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[guidogodoy] Friday, November 26, 2010 3:34:10 PM
Hmmm. Nice commercial but now extrapolate to the airlines. The young girl and wife would now be the implicit threat. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, November 25, 2010 10:08:15 PM)
[Painkiller87] Friday, November 26, 2010 1:41:29 PM
Wow. That was a great Thanksgiving we had here. All good food and great pie. Hope everyone else here had a great turkey day! Edited at: Friday, November 26, 2010 1:41:41 PM
[Vaillant 3.0] Friday, November 26, 2010 12:37:23 PM
Ima 1337 haxor.
Cool vid, HB!! That's a very creative way to drive home a message. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, November 25, 2010 5:20:55 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Heh. Both really.
Hey, Vail. Where did you get my drawing?
spapad wrote:
Are you talking about the bird, or the game?
guidogodoy wrote:
HAAAAAAAAAAPY TURKEY DAY!
[Head banger] Thursday, November 25, 2010 10:08:15 PM
[guidogodoy] Thursday, November 25, 2010 5:20:55 PM
Heh. Both really.
Hey, Vail. Where did you get my drawing? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Thursday, November 25, 2010 1:35:12 PM)
spapad wrote:
Are you talking about the bird, or the game?
guidogodoy wrote:
HAAAAAAAAAAPY TURKEY DAY!
[Vaillant 3.0] Thursday, November 25, 2010 3:20:17 PM
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!! It's almost time to dig in here in the good ol' US of A. Mmmmmm...turkey...
(not my hand, by the way...)
[spapad] Thursday, November 25, 2010 1:35:12 PM
Are you talking about the bird, or the game? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, November 25, 2010 1:11:21 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
HAAAAAAAAAAPY TURKEY DAY!
[guidogodoy] Thursday, November 25, 2010 1:11:21 PM
HAAAAAAAAAAPY TURKEY DAY!
[spapad] Wednesday, November 24, 2010 11:32:59 PM
Congrats to him, nice to see someone at the top willing to step forward. You would not get that out of Massy. They should be named Messy. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Wednesday, November 24, 2010 11:10:59 PM)
Becks wrote:
This mine is on the South Island, so not near me. To lose 29 people, for a nation of just over 4 million, is a big shock. I have heard about the WV mine too, how eerily similar it was to here. It's sad in the WV case the company sounds very corrupt. It is fortunate that the CEO of Pike River Mine (the mine here) has fronted every media conference, is obviously shattered and has conducted himself with grace and integrity.
spapad wrote:
I did hear about that. Sad thing to have happen. How close was the mine to your area Becks?
The story sounded very familiar to a Mine tragedy in WV not long ago. Methane was the cause there too. They never stood a chance to get anyone out due to the very high levels of methane filing the mine. 33 people died. The mine was not safe to enter to retrieve the bodies for several weeks. It will surprise no one familiar with American mining that the company in charge of the mine was Massey Energy. That company is all about greed and cuting corners. They are always running Massey commercials here trying to con the public into thinking they are working to resolve these issues. Bull.
Becks wrote:
Well I want this year to be over, well and truly. It's been a shocking year for my wee country. You guys may not have seen on the news over there, but last friday a coal mine on the South Island had an explosion, which trapped 29 miners. Rescuers had not been able to go in due to the gas levels, methane mostly. And today we found out, there was a second massive explosion at the mine. Police and the mine company have said, there are no survivors, the blast was too huge
[Becks] Wednesday, November 24, 2010 11:10:59 PM
This mine is on the South Island, so not near me. To lose 29 people, for a nation of just over 4 million, is a big shock. I have heard about the WV mine too, how eerily similar it was to here. It's sad in the WV case the company sounds very corrupt. It is fortunate that the CEO of Pike River Mine (the mine here) has fronted every media conference, is obviously shattered and has conducted himself with grace and integrity. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Wednesday, November 24, 2010 5:25:52 PM)
spapad wrote:
I did hear about that. Sad thing to have happen. How close was the mine to your area Becks?
The story sounded very familiar to a Mine tragedy in WV not long ago. Methane was the cause there too. They never stood a chance to get anyone out due to the very high levels of methane filing the mine. 33 people died. The mine was not safe to enter to retrieve the bodies for several weeks. It will surprise no one familiar with American mining that the company in charge of the mine was Massey Energy. That company is all about greed and cuting corners. They are always running Massey commercials here trying to con the public into thinking they are working to resolve these issues. Bull.
