You're welcome. Great question for them. I think 3 guitars would make for a great sound!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ACTUALLY I DID SAY IT HE SAID MY NAME I THOUGHT I WAS ON THEN I SAID IT AND HEARD LIKE ECHOING IN THE PHONE AND THEN AFTER I HEARD NOTHING I SAID HELLO HELLO ANYONE THERE.IT WAS FUC?ED WHILE I WAS IN THE STATE I WAS IN THEN HE CAME ON AND SAID SOMEONE WAS ASKING A SIMULAR QUESTION SO HE TOLD ME WHAT HE WANTED ME TO SAY COULDNT REMEMBER ANYTHING IT WAS GOING IN ONE EAR OUT THE OTHER.I ASKED HIM IF I COULD SAY SOMETHING ELSE VERY SIMULAR TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION WHILE MY MIND WAS GOING BLANK AND THEN GOT HUNG UP ON.
MY QUESTION WAS
HELLO PRIEST
I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CONTINUING WITH RICHIE YOU AND HALFORD ARE A MAJOR PART OF MY LIFE
ANY CHANCE OF RESOLVING YOUR DIFFERENCES WITH KK AND GIVING US A THREE AXE ATTACK WITH RICHIE KICKING IT UP A NOTCH BEFORE
THE NEW METAL MONSTER ALBUM IS RECORDED WITHOUT KK FOREVER
THANKS FOR THE TIP MAN I WILL KEEP IT IN MIND
DemonCat wrote:
I may have suffered the same emotions as you. However, what may have helped you at that time, and in the future, would have been to remember that the members of our beloved Judas Priest are no less human than we are. It was your placing them upon a pedastal that created the nervousness. I know it doesn't help now, but it may in the future, if you ever have another chance. Keep the faith my friend!
What would you have asked them, if I may be so bold?
(Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, October 05, 2011 11:38:21 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH MAN
JUST SPENT LIKE A HALF HOUR WAITING ON THE PHONE TO ASK PRIEST A QUESTION .THEN GUY COMES ON THE PHONE AND SAYS PRODUCER WOULD NOT ALLOW MY
QUESTION BECAUSE IT WAS SIMULAR TO ANOTHER ONE TO BE ASKED AND WANTED ME TO ASK SOMETHING ELSE THAT THEY THOUGHT OF. WHILE I AM NERVOUS AS HELL AND SHAKING, HAVING TROUBLE BREATHING THINKING I AM GOING TO BE TALKING TO THE MIGHTY PRIEST AND MY MIND WENT BLANK THEN THEY HUNG UP ON ME.
Edited at: Thursday, October 06, 2011 2:45:29 PM Edited at: Thursday, October 06, 2011 2:47:26 PM
[.] Friday, October 07, 2011 4:04:41 PM
I agree. It would make some of their material sound a lot fuller. I think I read somewhere that Glenn says that some of their studio work regarding their guitars cannot be replicated because there would have to be 6 guitars (?) on stage. If anyone knows the interview I'm talking about, or the reference, please post here. I forgot where I found it.
Hellrider, there will be other interviews and chances for you to call and ask them questions, I hope. Look around online.
[DemonCat] Friday, October 07, 2011 2:45:20 PM
You're welcome. Great question for them. I think 3 guitars would make for a great sound! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Thursday, October 06, 2011 6:42:20 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ACTUALLY I DID SAY IT HE SAID MY NAME I THOUGHT I WAS ON THEN I SAID IT AND HEARD LIKE ECHOING IN THE PHONE AND THEN AFTER I HEARD NOTHING I SAID HELLO HELLO ANYONE THERE.IT WAS FUC?ED WHILE I WAS IN THE STATE I WAS IN THEN HE CAME ON AND SAID SOMEONE WAS ASKING A SIMULAR QUESTION SO HE TOLD ME WHAT HE WANTED ME TO SAY COULDNT REMEMBER ANYTHING IT WAS GOING IN ONE EAR OUT THE OTHER.I ASKED HIM IF I COULD SAY SOMETHING ELSE VERY SIMULAR TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION WHILE MY MIND WAS GOING BLANK AND THEN GOT HUNG UP ON.
MY QUESTION WAS
HELLO PRIEST
I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CONTINUING WITH RICHIE YOU AND HALFORD ARE A MAJOR PART OF MY LIFE
ANY CHANCE OF RESOLVING YOUR DIFFERENCES WITH KK AND GIVING US A THREE AXE ATTACK WITH RICHIE KICKING IT UP A NOTCH BEFORE
THE NEW METAL MONSTER ALBUM IS RECORDED WITHOUT KK FOREVER
THANKS FOR THE TIP MAN I WILL KEEP IT IN MIND
DemonCat wrote:
I may have suffered the same emotions as you. However, what may have helped you at that time, and in the future, would have been to remember that the members of our beloved Judas Priest are no less human than we are. It was your placing them upon a pedastal that created the nervousness. I know it doesn't help now, but it may in the future, if you ever have another chance. Keep the faith my friend!
What would you have asked them, if I may be so bold?
(Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, October 05, 2011 11:38:21 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH MAN
JUST SPENT LIKE A HALF HOUR WAITING ON THE PHONE TO ASK PRIEST A QUESTION .THEN GUY COMES ON THE PHONE AND SAYS PRODUCER WOULD NOT ALLOW MY
QUESTION BECAUSE IT WAS SIMULAR TO ANOTHER ONE TO BE ASKED AND WANTED ME TO ASK SOMETHING ELSE THAT THEY THOUGHT OF. WHILE I AM NERVOUS AS HELL AND SHAKING, HAVING TROUBLE BREATHING THINKING I AM GOING TO BE TALKING TO THE MIGHTY PRIEST AND MY MIND WENT BLANK THEN THEY HUNG UP ON ME.
