priest LP. Its all opinionated I know,and I'm doing nothing more than a fan of Nostradamus thats preaching how great the album is,but I've noticed that at least 85-90% of fans do not care for the album. Just an observation.
no offence of coarse but WHERE IS THE FIST RAISING HEAVY METAL POOOOOOWWWWWWEEEEEERRRRRRRR IN NOSTRADAMUS A VITAL ELEMENT IN METAL.WE ARE DEFENDING THE METAL FAITH AND KEEPING IT ALIVE
jtwa1 wrote:
I should have known better. I actually thought I might see some intelligent debate. Man was I wrong. Music is much more than pounding rhythms, loud guitars and screaming vocals. The very band that you people worship as gods has tried to show you that with "Nostradamus", but you're all dissapointed that they didn't put out another "Screaming for Vengence" or "British Steel". They want to grow and expand their scope. Try going along for the ride, you may enjoy it. Open your minds a little. Listen to something new and different, you might be surprised at what you'll like. I promise it won't hurt. I'm really disappointed in you "JD Diamond". You forgot my chaw 'o' tobacky, corn cob pipe and jug 'o' shine. You also forgot about the boar hog and lazy ole coon dog settin' at the foot of my rockin' chair. You really should study up on your stereotypes before you use them. You no doubt believe the Jews have all the gold, all black people can play basketball, all Irish are drunks and all Muslims blow up airplanes. Anyone who doesn't share the same taste in music as you are stupid. The classic defense of a closed mind. That wasn't a knock at Seattle. I had a friend overseas from Seattle and when the Monsoons (look it up) came he use to joke and say it reminded him of home. You guys really bummed me out, I'm taking my ball and going home. SO THERE!
[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:17:09 PM
TIME TO BANG OUR HEADS AND FEEL SOME JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY MEEETTT TTTAAALLL POWER
CRANK IT
YA BABY Edited at: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:18:29 PM
[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:11:26 PM
no offence of coarse but WHERE IS THE FIST RAISING HEAVY METAL POOOOOOWWWWWWEEEEEERRRRRRRR IN NOSTRADAMUS A VITAL ELEMENT IN METAL.WE ARE DEFENDING THE METAL FAITH AND KEEPING IT ALIVE [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jtwa1 from Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:34:23 AM)
jtwa1 wrote:
I should have known better. I actually thought I might see some intelligent debate. Man was I wrong. Music is much more than pounding rhythms, loud guitars and screaming vocals. The very band that you people worship as gods has tried to show you that with "Nostradamus", but you're all dissapointed that they didn't put out another "Screaming for Vengence" or "British Steel". They want to grow and expand their scope. Try going along for the ride, you may enjoy it. Open your minds a little. Listen to something new and different, you might be surprised at what you'll like. I promise it won't hurt. I'm really disappointed in you "JD Diamond". You forgot my chaw 'o' tobacky, corn cob pipe and jug 'o' shine. You also forgot about the boar hog and lazy ole coon dog settin' at the foot of my rockin' chair. You really should study up on your stereotypes before you use them. You no doubt believe the Jews have all the gold, all black people can play basketball, all Irish are drunks and all Muslims blow up airplanes. Anyone who doesn't share the same taste in music as you are stupid. The classic defense of a closed mind. That wasn't a knock at Seattle. I had a friend overseas from Seattle and when the Monsoons (look it up) came he use to joke and say it reminded him of home. You guys really bummed me out, I'm taking my ball and going home. SO THERE!
[guidogodoy] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:48:16 PM
..."it may well give you reason for a colon exam!" BWWWHAAAAHAAAAAAAA!!!! Too damn funny!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:47:29 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well said, guid.. You know, it never ceases to amaze me how someone with relatively little knowledge of the regulars comes here, uses the word "intelligent" and then proceeds to bash...? We are not "all" disappointed in Nostra, nor do I feel that fans like JD are "close minded" for their adamant distaste of the album. The style of the album is what it is. Certainly it means very little as far as what the band HAS done or WILL do. It is just an album. Further, one's age is of very little relevance insomuch as what is or is not worthy or praise or rejection. If your only credential is being over fifty, you have not really made a case for judgement. It may well give you reason for a colon exam but unless you are some kind of professional sound engineer or seasoned critic, I should think your opinion is no better or worse than JD's. As for your geographical situation....well, that is even LESS relevant.
At the end of the day, whether one chooses to listen to something "different" or chooses to remain locked in the stubborn clutch of "retro-metal", it will make little difference as to who WE on the Board really are, what we know or the impact our opinions have on the direction Priest has taken or will take.
guidogodoy wrote:
I am really sad to see you lump us all into a generalized "you people." You'd know if you read here that MANY admire Nostra and I am one of them.
Prolly cause I live in Tiiiinnessee. Oh yeah and when you tell all of us off the current phrase is:
jtwa1 wrote:
I should have known better. I actually thought I might see some intelligent debate. Man was I wrong. Music is much more than pounding rhythms, loud guitars and screaming vocals. The very band that you people worship as gods has tried to show you that with "Nostradamus", but you're all dissapointed that they didn't put out another "Screaming for Vengence" or "British Steel". They want to grow and expand their scope. Try going along for the ride, you may enjoy it. Open your minds a little. Listen to something new and different, you might be surprised at what you'll like. I promise it won't hurt. I'm really disappointed in you "JD Diamond". You forgot my chaw 'o' tobacky, corn cob pipe and jug 'o' shine. You also forgot about the boar hog and lazy ole coon dog settin' at the foot of my rockin' chair. You really should study up on your stereotypes before you use them. You no doubt believe the Jews have all the gold, all black people can play basketball, all Irish are drunks and all Muslims blow up airplanes. Anyone who doesn't share the same taste in music as you are stupid. The classic defense of a closed mind. That wasn't a knock at Seattle. I had a friend overseas from Seattle and when the Monsoons (look it up) came he use to joke and say it reminded him of home. You guys really bummed me out, I'm taking my ball and going home. SO THERE!
[Painkiller87] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:25:02 PM
Oh and a final note: METAL!!!
[Painkiller87] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:21:19 PM
So you're the one stirring everyone up. I usually don't say much but if you don't like what you hear or see, I don't like being blunt but, suck it up and just take it as is. Debating gets you no where this day and age. Believe me i know from too many experiences from school and one of my friends who wants to debate all the time. Besides you just made a fool of yourself in front of everyone making this response here when people gave you a sour note. About the music thing, I am a very open person myself. I LOVE Nostradamus but if anyone else doesn't like it for whatever reason just respect their opinion and be on your way. Don't confront them about it, it just leads to this. Well then that was my piece for now, have a pleasant day. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jtwa1 from Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:34:23 AM)
jtwa1 wrote:
I should have known better. I actually thought I might see some intelligent debate. Man was I wrong. Music is much more than pounding rhythms, loud guitars and screaming vocals. The very band that you people worship as gods has tried to show you that with "Nostradamus", but you're all dissapointed that they didn't put out another "Screaming for Vengence" or "British Steel". They want to grow and expand their scope. Try going along for the ride, you may enjoy it. Open your minds a little. Listen to something new and different, you might be surprised at what you'll like. I promise it won't hurt. I'm really disappointed in you "JD Diamond". You forgot my chaw 'o' tobacky, corn cob pipe and jug 'o' shine. You also forgot about the boar hog and lazy ole coon dog settin' at the foot of my rockin' chair. You really should study up on your stereotypes before you use them. You no doubt believe the Jews have all the gold, all black people can play basketball, all Irish are drunks and all Muslims blow up airplanes. Anyone who doesn't share the same taste in music as you are stupid. The classic defense of a closed mind. That wasn't a knock at Seattle. I had a friend overseas from Seattle and when the Monsoons (look it up) came he use to joke and say it reminded him of home. You guys really bummed me out, I'm taking my ball and going home. SO THERE!
