[Vaillant 3.0] Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:42:20 AM
*walks toward café, sees a sign on the door that says "closed"*
[paorcamp] Friday, August 19, 2011 12:02:41 AM
What's been of this place? Where are the owners??? Hope everything's ok with you Shadow and Ellieke
[ShadowVT] Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:25:44 AM
ShadowVT opens the priest cafe for a new day of fun
Breakfast for today on the menu:
and the beer for today is a good belgium beer :
Starting the day of with a good music :
[hellrider 31038] Monday, January 24, 2011 5:37:36 PM
HEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH GREAT TO HEAR [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:47:43 PM)
ShadowVT wrote:
" ShadowVT arrives back at the priest cafe with his new bike "
" Hi everyone, got some gooooooooooooood news, our little princess is doing fine now in the home treatment period.
the last four five results of the bloodtests have shown she is very stable for the moment so we are now at last on the road to recovery.
another 40 weeks of treatment to go and the another two years of observation and the she should be cured.
in the mean time the bike i had put off due to the illness of our princes has finaly arrived bought it two days ago.
i cant tell you guys how happy i am now i have my bike again to enjoy on the highway and the nice open roads.
ShadowVT buys everyone one of the better belgium beers a DUVEL in english Devil beer moehahahaha CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS
And here is some good music to go along with it
Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:48:57 PM Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:51:47 PM Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:52:15 PM
[Budred] Monday, January 24, 2011 7:45:04 AM
It's great to hear that you're daughter is doing well but a bit of a drag to hear she has so many more treatments.
Hopefully this will soon be a memory and all will be well. Take care man and good luck!
[Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, January 23, 2011 4:27:22 PM
*raises bottle of Coke* To your daughter's speedy recovery and your new motorcycle, Mr. Shadow. CHEERS!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:47:43 PM)
ShadowVT wrote:
" ShadowVT arrives back at the priest cafe with his new bike "
" Hi everyone, got some gooooooooooooood news, our little princess is doing fine now in the home treatment period.
the last four five results of the bloodtests have shown she is very stable for the moment so we are now at last on the road to recovery.
another 40 weeks of treatment to go and the another two years of observation and the she should be cured.
in the mean time the bike i had put off due to the illness of our princes has finaly arrived bought it two days ago.
i cant tell you guys how happy i am now i have my bike again to enjoy on the highway and the nice open roads.
ShadowVT buys everyone one of the better belgium beers a DUVEL in english Devil beer moehahahaha CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS
And here is some good music to go along with it
Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:48:57 PM Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:51:47 PM Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:52:15 PM
" ShadowVT arrives back at the priest cafe with his new bike "
" Hi everyone, got some gooooooooooooood news, our little princess is doing fine now in the home treatment period.
the last four five results of the bloodtests have shown she is very stable for the moment so we are now at last on the road to recovery.
another 40 weeks of treatment to go and the another two years of observation and the she should be cured.
in the mean time the bike i had put off due to the illness of our princes has finaly arrived bought it two days ago.
i cant tell you guys how happy i am now i have my bike again to enjoy on the highway and the nice open roads.
ShadowVT buys everyone one of the better belgium beers a DUVEL in english Devil beer moehahahaha CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS
And here is some good music to go along with it
Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:48:57 PM Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:51:47 PM Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:52:15 PM
[Becks] Sunday, January 23, 2011 3:03:43 PM
Wonderful news Shadow, I can't imagine how relieved you and your family must be knowing she is doing so well! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:47:43 PM)
ShadowVT wrote:
" ShadowVT arrives back at the priest cafe with his new bike "
" Hi everyone, got some gooooooooooooood news, our little princess is doing fine now in the home treatment period.
the last four five results of the bloodtests have shown she is very stable for the moment so we are now at last on the road to recovery.
another 40 weeks of treatment to go and the another two years of observation and the she should be cured.
in the mean time the bike i had put off due to the illness of our princes has finaly arrived bought it two days ago.
i cant tell you guys how happy i am now i have my bike again to enjoy on the highway and the nice open roads.
ShadowVT buys everyone one of the better belgium beers a DUVEL in english Devil beer moehahahaha CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS
And here is some good music to go along with it
Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:48:57 PM Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:51:47 PM Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:52:15 PM
[guidogodoy] Sunday, January 23, 2011 1:57:29 PM
WONDERFUL news, Shadow! Throw me in that list of those raising a Duvel long-distance!
" ShadowVT arrives back at the priest cafe with his new bike "
" Hi everyone, got some gooooooooooooood news, our little princess is doing fine now in the home treatment period.
the last four five results of the bloodtests have shown she is very stable for the moment so we are now at last on the road to recovery.
another 40 weeks of treatment to go and the another two years of observation and the she should be cured.
in the mean time the bike i had put off due to the illness of our princes has finaly arrived bought it two days ago.
i cant tell you guys how happy i am now i have my bike again to enjoy on the highway and the nice open roads.
ShadowVT buys everyone one of the better belgium beers a DUVEL in english Devil beer moehahahaha CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS
And here is some good music to go along with it
Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:48:57 PM Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:51:47 PM Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:52:15 PM
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Sunday, January 23, 2011 1:23:23 PM
That is absolutely the best news any parent could hear!!! I'm so happy for you and your family! Congratulations on the new bike too - ENJOY Heading out to the highway! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:47:43 PM)
ShadowVT wrote:
" ShadowVT arrives back at the priest cafe with his new bike "
" Hi everyone, got some gooooooooooooood news, our little princess is doing fine now in the home treatment period.
the last four five results of the bloodtests have shown she is very stable for the moment so we are now at last on the road to recovery.
another 40 weeks of treatment to go and the another two years of observation and the she should be cured.
in the mean time the bike i had put off due to the illness of our princes has finaly arrived bought it two days ago.
i cant tell you guys how happy i am now i have my bike again to enjoy on the highway and the nice open roads.
ShadowVT buys everyone one of the better belgium beers a DUVEL in english Devil beer moehahahaha CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS
And here is some good music to go along with it
Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:48:57 PM Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:51:47 PM Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:52:15 PM
[spapad] Sunday, January 23, 2011 1:14:33 PM
That is fabulous news all around Shadow. Give my love to Elike and take that precious girl on a bike ride with daddy. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:47:43 PM)
ShadowVT wrote:
" ShadowVT arrives back at the priest cafe with his new bike "
" Hi everyone, got some gooooooooooooood news, our little princess is doing fine now in the home treatment period.
the last four five results of the bloodtests have shown she is very stable for the moment so we are now at last on the road to recovery.
another 40 weeks of treatment to go and the another two years of observation and the she should be cured.
in the mean time the bike i had put off due to the illness of our princes has finaly arrived bought it two days ago.
i cant tell you guys how happy i am now i have my bike again to enjoy on the highway and the nice open roads.
ShadowVT buys everyone one of the better belgium beers a DUVEL in english Devil beer moehahahaha CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS
And here is some good music to go along with it
Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:48:57 PM Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:51:47 PM Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:52:15 PM
[ShadowVT] Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:47:43 PM
" ShadowVT arrives back at the priest cafe with his new bike "
" Hi everyone, got some gooooooooooooood news, our little princess is doing fine now in the home treatment period.
the last four five results of the bloodtests have shown she is very stable for the moment so we are now at last on the road to recovery.
another 40 weeks of treatment to go and the another two years of observation and the she should be cured.
in the mean time the bike i had put off due to the illness of our princes has finaly arrived bought it two days ago.
i cant tell you guys how happy i am now i have my bike again to enjoy on the highway and the nice open roads.
ShadowVT buys everyone one of the better belgium beers a DUVEL in english Devil beer moehahahaha CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS
And here is some good music to go along with it
Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:48:57 PM Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:51:47 PM Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:52:15 PM
[Budred] Saturday, January 22, 2011 11:50:05 PM
[guidogodoy] Saturday, January 22, 2011 4:58:24 PM
No breakfast! CHEESEBURGEE!
No fries, CHIPS!
No Coke, PEPSI!
(and Hulu sux..wait 30 seconds while you have your Pepsi).
[Vaillant 3.0] Friday, January 21, 2011 11:42:22 PM
*Walks tiredly to the bar*
Uggghhh...whatta week. I need a drink...
[Budred] Saturday, January 08, 2011 7:34:47 AM
I want to thank Hellrider and Joe for their comments. They are appreciated. I have to get this out of my head to prevent migraines
so I must make this my last post on this. The funeral is tomorrow. His fiance wants to have a gathering at his place afterwards and
I'm struggling with whether to show or not. It still hasn't been determined if it was accidental or on purpose. Do I shun her for something
that may have been accidental or do I support her. I'll probably go. Please don't respond to this. I must stop!
