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I consider Faith and religion the most important things in life - even more important than sex, vegetarianism, and Judas Priest 
It's strange that people so often freak out when one gets there 
I try to express my own opinion honestly and straightforwardly, and I listen to what other people say. If I find that they'r uncomfortable with it, then I change the subject to sex 
In fact I try to be honest and straightforward about everything.
Of course, sometimes, especially on the internet, people get defensive - there's a faint line between self-confidence and arrogance, not necessarily with the sender, but with the receiver - so one also has to know when to stop 
Nicky. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 7:29:25 AM)
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Ah !! Look, you are not treading on thin ice or anything like that. You will find that religion is a very well-discussed subject here and there is no "right" answer, as far as I am concerned. We have had a few Threads on the subject but they either died or were removed by Murray.
I am not a big fan of "god" or any of that, either. Nothing to worry about, man. Speak your mind. As with anything in life, it is HOW you say things more than WHAT you are saying. I try to be respectful of other's opinions and not "mock" them but it is rather difficult when talking about this particular subject. I think you will be fine!
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Man, I have to be careful here or I'll bring people down on me again. I do not want to expose anything.
I have trouble believing in religion. I think it was created to control people in one way or another. I prefer
to have an open mind. Some books try to explain religion or expose it's falsehoods and I sometimes
will read one. I was hoping the books he was referring to were like that.
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Oh yes, I understand. What is it you wish to "expose" about religion, my friend?
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He was talking to someone else and I was just interested in the books he was
referring to. Books exposing religion interest me and I got the impression those were the type
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| [Nicky007] Wednesday, February 24, 2010 3:23:11 AM | |
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The issue of honey is somewhat compicated. Strictly speaking, it ought not be part of a vegan diet, as it goes thru the bee organism, so it's analogous to cow milk. Otoh honey contains a lotta minerals and stuff that are considered healthy to particularly elderly people, so there are many veggies who stick to honey after having given up milk and eggs.
I think one should try out things for oneself and not be dogmatic.
Thanx for the list of books, Headbanger. I'l check'm up ..... 
And for the tip on threads 
Nicky. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:08:32 AM)
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see the social issues thread, the religion thread got deleted I think after it got out of hand.
re the books, I find them entertaining. I dont often read to learn, its a diversion, so I am not looking for a deeper meaning. still can learn a few things or see things in a new way.
I am not against the concepts of either Veganism or Vegetarianism, I just like the taste of Meat too much
didnt know that honey was prohibited in veganism. you learn something every day.
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Headbanger, I'm also interested in hearing about those books. Maybe you could tell us a bit about what they mean to you.
I understand from Mike (Deep Freeze) that there has been a lotta discussion about religion in this forum. I will use the next few days to seek up the stuff in the archives here.
And note that there is a difference between "vegetarianism" and "veganism". Vegetarianism may include milk, eggs and honey, one just avoids all meat (hereunder fish) and products derived from meat. Anyone in tropical and temperate zones can become vegetarian without problems. Young people can make the change from day to day, while middle-aged and older people usually need a transition period.
With veganism, one should be more careful and informed of the nutritional aspects.
If there's some interest, I can expand on these matters.
Nicky. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:12:53 AM)
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ah well. had the realm of fantasy interested you I had a book series for you that actualy explores some religions in a logical way (to me)
veganism sounds like a good idea, but its like a lot of good ideas, better for someone else than me. just couldnt do it.
looking forward to your biography, but write it in english. my danish is well.... non existant.
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Headbanger, I read a lotta stuff, but not fantasy books. Consider that I'm 55 y/o. But I never actually read much fantasy related stuff.
When I was a teen, my bro and several of my friends raved about "The Lord Of The Rings". I never got around to reading it then. A lot later, when I was about 47, I read the first part. By that time I was way beyond being able to dig it. I saw the movie too, and that gripped me even less.
Not that I don't like movies with great visuals. I was totally enraptured by the movie Avatar - apart from the last ½ hour, that is. All that game warfare, it's not my thing.
I of course read a lotta religious and spiritual literature. One of the books that have formed me most is Gandhi's autobiography, "My Experiments With Truth". After several years of warming up, I started reading it properly when I was about 25. I was spellbound ! I had hardly ever heard about vegetarianism before, and here was a guy who had grown up veg in a completely veg environment. As a kid he didnt quite know why he was veg, but by the time he wrote the book, he sure was convinced.
His love and respect for all living beings, combined with his powerful intellect, have made a deep impression on me. Further, he writes again and again that everything he did was in order to meet God face to face. It never happened, but he was continuously striving - and isnt that the best we can do ?
