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[MetalPixie] Monday, April 25, 2011 10:30:39 PM
Greetings all. Been eons since I've posted ... and the last time was due to the "farewell tour"announcement
(or possibly a request for Scottie pics!).
Just read through all the posts on this thread and it's amazing how "entitled" we all feel.
For as much as everyone says they appreciate the 40+ years of music he's given us -
many of us seem to have turned on him just because he made a decision we don't like or understand.
While it saddens me that KK has chosen to retire he doesn't "owe" us anymore than he's told us.
We have no idea what's gone on behind the scenes.
Heck - anyone who's even been in just a local cover band knows there can be a huge amount of turmoil among members - even if you are like family.
At least KK isn't bashing the guys individually or the band as a whole.
This band has ALWAYS presented a professional front ... unlike most of the train wreck bands in the industry.
And he's confirmed that his health is fine.
Would we really want him on the tour if his heart isn't in it? For us OR for him?
How many of us have initially agreed to do something and then had second thoughts ... for whatever reason?
What a bunch of fair weather fans we are ... KK won't be there, so screw the whole band? Makes no sense.
By the way - I don't disagree that this really should have been made public prior to tickets going on sale IF THEY NEW ABOUT IT and IF KK was ok with announcing it at that time. But it shouldn't make that big a difference. This is still a BUSINESS for the guys and their management team ... and we all know that not all business decisions are popular.
Perhaps KK agreed to tour until the band found a suitable replacement? Who knows.
Priest survived even when Rob left (...and here come the anti-Ripper folks' comments...). Priest will survive even without KK.
Priest is a BAND ... it is greater than the sum of its parts.
Before you jump to conclusions - hear what they release.
Seriously - if you're willing to turn your back on the band that has done so much for you over the years, stay home.
You'll leave better seats for those of us who truly appreciate and respect this band for what it's been, what it is, and who each person is who has EVER been a part of the band and for those of us who want to celebrate that.
Take this for what it's worth to you ... the music world is watching us cave in on ourselves. What an embarrassment to the band.
[Dave 444] Sunday, April 24, 2011 8:38:53 AM
Like I said a few days ago. KK just did not decide to retire. The band was fighting.
I support KK in what he decides to do. Just sucks. He started the band. KK is the band.
[Anders Haneskog] Sunday, April 24, 2011 2:55:26 AM
This is bad news for Priest and the fans. What can one say, things like this happen. I can really understand Ken for doing this. Sometimes one just can not go on anymore. I do not blame Ken for this at all. It is just sad that it has ended.
I hope Ken makes more music in another form in the future. Maybe he will not. Good luck, Ken!
[Udo Sapper] Sunday, April 24, 2011 1:00:44 AM
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: "They did owe us some sort of explanation and I feel we got one with KK's press release. I don't need to know all the sordid details, who said what and who did what. I love the fact that Priest keeps those things private. This isn't Metallica and we won't be seeing their counseling sessions on a video documentary, THANK GOD!!! At least this time around, they are being respectful to each other. This is no doubt hard on each and every member of the band. I hope once people have time to digest this news, they will give Faulkner a chance and go see the Priest on tour. We are a very spoiled group of fans, having the core line-up stay intact for almost 40 years, except for Rob's departure of course. Most bands can not stick it out together for even half that time before someone leaves and is replaced. I too would rather have 4 out of the 5 than no Priest at all. I will miss KK dearly, but I wish him all the best."
...and I couldn't agree more. Thanks.
Hails,
Udo
[Brian_Evans] Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:43:57 PM
Maybe the site designer doesn't know how to use photoshop ...lol [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, April 23, 2011 7:49:23 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
What I want to know is why KK is still on the site title page? They've had 6 months to incorperate Faulkner into the Epitaph artwork.
[Jeanine] Saturday, April 23, 2011 8:42:08 PM
They said KK would not be on the tour. He may still be on the album. I am sad/mad like the rest of you but KK has definately earned his right to do what he wants. We had a GREAT British Steel tour that made us all very happy. Revel it that. LOVE that man. I will try very hard to give Richie a chance to prove himself. The pressure is on!
[Budred] Saturday, April 23, 2011 8:36:40 PM
Some here say they owe us an explanation and others say they don't. Now that the reality
of it is settling in I don't even care. I'll judge them by what they give us on the album and tour.
If it's subpar hopefully they will hang it up. The only reason I've posted that sentiment a few times
now is I don't want to see them become a mockery of themselves. Before last summer the last 6
or so times I saw Ozzy I was feeling sad thinking he was just embarassing himself up there. I don't
want to see Priest like that. Back to the explanation thing. As much as I really don't care anymore
I think the people that want one do deserve it. Priest was around for 40 years. Why? Because of
us. They didn't (give) us anything, we (paid) them for it. Everything they have they have because of
us. Why not provide a thorough explanation. We're all adults here, what do they have to hide? It's
not like they have to fib to the kids to protect someone's feelings. Be straight up. We in turn need to be
adults also. Regardless of the decision it was his/theirs to make. Like it or not we must accept it.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, April 23, 2011 8:21:05 PM
They did owe us some sort of explanation and I feel we got one with KK's press release. I don't need to know all the sordid details, who said what and who did what. I love the fact that Priest keeps those things private. This isn't Metallica and we won't be seeing their counseling sessions on a video documentary, THANK GOD!!! At least this time around, they are being respectful to each other. This is no doubt hard on each and every member of the band. I hope once people have time to digest this news, they will give Faulkner a chance and go see the Priest on tour. We are a very spoiled group of fans, having the core line-up stay intact for almost 40 years, except for Rob's departure of course. Most bands can not stick it out together for even half that time before someone leaves and is replaced. I too would rather have 4 out of the 5 than no Priest at all. I will miss KK dearly, but I wish him all the best.
Well, first of all, this could go one of two ways: if the tour goes very well and the fan response is favourable, then JP may find it fruitful to continue pumping out stuff and touring for a few more years. Perhaps Richie Faulkner might put a fresh fire in the belly of the beast. I don't know anything about him, but maybe he's got some great musical ideas that can 'refresh' the old JP style, and more of what the fans are dying to hear. Or not. We can only wait and see. The other option is that fans will begrudge Faulkner straight off the bat because they can't imagine Priest (or Glenn) without KK and are reluctant to give him a chance, out of loyalty to KK. I think that the timing is shit, but we don't really know how long there was discord in the Priest camp. Maybe it's been a long time coming....I was pissed when I first heard about it, because this would have been my first and clearly last concert of JP, and to see them without the full line-up of talent was unthinkable. I'm kind of feeling like JP was a perfect marriage all these years, that everyone thought would last forever, then there's a sudden divorce announcement. But the bottom line is, people gotta be true to themselves and honest, and if KK and the boys were no longer enjoying a healthy, productive relationship, both musically and personally, then what can we do? It can't have been easy for them to arrive at this point and make such a difficult and painful decision. Quite honestly, after stewing for a couple of days, I don't think we can say 'they owe us any explanations'. JP has given us music we will love forever, great memories, and been a colossal part of all their fans' lives. I don't want any explanations. If this move offers the possibilty of a few more albums and a few more good concerts, even without KK, and it's ultimately what will work best for both parties, so that there is no animosity and they all can move forward in directions that work best for them so they get some satisfaction in their lives, then so be it. I guess I'd rather have part of Priest, than no Priest. I wish KK the best of luck in whatever he chooses to do, and salute him for all the years of amazing music. We would have liked it for a little while longer.
[metalgodess] Saturday, April 23, 2011 8:05:05 PM
Well, first of all, this could go one of two ways: if the tour goes very well and the fan response is favourable, then JP may find it fruitful to continue pumping out stuff and touring for a few more years. Perhaps Richie Faulkner might put a fresh fire in the belly of the beast. I don't know anything about him, but maybe he's got some great musical ideas that can 'refresh' the old JP style, and more of what the fans are dying to hear. Or not. We can only wait and see. The other option is that fans will begrudge Faulkner straight off the bat because they can't imagine Priest (or Glenn) without KK and are reluctant to give him a chance, out of loyalty to KK. I think that the timing is shit, but we don't really know how long there was discord in the Priest camp. Maybe it's been a long time coming....I was pissed when I first heard about it, because this would have been my first and clearly last concert of JP, and to see them without the full line-up of talent was unthinkable. I'm kind of feeling like JP was a perfect marriage all these years, that everyone thought would last forever, then there's a sudden divorce announcement. But the bottom line is, people gotta be true to themselves and honest, and if KK and the boys were no longer enjoying a healthy, productive relationship, both musically and personally, then what can we do? It can't have been easy for them to arrive at this point and make such a difficult and painful decision. Quite honestly, after stewing for a couple of days, I don't think we can say 'they owe us any explanations'. JP has given us music we will love forever, great memories, and been a colossal part of all their fans' lives. I don't want any explanations. If this move offers the possibilty of a few more albums and a few more good concerts, even without KK, and it's ultimately what will work best for both parties, so that there is no animosity and they all can move forward in directions that work best for them so they get some satisfaction in their lives, then so be it. I guess I'd rather have part of Priest, than no Priest. I wish KK the best of luck in whatever he chooses to do, and salute him for all the years of amazing music. We would have liked it for a little while longer.