[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:48:10 PM
YEAH COOOMMMMMMMAAAAAANNNNNNDDDDDEEEEERERRRRRRRRRR WE WANT ALL THE ELEMENTS OF TRUE METAL. FIST RAISING,HEAD BANGING,RIP YOUR FACE OFF,VERY LOUD IN IN YOUR FACE,TOTAL RUSH OF POWER JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY MEEETTT TTTAAALLL.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I FEEL THE METAL POWER
jtwa1 wrote: "Music is much more than pounding rhythms, loud guitars and screaming vocals"
I along with our forum member "the mighty hellrider 31038" do not want "MUSIC".....we want "METAL"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:04:29 PM
jtwa1 wrote: "Music is much more than pounding rhythms, loud guitars and screaming vocals"
I along with our forum member "the mighty hellrider 31038" do not want "MUSIC".....we want "METAL"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:28:48 PM
LOL! Yeah you tried to slip in the "isn't Seattle where the grunge originated from"? As if you "diddn't know already"() Please. That was every bit of an attempt to try and slag me because I'm from Seattle(where the grunge originated from)so I dished it back at you and it hit you in your pole puffer.(lol!) I'm not a rasist,or a bigget not even close,but you want to slag my homeland here,then you'll get it back full force,so with that said,why don't you take your corn cobb pipe,your chaw'o'tobacky,jug ' o ' shine and your lazy boar of a hog that sits at the foot of your red neck rockin' chair and get on down the road ya hillbilly!!! LMFAO!!Are you going to "CRY NOW"?
And your whinning "Nostradamus" bullshit is pathetic guy,I "HATE" the album,and there is NOTHING you can do about it. I think that Priest "made a mistake" with this direction and so does 90% of long time fans,the other 10% are happy with it. Deal with it.It is what it is. Since you have an open mind and all,why don't you buy a Boy George Culture Club album and give it a listen....now wait,now wait....I couldn't fathem at listening to such an album myself(yuk) but you with this open mind...hummmm....."try going along for the ride jtwa1,you may enjoy it,open your mind a little and listen to something new and different,you might be suprised at what you'll like,I promise it won't hurt ? LOFL!!!!!!!Checkmate!
I should have known better. I actually thought I might see some intelligent debate. Man was I wrong. Music is much more than pounding rhythms, loud guitars and screaming vocals. The very band that you people worship as gods has tried to show you that with "Nostradamus", but you're all dissapointed that they didn't put out another "Screaming for Vengence" or "British Steel". They want to grow and expand their scope. Try going along for the ride, you may enjoy it. Open your minds a little. Listen to something new and different, you might be surprised at what you'll like. I promise it won't hurt. I'm really disappointed in you "JD Diamond". You forgot my chaw 'o' tobacky, corn cob pipe and jug 'o' shine. You also forgot about the boar hog and lazy ole coon dog settin' at the foot of my rockin' chair. You really should study up on your stereotypes before you use them. You no doubt believe the Jews have all the gold, all black people can play basketball, all Irish are drunks and all Muslims blow up airplanes. Anyone who doesn't share the same taste in music as you are stupid. The classic defense of a closed mind. That wasn't a knock at Seattle. I had a friend overseas from Seattle and when the Monsoons (look it up) came he use to joke and say it reminded him of home. You guys really bummed me out, I'm taking my ball and going home. SO THERE!
Edited at: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:44:19 PM
[Head banger] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:55:02 PM
Trying to change someones opinion about music is pointless. We all like what we like, period. I'm not sure why you want to have a debate about it. Someone can talk to me about how awesome the Jugulator album is until they are blue in the face but it won't change how I FEEL when I listen to that album - I feel really angry after listening to it. It's not because Rob isn't there, it's the feeling of the album. I listen to Priest because I love them and they have always helped me get through the hard times in my life and this album doesn't do that for me. I can listen to that album over and over again and "open my mind" and it still won't change how it makes me FEEL. Having said that, I can take each song individually and I like them - they are some of the heaviest songs Priest has done. But as a whole, I don't like how I feel when I listen to it so I don't. I'm sure that others have similar feelings about other albums. Yes, music can grow on you.... I had a roommate in college that played Jimmy Buffett 24/7. It grew on me (like a fungus) but I do not choose to listen to it. However, when it does come on, I smile because I remember those awesome days in college.
I like the Nostradamus album along with many others here and J.D. and other people don't. So what? It doesn't make any of us more or less a fan of the ALMIGHTY PRIEST!
The thing I have always loved about the metalheads is that we do not judge one another - we are a very accepting group of people. I don't try to change other peoples minds about things like music because you either like it or you don't.
jtwa1 wrote:
I should have known better. I actually thought I might see some intelligent debate. Man was I wrong. Music is much more than pounding rhythms, loud guitars and screaming vocals. The very band that you people worship as gods has tried to show you that with "Nostradamus", but you're all dissapointed that they didn't put out another "Screaming for Vengence" or "British Steel". They want to grow and expand their scope. Try going along for the ride, you may enjoy it. Open your minds a little. Listen to something new and different, you might be surprised at what you'll like. I promise it won't hurt. I'm really disappointed in you "JD Diamond". You forgot my chaw 'o' tobacky, corn cob pipe and jug 'o' shine. You also forgot about the boar hog and lazy ole coon dog settin' at the foot of my rockin' chair. You really should study up on your stereotypes before you use them. You no doubt believe the Jews have all the gold, all black people can play basketball, all Irish are drunks and all Muslims blow up airplanes. Anyone who doesn't share the same taste in music as you are stupid. The classic defense of a closed mind. That wasn't a knock at Seattle. I had a friend overseas from Seattle and when the Monsoons (look it up) came he use to joke and say it reminded him of home. You guys really bummed me out, I'm taking my ball and going home. SO THERE!
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:37:38 PM
Oh, I forgot one thing, HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:31:02 PM
Trying to change someones opinion about music is pointless. We all like what we like, period. I'm not sure why you want to have a debate about it. Someone can talk to me about how awesome the Jugulator album is until they are blue in the face but it won't change how I FEEL when I listen to that album - I feel really angry after listening to it. It's not because Rob isn't there, it's the feeling of the album. I listen to Priest because I love them and they have always helped me get through the hard times in my life and this album doesn't do that for me. I can listen to that album over and over again and "open my mind" and it still won't change how it makes me FEEL. Having said that, I can take each song individually and I like them - they are some of the heaviest songs Priest has done. But as a whole, I don't like how I feel when I listen to it so I don't. I'm sure that others have similar feelings about other albums. Yes, music can grow on you.... I had a roommate in college that played Jimmy Buffett 24/7. It grew on me (like a fungus) but I do not choose to listen to it. However, when it does come on, I smile because I remember those awesome days in college.
