| [Becks] Thursday, June 24, 2010 12:14:16 AM | |
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Ahhhhh so it's the first time they've topped their group since 1930. Thanks Guids!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:07:09 PM)| |  | guidogodoy wrote: | | Sorry...been rebuilding yet another computer. What fun.
To answer the question, Budred, you heard right. While Becks is right about the Semi's, the reference to the 1930s is also correct. It is the first time since the 1930s that the USA WON ITS WC GROUP! You aren't going deaf or crazy, Bud.
Not to take anything away from them but 1930 was the first official FIFA WC and only a dozen or so countries participated. Still, it was an upset then as well.
| | | Budred wrote: | | | GUIDO????? |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:31:40 PM | |
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Best of luck to the USA when they face Ghana this Saturday. Just might go to the local bar after work to see that match.  |
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| [guidogodoy] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:08:23 PM | |
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Here...just to confirm what I already knew:
"It is the first time since 1930 that the U.S. won its World Cup group. On Saturday, the U.S. will play the second qualifier from Group D, Ghana, in the Round of 16."
seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/worldcup/2012192526_wcup24.html
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| [guidogodoy] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:07:09 PM | |
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Sorry...been rebuilding yet another computer. What fun.
To answer the question, Budred, you heard right. While Becks is right about the Semi's, the reference to the 1930s is also correct. It is the first time since the 1930s that the USA WON ITS WC GROUP! You aren't going deaf or crazy, Bud.
Not to take anything away from them but 1930 was the first official FIFA WC and only a dozen or so countries participated. Still, it was an upset then as well.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:33:08 PM)| | | Budred wrote: | | | GUIDO????? |
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| [spapad] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:19:42 PM | |
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Bleary eyed and tired myself. Goin off to bed without watching it all. Oh well. Must sleep to go to the place that makes me want to sleep.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:00:40 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL that's fair enough. I'm fortunate that I don't have work tomorrow, I'm on days off, so it won't hurt me too much, but poor old Craig will be bleary eyed in the morning at work LOL.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I guess I wont get to see the whole game. It finally came on and instead of the condensed version, since it was so late I guess they are going to show it all, but I can't stay up that late without falling asleep at my desk about 2:00 pm tomorrow. lol
| | | Becks wrote: | | Ah that sucks! We have highlights packages on for an hour before the news each night which is good. The games themselves are on in the middle of the night. No matter tonight cos I will be getting up for the 2am kickoff of NZ vs Paraguay! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I miss it all as its on when I'm at work. Was hoping to catch the condensed games tonight but NO a baseball game is on. That is like death by boredom to me. The only major leauge game I saw, I found the beer man in the stands and told him to keep them comming as the game bored me to tears. I also had my obnoxious Chicago cousin yelling non stop insults at the umpire. Never so glad for a game to be over. lol
| | | Becks wrote: | | | Found it. The dude who 'scored' was offside. Fair enough call as far as I could see. The US player struck the ball, it hit the post and went back to him, by which time the dude was in an offside position. Not by much, but I think it was a fair enough call. |
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| [Head banger] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:02:46 PM | |
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and if its that close the defender should have a shot at a decent defence. the refs do a damn hard job quite well. comentators need something to bitch about. its like player blaming the weather or the pitch, its the same for both teams. players bitching about the ref should get a yelow card first word.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:39:27 PM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Yeah, that is true, there are close calls, and sometimes its really down to centimeters... But then again, if you go splitting hairs like that, youre totaly missing the point of the offside rule, which is to prevent a team ganging up in the opponents penalty area, and force them into being a bit more inventive.
IDK... I still think that refs are fine. Not always - most of the times. And players complaining about decisions doesnt change them either.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | its still a bitch to get in the right spot and see at the right time. lots of bloody close calls on offside. having worked as a linesman (before it was called referees assistant) I know that you will for sure miss things.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Refs never call games of their own countries.
There are two assistant refs on the sides, that see very well any offsides, and they usualy inform the main ref about them.
| | | ron h wrote: | | I tend to like the human element with regards to officiating, no matter the sport. I think we've all been on both sides of a bad call and it's weird because we only complain when it goes against us, yet cheer when we get lucky.
