| [K2M] Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:28:43 PM | |
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Cool links Guitardude. Yes, that is why i love tubes. THey have a ramp or sag when they are sounding on and off. I am using An ADA mp1 And a PEAVEY CLASSIC 60/60 or 120. I never got into the MESA BOOGIE. I went with Marshalls. I like the passive pickups I use THhe screamimhg dempn on a couple of my axes. It is
a mid output pickup. I dig a lower input voltage concept, then boost it in the Amp.
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| [guitardude] Wednesday, June 11, 2008 5:42:37 PM | |
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K2M
Check this out www.tubedepot.com they have some great info on all different types of tubes.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by K2M from Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:33:21 PM)| |  | K2M wrote: | | Yes it lloks like the 5AR4. is a rectifer tube. Is that like a voltage multiplier. I wonder if that thing blows as Hot
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| [guitardude] Wednesday, June 11, 2008 5:18:46 PM | |
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Rectifier tubes do just that ,they rectify (controlling voltage) They change AC to DC and feed the power tubes their operating voltage. Now when you dig in hard to play,the tubes will "sag" due to the rectifier tube not completely keeping up the voltage to the tubes. This gives kind of a natural compression. EVH would drive his tubes above and beyond with output power,but would limit his input voltage to the amp with a variac. This was very much the "key" to his brown sound back then.
Now amps that use a "silicon diode" chip to supply the voltage are much more consistent with their output. Go to
www.mesaboogie.com and look at the Road King head,it gives you a choice between the recifier tube or the silicon diode.
The rectifier tubes are really an old school way of doing things(but damn it sounds good!!)
Some classic Marshall Reissues have a recifier tube,like the Jemi hendrix model and I`m not sure about anymore.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by K2M from Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:33:21 PM)| | | K2M wrote: | | Yes it lloks like the 5AR4. is a rectifer tube. Is that like a voltage multiplier. I wonder if that thing blows as Hot
as the price tag. I just wouldnt try. Everything else is compelling except the size. I guess for moderate volumes this unit would excell. |
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| [K2M] Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:33:21 PM | |
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Yes it lloks like the 5AR4. is a rectifer tube. Is that like a voltage multiplier. I wonder if that thing blows as Hot
as the price tag. I just wouldnt try. Everything else is compelling except the size. I guess for moderate volumes this unit would excell. |
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| [guitardude] Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:52:40 PM | |
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I`m not sure of the exact model I played thru at a little shop.I believe it was the Seville(?).I know that it had the 6L6`s as they were large tubes.The 6V6`s are not as small in relation to the6L6`s as the 84`s are to the 34`s.The EL-34`s are not that big anyway.
I believe the 5AR4 is the rectifier tube in this case,rather than the 12at7. But I could be wrong here...?
But that amp I played had one 12 that was off center , there was enough room for two 12`s in there though.
MG
No worries at cutting in, more input and opinions are always welcome. I`ve jumped in on a many of conversations myself. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by K2M from Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:17:02 PM)
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Thanks Guitar Dude. have you had any expirience with them. I stayed away from the peavey classic 50 because it was loaded with the EL84's. I like the Bigger tubes. And yes on the Rectifier tube the 12 AT, I indicated it as the (+1).
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The 6V6`s are similiar to the 6L6`s,the way a EL-84 is to a EL-34.
Plus did you notice the rectifier tube listed in there?
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Wow!!!! All them tubes. 3+1 in the pre. nad 2 6V6's. Prob a nice and bubly amp.
I have'nt heard of a 6V6. I guess the 6L6 is a bigger power tube. The prise is steep. 15watt, 10'speaker
The jensen is probably a good choice there. A cone with more of the high end freq. focus |
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:31:32 PM | |
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LOL Iam glad you laughed I was worried you guys would be mad I cut into your guitar conversation,.....LOL sorry..LMAO I really couldnt resisit!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by K2M from Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:22:25 PM)| | | K2M wrote: | | | That is cute. momma. kinda made my day here at work. |
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| [K2M] Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:22:25 PM | |
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| That is cute. momma. kinda made my day here at work. |
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:19:17 PM | |
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(+1) is the negative square root of the 12 equaling 6.5.. lol Just kidding you guys I couldnt resist..............
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by K2M from Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:17:02 PM)| | | K2M wrote: | | Thanks Guitar Dude. have you had any expirience with them. I stayed away from the peavey classic 50 because it was loaded with the EL84's. I like the Bigger tubes. And yes on the Rectifier tube the 12 AT, I indicated it as the (+1).
| | | guitardude wrote: | | The 6V6`s are similiar to the 6L6`s,the way a EL-84 is to a EL-34.
Plus did you notice the rectifier tube listed in there?
| | | K2M wrote: | | Wow!!!! All them tubes. 3+1 in the pre. nad 2 6V6's. Prob a nice and bubly amp.
I have'nt heard of a 6V6. I guess the 6L6 is a bigger power tube. The prise is steep. 15watt, 10'speaker
The jensen is probably a good choice there. A cone with more of the high end freq. focus |
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| [K2M] Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:17:02 PM | |
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Thanks Guitar Dude. have you had any expirience with them. I stayed away from the peavey classic 50 because it was loaded with the EL84's. I like the Bigger tubes. And yes on the Rectifier tube the 12 AT, I indicated it as the (+1).
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guitardude from Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:30:45 PM)| | | guitardude wrote: | | The 6V6`s are similiar to the 6L6`s,the way a EL-84 is to a EL-34.
Plus did you notice the rectifier tube listed in there?
| | | K2M wrote: | | Wow!!!! All them tubes. 3+1 in the pre. nad 2 6V6's. Prob a nice and bubly amp.