Edited at: Thursday, October 06, 2011 2:45:29 PM Edited at: Thursday, October 06, 2011 2:47:26 PM
[hellrider 31038] Thursday, October 06, 2011 6:42:20 PM
ACTUALLY I DID SAY IT HE SAID MY NAME I THOUGHT I WAS ON THEN I SAID IT AND HEARD LIKE ECHOING IN THE PHONE AND THEN AFTER I HEARD NOTHING I SAID HELLO HELLO ANYONE THERE.IT WAS FUC?ED WHILE I WAS IN THE STATE I WAS IN THEN HE CAME ON AND SAID SOMEONE WAS ASKING A SIMULAR QUESTION SO HE TOLD ME WHAT HE WANTED ME TO SAY COULDNT REMEMBER ANYTHING IT WAS GOING IN ONE EAR OUT THE OTHER.I ASKED HIM IF I COULD SAY SOMETHING ELSE VERY SIMULAR TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION WHILE MY MIND WAS GOING BLANK AND THEN GOT HUNG UP ON.
MY QUESTION WAS
HELLO PRIEST
I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CONTINUING WITH RICHIE YOU AND HALFORD ARE A MAJOR PART OF MY LIFE
ANY CHANCE OF RESOLVING YOUR DIFFERENCES WITH KK AND GIVING US A THREE AXE ATTACK WITH RICHIE KICKING IT UP A NOTCH BEFORE
THE NEW METAL MONSTER ALBUM IS RECORDED WITHOUT KK FOREVER
I may have suffered the same emotions as you. However, what may have helped you at that time, and in the future, would have been to remember that the members of our beloved Judas Priest are no less human than we are. It was your placing them upon a pedastal that created the nervousness. I know it doesn't help now, but it may in the future, if you ever have another chance. Keep the faith my friend!
What would you have asked them, if I may be so bold?
(Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, October 05, 2011 11:38:21 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH MAN
JUST SPENT LIKE A HALF HOUR WAITING ON THE PHONE TO ASK PRIEST A QUESTION .THEN GUY COMES ON THE PHONE AND SAYS PRODUCER WOULD NOT ALLOW MY
QUESTION BECAUSE IT WAS SIMULAR TO ANOTHER ONE TO BE ASKED AND WANTED ME TO ASK SOMETHING ELSE THAT THEY THOUGHT OF. WHILE I AM NERVOUS AS HELL AND SHAKING, HAVING TROUBLE BREATHING THINKING I AM GOING TO BE TALKING TO THE MIGHTY PRIEST AND MY MIND WENT BLANK THEN THEY HUNG UP ON ME.
Edited at: Thursday, October 06, 2011 2:45:29 PM Edited at: Thursday, October 06, 2011 2:47:26 PM
[DemonCat] Thursday, October 06, 2011 2:44:13 PM
I may have suffered the same emotions as you. However, what may have helped you at that time, and in the future, would have been to remember that the members of our beloved Judas Priest are no less human than we are. It was your placing them upon a pedastal that created the nervousness. I know it doesn't help now, but it may in the future, if you ever have another chance. Keep the faith my friend!
What would you have asked them, if I may be so bold?
JUST SPENT LIKE A HALF HOUR WAITING ON THE PHONE TO ASK PRIEST A QUESTION .THEN GUY COMES ON THE PHONE AND SAYS PRODUCER WOULD NOT ALLOW MY
QUESTION BECAUSE IT WAS SIMULAR TO ANOTHER ONE TO BE ASKED AND WANTED ME TO ASK SOMETHING ELSE THAT THEY THOUGHT OF. WHILE I AM NERVOUS AS HELL AND SHAKING, HAVING TROUBLE BREATHING THINKING I AM GOING TO BE TALKING TO THE MIGHTY PRIEST AND MY MIND WENT BLANK THEN THEY HUNG UP ON ME.
Edited at: Thursday, October 06, 2011 2:45:29 PM Edited at: Thursday, October 06, 2011 2:47:26 PM
[DemonCat] Thursday, October 06, 2011 2:35:45 PM
It's too easy to turn my back on the world...and moon everyone in it! However, I thank God that I have Jesus' strength in me to resist! For surely, I find that the "world" finds it easy to turn it's back on me, with the exception of a few who choose to suffer with me. I thank those for their support, friendship, and love! But, that's too easy to do. Truelly...I thank those who turned their backs...It made me turn to God! Edited at: Thursday, October 06, 2011 2:37:35 PM
JUST SPENT LIKE A HALF HOUR WAITING ON THE PHONE TO ASK PRIEST A QUESTION .THEN GUY COMES ON THE PHONE AND SAYS PRODUCER WOULD NOT ALLOW MY
QUESTION BECAUSE IT WAS SIMULAR TO ANOTHER ONE TO BE ASKED AND WANTED ME TO ASK SOMETHING ELSE THAT THEY THOUGHT OF. WHILE I AM NERVOUS AS HELL AND SHAKING, HAVING TROUBLE BREATHING THINKING I AM GOING TO BE TALKING TO THE MIGHTY PRIEST AND MY MIND WENT BLANK THEN THEY HUNG UP ON ME.
[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, October 05, 2011 11:38:21 PM
YEAH MAN
JUST SPENT LIKE A HALF HOUR WAITING ON THE PHONE TO ASK PRIEST A QUESTION .THEN GUY COMES ON THE PHONE AND SAYS PRODUCER WOULD NOT ALLOW MY
QUESTION BECAUSE IT WAS SIMULAR TO ANOTHER ONE TO BE ASKED AND WANTED ME TO ASK SOMETHING ELSE THAT THEY THOUGHT OF. WHILE I AM NERVOUS AS HELL AND SHAKING, HAVING TROUBLE BREATHING THINKING I AM GOING TO BE TALKING TO THE MIGHTY PRIEST AND MY MIND WENT BLANK THEN THEY HUNG UP ON ME.
[Mr. Dave Genocide] Monday, October 03, 2011 10:47:15 PM
Biggest thing pissing me off: STILL no date for Minnesota, at all!!? What the hell is going on!? Not even a Wisconsin show, either... F*ck going to Missouri.. And still not 21, so no Illinois show for me... This sucks!! C'mon Priest, you did 2 shows during your 'British Steel Anniversarry' tour here in MN, give us something now!