ALL of these off-sides calls are pure judgement calls as the action is fast and they have to make calls in a split-second. We fans watching on the TV really only know after seeing the slow-motion replay. 'Off-sides' seems to be the big difference maker this year, for a number of teams and not just the U.S. Although that sucks, there's been triple as many shots on goal going off the bar instead of in the net, I'm more concerned about that!!
I tend to think the sport needs better traing, maybe more ref's on the field or ref's not calling games of their own home countries (maybe that's a rule that's already in place, I don't know). What I do know is that if the U.S. made the goals they should have throughout the tournament, today would not have been so critical a match. |
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| [Becks] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:00:40 PM | |
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LOL that's fair enough. I'm fortunate that I don't have work tomorrow, I'm on days off, so it won't hurt me too much, but poor old Craig will be bleary eyed in the morning at work LOL.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:58:43 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | I guess I wont get to see the whole game. It finally came on and instead of the condensed version, since it was so late I guess they are going to show it all, but I can't stay up that late without falling asleep at my desk about 2:00 pm tomorrow. lol
| | | Becks wrote: | | Ah that sucks! We have highlights packages on for an hour before the news each night which is good. The games themselves are on in the middle of the night. No matter tonight cos I will be getting up for the 2am kickoff of NZ vs Paraguay! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I miss it all as its on when I'm at work. Was hoping to catch the condensed games tonight but NO a baseball game is on. That is like death by boredom to me. The only major leauge game I saw, I found the beer man in the stands and told him to keep them comming as the game bored me to tears. I also had my obnoxious Chicago cousin yelling non stop insults at the umpire. Never so glad for a game to be over. lol
| | | Becks wrote: | | | Found it. The dude who 'scored' was offside. Fair enough call as far as I could see. The US player struck the ball, it hit the post and went back to him, by which time the dude was in an offside position. Not by much, but I think it was a fair enough call. |
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| [spapad] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:58:43 PM | |
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I guess I wont get to see the whole game. It finally came on and instead of the condensed version, since it was so late I guess they are going to show it all, but I can't stay up that late without falling asleep at my desk about 2:00 pm tomorrow. lol
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:43:50 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | Ah that sucks! We have highlights packages on for an hour before the news each night which is good. The games themselves are on in the middle of the night. No matter tonight cos I will be getting up for the 2am kickoff of NZ vs Paraguay! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I miss it all as its on when I'm at work. Was hoping to catch the condensed games tonight but NO a baseball game is on. That is like death by boredom to me. The only major leauge game I saw, I found the beer man in the stands and told him to keep them comming as the game bored me to tears. I also had my obnoxious Chicago cousin yelling non stop insults at the umpire. Never so glad for a game to be over. lol
| | | Becks wrote: | | | Found it. The dude who 'scored' was offside. Fair enough call as far as I could see. The US player struck the ball, it hit the post and went back to him, by which time the dude was in an offside position. Not by much, but I think it was a fair enough call. |
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| [Becks] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:43:50 PM | |
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Ah that sucks! We have highlights packages on for an hour before the news each night which is good. The games themselves are on in the middle of the night. No matter tonight cos I will be getting up for the 2am kickoff of NZ vs Paraguay! LOL!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:53:14 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | I miss it all as its on when I'm at work. Was hoping to catch the condensed games tonight but NO a baseball game is on. That is like death by boredom to me. The only major leauge game I saw, I found the beer man in the stands and told him to keep them comming as the game bored me to tears. I also had my obnoxious Chicago cousin yelling non stop insults at the umpire. Never so glad for a game to be over. lol
| | | Becks wrote: | | | Found it. The dude who 'scored' was offside. Fair enough call as far as I could see. The US player struck the ball, it hit the post and went back to him, by which time the dude was in an offside position. Not by much, but I think it was a fair enough call. |
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| [spapad] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:53:14 PM | |
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I miss it all as its on when I'm at work. Was hoping to catch the condensed games tonight but NO a baseball game is on. That is like death by boredom to me. The only major leauge game I saw, I found the beer man in the stands and told him to keep them comming as the game bored me to tears. I also had my obnoxious Chicago cousin yelling non stop insults at the umpire. Never so glad for a game to be over. lol
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:46:13 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | | Found it. The dude who 'scored' was offside. Fair enough call as far as I could see. The US player struck the ball, it hit the post and went back to him, by which time the dude was in an offside position. Not by much, but I think it was a fair enough call. |
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| [Becks] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:46:13 PM | |
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| Found it. The dude who 'scored' was offside. Fair enough call as far as I could see. The US player struck the ball, it hit the post and went back to him, by which time the dude was in an offside position. Not by much, but I think it was a fair enough call. |
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| [Becks] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:40:44 PM | |
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I didn't see the disallowed goal and haven't heard anything about it - must find highlights video! Wonder if the Fifa.com video will show it - those highlights videos are way too short.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:36:20 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | I was frankly amazed they squeked by today. Notice yet another disqualified goal. I don't really care too much as the refs have all the say, but I do think what Strat said and I said about inernational sports is applicable, you sometimes have to think was that call biased motivated or a true call?
