Yeah man, Volume 4 is amazing. I reckon the riffs at the beginning of Under The Sun and Cornucopia are the blueprint for what was to become Doom Metal.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Tomorrow's Dream
Thats total classic Jimmy I bought this LP in the early 80's and yeah thats totally fucking awsome,loads of good times listening to this album!!!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Monday, April 18, 2011 11:51:05 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Fuckin' Awesome.
Edited at: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:09:41 AM
[jimmyjames] Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:50:12 PM
Yeah man, Volume 4 is amazing. I reckon the riffs at the beginning of Under The Sun and Cornucopia are the blueprint for what was to become Doom Metal.
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, April 17, 2011 11:19:10 AM
Yeah, I wasn't saying that Sabbath weren't crucial in the development of metal music, just said that the weren't the only one.
Nvm, I'll stick my Paranoid vinyl in the stereo and hear the masters of metal.
Edited at: Sunday, April 17, 2011 11:19:32 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, April 17, 2011 1:07:33 AM
Also Black Sabbath were the first "metal sounding" band to ever tamper with an inverted cross shown in the inside original album cover of the debut LP even though it was actually the producer's idea,Tony and Geezer were obsessed with the idea and knew it would give them the ability to get an eye raise out of people back then,this really went along with Tony's dark doomsday riffs that seem to seperate themselves from Deep purple,Uriah Heep and Black Widow.
Black Widow had the lyrical doomsday and satanic approach but thier music itself was nowhere near any kind of metal orienated music,nowhere near the dark doomsday metal riffs of Black Sabbath which by today's standards would be called "metal".
You could go back to blues man Robert Johnson's song "Crossroads" about the devil to keep mentioning earlier satanic themes but this inverted cross inside the debut album 1970 with the riffs, lyrics and image is why I think Black Sabbath started heavy metal.
Without them beings what a huge influence they had on Judas Priest I don't think Judas Priest would have been flying the flag for heavy metal,I think they may of ended up playing Rocka Rolla styled electic blues/rock throughout the 70's.
I don't think Deep Purple,Uriah Heep,Black Widow or Pentagram would of influenced them enough to create Sad Wings Of Destiny with songs like The Ripper,Genocide,Tyrant and Island Of Domination that thrusted them into 1978 with Hell Bent For Leather and onwards. Like K.K. said that somebody said Sabbath were heavy and Priest were metal,it just needed Sabbath for them to define what metal is all about.
Edited at: Sunday, April 17, 2011 1:20:24 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, April 16, 2011 10:20:37 PM
Very valid point Nupe. However,Sabbath started in 1969 and while covering such tracks as Blue Swade Shoes ect...they also started jamin' the title debut track "Black Sabbath" and its just something about thier "image" too...
4 guys dressed in black wearing crosses singing about Satan,I know Deep Purple,Uriah Heep and the less known band "Black Widow" and Pentagram(but they were too underground to make a difference)also contributed to the movement..ect..ect...
Its Black Sabbath that was a turning point that years later you can actually hear "metal" in thier riffs but very primitive. Also again with thier (back then) satanic image and doomsday approach,this is why they "started it all" with metal,even though they didn't use the tearm 'metal" back then,years later we hear the song 'Black Sabbath" from 1970 written in 1969 with thier image and lyrics we can sense "metal" big time.
I can't say that about all the rest of the bands. I don't really hear "metal" in Deep purple,Uriah Heep,Pentagram,ect.... sure I get where your coming from with thier riffs ect...yes they belong in the movement but even though Deep Purple started BEFORE Black Sabbath they were nowhere near as heavy,doomsday-like or satanic orienated as Black Sabbath untill after Sabbath's debut they may of had a few tracks ect..but nowhere consistant as Sabbath was at these idiologies.
Again I can't stress enough the image and lyrics,there was just NO band before Black Sabbath that was the creators of heavy metal.
Venom holds the same torch for extreme metal as they created black,death,thrash and speed metal.Irritating or not I don't think in my opinion this is an "opinion" I think its fact if you put all the pieces to the puzzle together and analyze them all,but good points you've still brought up beings the other bands continued Sabbath's creations.
While I usually try to avoid arguments over the internet (as I like being a diplomatic person, who supports neither side of some issues), I'd also like to add my two cents here. I'm particularly irritated by someone saying that Sabbath "started it all" and were "creators of metal". Yes, Sabbath was definitely one of the heaviest, if not the heaviest band in '70-'71, with a large credit going to Iommi's downtuned guitar.