Becks wrote:
Well I want this year to be over, well and truly. It's been a shocking year for my wee country. You guys may not have seen on the news over there, but last friday a coal mine on the South Island had an explosion, which trapped 29 miners. Rescuers had not been able to go in due to the gas levels, methane mostly. And today we found out, there was a second massive explosion at the mine. Police and the mine company have said, there are no survivors, the blast was too huge
[spapad] Wednesday, November 24, 2010 5:25:52 PM
I did hear about that. Sad thing to have happen. How close was the mine to your area Becks?
The story sounded very familiar to a Mine tragedy in WV not long ago. Methane was the cause there too. They never stood a chance to get anyone out due to the very high levels of methane filing the mine. 33 people died. The mine was not safe to enter to retrieve the bodies for several weeks. It will surprise no one familiar with American mining that the company in charge of the mine was Massey Energy. That company is all about greed and cuting corners. They are always running Massey commercials here trying to con the public into thinking they are working to resolve these issues. Bull. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:31:37 PM)
Becks wrote:
Well I want this year to be over, well and truly. It's been a shocking year for my wee country. You guys may not have seen on the news over there, but last friday a coal mine on the South Island had an explosion, which trapped 29 miners. Rescuers had not been able to go in due to the gas levels, methane mostly. And today we found out, there was a second massive explosion at the mine. Police and the mine company have said, there are no survivors, the blast was too huge
[acolyte55] Wednesday, November 24, 2010 3:32:10 PM
having been in the air for the 911 event- precautions are good!!! this is how i feel , anytime you feel violated ,look at the footage of the day , i have a good friend that is a fireman that told me the first firefighter death was caused by being hit by a jumper from the tower , so x ray away lol again just my feelings cheers
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 11:14:07 PM
Nope, hadn't heard a thing. Read all about it online. Right on the heels of the success story in Chile. How sad. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:31:37 PM)
Becks wrote:
Well I want this year to be over, well and truly. It's been a shocking year for my wee country. You guys may not have seen on the news over there, but last friday a coal mine on the South Island had an explosion, which trapped 29 miners. Rescuers had not been able to go in due to the gas levels, methane mostly. And today we found out, there was a second massive explosion at the mine. Police and the mine company have said, there are no survivors, the blast was too huge
[Becks] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:31:37 PM
Well I want this year to be over, well and truly. It's been a shocking year for my wee country. You guys may not have seen on the news over there, but last friday a coal mine on the South Island had an explosion, which trapped 29 miners. Rescuers had not been able to go in due to the gas levels, methane mostly. And today we found out, there was a second massive explosion at the mine. Police and the mine company have said, there are no survivors, the blast was too huge
[spapad] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:52:19 PM
I think we just need more dedicated ladies in the front line, like Shaneesha:
I'll take the full body scan when going through security at Sacramento International Airport. Hopefully it will be quick and painless.
If not, then I'll ask to be packed in a giant box with styrofoam peanuts and a giant roll of bubble wrap to pass the time while in the cargo plane. I'll even pay extra for overnight delivery.
spapad wrote:
As Thankgiving approaches, for those who shall be flying, are you looking forward to the body scan or the complete "pat down"?
Nothing like being felt up at the airport by strange people wearing latex gloves. I'm thinking I would go for full body scan. Afterall, if you look at enough naked bodies, like in art class, they all just look like nothing but objects.
[Vaillant 3.0] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:16:59 PM
I'll take the full body scan when going through security at Sacramento International Airport. Hopefully it will be quick and painless.
If not, then I'll ask to be packed in a giant box with styrofoam peanuts and a giant roll of bubble wrap to pass the time while in the cargo plane. I'll even pay extra for overnight delivery. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Monday, November 22, 2010 10:25:06 PM)
spapad wrote:
As Thankgiving approaches, for those who shall be flying, are you looking forward to the body scan or the complete "pat down"?
Nothing like being felt up at the airport by strange people wearing latex gloves. I'm thinking I would go for full body scan. Afterall, if you look at enough naked bodies, like in art class, they all just look like nothing but objects.
[Head banger] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:57:14 PM
I heard the lines were quick. not at all friendly though. well trained and armed people, not min wage. one of the pre board screeners at yyc is someone I fired for theft. now you cant disclose that... if anyone had bothered to check a reference but still.
packing us like freight is the ideal solution. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:21:20 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
I've never been to Ben Gurion Airport in Israel either but I know a lot of people who have both from this country and others. As I understand, Israel isn't exactly gun-shy there either. Their airport security isn't made up of a great number of ill-trained, minimum wage employees. From all accounts, you best show up 3 hours early to the airport and be prepared to have any electronic device taken away or even destroyed based on the slightest suspicion. A friend who worked with the Spanish Embassy and is used to such treatment even described Tel Aviv as both "polite" yet "unpleasant." Either you know and are travelling with an Israeli, ARE one or are in a tour group. All others are highly suspect.