[jimmyjames] Saturday, April 23, 2011 7:49:23 PM
What I want to know is why KK is still on the site title page? They've had 6 months to incorperate Faulkner into the Epitaph artwork.
[seventongueXXX] Saturday, April 23, 2011 4:49:37 PM
He needs to be more specific why he quit. They announced that they were doing a farewell tour and they started booking dates. That's why he should let the fans know why he wants to leave. Personally, I didn't expect a lot out of them when they reunited cause they were up in age - maybe one mediocre album. I was surprised that it's come to this because all these guys have really matured as people and seemed to be real comfortable with each other but on the other hand I was surprised that they could handle all of the touring and stress over the last few years. They have it tougher than the aging Rolling Stones because the songwriting is more complex, they're playing at super high volumes and they're playing metal which requires a little more energy than all of these other aging "rock" artists. Next: Nostradamus was one of the worst theme albums I've ever heard. (1) A theme album needs to be entertaining even moreso than a regular album (2) It needs to be dynamic. It's a big borefest - it's like a really bad storybook. Lastly, if any one member of the band quits at this stage it would just be right to call it over. I'd rather have that than see four members try to limp thru a farewell tour w/o an integral part of the band. KK and Glenn have their own styles and sound and no one else can reproduce or mimic what they do.
[joedraper] Saturday, April 23, 2011 11:05:46 AM
And that's all I got to say about that:
Sorry guys 'n girls... Everyone who knows me here should know this is just my way of handling the situation with my quirky sense of humor.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:26:22 AM
I don't know or have not met anybody in the band,however I do know somebody that does and The "main influence" to Nostradamus is K.K.Downing 100%,that I know for a bold faced fact. It wasn't Rob,Glenn or Ian,it was all K.K.'s creations,sure Rob and Glenn helped ect...after K.K.'s idea was set in stone as to what he wanted to do with it,I'm not saying Rob and Glenn hate the album,but I do know that the album's fruitation and obsession with the album was K.K.,not Rob Ian or Glenn. As to what had happened and why K.K. retired and as to why he has had a breakdown in relationship with the band I absolutely have no idea.
Ok, Fair enough.
The bit I'm not getting is who had the main influence over Nostrudamus?
You say it was KK, but are you sure?
I'm quite happy for KK to retire, but surely AFTER the bands farewell tour is the right time!!!
Then whatever the remaining guys in priest do after that is up to them. Make an album do some dates whatever, but we are talking from their press release a Farewell Tour.
Edited at: Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:18:18 AM
[John Murphy32445] Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:15:41 AM
Ok, Fair enough.
The bit I'm not getting is who had the main influence over Nostrudamus?
You say it was KK, but are you sure?
I'm quite happy for KK to retire, but surely AFTER the bands farewell tour is the right time!!!
Then whatever the remaining guys in priest do after that is up to them. Make an album do some dates whatever, but we are talking from their press release a Farewell Tour.
Edited at: Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:18:18 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:40:31 AM
Yes I actually do in a remote way,yes but I can not and will not explain how in this forum. I don't know the reason why everything has happened but I know "some things" to make "some" of my assumptions.
Just wondering JD Diamond . If you've got any insider info or any info at all to which you're making these assumptions?
Edited at: Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:42:02 AM
[John Murphy32445] Saturday, April 23, 2011 5:42:32 AM
Just wondering JD Diamond . If you've got any insider info or any info at all to which you're making these assumptions?
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:36:16 AM
This isn't rocket science here,no we all don't know all the inside true information,but come on....either K.K. wanted to take Priest into Nostradamus territory again,or he didn't want another studio album,its that simple. We've seen and heard what an album is like without Rob...."The Ripper years". We've seen and heard an album that is K.K. based and controlled by him and Rob "Nostradamus" as Glenn hardly seemed enthusiastic about it at all. Now lets hear what Rob and Glenn will come up with. I'll bet money that an album with Rob and Glenn will smash Jugulator,Demolition and Nostradamus to pieces.
[Palmer Griffiths] Friday, April 22, 2011 11:39:21 PM
I don't mean any disrespect to your posting. I'm sad that KK has decided to call it quits but that's how it is. As for him being Cryptic I think him Rob ,Ian,Glen & Scott shouldn't have to divulge every sorted thing that they do. I think these people were more than band members,They were friends as well.Rob,Glen,Ian & KK knew each other for many years and just because they're world renowned and famous I don't think they have to be obligated to anyone to divulge everything they discuss or do behind the scenes.They're people like the rest of us and have a right to their privacy.They don't have to tell us every sorted detail about their lives. KK had his reasons to do what he did and I don't think it makes him any worse of a person for doing so.I think people are upset over his departure because the timing was bad because of the fourthcoming tour.Even if the other guys knew about I think they still have a right to their privacy.Again I'll miss KK and hope he'll come back one day because both he & Glen were such an influence on me to pick up a guitar..Good Luck on all your Future endeavors KK..
Downing: "There has been an ongoing breakdown in working relationship between myself, elements of the band, and the band's management for some time."
Why is he so cryptic? "Elements of the band". What exactly does that mean? Come out and tell everyone exactly why you refuse to go on and give Judas Priest a proud ending! There can't be a Farewell tour without KK Downing - NO guitarist is going to feel comfortable trying to hit Downing's licks/solos and it's not going to sound like Judas Priest.
And HALFORD knew all about this before Christmas!!! So he's been lying! Before and after Christmas he's been talking about this huge Farewell Tour and album and he knew all along that Downing had trouble with it all!
And Management is to fault, as well for not fixing this.
The whole thing stinks to high heaven.
[Brian_Evans] Friday, April 22, 2011 10:17:16 PM
No I'm not eating this up and hate to see him retire but thats just how it is. I respect your opinion though. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Friday, April 22, 2011 7:56:34 PM)
Budred wrote:
I can't speak for anyone but myself. For me it's more than just KK that makes me think they should give it up.
Since they re-united over a decade ago we've got one "good" album out of them. They aren't getting any younger.
They already announced only one more tour and then the KK release. To me it's been a downhill slide and I think it
would be better for them to just give it up. They may do more, but I wonder about the quality of it. I'll support them
by buying the next album and going to the show. If it sucks I'll stop supporting them. I can't imagine them improving
at this stage of their career if the next album isn't up to par. "Not the end of the world". Easy to say for a Maiden fan
but true Priest fans may feel differently. I get the feeling your eating this up.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Jeez there's a lot of negative people in here. Just because one member of the band quits doesn't mean they have to call it a day. It's not the end of the world or anything ..lol. I hope the band moves forward and continues on which I think they will. Edited at: Friday, April 22, 2011 1:06:21 PM
[Budred] Friday, April 22, 2011 7:56:34 PM
I can't speak for anyone but myself. For me it's more than just KK that makes me think they should give it up.
Since they re-united over a decade ago we've got one "good" album out of them. They aren't getting any younger.
They already announced only one more tour and then the KK release. To me it's been a downhill slide and I think it
would be better for them to just give it up. They may do more, but I wonder about the quality of it. I'll support them
by buying the next album and going to the show. If it sucks I'll stop supporting them. I can't imagine them improving
at this stage of their career if the next album isn't up to par. "Not the end of the world". Easy to say for a Maiden fan
but true Priest fans may feel differently. I get the feeling your eating this up. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Friday, April 22, 2011 1:04:56 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
Jeez there's a lot of negative people in here. Just because one member of the band quits doesn't mean they have to call it a day. It's not the end of the world or anything ..lol. I hope the band moves forward and continues on which I think they will. Edited at: Friday, April 22, 2011 1:06:21 PM
[Head banger] Friday, April 22, 2011 5:36:36 PM
sure it beats nost, but its not hard to do that. its a good album, lyrics could be better. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Friday, April 22, 2011 8:38:05 AM)
Budred wrote:
Demolition destroys Nostradamus.
I'm listening to "One on One" as I'm writing this. People always talk about wanting
"Metal". This album is "Metal"
If K.K. had the keys for Nostradamus and Glenn had them for Demolition then let Glenn
do the driving. At least this album is heavy. Do people hate Ripper so bad that they fail
to hear how heavy this album is? To me it's laughable.I like Ripper and I'm glad he
kept Priest going. He's no Rob and I'll never say he is but I don't think they could have
found "anyone" to "fill in" as well as he did. We should be grateful for him.
Rip away, it won't bother me. Edited at: Friday, April 22, 2011 8:51:19 AM
[seventongueXXX] Friday, April 22, 2011 3:56:33 PM
Downing: "There has been an ongoing breakdown in working relationship between myself, elements of the band, and the band's management for some time."
Why is he so cryptic? "Elements of the band". What exactly does that mean? Come out and tell everyone exactly why you refuse to go on and give Judas Priest a proud ending! There can't be a Farewell tour without KK Downing - NO guitarist is going to feel comfortable trying to hit Downing's licks/solos and it's not going to sound like Judas Priest.
And HALFORD knew all about this before Christmas!!! So he's been lying! Before and after Christmas he's been talking about this huge Farewell Tour and album and he knew all along that Downing had trouble with it all!
Stop the pessimism!