But there were also others that put out similarly heavy stuff in the same era, like Deep Purple or Uriah Heep. While most, including me, would nowadays agree that they're both more hard rock than metal (with Heep more on the progressive side), imagine being in 1970 and start playing In Rock or Very 'eavy, Very 'umble. Both have blistering first tracks in Speed King and Gypsy, and the whole Purple album is very heavy indeed (can't say the same for Heep's first effort: although the US version did have Bird of Prey in it as well, overall the songs are less heavier). Come '71, Sabbath would already have three very heavy albums under it's belt, while the title tracks to Purple's Fireball and Heep's Look at Yourself (Salisbury, released earlier that year was more progressive and only Bird of Prey and Time to Live could be considered "heavy") were blisteringly heavy at the time. After that, more and more heavy bands started to pop up, with the Priest lurking at the back as well...
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Very,very well said Jimmy. What you've said is ABSOLUTELY 100% correct. Everything you've posted here is "true". Also he should of created a Dio's Sabbath thread only because of his disliking for early Sabbath. He has every right to dislike the Ozzy years but creating a thread named The Creators of Metal and leaving out the Ozzy years is misleading. On another note,I absolutely can't stand the album 'The Devil You Know",it spanks of poor song writting. A very big letdown for myself when I heard the LP and knew I wasn't going to buy it. I don't even like one song on it.
jimmyjames wrote:
Well I must say that I don't know why you've created this thread then. Why didn't you just start a Ronnie James Dio thread and talk about his music in that? You've literally called the thread The Creators Of Metal - Black Sabbath and you are avoiding the line up of the band that actually did what you are talking about. The RJD era of Sabbath did not create metal. As I said before, by the time Ronnie joined the band in 1979 or 80 metal was already going strong. Priest had released five or six albums, Maiden had just begun, UFO had been going for ages, AC/DC were at their peak, The Scorpions had a few albums out, the list goes on. The albums that created metal were the first three Sabbath albums, self titled, Paranoid and Master Of Reality in 1970 and 71. Honestly, Black Sabbath is only Black Sabbath with Ozzy. With Dio the name is the same but the band and the music is completely different. Awesome heavy metal music but it's a completely different sound to the original Sabbath that created metal. I think the band realised this when they got back together with Dio and changed the name to Heaven And Hell. They understood that if they called it Black Sabbath people would be expecting to hear War Pigs, Sweet Leaf and Paranoid etc, because that's what Sabbath is.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Ozzys voice is just too annoying man...lol
jimmyjames wrote:
One of the great underrated Sabbath songs.
Edited at: Saturday, April 16, 2011 10:26:32 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, April 16, 2011 7:03:22 PM
While I usually try to avoid arguments over the internet (as I like being a diplomatic person, who supports neither side of some issues), I'd also like to add my two cents here. I'm particularly irritated by someone saying that Sabbath "started it all" and were "creators of metal". Yes, Sabbath was definitely one of the heaviest, if not the heaviest band in '70-'71, with a large credit going to Iommi's downtuned guitar.
But there were also others that put out similarly heavy stuff in the same era, like Deep Purple or Uriah Heep. While most, including me, would nowadays agree that they're both more hard rock than metal (with Heep more on the progressive side), imagine being in 1970 and start playing In Rock or Very 'eavy, Very 'umble. Both have blistering first tracks in Speed King and Gypsy, and the whole Purple album is very heavy indeed (can't say the same for Heep's first effort: although the US version did have Bird of Prey in it as well, overall the songs are less heavier). Come '71, Sabbath would already have three very heavy albums under it's belt, while the title tracks to Purple's Fireball and Heep's Look at Yourself (Salisbury, released earlier that year was more progressive and only Bird of Prey and Time to Live could be considered "heavy") were blisteringly heavy at the time. After that, more and more heavy bands started to pop up, with the Priest lurking at the back as well...
