Well I think we can agree on that Becks. Although I'm not going list my top ten Priest albums. Baha! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:21:58 PM)
Becks wrote:
Glad to see we agree about something Brian LOL!
Brian_Evans wrote:
I agree, Priest are the Metal Gods.
[Becks] Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:21:58 PM
Glad to see we agree about something Brian LOL! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:20:17 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
I agree, Priest are the Metal Gods.
[Brian_Evans] Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:20:17 PM
I agree, Priest are the Metal Gods.
[Becks] Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:17:45 PM
LOL HRMG! Hell yeah, Priest are the Metal Gods for a reason! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:55:24 PM)
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
"I'll stay here and discuss one of the greatest metal bands of all time that cast a huge shadow on many a metal band."
Last I looked Brian, this is the JUDAS PRIEST WEBSITE
Do you have anything to say about THE BEST METAL BAND IN THE WORLD - JUDAS PRIEST? Or are you just going to go on and on and on about Iron Maiden just like one of Iron Maidens long and boring songs?
Brian_Evans wrote:
"I'm with ya,I'm out of this thread too..."
Fine! Good! I'm getting tired of your lame Top Ten metal philosophy anyway. lol! All you can say is top ten this and top ten that, Maiden is a "Joke". You're a really bad broken record man. I guess you finally realized you've been defeated in here. Go back to the Saxon thread and list your top ten Saxon albums. Bahaa! I'll stay here and discuss one of the greatest metal bands of all time that cast a huge shadow on many a metal band. UP THE IRONS! And take your giddyupgoboy friend with ya. And just because jimmyjames came up with that setlist doesn't means he "defends" current Maiden. And if he does what skin is it off of your nose? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:54:56 PM) Edited at: Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:51:56 PM
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:55:24 PM
"I'll stay here and discuss one of the greatest metal bands of all time that cast a huge shadow on many a metal band."
Last I looked Brian, this is the JUDAS PRIEST WEBSITE
Do you have anything to say about THE BEST METAL BAND IN THE WORLD - JUDAS PRIEST? Or are you just going to go on and on and on about Iron Maiden just like one of Iron Maidens long and boring songs? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:30:15 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
"I'm with ya,I'm out of this thread too..."
Fine! Good! I'm getting tired of your lame Top Ten metal philosophy anyway. lol! All you can say is top ten this and top ten that, Maiden is a "Joke". You're a really bad broken record man. I guess you finally realized you've been defeated in here. Go back to the Saxon thread and list your top ten Saxon albums. Bahaa! I'll stay here and discuss one of the greatest metal bands of all time that cast a huge shadow on many a metal band. UP THE IRONS! And take your giddyupgoboy friend with ya. And just because jimmyjames came up with that setlist doesn't means he "defends" current Maiden. And if he does what skin is it off of your nose? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:54:56 PM) Edited at: Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:51:56 PM
[Brian_Evans] Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:30:15 PM
"I'm with ya,I'm out of this thread too..."
Fine! Good! I'm getting tired of your lame Top Ten metal philosophy anyway. lol! All you can say is top ten this and top ten that, Maiden is a "Joke". You're a really bad broken record man. I guess you finally realized you've been defeated in here. Go back to the Saxon thread and list your top ten Saxon albums. Bahaa! I'll stay here and discuss one of the greatest metal bands of all time that cast a huge shadow on many a metal band. UP THE IRONS! And take your giddyupgoboy friend with ya. And just because jimmyjames came up with that setlist doesn't means he "defends" current Maiden. And if he does what skin is it off of your nose? UP THE IRONS AGAIN!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:54:56 PM) Edited at: Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:57:06 PM
[guidogodoy] Saturday, March 27, 2010 6:09:53 PM
Like playing racquetball against a damp sponge, isn't it? LOL!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:54:56 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I agree,Iron Maiden is a bad fucking "JOKE" thats overrated next to Shitallica. I can't fathom it and I too find it hard to belive that Jimmy defends current Iron Maiden as well,and yeah I know the rip off Brian_Evans is a shit disturber but I thrive on arguing(lol!) and I live for it,its in my blood,where he and all shit disturbers think they are "getting to me" as they call it,I am laughing my ass off smokin' a bowl because I love to argue HAHA!
But you stand correct Guido,this thread was,is and will always be a farce and a mear joke,we know the shinanigins behind this curtain and I don't think Brian_Evans like Iron Maiden "this much" he has only portrayed it to get a rise out of anybody who will engage into it,and again I've only given him the pleasure only because I thrive on arguing HAHA!! Not me Guido? LOL!!! I'm with ya,I'm out of this thread too...
Oh before I go...."DOWN THE IRONS"
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd have one song. I think that Maiden is now a bad joke. While there is no comparison to someone who runs an internet radio station vs. a radio station of old where you actually had to prove yourself (much like blogs now where every idiot and his brother could have his say provided you knew how to work a computer) I find it hard that you could defend current Maiden. IMO, the current Brian_Evans is a shitdisturber (yeah, two people could be named the same but doubtful). This thread has turned into a farce and I am out of it.
There is but one band to rule them all.
jimmyjames wrote:
How about a Maiden setlist from you that only contains songs from 1990 to now?
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
First off...(rolling my eyes back and refering to Brian's nitpicky post) hey jimmy james.........and I'm the one being fucking anal"?? LMMFAO at jimmy!!! PLease.
Second,yes I do like A Matter Of Life And Death dumb shit, and I said its thier best work since the Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son album and it "IS" a great albumfor "Iron Maiden" because Iron Maiden writes shit albums one right after the other,so for Iron maiden it IS a "great album". If it were Saxon that wrote it is would "suck". If Judas Priest wrote it is would "suck" because those bands could do 100% better than Iron Maiden and those bands kick Iron Maiden's ass up between thier shoulders just like I do to you on a regular basis Brian HA!
But for Iron Maiden yes it is a great album because of how much they fuckin suck. Those "8" songs I do like,and yes some of it does remind me of Piece Of Mind and Powerslave in spots but they are nowhere near the "greatness" of albums such as "Iron Maiden,Killers,The Number Of The Beast,Piece Of Mind and Powerslave and even Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son" nowhere even close Brian.
I can easily side A Matter Of Life And Death in with shit albums from 1990 - to 2003's shit album Dance Of Death,I have always given AMOLAD a break because of how shitty Iron Maiden's song writting skills are so what your saying again is a mear joke,you failed yet again shit for brains,face it you can't top me and never will because your not smart enough haha!
Just because I said it was "great" I never said "how great" and for a shit band like Iron Maiden it "is great" I'll take it and it doesn't mean-that I side it in with those elite albums as I've said. Wich is a far cry from a contradiction like you are consistantly dickhead lol! Down The Irons lofao!!!!!
(Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Friday, March 26, 2010 9:43:53 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Oh god that would fuckin suck balls lol! I would hate to see that live,there are 13 tracks that are listed there that make me puke but again to each his own. I guess I really don't like this band,I like thier 1980's stuff and that is to me a different band altogether. Its just the song writting that kills it for me,I'll never hear another new Iron Maiden album that I like and can compare to elite albums such as the band's first 5 studio albums. And as for seeing this shit band live no freakin way,if I hate the new album I'll not see em' live and that goes for any band's new album.
This is all opinions again mine isn't the final say but for me personally being a fan of Iron Maiden since 1982 I've been let down with every album starting from 1986's Somewhere In Time" all the way till now,sure I like bits and pieces here and there but I can never get a kick ass product from Iron maiden and its a shame and a let down for me.This band is dead and I have to face it,they will never put out a studio album that I like all the way through again. Down the Irons.
jimmyjames wrote:
Ok here is a setlist compiled only of songs from 1990 and later. Out of respect I have not included anything from the Blaze Bayley era. This actually only gives me five albums to work with. No Prayer, Fear, Brave New World, Dance Of Death and AMOLAD. I have tried to pick tracks that I think would sound good live. In some cases they are not that great on the album but in a live setting would be cool.
1) Be Quick Or Be Dead
2) The Wicker Man
3) Montsegur
4) Out Of the Shadows
5) Holy Smoke
6) Ghost Of The Navigator
7) Paschendale
8) From Here To Eternity
9) Lord Of Light
10) Wildest Dreams
11) Running Silent, Running Deep
12) The Reincarnation Of Benjamin Breeg
13) Face In The Sand
14) Brighter Than A Thousand Suns
15) Fear Is The Key
16) Rainmaker
17) Tailgunner
18) The Mercenary
19) Bring Your Daughter To The Slaughter
20) Fear Of the Dark
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Thats cool jimmy,we can't all agree on everything however,I do see why you like Somewhere In Time and not really thrilled about the last 2f the band's career as neither am I. The track that kills me that I freaking HATE is "Heaven Can Wait"...oohhh that song,the chorus spanks of bad ideas and Bruce's voice is extremely irritating when he sings it. AARRGGHH. That song and the chorus to the opening track Caught Somewhere In Time is almost equally irritatiing to me just as the AMOLAD is irritating to almost everyone else.
So how about a Maiden tour with just them playing songs from 1990 -2006? That to me would be absolutely lame.
jimmyjames wrote:
Somewhere In Time is the most under-rated Maiden album. I don't think it has a weak track. Some people might say De Ja Vu, Sea Of Madness or The Loneliness Of The Long Distance Runner are not that great but I reckon they are cool songs. It also has top notch cover artwork and three songs that are Maiden classics, Wasted Years, Stranger In A Strange Land and Heaven Can Wait.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
WOW. I'm impressed...somebody who isn't afraid of listing Iron Maiden albums however I am utterly "shocked" at how you list Somewhere In Time over Killers,Piece Of mind,Iron Maiden and Powerslave....from 1986 when it came out till now I'm still trying to figure out what is good about this album I can't take any of it,not even one song but I must have to say to each his own. At least this is "an opinion" and your not saying "oh gaga everything they do is equally excellent". I agree that AMOLAD is boring,even though I do like most of it it isn't anywhere near,not even near thier first 5 studio albums(1980 - 1984).
Whats also interesting is your first 7 albums listed are all from the 1980's and my first 6 albums are also from the 1980's and the rest is all rated as "aeh..ok" to "shit" from both our opionions. I can't even fathom how many people/fans have said the same thing year after year that the 80's material is the band's best and everything else is "ah...ok I guess"...everybody nowadays just wants to see the band "live" because they can't "get anything special" out of thier albums from 1990 till now,they just can't get anything they want from these less than average albums.
I'd like to see how many people would go see Iron Maiden if they were to only play songs from the shitty albums from 1990 No Prayer For The Dying to now with A Matter Of life And Death"...1990 - 2006 no "Number Of The Beast" song no nothing just those albums from 1990 to 2006,I'm sure they would still pack em' in because of how many fan boys out there but I'd still bet there wouldn't be as many people excited about it.
jimmyjames wrote:
Ok, I wouldn't really call it a challenge though.
Number Of The Beast ( awesome )
Somewhere In Time ( awesome )
Killers ( awesome )
Piece Of Mind ( agree about Quest For Fire and don't really like To Tame A Land either )
Powerslave ( Solid but the good songs aren't as good as the good songs on POM )
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son ( Great all round album, a touch mellodramatic )
Iron Maiden ( This and Seventh Son I rate equally )
Fear Of The Dark ( Not bad, 7/10 )
Dance Of Death ( A few good songs )
Brave New World ( A few good songs , I rate this and Dance Of Death equally )
No Prayer For The Dying ( Boring )
A Matter Of Life And Death ( Long and boring )
X Factor ( Crap )
Virtual XI ( haven't even heard it because X factor was so crap. )
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Hey jimmy,since "you know what your talking about"...why don't "YOU" list your favorite Iron Maiden studio albums from the best album to the most shit album and you have to list if you like the album or not,this has nothing to do with the baby fanboy but I'm just courious what your ratings would be,so are you up for the challange since you seem to know just about everything or are you afraid of what your fanboy will say? I say you will "chicken out".....
Heres mine:
Killers - exellent
Iron Maiden-excellent
The Number Of The Beast-excellent
Piece Of Mind -excellent except for Quest For Fire the shit song
Powerslave-awsome except for The Duellists shit song
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son -good album except for The Evil That Men Do crappy song
A Matter Of Life And Death -fair album except for Different World and Benjamim Bragg shit songs
Brave New World -half "ok" half shit album
Somewhere In Time-poor album
Fear Of The Dark- shit album except for the song Be Quick Or Be Dead that song is awsome on a shit album
No Prayer For The Dying -shit album except for Mother Russia that track is good
Dance Of Death - horrible shitty record I hate it all
Virtual Eleven-total SHIT
The X Factor - total SHIT
Well step up mr.major in the english language.... lets see where you stand on Iron Maiden's discography...
And to the fanboy...we need nothing from you as remember..this thread is for serious Iron Maiden discussions" as you haven't added one aspect of anything serious about the band yet lol!!!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:18:54 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I know exactly what I'm talking about.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Whatever dude,if thats what makes you "feel better' than go for it .Its no skin off my nuts. You obviously don't know what your even talking about so I'll lay this un-needed conversation to rest,you need to learn what your talking about before you question.
jimmyjames wrote:
So you are being anal about the way the sentence was structured? Maybe he didn't say it the "correct" way but I understood perfectly what Brian was getting at and I'm sure you did too. You're just looking for a fight because you don't like Brian.
PS. You are extremely anal about everything to do with metal.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Ha ha,thats not correct jimmy as you and Brian are not understanding what these statements actually mean in a stuctured sentence.I'm not being "anal" about anything jimmy,Brian has contradicted himself and I just called him out on it,no need for you to worry about it,but we will "agree to disagree" thats all.
And I'm not the Maiden fanboy,you should dedicate that Twilight Zone song to Brian...after all,any other song by any other band that did not have a guitar solo in it is considered "not good" but if its an Iron Maiden song than it "is good" and doesn't really need one. HA!
Brian Evans wrote today: "And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good"
Brian Evans wrote: "What every goodmetal track should have is an excellent guitar solo"
Think about it. lol!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:39:23 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
To make up for disappointing you I will play Twilight Zone on my show next week and dedicate to you.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
No jimmy,I'm afraid your wrong on this one pal.He said every track should have one to be "good". Your not understanding the meanings of these sentences,look them up and you will find I'm right. Your confusing the words should and has together,look them up in sentences and depending on how its used they are showing what I'm saying is absolutely correct. We'll have to agree to disagree,no problem but he just basically said that the song Twilight Zone is not a "good" track unless it had an 'excellent" guitar solo in it, the word "good" in the sentence is why I'm right,had he worded it another way then you'd be right....
Its not that hard to understand,I'm disappointed in you jimmy hahahaha!!!!
JD, he didn't say every great song "has" to have a great solo. What you think he was saying and what he said are two different things. You are wrong on this one.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Brian Evans wrote March 1st in you tube videos thread: Bathory formed in 1983. Ha! 1983? HaHaHA!! Thats too funny! Where's the good guitar solo? No way these guys can compete with the masters like Iron Maiden
(lol!) Oh ok,so you laugh at Bathory for not playing a guitar solo but its ok if Iron maiden doesn't play a guitar solo in the song Twilight Zone?
LOL! Fuckin contradictional fanboy! LOL! Gotcha!
Brian_Evans wrote:
"And yeah I knew you would throw the live versions of the JP tunes,thats why I posted what I posted for you to shy away from the Iron Maiden Twilight Zone non-guitar solo track."
I didn't shy away from anything. You're just grasping at straws here and you probably don't even know how to play chess. The bass solo thing I said was just a joke. Although Steve Harris does more in that track than most bass players do in ten. Twlight Zone is a solid metal track. And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good. Read the post five more times and maybe just maybe(fingers crossed) you will finally catch on. You can't stump me man, give it up and go back to your littie Saxon cave of a thread. You're out of your element here.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:21:48 AM)
Edited at: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:26:58 PM
Edited at: Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:02:55 PM
On March 20th J.D. Diamond wrote:
"A Matter Of Life And Death is agreat albumwith 10 songs on it there are only 2 tracks that I do not like"
"But the other 8 songs I really like,those 8 songs although they are a little bit progressive but in a great way done right they remind me of material from Piece Of Mind and Powerslave."
TodayJ.D. Diamond wrote this:
"This is all opinions again mine isn't the final say but for me personally being a fan of Iron Maiden since 1982 I've been let down withevery albumstarting from 1986's Somewhere In Time" all the way till now"
Hey Diamond, so how is "A Matter Of Life And Death" that you described as a "great album" and 8 out of ten songs reminds you of "Piece of Mind" and "Powerslave" of the elite 80's era Maiden a let down? Now look who's contradicting themselves?
