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[Head banger] Friday, November 18, 2011 1:27:22 PM 
probably some inside drama then.  who knows.  mayby rob hit on him.  HA.  kidding.  who knows.  after the show I saw, dont realy care.

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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, November 18, 2011 12:05:15 PM 
Here is an interview with KK, talking about leaving Priest and that he will never disclose his reasons for leaving the band. This man is a CLASS ACT all the way!!!

VIDEO: K.K. Downing says he’ll never share why he left Judas Priest

 
In a new interview, former Judas Priest guitarist K.K. Downing says he’ll never completely share the reasons why he decided to retire from the band prior to their ‘farewell’ Epitaph world tour.

"It was a set of circumstances that led me to not go out [on tour with Priest] this year,” Downing tells Valley reporter Grace Bailey at his home at Astbury Hall in Shropshire, England. “I was kind of geared up for it, but there was a multitude of reasons. It pretty much came down to an unsettlement on my part with working relationships.

"It's like anything else,”
continues. “If anybody out there is thinking it's hard to live with one woman, they should try to live with four guys and hold it together. [Laughs] It gets to be like that, but obviously, with certain things, I just wasn't completely happy with the way things were, with the way it was, [and I just felt like] it was probably best if I stepped down, and I did."

Richie Faulkner
was brought in by the metal gods to fill out their sound, joining Glenn Tipton on guitar.

"I wish things could have been different, so I could have continued,” says K.K. “Obviously, 'cause of the passion [I had for the band]. In the [late] Sixties, I was very instrumental in creating Judas Priest, and it was a hard bullet to bite. But I thought that if this is gonna be the way that it's gonna be, then perhaps it's time to step down.

"It was a massive consideration,"
says the guitarist. "Obviously, the fans, who I love, and many of them have become very good friends. But I just hoped that they would appreciate that I couldn't continue with the way that I felt inside for reasons which I'll… I mean, certain reasons I will never, ever disclose.

"I have been extremely fortunate to have been able to do so many shows and tours and records, and come out of it healthy and well. But I haven't really spoken to anyone about the inner details [behind my decision], really."


Priest band members have publicly stated that they have no idea why Downing retired, with some reports speculating that his decision was based on K.K.’s need to run his 9- and 18-hole golf courses on his estate, which the guitarist has flatly denied.

Hear what K.K. has to say in the Valley interview…

Priest continue the North American leg of the Epitaph tour this week with shows in New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Massachusetts.


www.hennemusic.com/2011/11/video-kk-downing-says-hell-never-share.html
[guidogodoy] Thursday, November 17, 2011 8:37:23 PM 
Despite having the Beatles on the cover, "Guitar World" magazine has a nice little article about Priest this month. Specifically, an interview with Richie and Glenn.

Nice read on the flight home from the concerts.
[Head banger] Sunday, November 06, 2011 11:52:42 AM 
by my rough count JB wants 85 million.  he should have represented michael jackson.  that reads like he had no clue what was going on from day one.  WTF.  I do hope that rob kept the rights to his material separate, and that he makes a new priest album next.
[Vaillant 3.0] Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:19:13 PM 
Heads up Noticeboarders! Glenn's Tour Diary's got new entries from the recent US gigs. Now if only the photo section would update just as quickly.

www.glenntipton.co.uk/tour-diary.asp
[spapad] Friday, November 04, 2011 5:02:52 PM 
Just my thoughts on this subject, unprofessional as they may be. lol:

I'm sure when Rob got wind of the statements on the Q for the world to see, he could not wait to be rid of such a hostile business partner , which prompted him to Lawyer up to find a way to dissolve the contract between himself and EMAS. Then when Baxter found himself fired for pretty much his own desparate actions, he was shocked? So he goes and files this injured party law suit.
Baxter was probably being slowly disentwinded from Halford's intrests over the past year and that is what caused him to loose his mind and post the things he did. It showed just how unprofessional J.B. could be, and how low he could sink.
I would like to know just what effect these developments were having on Judas Priest prior to this suit. Perhaps KK retired to protect his own assests seeing something this unpleasant coming down the pike and wishing to be no part of another law suit. 
Allas, we all will probably never really know.