I like the Nostradamus album along with many others here and J.D. and other people don't. So what? It doesn't make any of us more or less a fan of the ALMIGHTY PRIEST!
The thing I have always loved about the metalheads is that we do not judge one another - we are a very accepting group of people. I don't try to change other peoples minds about things like music because you either like it or you don't.
I should have known better. I actually thought I might see some intelligent debate. Man was I wrong. Music is much more than pounding rhythms, loud guitars and screaming vocals. The very band that you people worship as gods has tried to show you that with "Nostradamus", but you're all dissapointed that they didn't put out another "Screaming for Vengence" or "British Steel". They want to grow and expand their scope. Try going along for the ride, you may enjoy it. Open your minds a little. Listen to something new and different, you might be surprised at what you'll like. I promise it won't hurt. I'm really disappointed in you "JD Diamond". You forgot my chaw 'o' tobacky, corn cob pipe and jug 'o' shine. You also forgot about the boar hog and lazy ole coon dog settin' at the foot of my rockin' chair. You really should study up on your stereotypes before you use them. You no doubt believe the Jews have all the gold, all black people can play basketball, all Irish are drunks and all Muslims blow up airplanes. Anyone who doesn't share the same taste in music as you are stupid. The classic defense of a closed mind. That wasn't a knock at Seattle. I had a friend overseas from Seattle and when the Monsoons (look it up) came he use to joke and say it reminded him of home. You guys really bummed me out, I'm taking my ball and going home. SO THERE!
[Deep Freeze] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:47:29 PM
Well said, guid.. You know, it never ceases to amaze me how someone with relatively little knowledge of the regulars comes here, uses the word "intelligent" and then proceeds to bash...? We are not "all" disappointed in Nostra, nor do I feel that fans like JD are "close minded" for their adamant distaste of the album. The style of the album is what it is. Certainly it means very little as far as what the band HAS done or WILL do. It is just an album. Further, one's age is of very little relevance insomuch as what is or is not worthy or praise or rejection. If your only credential is being over fifty, you have not really made a case for judgement. It may well give you reason for a colon exam but unless you are some kind of professional sound engineer or seasoned critic, I should think your opinion is no better or worse than JD's. As for your geographical situation....well, that is even LESS relevant.
At the end of the day, whether one chooses to listen to something "different" or chooses to remain locked in the stubborn clutch of "retro-metal", it will make little difference as to who WE on the Board really are, what we know or the impact our opinions have on the direction Priest has taken or will take.
I am really sad to see you lump us all into a generalized "you people." You'd know if you read here that MANY admire Nostra and I am one of them.
Prolly cause I live in Tiiiinnessee. Oh yeah and when you tell all of us off the current phrase is:
jtwa1 wrote:
I should have known better. I actually thought I might see some intelligent debate. Man was I wrong. Music is much more than pounding rhythms, loud guitars and screaming vocals. The very band that you people worship as gods has tried to show you that with "Nostradamus", but you're all dissapointed that they didn't put out another "Screaming for Vengence" or "British Steel". They want to grow and expand their scope. Try going along for the ride, you may enjoy it. Open your minds a little. Listen to something new and different, you might be surprised at what you'll like. I promise it won't hurt. I'm really disappointed in you "JD Diamond". You forgot my chaw 'o' tobacky, corn cob pipe and jug 'o' shine. You also forgot about the boar hog and lazy ole coon dog settin' at the foot of my rockin' chair. You really should study up on your stereotypes before you use them. You no doubt believe the Jews have all the gold, all black people can play basketball, all Irish are drunks and all Muslims blow up airplanes. Anyone who doesn't share the same taste in music as you are stupid. The classic defense of a closed mind. That wasn't a knock at Seattle. I had a friend overseas from Seattle and when the Monsoons (look it up) came he use to joke and say it reminded him of home. You guys really bummed me out, I'm taking my ball and going home. SO THERE!
[guidogodoy] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:17:17 AM
I am really sad to see you lump us all into a generalized "you people." You'd know if you read here that MANY admire Nostra and I am one of them.
Prolly cause I live in Tiiiinnessee. Oh yeah and when you tell all of us off the current phrase is:
I should have known better. I actually thought I might see some intelligent debate. Man was I wrong. Music is much more than pounding rhythms, loud guitars and screaming vocals. The very band that you people worship as gods has tried to show you that with "Nostradamus", but you're all dissapointed that they didn't put out another "Screaming for Vengence" or "British Steel". They want to grow and expand their scope. Try going along for the ride, you may enjoy it. Open your minds a little. Listen to something new and different, you might be surprised at what you'll like. I promise it won't hurt. I'm really disappointed in you "JD Diamond". You forgot my chaw 'o' tobacky, corn cob pipe and jug 'o' shine. You also forgot about the boar hog and lazy ole coon dog settin' at the foot of my rockin' chair. You really should study up on your stereotypes before you use them. You no doubt believe the Jews have all the gold, all black people can play basketball, all Irish are drunks and all Muslims blow up airplanes. Anyone who doesn't share the same taste in music as you are stupid. The classic defense of a closed mind. That wasn't a knock at Seattle. I had a friend overseas from Seattle and when the Monsoons (look it up) came he use to joke and say it reminded him of home. You guys really bummed me out, I'm taking my ball and going home. SO THERE!
[jtwa1] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:34:23 AM
I should have known better. I actually thought I might see some intelligent debate. Man was I wrong. Music is much more than pounding rhythms, loud guitars and screaming vocals. The very band that you people worship as gods has tried to show you that with "Nostradamus", but you're all dissapointed that they didn't put out another "Screaming for Vengence" or "British Steel". They want to grow and expand their scope. Try going along for the ride, you may enjoy it. Open your minds a little. Listen to something new and different, you might be surprised at what you'll like. I promise it won't hurt. I'm really disappointed in you "JD Diamond". You forgot my chaw 'o' tobacky, corn cob pipe and jug 'o' shine. You also forgot about the boar hog and lazy ole coon dog settin' at the foot of my rockin' chair. You really should study up on your stereotypes before you use them. You no doubt believe the Jews have all the gold, all black people can play basketball, all Irish are drunks and all Muslims blow up airplanes. Anyone who doesn't share the same taste in music as you are stupid. The classic defense of a closed mind. That wasn't a knock at Seattle. I had a friend overseas from Seattle and when the Monsoons (look it up) came he use to joke and say it reminded him of home. You guys really bummed me out, I'm taking my ball and going home. SO THERE!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:05:43 PM
LOL! Well to "jtwa1" Black Rain is "better" than Dio's "Holy Diver" album,or anything Dio has ever put out. Black Rain is better than The Mob Rules? LMFAO Guido!!!!! I still own and listen to Blizzard Of Oz,Diary Of A Madman and Bark At The Moon. With the exception of some songs off of No Rest For The Wicked,every Ozzy album after Bark At The Moon is really not that great at all,and most of them are terrible. Dio crushes Ozzy's solo albums after Randy died. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:58:31 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
HAAAA!!! Forgot all about Black Rain. Only bought it for the free ticket to see Priest! LOL!!!!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
lol! Well you sure dished up some "baloney" if I've ever seen it! HAHAHA! "Black Rain" is the "worst" album by OZZY I have ever heard in my freaking life!! That song "I don't wanna Stop" is the worst track by Ozzy I have ever heard as well.The Black Rain album is a mear "joke" and the "sound" that Zack has is not "OZZY'S sound"....its a down-tuned-Korn,System Of A Down,Godsmack sound that the Ozzy camp ripped off to cater to the OZZ FEST crowd! Thats a sell out if I've ever seen one!! HA! Sorry guy,I just can't understand how anyone could like "Black Rain". YUK!