Bahaa!
Edited at: Saturday, March 27, 2010 1:35:28 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:54:56 PM
I agree,Iron Maiden is a bad fucking "JOKE" thats overrated next to Shitallica. I can't fathom it and I too find it hard to belive that Jimmy defends current Iron Maiden as well,and yeah I know the rip off Brian_Evans is a shit disturber but I thrive on arguing(lol!) and I live for it,its in my blood,where he and all shit disturbers think they are "getting to me" as they call it,I am laughing my ass off smokin' a bowl because I love to argue HAHA!
But you stand correct Guido,this thread was,is and will always be a farce and a mear joke,we know the shinanigins behind this curtain and I don't think Brian_Evans like Iron Maiden "this much" he has only portrayed it to get a rise out of anybody who will engage into it,and again I've only given him the pleasure only because I thrive on arguing HAHA!! Not me Guido? LOL!!! I'm with ya,I'm out of this thread too...
Oh before I go...."DOWN THE IRONS" [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:14:24 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd have one song. I think that Maiden is now a bad joke. While there is no comparison to someone who runs an internet radio station vs. a radio station of old where you actually had to prove yourself (much like blogs now where every idiot and his brother could have his say provided you knew how to work a computer) I find it hard that you could defend current Maiden. IMO, the current Brian_Evans is a shitdisturber (yeah, two people could be named the same but doubtful). This thread has turned into a farce and I am out of it.
There is but one band to rule them all.
jimmyjames wrote:
How about a Maiden setlist from you that only contains songs from 1990 to now?
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
First off...(rolling my eyes back and refering to Brian's nitpicky post) hey jimmy james.........and I'm the one being fucking anal"?? LMMFAO at jimmy!!! PLease.
Second,yes I do like A Matter Of Life And Death dumb shit, and I said its thier best work since the Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son album and it "IS" a great albumfor "Iron Maiden" because Iron Maiden writes shit albums one right after the other,so for Iron maiden it IS a "great album". If it were Saxon that wrote it is would "suck". If Judas Priest wrote it is would "suck" because those bands could do 100% better than Iron Maiden and those bands kick Iron Maiden's ass up between thier shoulders just like I do to you on a regular basis Brian HA!
But for Iron Maiden yes it is a great album because of how much they fuckin suck. Those "8" songs I do like,and yes some of it does remind me of Piece Of Mind and Powerslave in spots but they are nowhere near the "greatness" of albums such as "Iron Maiden,Killers,The Number Of The Beast,Piece Of Mind and Powerslave and even Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son" nowhere even close Brian.
I can easily side A Matter Of Life And Death in with shit albums from 1990 - to 2003's shit album Dance Of Death,I have always given AMOLAD a break because of how shitty Iron Maiden's song writting skills are so what your saying again is a mear joke,you failed yet again shit for brains,face it you can't top me and never will because your not smart enough haha!
Just because I said it was "great" I never said "how great" and for a shit band like Iron Maiden it "is great" I'll take it and it doesn't mean-that I side it in with those elite albums as I've said. Wich is a far cry from a contradiction like you are consistantly dickhead lol! Down The Irons lofao!!!!!
(Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Friday, March 26, 2010 9:43:53 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Oh god that would fuckin suck balls lol! I would hate to see that live,there are 13 tracks that are listed there that make me puke but again to each his own. I guess I really don't like this band,I like thier 1980's stuff and that is to me a different band altogether. Its just the song writting that kills it for me,I'll never hear another new Iron Maiden album that I like and can compare to elite albums such as the band's first 5 studio albums. And as for seeing this shit band live no freakin way,if I hate the new album I'll not see em' live and that goes for any band's new album.
This is all opinions again mine isn't the final say but for me personally being a fan of Iron Maiden since 1982 I've been let down with every album starting from 1986's Somewhere In Time" all the way till now,sure I like bits and pieces here and there but I can never get a kick ass product from Iron maiden and its a shame and a let down for me.This band is dead and I have to face it,they will never put out a studio album that I like all the way through again. Down the Irons.
jimmyjames wrote:
Ok here is a setlist compiled only of songs from 1990 and later. Out of respect I have not included anything from the Blaze Bayley era. This actually only gives me five albums to work with. No Prayer, Fear, Brave New World, Dance Of Death and AMOLAD. I have tried to pick tracks that I think would sound good live. In some cases they are not that great on the album but in a live setting would be cool.
1) Be Quick Or Be Dead
2) The Wicker Man
3) Montsegur
4) Out Of the Shadows
5) Holy Smoke
6) Ghost Of The Navigator
7) Paschendale
8) From Here To Eternity
9) Lord Of Light
10) Wildest Dreams
11) Running Silent, Running Deep
12) The Reincarnation Of Benjamin Breeg
13) Face In The Sand
14) Brighter Than A Thousand Suns
15) Fear Is The Key
16) Rainmaker
17) Tailgunner
18) The Mercenary
19) Bring Your Daughter To The Slaughter
20) Fear Of the Dark
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Thats cool jimmy,we can't all agree on everything however,I do see why you like Somewhere In Time and not really thrilled about the last 2f the band's career as neither am I. The track that kills me that I freaking HATE is "Heaven Can Wait"...oohhh that song,the chorus spanks of bad ideas and Bruce's voice is extremely irritating when he sings it. AARRGGHH. That song and the chorus to the opening track Caught Somewhere In Time is almost equally irritatiing to me just as the AMOLAD is irritating to almost everyone else.
So how about a Maiden tour with just them playing songs from 1990 -2006? That to me would be absolutely lame.
jimmyjames wrote:
Somewhere In Time is the most under-rated Maiden album. I don't think it has a weak track. Some people might say De Ja Vu, Sea Of Madness or The Loneliness Of The Long Distance Runner are not that great but I reckon they are cool songs. It also has top notch cover artwork and three songs that are Maiden classics, Wasted Years, Stranger In A Strange Land and Heaven Can Wait.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
WOW. I'm impressed...somebody who isn't afraid of listing Iron Maiden albums however I am utterly "shocked" at how you list Somewhere In Time over Killers,Piece Of mind,Iron Maiden and Powerslave....from 1986 when it came out till now I'm still trying to figure out what is good about this album I can't take any of it,not even one song but I must have to say to each his own. At least this is "an opinion" and your not saying "oh gaga everything they do is equally excellent". I agree that AMOLAD is boring,even though I do like most of it it isn't anywhere near,not even near thier first 5 studio albums(1980 - 1984).
Whats also interesting is your first 7 albums listed are all from the 1980's and my first 6 albums are also from the 1980's and the rest is all rated as "aeh..ok" to "shit" from both our opionions. I can't even fathom how many people/fans have said the same thing year after year that the 80's material is the band's best and everything else is "ah...ok I guess"...everybody nowadays just wants to see the band "live" because they can't "get anything special" out of thier albums from 1990 till now,they just can't get anything they want from these less than average albums.
I'd like to see how many people would go see Iron Maiden if they were to only play songs from the shitty albums from 1990 No Prayer For The Dying to now with A Matter Of life And Death"...1990 - 2006 no "Number Of The Beast" song no nothing just those albums from 1990 to 2006,I'm sure they would still pack em' in because of how many fan boys out there but I'd still bet there wouldn't be as many people excited about it.
jimmyjames wrote:
Ok, I wouldn't really call it a challenge though.
Number Of The Beast ( awesome )
Somewhere In Time ( awesome )
Killers ( awesome )
Piece Of Mind ( agree about Quest For Fire and don't really like To Tame A Land either )
Powerslave ( Solid but the good songs aren't as good as the good songs on POM )
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son ( Great all round album, a touch mellodramatic )
Iron Maiden ( This and Seventh Son I rate equally )
Fear Of The Dark ( Not bad, 7/10 )
Dance Of Death ( A few good songs )
Brave New World ( A few good songs , I rate this and Dance Of Death equally )
No Prayer For The Dying ( Boring )
A Matter Of Life And Death ( Long and boring )
X Factor ( Crap )
Virtual XI ( haven't even heard it because X factor was so crap. )
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Hey jimmy,since "you know what your talking about"...why don't "YOU" list your favorite Iron Maiden studio albums from the best album to the most shit album and you have to list if you like the album or not,this has nothing to do with the baby fanboy but I'm just courious what your ratings would be,so are you up for the challange since you seem to know just about everything or are you afraid of what your fanboy will say? I say you will "chicken out".....
Heres mine:
Killers - exellent
Iron Maiden-excellent
The Number Of The Beast-excellent
Piece Of Mind -excellent except for Quest For Fire the shit song
Powerslave-awsome except for The Duellists shit song
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son -good album except for The Evil That Men Do crappy song
A Matter Of Life And Death -fair album except for Different World and Benjamim Bragg shit songs
Brave New World -half "ok" half shit album
Somewhere In Time-poor album
Fear Of The Dark- shit album except for the song Be Quick Or Be Dead that song is awsome on a shit album
No Prayer For The Dying -shit album except for Mother Russia that track is good
Dance Of Death - horrible shitty record I hate it all
Virtual Eleven-total SHIT
The X Factor - total SHIT
Well step up mr.major in the english language.... lets see where you stand on Iron Maiden's discography...
And to the fanboy...we need nothing from you as remember..this thread is for serious Iron Maiden discussions" as you haven't added one aspect of anything serious about the band yet lol!!!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:18:54 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I know exactly what I'm talking about.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Whatever dude,if thats what makes you "feel better' than go for it .Its no skin off my nuts. You obviously don't know what your even talking about so I'll lay this un-needed conversation to rest,you need to learn what your talking about before you question.
jimmyjames wrote:
So you are being anal about the way the sentence was structured? Maybe he didn't say it the "correct" way but I understood perfectly what Brian was getting at and I'm sure you did too. You're just looking for a fight because you don't like Brian.
PS. You are extremely anal about everything to do with metal.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Ha ha,thats not correct jimmy as you and Brian are not understanding what these statements actually mean in a stuctured sentence.I'm not being "anal" about anything jimmy,Brian has contradicted himself and I just called him out on it,no need for you to worry about it,but we will "agree to disagree" thats all.
And I'm not the Maiden fanboy,you should dedicate that Twilight Zone song to Brian...after all,any other song by any other band that did not have a guitar solo in it is considered "not good" but if its an Iron Maiden song than it "is good" and doesn't really need one. HA!
Brian Evans wrote today: "And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good"
Brian Evans wrote: "What every goodmetal track should have is an excellent guitar solo"
Think about it. lol!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:39:23 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
To make up for disappointing you I will play Twilight Zone on my show next week and dedicate to you.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
No jimmy,I'm afraid your wrong on this one pal.He said every track should have one to be "good". Your not understanding the meanings of these sentences,look them up and you will find I'm right. Your confusing the words should and has together,look them up in sentences and depending on how its used they are showing what I'm saying is absolutely correct. We'll have to agree to disagree,no problem but he just basically said that the song Twilight Zone is not a "good" track unless it had an 'excellent" guitar solo in it, the word "good" in the sentence is why I'm right,had he worded it another way then you'd be right....
Its not that hard to understand,I'm disappointed in you jimmy hahahaha!!!!
JD, he didn't say every great song "has" to have a great solo. What you think he was saying and what he said are two different things. You are wrong on this one.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Brian Evans wrote March 1st in you tube videos thread: Bathory formed in 1983. Ha! 1983? HaHaHA!! Thats too funny! Where's the good guitar solo? No way these guys can compete with the masters like Iron Maiden
(lol!) Oh ok,so you laugh at Bathory for not playing a guitar solo but its ok if Iron maiden doesn't play a guitar solo in the song Twilight Zone?
LOL! Fuckin contradictional fanboy! LOL! Gotcha!
Brian_Evans wrote:
"And yeah I knew you would throw the live versions of the JP tunes,thats why I posted what I posted for you to shy away from the Iron Maiden Twilight Zone non-guitar solo track."
I didn't shy away from anything. You're just grasping at straws here and you probably don't even know how to play chess. The bass solo thing I said was just a joke. Although Steve Harris does more in that track than most bass players do in ten. Twlight Zone is a solid metal track. And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good. Read the post five more times and maybe just maybe(fingers crossed) you will finally catch on. You can't stump me man, give it up and go back to your littie Saxon cave of a thread. You're out of your element here.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:21:48 AM)
Edited at: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:26:58 PM
Edited at: Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:02:55 PM
On March 20th J.D. Diamond wrote:
"A Matter Of Life And Death is agreat albumwith 10 songs on it there are only 2 tracks that I do not like"
"But the other 8 songs I really like,those 8 songs although they are a little bit progressive but in a great way done right they remind me of material from Piece Of Mind and Powerslave."
TodayJ.D. Diamond wrote this:
"This is all opinions again mine isn't the final say but for me personally being a fan of Iron Maiden since 1982 I've been let down withevery albumstarting from 1986's Somewhere In Time" all the way till now"
Hey Diamond, so how is "A Matter Of Life And Death" that you described as a "great album" and 8 out of ten songs reminds you of "Piece of Mind" and "Powerslave" of the elite 80's era Maiden a let down? Now look who's contradicting themselves?
Bahaa!
Edited at: Saturday, March 27, 2010 1:35:28 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:45:44 PM
I couldn't make a setlist because I wouldn't want to hear anything live from Iron Maiden with songs from 1990 -now.Sure I like some of those songs and again A Matter Of Life And Death "is a great album" for the shit song writting skills of Steve Harris and Co.,some tracks remind me of hints of Piece Of Mind and Powerslave but I never said that the album "is as good as" those albums.The truth is they don't cut it and they are light years away from quality albums such as The Number Of The Beast but for Maiden yeah it is a great album. I would compare A Matter Of life And Death to "Ram It Down" in quality but with Ram It Down better quality. Down the Irons [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:05:07 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
How about a Maiden setlist from you that only contains songs from 1990 to now?
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
First off...(rolling my eyes back and refering to Brian's nitpicky post) hey jimmy james.........and I'm the one being fucking anal"?? LMMFAO at jimmy!!! PLease.
Second,yes I do like A Matter Of Life And Death dumb shit, and I said its thier best work since the Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son album and it "IS" a great albumfor "Iron Maiden" because Iron Maiden writes shit albums one right after the other,so for Iron maiden it IS a "great album". If it were Saxon that wrote it is would "suck". If Judas Priest wrote it is would "suck" because those bands could do 100% better than Iron Maiden and those bands kick Iron Maiden's ass up between thier shoulders just like I do to you on a regular basis Brian HA!
But for Iron Maiden yes it is a great album because of how much they fuckin suck. Those "8" songs I do like,and yes some of it does remind me of Piece Of Mind and Powerslave in spots but they are nowhere near the "greatness" of albums such as "Iron Maiden,Killers,The Number Of The Beast,Piece Of Mind and Powerslave and even Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son" nowhere even close Brian.
I can easily side A Matter Of Life And Death in with shit albums from 1990 - to 2003's shit album Dance Of Death,I have always given AMOLAD a break because of how shitty Iron Maiden's song writting skills are so what your saying again is a mear joke,you failed yet again shit for brains,face it you can't top me and never will because your not smart enough haha!
Just because I said it was "great" I never said "how great" and for a shit band like Iron Maiden it "is great" I'll take it and it doesn't mean-that I side it in with those elite albums as I've said. Wich is a far cry from a contradiction like you are consistantly dickhead lol! Down The Irons lofao!!!!!
(Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Friday, March 26, 2010 9:43:53 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Oh god that would fuckin suck balls lol! I would hate to see that live,there are 13 tracks that are listed there that make me puke but again to each his own. I guess I really don't like this band,I like thier 1980's stuff and that is to me a different band altogether. Its just the song writting that kills it for me,I'll never hear another new Iron Maiden album that I like and can compare to elite albums such as the band's first 5 studio albums. And as for seeing this shit band live no freakin way,if I hate the new album I'll not see em' live and that goes for any band's new album.
This is all opinions again mine isn't the final say but for me personally being a fan of Iron Maiden since 1982 I've been let down with every album starting from 1986's Somewhere In Time" all the way till now,sure I like bits and pieces here and there but I can never get a kick ass product from Iron maiden and its a shame and a let down for me.This band is dead and I have to face it,they will never put out a studio album that I like all the way through again. Down the Irons.
jimmyjames wrote:
Ok here is a setlist compiled only of songs from 1990 and later. Out of respect I have not included anything from the Blaze Bayley era. This actually only gives me five albums to work with. No Prayer, Fear, Brave New World, Dance Of Death and AMOLAD. I have tried to pick tracks that I think would sound good live. In some cases they are not that great on the album but in a live setting would be cool.