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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, November 04, 2011 12:49:13 PM 
This is also about Priest management negotiating a 10 page ammendment to Rob's EMI contract, which Baxter had been in control of since 1992. Priest management doesn't want to lose Rob as a client. After Priest is done, Rob will be the only money maker since no one else has anything going on. Page 13 is interesting reading once you get past all the lawyer speak.

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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, November 04, 2011 12:02:37 PM 
Here it is HB.   www.courthousenews.com/2011/10/31/Rock.pdf

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Friday, November 04, 2011 7:58:40 AM)
[tasnam1] Friday, November 04, 2011 8:49:06 AM 


Folks just because John is the sole member of the LLC that may have nothing to do with the "rights" of Halford's material.

It could just be a legal Company that was established for legal protection, but Halford most likely kept rights to many of his other Companies listes in the suit.

An LLC is set up for legal protection and some tax benefits - that can be very different that ownership of material.

At this point we don't know.

The fact the John is trying to "pierce the corporate veil" shows he is trying to prove that Halford and his other legal vehiles have becomed blurred in their separation.

[Head banger] Friday, November 04, 2011 7:58:40 AM 
Why the )*)#$ would rob do that with JB?  did he not learn from the gull days?


can you post a link to the Q post?  I dont want to bother trying to find it in that mess.
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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, November 04, 2011 7:54:30 AM 
When did that happen that Baxter is the sole owner? Was that when Rob rejoined Priest or has it always been that way? I remember Rob saying that he had to restructure his business when her rejoined Priest to keep Jayne and Co. from it.

I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that Jayne and others want a piece of the pie when Priest is done after this tour and have been trying to influence Rob so they can get money from Halford, etc. This goes way deeper and I'm sure it started before July. This could have something to do with why KK left - he didn't agree with whatever is going on.

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[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, November 04, 2011 5:28:07 AM 
It is getting serious now; according to a copy of the law documents (linked on the Q), John Baxter is the sole owner of Metal God Entertainment, Metal God Records & Metal God Apparel. So if the shit really hits the fan here, most of Rob's solo material & merchandise could potentially have the same fate as Priest's Gull-era records.

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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, November 04, 2011 12:55:16 AM 
Someone on the Q just posted the papers filed for the lawsuit..... interesting reading.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Nupe The Ripper from Thursday, November 03, 2011 1:47:41 PM)
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, November 03, 2011 1:47:41 PM 
His rant post was posted on the Q on July 29th, so yeah the timeline is quite fitting.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:10:38 PM)
[guidogodoy] Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:10:38 PM 
Wow. Thanks for the post, Nupe. HRMG is right. This was and is a "shit / shit" situation for Rob.

When did "Baxtergate" first break. Been too long since his post. Wasn't it around August? Would all tie into the timeline as stated in the article.
[Head banger] Thursday, November 03, 2011 8:02:46 AM 
hopefully the end resolution of this is a more coheasive priest.  baxter looked like an idiot with the post in the Q, and if he lost 50 mil in paychecks (I doubt rob agreed to pay him 200+%) then he should have asked sooner.  if he wasnt getting paid he should have quit years ago,
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Thursday, November 03, 2011 7:55:26 AM 
There is always far more to any situation than we will ever know. Looks like shit is hitting the fan though. This just completely sucks for Rob being stuck in the middle. And I knew that Jayne made the Epitaph announcement during the HALFORD tour to screw Rob. It left Rob out there to have to answer all the questions while the rest of Priest was hiding and saying nothing. It wasn't fair to Rob to have to deal with all of it while he was on tour with HALFORD. They should have had a press conference with all the members of the band. There is far more here than meets the eye!