When Priest lost Dave Holland they got Scott Travis and wrote one of their best album in years. When Rob left, JP got Ripper and did pretty well then....Rob returned. Countless of other big bands have changed prominat players only to put out new and better material so give Priest and this Faulkner guy a chance; who knows, KK might rejoin at a later time but if not, KK gave us 40 years of his all and we should wish him well and look forward to new, young guitar blood in the priest machine. Edited at: Friday, April 22, 2011 1:45:33 PM
[Alli] Friday, April 22, 2011 2:05:35 PM
I for one I'm totally gobsmacked that KK has left the band. I'm still going to see em on tour but it won;t feel the same without KK. I've seen Priest live every tour with Bobby since 1981. I didn;t go until Bobby came back I couldn t imagine somebody else singing for Priest. No disrespect to this new guy but the same with him I'm dreading him standing in KK s place on stage. I hope KK comes back but I;ve got a feeling now he;s made his mind up that will be it. It won;t be the same without him I m just totally shocked.
[JayDee Jepsen] Friday, April 22, 2011 1:43:32 PM
Stop the pessimism!
When Priest lost Dave Holland they got Scott Travis and wrote one of their best album in years. When Rob left, JP got Ripper and did pretty well then....Rob returned. Countless of other big bands have changed prominat players only to put out new and better material so give Priest and this Faulkner guy a chance; who knows, KK might rejoin at a later time but if not, KK gave us 40 years of his all and we should wish him well and look forward to new, young guitar blood in the priest machine. Edited at: Friday, April 22, 2011 1:45:33 PM
[Brian_Evans] Friday, April 22, 2011 1:04:56 PM
Jeez there's a lot of negative people in here. Just because one member of the band quits doesn't mean they have to call it a day. It's not the end of the world or anything ..lol. I hope the band moves forward and continues on which I think they will. Edited at: Friday, April 22, 2011 1:06:21 PM
[Budred] Friday, April 22, 2011 12:49:03 PM
I can't agree entirely on your post but after the tour and album maybe they should call it a day.
My very first post on this subject pretty much said that. Knowing that they have been a part of my life
for over 30 years it hurts me to say it but in my heart that's what I believe. As much as I hate getting
older I am so thankful that I got to experience them in their prime as many times as I have. I read
about the younger people on here who love Priest and can only feel bad that they didn't get to
experience Priest back in the day. Man they were so freakin' awesome. My brother is a diehard Metallica
fan and always thought they were better than Priest. I bought him a ticket to Operation Rock and Roll.
Afterwards he was like "Dude, That was baddest concert I ever went to. These guys are the best live
band out there". I just smiled, I already knew that. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, April 22, 2011 12:13:11 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I think Rob and Glenn should quit touring all together,cancel the Epitaph tour and just record one studio album without K.K. and put everything they can possibly muster into this record untill they are blue in the face and then when they have the metal masterpiece,just hang it up and call it a day.
Let the Masters Of Metal step down for good and lay the band to rest. I can't possibly see the band live without K.K. I haven't seen Priest live since the 1988 Ram It Down tour and unfortunately I never will see them again,ever. I should of went to the Retribution tour but missed it,but then again who cares.
I just want one more last album thats awsome even without K.K. and then put JP to rest and bury them respectfully. Saxon will fullfill my metal needs from here on out,and I have other extreme metal bands to fill my heavy cravings.
Edited at: Friday, April 22, 2011 12:14:02 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 22, 2011 12:13:11 PM
I think Rob and Glenn should quit touring all together,cancel the Epitaph tour and just record one studio album without K.K. and put everything they can possibly muster into this record untill they are blue in the face and then when they have the metal masterpiece,just hang it up and call it a day.
Let the Masters Of Metal step down for good and lay the band to rest. I can't possibly see the band live without K.K. I haven't seen Priest live since the 1988 Ram It Down tour and unfortunately I never will see them again,ever. I should of went to the Retribution tour but missed it,but then again who cares.
I just want one more last album thats awsome even without K.K. and then put JP to rest and bury them respectfully. Saxon will fullfill my metal needs from here on out,and I have other extreme metal bands to fill my heavy cravings.
Edited at: Friday, April 22, 2011 12:14:02 PM
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, April 22, 2011 11:39:48 AM
I agree icecreamman, Demolition was definitely plagued by bad lyrics. I also didn't like the way that Ripper sang the songs. They definitely missed Rob's song writing ability and it showed. The music was great and I like Rippers voice, I just don't feel like the lyrics were very good and the way he sang them could have been dramatically improved. I certainly hope they bring Tom back and make it their heaviest album yet!!!
Bud, I've always been grateful to Ripper for keeping the band alive. It just wasn't Priest without Rob though. Ripper had talent for sure and filled in well for Rob singing the old songs. I just think he lacked in song writing ability.
Look man I love Nostradamus, but I am not going to say Demolition is bad either. Both are really great. If only Demolition wasn't plagued by bad lyrics. Nostradamus was great, but I don't want another album like it. I think it caught everyone off guard after AOR. I believe AOR would have been a masterpiece if it wasn't for Roy Z's bad production. It sounds like a Halford album at times.As for the next album, I say let Tom Allom produce it, and make it heavy as hell.
(I belive Jugulator is great too )
Budred wrote:
Demolition destroys Nostradamus.
I'm listening to "One on One" as I'm writing this. People always talk about wanting
"Metal". This album is "Metal"
If K.K. had the keys for Nostradamus and Glenn had them for Demolition then let Glenn
do the driving. At least this album is heavy. Do people hate Ripper so bad that they fail
to hear how heavy this album is? To me it's laughable.I like Ripper and I'm glad he
kept Priest going. He's no Rob and I'll never say he is but I don't think they could have
found "anyone" to "fill in" as well as he did. We should be grateful for him.
Rip away, it won't bother me. Edited at: Friday, April 22, 2011 8:51:19 AM
[Budred] Friday, April 22, 2011 11:04:06 AM
I was reading Leather Devil's post and feeling angry already and was trying to vent. (The old me)
I believe I've changed but I started to notice a backslide in my last couple of posts. I don't think I
posted anything out of line, I was just noticing (inside) that I was getting those feelings again. Yes
I have anger issues but I think I'm starting to have the ability to control them somewhat.
Whether he likes me mentioning him by name or not Jimmy had alot to do with this. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by icecreamman from Friday, April 22, 2011 10:05:45 AM)
icecreamman wrote:
Look man I love Nostradamus, but I am not going to say Demolition is bad either. Both are really great. If only Demolition wasn't plagued by bad lyrics. Nostradamus was great, but I don't want another album like it. I think it caught everyone off guard after AOR. I believe AOR would have been a masterpiece if it wasn't for Roy Z's bad production. It sounds like a Halford album at times.As for the next album, I say let Tom Allom produce it, and make it heavy as hell.
(I belive Jugulator is great too )
Budred wrote:
Demolition destroys Nostradamus.
I'm listening to "One on One" as I'm writing this. People always talk about wanting
"Metal". This album is "Metal"
If K.K. had the keys for Nostradamus and Glenn had them for Demolition then let Glenn
do the driving. At least this album is heavy. Do people hate Ripper so bad that they fail
to hear how heavy this album is? To me it's laughable.I like Ripper and I'm glad he
kept Priest going. He's no Rob and I'll never say he is but I don't think they could have
found "anyone" to "fill in" as well as he did. We should be grateful for him.
Rip away, it won't bother me. Edited at: Friday, April 22, 2011 8:51:19 AM
[icecreamman] Friday, April 22, 2011 10:05:45 AM
Look man I love Nostradamus, but I am not going to say Demolition is bad either. Both are really great. If only Demolition wasn't plagued by bad lyrics. Nostradamus was great, but I don't want another album like it. I think it caught everyone off guard after AOR. I believe AOR would have been a masterpiece if it wasn't for Roy Z's bad production. It sounds like a Halford album at times.As for the next album, I say let Tom Allom produce it, and make it heavy as hell.
Demolition destroys Nostradamus.
I'm listening to "One on One" as I'm writing this. People always talk about wanting
"Metal". This album is "Metal"
If K.K. had the keys for Nostradamus and Glenn had them for Demolition then let Glenn
do the driving. At least this album is heavy. Do people hate Ripper so bad that they fail
to hear how heavy this album is? To me it's laughable.I like Ripper and I'm glad he
kept Priest going. He's no Rob and I'll never say he is but I don't think they could have
found "anyone" to "fill in" as well as he did. We should be grateful for him.
Rip away, it won't bother me. Edited at: Friday, April 22, 2011 8:51:19 AM
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, April 22, 2011 9:23:38 AM
Props to KK for making an announcement. Although I'm still shocked about this, at least we now (roughly) know the reason and know that KK is OK with his health.
[Budred] Friday, April 22, 2011 9:15:13 AM
I think I need to chill.
My posts are tempered but all this K.K. news seems to be bringing the angry me back.
All I want to do is rip people right now. I gotta get this in check.
[Budred] Friday, April 22, 2011 8:38:05 AM
Demolition destroys Nostradamus.
I'm listening to "One on One" as I'm writing this. People always talk about wanting
"Metal". This album is "Metal"
If K.K. had the keys for Nostradamus and Glenn had them for Demolition then let Glenn
do the driving. At least this album is heavy. Do people hate Ripper so bad that they fail
to hear how heavy this album is? To me it's laughable.I like Ripper and I'm glad he
kept Priest going. He's no Rob and I'll never say he is but I don't think they could have
found "anyone" to "fill in" as well as he did. We should be grateful for him.