1) Be Quick Or Be Dead
2) The Wicker Man
3) Montsegur
4) Out Of the Shadows
5) Holy Smoke
6) Ghost Of The Navigator
7) Paschendale
8) From Here To Eternity
9) Lord Of Light
10) Wildest Dreams
11) Running Silent, Running Deep
12) The Reincarnation Of Benjamin Breeg
13) Face In The Sand
14) Brighter Than A Thousand Suns
15) Fear Is The Key
16) Rainmaker
17) Tailgunner
18) The Mercenary
19) Bring Your Daughter To The Slaughter
20) Fear Of the Dark
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Thats cool jimmy,we can't all agree on everything however,I do see why you like Somewhere In Time and not really thrilled about the last 2f the band's career as neither am I. The track that kills me that I freaking HATE is "Heaven Can Wait"...oohhh that song,the chorus spanks of bad ideas and Bruce's voice is extremely irritating when he sings it. AARRGGHH. That song and the chorus to the opening track Caught Somewhere In Time is almost equally irritatiing to me just as the AMOLAD is irritating to almost everyone else.
So how about a Maiden tour with just them playing songs from 1990 -2006? That to me would be absolutely lame.
jimmyjames wrote:
Somewhere In Time is the most under-rated Maiden album. I don't think it has a weak track. Some people might say De Ja Vu, Sea Of Madness or The Loneliness Of The Long Distance Runner are not that great but I reckon they are cool songs. It also has top notch cover artwork and three songs that are Maiden classics, Wasted Years, Stranger In A Strange Land and Heaven Can Wait.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
WOW. I'm impressed...somebody who isn't afraid of listing Iron Maiden albums however I am utterly "shocked" at how you list Somewhere In Time over Killers,Piece Of mind,Iron Maiden and Powerslave....from 1986 when it came out till now I'm still trying to figure out what is good about this album I can't take any of it,not even one song but I must have to say to each his own. At least this is "an opinion" and your not saying "oh gaga everything they do is equally excellent". I agree that AMOLAD is boring,even though I do like most of it it isn't anywhere near,not even near thier first 5 studio albums(1980 - 1984).
Whats also interesting is your first 7 albums listed are all from the 1980's and my first 6 albums are also from the 1980's and the rest is all rated as "aeh..ok" to "shit" from both our opionions. I can't even fathom how many people/fans have said the same thing year after year that the 80's material is the band's best and everything else is "ah...ok I guess"...everybody nowadays just wants to see the band "live" because they can't "get anything special" out of thier albums from 1990 till now,they just can't get anything they want from these less than average albums.
I'd like to see how many people would go see Iron Maiden if they were to only play songs from the shitty albums from 1990 No Prayer For The Dying to now with A Matter Of life And Death"...1990 - 2006 no "Number Of The Beast" song no nothing just those albums from 1990 to 2006,I'm sure they would still pack em' in because of how many fan boys out there but I'd still bet there wouldn't be as many people excited about it.
jimmyjames wrote:
Ok, I wouldn't really call it a challenge though.
Number Of The Beast ( awesome )
Somewhere In Time ( awesome )
Killers ( awesome )
Piece Of Mind ( agree about Quest For Fire and don't really like To Tame A Land either )
Powerslave ( Solid but the good songs aren't as good as the good songs on POM )
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son ( Great all round album, a touch mellodramatic )
Iron Maiden ( This and Seventh Son I rate equally )
Fear Of The Dark ( Not bad, 7/10 )
Dance Of Death ( A few good songs )
Brave New World ( A few good songs , I rate this and Dance Of Death equally )
No Prayer For The Dying ( Boring )
A Matter Of Life And Death ( Long and boring )
X Factor ( Crap )
Virtual XI ( haven't even heard it because X factor was so crap. )
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Hey jimmy,since "you know what your talking about"...why don't "YOU" list your favorite Iron Maiden studio albums from the best album to the most shit album and you have to list if you like the album or not,this has nothing to do with the baby fanboy but I'm just courious what your ratings would be,so are you up for the challange since you seem to know just about everything or are you afraid of what your fanboy will say? I say you will "chicken out".....
Heres mine:
Killers - exellent
Iron Maiden-excellent
The Number Of The Beast-excellent
Piece Of Mind -excellent except for Quest For Fire the shit song
Powerslave-awsome except for The Duellists shit song
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son -good album except for The Evil That Men Do crappy song
A Matter Of Life And Death -fair album except for Different World and Benjamim Bragg shit songs
Brave New World -half "ok" half shit album
Somewhere In Time-poor album
Fear Of The Dark- shit album except for the song Be Quick Or Be Dead that song is awsome on a shit album
No Prayer For The Dying -shit album except for Mother Russia that track is good
Dance Of Death - horrible shitty record I hate it all
Virtual Eleven-total SHIT
The X Factor - total SHIT
Well step up mr.major in the english language.... lets see where you stand on Iron Maiden's discography...
And to the fanboy...we need nothing from you as remember..this thread is for serious Iron Maiden discussions" as you haven't added one aspect of anything serious about the band yet lol!!!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:18:54 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I know exactly what I'm talking about.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Whatever dude,if thats what makes you "feel better' than go for it .Its no skin off my nuts. You obviously don't know what your even talking about so I'll lay this un-needed conversation to rest,you need to learn what your talking about before you question.
jimmyjames wrote:
So you are being anal about the way the sentence was structured? Maybe he didn't say it the "correct" way but I understood perfectly what Brian was getting at and I'm sure you did too. You're just looking for a fight because you don't like Brian.
PS. You are extremely anal about everything to do with metal.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Ha ha,thats not correct jimmy as you and Brian are not understanding what these statements actually mean in a stuctured sentence.I'm not being "anal" about anything jimmy,Brian has contradicted himself and I just called him out on it,no need for you to worry about it,but we will "agree to disagree" thats all.
And I'm not the Maiden fanboy,you should dedicate that Twilight Zone song to Brian...after all,any other song by any other band that did not have a guitar solo in it is considered "not good" but if its an Iron Maiden song than it "is good" and doesn't really need one. HA!
Brian Evans wrote today: "And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good"
Brian Evans wrote: "What every goodmetal track should have is an excellent guitar solo"
Think about it. lol!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:39:23 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
To make up for disappointing you I will play Twilight Zone on my show next week and dedicate to you.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
No jimmy,I'm afraid your wrong on this one pal.He said every track should have one to be "good". Your not understanding the meanings of these sentences,look them up and you will find I'm right. Your confusing the words should and has together,look them up in sentences and depending on how its used they are showing what I'm saying is absolutely correct. We'll have to agree to disagree,no problem but he just basically said that the song Twilight Zone is not a "good" track unless it had an 'excellent" guitar solo in it, the word "good" in the sentence is why I'm right,had he worded it another way then you'd be right....
Its not that hard to understand,I'm disappointed in you jimmy hahahaha!!!!
JD, he didn't say every great song "has" to have a great solo. What you think he was saying and what he said are two different things. You are wrong on this one.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Brian Evans wrote March 1st in you tube videos thread: Bathory formed in 1983. Ha! 1983? HaHaHA!! Thats too funny! Where's the good guitar solo? No way these guys can compete with the masters like Iron Maiden
(lol!) Oh ok,so you laugh at Bathory for not playing a guitar solo but its ok if Iron maiden doesn't play a guitar solo in the song Twilight Zone?
LOL! Fuckin contradictional fanboy! LOL! Gotcha!
Brian_Evans wrote:
"And yeah I knew you would throw the live versions of the JP tunes,thats why I posted what I posted for you to shy away from the Iron Maiden Twilight Zone non-guitar solo track."
I didn't shy away from anything. You're just grasping at straws here and you probably don't even know how to play chess. The bass solo thing I said was just a joke. Although Steve Harris does more in that track than most bass players do in ten. Twlight Zone is a solid metal track. And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good. Read the post five more times and maybe just maybe(fingers crossed) you will finally catch on. You can't stump me man, give it up and go back to your littie Saxon cave of a thread. You're out of your element here.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:21:48 AM)
Edited at: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:26:58 PM
Edited at: Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:02:55 PM
On March 20th J.D. Diamond wrote:
"A Matter Of Life And Death is agreat albumwith 10 songs on it there are only 2 tracks that I do not like"
"But the other 8 songs I really like,those 8 songs although they are a little bit progressive but in a great way done right they remind me of material from Piece Of Mind and Powerslave."
TodayJ.D. Diamond wrote this:
"This is all opinions again mine isn't the final say but for me personally being a fan of Iron Maiden since 1982 I've been let down withevery albumstarting from 1986's Somewhere In Time" all the way till now"
Hey Diamond, so how is "A Matter Of Life And Death" that you described as a "great album" and 8 out of ten songs reminds you of "Piece of Mind" and "Powerslave" of the elite 80's era Maiden a let down? Now look who's contradicting themselves?
Bahaa!
Edited at: Saturday, March 27, 2010 1:35:28 AM
[guidogodoy] Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:14:24 PM
I'd have one song. I think that Maiden is now a bad joke. While there is no comparison to someone who runs an internet radio station vs. a radio station of old where you actually had to prove yourself (much like blogs now where every idiot and his brother could have his say provided you knew how to work a computer) I find it hard that you could defend current Maiden. IMO, the current Brian_Evans is a shitdisturber (yeah, two people could be named the same but doubtful). This thread has turned into a farce and I am out of it.
There is but one band to rule them all. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:05:07 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
How about a Maiden setlist from you that only contains songs from 1990 to now?
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
First off...(rolling my eyes back and refering to Brian's nitpicky post) hey jimmy james.........and I'm the one being fucking anal"?? LMMFAO at jimmy!!! PLease.
Second,yes I do like A Matter Of Life And Death dumb shit, and I said its thier best work since the Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son album and it "IS" a great albumfor "Iron Maiden" because Iron Maiden writes shit albums one right after the other,so for Iron maiden it IS a "great album". If it were Saxon that wrote it is would "suck". If Judas Priest wrote it is would "suck" because those bands could do 100% better than Iron Maiden and those bands kick Iron Maiden's ass up between thier shoulders just like I do to you on a regular basis Brian HA!
But for Iron Maiden yes it is a great album because of how much they fuckin suck. Those "8" songs I do like,and yes some of it does remind me of Piece Of Mind and Powerslave in spots but they are nowhere near the "greatness" of albums such as "Iron Maiden,Killers,The Number Of The Beast,Piece Of Mind and Powerslave and even Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son" nowhere even close Brian.
I can easily side A Matter Of Life And Death in with shit albums from 1990 - to 2003's shit album Dance Of Death,I have always given AMOLAD a break because of how shitty Iron Maiden's song writting skills are so what your saying again is a mear joke,you failed yet again shit for brains,face it you can't top me and never will because your not smart enough haha!
Just because I said it was "great" I never said "how great" and for a shit band like Iron Maiden it "is great" I'll take it and it doesn't mean-that I side it in with those elite albums as I've said. Wich is a far cry from a contradiction like you are consistantly dickhead lol! Down The Irons lofao!!!!!
(Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Friday, March 26, 2010 9:43:53 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Oh god that would fuckin suck balls lol! I would hate to see that live,there are 13 tracks that are listed there that make me puke but again to each his own. I guess I really don't like this band,I like thier 1980's stuff and that is to me a different band altogether. Its just the song writting that kills it for me,I'll never hear another new Iron Maiden album that I like and can compare to elite albums such as the band's first 5 studio albums. And as for seeing this shit band live no freakin way,if I hate the new album I'll not see em' live and that goes for any band's new album.
This is all opinions again mine isn't the final say but for me personally being a fan of Iron Maiden since 1982 I've been let down with every album starting from 1986's Somewhere In Time" all the way till now,sure I like bits and pieces here and there but I can never get a kick ass product from Iron maiden and its a shame and a let down for me.This band is dead and I have to face it,they will never put out a studio album that I like all the way through again. Down the Irons.
jimmyjames wrote:
Ok here is a setlist compiled only of songs from 1990 and later. Out of respect I have not included anything from the Blaze Bayley era. This actually only gives me five albums to work with. No Prayer, Fear, Brave New World, Dance Of Death and AMOLAD. I have tried to pick tracks that I think would sound good live. In some cases they are not that great on the album but in a live setting would be cool.
1) Be Quick Or Be Dead
2) The Wicker Man
3) Montsegur
4) Out Of the Shadows
5) Holy Smoke
6) Ghost Of The Navigator
7) Paschendale
8) From Here To Eternity
9) Lord Of Light
10) Wildest Dreams
11) Running Silent, Running Deep
12) The Reincarnation Of Benjamin Breeg
13) Face In The Sand
14) Brighter Than A Thousand Suns
15) Fear Is The Key
16) Rainmaker
17) Tailgunner
18) The Mercenary
19) Bring Your Daughter To The Slaughter
20) Fear Of the Dark
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Thats cool jimmy,we can't all agree on everything however,I do see why you like Somewhere In Time and not really thrilled about the last 2f the band's career as neither am I. The track that kills me that I freaking HATE is "Heaven Can Wait"...oohhh that song,the chorus spanks of bad ideas and Bruce's voice is extremely irritating when he sings it. AARRGGHH. That song and the chorus to the opening track Caught Somewhere In Time is almost equally irritatiing to me just as the AMOLAD is irritating to almost everyone else.
So how about a Maiden tour with just them playing songs from 1990 -2006? That to me would be absolutely lame.
jimmyjames wrote:
Somewhere In Time is the most under-rated Maiden album. I don't think it has a weak track. Some people might say De Ja Vu, Sea Of Madness or The Loneliness Of The Long Distance Runner are not that great but I reckon they are cool songs. It also has top notch cover artwork and three songs that are Maiden classics, Wasted Years, Stranger In A Strange Land and Heaven Can Wait.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
WOW. I'm impressed...somebody who isn't afraid of listing Iron Maiden albums however I am utterly "shocked" at how you list Somewhere In Time over Killers,Piece Of mind,Iron Maiden and Powerslave....from 1986 when it came out till now I'm still trying to figure out what is good about this album I can't take any of it,not even one song but I must have to say to each his own. At least this is "an opinion" and your not saying "oh gaga everything they do is equally excellent". I agree that AMOLAD is boring,even though I do like most of it it isn't anywhere near,not even near thier first 5 studio albums(1980 - 1984).
Whats also interesting is your first 7 albums listed are all from the 1980's and my first 6 albums are also from the 1980's and the rest is all rated as "aeh..ok" to "shit" from both our opionions. I can't even fathom how many people/fans have said the same thing year after year that the 80's material is the band's best and everything else is "ah...ok I guess"...everybody nowadays just wants to see the band "live" because they can't "get anything special" out of thier albums from 1990 till now,they just can't get anything they want from these less than average albums.
I'd like to see how many people would go see Iron Maiden if they were to only play songs from the shitty albums from 1990 No Prayer For The Dying to now with A Matter Of life And Death"...1990 - 2006 no "Number Of The Beast" song no nothing just those albums from 1990 to 2006,I'm sure they would still pack em' in because of how many fan boys out there but I'd still bet there wouldn't be as many people excited about it.
jimmyjames wrote:
Ok, I wouldn't really call it a challenge though.
Number Of The Beast ( awesome )
Somewhere In Time ( awesome )
Killers ( awesome )
Piece Of Mind ( agree about Quest For Fire and don't really like To Tame A Land either )
Powerslave ( Solid but the good songs aren't as good as the good songs on POM )
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son ( Great all round album, a touch mellodramatic )
Iron Maiden ( This and Seventh Son I rate equally )
Fear Of The Dark ( Not bad, 7/10 )
Dance Of Death ( A few good songs )
Brave New World ( A few good songs , I rate this and Dance Of Death equally )
No Prayer For The Dying ( Boring )
A Matter Of Life And Death ( Long and boring )
X Factor ( Crap )
Virtual XI ( haven't even heard it because X factor was so crap. )
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Hey jimmy,since "you know what your talking about"...why don't "YOU" list your favorite Iron Maiden studio albums from the best album to the most shit album and you have to list if you like the album or not,this has nothing to do with the baby fanboy but I'm just courious what your ratings would be,so are you up for the challange since you seem to know just about everything or are you afraid of what your fanboy will say? I say you will "chicken out".....