Thanks for the support!
[joedraper] Friday, January 07, 2011 11:47:36 AM
Bud, this is where you should come when horrible, unthinkable things like this happen. We're sort of a little family here and we're here to help each other through pain and hardship like this. Nothing you did created what happened so don't beat yourself up about that. Rather concentrate on how you can be of help to your friend's family.
I am so sorry that you have to go through this. Sudden death is so horrible. All I can say is you are in my prayers and you can speak to any of your friends here (including me) anytime you need support. This site and the friends I have here have helped me through some horrible situations. Let us be here for you xxx [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Thursday, January 06, 2011 10:50:49 AM)
Budred wrote:
I just received a phone call that may make this even more disturbing for me. It looks like he may have
done this to himself. He fought with his girlfriend almost daily lately. He was overheard saying he would
"fix" her by eating one of her scripts. She's missing a bunch of pills and he's dead. I'll stop posting on this.
This is giving me a migraine and I'm starting to get sick. I got to get this out of my head.
If "ANYONE" out there is going through anything similar to what he was, man just get the f*ck away. Doing what
he "may" have done solves nothing and leaves alot of hurt people in it's wake.
Lastly I'm sorry for these posts, I had nowhere else to go.
I'm probably going to stay away for a few days. Take care all. (And stay the f*ck away from those f*cking pills)
[hellrider 31038] Thursday, January 06, 2011 7:48:41 PM
so sorry to hear .my deepest sympathy [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:54:38 PM)
Budred wrote:
My wife stopped by where I work today. I asked her to call a friend of mine and let him know that we would stop by
after I got home. She told me he had sent us a text thanking us for a christmas card and that I have to read it. I called
her on my way home and asked her what the message said. She sounded a little down and she said he was thanking
us and telling us how awesome we are. I asked her if something was wrong and she said yes. She hesitated so I asked
her "What?" She said John died last night.
It's still fucking me up. He was 32 years old. I just saw him 3 days ago. WTF!!! Edited at: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:02:21 PM
I just received a phone call that may make this even more disturbing for me. It looks like he may have
done this to himself. He fought with his girlfriend almost daily lately. He was overheard saying he would
"fix" her by eating one of her scripts. She's missing a bunch of pills and he's dead. I'll stop posting on this.
This is giving me a migraine and I'm starting to get sick. I got to get this out of my head.
If "ANYONE" out there is going through anything similar to what he was, man just get the f*ck away. Doing what
he "may" have done solves nothing and leaves alot of hurt people in it's wake.
Lastly I'm sorry for these posts, I had nowhere else to go.
I'm probably going to stay away for a few days. Take care all. (And stay the f*ck away from those f*cking pills)
[Head banger] Thursday, January 06, 2011 8:04:03 AM
sorry to hear that bud. best wishes
[Budred] Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:00:10 AM
More like shocking and/ or surreal. Thanks for the comment. It's appreciated. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:52:26 AM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Isn't it strange how Life works like that? It would throw something surprising your way that you least expect to happen.
Sorry to hear about your friend.
Budred wrote:
My wife stopped by where I work today. I asked her to call a friend of mine and let him know that we would stop by
after I got home. She told me he had sent us a text thanking us for a christmas card and that I have to read it. I called
her on my way home and asked her what the message said. She sounded a little down and she said he was thanking
us and telling us how awesome we are. I asked her if something was wrong and she said yes. She hesitated so I asked
her "What?" She said John died last night.
It's still fucking me up. He was 32 years old. I just saw him 3 days ago. WTF!!! Edited at: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:02:21 PM
[Budred] Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:56:24 AM
It's 2:45 am and I can't stay asleep. Maybe this is a little bad kharma for the stupid shit I wished on Jimmy.
I'm really regretting that right now.
Thanks Becks and HRMG. You're words are appreciated.
I wish we would have gotten his text sooner. He didn't even tell me he sent it the last time I saw him. It was a bit
sad reading it. Just an hour before my wife told me I had to, and I was looking forward to it. Now it just makes me cry.
[Vaillant 3.0] Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:52:26 AM
Isn't it strange how Life works like that? It would throw something surprising your way that you least expect to happen.
My wife stopped by where I work today. I asked her to call a friend of mine and let him know that we would stop by
after I got home. She told me he had sent us a text thanking us for a christmas card and that I have to read it. I called
her on my way home and asked her what the message said. She sounded a little down and she said he was thanking
us and telling us how awesome we are. I asked her if something was wrong and she said yes. She hesitated so I asked
her "What?" She said John died last night.
It's still fucking me up. He was 32 years old. I just saw him 3 days ago. WTF!!! Edited at: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:02:21 PM
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Wednesday, January 05, 2011 11:36:17 PM
Oh Budred, I'm so very sorry about your friend. Know that you have friends here thinking of you. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:54:38 PM)
Budred wrote:
My wife stopped by where I work today. I asked her to call a friend of mine and let him know that we would stop by
after I got home. She told me he had sent us a text thanking us for a christmas card and that I have to read it. I called
her on my way home and asked her what the message said. She sounded a little down and she said he was thanking
us and telling us how awesome we are. I asked her if something was wrong and she said yes. She hesitated so I asked
her "What?" She said John died last night.
It's still fucking me up. He was 32 years old. I just saw him 3 days ago. WTF!!! Edited at: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:02:21 PM
[Becks] Wednesday, January 05, 2011 10:06:00 PM
Oh man that is awful Budred, I am so sorry to hear about the death of your friend. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:54:38 PM)
Budred wrote:
My wife stopped by where I work today. I asked her to call a friend of mine and let him know that we would stop by
after I got home. She told me he had sent us a text thanking us for a christmas card and that I have to read it. I called
her on my way home and asked her what the message said. She sounded a little down and she said he was thanking
us and telling us how awesome we are. I asked her if something was wrong and she said yes. She hesitated so I asked
her "What?" She said John died last night.
It's still fucking me up. He was 32 years old. I just saw him 3 days ago. WTF!!! Edited at: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:02:21 PM
[Budred] Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:54:38 PM
My wife stopped by where I work today. I asked her to call a friend of mine and let him know that we would stop by
after I got home. She told me he had sent us a text thanking us for a christmas card and that I have to read it. I called
her on my way home and asked her what the message said. She sounded a little down and she said he was thanking
us and telling us how awesome we are. I asked her if something was wrong and she said yes. She hesitated so I asked
her "What?" She said John died last night.
It's still fucking me up. He was 32 years old. I just saw him 3 days ago. WTF!!! Edited at: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:02:21 PM
[spapad] Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:09:43 PM
Everyone is refered to as a "user" and not a member. Has always been that way. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by METALMANJP from Tuesday, January 04, 2011 3:49:34 PM)
METALMANJP wrote:
Question ? Why do I not show up as a "Member " just a "User" when I log on ?
[METALMANJP] Tuesday, January 04, 2011 3:49:34 PM
Question ? Why do I not show up as a "Member " just a "User" when I log on ?
[METALMANJP] Tuesday, January 04, 2011 3:46:16 PM
It's like a Morgue around here today. What is everybody actually working ? I'm ready for "Happy Hour" and the Buckeyes game.
[guidogodoy] Saturday, December 04, 2010 7:51:58 PM
Great news, Shadow!
Just coming back from a "Run for the cure" marathon and reading this post is just wonderful. Pics below are right before the start of a very cold morning of a very long race but for a very good cause. One in each direction from the start. All the best to you and yours.