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[Becks] Thursday, November 03, 2011 2:40:10 AM 
Baxter is making himself look like an idiot - as you say, how could he not know he was not getting paid??? Sounds very bizarre to me, and bitter on Baxters part. LIke someone says in the article (an entertainment industry lawyer I believe), this smacks of someone getting in a shit cos he's been fired, and is now looking for a farewell 'present'. $50million? Give me a break.

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[.] Thursday, November 03, 2011 2:22:54 AM 
 What is serious? That a manager decided to sue because he was fired? I don't believe for one moment that that dude didn't know he wasn't getting paid...for years. 
What a dijk. And 50 mil? 

Serious is little children dying of hunger in Africa. This guy sueing Priest has as much of a case as that ex-girlfriend of KK's had when she sued him for his estate. 


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[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, November 03, 2011 1:43:35 AM 
Via the Quorum: www.rollingstone.com/music/news/rob-halfords-longtime-manager-suing-him-for-breach-of-contract-20111102#ixzz1cb5hMTQn

It's getting more serious.

Edited at: Thursday, November 03, 2011 1:43:55 AM
[acolyte55] Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:12:06 PM 
NICE!!!!!!
[guidogodoy] Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:56:06 AM 

The Boneyard's Worship The Priest Weekend Tomorrow 10/28 6 pm ET Boneyard: Sirius 38 | XM 38 This Halloween, you could dress up in a Zombie, Captain America or Charlie Sheen costume, but we recommend wearing a Boneyard classic ... leather! Judas Priest just released the group's new album, The Chosen Few, and we’ll play a lethal dose of leather-fueled Priest all weekend. Plus, hear from our special guests from the band Rob Halford, Glenn Tipton and Richie Faulkner.

[Budred] Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:25:43 PM 
Thanks for the post. I'll be looking for that one.
This would have been good for the "Check This Out" thread.

I remember listening to Venom when I was young and they seemed so fast and thrashy.
Now they almost sound melodic. Not so much a change in them as much as a change in music
from then to now. Good stuff regardless.

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[Mr. Dave Genocide] Wednesday, October 19, 2011 2:25:56 PM 
Not gunna lie, but that was fuckin' BRUTAL!
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:22:58 AM 
Brand new VENOM - "Punk's Not Dead" from thier new album "Fallen Angels"....

And a fuckin' huge "HELL YEAH" goes out to Mr. Lant for this gift from the originators and founders of "BLACK METAL". 






Edited at: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:24:38 AM
[guitardude] Monday, October 17, 2011 12:49:13 PM 
Check my post in the "making you happy thread"
Rob killed Blood Red Skies last night, the highs and all ! Don`t think they could have done that song more perfectly.
Judas Rising , Rob was a little off time with his vocals, one of the monitors by Ritchie kept vibarting out towards him and pinching his guitar cord and Glenn had one equipment issue during the  the Sentinel. Other wise damn good show man! Hell even Scottie grabbed a mic to talk at the end!
[painkillermd robinson] Saturday, October 15, 2011 4:44:41 PM 
The Priest rocked Corpus Christi October 14th. One of the best sounding shows I've seen. This one makes 5. Went VIP for the venue. Well worth the extra bucks. Suggest to others if you can... pay it!
Seeing the veterans playing with the new guitarist was like a before and after shot. This new dude blew the fucking walls down. Buried the needle. Thanks gentlemen for one incredible show!!
[Becks] Saturday, October 15, 2011 1:20:31 AM 
Great news that there was such a fantastic crowd!

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[guidogodoy] Friday, October 14, 2011 4:42:50 PM 
Fantastic! Thanks for the post!

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[JayDee  Jepsen] Friday, October 14, 2011 3:01:46 PM 
Priest rocked San Antonio, TX.  See the 3:03 - 3:15 mark, there's a wide shot of a packed, 10,000+ fans, AT&T Center!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8PS-aXaTFs
[hellrider 31038] Tuesday, October 11, 2011 6:19:12 PM 
I AM IMAGINING IF THEY SAW THOSE POST OF MINE ABOUT THE BLACK ALBUM.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, October 02, 2011 7:29:48 PM)
Edited at: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 6:31:30 PM
[hellrider 31038] Friday, October 07, 2011 8:27:53 PM 
CLICK THE WIDGET

CLICK THE WIDGET

CLICK THE WIDGET

IM STARTING TO FEEL LIKE A PARROT

CLICK THE WIDGET

CLICK THE WIDGET




CLICK THE WIDGET

KK COME BACK WITH RICHIE A THREE AXE ATTTTAAAACCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
CAN YOU IMAGINE
HOOOOOLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY  FUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC????????????????????????????