Holy Diver Vs. Black Rain...hummmm anybody want to answer this one?
And Nostradamus you think is the BEST ALBUM PRIEST HAS EVER DONE? .....aaa.....ok "Jackylone". NOT!
And nice try in linking me to the Seattle grunge scene(lmao!) Yes I'm from Seattle(durrr) and yes this is where the "grunge scene" started,but to you ...surely JD must have started this scene(lmao guys!!)?? No? lol!!Lets just say that I'm glad I'm in Seattle (where there is and has been a significant amount of a true metal scene here for years) vs. living 30 miles from the "Kentucky border".Maybe you could send me up a pair of overalls and a rocking chair.....ouch my neck is feeling "red" already? LOL!!
(Quoting Message by jtwa1 from Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:13:30 AM)
jtwa1 wrote:
I was focusing on Black Sabbath and I hate boloney except with cheese and tomato. I disagree with you completely. I think Technical Ecstacy and Never Say Die are great albums. As far as the solo careers go, I don't think Dio can compare. I like Dio. I have several of his albums and I've paid to see him and would again, but he tends to get a little repetative. I also believe Black Rain is far better than anything Dio has ever done. I also think that Nostradamus is far and away the best album Preist has ever done and I'm relatively sure you would disagree with me on that also "J.D. Diamond". It's a silly argument really. It's all a matter of taste isn't it. It's like arguing about favorite colors or taste in women but it's fun and something to do when you can't sleep. I respect your opinion, I just disagree. I also don't like Guns 'n' Roses but I like Velvet Revolver. I like Megadeth but hate Metallica and their "we're the best metal band ever" attitude. It's all taste.
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[guidogodoy] Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:58:31 PM
HAAAA!!! Forgot all about Black Rain. Only bought it for the free ticket to see Priest! LOL!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:52:41 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
lol! Well you sure dished up some "baloney" if I've ever seen it! HAHAHA! "Black Rain" is the "worst" album by OZZY I have ever heard in my freaking life!! That song "I don't wanna Stop" is the worst track by Ozzy I have ever heard as well.The Black Rain album is a mear "joke" and the "sound" that Zack has is not "OZZY'S sound"....its a down-tuned-Korn,System Of A Down,Godsmack sound that the Ozzy camp ripped off to cater to the OZZ FEST crowd! Thats a sell out if I've ever seen one!! HA! Sorry guy,I just can't understand how anyone could like "Black Rain". YUK!
Holy Diver Vs. Black Rain...hummmm anybody want to answer this one?
And Nostradamus you think is the BEST ALBUM PRIEST HAS EVER DONE? .....aaa.....ok "Jackylone". NOT!
And nice try in linking me to the Seattle grunge scene(lmao!) Yes I'm from Seattle(durrr) and yes this is where the "grunge scene" started,but to you ...surely JD must have started this scene(lmao guys!!)?? No? lol!!Lets just say that I'm glad I'm in Seattle (where there is and has been a significant amount of a true metal scene here for years) vs. living 30 miles from the "Kentucky border".Maybe you could send me up a pair of overalls and a rocking chair.....ouch my neck is feeling "red" already? LOL!!
(Quoting Message by jtwa1 from Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:13:30 AM)
jtwa1 wrote:
I was focusing on Black Sabbath and I hate boloney except with cheese and tomato. I disagree with you completely. I think Technical Ecstacy and Never Say Die are great albums. As far as the solo careers go, I don't think Dio can compare. I like Dio. I have several of his albums and I've paid to see him and would again, but he tends to get a little repetative. I also believe Black Rain is far better than anything Dio has ever done. I also think that Nostradamus is far and away the best album Preist has ever done and I'm relatively sure you would disagree with me on that also "J.D. Diamond". It's a silly argument really. It's all a matter of taste isn't it. It's like arguing about favorite colors or taste in women but it's fun and something to do when you can't sleep. I respect your opinion, I just disagree. I also don't like Guns 'n' Roses but I like Velvet Revolver. I like Megadeth but hate Metallica and their "we're the best metal band ever" attitude. It's all taste.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:52:41 PM
lol! Well you sure dished up some "baloney" if I've ever seen it! HAHAHA! "Black Rain" is the "worst" album by OZZY I have ever heard in my freaking life!! That song "I don't wanna Stop" is the worst track by Ozzy I have ever heard as well.The Black Rain album is a mear "joke" and the "sound" that Zack has is not "OZZY'S sound"....its a down-tuned-Korn,System Of A Down,Godsmack sound that the Ozzy camp ripped off to cater to the OZZ FEST crowd! Thats a sell out if I've ever seen one!! HA! Sorry guy,I just can't understand how anyone could like "Black Rain". YUK!
Holy Diver Vs. Black Rain...hummmm anybody want to answer this one?
And Nostradamus you think is the BEST ALBUM PRIEST HAS EVER DONE? .....aaa.....ok "Jackylone". NOT!
And nice try in linking me to the Seattle grunge scene(lmao!) Yes I'm from Seattle(durrr) and yes this is where the "grunge scene" started,but to you ...surely JD must have started this scene(lmao guys!!)?? No? lol!!Lets just say that I'm glad I'm in Seattle (where there is and has been a significant amount of a true metal scene here for years) vs. living 30 miles from the "Kentucky border".Maybe you could send me up a pair of overalls and a rocking chair.....ouch my neck is feeling "red" already? LOL!!
I was focusing on Black Sabbath and I hate boloney except with cheese and tomato. I disagree with you completely. I think Technical Ecstacy and Never Say Die are great albums. As far as the solo careers go, I don't think Dio can compare. I like Dio. I have several of his albums and I've paid to see him and would again, but he tends to get a little repetative. I also believe Black Rain is far better than anything Dio has ever done. I also think that Nostradamus is far and away the best album Preist has ever done and I'm relatively sure you would disagree with me on that also "J.D. Diamond". It's a silly argument really. It's all a matter of taste isn't it. It's like arguing about favorite colors or taste in women but it's fun and something to do when you can't sleep. I respect your opinion, I just disagree. I also don't like Guns 'n' Roses but I like Velvet Revolver. I like Megadeth but hate Metallica and their "we're the best metal band ever" attitude. It's all taste.