For six years I was vice-chairman and international secretary of the Danish Vegetarian Society. During that time I wrote a series of articles (in Danish) under the headline "Gandhi and vegetarianism". I consider that one of the best things I'v done, and a tribute to one of my heroes.
Guess I'l soon have to write a biography of Priest
Nicky. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, February 22, 2010 8:50:36 AM)
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true, or we might not even be here now.
other than the bible do you read fantasy books?
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Not necessarily, Headbanger. There's the possibility of reincarnation, and the hope and faith in eternal life .....
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| [Nicky007] Wednesday, February 24, 2010 3:14:16 AM | |
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Did anyone say "contradictory" ? 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 8:59:26 AM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Pff!! I actually ENCOURAGE vegetarianism and all that ....MORE MEAT for ME!!!!!!!!!!! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
| | | Nicky007 wrote: | | Headbanger, I'm also interested in hearing about those books. Maybe you could tell us a bit about what they mean to you.
I understand from Mike (Deep Freeze) that there has been a lotta discussion about religion in this forum. I will use the next few days to seek up the stuff in the archives here.
And note that there is a difference between "vegetarianism" and "veganism". Vegetarianism may include milk, eggs and honey, one just avoids all meat (hereunder fish) and products derived from meat. Anyone in tropical and temperate zones can become vegetarian without problems. Young people can make the change from day to day, while middle-aged and older people usually need a transition period.
With veganism, one should be more careful and informed of the nutritional aspects.
If there's some interest, I can expand on these matters.
Nicky. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:12:53 AM)
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ah well. had the realm of fantasy interested you I had a book series for you that actualy explores some religions in a logical way (to me)
veganism sounds like a good idea, but its like a lot of good ideas, better for someone else than me. just couldnt do it.
looking forward to your biography, but write it in english. my danish is well.... non existant.
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Headbanger, I read a lotta stuff, but not fantasy books. Consider that I'm 55 y/o. But I never actually read much fantasy related stuff.
When I was a teen, my bro and several of my friends raved about "The Lord Of The Rings". I never got around to reading it then. A lot later, when I was about 47, I read the first part. By that time I was way beyond being able to dig it. I saw the movie too, and that gripped me even less.
Not that I don't like movies with great visuals. I was totally enraptured by the movie Avatar - apart from the last ½ hour, that is. All that game warfare, it's not my thing.
I of course read a lotta religious and spiritual literature. One of the books that have formed me most is Gandhi's autobiography, "My Experiments With Truth". After several years of warming up, I started reading it properly when I was about 25. I was spellbound ! I had hardly ever heard about vegetarianism before, and here was a guy who had grown up veg in a completely veg environment. As a kid he didnt quite know why he was veg, but by the time he wrote the book, he sure was convinced.
His love and respect for all living beings, combined with his powerful intellect, have made a deep impression on me. Further, he writes again and again that everything he did was in order to meet God face to face. It never happened, but he was continuously striving - and isnt that the best we can do ?
For six years I was vice-chairman and international secretary of the Danish Vegetarian Society. During that time I wrote a series of articles (in Danish) under the headline "Gandhi and vegetarianism". I consider that one of the best things I'v done, and a tribute to one of my heroes.
Guess I'l soon have to write a biography of Priest
Nicky. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, February 22, 2010 8:50:36 AM)
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true, or we might not even be here now.
other than the bible do you read fantasy books?
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Nicky007 wrote: |
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Not necessarily, Headbanger. There's the possibility of reincarnation, and the hope and faith in eternal life .....
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tough call head banger , as i like them i cant crystal ball that you would like them , but have moral dilemas and trials of faith , and does the ends justify the means |
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| [Head banger] Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:04:26 PM | |
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Thats the series, no havent read any terry goodkind, is it worth a read?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by acolyte55 from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:34:39 PM)| | | acolyte55 wrote: | | | headbanger , havent read them in ages is that the series with one of the books telling the story of the guy that accidentaly kills death and has to take his place? and have you read any terry goodkind? |
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| [Deep Freeze] Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:44:26 AM | |
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HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:25:16 AM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | ah, see also typo
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transpose (trans vb): to change the relative place or normal sequence (as in spelling) most often a mistake made with two adjoining letters in a word
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:50:46 AM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | DEPSITE? what mans this depsite?
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DEPSITE? what mans this depsite?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:17:10 AM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | | Good point. Of course, all this "god's creatures" crap really does nothing for me. I eat what I like. I also drive a car DEPSITE the carbon emissions and I do NOT hug trees......HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Bud, I think that in my understanding anything that comes from a living animal is considered forbiden to vegans. This includes cookies, bread etc containing milk, eggs etc. as well as wearing leather or wool.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:08:32 AM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | see the social issues thread, the religion thread got deleted I think after it got out of hand.
re the books, I find them entertaining. I dont often read to learn, its a diversion, so I am not looking for a deeper meaning. still can learn a few things or see things in a new way.