Very,very well said Jimmy. What you've said is ABSOLUTELY 100% correct. Everything you've posted here is "true". Also he should of created a Dio's Sabbath thread only because of his disliking for early Sabbath. He has every right to dislike the Ozzy years but creating a thread named The Creators of Metal and leaving out the Ozzy years is misleading. On another note,I absolutely can't stand the album 'The Devil You Know",it spanks of poor song writting. A very big letdown for myself when I heard the LP and knew I wasn't going to buy it. I don't even like one song on it.
jimmyjames wrote:
Well I must say that I don't know why you've created this thread then. Why didn't you just start a Ronnie James Dio thread and talk about his music in that? You've literally called the thread The Creators Of Metal - Black Sabbath and you are avoiding the line up of the band that actually did what you are talking about. The RJD era of Sabbath did not create metal. As I said before, by the time Ronnie joined the band in 1979 or 80 metal was already going strong. Priest had released five or six albums, Maiden had just begun, UFO had been going for ages, AC/DC were at their peak, The Scorpions had a few albums out, the list goes on. The albums that created metal were the first three Sabbath albums, self titled, Paranoid and Master Of Reality in 1970 and 71. Honestly, Black Sabbath is only Black Sabbath with Ozzy. With Dio the name is the same but the band and the music is completely different. Awesome heavy metal music but it's a completely different sound to the original Sabbath that created metal. I think the band realised this when they got back together with Dio and changed the name to Heaven And Hell. They understood that if they called it Black Sabbath people would be expecting to hear War Pigs, Sweet Leaf and Paranoid etc, because that's what Sabbath is.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Ozzys voice is just too annoying man...lol
jimmyjames wrote:
One of the great underrated Sabbath songs.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, April 16, 2011 4:26:25 PM
Johnny Blade 1978 Fucking awsome Black Sabbath
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, April 16, 2011 2:57:02 PM
Into The Void,total apocalyptic riffs and obviously shows the creation of metal from the creators of metal that started in 1970.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, April 16, 2011 2:45:43 PM
Behind The Wall Of Sleep 1970.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, April 16, 2011 2:45:04 PM
Whats even funny about "misleading"? God your so weird? Jeeze.
Well I must say that I don't know why you've created this thread then. Why didn't you just start a Ronnie James Dio thread and talk about his music in that? You've literally called the thread The Creators Of Metal - Black Sabbath and you are avoiding the line up of the band that actually did what you are talking about. The RJD era of Sabbath did not create metal. As I said before, by the time Ronnie joined the band in 1979 or 80 metal was already going strong. Priest had released five or six albums, Maiden had just begun, UFO had been going for ages, AC/DC were at their peak, The Scorpions had a few albums out, the list goes on. The albums that created metal were the first three Sabbath albums, self titled, Paranoid and Master Of Reality in 1970 and 71. Honestly, Black Sabbath is only Black Sabbath with Ozzy. With Dio the name is the same but the band and the music is completely different. Awesome heavy metal music but it's a completely different sound to the original Sabbath that created metal. I think the band realised this when they got back together with Dio and changed the name to Heaven And Hell. They understood that if they called it Black Sabbath people would be expecting to hear War Pigs, Sweet Leaf and Paranoid etc, because that's what Sabbath is.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Ozzys voice is just too annoying man...lol
jimmyjames wrote:
One of the great underrated Sabbath songs.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, April 16, 2011 3:02:07 AM
Very,very well said Jimmy. What you've said is ABSOLUTELY 100% correct. Everything you've posted here is "true". Also he should of created a Dio's Sabbath thread only because of his disliking for early Sabbath. He has every right to dislike the Ozzy years but creating a thread named The Creators of Metal and leaving out the Ozzy years is misleading. On another note,I absolutely can't stand the album 'The Devil You Know",it spanks of poor song writting. A very big letdown for myself when I heard the LP and knew I wasn't going to buy it. I don't even like one song on it.
Well I must say that I don't know why you've created this thread then. Why didn't you just start a Ronnie James Dio thread and talk about his music in that? You've literally called the thread The Creators Of Metal - Black Sabbath and you are avoiding the line up of the band that actually did what you are talking about. The RJD era of Sabbath did not create metal. As I said before, by the time Ronnie joined the band in 1979 or 80 metal was already going strong. Priest had released five or six albums, Maiden had just begun, UFO had been going for ages, AC/DC were at their peak, The Scorpions had a few albums out, the list goes on. The albums that created metal were the first three Sabbath albums, self titled, Paranoid and Master Of Reality in 1970 and 71. Honestly, Black Sabbath is only Black Sabbath with Ozzy. With Dio the name is the same but the band and the music is completely different. Awesome heavy metal music but it's a completely different sound to the original Sabbath that created metal. I think the band realised this when they got back together with Dio and changed the name to Heaven And Hell. They understood that if they called it Black Sabbath people would be expecting to hear War Pigs, Sweet Leaf and Paranoid etc, because that's what Sabbath is.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Ozzys voice is just too annoying man...lol
jimmyjames wrote:
One of the great underrated Sabbath songs.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, April 15, 2011 11:54:29 PM
Very well said JJ! I couldn't have said it better myself. I agree completely - the Ozzy years are the years that actually CREATED metal.