I have'nt heard of a 6V6. I guess the 6L6 is a bigger power tube. The prise is steep. 15watt, 10'speaker
The jensen is probably a good choice there. A cone with more of the high end freq. focus |
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| [guitardude] Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:30:45 PM | |
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The 6V6`s are similiar to the 6L6`s,the way a EL-84 is to a EL-34.
Plus did you notice the rectifier tube listed in there?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by K2M from Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:05:38 PM)| | | K2M wrote: | | Wow!!!! All them tubes. 3+1 in the pre. nad 2 6V6's. Prob a nice and bubly amp.
I have'nt heard of a 6V6. I guess the 6L6 is a bigger power tube. The prise is steep. 15watt, 10'speaker
The jensen is probably a good choice there. A cone with more of the high end freq. focus |
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| [K2M] Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:05:38 PM | |
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Wow!!!! All them tubes. 3+1 in the pre. nad 2 6V6's. Prob a nice and bubly amp.
I have'nt heard of a 6V6. I guess the 6L6 is a bigger power tube. The prise is steep. 15watt, 10'speaker
The jensen is probably a good choice there. A cone with more of the high end freq. focus |
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| [guitardude] Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:45:03 AM | |
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An amp like that is for the purists among us that only true tube tone will do.I have played thru a similiar amp that Fender has and it`s a very good little amp.
Modifying Fender amps is how Randall Smith got his start ,and now look where Mesa Boogie is at. It all has to start somewhere,and a small amp like this is a good place to start,now if it weren`t so expensive!!
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:51:00 AM | |
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| [guitardude] Sunday, June 08, 2008 8:37:30 PM | |
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SDB,no worries about that pick. I must admit that I got a grin out of the "DreamState" comment,though I know it`s totally un-related.
Good luck getting all your affairs in order.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by SDBinNY from Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:07:16 PM)| | | SDBinNY wrote: | | Thanks everyone, they are my "other kids"..
I know I haven't been around much, but my wife and I are trying to get our own business out of dreamstate and into reality. We have been eyeball deep in classes and government requirements. It hasn't manifested into anything physical as of yet, but there are many more factors involved than anticipated. In the midst of getting all this crap sorted out, we had to replace the roof on the house...
Guitardude.. I haven't forgotten about the pick, I just haven't been able to get there while the place is open. My Cat parts guy has one waiting for me the next time I have to run over there... |
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:14:48 PM | |
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Hello SDB in NY.. Good luck to you and you're wife with youre new Buisness Venture.. I wish you both the best. I completley understand about having lots to sort out. Iam having a house built in Canada from the US. and am trying to stay sane in the mean time.. Hopefully It will all work out. and I will get to move to Canada soon.
Hugs to you
M
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by SDBinNY from Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:07:16 PM)| | | SDBinNY wrote: | | Thanks everyone, they are my "other kids"..
I know I haven't been around much, but my wife and I are trying to get our own business out of dreamstate and into reality. We have been eyeball deep in classes and government requirements. It hasn't manifested into anything physical as of yet, but there are many more factors involved than anticipated. In the midst of getting all this crap sorted out, we had to replace the roof on the house...
Guitardude.. I haven't forgotten about the pick, I just haven't been able to get there while the place is open. My Cat parts guy has one waiting for me the next time I have to run over there... |
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| [SDBinNY] Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:07:16 PM | |
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Thanks everyone, they are my "other kids"..
I know I haven't been around much, but my wife and I are trying to get our own business out of dreamstate and into reality. We have been eyeball deep in classes and government requirements. It hasn't manifested into anything physical as of yet, but there are many more factors involved than anticipated. In the midst of getting all this crap sorted out, we had to replace the roof on the house...
Guitardude.. I haven't forgotten about the pick, I just haven't been able to get there while the place is open. My Cat parts guy has one waiting for me the next time I have to run over there... |
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Sunday, June 08, 2008 5:31:54 PM | |
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SDBinNY.... you ROCK!!!!!!!!! I remember when you sent me this pic not that long ago,, of all youre guitars.. I love the blue jackson 2nd to youre left.. my fav..
Yes every wife girlfriend..ect.. that lives with any musician should be allowed to have as many shoes boots purses she want..lol .. Iam spoiled in that way myself...
Iam glad to see you hear.. I wondered what happend to ya for a while.. Stay close my friend.. Hugs to you and you're family.. MG
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by SDBinNY from Saturday, June 07, 2008 9:52:02 PM)| | | SDBinNY wrote: | | Here you go Guitardude... Had all the C/J's out today and snapped a family portrait...
By the way... Goddess... My wife can have ALLLLL the purses she wants....
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| [guitardude] Sunday, June 08, 2008 12:33:13 PM | |
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Man ,now that`s a family outing I would love to attend!! I`d be a babbling idiot around all that hardware!!
Damn SDB,those are awesome!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by SDBinNY from Saturday, June 07, 2008 9:52:02 PM)| | | SDBinNY wrote: | | Here you go Guitardude... Had all the C/J's out today and snapped a family portrait...
By the way... Goddess... My wife can have ALLLLL the purses she wants....
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| [guidogodoy] Sunday, June 08, 2008 1:39:08 AM | |
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 Thanks. I love to see them as well. Awesome.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by SDBinNY from Saturday, June 07, 2008 9:52:02 PM)| | | SDBinNY wrote: | | Here you go Guitardude... Had all the C/J's out today and snapped a family portrait...
By the way... Goddess... My wife can have ALLLLL the purses she wants....
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| [SDBinNY] Saturday, June 07, 2008 9:52:02 PM | |
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Here you go Guitardude... Had all the C/J's out today and snapped a family portrait...
By the way... Goddess... My wife can have ALLLLL the purses she wants....
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