Dropped by in these busy times to let you guys and girls know that everything is AOK with our little angle.
the mistake they made with her medication did not do any perminate dammage
and we are back on track with the treatment
talk to yall later
greets
ShadowVT
[joedraper] Friday, December 03, 2010 11:11:20 PM
Totally awesome news to wake up to this morning~ Praise God Shadow! I wish you and Ellie a peaceful joyous Christmas. The Lord knows you need and deserve it xxx [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Friday, December 03, 2010 2:21:45 PM)
ShadowVT wrote:
Hi everybody,
Dropped by in these busy times to let you guys and girls know that everything is AOK with our little angle.
the mistake they made with her medication did not do any perminate dammage
and we are back on track with the treatment
talk to yall later
greets
ShadowVT
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, December 03, 2010 6:49:25 PM
I am so happy for you and your family Shadow!! Best wishes to your little angel and family! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Friday, December 03, 2010 2:21:45 PM)
ShadowVT wrote:
Hi everybody,
Dropped by in these busy times to let you guys and girls know that everything is AOK with our little angle.
the mistake they made with her medication did not do any perminate dammage
and we are back on track with the treatment
Dropped by in these busy times to let you guys and girls know that everything is AOK with our little angle.
the mistake they made with her medication did not do any perminate dammage
and we are back on track with the treatment
talk to yall later
greets
ShadowVT
[spapad] Friday, December 03, 2010 4:50:10 PM
Best news, looks like a blessed holiday season coming up! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Friday, December 03, 2010 2:21:45 PM)
ShadowVT wrote:
Hi everybody,
Dropped by in these busy times to let you guys and girls know that everything is AOK with our little angle.
the mistake they made with her medication did not do any perminate dammage
and we are back on track with the treatment
talk to yall later
greets
ShadowVT
[Vaillant 3.0] Friday, December 03, 2010 2:52:55 PM
That's great news!! Hopefully things will only get better from there for your daughter. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Friday, December 03, 2010 2:21:45 PM)
ShadowVT wrote:
Hi everybody,
Dropped by in these busy times to let you guys and girls know that everything is AOK with our little angle.
the mistake they made with her medication did not do any perminate dammage
and we are back on track with the treatment
talk to yall later
greets
ShadowVT
[ShadowVT] Friday, December 03, 2010 2:21:45 PM
Hi everybody,
Dropped by in these busy times to let you guys and girls know that everything is AOK with our little angle.
the mistake they made with her medication did not do any perminate dammage
and we are back on track with the treatment
talk to yall later
greets
ShadowVT
[ShadowVT] Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:59:23 PM
Hi Budred m8
Yeah my stumake turns with the tought of the mistake they made
and i had to controle myself not to go to the doctor and give them a piece of my mind,
but we still need them to cure our little princess and hopefully without mistakes now
or as they put it without any confusion anymore
i'll keep you guys posted on the further develepment
Freakin' mistake??? Are you kidding me? I don't know you man but I feel so bad reading that.
After the last post I was hoping to hear something positive.
I commend you for not "mistakenly" choking the doctor or pharmacist. Stay strong, things do
work out sometimes. Edited at: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:41:28 AM Edited at: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:45:30 AM
[K2M] Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:30:43 PM
Prayers are for you Shadow and the Family. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:53:20 AM)
ShadowVT wrote:
Hi everyone,
its has been awhile since we have posted here, because the difficult times with our youngest princess is not over yet
we have some bad news
the treatment at home has been carried out now for about ten weeks, she was getting chemo pils at home sort of after treatment after the treatment she had in the hospital with all the baxters and stuff
After these 10 weeks they suddenly noticed that the docter that was treating her gave the wrong perscription dosis, he had given her a dosis of 5 mg of chemo but it should have been 50 mg
the result could be that our daughter has gone into a relapse of the leukimia cancer and that the whole treament will have to be done all over again.
for the moment we are still wainting on the further blood results this coming friday, if those results are negative than monday next week we will then have to do a bone marrow punction to so the extend of the damaga that has happend.
hopefully it wont be that bad, but the blood results of las friday were saying otherwise the max count of 4000 and the results were 6000 so thats troubling us allot.
according to the information we got from the doctors there was some confusion in the medications and she said maybe the pharmecy made the mistake so that is how it always goes
doctors dont make mistakes maybe a bit confusing and the others are responssible for the mistakes
that dont intrest us the only thing thats important for us that our little princess gets better soon and gets cured from the lukemia
we will keep you guys and girls informed about the evolution of this case
greets
ShadowVT
[Head banger] Wednesday, October 20, 2010 6:15:59 AM
Shadow, best wishes, amazing how these things happen, but hope it all works out well. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:53:20 AM)
ShadowVT wrote:
Hi everyone,
its has been awhile since we have posted here, because the difficult times with our youngest princess is not over yet
we have some bad news
the treatment at home has been carried out now for about ten weeks, she was getting chemo pils at home sort of after treatment after the treatment she had in the hospital with all the baxters and stuff
After these 10 weeks they suddenly noticed that the docter that was treating her gave the wrong perscription dosis, he had given her a dosis of 5 mg of chemo but it should have been 50 mg
the result could be that our daughter has gone into a relapse of the leukimia cancer and that the whole treament will have to be done all over again.
for the moment we are still wainting on the further blood results this coming friday, if those results are negative than monday next week we will then have to do a bone marrow punction to so the extend of the damaga that has happend.
hopefully it wont be that bad, but the blood results of las friday were saying otherwise the max count of 4000 and the results were 6000 so thats troubling us allot.
according to the information we got from the doctors there was some confusion in the medications and she said maybe the pharmecy made the mistake so that is how it always goes
doctors dont make mistakes maybe a bit confusing and the others are responssible for the mistakes
that dont intrest us the only thing thats important for us that our little princess gets better soon and gets cured from the lukemia
we will keep you guys and girls informed about the evolution of this case
greets
ShadowVT
[Budred] Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:40:51 AM
Freakin' mistake??? Are you kidding me? I don't know you man but I feel so bad reading that.
After the last post I was hoping to hear something positive.
I commend you for not "mistakenly" choking the doctor or pharmacist. Stay strong, things do
work out sometimes. Edited at: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:41:28 AM Edited at: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:45:30 AM
[HalfordIsGod!!] Tuesday, October 19, 2010 5:09:33 PM
Wow man hope the lil angel gets better soon. You and your family are in our thoughts and prayers bro.
Ah Shadow!
That is a terrible mistake for anyone to have made! I just pray that the results are in her favor and that a miracle has happened. She has been through so much, as have you and Ellie.
You are all in my prayers.
ShadowVT wrote:
Hi everyone,
its has been awhile since we have posted here, because the difficult times with our youngest princess is not over yet
we have some bad news
the treatment at home has been carried out now for about ten weeks, she was getting chemo pils at home sort of after treatment after the treatment she had in the hospital with all the baxters and stuff
After these 10 weeks they suddenly noticed that the docter that was treating her gave the wrong perscription dosis, he had given her a dosis of 5 mg of chemo but it should have been 50 mg
the result could be that our daughter has gone into a relapse of the leukimia cancer and that the whole treament will have to be done all over again.
for the moment we are still wainting on the further blood results this coming friday, if those results are negative than monday next week we will then have to do a bone marrow punction to so the extend of the damaga that has happend.
hopefully it wont be that bad, but the blood results of las friday were saying otherwise the max count of 4000 and the results were 6000 so thats troubling us allot.
according to the information we got from the doctors there was some confusion in the medications and she said maybe the pharmecy made the mistake so that is how it always goes
doctors dont make mistakes maybe a bit confusing and the others are responssible for the mistakes
that dont intrest us the only thing thats important for us that our little princess gets better soon and gets cured from the lukemia
we will keep you guys and girls informed about the evolution of this case
greets
ShadowVT
[ShadowVT] Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:29:40 AM
yeah it is amazing isnt it and then they called it confusing they dare not to call it a mistake because that would be admitting wouldnt it,
anyway we hope that the damage done will be small but for that we have to wait untill next monday, this friday we will now a little bit more
hopefully i can post some good news
Ah, crap. VERY sorry to read that, Shadow. 10 weeks of the wrong Rx strength?! Amazing.
Here's hoping for a speedy recovery. Do keep us posted as I know that we all wish you and your family all the best.
ShadowVT wrote:
Hi everyone,
its has been awhile since we have posted here, because the difficult times with our youngest princess is not over yet
we have some bad news
the treatment at home has been carried out now for about ten weeks, she was getting chemo pils at home sort of after treatment after the treatment she had in the hospital with all the baxters and stuff
After these 10 weeks they suddenly noticed that the docter that was treating her gave the wrong perscription dosis, he had given her a dosis of 5 mg of chemo but it should have been 50 mg
the result could be that our daughter has gone into a relapse of the leukimia cancer and that the whole treament will have to be done all over again.
for the moment we are still wainting on the further blood results this coming friday, if those results are negative than monday next week we will then have to do a bone marrow punction to so the extend of the damaga that has happend.
hopefully it wont be that bad, but the blood results of las friday were saying otherwise the max count of 4000 and the results were 6000 so thats troubling us allot.
according to the information we got from the doctors there was some confusion in the medications and she said maybe the pharmecy made the mistake so that is how it always goes
doctors dont make mistakes maybe a bit confusing and the others are responssible for the mistakes
that dont intrest us the only thing thats important for us that our little princess gets better soon and gets cured from the lukemia
we will keep you guys and girls informed about the evolution of this case
greets
ShadowVT
[joedraper] Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:19:01 AM
Ah Shadow!
