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[Head banger] Monday, March 23, 2009 7:17:53 AM 
as I read the news stories, employees of Ford gm, chry... when the plants closed, they we laid off, alowed to colect state employment benefits, and paid a partial wage so total pay =85% of normal.  people who work for suppliers, dunno.  

and yes chrysler is doing it too, they are well ahead of build demand on most models.   GM did it before they were ahead, so some of the cars I ordered for feb 15 still are not built yet.
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[Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Monday, March 23, 2009 5:57:12 AM 
Honestly?  I do not know how the union's contract with Ford is structured.  Ron would be the person to better answer that question, since he works in that industry.
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[_strat_] Monday, March 23, 2009 5:15:02 AM 
Do they pay pay the wages at least?
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[Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Monday, March 23, 2009 5:09:51 AM 
Not at all strat.  There is plenty of work for Ron and the auto industry workers.  What's happening is that Ford, along with General Motors and probably Chrysler too....they shut down plants for a couple of weeks to save money.
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[_strat_] Monday, March 23, 2009 5:02:45 AM 
You mean theres no work, and theyre sending you on the "vacation" (thats how they call it here - unpaid, of course)? Damit, that sucks... Theyre doing it here too, tho fortunately, not in my section. Yet. Do you at least get paid for those three weeks?

If this shit goes on, we will all be living in huts by next year...
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[Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Monday, March 23, 2009 4:59:32 AM 
Dude!!!!   That sucks BIG TIME!!!!!  Better find something in the interim!
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[ron h] Monday, March 23, 2009 4:55:33 AM 
Not for me, the plant where I work at will be closed for 3 weeks...(thank you Ford Motor Company!!!)
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[_strat_] Monday, March 23, 2009 4:50:52 AM 
Just dropping by to say hi to both of you... I wont be on much today. Got a LOT of work.

Yup. 4 more days till friday... 6 till sunday... Then it starts all over again.
[Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Monday, March 23, 2009 4:50:23 AM 
Hell yeah I'm lucky to have her!   It's extraordinarily difficult to find someone you can just be yourself around, and puts into the relationship the same amount of passion and work that you do.
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[ron h] Monday, March 23, 2009 4:48:02 AM 
You're lucky to have her!!!...hold on to her!!!
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[Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Monday, March 23, 2009 4:44:04 AM 
Luckily for me, I forewarned her of possible crabbiness.   Needless to say, my g/f is very very caring of her man...
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[ron h] Monday, March 23, 2009 4:37:46 AM 
ooooo, that's dangerous...want to keep the g/f happy at all costs...
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[Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Monday, March 23, 2009 4:36:23 AM 
LOL...You want my job?  I didn't take my break Friday for the 2nd day in a row b/c I was so busy!   My g/f is lucky I wasn't totally crabby by the time I left to meet her for lunch.
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[ron h] Monday, March 23, 2009 4:33:27 AM 
Well, I only work 4 days a wee (m-th), but they're a loooooong 4 days...
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[Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Monday, March 23, 2009 4:30:37 AM 
Look at it this way Ron...4 more days til Friday!   Let the countdown begin!
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[Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Monday, March 23, 2009 4:29:49 AM 
Hey jerZ!  Nice to see ya back here again!  Sorry about your losses.
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[ron h] Monday, March 23, 2009 4:18:39 AM 
Good morning!!  Anyone ready for a Monday??...not me...
[Vaillant 3.0] Monday, March 23, 2009 12:05:09 AM 
Hi, JerZgirl!! Good to hear from you again!!! Sorry to hear about  your grandpa and your dog. Hopefully things will get better.  
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, March 22, 2009 10:51:06 PM 
...it almost seems like the same movie again with Nicholas Cage he just did not to long ago...the movie "Next".......? I did'nt care for that one,but humm?
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[Phantom A6] Sunday, March 22, 2009 5:08:11 PM 
Hi Heather,
welcome back sweetie.

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[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Sunday, March 22, 2009 5:06:42 PM 
Hi to all... Has anyone seen that movie out called KNOWING with Nicholas Cage.. It looks good.. It came out in theaters Friday.. Just wondering if its worth driving all the way into the city to see.
[Becks] Sunday, March 22, 2009 3:26:57 PM 
Hiya jerZgirl! I am sorry to hear of the loss of your grandad and your dog  but it is good that you are looking forward to things
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[jerZgirl] Sunday, March 22, 2009 2:13:17 PM 
Wow...haven't been here in a LONG LONG time...hope everyone is well!

I got the news Priest is touring the US again, going to be at PNC in July hopefully-no word on when tix go on sale though.

I am ok, lost my grandpa last year, lost one of my dogs last week, but I have a job that I love and good people around me...looking forward to the summertime!

Heather
[Becks] Sunday, March 22, 2009 2:13:12 PM 
Morning metal friends! Hope everyone is well today!
Freeze - I LOVE a good chili, yum! I'm growing my own chilis at the moment, hopefully I get lots of nice spicy chilis after my plants flower
MG - it is so worth going to the UK, absolutely wonderful. Paris is amazing too, just the fact it is a pretty dirty city can be a bit of a shock. But the sights to see are fantastic.
I probably should be keeping a closer eye on my toast, my cat is trying to steal it LOL!
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[Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:52:09 AM 
That's because 'Nova can hurt you in so many different ways.  Makes me proud they're right in my back yard!
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[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Sunday, March 22, 2009 9:48:28 AM 

Wow Becks... Awesome pics.. I love that stuff too.. my dream is to go to the UK.. and take the train from london over to paris, for a day and see the catacombs..   I wanted to go last fall,, didnt make the trip, had way to much stuff going on, with building a house, and moving ect..