It does happen in the Olympics and would not supprise me to happen here. Not saying today's call was rubbish, but I do think it's time they backed up their calls with video. All sports do it. Seems way too old school not to. I'm sure HB will come in and tell me what for. I'm a namby pamby lol! HA!! But I was also pissed off tonight about the amount of time commercials now take up in commercial breaks here. Used to be two minutes two seconds, which is all the average human can stand. I timed a break at 3:30 on one show tonight and that is just pissing me off. Make it stop!!! LOL
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL fair enough. Wonder what it was that hasn't been done since 1930. I'm interested to find out now LOL!
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| [spapad] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:36:20 PM | |
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I was frankly amazed they squeked by today. Notice yet another disqualified goal. I don't really care too much as the refs have all the say, but I do think what Strat said and I said about inernational sports is applicable, you sometimes have to think was that call biased motivated or a true call?
It does happen in the Olympics and would not supprise me to happen here. Not saying today's call was rubbish, but I do think it's time they backed up their calls with video. All sports do it. Seems way too old school not to. I'm sure HB will come in and tell me what for. I'm a namby pamby lol! HA!! But I was also pissed off tonight about the amount of time commercials now take up in commercial breaks here. Used to be two minutes two seconds, which is all the average human can stand. I timed a break at 3:30 on one show tonight and that is just pissing me off. Make it stop!!! LOL
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:26:24 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL fair enough. Wonder what it was that hasn't been done since 1930. I'm interested to find out now LOL!
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| [Becks] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:39:07 PM | |
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Ahhh it's no biggie, the US have done well to get to the round of 16 considering they started shakily. Who cares about the past, focus on the next game I say LOL!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:35:20 PM)| | | Budred wrote: | | | P.S. I'm fallible. This could be a mistake on my part? |
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| [Budred] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:35:20 PM | |
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| P.S. I'm fallible. This could be a mistake on my part? |
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| [Budred] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:33:08 PM | |
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| [Becks] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:26:24 PM | |
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LOL fair enough. Wonder what it was that hasn't been done since 1930. I'm interested to find out now LOL!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:16:55 PM) |
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| [Budred] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:16:55 PM | |
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| [Becks] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:45:10 PM | |
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Your commentators were misinformed. In the 2002 world cup, the US made it to the quarter finals, losing 1-0 to eventual finalists Germany.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:18:26 PM)| | | Budred wrote: | | Did any one notice that goal in extra minutes by the americans.
OK, so I'm not a soccer fan but I am an American. I watched the last 6 minutes of that game
and hearing the announcers talk about how they have not gotten out of the opening round since
1930 and how they needed a (near)miracle to pull it off and then watching them do it. Sorry, but that was
pretty exciting. Good job guys. Congrats! |
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| [Budred] Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:18:26 PM | |
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Did any one notice that goal in extra minutes by the americans.
OK, so I'm not a soccer fan but I am an American. I watched the last 6 minutes of that game
and hearing the announcers talk about how they have not gotten out of the opening round since
1930 and how they needed a (near)miracle to pull it off and then watching them do it. Sorry, but that was
pretty exciting. Good job guys. Congrats! |
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