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[guidogodoy] Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:00:32 PM
Hell, was anyone but me at Ozzy's "goodbye" tour? About twenty years ago. Brought both kids onstage with Kelly in arms.
At the Fox if I recall, you Detroiter(s)? I laughed as no one really knew the second to the last lines of War Pigs.
Then again, I remember the Lips tour what was lauded as the last Rolling Stones tour.
While I still love Dio, call it nostalgia, I still love Ozzy. I was actually floored with the Reunion / Ozzfest tour of '05. Then again, I was expecting some bumbling drunk asking if "I wanted a burrito" to be onstage. Ozzy did a great job. I will always think of Dio as a solo artist. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:32:55 PM)
Head banger wrote:
I cau understand loving the singer you heard first, but to say that ozzy has a better range than dio is dificult. personaly I think he is much better. I first got into sabath with the born again album, so I dont get those conflicts in my head. still one of my favorite albums. as to ozzy solo, saw him last year, and he dodged anything that might take effort to sing, except bark at the moon, which was quite strained.
jtwa1 wrote:
I can't believe this is even being debated. Dio was great with Rainbow back in the early 70s but we're talking about completely different music. Ozzie's vocals add a personna and an eerieness to the music that Sabbath requires. Sabbath has never been the same without Ozzie. Someone mentioned Live Evil as proof. The music is great. Iommi and the boys are in true form but the vocals just don't fit. Listen to Dio's vocals on the song Black Sabbath. I hated it, he ruined the song. He talks half of it and growls the rest. Ozzie's range is a lot better than Dio's. Don't get me wrong, I think Dio is a fine singer, but when he is with Sabbath their songs end up sounding like Dio's solo stuff not Sabbath. There are many singers like Dio out there but there's only one Ozzie Osbourne. Maybe you would have had to be there in the beginning like I was to really appreciate it, I don't know, but I promise you that most Sabbath fans in their 50s, as I am, find it hard to even listen to Dio sing an Ozzie song. I have seen Dio live and it was a good show, very professional. I have also seen Dio with Sabbath right after Mob Rules was done and I found myself concentrating on the music in the old Sabbath songs and just tolerating the vocals. It just wasn't the same. It would be like Zeppelin reforming with David Coverdale on vocals. Coverdale is a great singer in his own right but he couldn't replace Robert Plant, as no-one could, and no-one can replace Ozzie with Sabbath. Edited at: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:51:38 AM Edited at: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:52:13 AM Edited at: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:54:53 AM
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[Head banger] Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:32:55 PM
I cau understand loving the singer you heard first, but to say that ozzy has a better range than dio is dificult. personaly I think he is much better. I first got into sabath with the born again album, so I dont get those conflicts in my head. still one of my favorite albums. as to ozzy solo, saw him last year, and he dodged anything that might take effort to sing, except bark at the moon, which was quite strained. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jtwa1 from Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:25:04 AM)
jtwa1 wrote:
I can't believe this is even being debated. Dio was great with Rainbow back in the early 70s but we're talking about completely different music. Ozzie's vocals add a personna and an eerieness to the music that Sabbath requires. Sabbath has never been the same without Ozzie. Someone mentioned Live Evil as proof. The music is great. Iommi and the boys are in true form but the vocals just don't fit. Listen to Dio's vocals on the song Black Sabbath. I hated it, he ruined the song. He talks half of it and growls the rest. Ozzie's range is a lot better than Dio's. Don't get me wrong, I think Dio is a fine singer, but when he is with Sabbath their songs end up sounding like Dio's solo stuff not Sabbath. There are many singers like Dio out there but there's only one Ozzie Osbourne. Maybe you would have had to be there in the beginning like I was to really appreciate it, I don't know, but I promise you that most Sabbath fans in their 50s, as I am, find it hard to even listen to Dio sing an Ozzie song. I have seen Dio live and it was a good show, very professional. I have also seen Dio with Sabbath right after Mob Rules was done and I found myself concentrating on the music in the old Sabbath songs and just tolerating the vocals. It just wasn't the same. It would be like Zeppelin reforming with David Coverdale on vocals. Coverdale is a great singer in his own right but he couldn't replace Robert Plant, as no-one could, and no-one can replace Ozzie with Sabbath. Edited at: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:51:38 AM Edited at: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:52:13 AM Edited at: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:54:53 AM
[jtwa1] Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:22:17 AM
By the way Diamond, I live in Southern Indiana about 30 miles from the Kentucky border and were usually very hot, humid and dry, except for thunderstorms and tornados, in the summer but this year we've had so much rain at times I thought I was living in Seattle. Isn't that where grunge originated? I like some of those bands. Not enough lead guitar though. Edited at: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:23:20 AM
[jtwa1] Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:13:30 AM
I was focusing on Black Sabbath and I hate boloney except with cheese and tomato. I disagree with you completely. I think Technical Ecstacy and Never Say Die are great albums. As far as the solo careers go, I don't think Dio can compare. I like Dio. I have several of his albums and I've paid to see him and would again, but he tends to get a little repetative. I also believe Black Rain is far better than anything Dio has ever done. I also think that Nostradamus is far and away the best album Preist has ever done and I'm relatively sure you would disagree with me on that also "J.D. Diamond". It's a silly argument really. It's all a matter of taste isn't it. It's like arguing about favorite colors or taste in women but it's fun and something to do when you can't sleep. I respect your opinion, I just disagree. I also don't like Guns 'n' Roses but I like Velvet Revolver. I like Megadeth but hate Metallica and their "we're the best metal band ever" attitude. It's all taste.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:44:05 AM
That is a bunch of "baloney" jtwa1,you are only focusing on "Black Sabbath". The thread was not only an opinion of who was better in "Black Sabbath",but who is better as solo artists and whos latter albums are better.I'll give you that maybe Ozzy was #1 for Black Sabbath,and maybe when Dio sings Ozzy Sabbath songs they don't comfort you as they don't "fit" but the band's original material 1980's "Heaven & Hell" album and 1981 "Mob Rules" album are better albums and songs than "Never Say Die" and "Technical Ecstacy" the last 2 studio album done with "Ozzy". And I would go as far as saying that the Heaven & Hell and Mob Rules albums are just as good of material as any album done with Ozzy.
Now,if you want to talk about solo career....in my opinion "Dio" is far better solo than Ozzy solo,by FAR. Blizzard Of Oz and Diary Of A Madman are his only 2 albums that are of top quality,Bark At The Moon was "ok" and marked the LAST quality Ozzy album as the next however many albums in a row up till now was really not that great man. 1986 "The Ulimate Sin" was horrible,No Rest For The Wicked was alright,but No more Tears and every album up till now sucks big time. Dio has Holy Diver,The Last In Line,Sacred Heart,Dream Evil,Lock Up The Wolves...those 5 albums were cool,but Strange Highways and Angry Machines were the only 2 that were of less quality."Magica,Killing The Dragon and Master Of The Moon Dio's last 3 albums surpass Ozzy's by far.