THE ULTIMATE DUO ATTACK OF KK AND GLENN BACK WITH US AND RICHIE KICKING IT UP A NOTCH
AND BEFORE THE NEW MIGHTY PRIEST BEAST METAL MONSTER ALBUM IS RECORDED WITHOUT KK FOREVER












AND REMEMBER KEEP THE FAITH SUPPORT THE PRIEST BUY SINGLE CUTS

SO THEY CAN GIVE US THERE BEST AND SAY FUUUUC?????????  THE REST 


JUDAS PRIEST
MASTERS OF METAL
CONTINUING THE LEGACY
BACK AND WITH A VENGEANCE LIKE NEVER BEFORE


FULL ON AND IN YOUR FACE

Edited at: Friday, October 07, 2011 8:29:09 PM
[Painkiller87] Wednesday, October 05, 2011 5:03:05 PM 
GLENN TIPTON Says 'Epitaph' Tour Is 'The Beginning Of The End' Of JUDAS PRIEST - Oct. 5, 2011
Jim Beal Jr. of MySanAntonio.com recently conducted an interview with guitarist Glenn Tipton of British heavy metal legends JUDAS PRIEST. A couple of excerpts from the chat follow below.

On having JUDAS PRIEST songs covered by bands from SEPULTURA to THE DONNAS, from ANNIHILATOR to KREATOR:

"A lot of bands cite JUDAS PRIEST as influences. The best compliment we've ever had was our music is timeless. It's something to be proud of. But we've never really known what we're doing."

On the key to JUDAS PRIEST's early success:

"You never really know what's going to happen. I'd been in a lot of local bands. When it was suggested Judas Priest pull in another player, we joined forces. I immediately knew something special had occurred, especially as writers."

"It's all about the song. Visually, you have to look good on stage and you have to be good players, you have to rely on the guitar players to be good soloists, but there has to be a reason for that solo break to be there. It should be all about the composition, all about the song. The music has to complement what's already there. The song is the most important thing. A band is really only as good as its songs. Every now and then, with a combination of writers, we struck a chord with listeners. We've always been proud to be a metal band, but the songs are easy to relate to. But you can't pat yourselves on the back and say you deliberately wrote these songs. We've recorded 17 studio albums and performed for millions of people and we've always evolved."

On founding JUDAS PRIEST guitarist Kenneth "K.K." Downing's decision to leave the band and Downing's replacement, Richie Faulkner:

"Ken was having a lot of problems with his wrists. He was really struggling on the last tour. When he decided to retire from the band we were pretty much in shock. We waited three months to see what would happen. We decided if we could find the right guy we'd go on. We contacted quite a few guitar players. Richie stepped into the band and it's like he was always there. He does the essence of what Ken did, but in his own way. It's been wonderful, really, but nobody wanted to see Ken go."

On JUDAS PRIEST's twin-guitar work:

"That's also something that's evolved. It's obvious when one takes a lead guitar break, the other backs him up. We worked very hard throughout the years and it evolved. We always wanted to experiment. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't."

On JUDAS PRIEST's current "Epitaph" tour:

"With 17 studio albums, we decided to play at least one track off each album. This is our last world tour. It takes 18 months to stage a world tour. After 40 years, we decided it's possibly time to pull back a little bit. It's not absolutely the end of the band. I'd say perhaps it's the beginning of the end."

Read more from MySanAntonio.com.