Heres mine:
Killers - exellent
Iron Maiden-excellent
The Number Of The Beast-excellent
Piece Of Mind -excellent except for Quest For Fire the shit song
Powerslave-awsome except for The Duellists shit song
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son -good album except for The Evil That Men Do crappy song
A Matter Of Life And Death -fair album except for Different World and Benjamim Bragg shit songs
Brave New World -half "ok" half shit album
Somewhere In Time-poor album
Fear Of The Dark- shit album except for the song Be Quick Or Be Dead that song is awsome on a shit album
No Prayer For The Dying -shit album except for Mother Russia that track is good
Dance Of Death - horrible shitty record I hate it all
Virtual Eleven-total SHIT
The X Factor - total SHIT
Well step up mr.major in the english language.... lets see where you stand on Iron Maiden's discography...
And to the fanboy...we need nothing from you as remember..this thread is for serious Iron Maiden discussions" as you haven't added one aspect of anything serious about the band yet lol!!!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:18:54 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I know exactly what I'm talking about.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Whatever dude,if thats what makes you "feel better' than go for it .Its no skin off my nuts. You obviously don't know what your even talking about so I'll lay this un-needed conversation to rest,you need to learn what your talking about before you question.
jimmyjames wrote:
So you are being anal about the way the sentence was structured? Maybe he didn't say it the "correct" way but I understood perfectly what Brian was getting at and I'm sure you did too. You're just looking for a fight because you don't like Brian.
PS. You are extremely anal about everything to do with metal.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Ha ha,thats not correct jimmy as you and Brian are not understanding what these statements actually mean in a stuctured sentence.I'm not being "anal" about anything jimmy,Brian has contradicted himself and I just called him out on it,no need for you to worry about it,but we will "agree to disagree" thats all.
And I'm not the Maiden fanboy,you should dedicate that Twilight Zone song to Brian...after all,any other song by any other band that did not have a guitar solo in it is considered "not good" but if its an Iron Maiden song than it "is good" and doesn't really need one. HA!
Brian Evans wrote today: "And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good"
Brian Evans wrote: "What every goodmetal track should have is an excellent guitar solo"
Think about it. lol!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:39:23 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
To make up for disappointing you I will play Twilight Zone on my show next week and dedicate to you.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
No jimmy,I'm afraid your wrong on this one pal.He said every track should have one to be "good". Your not understanding the meanings of these sentences,look them up and you will find I'm right. Your confusing the words should and has together,look them up in sentences and depending on how its used they are showing what I'm saying is absolutely correct. We'll have to agree to disagree,no problem but he just basically said that the song Twilight Zone is not a "good" track unless it had an 'excellent" guitar solo in it, the word "good" in the sentence is why I'm right,had he worded it another way then you'd be right....
Its not that hard to understand,I'm disappointed in you jimmy hahahaha!!!!
JD, he didn't say every great song "has" to have a great solo. What you think he was saying and what he said are two different things. You are wrong on this one.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Brian Evans wrote March 1st in you tube videos thread: Bathory formed in 1983. Ha! 1983? HaHaHA!! Thats too funny! Where's the good guitar solo? No way these guys can compete with the masters like Iron Maiden
(lol!) Oh ok,so you laugh at Bathory for not playing a guitar solo but its ok if Iron maiden doesn't play a guitar solo in the song Twilight Zone?
LOL! Fuckin contradictional fanboy! LOL! Gotcha!
Brian_Evans wrote:
"And yeah I knew you would throw the live versions of the JP tunes,thats why I posted what I posted for you to shy away from the Iron Maiden Twilight Zone non-guitar solo track."
I didn't shy away from anything. You're just grasping at straws here and you probably don't even know how to play chess. The bass solo thing I said was just a joke. Although Steve Harris does more in that track than most bass players do in ten. Twlight Zone is a solid metal track. And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good. Read the post five more times and maybe just maybe(fingers crossed) you will finally catch on. You can't stump me man, give it up and go back to your littie Saxon cave of a thread. You're out of your element here.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:21:48 AM)
Edited at: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:26:58 PM
Edited at: Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:02:55 PM
On March 20th J.D. Diamond wrote:
"A Matter Of Life And Death is agreat albumwith 10 songs on it there are only 2 tracks that I do not like"
"But the other 8 songs I really like,those 8 songs although they are a little bit progressive but in a great way done right they remind me of material from Piece Of Mind and Powerslave."
TodayJ.D. Diamond wrote this:
"This is all opinions again mine isn't the final say but for me personally being a fan of Iron Maiden since 1982 I've been let down withevery albumstarting from 1986's Somewhere In Time" all the way till now"
Hey Diamond, so how is "A Matter Of Life And Death" that you described as a "great album" and 8 out of ten songs reminds you of "Piece of Mind" and "Powerslave" of the elite 80's era Maiden a let down? Now look who's contradicting themselves?
Bahaa!
Edited at: Saturday, March 27, 2010 1:35:28 AM
[jimmyjames] Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:05:07 PM
How about a Maiden setlist from you that only contains songs from 1990 to now? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, March 27, 2010 1:19:43 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
First off...(rolling my eyes back and refering to Brian's nitpicky post) hey jimmy james.........and I'm the one being fucking anal"?? LMMFAO at jimmy!!! PLease.
Second,yes I do like A Matter Of Life And Death dumb shit, and I said its thier best work since the Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son album and it "IS" a great albumfor "Iron Maiden" because Iron Maiden writes shit albums one right after the other,so for Iron maiden it IS a "great album". If it were Saxon that wrote it is would "suck". If Judas Priest wrote it is would "suck" because those bands could do 100% better than Iron Maiden and those bands kick Iron Maiden's ass up between thier shoulders just like I do to you on a regular basis Brian HA!
But for Iron Maiden yes it is a great album because of how much they fuckin suck. Those "8" songs I do like,and yes some of it does remind me of Piece Of Mind and Powerslave in spots but they are nowhere near the "greatness" of albums such as "Iron Maiden,Killers,The Number Of The Beast,Piece Of Mind and Powerslave and even Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son" nowhere even close Brian.
I can easily side A Matter Of Life And Death in with shit albums from 1990 - to 2003's shit album Dance Of Death,I have always given AMOLAD a break because of how shitty Iron Maiden's song writting skills are so what your saying again is a mear joke,you failed yet again shit for brains,face it you can't top me and never will because your not smart enough haha!
Just because I said it was "great" I never said "how great" and for a shit band like Iron Maiden it "is great" I'll take it and it doesn't mean-that I side it in with those elite albums as I've said. Wich is a far cry from a contradiction like you are consistantly dickhead lol! Down The Irons lofao!!!!!
(Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Friday, March 26, 2010 9:43:53 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Oh god that would fuckin suck balls lol! I would hate to see that live,there are 13 tracks that are listed there that make me puke but again to each his own. I guess I really don't like this band,I like thier 1980's stuff and that is to me a different band altogether. Its just the song writting that kills it for me,I'll never hear another new Iron Maiden album that I like and can compare to elite albums such as the band's first 5 studio albums. And as for seeing this shit band live no freakin way,if I hate the new album I'll not see em' live and that goes for any band's new album.
This is all opinions again mine isn't the final say but for me personally being a fan of Iron Maiden since 1982 I've been let down with every album starting from 1986's Somewhere In Time" all the way till now,sure I like bits and pieces here and there but I can never get a kick ass product from Iron maiden and its a shame and a let down for me.This band is dead and I have to face it,they will never put out a studio album that I like all the way through again. Down the Irons.
jimmyjames wrote:
Ok here is a setlist compiled only of songs from 1990 and later. Out of respect I have not included anything from the Blaze Bayley era. This actually only gives me five albums to work with. No Prayer, Fear, Brave New World, Dance Of Death and AMOLAD. I have tried to pick tracks that I think would sound good live. In some cases they are not that great on the album but in a live setting would be cool.
1) Be Quick Or Be Dead
2) The Wicker Man
3) Montsegur
4) Out Of the Shadows
5) Holy Smoke
6) Ghost Of The Navigator
7) Paschendale
8) From Here To Eternity
9) Lord Of Light
10) Wildest Dreams
11) Running Silent, Running Deep
12) The Reincarnation Of Benjamin Breeg
13) Face In The Sand
14) Brighter Than A Thousand Suns
15) Fear Is The Key
16) Rainmaker
17) Tailgunner
18) The Mercenary
19) Bring Your Daughter To The Slaughter
20) Fear Of the Dark
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Thats cool jimmy,we can't all agree on everything however,I do see why you like Somewhere In Time and not really thrilled about the last 2f the band's career as neither am I. The track that kills me that I freaking HATE is "Heaven Can Wait"...oohhh that song,the chorus spanks of bad ideas and Bruce's voice is extremely irritating when he sings it. AARRGGHH. That song and the chorus to the opening track Caught Somewhere In Time is almost equally irritatiing to me just as the AMOLAD is irritating to almost everyone else.
So how about a Maiden tour with just them playing songs from 1990 -2006? That to me would be absolutely lame.
jimmyjames wrote:
Somewhere In Time is the most under-rated Maiden album. I don't think it has a weak track. Some people might say De Ja Vu, Sea Of Madness or The Loneliness Of The Long Distance Runner are not that great but I reckon they are cool songs. It also has top notch cover artwork and three songs that are Maiden classics, Wasted Years, Stranger In A Strange Land and Heaven Can Wait.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
WOW. I'm impressed...somebody who isn't afraid of listing Iron Maiden albums however I am utterly "shocked" at how you list Somewhere In Time over Killers,Piece Of mind,Iron Maiden and Powerslave....from 1986 when it came out till now I'm still trying to figure out what is good about this album I can't take any of it,not even one song but I must have to say to each his own. At least this is "an opinion" and your not saying "oh gaga everything they do is equally excellent". I agree that AMOLAD is boring,even though I do like most of it it isn't anywhere near,not even near thier first 5 studio albums(1980 - 1984).
Whats also interesting is your first 7 albums listed are all from the 1980's and my first 6 albums are also from the 1980's and the rest is all rated as "aeh..ok" to "shit" from both our opionions. I can't even fathom how many people/fans have said the same thing year after year that the 80's material is the band's best and everything else is "ah...ok I guess"...everybody nowadays just wants to see the band "live" because they can't "get anything special" out of thier albums from 1990 till now,they just can't get anything they want from these less than average albums.
I'd like to see how many people would go see Iron Maiden if they were to only play songs from the shitty albums from 1990 No Prayer For The Dying to now with A Matter Of life And Death"...1990 - 2006 no "Number Of The Beast" song no nothing just those albums from 1990 to 2006,I'm sure they would still pack em' in because of how many fan boys out there but I'd still bet there wouldn't be as many people excited about it.
jimmyjames wrote:
Ok, I wouldn't really call it a challenge though.
Number Of The Beast ( awesome )
Somewhere In Time ( awesome )
Killers ( awesome )
Piece Of Mind ( agree about Quest For Fire and don't really like To Tame A Land either )
Powerslave ( Solid but the good songs aren't as good as the good songs on POM )
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son ( Great all round album, a touch mellodramatic )
Iron Maiden ( This and Seventh Son I rate equally )
Fear Of The Dark ( Not bad, 7/10 )
Dance Of Death ( A few good songs )
Brave New World ( A few good songs , I rate this and Dance Of Death equally )
No Prayer For The Dying ( Boring )
A Matter Of Life And Death ( Long and boring )
X Factor ( Crap )
Virtual XI ( haven't even heard it because X factor was so crap. )
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Hey jimmy,since "you know what your talking about"...why don't "YOU" list your favorite Iron Maiden studio albums from the best album to the most shit album and you have to list if you like the album or not,this has nothing to do with the baby fanboy but I'm just courious what your ratings would be,so are you up for the challange since you seem to know just about everything or are you afraid of what your fanboy will say? I say you will "chicken out".....
Heres mine:
Killers - exellent
Iron Maiden-excellent
The Number Of The Beast-excellent
Piece Of Mind -excellent except for Quest For Fire the shit song
Powerslave-awsome except for The Duellists shit song
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son -good album except for The Evil That Men Do crappy song
A Matter Of Life And Death -fair album except for Different World and Benjamim Bragg shit songs
Brave New World -half "ok" half shit album
Somewhere In Time-poor album
Fear Of The Dark- shit album except for the song Be Quick Or Be Dead that song is awsome on a shit album
No Prayer For The Dying -shit album except for Mother Russia that track is good
Dance Of Death - horrible shitty record I hate it all
Virtual Eleven-total SHIT
The X Factor - total SHIT
Well step up mr.major in the english language.... lets see where you stand on Iron Maiden's discography...
And to the fanboy...we need nothing from you as remember..this thread is for serious Iron Maiden discussions" as you haven't added one aspect of anything serious about the band yet lol!!!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:18:54 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I know exactly what I'm talking about.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Whatever dude,if thats what makes you "feel better' than go for it .Its no skin off my nuts. You obviously don't know what your even talking about so I'll lay this un-needed conversation to rest,you need to learn what your talking about before you question.
jimmyjames wrote:
So you are being anal about the way the sentence was structured? Maybe he didn't say it the "correct" way but I understood perfectly what Brian was getting at and I'm sure you did too. You're just looking for a fight because you don't like Brian.
PS. You are extremely anal about everything to do with metal.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Ha ha,thats not correct jimmy as you and Brian are not understanding what these statements actually mean in a stuctured sentence.I'm not being "anal" about anything jimmy,Brian has contradicted himself and I just called him out on it,no need for you to worry about it,but we will "agree to disagree" thats all.
And I'm not the Maiden fanboy,you should dedicate that Twilight Zone song to Brian...after all,any other song by any other band that did not have a guitar solo in it is considered "not good" but if its an Iron Maiden song than it "is good" and doesn't really need one. HA!
Brian Evans wrote today: "And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good"
Brian Evans wrote: "What every goodmetal track should have is an excellent guitar solo"
Think about it. lol!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:39:23 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
To make up for disappointing you I will play Twilight Zone on my show next week and dedicate to you.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
No jimmy,I'm afraid your wrong on this one pal.He said every track should have one to be "good". Your not understanding the meanings of these sentences,look them up and you will find I'm right. Your confusing the words should and has together,look them up in sentences and depending on how its used they are showing what I'm saying is absolutely correct. We'll have to agree to disagree,no problem but he just basically said that the song Twilight Zone is not a "good" track unless it had an 'excellent" guitar solo in it, the word "good" in the sentence is why I'm right,had he worded it another way then you'd be right....
Its not that hard to understand,I'm disappointed in you jimmy hahahaha!!!!
JD, he didn't say every great song "has" to have a great solo. What you think he was saying and what he said are two different things. You are wrong on this one.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Brian Evans wrote March 1st in you tube videos thread: Bathory formed in 1983. Ha! 1983? HaHaHA!! Thats too funny! Where's the good guitar solo? No way these guys can compete with the masters like Iron Maiden
(lol!) Oh ok,so you laugh at Bathory for not playing a guitar solo but its ok if Iron maiden doesn't play a guitar solo in the song Twilight Zone?
LOL! Fuckin contradictional fanboy! LOL! Gotcha!
Brian_Evans wrote:
"And yeah I knew you would throw the live versions of the JP tunes,thats why I posted what I posted for you to shy away from the Iron Maiden Twilight Zone non-guitar solo track."
I didn't shy away from anything. You're just grasping at straws here and you probably don't even know how to play chess. The bass solo thing I said was just a joke. Although Steve Harris does more in that track than most bass players do in ten. Twlight Zone is a solid metal track. And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good. Read the post five more times and maybe just maybe(fingers crossed) you will finally catch on. You can't stump me man, give it up and go back to your littie Saxon cave of a thread. You're out of your element here.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:21:48 AM)
Edited at: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:26:58 PM
Edited at: Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:02:55 PM
On March 20th J.D. Diamond wrote:
"A Matter Of Life And Death is agreat albumwith 10 songs on it there are only 2 tracks that I do not like"
"But the other 8 songs I really like,those 8 songs although they are a little bit progressive but in a great way done right they remind me of material from Piece Of Mind and Powerslave."
TodayJ.D. Diamond wrote this:
"This is all opinions again mine isn't the final say but for me personally being a fan of Iron Maiden since 1982 I've been let down withevery albumstarting from 1986's Somewhere In Time" all the way till now"
Hey Diamond, so how is "A Matter Of Life And Death" that you described as a "great album" and 8 out of ten songs reminds you of "Piece of Mind" and "Powerslave" of the elite 80's era Maiden a let down? Now look who's contradicting themselves?
Bahaa!