I can't believe this is even being debated. Dio was great with Rainbow back in the early 70s but we're talking about completely different music. Ozzie's vocals add a personna and an eerieness to the music that Sabbath requires. Sabbath has never been the same without Ozzie. Someone mentioned Live Evil as proof. The music is great. Iommi and the boys are in true form but the vocals just don't fit. Listen to Dio's vocals on the song Black Sabbath. I hated it, he ruined the song. He talks half of it and growls the rest. Ozzie's range is a lot better than Dio's. Don't get me wrong, I think Dio is a fine singer, but when he is with Sabbath their songs end up sounding like Dio's solo stuff not Sabbath. There are many singers like Dio out there but there's only one Ozzie Osbourne. Maybe you would have had to be there in the beginning like I was to really appreciate it, I don't know, but I promise you that most Sabbath fans in their 50s, as I am, find it hard to even listen to Dio sing an Ozzie song. I have seen Dio live and it was a good show, very professional. I have also seen Dio with Sabbath right after Mob Rules was done and I found myself concentrating on the music in the old Sabbath songs and just tolerating the vocals. It just wasn't the same. It would be like Zeppelin reforming with David Coverdale on vocals. Coverdale is a great singer in his own right but he couldn't replace Robert Plant, as no-one could, and no-one can replace Ozzie with Sabbath. Edited at: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:51:38 AM Edited at: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:52:13 AM Edited at: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:54:53 AM
[jtwa1] Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:25:04 AM
I can't believe this is even being debated. Dio was great with Rainbow back in the early 70s but we're talking about completely different music. Ozzie's vocals add a personna and an eerieness to the music that Sabbath requires. Sabbath has never been the same without Ozzie. Someone mentioned Live Evil as proof. The music is great. Iommi and the boys are in true form but the vocals just don't fit. Listen to Dio's vocals on the song Black Sabbath. I hated it, he ruined the song. He talks half of it and growls the rest. Ozzie's range is a lot better than Dio's. Don't get me wrong, I think Dio is a fine singer, but when he is with Sabbath their songs end up sounding like Dio's solo stuff not Sabbath. There are many singers like Dio out there but there's only one Ozzie Osbourne. Maybe you would have had to be there in the beginning like I was to really appreciate it, I don't know, but I promise you that most Sabbath fans in their 50s, as I am, find it hard to even listen to Dio sing an Ozzie song. I have seen Dio live and it was a good show, very professional. I have also seen Dio with Sabbath right after Mob Rules was done and I found myself concentrating on the music in the old Sabbath songs and just tolerating the vocals. It just wasn't the same. It would be like Zeppelin reforming with David Coverdale on vocals. Coverdale is a great singer in his own right but he couldn't replace Robert Plant, as no-one could, and no-one can replace Ozzie with Sabbath. Edited at: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:51:38 AM Edited at: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:52:13 AM Edited at: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:54:53 AM
[soul stealer] Monday, October 19, 2009 9:06:01 AM
i like them both. i like older sabbath with ozzy, but dio is the better singer.one of the best.
[adrianaec_88] Saturday, October 17, 2009 8:29:51 PM
[adrianaec_88] Saturday, October 17, 2009 3:53:39 PM
DIO is God. Ozzy can't be compared to someone like Dio, it would be better to compare Halford and Dio...it's a hard one...
[destroyer0604] Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:29:20 AM
sorry, im gonna have to give it to ozzy on this one. no disrespect to mr. rjd. ive been loving ozzy's music about as long as i have been loving judas priest. judas priest is still my favorite band and rob halford is still the top vocalist.
[drvobradas] Monday, October 12, 2009 12:17:34 PM
DIO is God. Ozzy can't be compared to someone like Dio, it would be better to compare Halford and Dio...it's a hard one...
[K2M] Wednesday, October 07, 2009 5:45:53 PM
Geezer Wrote the Words for Sabbath [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by MattPriestFan from Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:41:00 AM)
MattPriestFan wrote:
I like Dio much better. Ozzy is backed up by good bands, but he has a no good voice himself in my opinion. Also, Dio is much more poetic. He is much deeper and darker and just better. Dio all the way.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, October 07, 2009 3:13:20 PM
Bullshit. Dio is every bit of a "real singer" for Sabbath. Who are you anyways Sharon Osbourne? Get out of here...... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by priest rules the world from Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:38:19 PM)
priest rules the world wrote:
Ozzy of course he's the only real singer for sabbath
[priest rules the world] Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:38:19 PM
Ozzy of course he's the only real singer for sabbath
[MattPriestFan] Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:41:00 AM
I like Dio much better. Ozzy is backed up by good bands, but he has a no good voice himself in my opinion. Also, Dio is much more poetic. He is much deeper and darker and just better. Dio all the way.
dio!not bc of black sabbat ozzy is one but dio solo is grate!holy dio! hail! i am beeg dio fan and "long live rock n roll" is one of the best albom of all time.
[gordi] Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:31:43 PM
dio!not bc of black sabbat ozzy is one but dio solo is grate!holy dio! hail! i am beeg dio fan and "long live rock n roll" is one of the best albom of all time.
[TampaMetalChick] Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:39:19 AM
Dio 100%! I give Ozzy credit for being there at the beginning, but Dio has always been my favorite Sabbath singer.
[K2M] Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:51:19 PM
OZZY"S voice is holding up Well
[Coyote Bongwater] Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:25:37 PM
are we still having this debate lol
[british.steel] Saturday, August 08, 2009 9:28:55 PM
Much Agreed, one might even say Ozzy's solo carrer is somewhat overrated because of the hits he had on his first couple albums. Dio keeps on crankin em out. as Ozzy should stop. i hear rumors hes going to put out 3 more albums...ugh, ill buy them tho. lol [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, August 08, 2009 3:27:58 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I say "DIO". Because I am "SICK TO DEATH" of "Ozzy". It may not be his fault but I can't stand him these days...I like his old shit with Black Sabbath
and his first 3 albums.."Blizzard Of Oz"...."Diary Of A Madman"....."Bark At The Moon"...but anything after that especially nowadays...I just can't take it.
I feel Ozzy should of retired after the 1988 "No Rest For The Wicked" album....that album had a couple of cool songs on it at least.......but I still think
he should of wrapped it up after 1988.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, August 08, 2009 3:27:58 AM
I say "DIO". Because I am "SICK TO DEATH" of "Ozzy". It may not be his fault but I can't stand him these days...I like his old shit with Black Sabbath
and his first 3 albums.."Blizzard Of Oz"...."Diary Of A Madman"....."Bark At The Moon"...but anything after that especially nowadays...I just can't take it.
I feel Ozzy should of retired after the 1988 "No Rest For The Wicked" album....that album had a couple of cool songs on it at least.......but I still think
he should of wrapped it up after 1988.
[funkster] Friday, August 07, 2009 1:03:44 PM
i love Ozzy but Dio has more range in his vocal style. He can hit a lot more high notes than ozzy can. Ozzy is a metal god, the prince of darkness, but as far as singing I gotta go with Dio.