Rip away, it won't bother me. Edited at: Friday, April 22, 2011 8:51:19 AM
[Leather Devil] Friday, April 22, 2011 8:25:24 AM
Talking about sound, don't hope too much, if you don't want to be disappointed. Last time Glenn had the keys, remember what he did with. Yes remind you Demolition. If Nostradamus can easily be criticized, what could we say about this one ?
Second thing, till Judas Priest don't provides the means for an album, they won't do a good one anymore. AOR an Nostradamus ain't that bad, but ain't that good either. In my opinion, This stuff is just suffering of a lack of "soul". why ? because it's home studio made, a piece done in England, another in phoenix, but anything together. They would have need to share some time to work together, in a real studio, with some real technicians, engineers and producer. with more amps and microphones and less pro tools. Do you think it will change ? Well, i don't.
[Leather Devil] Friday, April 22, 2011 8:07:47 AM
Jimmy James, i could not say it that well, thanks. totally agree.
I think it is. The fact is the tour is due to begin very soon and the album is not due till 2012. They should get on with the tour with KK on board and he can step down afterwards before the next album is released, then they can tour that album with the new line up. If that's what they want to do. After nearly 40 years, doing a farewell world tour without your lead guitarist / principal songwriter / guy who started the band is inexcusable. Both parties should realise that what's important on a farewell tour is the audience. Surely they are old enough to deal with each other on a purely professional level. Everyone else has to work with people they don't like or agree with. It's not like they can't afford to get seperate hotel rooms.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I don't think its a "bunch" that can't get it together,I think its K.K. that couldn't get it together,either we were going to have no album or a Nostradamus type of an album....if thats true which I don't know if it is then I'd rather hear some new material from Rob and Glenn for one last album,what if the album is like Painkiller,or Defenders Of The Faith? Only time will tell,maybe it won't be as bad as we think.,but I do understand your point of view. LOL! I loved your earlier rant post Jimmy haha classic! lol!
jimmyjames wrote:
This situation is comical. If a bunch of 60 year olds can't get it together enough on a personal and professional level to record an album and do a tour they might as well all call it a day and give the people who bought tickets their money back ( as if that would happen ). How bad is the situation when the guy who started the band says "fuck it" and walks away? If Priest somehow make it down to NZ ( which won't happen either), I will not be attending the show.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 22, 2011 7:50:33 AM
The "sound" of the next Priest album MUST sound like "Priest" this is very critical. I think now that they have lost K.K. they MUST harken backk to the Painkiller album reguardless id Halford can hit the high notes or not,just his normal voice and the music on Painkiller would be good enough if the song quality is excellent and the songs themselves are excllent.....
Yah the sound itself must sound like Priest,there is no room for experimental anymore. I think Rob and Gleen can pull this off together man. Where is Hellrider!!!! Now we do need some in your face Judas Priest styled heavy metal because now nobody,not even K.K. is holding them back,the Priest will be unleashed once again if Rob and Glenn can pull this off!!!!
Man, everyone is entitled to their opinions and certainly you are too.
Me personally I hope it sounds nothing like Halford's latest.
Udo S. wrote:
I'm just glad he's ok after all the deaths in the metal scene lately.
I wish KK good luck and if he creates another "Nostradamus" I'll love it.
And I'm still looking forward to the Priest tour because I don't think KK's leaving will affect the show or the music much.
The new guitarist will have to fit in and play KK's parts - we'll just have to wait and see if he can but I bet he wouldn't be in the band if he couldn't!
We've still got the "original" 4 other members and in my opinion it won't be the same kind of desaster like when The Metal God left after Painkiller!
See you in Madrid and Colmar!
Hails from Germany,
Udo
EDIT: And I bet that the new album will be totally METAL as metal can be - just take a look at Halford IV!!! Edited at: Friday, April 22, 2011 3:12:01 AM
[Budred] Friday, April 22, 2011 7:18:56 AM
Man, everyone is entitled to their opinions and certainly you are too.
Me personally I hope it sounds nothing like Halford's latest. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Udo S. from Friday, April 22, 2011 3:09:40 AM)
Udo S. wrote:
I'm just glad he's ok after all the deaths in the metal scene lately.
I wish KK good luck and if he creates another "Nostradamus" I'll love it.
And I'm still looking forward to the Priest tour because I don't think KK's leaving will affect the show or the music much.
The new guitarist will have to fit in and play KK's parts - we'll just have to wait and see if he can but I bet he wouldn't be in the band if he couldn't!
We've still got the "original" 4 other members and in my opinion it won't be the same kind of desaster like when The Metal God left after Painkiller!
See you in Madrid and Colmar!
Hails from Germany,
Udo
EDIT: And I bet that the new album will be totally METAL as metal can be - just take a look at Halford IV!!! Edited at: Friday, April 22, 2011 3:12:01 AM
[Udo Sapper] Friday, April 22, 2011 3:09:40 AM
I'm just glad he's ok after all the deaths in the metal scene lately.
I wish KK good luck and if he creates another "Nostradamus" I'll love it.
And I'm still looking forward to the Priest tour because I don't think KK's leaving will affect the show or the music much.
The new guitarist will have to fit in and play KK's parts - we'll just have to wait and see if he can but I bet he wouldn't be in the band if he couldn't!
We've still got the "original" 4 other members and in my opinion it won't be the same kind of desaster like when The Metal God left after Painkiller!
See you in Madrid and Colmar!
Hails from Germany,
Udo
EDIT: And I bet that the new album will be totally METAL as metal can be - just take a look at Halford IV!!! Edited at: Friday, April 22, 2011 3:12:01 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 22, 2011 3:06:35 AM
Jimmy you may be right,I don't know the band and I'm just guessing here. Anything is possible when it comes to this lame news. Everybody has thier own opinion of what they want. Some want the band to hang it up and retire now,some don't. I want to hear one last real heavy metal album. And if K.K. is having issues with the direction of the band that leaves us to wonder what the next LP will sound like. If its total metal and heavy,this will lead to the belief that K.K. didn't want to make a heavy album,or possibly didn't want to make an album at all. We'll see though.
I think it is. The fact is the tour is due to begin very soon and the album is not due till 2012. They should get on with the tour with KK on board and he can step down afterwards before the next album is released, then they can tour that album with the new line up. If that's what they want to do. After nearly 40 years, doing a farewell world tour without your lead guitarist / principal songwriter / guy who started the band is inexcusable. Both parties should realise that what's important on a farewell tour is the audience. Surely they are old enough to deal with each other on a purely professional level. Everyone else has to work with people they don't like or agree with. It's not like they can't afford to get seperate hotel rooms.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I don't think its a "bunch" that can't get it together,I think its K.K. that couldn't get it together,either we were going to have no album or a Nostradamus type of an album....if thats true which I don't know if it is then I'd rather hear some new material from Rob and Glenn for one last album,what if the album is like Painkiller,or Defenders Of The Faith? Only time will tell,maybe it won't be as bad as we think.,but I do understand your point of view. LOL! I loved your earlier rant post Jimmy haha classic! lol!
jimmyjames wrote:
This situation is comical. If a bunch of 60 year olds can't get it together enough on a personal and professional level to record an album and do a tour they might as well all call it a day and give the people who bought tickets their money back ( as if that would happen ). How bad is the situation when the guy who started the band says "fuck it" and walks away? If Priest somehow make it down to NZ ( which won't happen either), I will not be attending the show.
I have to say straight off the bat, that as i got my first message and seing KK's name, i went cold. To read on and get the news, i was just relived to hear that , well u know , he is alive! I thought the worst, it was only a short time ago when i opened a message about Gary Moore, and well that didnt go down well i can tell you. I guess my message in all this is, lets not jump up and down about this. I mean yes its terrible, but i think, for me that is, after going through all the crap when Rob left, and Ripper joined , the fans , hmmmm well lets just say this. We all love our band, they have given us all since day 1. We dont need to know all the in and outs on this, cos its personal to the people we hold very close to our metal hearts. Let the people this relates to deal with it with our blessing, and hope that all can be happy with the outcome, then its up to us to except the news and show our selfs as the best and most loyal fans by supporting our band to the max!
I love Judas Priest , i love the music, and the people in it, and the people around it , to keep it going, lets all support them so it continues on, for as long as the guy's wish to do so!
If they tour Australia , ( PLEASE DO ) i will be there, just as i was when they came with Ripper, and again with Rob... Yes folks , in oz they have only played twice..... My point is get out there and support our band, and if your not happy with the changes , remember to respect the reasons for it and do not hang it on them.
I know and trust that all we need to hear on this will be given to us on this and Kens web site, i dont need to know anymore than that.
Ken, all the best to you mate, and what ever this is, lets hope it clears up, and you get to plesure us with your music, in what ever shape our form it comes to us in, as long as it comes, you are an icon that we are lucky to of known and seen...
Tyrant..
JUDAS FUCKING PRIEST
Never turn your back, on the Ripper! T.O Also Never turn your back on the Priest !
Edited at: Friday, April 22, 2011 1:04:26 AM
[Tyrant] Friday, April 22, 2011 1:00:47 AM
OMG!