Edited at: Saturday, March 27, 2010 1:35:28 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, March 27, 2010 1:19:43 AM
First off...(rolling my eyes back and refering to Brian's nitpicky post) hey jimmy james.........and I'm the one being fucking anal"?? LMMFAO at jimmy!!! PLease.
Second,yes I do like A Matter Of Life And Death dumb shit, and I said its thier best work since the Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son album and it "IS" a great albumfor "Iron Maiden" because Iron Maiden writes shit albums one right after the other,so for Iron maiden it IS a "great album". If it were Saxon that wrote it is would "suck". If Judas Priest wrote it is would "suck" because those bands could do 100% better than Iron Maiden and those bands kick Iron Maiden's ass up between thier shoulders just like I do to you on a regular basis Brian HA!
But for Iron Maiden yes it is a great album because of how much they fuckin suck. Those "8" songs I do like,and yes some of it does remind me of Piece Of Mind and Powerslave in spots but they are nowhere near the "greatness" of albums such as "Iron Maiden,Killers,The Number Of The Beast,Piece Of Mind and Powerslave and even Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son" nowhere even close Brian.
I can easily side A Matter Of Life And Death in with shit albums from 1990 - to 2003's shit album Dance Of Death,I have always given AMOLAD a break because of how shitty Iron Maiden's song writting skills are so what your saying again is a mear joke,you failed yet again shit for brains,face it you can't top me and never will because your not smart enough haha!
Just because I said it was "great" I never said "how great" and for a shit band like Iron Maiden it "is great" I'll take it and it doesn't mean-that I side it in with those elite albums as I've said. Wich is a far cry from a contradiction like you are consistantly dickhead lol! Down The Irons lofao!!!!!
Oh god that would fuckin suck balls lol! I would hate to see that live,there are 13 tracks that are listed there that make me puke but again to each his own. I guess I really don't like this band,I like thier 1980's stuff and that is to me a different band altogether. Its just the song writting that kills it for me,I'll never hear another new Iron Maiden album that I like and can compare to elite albums such as the band's first 5 studio albums. And as for seeing this shit band live no freakin way,if I hate the new album I'll not see em' live and that goes for any band's new album.
This is all opinions again mine isn't the final say but for me personally being a fan of Iron Maiden since 1982 I've been let down with every album starting from 1986's Somewhere In Time" all the way till now,sure I like bits and pieces here and there but I can never get a kick ass product from Iron maiden and its a shame and a let down for me.This band is dead and I have to face it,they will never put out a studio album that I like all the way through again. Down the Irons.
jimmyjames wrote:
Ok here is a setlist compiled only of songs from 1990 and later. Out of respect I have not included anything from the Blaze Bayley era. This actually only gives me five albums to work with. No Prayer, Fear, Brave New World, Dance Of Death and AMOLAD. I have tried to pick tracks that I think would sound good live. In some cases they are not that great on the album but in a live setting would be cool.
1) Be Quick Or Be Dead
2) The Wicker Man
3) Montsegur
4) Out Of the Shadows
5) Holy Smoke
6) Ghost Of The Navigator
7) Paschendale
8) From Here To Eternity
9) Lord Of Light
10) Wildest Dreams
11) Running Silent, Running Deep
12) The Reincarnation Of Benjamin Breeg
13) Face In The Sand
14) Brighter Than A Thousand Suns
15) Fear Is The Key
16) Rainmaker
17) Tailgunner
18) The Mercenary
19) Bring Your Daughter To The Slaughter
20) Fear Of the Dark
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Thats cool jimmy,we can't all agree on everything however,I do see why you like Somewhere In Time and not really thrilled about the last 2f the band's career as neither am I. The track that kills me that I freaking HATE is "Heaven Can Wait"...oohhh that song,the chorus spanks of bad ideas and Bruce's voice is extremely irritating when he sings it. AARRGGHH. That song and the chorus to the opening track Caught Somewhere In Time is almost equally irritatiing to me just as the AMOLAD is irritating to almost everyone else.
So how about a Maiden tour with just them playing songs from 1990 -2006? That to me would be absolutely lame.
jimmyjames wrote:
Somewhere In Time is the most under-rated Maiden album. I don't think it has a weak track. Some people might say De Ja Vu, Sea Of Madness or The Loneliness Of The Long Distance Runner are not that great but I reckon they are cool songs. It also has top notch cover artwork and three songs that are Maiden classics, Wasted Years, Stranger In A Strange Land and Heaven Can Wait.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
WOW. I'm impressed...somebody who isn't afraid of listing Iron Maiden albums however I am utterly "shocked" at how you list Somewhere In Time over Killers,Piece Of mind,Iron Maiden and Powerslave....from 1986 when it came out till now I'm still trying to figure out what is good about this album I can't take any of it,not even one song but I must have to say to each his own. At least this is "an opinion" and your not saying "oh gaga everything they do is equally excellent". I agree that AMOLAD is boring,even though I do like most of it it isn't anywhere near,not even near thier first 5 studio albums(1980 - 1984).
Whats also interesting is your first 7 albums listed are all from the 1980's and my first 6 albums are also from the 1980's and the rest is all rated as "aeh..ok" to "shit" from both our opionions. I can't even fathom how many people/fans have said the same thing year after year that the 80's material is the band's best and everything else is "ah...ok I guess"...everybody nowadays just wants to see the band "live" because they can't "get anything special" out of thier albums from 1990 till now,they just can't get anything they want from these less than average albums.
I'd like to see how many people would go see Iron Maiden if they were to only play songs from the shitty albums from 1990 No Prayer For The Dying to now with A Matter Of life And Death"...1990 - 2006 no "Number Of The Beast" song no nothing just those albums from 1990 to 2006,I'm sure they would still pack em' in because of how many fan boys out there but I'd still bet there wouldn't be as many people excited about it.
jimmyjames wrote:
Ok, I wouldn't really call it a challenge though.
Number Of The Beast ( awesome )
Somewhere In Time ( awesome )
Killers ( awesome )
Piece Of Mind ( agree about Quest For Fire and don't really like To Tame A Land either )
Powerslave ( Solid but the good songs aren't as good as the good songs on POM )
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son ( Great all round album, a touch mellodramatic )
Iron Maiden ( This and Seventh Son I rate equally )
Fear Of The Dark ( Not bad, 7/10 )
Dance Of Death ( A few good songs )
Brave New World ( A few good songs , I rate this and Dance Of Death equally )
No Prayer For The Dying ( Boring )
A Matter Of Life And Death ( Long and boring )
X Factor ( Crap )
Virtual XI ( haven't even heard it because X factor was so crap. )
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Hey jimmy,since "you know what your talking about"...why don't "YOU" list your favorite Iron Maiden studio albums from the best album to the most shit album and you have to list if you like the album or not,this has nothing to do with the baby fanboy but I'm just courious what your ratings would be,so are you up for the challange since you seem to know just about everything or are you afraid of what your fanboy will say? I say you will "chicken out".....
Heres mine:
Killers - exellent
Iron Maiden-excellent
The Number Of The Beast-excellent
Piece Of Mind -excellent except for Quest For Fire the shit song
Powerslave-awsome except for The Duellists shit song
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son -good album except for The Evil That Men Do crappy song
A Matter Of Life And Death -fair album except for Different World and Benjamim Bragg shit songs
Brave New World -half "ok" half shit album
Somewhere In Time-poor album
Fear Of The Dark- shit album except for the song Be Quick Or Be Dead that song is awsome on a shit album
No Prayer For The Dying -shit album except for Mother Russia that track is good
Dance Of Death - horrible shitty record I hate it all
Virtual Eleven-total SHIT
The X Factor - total SHIT
Well step up mr.major in the english language.... lets see where you stand on Iron Maiden's discography...
And to the fanboy...we need nothing from you as remember..this thread is for serious Iron Maiden discussions" as you haven't added one aspect of anything serious about the band yet lol!!!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:18:54 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I know exactly what I'm talking about.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Whatever dude,if thats what makes you "feel better' than go for it .Its no skin off my nuts. You obviously don't know what your even talking about so I'll lay this un-needed conversation to rest,you need to learn what your talking about before you question.
jimmyjames wrote:
So you are being anal about the way the sentence was structured? Maybe he didn't say it the "correct" way but I understood perfectly what Brian was getting at and I'm sure you did too. You're just looking for a fight because you don't like Brian.
PS. You are extremely anal about everything to do with metal.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Ha ha,thats not correct jimmy as you and Brian are not understanding what these statements actually mean in a stuctured sentence.I'm not being "anal" about anything jimmy,Brian has contradicted himself and I just called him out on it,no need for you to worry about it,but we will "agree to disagree" thats all.
And I'm not the Maiden fanboy,you should dedicate that Twilight Zone song to Brian...after all,any other song by any other band that did not have a guitar solo in it is considered "not good" but if its an Iron Maiden song than it "is good" and doesn't really need one. HA!
Brian Evans wrote today: "And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good"
Brian Evans wrote: "What every goodmetal track should have is an excellent guitar solo"
Think about it. lol!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:39:23 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
To make up for disappointing you I will play Twilight Zone on my show next week and dedicate to you.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
No jimmy,I'm afraid your wrong on this one pal.He said every track should have one to be "good". Your not understanding the meanings of these sentences,look them up and you will find I'm right. Your confusing the words should and has together,look them up in sentences and depending on how its used they are showing what I'm saying is absolutely correct. We'll have to agree to disagree,no problem but he just basically said that the song Twilight Zone is not a "good" track unless it had an 'excellent" guitar solo in it, the word "good" in the sentence is why I'm right,had he worded it another way then you'd be right....
Its not that hard to understand,I'm disappointed in you jimmy hahahaha!!!!
JD, he didn't say every great song "has" to have a great solo. What you think he was saying and what he said are two different things. You are wrong on this one.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Brian Evans wrote March 1st in you tube videos thread: Bathory formed in 1983. Ha! 1983? HaHaHA!! Thats too funny! Where's the good guitar solo? No way these guys can compete with the masters like Iron Maiden
(lol!) Oh ok,so you laugh at Bathory for not playing a guitar solo but its ok if Iron maiden doesn't play a guitar solo in the song Twilight Zone?
LOL! Fuckin contradictional fanboy! LOL! Gotcha!
Brian_Evans wrote:
"And yeah I knew you would throw the live versions of the JP tunes,thats why I posted what I posted for you to shy away from the Iron Maiden Twilight Zone non-guitar solo track."
I didn't shy away from anything. You're just grasping at straws here and you probably don't even know how to play chess. The bass solo thing I said was just a joke. Although Steve Harris does more in that track than most bass players do in ten. Twlight Zone is a solid metal track. And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good. Read the post five more times and maybe just maybe(fingers crossed) you will finally catch on. You can't stump me man, give it up and go back to your littie Saxon cave of a thread. You're out of your element here.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:21:48 AM)
Edited at: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:26:58 PM
Edited at: Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:02:55 PM
On March 20th J.D. Diamond wrote:
"A Matter Of Life And Death is agreat albumwith 10 songs on it there are only 2 tracks that I do not like"
"But the other 8 songs I really like,those 8 songs although they are a little bit progressive but in a great way done right they remind me of material from Piece Of Mind and Powerslave."
TodayJ.D. Diamond wrote this:
"This is all opinions again mine isn't the final say but for me personally being a fan of Iron Maiden since 1982 I've been let down withevery albumstarting from 1986's Somewhere In Time" all the way till now"
Hey Diamond, so how is "A Matter Of Life And Death" that you described as a "great album" and 8 out of ten songs reminds you of "Piece of Mind" and "Powerslave" of the elite 80's era Maiden a let down? Now look who's contradicting themselves?
Bahaa!
Edited at: Saturday, March 27, 2010 1:35:28 AM
[Brian_Evans] Friday, March 26, 2010 9:43:53 PM
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Oh god that would fuckin suck balls lol! I would hate to see that live,there are 13 tracks that are listed there that make me puke but again to each his own. I guess I really don't like this band,I like thier 1980's stuff and that is to me a different band altogether. Its just the song writting that kills it for me,I'll never hear another new Iron Maiden album that I like and can compare to elite albums such as the band's first 5 studio albums. And as for seeing this shit band live no freakin way,if I hate the new album I'll not see em' live and that goes for any band's new album.
This is all opinions again mine isn't the final say but for me personally being a fan of Iron Maiden since 1982 I've been let down with every album starting from 1986's Somewhere In Time" all the way till now,sure I like bits and pieces here and there but I can never get a kick ass product from Iron maiden and its a shame and a let down for me.This band is dead and I have to face it,they will never put out a studio album that I like all the way through again. Down the Irons.
jimmyjames wrote:
Ok here is a setlist compiled only of songs from 1990 and later. Out of respect I have not included anything from the Blaze Bayley era. This actually only gives me five albums to work with. No Prayer, Fear, Brave New World, Dance Of Death and AMOLAD. I have tried to pick tracks that I think would sound good live. In some cases they are not that great on the album but in a live setting would be cool.
1) Be Quick Or Be Dead
2) The Wicker Man
3) Montsegur
4) Out Of the Shadows
5) Holy Smoke
6) Ghost Of The Navigator
7) Paschendale
8) From Here To Eternity
9) Lord Of Light
10) Wildest Dreams
11) Running Silent, Running Deep
12) The Reincarnation Of Benjamin Breeg
13) Face In The Sand
14) Brighter Than A Thousand Suns
15) Fear Is The Key
16) Rainmaker
17) Tailgunner
18) The Mercenary
19) Bring Your Daughter To The Slaughter
20) Fear Of the Dark
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Thats cool jimmy,we can't all agree on everything however,I do see why you like Somewhere In Time and not really thrilled about the last 2f the band's career as neither am I. The track that kills me that I freaking HATE is "Heaven Can Wait"...oohhh that song,the chorus spanks of bad ideas and Bruce's voice is extremely irritating when he sings it. AARRGGHH. That song and the chorus to the opening track Caught Somewhere In Time is almost equally irritatiing to me just as the AMOLAD is irritating to almost everyone else.
So how about a Maiden tour with just them playing songs from 1990 -2006? That to me would be absolutely lame.
jimmyjames wrote:
Somewhere In Time is the most under-rated Maiden album. I don't think it has a weak track. Some people might say De Ja Vu, Sea Of Madness or The Loneliness Of The Long Distance Runner are not that great but I reckon they are cool songs. It also has top notch cover artwork and three songs that are Maiden classics, Wasted Years, Stranger In A Strange Land and Heaven Can Wait.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
WOW. I'm impressed...somebody who isn't afraid of listing Iron Maiden albums however I am utterly "shocked" at how you list Somewhere In Time over Killers,Piece Of mind,Iron Maiden and Powerslave....from 1986 when it came out till now I'm still trying to figure out what is good about this album I can't take any of it,not even one song but I must have to say to each his own. At least this is "an opinion" and your not saying "oh gaga everything they do is equally excellent". I agree that AMOLAD is boring,even though I do like most of it it isn't anywhere near,not even near thier first 5 studio albums(1980 - 1984).
Whats also interesting is your first 7 albums listed are all from the 1980's and my first 6 albums are also from the 1980's and the rest is all rated as "aeh..ok" to "shit" from both our opionions. I can't even fathom how many people/fans have said the same thing year after year that the 80's material is the band's best and everything else is "ah...ok I guess"...everybody nowadays just wants to see the band "live" because they can't "get anything special" out of thier albums from 1990 till now,they just can't get anything they want from these less than average albums.
I'd like to see how many people would go see Iron Maiden if they were to only play songs from the shitty albums from 1990 No Prayer For The Dying to now with A Matter Of life And Death"...1990 - 2006 no "Number Of The Beast" song no nothing just those albums from 1990 to 2006,I'm sure they would still pack em' in because of how many fan boys out there but I'd still bet there wouldn't be as many people excited about it.
jimmyjames wrote:
Ok, I wouldn't really call it a challenge though.
Number Of The Beast ( awesome )
Somewhere In Time ( awesome )
Killers ( awesome )
Piece Of Mind ( agree about Quest For Fire and don't really like To Tame A Land either )
Powerslave ( Solid but the good songs aren't as good as the good songs on POM )
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son ( Great all round album, a touch mellodramatic )
Iron Maiden ( This and Seventh Son I rate equally )
Fear Of The Dark ( Not bad, 7/10 )
Dance Of Death ( A few good songs )
Brave New World ( A few good songs , I rate this and Dance Of Death equally )
No Prayer For The Dying ( Boring )
A Matter Of Life And Death ( Long and boring )
X Factor ( Crap )
Virtual XI ( haven't even heard it because X factor was so crap. )
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Hey jimmy,since "you know what your talking about"...why don't "YOU" list your favorite Iron Maiden studio albums from the best album to the most shit album and you have to list if you like the album or not,this has nothing to do with the baby fanboy but I'm just courious what your ratings would be,so are you up for the challange since you seem to know just about everything or are you afraid of what your fanboy will say? I say you will "chicken out".....