Someday.. hopefully next fall if things pan out... would like to go for 2 weeks..

At the end of May some of the family is going to Iceland.. I decided not to go..  900.00 for 5 days, hotel and airfare..

I just wanted to save my money, for a longer trip..

Happy Sunday Everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!   Hugs MG~


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[Deep Freeze] Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:47:50 AM 
I have heard of it but I have not read it. I do not know if it is an "official" biography or not. I should think that, regardless, if there are stories in it that are unflattering to the Band, there still may be some truth to them. Hard to say.
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[DelivererofEvil] Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:45:46 AM 
Have a great Sunday Defenders!

By the way, and for something completely different from what's been going on in the thread: Has anyone bought/read Martin Popoff's book on the Priest: "Judas Priest: Heavy Metal Painkillers" ?

There's some stories in there that I don't know whether to believe or not. Any thoughts on this?
[Deep Freeze] Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:40:11 AM 
HA!!!!!!!!!!! Of course, my friend!!!!!!!
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[Phantom A6] Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:39:06 AM 
With a big bowl of your chili, of course!!
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[Deep Freeze] Sunday, March 22, 2009 7:43:12 AM 
A fine Sunday morning to you all!! Feeling a little down as my Alma Mater was destroyed yesterday by Villanova in the tournament. Ah well, it was fun while it lasted! VERY windy here in Vegas today. Expecting a storm and 40 mph winds!!!!! I am going to cook a pot of chili and watch the tourney! Perhaps there will be a crazed MetalHead or two out there to chat with during the day..? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!










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[ron h] Sunday, March 22, 2009 6:39:58 AM 
Morning Metalheads 
[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, March 22, 2009 1:44:23 AM 
I still think a Halford one would be cool! lol!
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[Becks] Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:16:42 PM 
Night Spa, sweet dreams
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[spapad] Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:15:54 PM 
Thanks Becks! Now i'm off to nighty night land! Tired. See you later!
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[Becks] Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:14:16 PM 
That's a really awesome way to look at it
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[spapad] Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:11:40 PM 
In that situation you have to put the childs needs above your own. Not to say I have never been an ass about it. when it was new I was not adjusting well at all, but now, I feel it is the most natural and healthy thing for her. Heck even me and my X can sit and have dinner together and never get on each other's nerves.
Time heals everything.

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[Becks] Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:07:59 PM 
That's great that even though you and your daughters father may not get along, you still have good ties with the rest of his family and it's also great your daughter can go there every year to spend time with that side of her family. Sounds like it all works out pretty well.
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[spapad] Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:06:29 PM 
Yep, and my daughter goes there almost every year. She gets to be with her family there. That is awesome! I wish they would come this way every now and again more often, because, I divorced my husband not his family, and I am still considered by my neice and nephew their aunt. They still love me and the family still loves me. I just couldn't get along with their son, brother whatever.  I still have good ties with the family there.
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[Becks] Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:58:24 PM 
That's awesome that you had family there, like you said, it gives you a special experience most people don't have!
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[spapad] Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:53:24 PM 
I was like that when I went to Greece. I could have spent all day taking in the sites of so many monuments, but my husband at the time felt it to be old hat for him. Grow up around it and you don't appreciate it. I took 30 rolls of film while there for 5 weeks. I was very determined to get all I could recorded. I loved being there and the fact I had family there just made it that much sweeter. Got to see a side of the country most don't see.
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[Becks] Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:47:39 PM 
Cheers Spa! It really is a fabulous place, I love it. Scotland is rich in history and is beautiful. London is an awesome city, for those in to history I very highly recommend the Tower of London, it's mind bogglingly fantastic LOL. We EASILY spent half a day there, we had to leave cos it was closing time
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[spapad] Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:41:55 PM 
Awesome Pics Beck. Would love to go there someday! Fabulous!
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[Becks] Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:37:51 PM 
MG - my husband and I went to the Paris Catacombs earlier this year, very cool! Gotta get there early though as the line is huge, they only allow a certain number of people inside at any one time. Very morbid lol. Here's me at the catacombs lol.



One of the awesomest things we did over in the UK was jump the fence to go to Urquhart Castle (on the shore on Loch Ness) at 10:30pm at night (our tour guide took us LOL so we didn't have to pay the usual 7 pound entry fee haha). It was very eerie and creepy cos the castle had a green light on it and you could hear the water of the Loch below. Just being in a place like that you can feel the history.



LOL I have so many photos of cool historical stuff you can see in the UK and Paris! It's amazing what history there is there.
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[Necroticist] Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:27:32 PM 
I'm out too - TC all - see ya tomorrow if i get time...
[spapad] Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:25:21 PM 
Poor Soy got his face rubbed in it tonight. LOL Night MG~ Pleasant Metal Dreams
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[spapad] Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:21:20 PM 

As a chic! I want little dolls just like them! LOL so I can set them on my bed when it's made. LOL
Good to see you Darth! I so rarely have the pleasure!


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[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:20:06 PM 

Me too its cute... I wouldnt give Ian Braids though.. LOL  

well Iam off.  Until tomorrow my Metal family... Nity nite.....

Soy... dont be a spoiled sport.... LOL 

Hugs to you all  MG~


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[Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:18:00 PM 
HAAAAAAA!   That's fucking cool!   Tho Mini Priest would definitely be better!
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[hellrider 31038] Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:16:29 PM 
hey delivererofevil it was a small paaaaaaainlillllllller patch.yeah i was hoping you would see it before the auction ended.when i posted it for you there was like 11 hours left   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by DelivererofEvil from Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:20:13 PM)
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