[Vaillant 3.0] Monday, October 03, 2011 7:22:12 PM
Winged termites, winged termites everywhere!!!
[Ears from Outer Space] Sunday, October 02, 2011 11:08:10 PM
Building products these days are just not what they use to be. I'm tired of going to places like Home Depot and paying good money and the stuff turns out like crap. It's really getting on my nerves big time. They should be held accountable for some of the crap they sell.
Ears
[hellrider 31038] Sunday, October 02, 2011 8:49:19 PM
I´m so angry and want everybody to understand that life is not just rock n roll, party and judas priest!
There are certain things that need to be said:
In asia they have somthing called bearfarms. In these farms bears are keep for their whole life, maybe for 25 years.
The bears are kept there to be used as living sacrifices to the industry of bear biling. They do surgical operations on the poor animals bodys and drain them of bile - WITHOUT any form of sedation.
They are kept in tiny cages for years without relief!
Think for yourself - how would it feel to be looked up for the rest of your life in a cage that is circa 4 times 3 feet and everyday have to go through surgery WITHOUT sedation everyday, never to be able to kill yourself to get away.
I know what you are thinking! What has this to do with Judas Priest?
Well, first - is something, anything pissing you up, say it here...
Secondly - this is so important that I really don´t give a damn!
Look at this clips and if you have a heart - do something about it!
If you can buy yourself knick-knacks and shit every single day - you can put some of that to help animals instead!
Thanks to all who cares!
Edited at: Friday, September 16, 2011 10:53:47 AM
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, October 02, 2011 6:37:02 PM
Thanks, that was an interesting read. For once someone wrote about the matter in a neutral way, instead of accusing either side.
Thanks also for reminding me about the correct technological terms - for a non-native speaker it's not always easy to figure out the correct ones. From now on I won't use "rip" when talking about simple digitizing of analog material.
The addition of this "anti-piracy" system to ISP EULAs is just another example of corporations trampling on human rights to further extend their status and generate even more money to themselves. By doing this they're only making themselves look ridiculous again. Instead of combating the actual crime (the ones who share the files; like I said earlier you can find numerous sources with even a simple Google search), they're attacking the downloaders by severely limiting their privacy. In fact, while in Finland the ISPs aren't (yet) allowed to do that, a recently-passed law now allows for the police to remotelycrack into your computer, bypassing/deactivating any security features on it, if you're even suspected of any sort of crime. Previously that was only allowed in serious crimes and only with a special permission by the attorney.
NTSC v. PAL made sense back in the day when the appliances could only use one format, but nowadays most of them can use both formats. It's current purpose is, like the DVD region codes, only to increase sales.
I also don't believe that piracy is a key factor in Priest releasing compilations. Maybe they have a contrast clause that says "release X amount of albums", and because they're unlikely to release more than a couple of albums worth of new material anymore, they use compilations to fill in. Or then Sony noticed that "hey Judas Priest is getting popular again, why not capitalize on it?".
Edited at: Sunday, October 02, 2011 6:51:28 PM
[guidogodoy] Saturday, October 01, 2011 5:16:35 PM
Interesting to know about the Finnish copyright laws, Nupe. Like I said, I really couldn't speak about them. I would think that any problems you'd have would come from within Finland, though. Not really what I was describing with the US and Canada being so heavy-handed about file sharing vis a vis the new EULA "voluntarily giving up Constitutional rights" (no other way to phrase it, really, as they aren't laws). While the US and Canada have an open agreement now to turn over any violator, it isn't currently so with most nations. That is why many tapers who are sharing shows will be explicit in saying "don't share this with any other person from, say, Brazil" for example. Piracy or, even worse as you say the SELLING of shows is just too rampant. It IS moving that direction, though. Why people are still allowed to sell downloaded shows on eBay is just beyond me. True scum, as you say.
You still aren't technically "ripping" when you convert a VHS to DVD, though. Like I said, that is more a conversion / transcode by definition as there is no security you are bypassing. You "rip" a movie, for example when you make a copy as you are "ripping" the CSS protection as well as the many devices that prohibit you from fast-forwarding over the previews as I am sure you know.
For the record, when I made my own backup copy of the NTSC version of the VHS, it was for the exact same reason. Didn't want the tape to degrade. I used an external firewire Pinnacle system converter and it turned out very nicely. Especially when I put in the menus. Curious part? I would not be able to legally share it with you as US / Canada law specifically prohibits me (with a legal version of the tape / legal version of the digitized version of the tape) to share it with you (who also owns a legal version of the tape). Why? NTSC vs. PAL!! Does that suck or what?
Don't get me started on the Region Code Nazi's!!
Want an interesting read? Try Quinn Norton's comments on Pirate Bay in the link below. I love the way she writes. She makes some very interesting points about Sweden and the Netherlands and THEIR laws.
I originally took that digital copy only for myself as well, but then I thought "it's been out of print for 17 years, the band and the record label are no longer receiving any money from it's sales, and no DVD reissue is in sight (and probably never will)". So, I then decided to upload it. I had previously shared a few out-of-print single B-sides on my site, but when the Single Cuts boxset was announced, I immediately removed them as an official CD release was to be soon available. I would do exactly the same if the Metal Works VHS received a reissue in any form. And no, the Finnish copyright laws aren't any more relaxed than in the USA, but so far I've avoided any trouble.
I love the band and am usually against sharing official material over the internet. If someone puts their whole official discography/videography (that you can easily buy legally from anywhere) on the net (just Google search and you get tons of results), I loathe it. If someone sells bootlegs, I loathe it as well. But if someone shares a release that's been out-of print for over a decade, the band no longer receives any money from it (as all the copies on the market are second-hand) and it isn't receiving a reissue anytime soon, let's just say that I won't feel too bad about it. I did think about putting the VHS-rip on the web for quite a while, but if it offends the other fans too much, I can still remove it. Would only take a couple of minutes, it's a pretty crappy rip anyway...