Well I must say that I don't know why you've created this thread then. Why didn't you just start a Ronnie James Dio thread and talk about his music in that? You've literally called the thread The Creators Of Metal - Black Sabbath and you are avoiding the line up of the band that actually did what you are talking about. The RJD era of Sabbath did not create metal. As I said before, by the time Ronnie joined the band in 1979 or 80 metal was already going strong. Priest had released five or six albums, Maiden had just begun, UFO had been going for ages, AC/DC were at their peak, The Scorpions had a few albums out, the list goes on. The albums that created metal were the first three Sabbath albums, self titled, Paranoid and Master Of Reality in 1970 and 71. Honestly, Black Sabbath is only Black Sabbath with Ozzy. With Dio the name is the same but the band and the music is completely different. Awesome heavy metal music but it's a completely different sound to the original Sabbath that created metal. I think the band realised this when they got back together with Dio and changed the name to Heaven And Hell. They understood that if they called it Black Sabbath people would be expecting to hear War Pigs, Sweet Leaf and Paranoid etc, because that's what Sabbath is.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Ozzys voice is just too annoying man...lol
jimmyjames wrote:
One of the great underrated Sabbath songs.
[The Metallian] Friday, April 15, 2011 11:12:38 PM
I love Dio,and the Dio/Sabbath albums,but I don't really care for the Ozzy Songs Dio sings on Live Evil,but love his own songs on live Evil.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 15, 2011 10:28:41 PM
I love Dio,and the Dio/Sabbath albums,but I don't really care for the Ozzy Songs Dio sings on Live Evil,but love his own songs on live Evil.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 15, 2011 10:27:27 PM
No,your being childish,because your extremely child - like.
I was "wrong" when I said nobody gives a shit about a thread you've created,because people are posting in it. You can 'never be wrong" even when 100% of the forum knows your in the wrong,you still won't admit it. That is being "childish" and it shows your being a Drama Queen. I even said you couldn't resist posting a childish comment and its shows your character. At least I admit when I'm wrong. That shows how much better character I have than you. Grow up Brian.
I'm quoting this post just to show everyone the stupid comment you made about this thread and now here you are posting in it. Not being childish but just stating the facts ...drama queen.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Nobody gives a shit about a thread you've created dumbfucking loser!!!
Brian_Evans wrote:
Children of the Sea - Black Sabbath
Excellent classic metal from the band that started it all.
[Head banger] Friday, April 15, 2011 9:16:24 PM
your right that when ronnie was in the band they were not creating metal, metal was well established.
they couldnt tour as sabath because sharon did not give them a release to use the name, and ozzy owns a part of the name. if RJD was singing, I dont know who would expect war pigs, but.... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Friday, April 15, 2011 5:57:23 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Well I must say that I don't know why you've created this thread then. Why didn't you just start a Ronnie James Dio thread and talk about his music in that? You've literally called the thread The Creators Of Metal - Black Sabbath and you are avoiding the line up of the band that actually did what you are talking about. The RJD era of Sabbath did not create metal. As I said before, by the time Ronnie joined the band in 1979 or 80 metal was already going strong. Priest had released five or six albums, Maiden had just begun, UFO had been going for ages, AC/DC were at their peak, The Scorpions had a few albums out, the list goes on. The albums that created metal were the first three Sabbath albums, self titled, Paranoid and Master Of Reality in 1970 and 71. Honestly, Black Sabbath is only Black Sabbath with Ozzy. With Dio the name is the same but the band and the music is completely different. Awesome heavy metal music but it's a completely different sound to the original Sabbath that created metal. I think the band realised this when they got back together with Dio and changed the name to Heaven And Hell. They understood that if they called it Black Sabbath people would be expecting to hear War Pigs, Sweet Leaf and Paranoid etc, because that's what Sabbath is.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Ozzys voice is just too annoying man...lol
jimmyjames wrote:
One of the great underrated Sabbath songs.