That is a terrible mistake for anyone to have made! I just pray that the results are in her favor and that a miracle has happened. She has been through so much, as have you and Ellie.
You are all in my prayers. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:53:20 AM)
ShadowVT wrote:
Hi everyone,
its has been awhile since we have posted here, because the difficult times with our youngest princess is not over yet
we have some bad news
the treatment at home has been carried out now for about ten weeks, she was getting chemo pils at home sort of after treatment after the treatment she had in the hospital with all the baxters and stuff
After these 10 weeks they suddenly noticed that the docter that was treating her gave the wrong perscription dosis, he had given her a dosis of 5 mg of chemo but it should have been 50 mg
the result could be that our daughter has gone into a relapse of the leukimia cancer and that the whole treament will have to be done all over again.
for the moment we are still wainting on the further blood results this coming friday, if those results are negative than monday next week we will then have to do a bone marrow punction to so the extend of the damaga that has happend.
hopefully it wont be that bad, but the blood results of las friday were saying otherwise the max count of 4000 and the results were 6000 so thats troubling us allot.
according to the information we got from the doctors there was some confusion in the medications and she said maybe the pharmecy made the mistake so that is how it always goes
doctors dont make mistakes maybe a bit confusing and the others are responssible for the mistakes
that dont intrest us the only thing thats important for us that our little princess gets better soon and gets cured from the lukemia
we will keep you guys and girls informed about the evolution of this case
greets
ShadowVT
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:16:08 AM
Ah, crap. VERY sorry to read that, Shadow. 10 weeks of the wrong Rx strength?! Amazing.
Here's hoping for a speedy recovery. Do keep us posted as I know that we all wish you and your family all the best. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:53:20 AM)
ShadowVT wrote:
Hi everyone,
its has been awhile since we have posted here, because the difficult times with our youngest princess is not over yet
we have some bad news
the treatment at home has been carried out now for about ten weeks, she was getting chemo pils at home sort of after treatment after the treatment she had in the hospital with all the baxters and stuff
After these 10 weeks they suddenly noticed that the docter that was treating her gave the wrong perscription dosis, he had given her a dosis of 5 mg of chemo but it should have been 50 mg
the result could be that our daughter has gone into a relapse of the leukimia cancer and that the whole treament will have to be done all over again.
for the moment we are still wainting on the further blood results this coming friday, if those results are negative than monday next week we will then have to do a bone marrow punction to so the extend of the damaga that has happend.
hopefully it wont be that bad, but the blood results of las friday were saying otherwise the max count of 4000 and the results were 6000 so thats troubling us allot.
according to the information we got from the doctors there was some confusion in the medications and she said maybe the pharmecy made the mistake so that is how it always goes
doctors dont make mistakes maybe a bit confusing and the others are responssible for the mistakes
that dont intrest us the only thing thats important for us that our little princess gets better soon and gets cured from the lukemia
we will keep you guys and girls informed about the evolution of this case
greets
ShadowVT
[ShadowVT] Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:08:22 AM
I hope so to becks because it has already been a very long road of struggle now and thats the last thing we want that she has to do everything alover again.
Oh that is sad Shadow, I hope that everything can be sorted out so your wee girl is on the road to recovery again.
ShadowVT wrote:
Hi everyone,
its has been awhile since we have posted here, because the difficult times with our youngest princess is not over yet
we have some bad news
the treatment at home has been carried out now for about ten weeks, she was getting chemo pils at home sort of after treatment after the treatment she had in the hospital with all the baxters and stuff
After these 10 weeks they suddenly noticed that the docter that was treating her gave the wrong perscription dosis, he had given her a dosis of 5 mg of chemo but it should have been 50 mg
the result could be that our daughter has gone into a relapse of the leukimia cancer and that the whole treament will have to be done all over again.
for the moment we are still wainting on the further blood results this coming friday, if those results are negative than monday next week we will then have to do a bone marrow punction to so the extend of the damaga that has happend.
hopefully it wont be that bad, but the blood results of las friday were saying otherwise the max count of 4000 and the results were 6000 so thats troubling us allot.
according to the information we got from the doctors there was some confusion in the medications and she said maybe the pharmecy made the mistake so that is how it always goes
doctors dont make mistakes maybe a bit confusing and the others are responssible for the mistakes
that dont intrest us the only thing thats important for us that our little princess gets better soon and gets cured from the lukemia
we will keep you guys and girls informed about the evolution of this case
greets
ShadowVT
[Becks] Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:01:33 AM
Oh that is sad Shadow, I hope that everything can be sorted out so your wee girl is on the road to recovery again. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:53:20 AM)
ShadowVT wrote:
Hi everyone,
its has been awhile since we have posted here, because the difficult times with our youngest princess is not over yet
we have some bad news
the treatment at home has been carried out now for about ten weeks, she was getting chemo pils at home sort of after treatment after the treatment she had in the hospital with all the baxters and stuff
After these 10 weeks they suddenly noticed that the docter that was treating her gave the wrong perscription dosis, he had given her a dosis of 5 mg of chemo but it should have been 50 mg
the result could be that our daughter has gone into a relapse of the leukimia cancer and that the whole treament will have to be done all over again.
for the moment we are still wainting on the further blood results this coming friday, if those results are negative than monday next week we will then have to do a bone marrow punction to so the extend of the damaga that has happend.
hopefully it wont be that bad, but the blood results of las friday were saying otherwise the max count of 4000 and the results were 6000 so thats troubling us allot.
according to the information we got from the doctors there was some confusion in the medications and she said maybe the pharmecy made the mistake so that is how it always goes
doctors dont make mistakes maybe a bit confusing and the others are responssible for the mistakes
that dont intrest us the only thing thats important for us that our little princess gets better soon and gets cured from the lukemia
we will keep you guys and girls informed about the evolution of this case
greets
ShadowVT
[ShadowVT] Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:53:20 AM
Hi everyone,
its has been awhile since we have posted here, because the difficult times with our youngest princess is not over yet
we have some bad news
the treatment at home has been carried out now for about ten weeks, she was getting chemo pils at home sort of after treatment after the treatment she had in the hospital with all the baxters and stuff
After these 10 weeks they suddenly noticed that the docter that was treating her gave the wrong perscription dosis, he had given her a dosis of 5 mg of chemo but it should have been 50 mg
the result could be that our daughter has gone into a relapse of the leukimia cancer and that the whole treament will have to be done all over again.
for the moment we are still wainting on the further blood results this coming friday, if those results are negative than monday next week we will then have to do a bone marrow punction to so the extend of the damaga that has happend.
hopefully it wont be that bad, but the blood results of las friday were saying otherwise the max count of 4000 and the results were 6000 so thats troubling us allot.
according to the information we got from the doctors there was some confusion in the medications and she said maybe the pharmecy made the mistake so that is how it always goes
doctors dont make mistakes maybe a bit confusing and the others are responssible for the mistakes
that dont intrest us the only thing thats important for us that our little princess gets better soon and gets cured from the lukemia
we will keep you guys and girls informed about the evolution of this case
greets
ShadowVT
[ShadowVT] Friday, August 27, 2010 3:57:53 PM
Hi Budred,
The time that we were not on the forum was because we had e very very busy schedule to get everything done here and defenitly not because of your appearence or posting.
i always want people to be straight foward and honnest.
I don't know either of you personally, but after my initial appearance I've thought about you more
than anyone else here. I was quite concerned that since you have not posted in so long that news must be bad.
To read your post made me feel so good. I am (sincerely) happy that things seem to be working out. I hope the
serenity of your vacation brings serenity of the mind. I can't pray but I hope on all things good that things continue
to go well. Take care!
[Budred] Thursday, August 26, 2010 2:07:50 AM
I don't know either of you personally, but after my initial appearance I've thought about you more
than anyone else here. I was quite concerned that since you have not posted in so long that news must be bad.
To read your post made me feel so good. I am (sincerely) happy that things seem to be working out. I hope the
serenity of your vacation brings serenity of the mind. I can't pray but I hope on all things good that things continue
to go well. Take care!
[ShadowVT] Thursday, August 26, 2010 1:41:48 AM
Hello everyone,
thank you so much for all the kind and supporting words, we are indeed doing better now and yes we will be back here more often.
@ deepfreeze wow man looks like your on a roll with the band great job
[Ellieke] Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:28:07 PM
Hey loves,
Thanks for the support, I can't explain how much strength you guys send.