Heres mine:
Killers - exellent
Iron Maiden-excellent
The Number Of The Beast-excellent
Piece Of Mind -excellent except for Quest For Fire the shit song
Powerslave-awsome except for The Duellists shit song
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son -good album except for The Evil That Men Do crappy song
A Matter Of Life And Death -fair album except for Different World and Benjamim Bragg shit songs
Brave New World -half "ok" half shit album
Somewhere In Time-poor album
Fear Of The Dark- shit album except for the song Be Quick Or Be Dead that song is awsome on a shit album
No Prayer For The Dying -shit album except for Mother Russia that track is good
Dance Of Death - horrible shitty record I hate it all
Virtual Eleven-total SHIT
The X Factor - total SHIT
Well step up mr.major in the english language.... lets see where you stand on Iron Maiden's discography...
And to the fanboy...we need nothing from you as remember..this thread is for serious Iron Maiden discussions" as you haven't added one aspect of anything serious about the band yet lol!!!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:18:54 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I know exactly what I'm talking about.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Whatever dude,if thats what makes you "feel better' than go for it .Its no skin off my nuts. You obviously don't know what your even talking about so I'll lay this un-needed conversation to rest,you need to learn what your talking about before you question.
jimmyjames wrote:
So you are being anal about the way the sentence was structured? Maybe he didn't say it the "correct" way but I understood perfectly what Brian was getting at and I'm sure you did too. You're just looking for a fight because you don't like Brian.
PS. You are extremely anal about everything to do with metal.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Ha ha,thats not correct jimmy as you and Brian are not understanding what these statements actually mean in a stuctured sentence.I'm not being "anal" about anything jimmy,Brian has contradicted himself and I just called him out on it,no need for you to worry about it,but we will "agree to disagree" thats all.
And I'm not the Maiden fanboy,you should dedicate that Twilight Zone song to Brian...after all,any other song by any other band that did not have a guitar solo in it is considered "not good" but if its an Iron Maiden song than it "is good" and doesn't really need one. HA!
Brian Evans wrote today: "And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good"
Brian Evans wrote: "What every goodmetal track should have is an excellent guitar solo"
Think about it. lol!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:39:23 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
To make up for disappointing you I will play Twilight Zone on my show next week and dedicate to you.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
No jimmy,I'm afraid your wrong on this one pal.He said every track should have one to be "good". Your not understanding the meanings of these sentences,look them up and you will find I'm right. Your confusing the words should and has together,look them up in sentences and depending on how its used they are showing what I'm saying is absolutely correct. We'll have to agree to disagree,no problem but he just basically said that the song Twilight Zone is not a "good" track unless it had an 'excellent" guitar solo in it, the word "good" in the sentence is why I'm right,had he worded it another way then you'd be right....
Its not that hard to understand,I'm disappointed in you jimmy hahahaha!!!!
JD, he didn't say every great song "has" to have a great solo. What you think he was saying and what he said are two different things. You are wrong on this one.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Brian Evans wrote March 1st in you tube videos thread: Bathory formed in 1983. Ha! 1983? HaHaHA!! Thats too funny! Where's the good guitar solo? No way these guys can compete with the masters like Iron Maiden
(lol!) Oh ok,so you laugh at Bathory for not playing a guitar solo but its ok if Iron maiden doesn't play a guitar solo in the song Twilight Zone?
LOL! Fuckin contradictional fanboy! LOL! Gotcha!
Brian_Evans wrote:
"And yeah I knew you would throw the live versions of the JP tunes,thats why I posted what I posted for you to shy away from the Iron Maiden Twilight Zone non-guitar solo track."
I didn't shy away from anything. You're just grasping at straws here and you probably don't even know how to play chess. The bass solo thing I said was just a joke. Although Steve Harris does more in that track than most bass players do in ten. Twlight Zone is a solid metal track. And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good. Read the post five more times and maybe just maybe(fingers crossed) you will finally catch on. You can't stump me man, give it up and go back to your littie Saxon cave of a thread. You're out of your element here.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:21:48 AM)
Edited at: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:26:58 PM
Edited at: Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:02:55 PM
On March 20th J.D. Diamond wrote:
"A Matter Of Life And Death is agreat albumwith 10 songs on it there are only 2 tracks that I do not like"
"But the other 8 songs I really like,those 8 songs although they are a little bit progressive but in a great way done right they remind me of material from Piece Of Mind and Powerslave."
TodayJ.D. Diamond wrote this:
"This is all opinions again mine isn't the final say but for me personally being a fan of Iron Maiden since 1982 I've been let down withevery albumstarting from 1986's Somewhere In Time" all the way till now"
Hey Diamond, so how is "A Matter Of Life And Death" that you described as a "great album" and 8 out of ten songs reminds you of "Piece of Mind" and "Powerslave" of the elite 80's era Maiden a let down? Now look who's contradicting themselves?
Bahaa! Edited at: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:12:09 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, March 26, 2010 8:22:17 PM
Oh god that would fuckin suck balls lol! I would hate to see that live,there are 13 tracks that are listed there that make me puke but again to each his own. I guess I really don't like this band,I like thier 1980's stuff and that is to me a different band altogether. Its just the song writting that kills it for me,I'll never hear another new Iron Maiden album that I like and can compare to elite albums such as the band's first 5 studio albums. And as for seeing this shit band live no freakin way,if I hate the new album I'll not see em' live and that goes for any band's new album.
This is all opinions again mine isn't the final say but for me personally being a fan of Iron Maiden since 1982 I've been let down with every album starting from 1986's Somewhere In Time" all the way till now,sure I like bits and pieces here and there but I can never get a kick ass product from Iron maiden and its a shame and a let down for me.This band is dead and I have to face it,they will never put out a studio album that I like all the way through again. Down the Irons. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Friday, March 26, 2010 3:43:48 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Ok here is a setlist compiled only of songs from 1990 and later. Out of respect I have not included anything from the Blaze Bayley era. This actually only gives me five albums to work with. No Prayer, Fear, Brave New World, Dance Of Death and AMOLAD. I have tried to pick tracks that I think would sound good live. In some cases they are not that great on the album but in a live setting would be cool.
1) Be Quick Or Be Dead
2) The Wicker Man
3) Montsegur
4) Out Of the Shadows
5) Holy Smoke
6) Ghost Of The Navigator
7) Paschendale
8) From Here To Eternity
9) Lord Of Light
10) Wildest Dreams
11) Running Silent, Running Deep
12) The Reincarnation Of Benjamin Breeg
13) Face In The Sand
14) Brighter Than A Thousand Suns
15) Fear Is The Key
16) Rainmaker
17) Tailgunner
18) The Mercenary
19) Bring Your Daughter To The Slaughter
20) Fear Of the Dark
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Thats cool jimmy,we can't all agree on everything however,I do see why you like Somewhere In Time and not really thrilled about the last 2f the band's career as neither am I. The track that kills me that I freaking HATE is "Heaven Can Wait"...oohhh that song,the chorus spanks of bad ideas and Bruce's voice is extremely irritating when he sings it. AARRGGHH. That song and the chorus to the opening track Caught Somewhere In Time is almost equally irritatiing to me just as the AMOLAD is irritating to almost everyone else.
So how about a Maiden tour with just them playing songs from 1990 -2006? That to me would be absolutely lame.
jimmyjames wrote:
Somewhere In Time is the most under-rated Maiden album. I don't think it has a weak track. Some people might say De Ja Vu, Sea Of Madness or The Loneliness Of The Long Distance Runner are not that great but I reckon they are cool songs. It also has top notch cover artwork and three songs that are Maiden classics, Wasted Years, Stranger In A Strange Land and Heaven Can Wait.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
WOW. I'm impressed...somebody who isn't afraid of listing Iron Maiden albums however I am utterly "shocked" at how you list Somewhere In Time over Killers,Piece Of mind,Iron Maiden and Powerslave....from 1986 when it came out till now I'm still trying to figure out what is good about this album I can't take any of it,not even one song but I must have to say to each his own. At least this is "an opinion" and your not saying "oh gaga everything they do is equally excellent". I agree that AMOLAD is boring,even though I do like most of it it isn't anywhere near,not even near thier first 5 studio albums(1980 - 1984).
Whats also interesting is your first 7 albums listed are all from the 1980's and my first 6 albums are also from the 1980's and the rest is all rated as "aeh..ok" to "shit" from both our opionions. I can't even fathom how many people/fans have said the same thing year after year that the 80's material is the band's best and everything else is "ah...ok I guess"...everybody nowadays just wants to see the band "live" because they can't "get anything special" out of thier albums from 1990 till now,they just can't get anything they want from these less than average albums.
I'd like to see how many people would go see Iron Maiden if they were to only play songs from the shitty albums from 1990 No Prayer For The Dying to now with A Matter Of life And Death"...1990 - 2006 no "Number Of The Beast" song no nothing just those albums from 1990 to 2006,I'm sure they would still pack em' in because of how many fan boys out there but I'd still bet there wouldn't be as many people excited about it.
jimmyjames wrote:
Ok, I wouldn't really call it a challenge though.
Number Of The Beast ( awesome )
Somewhere In Time ( awesome )
Killers ( awesome )
Piece Of Mind ( agree about Quest For Fire and don't really like To Tame A Land either )
Powerslave ( Solid but the good songs aren't as good as the good songs on POM )
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son ( Great all round album, a touch mellodramatic )
Iron Maiden ( This and Seventh Son I rate equally )
Fear Of The Dark ( Not bad, 7/10 )
Dance Of Death ( A few good songs )
Brave New World ( A few good songs , I rate this and Dance Of Death equally )
No Prayer For The Dying ( Boring )
A Matter Of Life And Death ( Long and boring )
X Factor ( Crap )
Virtual XI ( haven't even heard it because X factor was so crap. )
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Hey jimmy,since "you know what your talking about"...why don't "YOU" list your favorite Iron Maiden studio albums from the best album to the most shit album and you have to list if you like the album or not,this has nothing to do with the baby fanboy but I'm just courious what your ratings would be,so are you up for the challange since you seem to know just about everything or are you afraid of what your fanboy will say? I say you will "chicken out".....
Heres mine:
Killers - exellent
Iron Maiden-excellent
The Number Of The Beast-excellent
Piece Of Mind -excellent except for Quest For Fire the shit song
Powerslave-awsome except for The Duellists shit song
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son -good album except for The Evil That Men Do crappy song
A Matter Of Life And Death -fair album except for Different World and Benjamim Bragg shit songs
Brave New World -half "ok" half shit album
Somewhere In Time-poor album
Fear Of The Dark- shit album except for the song Be Quick Or Be Dead that song is awsome on a shit album
No Prayer For The Dying -shit album except for Mother Russia that track is good
Dance Of Death - horrible shitty record I hate it all
Virtual Eleven-total SHIT
The X Factor - total SHIT
Well step up mr.major in the english language.... lets see where you stand on Iron Maiden's discography...
And to the fanboy...we need nothing from you as remember..this thread is for serious Iron Maiden discussions" as you haven't added one aspect of anything serious about the band yet lol!!!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:18:54 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I know exactly what I'm talking about.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Whatever dude,if thats what makes you "feel better' than go for it .Its no skin off my nuts. You obviously don't know what your even talking about so I'll lay this un-needed conversation to rest,you need to learn what your talking about before you question.
jimmyjames wrote:
So you are being anal about the way the sentence was structured? Maybe he didn't say it the "correct" way but I understood perfectly what Brian was getting at and I'm sure you did too. You're just looking for a fight because you don't like Brian.
PS. You are extremely anal about everything to do with metal.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Ha ha,thats not correct jimmy as you and Brian are not understanding what these statements actually mean in a stuctured sentence.I'm not being "anal" about anything jimmy,Brian has contradicted himself and I just called him out on it,no need for you to worry about it,but we will "agree to disagree" thats all.
And I'm not the Maiden fanboy,you should dedicate that Twilight Zone song to Brian...after all,any other song by any other band that did not have a guitar solo in it is considered "not good" but if its an Iron Maiden song than it "is good" and doesn't really need one. HA!
Brian Evans wrote today: "And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good"
Brian Evans wrote: "What every goodmetal track should have is an excellent guitar solo"
Think about it. lol!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:39:23 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
To make up for disappointing you I will play Twilight Zone on my show next week and dedicate to you.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
No jimmy,I'm afraid your wrong on this one pal.He said every track should have one to be "good". Your not understanding the meanings of these sentences,look them up and you will find I'm right. Your confusing the words should and has together,look them up in sentences and depending on how its used they are showing what I'm saying is absolutely correct. We'll have to agree to disagree,no problem but he just basically said that the song Twilight Zone is not a "good" track unless it had an 'excellent" guitar solo in it, the word "good" in the sentence is why I'm right,had he worded it another way then you'd be right....
Its not that hard to understand,I'm disappointed in you jimmy hahahaha!!!!
JD, he didn't say every great song "has" to have a great solo. What you think he was saying and what he said are two different things. You are wrong on this one.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Brian Evans wrote March 1st in you tube videos thread: Bathory formed in 1983. Ha! 1983? HaHaHA!! Thats too funny! Where's the good guitar solo? No way these guys can compete with the masters like Iron Maiden
(lol!) Oh ok,so you laugh at Bathory for not playing a guitar solo but its ok if Iron maiden doesn't play a guitar solo in the song Twilight Zone?
LOL! Fuckin contradictional fanboy! LOL! Gotcha!
Brian_Evans wrote:
"And yeah I knew you would throw the live versions of the JP tunes,thats why I posted what I posted for you to shy away from the Iron Maiden Twilight Zone non-guitar solo track."
I didn't shy away from anything. You're just grasping at straws here and you probably don't even know how to play chess. The bass solo thing I said was just a joke. Although Steve Harris does more in that track than most bass players do in ten. Twlight Zone is a solid metal track. And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good. Read the post five more times and maybe just maybe(fingers crossed) you will finally catch on. You can't stump me man, give it up and go back to your littie Saxon cave of a thread. You're out of your element here.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:21:48 AM)
Edited at: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:26:58 PM
Edited at: Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:02:55 PM
[Al-fons Blazing] Friday, March 26, 2010 3:45:43 PM
Hello friens,
See you all at the Iron Maiden Forum. I'll start the "Judas Priest discussion" thread there.
Seriously, at this Noticeboard, we can talk about whatever we want.
Once, I tried to talk about The Mighty Priest at the Maiden forum, and GOT BANNED!!!!
By the way, what do you expect from the forthcoming Maiden album "The Final Frontier" I wish it will be as good as AMOLAD.
[jimmyjames] Friday, March 26, 2010 3:43:48 PM
Ok here is a setlist compiled only of songs from 1990 and later. Out of respect I have not included anything from the Blaze Bayley era. This actually only gives me five albums to work with. No Prayer, Fear, Brave New World, Dance Of Death and AMOLAD. I have tried to pick tracks that I think would sound good live. In some cases they are not that great on the album but in a live setting would be cool.
1) Be Quick Or Be Dead
2) The Wicker Man
3) Montsegur
4) Out Of the Shadows
5) Holy Smoke
6) Ghost Of The Navigator
7) Paschendale
8) From Here To Eternity
9) Lord Of Light
10) Wildest Dreams
11) Running Silent, Running Deep
12) The Reincarnation Of Benjamin Breeg
13) Face In The Sand
14) Brighter Than A Thousand Suns
15) Fear Is The Key
16) Rainmaker
17) Tailgunner
18) The Mercenary
19) Bring Your Daughter To The Slaughter
20) Fear Of the Dark [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:20:07 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Thats cool jimmy,we can't all agree on everything however,I do see why you like Somewhere In Time and not really thrilled about the last 2f the band's career as neither am I. The track that kills me that I freaking HATE is "Heaven Can Wait"...oohhh that song,the chorus spanks of bad ideas and Bruce's voice is extremely irritating when he sings it. AARRGGHH. That song and the chorus to the opening track Caught Somewhere In Time is almost equally irritatiing to me just as the AMOLAD is irritating to almost everyone else.