[jimmyjames] Friday, April 15, 2011 6:23:05 PM
I might also add the song Swinging The Chain, the last song from Never Say Die. I think Bill Ward sings that one too but it would sound a shitload better with Ozzy singing. Axl Rose actually sang a better version of It's Alright on the GNR Live Era 87 - 93 live album but I know you hate him so don't bother checking it out, I just thought it fitted in there with some of GNRs piano based songs more than it does on a Sabbath album. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, April 15, 2011 3:11:48 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Reguardless of what this Evans says here,and reguardless of what he will say about me posting in this thread (he can't control himself,he will have to say something because of how childish he is) I couldn't agree more with you Jimmy.
The 8 albums with Ozzy in the 70's tower over RJ Dio's 2 albums and I do like the Heaven And Hell and Mob Rules albums,they are totally awsome but the Black Sabbath studio albums with Ozzy are so much better than Dio's albums.
Sabotage is so good its unreal,even with 3 under-par tracks out of 8 albums and 8 years( the Changes song from Vol.4, the " It's Alright track and the She's Gone track from Technical Ecstacy all 3 are boring) those 8 albums "still" are much better obviously in your opinion and mine and obviously that doesn't make the albums better because those are our opinions but I sure as hell agree with you about the Ozzy albums with Sabbath here. Ozzy's vocals in Black Sabbath are anything but annoying.
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:21:14 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
One of the great underrated Sabbath songs.
Edited at: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:13:16 PM
[Budred] Friday, April 15, 2011 6:05:15 PM
@ J.D.
You two are not the only two that feel that way.
@Jimmy
I completely (100 percent) agree with both your posts regarding the "Creators of Metal" topic.
[Budred] Friday, April 15, 2011 5:59:11 PM
Ahh Jimmy, I do like you.
Quite possibly my favorite Sabbath song. Love "Megalomania" from that LP also.
Well I must say that I don't know why you've created this thread then. Why didn't you just start a Ronnie James Dio thread and talk about his music in that? You've literally called the thread The Creators Of Metal - Black Sabbath and you are avoiding the line up of the band that actually did what you are talking about. The RJD era of Sabbath did not create metal. As I said before, by the time Ronnie joined the band in 1979 or 80 metal was already going strong. Priest had released five or six albums, Maiden had just begun, UFO had been going for ages, AC/DC were at their peak, The Scorpions had a few albums out, the list goes on. The albums that created metal were the first three Sabbath albums, self titled, Paranoid and Master Of Reality in 1970 and 71. Honestly, Black Sabbath is only Black Sabbath with Ozzy. With Dio the name is the same but the band and the music is completely different. Awesome heavy metal music but it's a completely different sound to the original Sabbath that created metal. I think the band realised this when they got back together with Dio and changed the name to Heaven And Hell. They understood that if they called it Black Sabbath people would be expecting to hear War Pigs, Sweet Leaf and Paranoid etc, because that's what Sabbath is.
I'm quoting this post just to show everyone the stupid comment you made about this thread and now here you are posting in it. Not being childish but just stating the facts ...drama queen. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, April 07, 2011 3:57:58 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Nobody gives a shit about a thread you've created dumbfucking loser!!!
Brian_Evans wrote:
Children of the Sea - Black Sabbath
Excellent classic metal from the band that started it all.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 15, 2011 3:11:48 PM
Reguardless of what this Evans says here,and reguardless of what he will say about me posting in this thread (he can't control himself,he will have to say something because of how childish he is) I couldn't agree more with you Jimmy.
The 8 albums with Ozzy in the 70's tower over RJ Dio's 2 albums and I do like the Heaven And Hell and Mob Rules albums,they are totally awsome but the Black Sabbath studio albums with Ozzy are so much better than Dio's albums.
Sabotage is so good its unreal,even with 3 under-par tracks out of 8 albums and 8 years( the Changes song from Vol.4, the " It's Alright track and the She's Gone track from Technical Ecstacy all 3 are boring) those 8 albums "still" are much better obviously in your opinion and mine and obviously that doesn't make the albums better because those are our opinions but I sure as hell agree with you about the Ozzy albums with Sabbath here. Ozzy's vocals in Black Sabbath are anything but annoying.