How is everybody here doing? Any good news from your side of the world ??
XXX
[ron h] Wednesday, August 25, 2010 3:26:20 PM
So happy to hear such wonderful news Ellieke!! Big hugs to you and yours!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Ellieke from Wednesday, August 25, 2010 6:43:50 AM)
Ellieke wrote:
Hey everybody,
After to long , here an other post of me.
I hope everybody is doing well and is enjoying the summer as we do.
Vacation is allmost over , one more week and the kids are going back to school. It will give me back time to be online more.
After a very difficult 10 months our little girl Yolien is going back to school for the first time. After 8 months of hometeaching, she's going back to school. She's doing very well and the cancer is under controle. We still have 80 weeks of treatment to go but we are positif about her progress.
I'll be back soon.
C ya !!
[spapad] Wednesday, August 25, 2010 1:03:13 PM
That is fabulous New Ellieke! God Bless! Edited at: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 1:03:33 PM
[Becks] Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:18:09 PM
That is great news Ellieke, I am so pleased for your family that she is doing so well! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Ellieke from Wednesday, August 25, 2010 6:43:50 AM)
Ellieke wrote:
Hey everybody,
After to long , here an other post of me.
I hope everybody is doing well and is enjoying the summer as we do.
Vacation is allmost over , one more week and the kids are going back to school. It will give me back time to be online more.
After a very difficult 10 months our little girl Yolien is going back to school for the first time. After 8 months of hometeaching, she's going back to school. She's doing very well and the cancer is under controle. We still have 80 weeks of treatment to go but we are positif about her progress.
I'll be back soon.
C ya !!
[Head banger] Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:12:33 PM
I hope everybody is doing well and is enjoying the summer as we do.
Vacation is allmost over , one more week and the kids are going back to school. It will give me back time to be online more.
After a very difficult 10 months our little girl Yolien is going back to school for the first time. After 8 months of hometeaching, she's going back to school. She's doing very well and the cancer is under controle. We still have 80 weeks of treatment to go but we are positif about her progress.
I'll be back soon.
C ya !!
[joedraper] Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:04:36 AM
Ellieke! This has to be the best news in the world right now! You, Koen and Yolien have been in my prayers and I am so glad to read today that she is recovering nicely. You have all been through so much and you've weathered the storm! Please give your little princess a heavy metal hug from us and keep getting stronger! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Ellieke from Wednesday, August 25, 2010 6:43:50 AM)
Ellieke wrote:
Hey everybody,
After to long , here an other post of me.
I hope everybody is doing well and is enjoying the summer as we do.
Vacation is allmost over , one more week and the kids are going back to school. It will give me back time to be online more.
After a very difficult 10 months our little girl Yolien is going back to school for the first time. After 8 months of hometeaching, she's going back to school. She's doing very well and the cancer is under controle. We still have 80 weeks of treatment to go but we are positif about her progress.
I'll be back soon.
C ya !!
[Ellieke] Wednesday, August 25, 2010 6:43:50 AM
Hey everybody,
After to long , here an other post of me.
I hope everybody is doing well and is enjoying the summer as we do.
Vacation is allmost over , one more week and the kids are going back to school. It will give me back time to be online more.
After a very difficult 10 months our little girl Yolien is going back to school for the first time. After 8 months of hometeaching, she's going back to school. She's doing very well and the cancer is under controle. We still have 80 weeks of treatment to go but we are positif about her progress.
I'll be back soon.
C ya !!
[Melissa Kaileigh] Wednesday, May 26, 2010 6:50:53 AM
ENJOY..
[blackshadow] Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:21:40 AM
Happy freezing cold Wednesday to all Priest fans. :)
[joedraper] Friday, April 16, 2010 8:54:05 AM
Craig, I totally get wheat you're saying. When you're that close to a situation it is impossible to not be emotional. I have been very emotional since all this broke out and unless you're in the situation (like you were) it is hard to explain to people how you react to it.
I apoligize for making my problem everyone elses problem. I just am so freaked/stressed out and afraid for my family's future that I turned to the board because so many of you genuinly care out here.
Thank you to everyone for all the kind words and support.
I will keep you posted on the progressions. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:38:52 PM)
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I would like to apologize for my shenanigans. I admit that my post was too rude and way over the top.
It was an emotional outburst triggered by Joe's posts. The current situation in South Africa reminds me of days long gone by when I went through a very eerie period in my life. Yes, I still have very vivid memories of the LA riots. The whole thing had a direct effect on me, because it happened in my own neighborhood. I was scared, outraged and hurt to see the kind of destruction that we (as a people) are capable of doing to ourselves. It was disturbing and I will never forget it. It made me realize that in the end we are a bunch of barbarians under a very thin layer of civilization.
Of course that's no excuse. I should've kept my trap shut.
[Becks] Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:39:00 PM
Very noble of you to say this Craig [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:38:52 PM)
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I would like to apologize for my shenanigans. I admit that my post was too rude and way over the top.
It was an emotional outburst triggered by Joe's posts. The current situation in South Africa reminds me of days long gone by when I went through a very eerie period in my life. Yes, I still have very vivid memories of the LA riots. The whole thing had a direct effect on me, because it happened in my own neighborhood. I was scared, outraged and hurt to see the kind of destruction that we (as a people) are capable of doing to ourselves. It was disturbing and I will never forget it. It made me realize that in the end we are a bunch of barbarians under a very thin layer of civilization.
Of course that's no excuse. I should've kept my trap shut.
[Head banger] Thursday, April 15, 2010 6:41:44 PM
Craig. as others have said, good job
[spapad] Thursday, April 15, 2010 5:19:29 PM
Wow Craig. Your honesty and willingness to admit a transgression is very refreshing. I was offended by your post, and I am glad you went further to explain the basis for your expression. Not many would do such a thing. I respect that. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:38:52 PM)
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I would like to apologize for my shenanigans. I admit that my post was too rude and way over the top.
It was an emotional outburst triggered by Joe's posts. The current situation in South Africa reminds me of days long gone by when I went through a very eerie period in my life. Yes, I still have very vivid memories of the LA riots. The whole thing had a direct effect on me, because it happened in my own neighborhood. I was scared, outraged and hurt to see the kind of destruction that we (as a people) are capable of doing to ourselves. It was disturbing and I will never forget it. It made me realize that in the end we are a bunch of barbarians under a very thin layer of civilization.
Of course that's no excuse. I should've kept my trap shut.
[ron h] Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:22:39 PM
Craig, I have to admit that I'm very suprised by your post...in a good way!! I was really shocked at your original post, I wrote what I wrote and left it alone. To now see you come back the way you have in your last post, all I can really say to you now is 'thank you'. As Randy and Pam expressed, what you did took guts and I have nothing but respect for you for that!! Thank you for taking a second look at it. If more of us did that (myself included), we'd all be better for it.
I would like to apologize for my shenanigans. I admit that my post was too rude and way over the top.
It was an emotional outburst triggered by Joe's posts. The current situation in South Africa reminds me of days long gone by when I went through a very eerie period in my life. Yes, I still have very vivid memories of the LA riots. The whole thing had a direct effect on me, because it happened in my own neighborhood. I was scared, outraged and hurt to see the kind of destruction that we (as a people) are capable of doing to ourselves. It was disturbing and I will never forget it. It made me realize that in the end we are a bunch of barbarians under a very thin layer of civilization.
Of course that's no excuse. I should've kept my trap shut.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Thursday, April 15, 2010 3:33:41 PM
Craig, I would just like to say that it takes a very big man to apologize and take responsibility for his actions. I applaud you, I really do. I wish more people were able to admit when they were wrong. I admit that I really didn't like what you said, but now I understand where you were coming from. Yes, it really is scary to see what we as people are capable of. But then again, we are also capable of doing GREAT things as well.
As far as keeping your trap shut, well..... we are all guilty of letting our emotions get the better of us. God knows I wish I'd kept my mouth shut on a lot of things! Hindsight is always 20/20 as they say. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:38:52 PM)
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I would like to apologize for my shenanigans. I admit that my post was too rude and way over the top.
It was an emotional outburst triggered by Joe's posts. The current situation in South Africa reminds me of days long gone by when I went through a very eerie period in my life. Yes, I still have very vivid memories of the LA riots. The whole thing had a direct effect on me, because it happened in my own neighborhood. I was scared, outraged and hurt to see the kind of destruction that we (as a people) are capable of doing to ourselves. It was disturbing and I will never forget it. It made me realize that in the end we are a bunch of barbarians under a very thin layer of civilization.