Oh and J.D. Diamond, I'm not going to buy the Chosen Few, even though I bought the Single Cuts boxset. That compilation offers nothing new to me, unlike the boxset which at least has single B-sides I couldn't have gotten before because of my young age (and lack of funds - old vinyl singles are pretty expensive these days).That's why I haven't bought any Judas Priest compilations at all - I could always make the exact same compilation from the albums I've already bought.
guidogodoy wrote:
Like I said, I am with you about the dubious reason as to why Priest is releasing these new "Best of" albums. Certainly isn't because of illegal downloading, to be sure.
The rule that is has been the norm (in both the US and Canada) is that you can legally "transcode" a video / music you legally own. It has always been the case and a major reason as to why the digital media rights mafia hasn't been able to go all that far in either country (they do not just govern one country, they claim to "protect" all intellectual property worldwide). Big problem was CSS - the original "scramble" protection code. THAT was made illegal. They shut down many an international site that either sold or gave away a DE-CSS program (i.e. rip). Odd rule. You could, in theory, own a copy of the same movie or album for personal use on various devices (iPhone, PSP, backup) but it was / is illegal to circumvent the CSS code. Go figger. Look at the debate over Pirate Bay for a good discussion of the subject.
Exactly why a great many movies, albums and games have gone "protection-free." Canada is just now making a show about a law that is already on the books.
Nupe's comment about "ripping" JP's "Metal Works" is a misnomer. He transcoded it from one format to another. I own the NTSC version of it and digitized it years ago. It never had protection, thus, perfectly legal for me to make a backup. NOT legal (in the US...Finland is another case) to share it openly as it is copyrighted material. In certain countries, though. That is why many servers have moved to more "share friendly" countries that are out of reach of current international law.
Head banger wrote:
canada just changed or is planning to change the copyright act to permit any use of a song, as long as you dont have to break a digital lock. interesting, all this downloading crap is a pain.
I dont see how priest is making money to replace downloading with more stuff that could easily be downloaded. we have all these songs, rip them in the right order
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry. Don't buy that argument at all. While there is no doubt that downloading (both legal and illegal) has changed the old school music economic model, you don't exactly go and buy a golf course because you are poor.
It completely flew under the radar of most in the US but there was a recent "major win" by those groups that not only try to stop but actually persecute those who violate the many acts and laws that are out to protect Digital Media Rights.
The freelance writer and consumer advocate for a "fair use" policy, Quinn Norton, recently released a bombshell in the trade rags such as "Wired" and MaxPC magazines. It slipped by in the form of an EULA (end user license agreement) that the big 5 internet providers formed. Basically, with no laws, most have now signed away their rights without knowing it simply by using their internet provider. They track you with even the suspicion of an illegal download and your company "dings" you. A few "dings" and you are forced to go through an online class before you are granted full internet access again. Your acct flagged a second time? Possible ban from use and lawsuits.
This is now going worldwide. Write your Congressman? Nope. No laws have been passed. Just your own ISP's EULA. Good luck to the tech neophytes and, oh yes, the idiot here recently boasting about "Limewire" (Gnutella), Frostwire (same access, dope), and even the torrent clients.
Nope. As you can tell, I don't buy that argument at all. It died with the Shitallica round of lawsuits back in 2006.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
PERHAPS THEY ARE TRYING TO GET BACK IN A HONEST WAY THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FUUUCCC??????EEEEENNNNNNNNNN RIPED OFF FROM THEM AND (OUR METAL FAITH) WITH ILLEGAL DOWNLOADING J.D DIAMOND THE COMMANDER.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, September 30, 2011 5:03:03 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
People who bought the single cuts are probably going to buy "The Chosen Few" which turns my stomach just typing this...."The Chosen Few"....oohhhh "other metal artists chose these same old tracks we've heard a trillion times" so we are supposed to get excited because of the new packaging with liner notes from these artists ect......its a huge rip off and I think it hurts the band putting out all these crappy "best of" bullshit. I agree with you Head Banger.
And I don't want K.K. back in the band....ever,if he decided to join again he would probably bring in more poison watering the next LP down as much as he can with experimental BULLSHIT. Stay retired,we don't want you back! I need one more studio album from Judas Priest and I don't want it fucked up by Mr. K.K. Nostradamus.
I wouldn't mind seeing the band quit playing live shows altogether and just make studio LPs from here on out.
Head banger wrote:
no and no
I have everything from single cuts already, why drop a bunch of cash on something for the shelf only? makes more sense to buy concert tix, so I did.
I dont care if kk comes back, I dont want 3 guitars. kk back and wanting to play great but he doesnt want it so he should stay retired and if you got a hundred thousand people to click the widgit you think kk cares about that? not a chance
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DID YOU BUY SINGLE CUTS AND DID YOU CLICK ON THE KK WIDGET.
Head banger wrote:
ok, no telling. how about begging...
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO.LOL
Head banger wrote:
could they reform you to confine your posts to one thread. create one....
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ALIENS
THINK YOUR EVER GONNA REFORM ME
YOUVE GOT ANOTHER THING FUC?EN COMIN
Edited at: Friday, September 30, 2011 7:55:36 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, October 01, 2011 4:39:25 PM
I originally took that digital copy only for myself as well, but then I thought "it's been out of print for 17 years, the band and the record label are no longer receiving any money from it's sales, and no DVD reissue is in sight (and probably never will)". So, I then decided to upload it. I had previously shared a few out-of-print single B-sides on my site, but when the Single Cuts boxset was announced, I immediately removed them as an official CD release was to be soon available. I would do exactly the same if the Metal Works VHS received a reissue in any form. And no, the Finnish copyright laws aren't any more relaxed than in the USA, but so far I've avoided any trouble.
I love the band and am usually against sharing official material over the internet. If someone puts their whole official discography/videography (that you can easily buy legally from anywhere) on the net (just Google search and you get tons of results), I loathe it. If someone sells bootlegs, I loathe it as well. But if someone shares a release that's been out-of print for over a decade, the band no longer receives any money from it (as all the copies on the market are second-hand) and it isn't receiving a reissue anytime soon, let's just say that I won't feel too bad about it. I did think about putting the VHS-rip on the web for quite a while, but if it offends the other fans too much, I can still remove it. Would only take a couple of minutes, it's a pretty crappy rip anyway...