So how about a Maiden tour with just them playing songs from 1990 -2006? That to me would be absolutely lame.
jimmyjames wrote:
Somewhere In Time is the most under-rated Maiden album. I don't think it has a weak track. Some people might say De Ja Vu, Sea Of Madness or The Loneliness Of The Long Distance Runner are not that great but I reckon they are cool songs. It also has top notch cover artwork and three songs that are Maiden classics, Wasted Years, Stranger In A Strange Land and Heaven Can Wait.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
WOW. I'm impressed...somebody who isn't afraid of listing Iron Maiden albums however I am utterly "shocked" at how you list Somewhere In Time over Killers,Piece Of mind,Iron Maiden and Powerslave....from 1986 when it came out till now I'm still trying to figure out what is good about this album I can't take any of it,not even one song but I must have to say to each his own. At least this is "an opinion" and your not saying "oh gaga everything they do is equally excellent". I agree that AMOLAD is boring,even though I do like most of it it isn't anywhere near,not even near thier first 5 studio albums(1980 - 1984).
Whats also interesting is your first 7 albums listed are all from the 1980's and my first 6 albums are also from the 1980's and the rest is all rated as "aeh..ok" to "shit" from both our opionions. I can't even fathom how many people/fans have said the same thing year after year that the 80's material is the band's best and everything else is "ah...ok I guess"...everybody nowadays just wants to see the band "live" because they can't "get anything special" out of thier albums from 1990 till now,they just can't get anything they want from these less than average albums.
I'd like to see how many people would go see Iron Maiden if they were to only play songs from the shitty albums from 1990 No Prayer For The Dying to now with A Matter Of life And Death"...1990 - 2006 no "Number Of The Beast" song no nothing just those albums from 1990 to 2006,I'm sure they would still pack em' in because of how many fan boys out there but I'd still bet there wouldn't be as many people excited about it.
jimmyjames wrote:
Ok, I wouldn't really call it a challenge though.
Number Of The Beast ( awesome )
Somewhere In Time ( awesome )
Killers ( awesome )
Piece Of Mind ( agree about Quest For Fire and don't really like To Tame A Land either )
Powerslave ( Solid but the good songs aren't as good as the good songs on POM )
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son ( Great all round album, a touch mellodramatic )
Iron Maiden ( This and Seventh Son I rate equally )
Fear Of The Dark ( Not bad, 7/10 )
Dance Of Death ( A few good songs )
Brave New World ( A few good songs , I rate this and Dance Of Death equally )
No Prayer For The Dying ( Boring )
A Matter Of Life And Death ( Long and boring )
X Factor ( Crap )
Virtual XI ( haven't even heard it because X factor was so crap. )
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Hey jimmy,since "you know what your talking about"...why don't "YOU" list your favorite Iron Maiden studio albums from the best album to the most shit album and you have to list if you like the album or not,this has nothing to do with the baby fanboy but I'm just courious what your ratings would be,so are you up for the challange since you seem to know just about everything or are you afraid of what your fanboy will say? I say you will "chicken out".....
Heres mine:
Killers - exellent
Iron Maiden-excellent
The Number Of The Beast-excellent
Piece Of Mind -excellent except for Quest For Fire the shit song
Powerslave-awsome except for The Duellists shit song
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son -good album except for The Evil That Men Do crappy song
A Matter Of Life And Death -fair album except for Different World and Benjamim Bragg shit songs
Brave New World -half "ok" half shit album
Somewhere In Time-poor album
Fear Of The Dark- shit album except for the song Be Quick Or Be Dead that song is awsome on a shit album
No Prayer For The Dying -shit album except for Mother Russia that track is good
Dance Of Death - horrible shitty record I hate it all
Virtual Eleven-total SHIT
The X Factor - total SHIT
Well step up mr.major in the english language.... lets see where you stand on Iron Maiden's discography...
And to the fanboy...we need nothing from you as remember..this thread is for serious Iron Maiden discussions" as you haven't added one aspect of anything serious about the band yet lol!!!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:18:54 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I know exactly what I'm talking about.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Whatever dude,if thats what makes you "feel better' than go for it .Its no skin off my nuts. You obviously don't know what your even talking about so I'll lay this un-needed conversation to rest,you need to learn what your talking about before you question.
jimmyjames wrote:
So you are being anal about the way the sentence was structured? Maybe he didn't say it the "correct" way but I understood perfectly what Brian was getting at and I'm sure you did too. You're just looking for a fight because you don't like Brian.
PS. You are extremely anal about everything to do with metal.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Ha ha,thats not correct jimmy as you and Brian are not understanding what these statements actually mean in a stuctured sentence.I'm not being "anal" about anything jimmy,Brian has contradicted himself and I just called him out on it,no need for you to worry about it,but we will "agree to disagree" thats all.
And I'm not the Maiden fanboy,you should dedicate that Twilight Zone song to Brian...after all,any other song by any other band that did not have a guitar solo in it is considered "not good" but if its an Iron Maiden song than it "is good" and doesn't really need one. HA!
Brian Evans wrote today: "And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good"
Brian Evans wrote: "What every goodmetal track should have is an excellent guitar solo"
Think about it. lol!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:39:23 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
To make up for disappointing you I will play Twilight Zone on my show next week and dedicate to you.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
No jimmy,I'm afraid your wrong on this one pal.He said every track should have one to be "good". Your not understanding the meanings of these sentences,look them up and you will find I'm right. Your confusing the words should and has together,look them up in sentences and depending on how its used they are showing what I'm saying is absolutely correct. We'll have to agree to disagree,no problem but he just basically said that the song Twilight Zone is not a "good" track unless it had an 'excellent" guitar solo in it, the word "good" in the sentence is why I'm right,had he worded it another way then you'd be right....
Its not that hard to understand,I'm disappointed in you jimmy hahahaha!!!!
JD, he didn't say every great song "has" to have a great solo. What you think he was saying and what he said are two different things. You are wrong on this one.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Brian Evans wrote March 1st in you tube videos thread: Bathory formed in 1983. Ha! 1983? HaHaHA!! Thats too funny! Where's the good guitar solo? No way these guys can compete with the masters like Iron Maiden
(lol!) Oh ok,so you laugh at Bathory for not playing a guitar solo but its ok if Iron maiden doesn't play a guitar solo in the song Twilight Zone?
LOL! Fuckin contradictional fanboy! LOL! Gotcha!
Brian_Evans wrote:
"And yeah I knew you would throw the live versions of the JP tunes,thats why I posted what I posted for you to shy away from the Iron Maiden Twilight Zone non-guitar solo track."
I didn't shy away from anything. You're just grasping at straws here and you probably don't even know how to play chess. The bass solo thing I said was just a joke. Although Steve Harris does more in that track than most bass players do in ten. Twlight Zone is a solid metal track. And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good. Read the post five more times and maybe just maybe(fingers crossed) you will finally catch on. You can't stump me man, give it up and go back to your littie Saxon cave of a thread. You're out of your element here.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:21:48 AM)
Edited at: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:26:58 PM
Edited at: Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:02:55 PM
[Brian_Evans] Friday, March 26, 2010 9:15:50 AM
Somewhere back in Time world tour.
[Brian_Evans] Friday, March 26, 2010 9:08:07 AM
Watch it, it might fly back and hit him up side his head.
hey Guido those iron maiden picture disk would make GREAT FRISBES.LOL
guidogodoy wrote:
Well, to be honest, no. Most are not hanging. I have to rotate. Someday I'll post my whole shrine. Notice a couple of Maiden LPs there?
Why we "older folks" often take umbrage when we are accused of "not knowing metal."
jimmyjames wrote:
Those are cool, are they normally hanging up? Never really been an LP collector myself, got cassettes when I was a kid and went to cds from there. My older cousins have truckloads of LPs from the 70s and 80s, should raid their collections and see what's in there. Bound to be a few cool ones.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sad you missed that gen. I value my LPs almost as much as my guitars. I hosted a college metal radio show for years and framed more than one. As I have said before, I can still say where the skips were in DOTF.
Picture LPs. Nothing better.
jimmyjames wrote:
Still got the tape in a box somewhere but my version is on cd. LPs are definately the best for artwork and aesthetics (is that how you spell it ) for sure. Got a record player but it's not set up. Have a few records, Got Priests Rocka Rolla on LP, the one with the bottle top and the one with the futruristic warrior or what ever he is, also Sad Wings on LP and AC/DC Highway and Back In Black, plus a few others, haven't listened to them for years and years.
guidogodoy wrote:
Ah...I hope you have the LP. That is a great loss, I am afraid. While a cassette, CD or even digital might be better in sound, nothing beats holding a work of art in your hands as in an LP. Still own them, still collect them, still have a workable turntable.
jimmyjames wrote:
It was the first Iron Maiden album I ever owned. A guy at school gave it to me on cassette when I was about 12 or 13.
guidogodoy wrote:
I also applaud you for having a friggin' OPINION! Not a pure fanboy who stands by everything. Hell, I have never once said that I am not a Maiden fan but I can't stand their recent material. Not as bad as Metallica but close. IMO, Priest just leaves them in the dust.
Also, I agree with your assessment of "Somewhere." I love some of those songs and, as you said, the artwork is without compare. 'Blade Runner.' While I am a long distance runner, I can't stand the song, however. Sea of Madness, eh.... not my fav. Wasted years and Caught Somewhere in Time are my big favs. Still, I could stare at that artwork forever.
jimmyjames wrote:
Somewhere In Time is the most under-rated Maiden album. I don't think it has a weak track. Some people might say De Ja Vu, Sea Of Madness or The Loneliness Of The Long Distance Runner are not that great but I reckon they are cool songs. It also has top notch cover artwork and three songs that are Maiden classics, Wasted Years, Stranger In A Strange Land and Heaven Can Wait.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
WOW. I'm impressed...somebody who isn't afraid of listing Iron Maiden albums however I am utterly "shocked" at how you list Somewhere In Time over Killers,Piece Of mind,Iron Maiden and Powerslave....from 1986 when it came out till now I'm still trying to figure out what is good about this album I can't take any of it,not even one song but I must have to say to each his own. At least this is "an opinion" and your not saying "oh gaga everything they do is equally excellent". I agree that AMOLAD is boring,even though I do like most of it it isn't anywhere near,not even near thier first 5 studio albums(1980 - 1984).
Whats also interesting is your first 7 albums listed are all from the 1980's and my first 6 albums are also from the 1980's and the rest is all rated as "aeh..ok" to "shit" from both our opionions. I can't even fathom how many people/fans have said the same thing year after year that the 80's material is the band's best and everything else is "ah...ok I guess"...everybody nowadays just wants to see the band "live" because they can't "get anything special" out of thier albums from 1990 till now,they just can't get anything they want from these less than average albums.
I'd like to see how many people would go see Iron Maiden if they were to only play songs from the shitty albums from 1990 No Prayer For The Dying to now with A Matter Of life And Death"...1990 - 2006 no "Number Of The Beast" song no nothing just those albums from 1990 to 2006,I'm sure they would still pack em' in because of how many fan boys out there but I'd still bet there wouldn't be as many people excited about it.
jimmyjames wrote:
Ok, I wouldn't really call it a challenge though.
Number Of The Beast ( awesome )
Somewhere In Time ( awesome )
Killers ( awesome )
Piece Of Mind ( agree about Quest For Fire and don't really like To Tame A Land either )
Powerslave ( Solid but the good songs aren't as good as the good songs on POM )
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son ( Great all round album, a touch mellodramatic )
Iron Maiden ( This and Seventh Son I rate equally )
Fear Of The Dark ( Not bad, 7/10 )
Dance Of Death ( A few good songs )
Brave New World ( A few good songs , I rate this and Dance Of Death equally )
No Prayer For The Dying ( Boring )
A Matter Of Life And Death ( Long and boring )
X Factor ( Crap )
Virtual XI ( haven't even heard it because X factor was so crap. )
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Hey jimmy,since "you know what your talking about"...why don't "YOU" list your favorite Iron Maiden studio albums from the best album to the most shit album and you have to list if you like the album or not,this has nothing to do with the baby fanboy but I'm just courious what your ratings would be,so are you up for the challange since you seem to know just about everything or are you afraid of what your fanboy will say? I say you will "chicken out".....
Heres mine:
Killers - exellent
Iron Maiden-excellent
The Number Of The Beast-excellent
Piece Of Mind -excellent except for Quest For Fire the shit song
Powerslave-awsome except for The Duellists shit song
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son -good album except for The Evil That Men Do crappy song
A Matter Of Life And Death -fair album except for Different World and Benjamim Bragg shit songs
Brave New World -half "ok" half shit album
Somewhere In Time-poor album
Fear Of The Dark- shit album except for the song Be Quick Or Be Dead that song is awsome on a shit album
No Prayer For The Dying -shit album except for Mother Russia that track is good
Dance Of Death - horrible shitty record I hate it all
Virtual Eleven-total SHIT
The X Factor - total SHIT
Well step up mr.major in the english language.... lets see where you stand on Iron Maiden's discography...
And to the fanboy...we need nothing from you as remember..this thread is for serious Iron Maiden discussions" as you haven't added one aspect of anything serious about the band yet lol!!!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:18:54 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I know exactly what I'm talking about.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Whatever dude,if thats what makes you "feel better' than go for it .Its no skin off my nuts. You obviously don't know what your even talking about so I'll lay this un-needed conversation to rest,you need to learn what your talking about before you question.
jimmyjames wrote:
So you are being anal about the way the sentence was structured? Maybe he didn't say it the "correct" way but I understood perfectly what Brian was getting at and I'm sure you did too. You're just looking for a fight because you don't like Brian.
PS. You are extremely anal about everything to do with metal.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Ha ha,thats not correct jimmy as you and Brian are not understanding what these statements actually mean in a stuctured sentence.I'm not being "anal" about anything jimmy,Brian has contradicted himself and I just called him out on it,no need for you to worry about it,but we will "agree to disagree" thats all.
And I'm not the Maiden fanboy,you should dedicate that Twilight Zone song to Brian...after all,any other song by any other band that did not have a guitar solo in it is considered "not good" but if its an Iron Maiden song than it "is good" and doesn't really need one. HA!
Brian Evans wrote today: "And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good"
Brian Evans wrote: "What every goodmetal track should have is an excellent guitar solo"
Think about it. lol!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:39:23 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
To make up for disappointing you I will play Twilight Zone on my show next week and dedicate to you.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
No jimmy,I'm afraid your wrong on this one pal.He said every track should have one to be "good". Your not understanding the meanings of these sentences,look them up and you will find I'm right. Your confusing the words should and has together,look them up in sentences and depending on how its used they are showing what I'm saying is absolutely correct. We'll have to agree to disagree,no problem but he just basically said that the song Twilight Zone is not a "good" track unless it had an 'excellent" guitar solo in it, the word "good" in the sentence is why I'm right,had he worded it another way then you'd be right....
Its not that hard to understand,I'm disappointed in you jimmy hahahaha!!!!
JD, he didn't say every great song "has" to have a great solo. What you think he was saying and what he said are two different things. You are wrong on this one.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Brian Evans wrote March 1st in you tube videos thread: Bathory formed in 1983. Ha! 1983? HaHaHA!! Thats too funny! Where's the good guitar solo? No way these guys can compete with the masters like Iron Maiden
(lol!) Oh ok,so you laugh at Bathory for not playing a guitar solo but its ok if Iron maiden doesn't play a guitar solo in the song Twilight Zone?
LOL! Fuckin contradictional fanboy! LOL! Gotcha!
Brian_Evans wrote:
"And yeah I knew you would throw the live versions of the JP tunes,thats why I posted what I posted for you to shy away from the Iron Maiden Twilight Zone non-guitar solo track."
I didn't shy away from anything. You're just grasping at straws here and you probably don't even know how to play chess. The bass solo thing I said was just a joke. Although Steve Harris does more in that track than most bass players do in ten. Twlight Zone is a solid metal track. And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good. Read the post five more times and maybe just maybe(fingers crossed) you will finally catch on. You can't stump me man, give it up and go back to your littie Saxon cave of a thread. You're out of your element here.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:21:48 AM)
Edited at: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:26:58 PM
Edited at: Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:02:55 PM
Edited at: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:10:14 AM
[hellrider 31038] Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:46:57 PM
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:06:55 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Sad you missed that gen. I value my LPs almost as much as my guitars. I hosted a college metal radio show for years and framed more than one. As I have said before, I can still say where the skips were in DOTF.