Of course that's no excuse. I should've kept my trap shut.
[Craig Wagenhoffer] Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:52:54 PM
Thank you, Guido. I appreciate that. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:44:23 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Way to "man up," Craig. We all have our bad times and it really takes a lot to own up to your own. Cheers.
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I would like to apologize for my shenanigans. I admit that my post was too rude and way over the top.
It was an emotional outburst triggered by Joe's posts. The current situation in South Africa reminds me of days long gone by when I went through a very eerie period in my life. Yes, I still have very vivid memories of the LA riots. The whole thing had a direct effect on me, because it happened in my own neighborhood. I was scared, outraged and hurt to see the kind of destruction that we (as a people) are capable of doing to ourselves. It was disturbing and I will never forget it. It made me realize that in the end we are a bunch of barbarians under a very thin layer of civilization.
Of course that's no excuse. I should've kept my trap shut.
[guidogodoy] Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:44:23 PM
Way to "man up," Craig. We all have our bad times and it really takes a lot to own up to your own. Cheers. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:38:52 PM)
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I would like to apologize for my shenanigans. I admit that my post was too rude and way over the top.
It was an emotional outburst triggered by Joe's posts. The current situation in South Africa reminds me of days long gone by when I went through a very eerie period in my life. Yes, I still have very vivid memories of the LA riots. The whole thing had a direct effect on me, because it happened in my own neighborhood. I was scared, outraged and hurt to see the kind of destruction that we (as a people) are capable of doing to ourselves. It was disturbing and I will never forget it. It made me realize that in the end we are a bunch of barbarians under a very thin layer of civilization.
Of course that's no excuse. I should've kept my trap shut.
[Craig Wagenhoffer] Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:38:52 PM
I would like to apologize for my shenanigans. I admit that my post was too rude and way over the top.
It was an emotional outburst triggered by Joe's posts. The current situation in South Africa reminds me of days long gone by when I went through a very eerie period in my life. Yes, I still have very vivid memories of the LA riots. The whole thing had a direct effect on me, because it happened in my own neighborhood. I was scared, outraged and hurt to see the kind of destruction that we (as a people) are capable of doing to ourselves. It was disturbing and I will never forget it. It made me realize that in the end we are a bunch of barbarians under a very thin layer of civilization.
Of course that's no excuse. I should've kept my trap shut.
[spapad] Monday, April 12, 2010 6:37:38 PM
No thank you! Not me at all. lol Ghandi, other great thinkers of peace and wisdom yes, but the problem is "average people" run this place. That is why we are so screwed. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, April 12, 2010 6:24:36 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Are you volunteering to bby sit? SET THE WORLD TO RIGHT, MAN!!
spapad wrote:
The woes of the world will never end bacause sadly, we run it. The human race is fallable and therefore never truly learns. I think we need a baby sitter. lol
guidogodoy wrote:
"El sueño de la razón produce monstruos" = The sleep of reason produces monsters.
"Desastres (aka. Atrocidades) de guerra" - Disasters of war. Both, Francisco de Goya.
jimmyjames wrote:
Good to see the human race has learned a lot isn't it.
guidogodoy wrote:
Currently. At the time, Spain was all by its lonesome. Menaced by the rest of what we now call "Europe," in fact, as hyperinflation hit, then dictatorships, etc.
Bad moves on both parts would be my conclusion. Both now and then. I fear for the future.
jimmyjames wrote:
It is. Except it doesn't have the benefit of being part of Europe. The rest of Africa's a mess too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...sounds very much like Spain c. 1492. Expulsion of the Jews that were the basis of the economy and the Moors who were the traders.
They were once a world power and have been trying to recover ever since.
jimmyjames wrote:
What I hate about the South African situation is that the government is basically advocating the slaughter of the people that keep the countrys infrastructure going. Once the whites in the country leave or are killed things will deteriorate and all that will be left will be millions of aids stricken, uneducated, starving tribal peoples ruled by a "government" which is actually nothing more than a dictatorship propped up by the military. See Rhodesia. Thing is no-one outside can do anything about it. Some of the stuff going on there makes the mind boggle.
[guidogodoy] Monday, April 12, 2010 6:24:36 PM
Are you volunteering to bby sit? SET THE WORLD TO RIGHT, MAN!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Monday, April 12, 2010 6:13:55 PM)
spapad wrote:
The woes of the world will never end bacause sadly, we run it. The human race is fallable and therefore never truly learns. I think we need a baby sitter. lol
guidogodoy wrote:
"El sueño de la razón produce monstruos" = The sleep of reason produces monsters.
"Desastres (aka. Atrocidades) de guerra" - Disasters of war. Both, Francisco de Goya.
jimmyjames wrote:
Good to see the human race has learned a lot isn't it.
guidogodoy wrote:
Currently. At the time, Spain was all by its lonesome. Menaced by the rest of what we now call "Europe," in fact, as hyperinflation hit, then dictatorships, etc.
Bad moves on both parts would be my conclusion. Both now and then. I fear for the future.
jimmyjames wrote:
It is. Except it doesn't have the benefit of being part of Europe. The rest of Africa's a mess too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...sounds very much like Spain c. 1492. Expulsion of the Jews that were the basis of the economy and the Moors who were the traders.
They were once a world power and have been trying to recover ever since.
jimmyjames wrote:
What I hate about the South African situation is that the government is basically advocating the slaughter of the people that keep the countrys infrastructure going. Once the whites in the country leave or are killed things will deteriorate and all that will be left will be millions of aids stricken, uneducated, starving tribal peoples ruled by a "government" which is actually nothing more than a dictatorship propped up by the military. See Rhodesia. Thing is no-one outside can do anything about it. Some of the stuff going on there makes the mind boggle.
[spapad] Monday, April 12, 2010 6:13:55 PM
The woes of the world will never end bacause sadly, we run it. The human race is fallable and therefore never truly learns. I think we need a baby sitter. lol [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, April 12, 2010 6:07:35 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
"El sueño de la razón produce monstruos" = The sleep of reason produces monsters.
"Desastres (aka. Atrocidades) de guerra" - Disasters of war. Both, Francisco de Goya.
jimmyjames wrote:
Good to see the human race has learned a lot isn't it.
guidogodoy wrote:
Currently. At the time, Spain was all by its lonesome. Menaced by the rest of what we now call "Europe," in fact, as hyperinflation hit, then dictatorships, etc.
Bad moves on both parts would be my conclusion. Both now and then. I fear for the future.
jimmyjames wrote:
It is. Except it doesn't have the benefit of being part of Europe. The rest of Africa's a mess too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...sounds very much like Spain c. 1492. Expulsion of the Jews that were the basis of the economy and the Moors who were the traders.
They were once a world power and have been trying to recover ever since.
jimmyjames wrote:
What I hate about the South African situation is that the government is basically advocating the slaughter of the people that keep the countrys infrastructure going. Once the whites in the country leave or are killed things will deteriorate and all that will be left will be millions of aids stricken, uneducated, starving tribal peoples ruled by a "government" which is actually nothing more than a dictatorship propped up by the military. See Rhodesia. Thing is no-one outside can do anything about it. Some of the stuff going on there makes the mind boggle.
[guidogodoy] Monday, April 12, 2010 6:07:35 PM
"El sueño de la razón produce monstruos" = The sleep of reason produces monsters.
"Desastres (aka. Atrocidades) de guerra" - Disasters of war. Both, Francisco de Goya.
Good to see the human race has learned a lot isn't it.
guidogodoy wrote:
Currently. At the time, Spain was all by its lonesome. Menaced by the rest of what we now call "Europe," in fact, as hyperinflation hit, then dictatorships, etc.
Bad moves on both parts would be my conclusion. Both now and then. I fear for the future.
jimmyjames wrote:
It is. Except it doesn't have the benefit of being part of Europe. The rest of Africa's a mess too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...sounds very much like Spain c. 1492. Expulsion of the Jews that were the basis of the economy and the Moors who were the traders.
They were once a world power and have been trying to recover ever since.
jimmyjames wrote:
What I hate about the South African situation is that the government is basically advocating the slaughter of the people that keep the countrys infrastructure going. Once the whites in the country leave or are killed things will deteriorate and all that will be left will be millions of aids stricken, uneducated, starving tribal peoples ruled by a "government" which is actually nothing more than a dictatorship propped up by the military. See Rhodesia. Thing is no-one outside can do anything about it. Some of the stuff going on there makes the mind boggle.