[Skylar] Friday, August 07, 2009 6:25:45 AM
You can't compare them cause they don't sing the same type of music. For instance Dio's voice is more lyrical while Ozzy's more characteristic. I regard them both as great singers.Ozzy's also a very good performer while Dio's singing can match the opera singers. If you want to simply have fun and you're feeling like going nuts then you'l hear Ozzy.If you want to relax and just be caried away by the music you'l hear Dio
[MarBlDe] Wednesday, August 05, 2009 11:11:09 PM
OZZY,This is a stupid question
[noirchrome] Monday, August 03, 2009 10:08:27 PM
Dio rules... Ozzy drools ! Need proof ? Just listen to "Live Evil" ! ! ! Dio sang Ozzy songs better than Ozzy ever did !
[british.steel] Sunday, August 02, 2009 4:32:32 PM
I like the last in line alot, so Magica better be damn good! haha. Egypt (the chains are on) is one of the most badass Dio songs ever. i love it
[spapad] Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:31:43 PM
Now there is a lady not to be triffled with! Shows good character
ron h wrote:
caronctm wrote:
tankgunner is it?
I don't know if you were responding directly to me or just in general but let me educate you a bit.
1st: I am a woman not a man.
2nd; I didn't say that I don't like Ozzy.
3rd; I didn't say that I've only heard of him in Black Sabbath.
4th; I'm from right here in the good old U.S. of A. where, if I remember correctly, we have a little thing called freedom of opinion.
5th; No need to buy Ozzy cd's when I already own them.
6th; I never said he was "overrated" as you put it.
7th; Remember that freedom of opinion thing? Well, you stated yours just as I stated mine which obviously either you didn't read or didn't understand.
8th; A person can be a music lover, and not be labled as a lover of only one type or genre of music. Gee, what would you say to Rob Halford if you heard him sing opera? Would he no longer be the metal god that he is?
9th; Not that a lady should have to disclose her age, not that I have a problem with doing so, but I happen to be 43. Well out of school - at least the formal type. Everyday brings new oportunities to learn. I strongly advise that you do some more learning. Maybe you require a tutor or two or three. You sound like you have a lot to learn. For starters - CHILL THE F__K OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Oops, maybe you won't be able to figure out what letters go there! sorry! it's a 'u' and a 'c'.)
10th; As you put it, "i'm dead serious. listen man do yourself a favor, a big favor," go buy some Dio cd's, anything that strikes your fancy - from any period in his career, and take a listen. Better yet, go see him live, and listen to his vocal ability at his age. The man can sing, not just scream or shriek, but sing. Not many performers can last this long. They are far and few between from all genres of music.
Now go to bed, it must be past your bedtime and let the adults talk!
tankgunner wrote:
your gonna have to get off the porch man. you dont like OZZY but have only heard him in Black Sabbath? are you from another planet? really i'm dead serious. Listen man do yourself a favor, a big favor,go buy a cd called Ozzy Osbourne-Blizzard Of Ozz again thats OZZY Osbourne-Blizzard Of Ozz. If you still dont like OZZY after listening to that cd you must be an ALIEN. Chinese Metal -OZZY is not over-rated. whomever thinks that doesnt have a clue about about music period! not metal anyway!. In fact they need to go visit the limp bisqit website or linin park. how old are you people are you still in school? Edited at: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:17:47 AM
tankgunner is it?
I don't know if you were responding directly to me or just in general but let me educate you a bit.
1st: I am a woman not a man.
2nd; I didn't say that I don't like Ozzy.
3rd; I didn't say that I've only heard of him in Black Sabbath.
4th; I'm from right here in the good old U.S. of A. where, if I remember correctly, we have a little thing called freedom of opinion.
5th; No need to buy Ozzy cd's when I already own them.
6th; I never said he was "overrated" as you put it.
7th; Remember that freedom of opinion thing? Well, you stated yours just as I stated mine which obviously either you didn't read or didn't understand.
8th; A person can be a music lover, and not be labled as a lover of only one type or genre of music. Gee, what would you say to Rob Halford if you heard him sing opera? Would he no longer be the metal god that he is?
9th; Not that a lady should have to disclose her age, not that I have a problem with doing so, but I happen to be 43. Well out of school - at least the formal type. Everyday brings new oportunities to learn. I strongly advise that you do some more learning. Maybe you require a tutor or two or three. You sound like you have a lot to learn. For starters - CHILL THE F__K OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Oops, maybe you won't be able to figure out what letters go there! sorry! it's a 'u' and a 'c'.)
10th; As you put it, "i'm dead serious. listen man do yourself a favor, a big favor," go buy some Dio cd's, anything that strikes your fancy - from any period in his career, and take a listen. Better yet, go see him live, and listen to his vocal ability at his age. The man can sing, not just scream or shriek, but sing. Not many performers can last this long. They are far and few between from all genres of music.
Now go to bed, it must be past your bedtime and let the adults talk!
tankgunner wrote:
your gonna have to get off the porch man. you dont like OZZY but have only heard him in Black Sabbath? are you from another planet? really i'm dead serious. Listen man do yourself a favor, a big favor,go buy a cd called Ozzy Osbourne-Blizzard Of Ozz again thats OZZY Osbourne-Blizzard Of Ozz. If you still dont like OZZY after listening to that cd you must be an ALIEN. Chinese Metal -OZZY is not over-rated. whomever thinks that doesnt have a clue about about music period! not metal anyway!. In fact they need to go visit the limp bisqit website or linin park. how old are you people are you still in school? Edited at: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:17:47 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:26:43 PM
Yeah....Magica is better than "Last In Line" and :Sacred Heart" to me...in my opinion. Holy Diver is his best. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by british.steel from Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:12:26 PM)
british.steel wrote:
HA!
JD ive never listend to Magica, i should probably give it a listen, but Holy Diver, Last In Line, Sacred Heart are my favs from Dio solo carreer, the song Lock up the wolves is awesome, strange highways is sweet too.
[british.steel] Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:12:26 PM
HA!
JD ive never listend to Magica, i should probably give it a listen, but Holy Diver, Last In Line, Sacred Heart are my favs from Dio solo carreer, the song Lock up the wolves is awesome, strange highways is sweet too.
[caronctm] Saturday, August 01, 2009 4:18:43 AM
tankgunner is it?
I don't know if you were responding directly to me or just in general but let me educate you a bit.
1st: I am a woman not a man.
2nd; I didn't say that I don't like Ozzy.
3rd; I didn't say that I've only heard of him in Black Sabbath.
4th; I'm from right here in the good old U.S. of A. where, if I remember correctly, we have a little thing called freedom of opinion.
5th; No need to buy Ozzy cd's when I already own them.
6th; I never said he was "overrated" as you put it.
7th; Remember that freedom of opinion thing? Well, you stated yours just as I stated mine which obviously either you didn't read or didn't understand.
8th; A person can be a music lover, and not be labled as a lover of only one type or genre of music. Gee, what would you say to Rob Halford if you heard him sing opera? Would he no longer be the metal god that he is?