Oh and J.D. Diamond, I'm not going to buy the Chosen Few, even though I bought the Single Cuts boxset. That compilation offers nothing new to me, unlike the boxset which at least has single B-sides I couldn't have gotten before because of my young age (and lack of funds - old vinyl singles are pretty expensive these days).That's why I haven't bought any Judas Priest compilations at all - I could always make the exact same compilation from the albums I've already bought.
Like I said, I am with you about the dubious reason as to why Priest is releasing these new "Best of" albums. Certainly isn't because of illegal downloading, to be sure.
The rule that is has been the norm (in both the US and Canada) is that you can legally "transcode" a video / music you legally own. It has always been the case and a major reason as to why the digital media rights mafia hasn't been able to go all that far in either country (they do not just govern one country, they claim to "protect" all intellectual property worldwide). Big problem was CSS - the original "scramble" protection code. THAT was made illegal. They shut down many an international site that either sold or gave away a DE-CSS program (i.e. rip). Odd rule. You could, in theory, own a copy of the same movie or album for personal use on various devices (iPhone, PSP, backup) but it was / is illegal to circumvent the CSS code. Go figger. Look at the debate over Pirate Bay for a good discussion of the subject.
Exactly why a great many movies, albums and games have gone "protection-free." Canada is just now making a show about a law that is already on the books.
Nupe's comment about "ripping" JP's "Metal Works" is a misnomer. He transcoded it from one format to another. I own the NTSC version of it and digitized it years ago. It never had protection, thus, perfectly legal for me to make a backup. NOT legal (in the US...Finland is another case) to share it openly as it is copyrighted material. In certain countries, though. That is why many servers have moved to more "share friendly" countries that are out of reach of current international law.
Head banger wrote:
canada just changed or is planning to change the copyright act to permit any use of a song, as long as you dont have to break a digital lock. interesting, all this downloading crap is a pain.
I dont see how priest is making money to replace downloading with more stuff that could easily be downloaded. we have all these songs, rip them in the right order
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry. Don't buy that argument at all. While there is no doubt that downloading (both legal and illegal) has changed the old school music economic model, you don't exactly go and buy a golf course because you are poor.
It completely flew under the radar of most in the US but there was a recent "major win" by those groups that not only try to stop but actually persecute those who violate the many acts and laws that are out to protect Digital Media Rights.
The freelance writer and consumer advocate for a "fair use" policy, Quinn Norton, recently released a bombshell in the trade rags such as "Wired" and MaxPC magazines. It slipped by in the form of an EULA (end user license agreement) that the big 5 internet providers formed. Basically, with no laws, most have now signed away their rights without knowing it simply by using their internet provider. They track you with even the suspicion of an illegal download and your company "dings" you. A few "dings" and you are forced to go through an online class before you are granted full internet access again. Your acct flagged a second time? Possible ban from use and lawsuits.
This is now going worldwide. Write your Congressman? Nope. No laws have been passed. Just your own ISP's EULA. Good luck to the tech neophytes and, oh yes, the idiot here recently boasting about "Limewire" (Gnutella), Frostwire (same access, dope), and even the torrent clients.
Nope. As you can tell, I don't buy that argument at all. It died with the Shitallica round of lawsuits back in 2006.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
PERHAPS THEY ARE TRYING TO GET BACK IN A HONEST WAY THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FUUUCCC??????EEEEENNNNNNNNNN RIPED OFF FROM THEM AND (OUR METAL FAITH) WITH ILLEGAL DOWNLOADING J.D DIAMOND THE COMMANDER.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, September 30, 2011 5:03:03 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
People who bought the single cuts are probably going to buy "The Chosen Few" which turns my stomach just typing this...."The Chosen Few"....oohhhh "other metal artists chose these same old tracks we've heard a trillion times" so we are supposed to get excited because of the new packaging with liner notes from these artists ect......its a huge rip off and I think it hurts the band putting out all these crappy "best of" bullshit. I agree with you Head Banger.
And I don't want K.K. back in the band....ever,if he decided to join again he would probably bring in more poison watering the next LP down as much as he can with experimental BULLSHIT. Stay retired,we don't want you back! I need one more studio album from Judas Priest and I don't want it fucked up by Mr. K.K. Nostradamus.
I wouldn't mind seeing the band quit playing live shows altogether and just make studio LPs from here on out.
Head banger wrote:
no and no
I have everything from single cuts already, why drop a bunch of cash on something for the shelf only? makes more sense to buy concert tix, so I did.
I dont care if kk comes back, I dont want 3 guitars. kk back and wanting to play great but he doesnt want it so he should stay retired and if you got a hundred thousand people to click the widgit you think kk cares about that? not a chance
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DID YOU BUY SINGLE CUTS AND DID YOU CLICK ON THE KK WIDGET.
Head banger wrote:
ok, no telling. how about begging...
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO.LOL
Head banger wrote:
could they reform you to confine your posts to one thread. create one....
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ALIENS
THINK YOUR EVER GONNA REFORM ME
YOUVE GOT ANOTHER THING FUC?EN COMIN
Edited at: Friday, September 30, 2011 7:55:36 PM
[guidogodoy] Friday, September 30, 2011 11:41:48 PM
Shall I start singing "The Outfield" now? LOL!!!! YEAAAAAAH! THERE is the best starting line in all songwriting: "You got me all screwed up!"
are you sugesting my wonderful government is making a fuss over nothing. perhaps trying to look good without doing anything? a politician? say it isnt so.
guidogodoy wrote:
Like I said, I am with you about the dubious reason as to why Priest is releasing these new "Best of" albums. Certainly isn't because of illegal downloading, to be sure.