[jimmyjames] Monday, April 12, 2010 5:57:44 PM
Good to see the human race has learned a lot isn't it. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, April 12, 2010 5:51:38 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Currently. At the time, Spain was all by its lonesome. Menaced by the rest of what we now call "Europe," in fact, as hyperinflation hit, then dictatorships, etc.
Bad moves on both parts would be my conclusion. Both now and then. I fear for the future.
jimmyjames wrote:
It is. Except it doesn't have the benefit of being part of Europe. The rest of Africa's a mess too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...sounds very much like Spain c. 1492. Expulsion of the Jews that were the basis of the economy and the Moors who were the traders.
They were once a world power and have been trying to recover ever since.
jimmyjames wrote:
What I hate about the South African situation is that the government is basically advocating the slaughter of the people that keep the countrys infrastructure going. Once the whites in the country leave or are killed things will deteriorate and all that will be left will be millions of aids stricken, uneducated, starving tribal peoples ruled by a "government" which is actually nothing more than a dictatorship propped up by the military. See Rhodesia. Thing is no-one outside can do anything about it. Some of the stuff going on there makes the mind boggle.
[guidogodoy] Monday, April 12, 2010 5:51:38 PM
Currently. At the time, Spain was all by its lonesome. Menaced by the rest of what we now call "Europe," in fact, as hyperinflation hit, then dictatorships, etc.
Bad moves on both parts would be my conclusion. Both now and then. I fear for the future. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Monday, April 12, 2010 5:48:18 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
It is. Except it doesn't have the benefit of being part of Europe. The rest of Africa's a mess too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...sounds very much like Spain c. 1492. Expulsion of the Jews that were the basis of the economy and the Moors who were the traders.
They were once a world power and have been trying to recover ever since.
jimmyjames wrote:
What I hate about the South African situation is that the government is basically advocating the slaughter of the people that keep the countrys infrastructure going. Once the whites in the country leave or are killed things will deteriorate and all that will be left will be millions of aids stricken, uneducated, starving tribal peoples ruled by a "government" which is actually nothing more than a dictatorship propped up by the military. See Rhodesia. Thing is no-one outside can do anything about it. Some of the stuff going on there makes the mind boggle.
[jimmyjames] Monday, April 12, 2010 5:48:18 PM
It is. Except it doesn't have the benefit of being part of Europe. The rest of Africa's a mess too.
Hmmm...sounds very much like Spain c. 1492. Expulsion of the Jews that were the basis of the economy and the Moors who were the traders.
They were once a world power and have been trying to recover ever since.
jimmyjames wrote:
What I hate about the South African situation is that the government is basically advocating the slaughter of the people that keep the countrys infrastructure going. Once the whites in the country leave or are killed things will deteriorate and all that will be left will be millions of aids stricken, uneducated, starving tribal peoples ruled by a "government" which is actually nothing more than a dictatorship propped up by the military. See Rhodesia. Thing is no-one outside can do anything about it. Some of the stuff going on there makes the mind boggle.
[guidogodoy] Monday, April 12, 2010 5:43:43 PM
Hmmm...sounds very much like Spain c. 1492. Expulsion of the Jews that were the basis of the economy and the Moors who were the traders.
They were once a world power and have been trying to recover ever since. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Monday, April 12, 2010 5:21:27 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
What I hate about the South African situation is that the government is basically advocating the slaughter of the people that keep the countrys infrastructure going. Once the whites in the country leave or are killed things will deteriorate and all that will be left will be millions of aids stricken, uneducated, starving tribal peoples ruled by a "government" which is actually nothing more than a dictatorship propped up by the military. See Rhodesia. Thing is no-one outside can do anything about it. Some of the stuff going on there makes the mind boggle.
[jimmyjames] Monday, April 12, 2010 5:21:27 PM
What I hate about the South African situation is that the government is basically advocating the slaughter of the people that keep the countrys infrastructure going. Once the whites in the country leave or are killed things will deteriorate and all that will be left will be millions of aids stricken, uneducated, starving tribal peoples ruled by a "government" which is actually nothing more than a dictatorship propped up by the military. See Rhodesia. Thing is no-one outside can do anything about it. Some of the stuff going on there makes the mind boggle.
Oh no, I wasn't suggesting that's what you meant, I was just putting my opinion forward
Head banger wrote:
I am not saying forget it, I am saying acknowledge, learn from and move on. forgetting would be a huge mistake, but at some point we have to say that we cant fix it, sorry for the actions years ago wont work and move on.
Becks wrote:
Personally, I think that the past should absolutely be acknowledged and not forgotten. But in order to move forward, we can't live in the past. It holds us back from any sort of progress. But I know it's much much more complicated than that.
Head banger wrote:
The thing is, there has been mistreatment in the past, but how do you make up for that today? afirmitive action? reverse racism? give money? what realy needs to happen is everyone to move on. wont happen though. lots use past wrongs as an excuse.
[Becks] Monday, April 12, 2010 12:26:31 PM
Oh no, I wasn't suggesting that's what you meant, I was just putting my opinion forward [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, April 12, 2010 5:27:25 AM)
Head banger wrote:
I am not saying forget it, I am saying acknowledge, learn from and move on. forgetting would be a huge mistake, but at some point we have to say that we cant fix it, sorry for the actions years ago wont work and move on.
Becks wrote:
Personally, I think that the past should absolutely be acknowledged and not forgotten. But in order to move forward, we can't live in the past. It holds us back from any sort of progress. But I know it's much much more complicated than that.
Head banger wrote:
The thing is, there has been mistreatment in the past, but how do you make up for that today? afirmitive action? reverse racism? give money? what realy needs to happen is everyone to move on. wont happen though. lots use past wrongs as an excuse.
[Deep Freeze] Monday, April 12, 2010 6:03:21 AM
I was really trying to come to grips with an appropriate response to all of this. It's very difficult for me. To begin with, I really LIKE Craig. He's a good egg. I am not all that sure he is a "racist". He has an opinion, however misguided it may be.
I am old enough to remember the Watts Riots as well. I lived through the Civil Rights Movement of the 60's and I remember it. I have often said that I am not an "oppressed" black man so it is really beyond me to try to think as one. I have never been denied anything due to my color. I do not know what it is like to live in such a manner. Having acknowledged all of this, I must say that I agree with Guido completely. To paint all people of color with the same brush by suggesting that they are violent by nature is simply ignorant.
The environment in which one lives has much to do with one's behavior. There are good and bad in all peoples. In all countries. I have never been to Africa, Somalia, the Congo or any other "black" country. I have NO idea what life is like there. I do know that people are people and things like slavery were not invented by white people. Man has enslaved his brother since time began. It is sickening and sad and a blemish on ALL humankind. I also know that I, personally, have never owned another person (black or otherwise). Neither did my father, grandfather or great grandfather. I am fairly confident that I had NOTHING to do with oppressing blacks and, therefore, I feel no particular guilt nor debt to them. They are just people like me.
We cannot change what was. We can only make our little part of "now" as good as it can be. We also cannot change what others do. There are scum among us and it will always be so. Murderers, rapists, child molestors, Brian Evans impostors, etc. They are the filth of the world and will be here long after we have gone.
[Head banger] Monday, April 12, 2010 5:31:37 AM
Hate is easy but wrong. to do the right thing is always harder on both sides. thats why its rare. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by joedraper from Monday, April 12, 2010 1:15:26 AM)
joedraper wrote:
The last thing I wanted to do with this discussion was turn it around into hate speach. The reason things are like they are today is very much due to hatred and intolerance of each other. The black people in our country did have a shit deal for many, many years before I was even born. What I am going on about now is how after the democratic voting took place and apartheid was abolished in 1990, things have gotten worse. We live in an overpopulated world with imorral fat cats in leadership positions. Our current president was charged with corruption and rape (found not guilty), has multi wives and has just fathered his 20th child in a poverty stricken country? He (andf Julias) live in the lap of luxury while so many otheres starve.
If these so called leaders would not let gread and their own hedonism go into overdrive, there would be enough food/clothing/housing for so many more. Education is power but they make it impossible for lower class peoole to attend school while they go on shopping trips to Dubai and drive cars that are in the million rands price range (why?)
I am one of the lucky ones I guess, I have a nice home, food and can educate my children. Not many can say the same. I just wish that like Spa said earlier, people would stop focusing on past events and move the hell on. We have the potential to be so much more. Killing just because you don't like someone's skin colour will never be right.. on either side of the spectrum. I'm not hateful toward any race, I just feel very threatened being a white female in this country where we are on the brink of a race war because of ignorant people in power singing songs to starving black people validating the murder and rape of white people.