Picture LPs. Nothing better.
jimmyjames wrote:
Still got the tape in a box somewhere but my version is on cd. LPs are definately the best for artwork and aesthetics (is that how you spell it ) for sure. Got a record player but it's not set up. Have a few records, Got Priests Rocka Rolla on LP, the one with the bottle top and the one with the futruristic warrior or what ever he is, also Sad Wings on LP and AC/DC Highway and Back In Black, plus a few others, haven't listened to them for years and years.
guidogodoy wrote:
Ah...I hope you have the LP. That is a great loss, I am afraid. While a cassette, CD or even digital might be better in sound, nothing beats holding a work of art in your hands as in an LP. Still own them, still collect them, still have a workable turntable.
jimmyjames wrote:
It was the first Iron Maiden album I ever owned. A guy at school gave it to me on cassette when I was about 12 or 13.
guidogodoy wrote:
I also applaud you for having a friggin' OPINION! Not a pure fanboy who stands by everything. Hell, I have never once said that I am not a Maiden fan but I can't stand their recent material. Not as bad as Metallica but close. IMO, Priest just leaves them in the dust.
Also, I agree with your assessment of "Somewhere." I love some of those songs and, as you said, the artwork is without compare. 'Blade Runner.' While I am a long distance runner, I can't stand the song, however. Sea of Madness, eh.... not my fav. Wasted years and Caught Somewhere in Time are my big favs. Still, I could stare at that artwork forever.
jimmyjames wrote:
Somewhere In Time is the most under-rated Maiden album. I don't think it has a weak track. Some people might say De Ja Vu, Sea Of Madness or The Loneliness Of The Long Distance Runner are not that great but I reckon they are cool songs. It also has top notch cover artwork and three songs that are Maiden classics, Wasted Years, Stranger In A Strange Land and Heaven Can Wait.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
WOW. I'm impressed...somebody who isn't afraid of listing Iron Maiden albums however I am utterly "shocked" at how you list Somewhere In Time over Killers,Piece Of mind,Iron Maiden and Powerslave....from 1986 when it came out till now I'm still trying to figure out what is good about this album I can't take any of it,not even one song but I must have to say to each his own. At least this is "an opinion" and your not saying "oh gaga everything they do is equally excellent". I agree that AMOLAD is boring,even though I do like most of it it isn't anywhere near,not even near thier first 5 studio albums(1980 - 1984).
Whats also interesting is your first 7 albums listed are all from the 1980's and my first 6 albums are also from the 1980's and the rest is all rated as "aeh..ok" to "shit" from both our opionions. I can't even fathom how many people/fans have said the same thing year after year that the 80's material is the band's best and everything else is "ah...ok I guess"...everybody nowadays just wants to see the band "live" because they can't "get anything special" out of thier albums from 1990 till now,they just can't get anything they want from these less than average albums.
I'd like to see how many people would go see Iron Maiden if they were to only play songs from the shitty albums from 1990 No Prayer For The Dying to now with A Matter Of life And Death"...1990 - 2006 no "Number Of The Beast" song no nothing just those albums from 1990 to 2006,I'm sure they would still pack em' in because of how many fan boys out there but I'd still bet there wouldn't be as many people excited about it.
jimmyjames wrote:
Ok, I wouldn't really call it a challenge though.
Number Of The Beast ( awesome )
Somewhere In Time ( awesome )
Killers ( awesome )
Piece Of Mind ( agree about Quest For Fire and don't really like To Tame A Land either )
Powerslave ( Solid but the good songs aren't as good as the good songs on POM )
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son ( Great all round album, a touch mellodramatic )
Iron Maiden ( This and Seventh Son I rate equally )
Fear Of The Dark ( Not bad, 7/10 )
Dance Of Death ( A few good songs )
Brave New World ( A few good songs , I rate this and Dance Of Death equally )
No Prayer For The Dying ( Boring )
A Matter Of Life And Death ( Long and boring )
X Factor ( Crap )
Virtual XI ( haven't even heard it because X factor was so crap. )
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Hey jimmy,since "you know what your talking about"...why don't "YOU" list your favorite Iron Maiden studio albums from the best album to the most shit album and you have to list if you like the album or not,this has nothing to do with the baby fanboy but I'm just courious what your ratings would be,so are you up for the challange since you seem to know just about everything or are you afraid of what your fanboy will say? I say you will "chicken out".....
Heres mine:
Killers - exellent
Iron Maiden-excellent
The Number Of The Beast-excellent
Piece Of Mind -excellent except for Quest For Fire the shit song
Powerslave-awsome except for The Duellists shit song
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son -good album except for The Evil That Men Do crappy song
A Matter Of Life And Death -fair album except for Different World and Benjamim Bragg shit songs
Brave New World -half "ok" half shit album
Somewhere In Time-poor album
Fear Of The Dark- shit album except for the song Be Quick Or Be Dead that song is awsome on a shit album
No Prayer For The Dying -shit album except for Mother Russia that track is good
Dance Of Death - horrible shitty record I hate it all
Virtual Eleven-total SHIT
The X Factor - total SHIT
Well step up mr.major in the english language.... lets see where you stand on Iron Maiden's discography...
And to the fanboy...we need nothing from you as remember..this thread is for serious Iron Maiden discussions" as you haven't added one aspect of anything serious about the band yet lol!!!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:18:54 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I know exactly what I'm talking about.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Whatever dude,if thats what makes you "feel better' than go for it .Its no skin off my nuts. You obviously don't know what your even talking about so I'll lay this un-needed conversation to rest,you need to learn what your talking about before you question.
jimmyjames wrote:
So you are being anal about the way the sentence was structured? Maybe he didn't say it the "correct" way but I understood perfectly what Brian was getting at and I'm sure you did too. You're just looking for a fight because you don't like Brian.
PS. You are extremely anal about everything to do with metal.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Ha ha,thats not correct jimmy as you and Brian are not understanding what these statements actually mean in a stuctured sentence.I'm not being "anal" about anything jimmy,Brian has contradicted himself and I just called him out on it,no need for you to worry about it,but we will "agree to disagree" thats all.
And I'm not the Maiden fanboy,you should dedicate that Twilight Zone song to Brian...after all,any other song by any other band that did not have a guitar solo in it is considered "not good" but if its an Iron Maiden song than it "is good" and doesn't really need one. HA!
Brian Evans wrote today: "And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good"
Brian Evans wrote: "What every goodmetal track should have is an excellent guitar solo"
Think about it. lol!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:39:23 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
To make up for disappointing you I will play Twilight Zone on my show next week and dedicate to you.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
No jimmy,I'm afraid your wrong on this one pal.He said every track should have one to be "good". Your not understanding the meanings of these sentences,look them up and you will find I'm right. Your confusing the words should and has together,look them up in sentences and depending on how its used they are showing what I'm saying is absolutely correct. We'll have to agree to disagree,no problem but he just basically said that the song Twilight Zone is not a "good" track unless it had an 'excellent" guitar solo in it, the word "good" in the sentence is why I'm right,had he worded it another way then you'd be right....
Its not that hard to understand,I'm disappointed in you jimmy hahahaha!!!!
JD, he didn't say every great song "has" to have a great solo. What you think he was saying and what he said are two different things. You are wrong on this one.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Brian Evans wrote March 1st in you tube videos thread: Bathory formed in 1983. Ha! 1983? HaHaHA!! Thats too funny! Where's the good guitar solo? No way these guys can compete with the masters like Iron Maiden
(lol!) Oh ok,so you laugh at Bathory for not playing a guitar solo but its ok if Iron maiden doesn't play a guitar solo in the song Twilight Zone?
LOL! Fuckin contradictional fanboy! LOL! Gotcha!
Brian_Evans wrote:
"And yeah I knew you would throw the live versions of the JP tunes,thats why I posted what I posted for you to shy away from the Iron Maiden Twilight Zone non-guitar solo track."
I didn't shy away from anything. You're just grasping at straws here and you probably don't even know how to play chess. The bass solo thing I said was just a joke. Although Steve Harris does more in that track than most bass players do in ten. Twlight Zone is a solid metal track. And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good. Read the post five more times and maybe just maybe(fingers crossed) you will finally catch on. You can't stump me man, give it up and go back to your littie Saxon cave of a thread. You're out of your element here.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:21:48 AM)
Edited at: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:26:58 PM
Edited at: Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:02:55 PM
[hellrider 31038] Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:42:18 PM
HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL YEEEEEEEEAAHHHHHHHHHHHH [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:19:49 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Not hard to find here...
jimmyjames wrote:
Still got the tape in a box somewhere but my version is on cd. LPs are definately the best for artwork and aesthetics (is that how you spell it ) for sure. Got a record player but it's not set up. Have a few records, Got Priests Rocka Rolla on LP, the one with the bottle top and the one with the futruristic warrior or what ever he is, also Sad Wings on LP and AC/DC Highway and Back In Black, plus a few others, haven't listened to them for years and years.
guidogodoy wrote:
Ah...I hope you have the LP. That is a great loss, I am afraid. While a cassette, CD or even digital might be better in sound, nothing beats holding a work of art in your hands as in an LP. Still own them, still collect them, still have a workable turntable.
jimmyjames wrote:
It was the first Iron Maiden album I ever owned. A guy at school gave it to me on cassette when I was about 12 or 13.
guidogodoy wrote:
I also applaud you for having a friggin' OPINION! Not a pure fanboy who stands by everything. Hell, I have never once said that I am not a Maiden fan but I can't stand their recent material. Not as bad as Metallica but close. IMO, Priest just leaves them in the dust.
Also, I agree with your assessment of "Somewhere." I love some of those songs and, as you said, the artwork is without compare. 'Blade Runner.' While I am a long distance runner, I can't stand the song, however. Sea of Madness, eh.... not my fav. Wasted years and Caught Somewhere in Time are my big favs. Still, I could stare at that artwork forever.
jimmyjames wrote:
Somewhere In Time is the most under-rated Maiden album. I don't think it has a weak track. Some people might say De Ja Vu, Sea Of Madness or The Loneliness Of The Long Distance Runner are not that great but I reckon they are cool songs. It also has top notch cover artwork and three songs that are Maiden classics, Wasted Years, Stranger In A Strange Land and Heaven Can Wait.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
WOW. I'm impressed...somebody who isn't afraid of listing Iron Maiden albums however I am utterly "shocked" at how you list Somewhere In Time over Killers,Piece Of mind,Iron Maiden and Powerslave....from 1986 when it came out till now I'm still trying to figure out what is good about this album I can't take any of it,not even one song but I must have to say to each his own. At least this is "an opinion" and your not saying "oh gaga everything they do is equally excellent". I agree that AMOLAD is boring,even though I do like most of it it isn't anywhere near,not even near thier first 5 studio albums(1980 - 1984).
Whats also interesting is your first 7 albums listed are all from the 1980's and my first 6 albums are also from the 1980's and the rest is all rated as "aeh..ok" to "shit" from both our opionions. I can't even fathom how many people/fans have said the same thing year after year that the 80's material is the band's best and everything else is "ah...ok I guess"...everybody nowadays just wants to see the band "live" because they can't "get anything special" out of thier albums from 1990 till now,they just can't get anything they want from these less than average albums.
I'd like to see how many people would go see Iron Maiden if they were to only play songs from the shitty albums from 1990 No Prayer For The Dying to now with A Matter Of life And Death"...1990 - 2006 no "Number Of The Beast" song no nothing just those albums from 1990 to 2006,I'm sure they would still pack em' in because of how many fan boys out there but I'd still bet there wouldn't be as many people excited about it.
jimmyjames wrote:
Ok, I wouldn't really call it a challenge though.
Number Of The Beast ( awesome )
Somewhere In Time ( awesome )
Killers ( awesome )
Piece Of Mind ( agree about Quest For Fire and don't really like To Tame A Land either )
Powerslave ( Solid but the good songs aren't as good as the good songs on POM )
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son ( Great all round album, a touch mellodramatic )
Iron Maiden ( This and Seventh Son I rate equally )
Fear Of The Dark ( Not bad, 7/10 )
Dance Of Death ( A few good songs )
Brave New World ( A few good songs , I rate this and Dance Of Death equally )
No Prayer For The Dying ( Boring )
A Matter Of Life And Death ( Long and boring )
X Factor ( Crap )
Virtual XI ( haven't even heard it because X factor was so crap. )
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Hey jimmy,since "you know what your talking about"...why don't "YOU" list your favorite Iron Maiden studio albums from the best album to the most shit album and you have to list if you like the album or not,this has nothing to do with the baby fanboy but I'm just courious what your ratings would be,so are you up for the challange since you seem to know just about everything or are you afraid of what your fanboy will say? I say you will "chicken out".....
Heres mine:
Killers - exellent
Iron Maiden-excellent
The Number Of The Beast-excellent
Piece Of Mind -excellent except for Quest For Fire the shit song
Powerslave-awsome except for The Duellists shit song
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son -good album except for The Evil That Men Do crappy song
A Matter Of Life And Death -fair album except for Different World and Benjamim Bragg shit songs
Brave New World -half "ok" half shit album
Somewhere In Time-poor album
Fear Of The Dark- shit album except for the song Be Quick Or Be Dead that song is awsome on a shit album
No Prayer For The Dying -shit album except for Mother Russia that track is good
Dance Of Death - horrible shitty record I hate it all
Virtual Eleven-total SHIT
The X Factor - total SHIT
Well step up mr.major in the english language.... lets see where you stand on Iron Maiden's discography...
And to the fanboy...we need nothing from you as remember..this thread is for serious Iron Maiden discussions" as you haven't added one aspect of anything serious about the band yet lol!!!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:18:54 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I know exactly what I'm talking about.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Whatever dude,if thats what makes you "feel better' than go for it .Its no skin off my nuts. You obviously don't know what your even talking about so I'll lay this un-needed conversation to rest,you need to learn what your talking about before you question.
jimmyjames wrote:
So you are being anal about the way the sentence was structured? Maybe he didn't say it the "correct" way but I understood perfectly what Brian was getting at and I'm sure you did too. You're just looking for a fight because you don't like Brian.
PS. You are extremely anal about everything to do with metal.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Ha ha,thats not correct jimmy as you and Brian are not understanding what these statements actually mean in a stuctured sentence.I'm not being "anal" about anything jimmy,Brian has contradicted himself and I just called him out on it,no need for you to worry about it,but we will "agree to disagree" thats all.
And I'm not the Maiden fanboy,you should dedicate that Twilight Zone song to Brian...after all,any other song by any other band that did not have a guitar solo in it is considered "not good" but if its an Iron Maiden song than it "is good" and doesn't really need one. HA!
Brian Evans wrote today: "And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good"
Brian Evans wrote: "What every goodmetal track should have is an excellent guitar solo"
Think about it. lol!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:39:23 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
To make up for disappointing you I will play Twilight Zone on my show next week and dedicate to you.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
No jimmy,I'm afraid your wrong on this one pal.He said every track should have one to be "good". Your not understanding the meanings of these sentences,look them up and you will find I'm right. Your confusing the words should and has together,look them up in sentences and depending on how its used they are showing what I'm saying is absolutely correct. We'll have to agree to disagree,no problem but he just basically said that the song Twilight Zone is not a "good" track unless it had an 'excellent" guitar solo in it, the word "good" in the sentence is why I'm right,had he worded it another way then you'd be right....
Its not that hard to understand,I'm disappointed in you jimmy hahahaha!!!!
JD, he didn't say every great song "has" to have a great solo. What you think he was saying and what he said are two different things. You are wrong on this one.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Brian Evans wrote March 1st in you tube videos thread: Bathory formed in 1983. Ha! 1983? HaHaHA!! Thats too funny! Where's the good guitar solo? No way these guys can compete with the masters like Iron Maiden
(lol!) Oh ok,so you laugh at Bathory for not playing a guitar solo but its ok if Iron maiden doesn't play a guitar solo in the song Twilight Zone?
LOL! Fuckin contradictional fanboy! LOL! Gotcha!
Brian_Evans wrote:
"And yeah I knew you would throw the live versions of the JP tunes,thats why I posted what I posted for you to shy away from the Iron Maiden Twilight Zone non-guitar solo track."
I didn't shy away from anything. You're just grasping at straws here and you probably don't even know how to play chess. The bass solo thing I said was just a joke. Although Steve Harris does more in that track than most bass players do in ten. Twlight Zone is a solid metal track. And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good. Read the post five more times and maybe just maybe(fingers crossed) you will finally catch on. You can't stump me man, give it up and go back to your littie Saxon cave of a thread. You're out of your element here.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:21:48 AM)