I have to say straight off the bat, that as i got my first message and seing KK's name, i went cold. To read on and get the news, i was just relived to hear that , well u know , he is alive! I thought the worst, it was only a short time ago when i opened a message about Gary Moore, and well that didnt go down well i can tell you. I guess my message in all this is, lets not jump up and down about this. I mean yes its terrible, but i think, for me that is, after going through all the crap when Rob left, and Ripper joined , the fans , hmmmm well lets just say this. We all love our band, they have given us all since day 1. We dont need to know all the in and outs on this, cos its personal to the people we hold very close to our metal hearts. Let the people this relates to deal with it with our blessing, and hope that all can be happy with the outcome, then its up to us to except the news and show our selfs as the best and most loyal fans by supporting our band to the max!
I love Judas Priest , i love the music, and the people in it, and the people around it , to keep it going, lets all support them so it continues on, for as long as the guy's wish to do so!
If they tour Australia , ( PLEASE DO ) i will be there, just as i was when they came with Ripper, and again with Rob... Yes folks , in oz they have only played twice..... My point is get out there and support our band, and if your not happy with the changes , remember to respect the reasons for it and do not hang it on them.
I know and trust that all we need to hear on this will be given to us on this and Kens web site, i dont need to know anymore than that.
Ken, all the best to you mate, and what ever this is, lets hope it clears up, and you get to plesure us with your music, in what ever shape our form it comes to us in, as long as it comes, you are an icon that we are lucky to of known and seen...
Tyrant..
JUDAS FUCKING PRIEST
Never turn your back, on the Ripper! T.O Also Never turn your back on the Priest !
Edited at: Friday, April 22, 2011 1:04:26 AM
[the highway terror] Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:52:15 PM
It's sad that K.K. is leaving
but if the guy's made it without Rob they can soldier on without K..K.
Now I'm wondering what the new CD will sound like without him
[guidogodoy] Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:13:12 PM
I mentioned that 6:40 mark to someone just a little bit ago.
Quite telling, IMO. Saw it back then and immediately made the connection with the flamenco style acoustic / riffs used in Nostra.
I posted this earlier then took it down. I know it's reaching and not the case but listen around the 6:40 mark.
This was 4 years ago. Maybe this is where he wanted to go with music. Again, I know it's reaching.
[icecreamman] Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:03:56 PM
Please dont bring up that sick bastard. Dave Holland digust me. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:59:51 PM)
Head banger wrote:
damn straight
Budred wrote:
As well he should be the fucking puke.
Head banger wrote:
I think Dave is still "otherwise occupied" and will be for a couple years
JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:
I can't think of a worse announcement, next they'll be telling us that Scott has retired and they have rehired Dave Holland to play on the final tour.
I think Dave is still "otherwise occupied" and will be for a couple years
JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:
I can't think of a worse announcement, next they'll be telling us that Scott has retired and they have rehired Dave Holland to play on the final tour.
[Budred] Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:50:53 PM
As well he should be the fucking puke. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:48:27 PM)
Head banger wrote:
I think Dave is still "otherwise occupied" and will be for a couple years
JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:
I can't think of a worse announcement, next they'll be telling us that Scott has retired and they have rehired Dave Holland to play on the final tour.
[Budred] Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:49:46 PM
Listening to the solo at the end of that video damn near brought tears to my eyes.
They can't replace that.
[Head banger] Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:48:27 PM
I think Dave is still "otherwise occupied" and will be for a couple years [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by JT_Small_Deadly_Space from Thursday, April 21, 2011 1:38:36 PM)
JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:
I can't think of a worse announcement, next they'll be telling us that Scott has retired and they have rehired Dave Holland to play on the final tour.
[Budred] Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:44:00 PM
I posted this earlier then took it down. I know it's reaching and not the case but listen around the 6:40 mark.
This was 4 years ago. Maybe this is where he wanted to go with music. Again, I know it's reaching.
[doggiedogma] Thursday, April 21, 2011 8:20:40 PM
If it's true that KK wants to stop playing metal music and play metal muzak instead, then it's time for KK to go. At least we will always have "Sinner" to thank KK for.
[doggiedogma] Thursday, April 21, 2011 8:15:16 PM
WTF is going on in the JP camp? Who is KK having issues with? If management is the problem then get rid of them! If it is musical differences with band members, then what does KK want to do? Let's get some real answers here! THIS IS JP!
[Becks] Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:15:35 PM
Flora is in the same boat as me Spa, first time to see Priest (if they make it down this way!) and it'll be without KK
Great to hear from Rob!
I'm not out to bash anyone for a personal decision.
The timing is likely not as it seems. Priest didn't just pull a new guitarist out of their back pocket, this had to have been in the works for some time, and they waited to secure a new guitarist to formally anounce it.
Good luck to KK in all his future endeavors, and I must say I admire the fact that he addressed his fans today and explained why he was leaving. That does not happen too often in Priest, to get the truth up front, right after a shattering anouncement.
I'll still go see Priest, and be glad to do so. It will be difficult to see someone else standing stage left though. God, Flora is going to see them for the first time this tour and she really took the news badly. Almost as shocked as me.
IC, thanks. Nice to know more news came out while I was typing this. Good to hear from Rob.
(Quoting Message by Becks from Thursday, April 21, 2011 5:28:38 PM)
Becks wrote:
I agree, they should do the tour with KK on board, the timing is atrocious and it's all just very very silly (for lack of a better term lol). KK is a FOUNDING member of Priest, he should be there for the last hurrah. Even though KK has released a statement, I still get the feeling there's more to it, as surely they have been through so much together professionally (and personally) they could make it through this last tour and upcoming album together??? Hmmm....
jimmyjames wrote:
I think it is. The fact is the tour is due to begin very soon and the album is not due till 2012. They should get on with the tour with KK on board and he can step down afterwards before the next album is released, then they can tour that album with the new line up. If that's what they want to do. After nearly 40 years, doing a farewell world tour without your lead guitarist / principal songwriter / guy who started the band is inexcusable. Both parties should realise that what's important on a farewell tour is the audience. Surely they are old enough to deal with each other on a purely professional level. Everyone else has to work with people they don't like or agree with. It's not like they can't afford to get seperate hotel rooms.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I don't think its a "bunch" that can't get it together,I think its K.K. that couldn't get it together,either we were going to have no album or a Nostradamus type of an album....if thats true which I don't know if it is then I'd rather hear some new material from Rob and Glenn for one last album,what if the album is like Painkiller,or Defenders Of The Faith? Only time will tell,maybe it won't be as bad as we think.,but I do understand your point of view. LOL! I loved your earlier rant post Jimmy haha classic! lol!
jimmyjames wrote:
This situation is comical. If a bunch of 60 year olds can't get it together enough on a personal and professional level to record an album and do a tour they might as well all call it a day and give the people who bought tickets their money back ( as if that would happen ). How bad is the situation when the guy who started the band says "fuck it" and walks away? If Priest somehow make it down to NZ ( which won't happen either), I will not be attending the show.
Edited at: Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:09:56 PM
[spapad] Thursday, April 21, 2011 6:44:25 PM
Exit stage left KK. He will be sorely missed.
I'm not out to bash anyone for a personal decision.
The timing is likely not as it seems. Priest didn't just pull a new guitarist out of their back pocket, this had to have been in the works for some time, and they waited to secure a new guitarist to formally anounce it.
Good luck to KK in all his future endeavors, and I must say I admire the fact that he addressed his fans today and explained why he was leaving. That does not happen too often in Priest, to get the truth up front, right after a shattering anouncement.
I'll still go see Priest, and be glad to do so. It will be difficult to see someone else standing stage left though. God, Flora is going to see them for the first time this tour and she really took the news badly. Almost as shocked as me.
IC, thanks. Nice to know more news came out while I was typing this. Good to hear from Rob.
I agree, they should do the tour with KK on board, the timing is atrocious and it's all just very very silly (for lack of a better term lol). KK is a FOUNDING member of Priest, he should be there for the last hurrah. Even though KK has released a statement, I still get the feeling there's more to it, as surely they have been through so much together professionally (and personally) they could make it through this last tour and upcoming album together??? Hmmm....
jimmyjames wrote:
I think it is. The fact is the tour is due to begin very soon and the album is not due till 2012. They should get on with the tour with KK on board and he can step down afterwards before the next album is released, then they can tour that album with the new line up. If that's what they want to do. After nearly 40 years, doing a farewell world tour without your lead guitarist / principal songwriter / guy who started the band is inexcusable. Both parties should realise that what's important on a farewell tour is the audience. Surely they are old enough to deal with each other on a purely professional level. Everyone else has to work with people they don't like or agree with. It's not like they can't afford to get seperate hotel rooms.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I don't think its a "bunch" that can't get it together,I think its K.K. that couldn't get it together,either we were going to have no album or a Nostradamus type of an album....if thats true which I don't know if it is then I'd rather hear some new material from Rob and Glenn for one last album,what if the album is like Painkiller,or Defenders Of The Faith? Only time will tell,maybe it won't be as bad as we think.,but I do understand your point of view. LOL! I loved your earlier rant post Jimmy haha classic! lol!
jimmyjames wrote:
This situation is comical. If a bunch of 60 year olds can't get it together enough on a personal and professional level to record an album and do a tour they might as well all call it a day and give the people who bought tickets their money back ( as if that would happen ). How bad is the situation when the guy who started the band says "fuck it" and walks away? If Priest somehow make it down to NZ ( which won't happen either), I will not be attending the show.