The rule that is has been the norm (in both the US and Canada) is that you can legally "transcode" a video / music you legally own. It has always been the case and a major reason as to why the digital media rights mafia hasn't been able to go all that far in either country (they do not just govern one country, they claim to "protect" all intellectual property worldwide). Big problem was CSS - the original "scramble" protection code. THAT was made illegal. They shut down many an international site that either sold or gave away a DE-CSS program (i.e. rip). Odd rule. You could, in theory, own a copy of the same movie or album for personal use on various devices (iPhone, PSP, backup) but it was / is illegal to circumvent the CSS code. Go figger. Look at the debate over Pirate Bay for a good discussion of the subject.
Exactly why a great many movies, albums and games have gone "protection-free." Canada is just now making a show about a law that is already on the books.
Nupe's comment about "ripping" JP's "Metal Works" is a misnomer. He transcoded it from one format to another. I own the NTSC version of it and digitized it years ago. It never had protection, thus, perfectly legal for me to make a backup. NOT legal (in the US...Finland is another case) to share it openly as it is copyrighted material. In certain countries, though. That is why many servers have moved to more "share friendly" countries that are out of reach of current international law.
Head banger wrote:
canada just changed or is planning to change the copyright act to permit any use of a song, as long as you dont have to break a digital lock. interesting, all this downloading crap is a pain.
I dont see how priest is making money to replace downloading with more stuff that could easily be downloaded. we have all these songs, rip them in the right order
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry. Don't buy that argument at all. While there is no doubt that downloading (both legal and illegal) has changed the old school music economic model, you don't exactly go and buy a golf course because you are poor.
It completely flew under the radar of most in the US but there was a recent "major win" by those groups that not only try to stop but actually persecute those who violate the many acts and laws that are out to protect Digital Media Rights.
The freelance writer and consumer advocate for a "fair use" policy, Quinn Norton, recently released a bombshell in the trade rags such as "Wired" and MaxPC magazines. It slipped by in the form of an EULA (end user license agreement) that the big 5 internet providers formed. Basically, with no laws, most have now signed away their rights without knowing it simply by using their internet provider. They track you with even the suspicion of an illegal download and your company "dings" you. A few "dings" and you are forced to go through an online class before you are granted full internet access again. Your acct flagged a second time? Possible ban from use and lawsuits.
This is now going worldwide. Write your Congressman? Nope. No laws have been passed. Just your own ISP's EULA. Good luck to the tech neophytes and, oh yes, the idiot here recently boasting about "Limewire" (Gnutella), Frostwire (same access, dope), and even the torrent clients.
Nope. As you can tell, I don't buy that argument at all. It died with the Shitallica round of lawsuits back in 2006.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
PERHAPS THEY ARE TRYING TO GET BACK IN A HONEST WAY THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FUUUCCC??????EEEEENNNNNNNNNN RIPED OFF FROM THEM AND (OUR METAL FAITH) WITH ILLEGAL DOWNLOADING J.D DIAMOND THE COMMANDER.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, September 30, 2011 5:03:03 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
People who bought the single cuts are probably going to buy "The Chosen Few" which turns my stomach just typing this...."The Chosen Few"....oohhhh "other metal artists chose these same old tracks we've heard a trillion times" so we are supposed to get excited because of the new packaging with liner notes from these artists ect......its a huge rip off and I think it hurts the band putting out all these crappy "best of" bullshit. I agree with you Head Banger.
And I don't want K.K. back in the band....ever,if he decided to join again he would probably bring in more poison watering the next LP down as much as he can with experimental BULLSHIT. Stay retired,we don't want you back! I need one more studio album from Judas Priest and I don't want it fucked up by Mr. K.K. Nostradamus.
I wouldn't mind seeing the band quit playing live shows altogether and just make studio LPs from here on out.
Head banger wrote:
no and no
I have everything from single cuts already, why drop a bunch of cash on something for the shelf only? makes more sense to buy concert tix, so I did.
I dont care if kk comes back, I dont want 3 guitars. kk back and wanting to play great but he doesnt want it so he should stay retired and if you got a hundred thousand people to click the widgit you think kk cares about that? not a chance
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DID YOU BUY SINGLE CUTS AND DID YOU CLICK ON THE KK WIDGET.
Head banger wrote:
ok, no telling. how about begging...
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO.LOL
Head banger wrote:
could they reform you to confine your posts to one thread. create one....
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ALIENS
THINK YOUR EVER GONNA REFORM ME
YOUVE GOT ANOTHER THING FUC?EN COMIN
Edited at: Friday, September 30, 2011 7:55:36 PM
[Head banger] Friday, September 30, 2011 11:08:58 PM
are you sugesting my wonderful government is making a fuss over nothing. perhaps trying to look good without doing anything? a politician? say it isnt so.
Like I said, I am with you about the dubious reason as to why Priest is releasing these new "Best of" albums. Certainly isn't because of illegal downloading, to be sure.
The rule that is has been the norm (in both the US and Canada) is that you can legally "transcode" a video / music you legally own. It has always been the case and a major reason as to why the digital media rights mafia hasn't been able to go all that far in either country (they do not just govern one country, they claim to "protect" all intellectual property worldwide). Big problem was CSS - the original "scramble" protection code. THAT was made illegal. They shut down many an international site that either sold or gave away a DE-CSS program (i.e. rip). Odd rule. You could, in theory, own a copy of the same movie or album for personal use on various devices (iPhone, PSP, backup) but it was / is illegal to circumvent the CSS code. Go figger. Look at the debate over Pirate Bay for a good discussion of the subject.
Exactly why a great many movies, albums and games have gone "protection-free." Canada is just now making a show about a law that is already on the books.
Nupe's comment about "ripping" JP's "Metal Works" is a misnomer. He transcoded it from one format to another. I own the NTSC version of it and digitized it years ago. It never had protection, thus, perfectly legal for me to make a backup. NOT legal (in the US...Finland is another case) to share it openly as it is copyrighted material. In certain countries, though. That is why many servers have moved to more "share friendly" countries that are out of reach of current international law.
Head banger wrote:
canada just changed or is planning to change the copyright act to permit any use of a song, as long as you dont have to break a digital lock. interesting, all this downloading crap is a pain.