 
[Maple Syrup] Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:07:00 PM 
Let me just add that I saw the Big Four at Yankee Stadium recently and Slayer was the best band there. Metallica was decent at best, tired setlist (still 4 songs from the b
lack album), no dusted old relics whatsover and they are showing their age big time. They werent very tight, played 4 ballads too (ho
hum) and you could guess which song was next. The other thing with this big four crap is there tour schedule is US one night, india in three days from now, playing back in SF in middle of october. Finally, Hetfield is still on a big ego trip saying metallica will be around forever, when in fact they are deflating quickly. I wont be back to see them anytime soon. Decent show, nothing great especially from Metallica, who is overr ated. MpleSyrp  
[.] Wednesday, October 05, 2011 11:07:34 AM 
 There are a few albums from a few bands I need to pay some more attention to: from Priest it's Nostradamus and Demolition, from Metallica it's Death Magnetic and St. Anger. I haven't paid much attention to Megadeth's stuff since ...shit, a decade. I don't think I ever paid attention to Slipknot but I might give it a listen now, they've been around for a while. The band that the guys from Priest endorse, Hostile, seems very good (as expected) so I might dig in to what they're doing. Never heard Lauren Harris stuff either, so I guess I'll dump it in my "to listen list". 
And then there are a ton of bands that mercifully don't sing in English and now I've discovered Mongolian traditional singing too. 

Lou Reed is hardly the worst that is out there, musically and Lou Reed sounds strange in the best of times. He looks weird too. But it's ok. He does the same Euro festivals that Metallica, and a host of other metal bands do too. 



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[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, October 05, 2011 7:36:24 AM 
Lets face it,with all this band has been through in the last 5 years they are still going strong with live shows but the tank is almost empty Budred. This new album is going to either going to polish the name of Judas Priest or tarnish it.  I can't wait untill its out,I just hope the song writting is up to par beings K.K. isn't part of the magical trio song writting this time around but my fingers are crossed.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, October 05, 2011 5:09:47 AM)
[Budred] Wednesday, October 05, 2011 5:09:47 AM 
I'll be honest. I don't think I gave Death Magnetic a chance because I've hated everything they put out since
the Black album. I really couldn't say whether I like it or not. At one time I thought Metallica was the only band
out their that could rival Priest. Now I just hate them. Then I watched The Big Four dvd and saw how bad James
sounds live and now I have no interest in them whatsoever.  That clip that JD posted I don't know how to take.
The music part of it sounded like it might jam but the spoken word part from Lou was a little strange. If they do
release that I'm glad they're going with a name change. It might make it a little easier to accept for Metallica diehards.
I hate bashing Metallica because I loved them so much at one time. I kept hoping they would turn into a metal band
again but after St. Anger my hope turned into hate. Sort of like what's going on in my mind with Priest right now.

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[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, October 05, 2011 5:08:03 AM 
Hell I'd be wonderin' the same thing too lol.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, October 04, 2011 10:12:46 PM)
[Head banger] Tuesday, October 04, 2011 10:12:46 PM 
ah, good then.  if you liked load over AJFA I would wonder what was in your bong
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[.] Tuesday, October 04, 2011 5:53:53 PM 
I have to say, Budred, I'm not very familiar with Metallica's work as of late but I heard one of their songs on the radio a few months back and that was from Death Magnetic, I think. I turned the AM radio on and this Metallica I never heard was blaring and good.  I remember asking if this was some old Metallica release I was that surprised.  Decades ago, when the Black Album came out, I liked it. Very melodic. Metallica always put out some great melody+speed. I don't think I like Master of Puppets like I like Ride The Lightning, which is the album that introduced me to this band. 
I have come to respect Metallica for reasons such as giving credit to the bands that inspired them in more than words and hollow tributes. 

When Metallica goes, it will be very sad indeed.    [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Tuesday, October 04, 2011 4:24:17 AM)



We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control

Teacher, leave those kids alone.

Edited at: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 5:56:07 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:24:51 PM 
Head Banger,I never said And Justice For All was "worse than Load of shit" (lol) I said I hated EVERYTHING after   ...And Justice For All wich I actually don't even like that album but although its the worst LP of the 80's for Metallica it still beats the shit out of  The Black Album,Load,Reload and everything up till now easily. 