I agree, they should do the tour with KK on board, the timing is atrocious and it's all just very very silly (for lack of a better term lol). KK is a FOUNDING member of Priest, he should be there for the last hurrah. Even though KK has released a statement, I still get the feeling there's more to it, as surely they have been through so much together professionally (and personally) they could make it through this last tour and upcoming album together??? Hmmm....
I think it is. The fact is the tour is due to begin very soon and the album is not due till 2012. They should get on with the tour with KK on board and he can step down afterwards before the next album is released, then they can tour that album with the new line up. If that's what they want to do. After nearly 40 years, doing a farewell world tour without your lead guitarist / principal songwriter / guy who started the band is inexcusable. Both parties should realise that what's important on a farewell tour is the audience. Surely they are old enough to deal with each other on a purely professional level. Everyone else has to work with people they don't like or agree with. It's not like they can't afford to get seperate hotel rooms.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I don't think its a "bunch" that can't get it together,I think its K.K. that couldn't get it together,either we were going to have no album or a Nostradamus type of an album....if thats true which I don't know if it is then I'd rather hear some new material from Rob and Glenn for one last album,what if the album is like Painkiller,or Defenders Of The Faith? Only time will tell,maybe it won't be as bad as we think.,but I do understand your point of view. LOL! I loved your earlier rant post Jimmy haha classic! lol!
jimmyjames wrote:
This situation is comical. If a bunch of 60 year olds can't get it together enough on a personal and professional level to record an album and do a tour they might as well all call it a day and give the people who bought tickets their money back ( as if that would happen ). How bad is the situation when the guy who started the band says "fuck it" and walks away? If Priest somehow make it down to NZ ( which won't happen either), I will not be attending the show.
[Becks] Thursday, April 21, 2011 5:26:29 PM
Ha, 60 something year old men are some of the most stubborn shits around I reckon, my dad and his mates can never agree on anything, you're right it is quite comical lol.
This situation is comical. If a bunch of 60 year olds can't get it together enough on a personal and professional level to record an album and do a tour they might as well all call it a day and give the people who bought tickets their money back ( as if that would happen ). How bad is the situation when the guy who started the band says "fuck it" and walks away? If Priest somehow make it down to NZ ( which won't happen either), I will not be attending the show.
[jimmyjames] Thursday, April 21, 2011 5:23:39 PM
I think it is. The fact is the tour is due to begin very soon and the album is not due till 2012. They should get on with the tour with KK on board and he can step down afterwards before the next album is released, then they can tour that album with the new line up. If that's what they want to do. After nearly 40 years, doing a farewell world tour without your lead guitarist / principal songwriter / guy who started the band is inexcusable. Both parties should realise that what's important on a farewell tour is the audience. Surely they are old enough to deal with each other on a purely professional level. Everyone else has to work with people they don't like or agree with. It's not like they can't afford to get seperate hotel rooms. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, April 21, 2011 4:48:00 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I don't think its a "bunch" that can't get it together,I think its K.K. that couldn't get it together,either we were going to have no album or a Nostradamus type of an album....if thats true which I don't know if it is then I'd rather hear some new material from Rob and Glenn for one last album,what if the album is like Painkiller,or Defenders Of The Faith? Only time will tell,maybe it won't be as bad as we think.,but I do understand your point of view. LOL! I loved your earlier rant post Jimmy haha classic! lol!
jimmyjames wrote:
This situation is comical. If a bunch of 60 year olds can't get it together enough on a personal and professional level to record an album and do a tour they might as well all call it a day and give the people who bought tickets their money back ( as if that would happen ). How bad is the situation when the guy who started the band says "fuck it" and walks away? If Priest somehow make it down to NZ ( which won't happen either), I will not be attending the show.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, April 21, 2011 4:48:00 PM
I don't think its a "bunch" that can't get it together,I think its K.K. that couldn't get it together,either we were going to have no album or a Nostradamus type of an album....if thats true which I don't know if it is then I'd rather hear some new material from Rob and Glenn for one last album,what if the album is like Painkiller,or Defenders Of The Faith? Only time will tell,maybe it won't be as bad as we think.,but I do understand your point of view. LOL! I loved your earlier rant post Jimmy haha classic! lol!
This situation is comical. If a bunch of 60 year olds can't get it together enough on a personal and professional level to record an album and do a tour they might as well all call it a day and give the people who bought tickets their money back ( as if that would happen ). How bad is the situation when the guy who started the band says "fuck it" and walks away? If Priest somehow make it down to NZ ( which won't happen either), I will not be attending the show.
[jimmyjames] Thursday, April 21, 2011 4:03:50 PM
This situation is comical. If a bunch of 60 year olds can't get it together enough on a personal and professional level to record an album and do a tour they might as well all call it a day and give the people who bought tickets their money back ( as if that would happen ). How bad is the situation when the guy who started the band says "fuck it" and walks away? If Priest somehow make it down to NZ ( which won't happen either), I will not be attending the show.
[Shadownight] Thursday, April 21, 2011 2:49:15 PM
Issad that KK retiredand did notsee himonthislast tour.It'ssadbutI have to accept.Iwas notso sadsincethedeath ofDio.Betweenastory andanother,I thinkso little time...Enjoy itas muchin each performanceknowing thatKKwill not bethere. Poor of me :(
[Alli] Thursday, April 21, 2011 2:44:46 PM
Bloody hell lol! Can't we have Les Binks instead he was mega!!!
[Marktheshark] Thursday, April 21, 2011 2:42:59 PM
I knew it!!! I knew that KK wouldn't just retire without doing one last Farewell Tour of the band he helped create!
The "breakdown with certain elements of the band and management" was obviously a creative difference over the direction and future of the band with Rob and Glenn.
I don't think this upcoming tour would be a Farewell tour if KK had decided to stick around. They probably would have done one more album/tour cycle and then maybe done a farewell tour in 2-3 years time.
I hope everyone is correct in hoping for one last killer metal album from them. Even though KK will not be on it, it will at least be a true "metal" album and not a "metal opera" like Nostradamus.
Glad to hear KK is ok health-wise. I wish him all the best and thank him for his many years of great music. I respect him for not doing the tour if his heart is not in it. At least we will get one last chance to rock with the Metal Gods and hopefully one last killer CD. \m/
Edited at: Thursday, April 21, 2011 2:45:14 PM
[JT_Small_Deadly_Space] Thursday, April 21, 2011 1:38:36 PM
I can't think of a worse announcement, next they'll be telling us that Scott has retired and they have rehired Dave Holland to play on the final tour.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:36:18 PM
I agree 100% HRMG. Yes Nostradamus was K.K.'s monument,baby,his creations and his interests,every time I heard interviews about the album from Glenn he didn't seem enthusiastic about it...and it makes us "wonder" if Glenn was into the album or not for everybody thats reading.
I seriously think that K.K. was into doing another album but not a british styled heavy metal album,I really think we were going to get something in the vien of Nostradamus,or on the flip side maybe K.K. didn't want to do another album "AT ALL" and wanted Nostradamus to be Priest's last LP with Rob and Glenn aching for one last heavy metal album? We'll never know,but our hunch is probably right,our gut instincts I'll bet is 100% dead on here HRMG.
That being said,I'm glad K.K. is out of the band,had he stayed there either would of been no new Priest album or a watered down Priest album. Lets be honest,I know some like the Nostradamus album but its not going to be hard for Rob and gleen to top it in writting a better heavy metal album without K.K.
This is why there has been a British Steel tour,and Nostradamus dragged out for 3 years ,and is why we will have to wait 4 years from 2008 to 2012 to get some "metal" from the metal gods.
I do thank K.K. for all the good albums and memories but hails to ROB HALFORD,GLENN TIPTON and IAN HILL for continuing Judas Priest. We are hungry for metal and if K.K. has to step down for us to get it,then so be it.
Well, it seems that KK is leaving for all the same reasons that Rob left the band in the '90s. I find that ironic since KK said back then he didn't understand why Rob left the band. It looks like KK wanted to retire and they decided to do the farewell tour, without a new album. Maybe Glenn and Rob talked KK into writing a last album and he just didn't want to do it - he wanted Nostradamus, his baby, to be the last album. Either that or KK didn't want the album to be as heavy as Rob and Glenn do. Mark my words, Glenn and Rob want to give us a HEAVY AS HELL BRITISH HEAVY METAL album. They want to go out on top, I have no doubt about that.
I'm sick and tired of this up and down rollercoaster ride with the Priest announcements!! If there is any other bad news, I'd like it NOW please! Crushing us with the farewell tour announcement and then giving us hope because you are writing a new album and then crushing us again with the news KK is leaving..... I can't take anymore!!