I dont see how priest is making money to replace downloading with more stuff that could easily be downloaded. we have all these songs, rip them in the right order
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry. Don't buy that argument at all. While there is no doubt that downloading (both legal and illegal) has changed the old school music economic model, you don't exactly go and buy a golf course because you are poor.
It completely flew under the radar of most in the US but there was a recent "major win" by those groups that not only try to stop but actually persecute those who violate the many acts and laws that are out to protect Digital Media Rights.
The freelance writer and consumer advocate for a "fair use" policy, Quinn Norton, recently released a bombshell in the trade rags such as "Wired" and MaxPC magazines. It slipped by in the form of an EULA (end user license agreement) that the big 5 internet providers formed. Basically, with no laws, most have now signed away their rights without knowing it simply by using their internet provider. They track you with even the suspicion of an illegal download and your company "dings" you. A few "dings" and you are forced to go through an online class before you are granted full internet access again. Your acct flagged a second time? Possible ban from use and lawsuits.
This is now going worldwide. Write your Congressman? Nope. No laws have been passed. Just your own ISP's EULA. Good luck to the tech neophytes and, oh yes, the idiot here recently boasting about "Limewire" (Gnutella), Frostwire (same access, dope), and even the torrent clients.
Nope. As you can tell, I don't buy that argument at all. It died with the Shitallica round of lawsuits back in 2006.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
PERHAPS THEY ARE TRYING TO GET BACK IN A HONEST WAY THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FUUUCCC??????EEEEENNNNNNNNNN RIPED OFF FROM THEM AND (OUR METAL FAITH) WITH ILLEGAL DOWNLOADING J.D DIAMOND THE COMMANDER.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, September 30, 2011 5:03:03 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
People who bought the single cuts are probably going to buy "The Chosen Few" which turns my stomach just typing this...."The Chosen Few"....oohhhh "other metal artists chose these same old tracks we've heard a trillion times" so we are supposed to get excited because of the new packaging with liner notes from these artists ect......its a huge rip off and I think it hurts the band putting out all these crappy "best of" bullshit. I agree with you Head Banger.
And I don't want K.K. back in the band....ever,if he decided to join again he would probably bring in more poison watering the next LP down as much as he can with experimental BULLSHIT. Stay retired,we don't want you back! I need one more studio album from Judas Priest and I don't want it fucked up by Mr. K.K. Nostradamus.
I wouldn't mind seeing the band quit playing live shows altogether and just make studio LPs from here on out.
Head banger wrote:
no and no
I have everything from single cuts already, why drop a bunch of cash on something for the shelf only? makes more sense to buy concert tix, so I did.
I dont care if kk comes back, I dont want 3 guitars. kk back and wanting to play great but he doesnt want it so he should stay retired and if you got a hundred thousand people to click the widgit you think kk cares about that? not a chance
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DID YOU BUY SINGLE CUTS AND DID YOU CLICK ON THE KK WIDGET.
Head banger wrote:
ok, no telling. how about begging...
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO.LOL
Head banger wrote:
could they reform you to confine your posts to one thread. create one....
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ALIENS
THINK YOUR EVER GONNA REFORM ME
YOUVE GOT ANOTHER THING FUC?EN COMIN
Edited at: Friday, September 30, 2011 7:55:36 PM
[guidogodoy] Friday, September 30, 2011 11:02:31 PM
Like I said, I am with you about the dubious reason as to why Priest is releasing these new "Best of" albums. Certainly isn't because of illegal downloading, to be sure.
The rule that is has been the norm (in both the US and Canada) is that you can legally "transcode" a video / music you legally own. It has always been the case and a major reason as to why the digital media rights mafia hasn't been able to go all that far in either country (they do not just govern one country, they claim to "protect" all intellectual property worldwide). Big problem was CSS - the original "scramble" protection code. THAT was made illegal. They shut down many an international site that either sold or gave away a DE-CSS program (i.e. rip). Odd rule. You could, in theory, own a copy of the same movie or album for personal use on various devices (iPhone, PSP, backup) but it was / is illegal to circumvent the CSS code. Go figger. Look at the debate over Pirate Bay for a good discussion of the subject.
Exactly why a great many movies, albums and games have gone "protection-free." Canada is just now making a show about a law that is already on the books.
Nupe's comment about "ripping" JP's "Metal Works" is a misnomer. He transcoded it from one format to another. I own the NTSC version of it and digitized it years ago. It never had protection, thus, perfectly legal for me to make a backup. NOT legal (in the US...Finland is another case) to share it openly as it is copyrighted material. In certain countries, though. That is why many servers have moved to more "share friendly" countries that are out of reach of current international law.
canada just changed or is planning to change the copyright act to permit any use of a song, as long as you dont have to break a digital lock. interesting, all this downloading crap is a pain.
I dont see how priest is making money to replace downloading with more stuff that could easily be downloaded. we have all these songs, rip them in the right order
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry. Don't buy that argument at all. While there is no doubt that downloading (both legal and illegal) has changed the old school music economic model, you don't exactly go and buy a golf course because you are poor.
It completely flew under the radar of most in the US but there was a recent "major win" by those groups that not only try to stop but actually persecute those who violate the many acts and laws that are out to protect Digital Media Rights.
The freelance writer and consumer advocate for a "fair use" policy, Quinn Norton, recently released a bombshell in the trade rags such as "Wired" and MaxPC magazines. It slipped by in the form of an EULA (end user license agreement) that the big 5 internet providers formed. Basically, with no laws, most have now signed away their rights without knowing it simply by using their internet provider. They track you with even the suspicion of an illegal download and your company "dings" you. A few "dings" and you are forced to go through an online class before you are granted full internet access again. Your acct flagged a second time? Possible ban from use and lawsuits.
This is now going worldwide. Write your Congressman? Nope. No laws have been passed. Just your own ISP's EULA. Good luck to the tech neophytes and, oh yes, the idiot here recently boasting about "Limewire" (Gnutella), Frostwire (same access, dope), and even the torrent clients.