9th; Not that a lady should have to disclose her age, not that I have a problem with doing so, but I happen to be 43. Well out of school - at least the formal type. Everyday brings new oportunities to learn. I strongly advise that you do some more learning. Maybe you require a tutor or two or three. You sound like you have a lot to learn. For starters - CHILL THE F__K OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Oops, maybe you won't be able to figure out what letters go there! sorry! it's a 'u' and a 'c'.)
10th; As you put it, "i'm dead serious. listen man do yourself a favor, a big favor," go buy some Dio cd's, anything that strikes your fancy - from any period in his career, and take a listen. Better yet, go see him live, and listen to his vocal ability at his age. The man can sing, not just scream or shriek, but sing. Not many performers can last this long. They are far and few between from all genres of music.
Now go to bed, it must be past your bedtime and let the adults talk! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by tankgunner from Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:07:30 AM)
tankgunner wrote:
your gonna have to get off the porch man. you dont like OZZY but have only heard him in Black Sabbath? are you from another planet? really i'm dead serious. Listen man do yourself a favor, a big favor,go buy a cd called Ozzy Osbourne-Blizzard Of Ozz again thats OZZY Osbourne-Blizzard Of Ozz. If you still dont like OZZY after listening to that cd you must be an ALIEN. Chinese Metal -OZZY is not over-rated. whomever thinks that doesnt have a clue about about music period! not metal anyway!. In fact they need to go visit the limp bisqit website or linin park. how old are you people are you still in school? Edited at: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:17:47 AM
[icecreamman] Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:48:50 PM
DIO
[Sinner Rider] Thursday, July 30, 2009 3:51:54 PM
Ahhh. I love the Ultimate Sin is my personal favorite..
I can see how people wouldn't like it as it has a different feel then his other solo stuff.. a little more electronic sounding maybe?
I can't understand how any metalhead does not like Dio..
Tank...I'm not sure who you are talking to....who has only heard Ozzy in Sabbath and not solo? Hum........ Anyways....the first 2 Ozzy albums are his best...Blizzard Of Oz and Diary Of A Madman.
Bark At The Moon was "ok" and The Ultimate Sin was his worst album yuk! No Rest For The Wicked was less quality than Bark At The Moon even...and No more Tears was nowhere even close
to the under-par-quality album of No Rest For The Wicked. And then the rest of his career went down hill fast...."Black Rain" is horrible and shows how much Ozzy needs to give it up.
Dio's solo albums were a little bit better but not much....he had lame albums too..."Dream Evil"...Strange Highways....Angry Machines.....Killing The Dragon was better but I wasn't really
impressed with it....Master Of The Moon same thing...."ok".. I think Holy Diver was his best and Last In Line his 3rd best...."Sacred Heart" was cool,Lock Up The Wolves and Magica were
cool as well. I think "Magica" was Dio's 2nd best record under Holy Diver. Magica is amazing and I would recomend anyone who likes Dio to buy it.
tankgunner wrote:
your gonna have to get off the porch man. you dont like OZZY but have only heard him in Black Sabbath? are you from another planet? really i'm dead serious. Listen man do yourself a favor, a big favor,go buy a cd called Ozzy Osbourne-Blizzard Of Ozz again thats OZZY Osbourne-Blizzard Of Ozz. If you still dont like OZZY after listening to that cd you must be an ALIEN. Chinese Metal -OZZY is not over-rated. whomever thinks that doesnt have a clue about about music period! not metal anyway!. In fact they need to go visit the limp bisqit website or linin park. how old are you people are you still in school? Edited at: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:17:47 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, July 30, 2009 3:23:12 PM
Tank...I'm not sure who you are talking to....who has only heard Ozzy in Sabbath and not solo? Hum........ Anyways....the first 2 Ozzy albums are his best...Blizzard Of Oz and Diary Of A Madman.
Bark At The Moon was "ok" and The Ultimate Sin was his worst album yuk! No Rest For The Wicked was less quality than Bark At The Moon even...and No more Tears was nowhere even close
to the under-par-quality album of No Rest For The Wicked. And then the rest of his career went down hill fast...."Black Rain" is horrible and shows how much Ozzy needs to give it up.
Dio's solo albums were a little bit better but not much....he had lame albums too..."Dream Evil"...Strange Highways....Angry Machines.....Killing The Dragon was better but I wasn't really
impressed with it....Master Of The Moon same thing...."ok".. I think Holy Diver was his best and Last In Line his 3rd best...."Sacred Heart" was cool,Lock Up The Wolves and Magica were
cool as well. I think "Magica" was Dio's 2nd best record under Holy Diver. Magica is amazing and I would recomend anyone who likes Dio to buy it.
your gonna have to get off the porch man. you dont like OZZY but have only heard him in Black Sabbath? are you from another planet? really i'm dead serious. Listen man do yourself a favor, a big favor,go buy a cd called Ozzy Osbourne-Blizzard Of Ozz again thats OZZY Osbourne-Blizzard Of Ozz. If you still dont like OZZY after listening to that cd you must be an ALIEN. Chinese Metal -OZZY is not over-rated. whomever thinks that doesnt have a clue about about music period! not metal anyway!. In fact they need to go visit the limp bisqit website or linin park. how old are you people are you still in school? Edited at: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:17:47 AM
[british.steel] Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:57:55 AM
hey tank gunner, im still in school. i love Ozzy as well as Dio, but Dio wins in my opinion because he had better solo carreer than ozzy. but ozzy was amazing in sabbath. im more of a dio fan. Blizzard is great, also while ur getting blizzard of oz, pick up No more tears.
[tankgunner] Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:27:35 AM
I love DIO as well
[tankgunner] Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:07:30 AM
your gonna have to get off the porch man. you dont like OZZY but have only heard him in Black Sabbath? are you from another planet? really i'm dead serious. Listen man do yourself a favor, a big favor,go buy a cd called Ozzy Osbourne-Blizzard Of Ozz again thats OZZY Osbourne-Blizzard Of Ozz. If you still dont like OZZY after listening to that cd you must be an ALIEN. Chinese Metal -OZZY is not over-rated. whomever thinks that doesnt have a clue about about music period! not metal anyway!. In fact they need to go visit the limp bisqit website or linin park. how old are you people are you still in school? Edited at: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:17:47 AM
[caronctm] Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:37:41 AM
I agree with J.D.D. and Ron. Although Ozzy is great, best with Sabbath, Dio still has the voice and the presence. Last summers concert at Jones Beach with Priest was incredible! Dio definately has it over Ozzy, in individual style, vocal talent and overall career. Just one metal chicks opinion!
[randib] Thursday, July 09, 2009 12:18:59 AM
I would have to say Dio. Gonna see him with the fellos from Black Sabbath their band Heaven and Hell, Aug 8!
[priestaddict] Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:29:20 PM
Dio, but I do love Ozzy
[Henrich 1] Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:36:37 PM
i like both so i cant choose ozzy is good for what he did and dio is good for what he did simple
[hellrider 31038] Monday, July 06, 2009 9:32:32 PM
OZZY
[Amboydukes] Monday, July 06, 2009 4:08:10 PM
Give me Dio for the talent and voice. Ozzy did not do much as far as song writing, never has. Usually his bassist and guitarists do the song writing. I do luv Ozzy though. No disrespect intended.