Edited at: Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:49:06 PM
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:02:11 PM
Well, it seems that KK is leaving for all the same reasons that Rob left the band in the '90s. I find that ironic since KK said back then he didn't understand why Rob left the band. It looks like KK wanted to retire and they decided to do the farewell tour, without a new album. Maybe Glenn and Rob talked KK into writing a last album and he just didn't want to do it - he wanted Nostradamus, his baby, to be the last album. Either that or KK didn't want the album to be as heavy as Rob and Glenn do. Mark my words, Glenn and Rob want to give us a HEAVY AS HELL BRITISH HEAVY METAL album. They want to go out on top, I have no doubt about that.
I'm sick and tired of this up and down rollercoaster ride with the Priest announcements!! If there is any other bad news, I'd like it NOW please! Crushing us with the farewell tour announcement and then giving us hope because you are writing a new album and then crushing us again with the news KK is leaving..... I can't take anymore!!
[Skybreaker] Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:31:17 AM
Very sad news about K.K. Downing. Just can't imagine this band on tour or a new album without him. Maybe he will change his mind and return.
[icecreamman] Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:25:05 AM
It is up there now. Thanks again. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by icecreamman from Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:23:10 AM)
icecreamman wrote:
I will wait a couple of hours. Maybe they can get things straight at the mill. Thanks for posting it here.
John Murphy32445 wrote:
It's there dude, front page.
Seems like there's too much traffic for the site it keeps going down.
Edited at: Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:16:24 AM
[icecreamman] Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:23:10 AM
I will wait a couple of hours. Maybe they can get things straight at the mill. Thanks for posting it here. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by John Murphy32445 from Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:14:30 AM)
John Murphy32445 wrote:
It's there dude, front page.
Seems like there's too much traffic for the site it keeps going down.
Edited at: Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:16:24 AM
[John Murphy32445] Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:14:30 AM
It's there dude, front page.
Seems like there's too much traffic for the site it keeps going down.
Edited at: Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:16:24 AM
[icecreamman] Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:12:48 AM
I don't see it. Everything at the mill still looks the same as it did yesterday. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by John Murphy32445 from Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:08:09 AM)
John Murphy32445 wrote:
http://www.kkdowning.net/home.html
[John Murphy32445] Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:08:09 AM
http://www.kkdowning.net/home.html
[icecreamman] Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:06:33 AM
It is with much regret that I will not be with you this summer. Thank you all from the bottom of my heart for your concerns about my health. Please rest assured that I am O.K.
There has been an ongoing breakdown in working relationship between myself, elements of the band, and the band's management for some time.
Therefore I have decided to step down rather than to tour with negative sentiments as I feel that this would be a deception to you, our cherished fans.
However I would urge you to please support the Priest as I have no doubt that it will be a show not to be missed.
All my love and respect,
on KK's steel mill site thought u might all want to see it. Can't believe he has left.
[John Murphy32445] Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:01:20 AM
I've already bought tickets with the expectation of seeing the Almighty Gods of metal 'Priest' for one last time as they should be, with KK on guitar. Gutted is an understatement.
[John Murphy32445] Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:46:45 AM
That is some heavy shit statement. I think the 'elements of the band' and management need reminding it's HIS BAND just as much as anyones and he SHOULD be there for the farewell tour!!!
[Alli] Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:40:22 AM
Just read this
K.K. Downing press release
Dear friends,
It is with much regret that I will not be with you this summer. Thank you all from the bottom of my heart for your concerns about my health. Please rest assured that I am O.K.
There has been an ongoing breakdown in working relationship between myself, elements of the band, and the band's management for some time.
Therefore I have decided to step down rather than to tour with negative sentiments as I feel that this would be a deception to you, our cherished fans.
However I would urge you to please support the Priest as I have no doubt that it will be a show not to be missed.
All my love and respect,
on KK's steel mill site thought u might all want to see it. Can't believe he has left.
[icecreamman] Thursday, April 21, 2011 8:59:40 AM
sorry about the double post.....
[icecreamman] Thursday, April 21, 2011 8:57:59 AM
Yeah I have the same felling. The next album will be the heaviest album they have put out. DONT piss Rob or Glenn off, IT WILL GET MASSIVLEY HEAVY! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:39:36 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
lol! Dude thats the funniest shit I've heard all day (lol) Dude totally,I hear ya loud and clear...ha your the only one else besides me who has the guts and balls to say some shit like that, tell it like it really is with the band lately(last 5 years)good for you jimmy I however won't be counting down the days till the next album comes out like I was before any of this happened but I'll sure as hell be interested in it the day it comes out so I can listen to it before I decide to buy it. If the album is top notch with quality songs we might all be suprised.
I really think now that the album will be HEAVY AS HELL,I really think it will be so that will be interesting the week its released,still can't get pumped up for it incase it turns out like a lemon,but Rob and Glenn are out to prove something. Looks like the downfall of Judas Priest was it's founding member these last 5 years.
jimmyjames wrote:
This band, more than any other, fucks their fans around and blatantly rips them off. What would everyone be saying if AC/DC announced a tour, sold a shitload of tickets, and then said "By the way, Angus has retired and won't be there but we've got a new guy who fits in really well"? Bite the bullet you fuckin' pussies and cancel the tour, call it a day and fuck off with at least a small amount of self respect intact.
[icecreamman] Thursday, April 21, 2011 8:57:59 AM
Yeah I have the same felling. The next album will be the heaviest album they have put out. DONT piss Rob or Glenn off, IT WILL GET MASSIVLEY HEAVY! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:39:36 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
lol! Dude thats the funniest shit I've heard all day (lol) Dude totally,I hear ya loud and clear...ha your the only one else besides me who has the guts and balls to say some shit like that, tell it like it really is with the band lately(last 5 years)good for you jimmy I however won't be counting down the days till the next album comes out like I was before any of this happened but I'll sure as hell be interested in it the day it comes out so I can listen to it before I decide to buy it. If the album is top notch with quality songs we might all be suprised.
I really think now that the album will be HEAVY AS HELL,I really think it will be so that will be interesting the week its released,still can't get pumped up for it incase it turns out like a lemon,but Rob and Glenn are out to prove something. Looks like the downfall of Judas Priest was it's founding member these last 5 years.
jimmyjames wrote:
This band, more than any other, fucks their fans around and blatantly rips them off. What would everyone be saying if AC/DC announced a tour, sold a shitload of tickets, and then said "By the way, Angus has retired and won't be there but we've got a new guy who fits in really well"? Bite the bullet you fuckin' pussies and cancel the tour, call it a day and fuck off with at least a small amount of self respect intact.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:39:36 AM
lol! Dude thats the funniest shit I've heard all day (lol) Dude totally,I hear ya loud and clear...ha your the only one else besides me who has the guts and balls to say some shit like that, tell it like it really is with the band lately(last 5 years)good for you jimmy I however won't be counting down the days till the next album comes out like I was before any of this happened but I'll sure as hell be interested in it the day it comes out so I can listen to it before I decide to buy it. If the album is top notch with quality songs we might all be suprised.
I really think now that the album will be HEAVY AS HELL,I really think it will be so that will be interesting the week its released,still can't get pumped up for it incase it turns out like a lemon,but Rob and Glenn are out to prove something. Looks like the downfall of Judas Priest was it's founding member these last 5 years.
This band, more than any other, fucks their fans around and blatantly rips them off. What would everyone be saying if AC/DC announced a tour, sold a shitload of tickets, and then said "By the way, Angus has retired and won't be there but we've got a new guy who fits in really well"? Bite the bullet you fuckin' pussies and cancel the tour, call it a day and fuck off with at least a small amount of self respect intact.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:05:47 AM
Yes, he will add you. Just go to my page and look at my friends list and click on him to get to his page and request to be friends. That is much easier than trying to figure out which of the multiple Scott Travis on Facebook is really him.
Oh you have him as a friend on FB? When I met him last year he asked if I had facebook but I could never find him on there LOL! If I add him will he accept?
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
I found this one VERY interesting..... (from Scott's Facebook page)
Scott please tell us i can't find anything on the internet...what's wrong with kk? why can't he tour this last time?:(:(:(:(:(:(
[Budred] Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:03:21 AM
I can't wait to read what he has to say. He may not deserve it be he surely should have expected it.
It's their last tour. Some may never have seen Priest and to expect him to be there for the last hurrah
isn't asking too much. I'm sure he has his reasons and they may be valid (at least to him) so I'm trying
not to bash him. My posts have shown disappointment but that stems from sadness.
I'm glad and appreciative for all he has given us.
To K.K., THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Udo S. wrote:
Well, there is supposed to be an official announcement from KK on his website later on today.
Personally I'll wait for what he has to say before I go over the top. KK doesn't deserve this kind of behaviour. He's done too much for the band for over 30 years or am I wrong?
Hails,
Udo Edited at: Thursday, April 21, 2011 6:43:27 AM
Edited at: Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:04:08 AM
[Leather Devil] Thursday, April 21, 2011 6:58:11 AM
Now, we need more details. Priest members really have to speak. We need the truth. Priest is not only a band, it's a band with 5 (4) members.
Whatever happened to KK, without any good explaination, I think they should have cancel the tour.
[Udo Sapper] Thursday, April 21, 2011 6:42:38 AM
Well, there is supposed to be an official announcement from KK on his website later on today.
Personally I'll wait for what he has to say before I go over the top. KK doesn't deserve this kind of behaviour. He's done too much for the band for over 30 years or am I wrong?