Nope. As you can tell, I don't buy that argument at all. It died with the Shitallica round of lawsuits back in 2006.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
PERHAPS THEY ARE TRYING TO GET BACK IN A HONEST WAY THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FUUUCCC??????EEEEENNNNNNNNNN RIPED OFF FROM THEM AND (OUR METAL FAITH) WITH ILLEGAL DOWNLOADING J.D DIAMOND THE COMMANDER.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, September 30, 2011 5:03:03 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
People who bought the single cuts are probably going to buy "The Chosen Few" which turns my stomach just typing this...."The Chosen Few"....oohhhh "other metal artists chose these same old tracks we've heard a trillion times" so we are supposed to get excited because of the new packaging with liner notes from these artists ect......its a huge rip off and I think it hurts the band putting out all these crappy "best of" bullshit. I agree with you Head Banger.
And I don't want K.K. back in the band....ever,if he decided to join again he would probably bring in more poison watering the next LP down as much as he can with experimental BULLSHIT. Stay retired,we don't want you back! I need one more studio album from Judas Priest and I don't want it fucked up by Mr. K.K. Nostradamus.
I wouldn't mind seeing the band quit playing live shows altogether and just make studio LPs from here on out.
Head banger wrote:
no and no
I have everything from single cuts already, why drop a bunch of cash on something for the shelf only? makes more sense to buy concert tix, so I did.
I dont care if kk comes back, I dont want 3 guitars. kk back and wanting to play great but he doesnt want it so he should stay retired and if you got a hundred thousand people to click the widgit you think kk cares about that? not a chance
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DID YOU BUY SINGLE CUTS AND DID YOU CLICK ON THE KK WIDGET.
Head banger wrote:
ok, no telling. how about begging...
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO.LOL
Head banger wrote:
could they reform you to confine your posts to one thread. create one....
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ALIENS
THINK YOUR EVER GONNA REFORM ME
YOUVE GOT ANOTHER THING FUC?EN COMIN
Edited at: Friday, September 30, 2011 7:55:36 PM
[Head banger] Friday, September 30, 2011 10:39:36 PM
canada just changed or is planning to change the copyright act to permit any use of a song, as long as you dont have to break a digital lock. interesting, all this downloading crap is a pain.
I dont see how priest is making money to replace downloading with more stuff that could easily be downloaded. we have all these songs, rip them in the right order
Sorry. Don't buy that argument at all. While there is no doubt that downloading (both legal and illegal) has changed the old school music economic model, you don't exactly go and buy a golf course because you are poor.
It completely flew under the radar of most in the US but there was a recent "major win" by those groups that not only try to stop but actually persecute those who violate the many acts and laws that are out to protect Digital Media Rights.
The freelance writer and consumer advocate for a "fair use" policy, Quinn Norton, recently released a bombshell in the trade rags such as "Wired" and MaxPC magazines. It slipped by in the form of an EULA (end user license agreement) that the big 5 internet providers formed. Basically, with no laws, most have now signed away their rights without knowing it simply by using their internet provider. They track you with even the suspicion of an illegal download and your company "dings" you. A few "dings" and you are forced to go through an online class before you are granted full internet access again. Your acct flagged a second time? Possible ban from use and lawsuits.
This is now going worldwide. Write your Congressman? Nope. No laws have been passed. Just your own ISP's EULA. Good luck to the tech neophytes and, oh yes, the idiot here recently boasting about "Limewire" (Gnutella), Frostwire (same access, dope), and even the torrent clients.
Nope. As you can tell, I don't buy that argument at all. It died with the Shitallica round of lawsuits back in 2006.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
PERHAPS THEY ARE TRYING TO GET BACK IN A HONEST WAY THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FUUUCCC??????EEEEENNNNNNNNNN RIPED OFF FROM THEM AND (OUR METAL FAITH) WITH ILLEGAL DOWNLOADING J.D DIAMOND THE COMMANDER.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, September 30, 2011 5:03:03 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
People who bought the single cuts are probably going to buy "The Chosen Few" which turns my stomach just typing this...."The Chosen Few"....oohhhh "other metal artists chose these same old tracks we've heard a trillion times" so we are supposed to get excited because of the new packaging with liner notes from these artists ect......its a huge rip off and I think it hurts the band putting out all these crappy "best of" bullshit. I agree with you Head Banger.
And I don't want K.K. back in the band....ever,if he decided to join again he would probably bring in more poison watering the next LP down as much as he can with experimental BULLSHIT. Stay retired,we don't want you back! I need one more studio album from Judas Priest and I don't want it fucked up by Mr. K.K. Nostradamus.
I wouldn't mind seeing the band quit playing live shows altogether and just make studio LPs from here on out.
Head banger wrote:
no and no
I have everything from single cuts already, why drop a bunch of cash on something for the shelf only? makes more sense to buy concert tix, so I did.
I dont care if kk comes back, I dont want 3 guitars. kk back and wanting to play great but he doesnt want it so he should stay retired and if you got a hundred thousand people to click the widgit you think kk cares about that? not a chance
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DID YOU BUY SINGLE CUTS AND DID YOU CLICK ON THE KK WIDGET.
Head banger wrote:
ok, no telling. how about begging...
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO.LOL
Head banger wrote:
could they reform you to confine your posts to one thread. create one....
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ALIENS
THINK YOUR EVER GONNA REFORM ME
YOUVE GOT ANOTHER THING FUC?EN COMIN
Edited at: Friday, September 30, 2011 7:55:36 PM
[Head banger] Friday, September 30, 2011 10:35:58 PM
simple, gull wasnt paying them, this is [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, September 30, 2011 8:47:26 PM)
spapad wrote:
I just don't really understand any of this rereleasing of so much stuff we all have. Is it for the new generation? Can't they still buy the old catalog of music?
I seem to remember Priest getting upset with Gull for continuing to repackage their old music to an add nauseum degree. So, why is Priest now doing it?
However, I thank God that I have Jesus' strength in me to resist! For surely, I find that the "world" finds it easy to turn it's back on me, with the exception of a few who choose to suffer with me. I thank those for their support, friendship, and love! But, that's too easy to do. Truelly...I thank those who turned their backs...It made me turn to God! 