That is what I was on about!
Please to anyone reading this. It was never about hate!
The last thing I want to be portrayed as is something I haved fought against my entire life here.. a racist.. I am certainly not a racist and I despise racists.
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling:
I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose.
The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme. We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media.
The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care.
This is what a former African leader said in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."
Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader:
"There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM
[Head banger] Monday, April 12, 2010 5:27:25 AM
I am not saying forget it, I am saying acknowledge, learn from and move on. forgetting would be a huge mistake, but at some point we have to say that we cant fix it, sorry for the actions years ago wont work and move on. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Sunday, April 11, 2010 9:13:15 PM)
Becks wrote:
Personally, I think that the past should absolutely be acknowledged and not forgotten. But in order to move forward, we can't live in the past. It holds us back from any sort of progress. But I know it's much much more complicated than that.
Head banger wrote:
The thing is, there has been mistreatment in the past, but how do you make up for that today? afirmitive action? reverse racism? give money? what realy needs to happen is everyone to move on. wont happen though. lots use past wrongs as an excuse.
[Budred] Monday, April 12, 2010 5:02:55 AM
Remember my post about intolerance. This is exactly what I was talking about. I feel so bad about Joe's situation
and I so commend her for her last post. To endure what she has to and still speak out against racism shows what kind of person she is. I have nothing but respect for her. I so wish the world could follow. I can't pray but I hope and
wish nothing but the best for Joe and her family. Show support all, she deserves it. Peace!
I do feel for Joe and her situation and being forced to leave a home that she belongs to is injust. But Mr. Craig's post was not about that. He took this conversation and used it to his own means of hate speech. That is pathetic. There are many reasons for what has happened over the years in America and in other countries, but sadly it all comes down to hate being taught to a generation of beings, and passed along down the line. This is the poison that will kill us all.
jimmyjames wrote:
Not sure what the situations like in the States. But I do think more peoples views would be in line with Craigs if you had been there too. Seeing that kind of thing happen is going to change your perspective for sure. It's not preaching hate, it's an opinion, that's all.
The thing is the LA riots is nothing compared to what's going on in South Africa. The blacks are out of control, it's like sharks at a feeding frenzy. Johannesburg, I think, is the most violent city in the world. When Joe says she fears for her family etc. She literally fears they could be killed at any time. That stuff happens there all the time.
[joedraper] Monday, April 12, 2010 1:15:26 AM
The last thing I wanted to do with this discussion was turn it around into hate speach. The reason things are like they are today is very much due to hatred and intolerance of each other. The black people in our country did have a shit deal for many, many years before I was even born. What I am going on about now is how after the democratic voting took place and apartheid was abolished in 1990, things have gotten worse. We live in an overpopulated world with imorral fat cats in leadership positions. Our current president was charged with corruption and rape (found not guilty), has multi wives and has just fathered his 20th child in a poverty stricken country? He (andf Julias) live in the lap of luxury while so many otheres starve.
If these so called leaders would not let gread and their own hedonism go into overdrive, there would be enough food/clothing/housing for so many more. Education is power but they make it impossible for lower class peoole to attend school while they go on shopping trips to Dubai and drive cars that are in the million rands price range (why?)
I am one of the lucky ones I guess, I have a nice home, food and can educate my children. Not many can say the same. I just wish that like Spa said earlier, people would stop focusing on past events and move the hell on. We have the potential to be so much more. Killing just because you don't like someone's skin colour will never be right.. on either side of the spectrum. I'm not hateful toward any race, I just feel very threatened being a white female in this country where we are on the brink of a race war because of ignorant people in power singing songs to starving black people validating the murder and rape of white people.
That is what I was on about!
Please to anyone reading this. It was never about hate!
The last thing I want to be portrayed as is something I haved fought against my entire life here.. a racist.. I am certainly not a racist and I despise racists.
I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling:
I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose.
The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme. We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media.
The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care.
This is what a former African leader said in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."
Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader:
"There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM
[Becks] Sunday, April 11, 2010 9:13:15 PM
Personally, I think that the past should absolutely be acknowledged and not forgotten. But in order to move forward, we can't live in the past. It holds us back from any sort of progress. But I know it's much much more complicated than that. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Sunday, April 11, 2010 8:03:34 PM)
Head banger wrote:
The thing is, there has been mistreatment in the past, but how do you make up for that today? afirmitive action? reverse racism? give money? what realy needs to happen is everyone to move on. wont happen though. lots use past wrongs as an excuse.
[Head banger] Sunday, April 11, 2010 8:03:34 PM
The thing is, there has been mistreatment in the past, but how do you make up for that today? afirmitive action? reverse racism? give money? what realy needs to happen is everyone to move on. wont happen though. lots use past wrongs as an excuse.
[Becks] Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:39:36 PM
Totally agree Spa. Hate speech is how all sorts of problems start. Look at Mein Kampf. I have zero tolerance for hateful people who spout racist/facist/nasty bullshit. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:56:03 PM)
spapad wrote:
Your post is offensive. Giving hate speech an outlet anywhere in this world should not be tolorated.
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling:
I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose.
The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme. We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media.
The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care.
This is what a former African leader said in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."
Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader:
"There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM
[spapad] Sunday, April 11, 2010 3:55:00 PM
I do feel for Joe and her situation and being forced to leave a home that she belongs to is injust. But Mr. Craig's post was not about that. He took this conversation and used it to his own means of hate speech. That is pathetic. There are many reasons for what has happened over the years in America and in other countries, but sadly it all comes down to hate being taught to a generation of beings, and passed along down the line. This is the poison that will kill us all. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Sunday, April 11, 2010 2:40:22 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Not sure what the situations like in the States. But I do think more peoples views would be in line with Craigs if you had been there too. Seeing that kind of thing happen is going to change your perspective for sure. It's not preaching hate, it's an opinion, that's all.
The thing is the LA riots is nothing compared to what's going on in South Africa. The blacks are out of control, it's like sharks at a feeding frenzy. Johannesburg, I think, is the most violent city in the world. When Joe says she fears for her family etc. She literally fears they could be killed at any time. That stuff happens there all the time.
[guidogodoy] Sunday, April 11, 2010 3:19:22 PM
Dude, if you know your history, there were also MASSIVE race riots in Detroit in 1967. It spread out to other poor cities in Michigan and most of it was, IMO, the direct result of many years of white on black oppression. Like you, I cannot fathom what is going on in another country (especially S. Africa at the moment) but I can speak about what I know.
I also lived through the time Craig described in his little hate speech. Sorry, I don't think it anything BUT a hate speech. Pay close attention to the video. Many went to the aid of the white people being attacked. It was described again and again in the news about how certain "people of color" went out to do the right thing and defend their fellow Man irrespective of their color.
Craig seems to step over a little white problem called SLAVERY. Segregation followed for years and, still, he blames blacks (not just African-Americans as many ARE Africans) as having some sort of "hate gene." Sorry, don't buy it nor do I like such racist remarks and, yes, they couldn't be more racist.
I do agree, as I have said, that there is nothing I could imagine to even begin to understand the problems of South Africa. Of course it is worse than the race riots here. Then again, go back not too many years and the KKK was alive and well doing everything and anything they wanted to the blacks in this country.
Hatred is not an innate trait to ANY culture / race / religion in my humble opinion. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Sunday, April 11, 2010 2:40:22 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Not sure what the situations like in the States. But I do think more peoples views would be in line with Craigs if you had been there too. Seeing that kind of thing happen is going to change your perspective for sure. It's not preaching hate, it's an opinion, that's all.
The thing is the LA riots is nothing compared to what's going on in South Africa. The blacks are out of control, it's like sharks at a feeding frenzy. Johannesburg, I think, is the most violent city in the world. When Joe says she fears for her family etc. She literally fears they could be killed at any time. That stuff happens there all the time.
[jimmyjames] Sunday, April 11, 2010 2:40:22 PM
Not sure what the situations like in the States. But I do think more peoples views would be in line with Craigs if you had been there too. Seeing that kind of thing happen is going to change your perspective for sure. It's not preaching hate, it's an opinion, that's all.
The thing is the LA riots is nothing compared to what's going on in South Africa. The blacks are out of control, it's like sharks at a feeding frenzy. Johannesburg, I think, is the most violent city in the world. When Joe says she fears for her family etc. She literally fears they could be killed at any time. That stuff happens there all the time.