Hails,
Udo Edited at: Thursday, April 21, 2011 6:43:27 AM
[Budred] Thursday, April 21, 2011 5:59:08 AM
I posted a video but I took it down. Edited at: Thursday, April 21, 2011 6:12:45 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, April 21, 2011 4:58:11 AM
Its almost like K.K. has forgotton that " JUDAS PRIEST IS A HEAVY METAL BAND" and he was wanting to put out another Nostradamus type of an album? If thats the case which I honestly think it is,then Priest is better off without him! They are a metal band for christ's sake not a god damn opera laden band!!!!!!!!! He could of easily created "nostradamus" on his spare time while Rob is doing a Halford tour instead of golfing! "SIGH".
To Scott Travis if your reading: Sorry for all the negative remarks from all of us as we know K.K. is your friend ect... but its incredibly hard to accept the Nostradamus album as a Priest album and then wait for a real metal masterpiece for over 3 years and counting.
Yes its hard to accept the fact that the next album(If there is going to be one now) will be without K.K. but Scott's drums will be on the album(thanks for that) and Rob,Glenn and Ian too will be on it,if the song writting is good and the songs themselves turn out to be ultra classics this may work out well. Now....Hellrider is 100% correct....there is no room for tracks like Worth Fighting For even though I love the track,we need every track a scorcher,barn burner metal mayhem like Painkiller....
Yup, I'd have to say that my first guess is KK didn't like the direction the band was going in. So hopefully this means that the new album is in fact that METAL BEAST we are all hoping for!!!
Becks wrote:
Ok reading Eddie Trunks facebook (I know, some people don't like him, but he's pretty in the know and loves Priest) early unconfirmed rumours are pointing to the future direction of the band being the issue? Hmmm.
[JT_Small_Deadly_Space] Thursday, April 21, 2011 3:48:57 AM
This is really shit news I aint gonna lie it has put a downing on my week! Seriously though, yeah it really is shit and no one can replace him but we really don't know the situation yet.
But the way I look at it is, you have 4 of the 5 definitive members left, did Megadeth lose all there fans when everybody but Dave Mustain was different? No they didn't, even Guns 'n' roses still have fans.
Priest have Halford, Tipton, Hill, Travis and now Faulkner I say give him a chance he might breathe some life into Priest as they have lacked that recently.
[ptaskas] Thursday, April 21, 2011 2:21:53 AM
This is a shock to me. I remember last summer, watching interviews with Halford, talking about 2011 and Priest. And he said they were going to do another tour and more British Steel shows. Then that Epitaph announcement comes out of nowhere. Now this KK business.
KK is my favorite guitarist in Priest. Its going to suck now not seeing him on that left side of the stage. This new guy may be a guitar god, but it dont matter, cuz he isn't KK, and he isn't fuckin PRIEST. Now im getting that uncomfortable feeling, just like I had during the Ripper years.
I just dont understand how you can go on a farewell tour, without KK. I really hope this shit changes from now until the tour begins. I need that KK solo live during Victim Of Changes, and all his other amazing solos!
The epitaph announcement ruined my week.........this KK announcement has ruined all of 2011 for me, thats how much I fuckin love this band.
Paul
[Becks] Thursday, April 21, 2011 1:44:37 AM
Oh you have him as a friend on FB? When I met him last year he asked if I had facebook but I could never find him on there LOL! If I add him will he accept?
I found this one VERY interesting..... (from Scott's Facebook page)
Scott please tell us i can't find anything on the internet...what's wrong with kk? why can't he tour this last time?:(:(:(:(:(:(
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Thursday, April 21, 2011 1:39:57 AM
I found this one VERY interesting..... (from Scott's Facebook page)
Scott please tell us i can't find anything on the internet...what's wrong with kk? why can't he tour this last time?:(:(:(:(:(:(
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Thursday, April 21, 2011 1:35:31 AM
This is DIRECTLY from Scott Travis. I just checked his Facebook page and these are posts that he made regarding all the questions on his wall about KK. The fan page just copied them and posted them for others to see.
Scott Travis
part I ~
While I can certainly understand all the KK comments & questions, I make it a point to NOT try & get in the head of another man (Hell, spent most of my life tryin' that w women & STILL haven't figured anything out!)
MOST importantly, far as I know, no one is sick or dead.
part II ~
Point is, KK is his own man & he has made a decision. Let's respect it.
He's always been a stand-up guy w me, so I would assume at some point, if he feels compelled to do so, he'll release his own public statement as to his decision. Orrr, maybe not. I really don't know.
I will miss him.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Thursday, April 21, 2011 1:32:17 AM
Yup, I'd have to say that my first guess is KK didn't like the direction the band was going in. So hopefully this means that the new album is in fact that METAL BEAST we are all hoping for!!!
Ok reading Eddie Trunks facebook (I know, some people don't like him, but he's pretty in the know and loves Priest) early unconfirmed rumours are pointing to the future direction of the band being the issue? Hmmm.
[Becks] Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:39:43 AM
Ok reading Eddie Trunks facebook (I know, some people don't like him, but he's pretty in the know and loves Priest) early unconfirmed rumours are pointing to the future direction of the band being the issue? Hmmm.
Scott Travis
part I ~
While I can certainly understand all the KK comments & questions, I make it a point to NOT try & get in the head of another man (Hell, spent most of my life tryin' that w women & STILL haven't figured anything out!)
MOST importantly, far as I know, no one is sick or dead.
part II ~
Point is, KK is his own man & he has made a decision. Let's respect it.
He's always been a stand-up guy w me, so I would assume at some point, if he feels compelled to do so, he'll release his own public statement as to his decision. Orrr, maybe not. I really don't know.
I will miss him.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:28:44 AM
This was posted on a KK Downing fan site on FaceBook. I thought everyone might want to read this. It is from Scott Travis:
Scott Travis
part I ~
While I can certainly understand all the KK comments & questions, I make it a point to NOT try & get in the head of another man (Hell, spent most of my life tryin' that w women & STILL haven't figured anything out!)
MOST importantly, far as I know, no one is sick or dead.
part II ~
Point is, KK is his own man & he has made a decision. Let's respect it.
He's always been a stand-up guy w me, so I would assume at some point, if he feels compelled to do so, he'll release his own public statement as to his decision. Orrr, maybe not. I really don't know.
I will miss him.
[Becks] Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:27:49 AM
Fuck I hate all this negativity this has produced, it pisses me off and sorry but it makes some fans seem so so demanding where I believe we should just be grateful KK shared his gift with us all for so many years. I'm not going to bash the band just because of what's going on - I'm going to wait for a full explanation of the KK situation before I make any judgements. I honestly don't see the point in deriding Priest because of this, yes it sucks, and it has probably been a known fact for a while, but known for a while or not to me it makes no difference. KK has retired, but Priest will continue on with their last tour. It would have been so so easy for them to say 'fuck it, lets cancel our shows' but they haven't. Maybe I am just an optimist, but I'd rather be optimistic than shit all over the band I love above all others. Just my opinion, but I hate negativity (although I understand why) and slamming a band for something that was going to happen sooner or later anyway (meaning one, or all, band members retiring). The timing sucks, but if Priest come down to NZ, I will be there no questions asked.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:56:00 PM
I'd say that they have known for quite a while. Just how long? I don't know. And yes, if they sold all those tickets knowing about this, that is VERY slimy!!
I'm to the point lately that nothing seems to surprise me. Things have been going so shitty for the last couple months that I've become used to shitty news and people not doing the right thing.... I don't know how KK can just walk away. But if his heart isn't in it, then I say farewell. It's better to replace him with someone that WANTS to be there then to beg him to stay and have him drag everyone down. Just my thoughts at the moment.....
if they knew, and sold people tickets without telling them, then thats a slimy move. sure the band is 80% of what we thought, but 80% is not the same. the new guy might be great, but lots dont want a replacement. they should have learned that in the ripper years. at least then we all knew it wasnt rob.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
This gives new meaning to what Rob said when they announced the Epitaph tour in Dec. : "We have more to say but we are going to let this settle first....." We all thought they meant they were writing a new album was "the more they had to say" but that never made sense to me since that would be a GOOD thing. THIS was the other thing they had to announce - yes, I believe it's been in the works that long.
[Head banger] Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:20:19 PM
If it's been confirmed that K.K. is not ill, then it's OK to rant - the press release says "...Richie Faulkner has blended into the band perfectly, blah blah blah..." so exactly how long have they been sitting on this information?
[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:09:17 PM
(QUOTE) WE FEED FROM OUR FANS - JUDAS PRIEST ( EACH MEMBER OF PRIEST)( JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY METAL SPIRIT )
NOW LET IT RIP
[jimmyjames] Wednesday, April 20, 2011 10:47:44 PM
This band, more than any other, fucks their fans around and blatantly rips them off. What would everyone be saying if AC/DC announced a tour, sold a shitload of tickets, and then said "By the way, Angus has retired and won't be there but we've got a new guy who fits in really well"? Bite the bullet you fuckin' pussies and cancel the tour, call it a day and fuck off with at least a small amount of self respect intact.
I like Ripper and I'm glad he
I however won't be counting down the days till the next album comes out like I was before any of this happened but I'll sure as hell be interested in it the day it comes out so I can listen to it before I decide to buy it. If the album is top notch with quality songs we might all be suprised.