Once this Loutallica stuff....or "shit" I should call it is out there it might be of some use for you perhaps but not me....unless somebody gave it to me free so I could smash it in pieces and slice the neck of the individual who is retarded enough to listen to it lol!

Budred yeah I know your a "NU" metal fan,I fucking hate "NU" metal and if thats the only thing left in the future to listen to thats new,then fuck it all....I'll just listen to old metal,I'll never open my mind up to anything else. Your a metalhead.......I am an old school traditional metalhead that hasn't astrayed away from the original metal ideology or aesthetics and yes I do think I'm cool for thinking like this (lol!) because I defend the old school ways only HA!  We are just two different kinds of metalheads.


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[Head banger] Tuesday, October 04, 2011 7:52:58 AM 
come on.  AJFA is not worse than Load of shit. 

over the years metalica has put out some great metal, and also some tunes that are great music but not metal.  there is a reason that they did an orchestral set.  high school band leaders pull them out when they want a "edge".  that or lady gaga apparently.  doesnt make them metal, but they are skilled songwriters.  I havent heard this lou reid stuff, but once its out there it might be of some use.  ocasionaly when a band crosses over into a new genre they end up creating some metal fans. 
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:08:29 AM)
[Budred] Tuesday, October 04, 2011 4:24:17 AM 
 My best since... comment was sarcasm.
I've hated everything they've released after (Black) and saying that is the best since says how bad they are.
Nu metal or old metal, I don't really care as long as it's heavy. I would be bored if all I listened to was old metal.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:08:29 AM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:08:29 AM 
Best Metallica you've heard since the Black album? Well,I hate everything after ...And Justice For All but this is the the "worst crap I have ever heard from craptallica" hands down. 

As I said before,Hetfield is all a sudden a huge Lou Reed fan and claims hes been one for years ect...yet I'd bet if you were to ask him ifd he likes Lou Reed back in 1986 he would of spit on you! lol!  Its all good Budred,people can like whatever they want to, I'm not a music police but its my right to think people suck for liking this bullshit. Fuck off to "nu" metal!!! lol!

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[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:01:28 AM 
WOW is what every true "metalhead" should be saying after one listen to this atrocity that is Lou Reed with Metallica. Fucking garbage to the maximum.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by acolyte55 from Monday, October 03, 2011 11:52:18 AM)
[Budred] Monday, October 03, 2011 3:59:50 PM 
Calm down J.D.(lol)
Read my post, it says best Metallica I've heard since the "Black"  album.
That's my way of saying everything since has sucked. I won't say I like or hate
this until I've heard it. As for getting into old school metal, I do, (But!!!) I like nu also.
Can't change that for anyone's liking but my own.

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[acolyte55] Monday, October 03, 2011 11:52:18 AM 
wow!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, October 03, 2011 6:47:54 AM 
This "Lou Lou" concept and first track is a fucking joke and anybody who likes it must be a fucking utterly retarded  bafoon. Budred if you like this shit please take the shotgun from shitallica,point it at your head and pull the trigger. This is a heavy metal forum its Judas Priest for christ's sake ,fuck this "NU" bullshit and get into old school metal!!!!!!!!

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[.] Monday, October 03, 2011 5:59:04 AM 
 Sorry Budred but I have to disagree, respectfully of course. The lyrics are pretty harsh/heavy/doom. This is doomier than doom metal and goth combined. It's lou-metal. I like it. And Lars use of the drums is beyond hope: because for him it's Christmas every day :-) Jingle Bells all the way ;-)

The lyrics of another of the songs are posted on Blabbermouth and I have to say they're pretty good. Metallica has earned the right to play with whomever they want. I like the poetry. 
[Budred] Monday, October 03, 2011 4:31:42 AM 
You know what really sucks?
That's some of the best Metallica that I've heard since the "Black" album.(LOL)

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