450 airports in the USA vs. 1 in Israel hardly makes this a viable option, though. Puffer technology or, better yet, just freeze everyone and treat 'em like freight. No bomb threats, no bad food, not even the problem of getting sick from a fellow passenger if they use enough Saran Wrap. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:54:49 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they also have people with guns present all over the place, but there are no lines. I dont know, have never been there.
I will say this for having people armed at every counter. when I was in cuba and I saw the guys delivering to a bank or filling a bank machine and 5 guys with AK47s staring down everyone who was near, I crossed the street to avoid them. still a 1 hour lineup is bullshit. that bothers me more than the pat down or the guy eyballing my junk on a screen.
guidogodoy wrote:
The Israeli airport security system is less physically intrusive but is based on racial profiling. Such a system would never be authorized here in the US as, unlike Israel, minorities have strong anti-discrimination rights. More importantly, they have stronger financial and political backing in terms of lobby groups to protect those rights whereas the "common" US citizen does not.
Head banger wrote:
I guess it doesnt bother me, but I am sure there are better ways. Isreal doesnt have planes hijacked or bombed, or lineups, patdowns etc.
Edited at: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:24:11 PM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:21:20 PM
I've never been to Ben Gurion Airport in Israel either but I know a lot of people who have both from this country and others. As I understand, Israel isn't exactly gun-shy there either. Their airport security isn't made up of a great number of ill-trained, minimum wage employees. From all accounts, you best show up 3 hours early to the airport and be prepared to have any electronic device taken away or even destroyed based on the slightest suspicion. A friend who worked with the Spanish Embassy and is used to such treatment even described Tel Aviv as both "polite" yet "unpleasant." Either you know and are travelling with an Israeli, ARE one or are in a tour group. All others are highly suspect.
450 airports in the USA vs. 1 in Israel hardly makes this a viable option, though. Puffer technology or, better yet, just freeze everyone and treat 'em like freight. No bomb threats, no bad food, not even the problem of getting sick from a fellow passenger if they use enough Saran Wrap. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:54:49 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they also have people with guns present all over the place, but there are no lines. I dont know, have never been there.
I will say this for having people armed at every counter. when I was in cuba and I saw the guys delivering to a bank or filling a bank machine and 5 guys with AK47s staring down everyone who was near, I crossed the street to avoid them. still a 1 hour lineup is bullshit. that bothers me more than the pat down or the guy eyballing my junk on a screen.
guidogodoy wrote:
The Israeli airport security system is less physically intrusive but is based on racial profiling. Such a system would never be authorized here in the US as, unlike Israel, minorities have strong anti-discrimination rights. More importantly, they have stronger financial and political backing in terms of lobby groups to protect those rights whereas the "common" US citizen does not.
Head banger wrote:
I guess it doesnt bother me, but I am sure there are better ways. Isreal doesnt have planes hijacked or bombed, or lineups, patdowns etc.
Edited at: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:24:11 PM
[Head banger] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:54:49 PM
they also have people with guns present all over the place, but there are no lines. I dont know, have never been there.
I will say this for having people armed at every counter. when I was in cuba and I saw the guys delivering to a bank or filling a bank machine and 5 guys with AK47s staring down everyone who was near, I crossed the street to avoid them. still a 1 hour lineup is bullshit. that bothers me more than the pat down or the guy eyballing my junk on a screen. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:17:05 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
The Israeli airport security system is less physically intrusive but is based on racial profiling. Such a system would never be authorized here in the US as, unlike Israel, minorities have strong anti-discrimination rights. More importantly, they have stronger financial and political backing in terms of lobby groups to protect those rights whereas the "common" US citizen does not.
Head banger wrote:
I guess it doesnt bother me, but I am sure there are better ways. Isreal doesnt have planes hijacked or bombed, or lineups, patdowns etc.
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:17:05 PM
The Israeli airport security system is less physically intrusive but is based on racial profiling. Such a system would never be authorized here in the US as, unlike Israel, minorities have strong anti-discrimination rights. More importantly, they have stronger financial and political backing in terms of lobby groups to protect those rights whereas the "common" US citizen does not. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:48:27 PM)
Head banger wrote:
I guess it doesnt bother me, but I am sure there are better ways. Isreal doesnt have planes hijacked or bombed, or lineups, patdowns etc.