Ozzys voice is just too annoying man...lol [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:21:14 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
One of the great underrated Sabbath songs.
[jimmyjames] Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:21:14 PM
One of the great underrated Sabbath songs.
[thekissofjudas] Wednesday, April 13, 2011 1:39:05 PM
The greates of all heavy metal history...but I am a woman, lol. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Wednesday, April 13, 2011 10:45:02 AM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
All three ...Dickiinson,Dio and Halford are total sick vocalist man!
[Brian_Evans] Wednesday, April 13, 2011 11:47:06 AM
Heaven and Hell
"Eating the Cannibals" from The Devil You Know cd.
Edited at: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 11:55:48 AM
[Brian_Evans] Wednesday, April 13, 2011 10:45:02 AM
All three ...Dickiinson,Dio and Halford are total sick vocalist man!
[thekissofjudas] Saturday, April 09, 2011 11:13:34 PM
I love Dio, I love Ozzy but Dio got the prize:
voice, feeling, technical skill, charisma. He was one of my Private Trinity of Singers: Rob, Bruce Dickinson and Ronnie James. There are also an amazing list of great heavy metal vocalist but they are the best of the best
[Brian_Evans] Friday, April 08, 2011 11:57:08 PM
Yeah the Dio years are the best, glad they got rid of Ozzy. Too bad they couldn't have made more albums with Dio.
[Head banger] Friday, April 08, 2011 11:20:18 PM
Personaly I know that ozzy era sabath was at the start of the heavy metal movement, i dont care much for it. Gillian and Dio are my faves [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Friday, April 08, 2011 9:42:47 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
You seem to be forgetting the Ozzy Osbourne era. Regardless of how great a singer Dio was and how good H&H and Mob Rules are, the Ozzy era is where it's at with Sabbath. If you call the thread The Creators Of Metal - Black Sabbath then logic dictates you would be talking about Ozzy's time with the band. Metal was in full swing and had been for a number of years when Dio joined the band. It was actually with Ozzy that Sabbath "created metal". Here's a song I've always liked from the end of the Ozzy period. Gypsy from Technical Ecstasy, it's a bit prog but still really cool. Technical Ecstasy was actually the first album I ever bought on cd.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Heaven & Hell - Neon Knights
[Brian_Evans] Friday, April 08, 2011 10:30:11 PM
Yeah Jimmy you're exactly right, it all started with the early years but to be honest I'm just not a very big fan of the Ozzy fronted Sabbath and thats why I haven't posted any Ozzy era vids. My first Sabbath cd was "Never Say Die" and didn't really care for it. I was totally stoked though by "Heaven and Hell", much much better in my opinion. Dio was a great vocalist and he also wrote excellent lyrics too.Feel free to post more Ozzy vids if you like, maybe i'll get more into it.
[jimmyjames] Friday, April 08, 2011 9:42:47 PM
You seem to be forgetting the Ozzy Osbourne era. Regardless of how great a singer Dio was and how good H&H and Mob Rules are, the Ozzy era is where it's at with Sabbath. If you call the thread The Creators Of Metal - Black Sabbath then logic dictates you would be talking about Ozzy's time with the band. Metal was in full swing and had been for a number of years when Dio joined the band. It was actually with Ozzy that Sabbath "created metal". Here's a song I've always liked from the end of the Ozzy period. Gypsy from Technical Ecstasy, it's a bit prog but still really cool. Technical Ecstasy was actually the first album I ever bought on cd.
Excellent classic metal from the band that started it all.
[Brian_Evans] Thursday, April 07, 2011 12:02:16 AM
Children of the Sea - Black Sabbath
Excellent classic metal from the band that started it all.
[Brian_Evans] Monday, April 04, 2011 2:26:54 PM
Top notch classic Sabbath
Turn Up The Night from Mob Rules cd
[Brian_Evans] Monday, April 04, 2011 8:29:27 AM
Top notch Jerk
[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Monday, April 04, 2011 2:37:45 AM) Edited at: Monday, April 04, 2011 8:31:58 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, April 04, 2011 2:37:45 AM
Yeah I know,its his bad karma showing through that he deserves for being such a stupid smartass to everyone all the time haha it keeps getting worse lol!!!
Ozzys voice is just too annoying man...lol
God your so weird? Jeeze. 