I am not against the concepts of either Veganism or Vegetarianism, I just like the taste of Meat too much
didnt know that honey was prohibited in veganism. you learn something every day.
| | | Nicky007 wrote: | | Headbanger, I'm also interested in hearing about those books. Maybe you could tell us a bit about what they mean to you.
I understand from Mike (Deep Freeze) that there has been a lotta discussion about religion in this forum. I will use the next few days to seek up the stuff in the archives here.
And note that there is a difference between "vegetarianism" and "veganism". Vegetarianism may include milk, eggs and honey, one just avoids all meat (hereunder fish) and products derived from meat. Anyone in tropical and temperate zones can become vegetarian without problems. Young people can make the change from day to day, while middle-aged and older people usually need a transition period.
With veganism, one should be more careful and informed of the nutritional aspects.
If there's some interest, I can expand on these matters.
Nicky. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:12:53 AM)
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ah well. had the realm of fantasy interested you I had a book series for you that actualy explores some religions in a logical way (to me)
veganism sounds like a good idea, but its like a lot of good ideas, better for someone else than me. just couldnt do it.
looking forward to your biography, but write it in english. my danish is well.... non existant.
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Nicky007 wrote: |
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Headbanger, I read a lotta stuff, but not fantasy books. Consider that I'm 55 y/o. But I never actually read much fantasy related stuff.
When I was a teen, my bro and several of my friends raved about "The Lord Of The Rings". I never got around to reading it then. A lot later, when I was about 47, I read the first part. By that time I was way beyond being able to dig it. I saw the movie too, and that gripped me even less.
Not that I don't like movies with great visuals. I was totally enraptured by the movie Avatar - apart from the last ½ hour, that is. All that game warfare, it's not my thing.
I of course read a lotta religious and spiritual literature. One of the books that have formed me most is Gandhi's autobiography, "My Experiments With Truth". After several years of warming up, I started reading it properly when I was about 25. I was spellbound ! I had hardly ever heard about vegetarianism before, and here was a guy who had grown up veg in a completely veg environment. As a kid he didnt quite know why he was veg, but by the time he wrote the book, he sure was convinced.
His love and respect for all living beings, combined with his powerful intellect, have made a deep impression on me. Further, he writes again and again that everything he did was in order to meet God face to face. It never happened, but he was continuously striving - and isnt that the best we can do ?
For six years I was vice-chairman and international secretary of the Danish Vegetarian Society. During that time I wrote a series of articles (in Danish) under the headline "Gandhi and vegetarianism". I consider that one of the best things I'v done, and a tribute to one of my heroes.
Guess I'l soon have to write a biography of Priest
Nicky. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, February 22, 2010 8:50:36 AM)
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true, or we might not even be here now.
other than the bible do you read fantasy books?
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Nicky007 wrote: |
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Not necessarily, Headbanger. There's the possibility of reincarnation, and the hope and faith in eternal life .....
Nicky. |
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| Good point. Of course, all this "god's creatures" crap really does nothing for me. I eat what I like. I also drive a car DEPSITE the carbon emissions and I do NOT hug trees......HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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see the social issues thread, the religion thread got deleted I think after it got out of hand.
re the books, I find them entertaining. I dont often read to learn, its a diversion, so I am not looking for a deeper meaning. still can learn a few things or see things in a new way.
I am not against the concepts of either Veganism or Vegetarianism, I just like the taste of Meat too much
didnt know that honey was prohibited in veganism. you learn something every day.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Nicky007 from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 8:26:35 AM)| | | Nicky007 wrote: | | Headbanger, I'm also interested in hearing about those books. Maybe you could tell us a bit about what they mean to you.
I understand from Mike (Deep Freeze) that there has been a lotta discussion about religion in this forum. I will use the next few days to seek up the stuff in the archives here.
And note that there is a difference between "vegetarianism" and "veganism". Vegetarianism may include milk, eggs and honey, one just avoids all meat (hereunder fish) and products derived from meat. Anyone in tropical and temperate zones can become vegetarian without problems. Young people can make the change from day to day, while middle-aged and older people usually need a transition period.
With veganism, one should be more careful and informed of the nutritional aspects.
If there's some interest, I can expand on these matters.
Nicky. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:12:53 AM)
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Head banger wrote: |
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ah well. had the realm of fantasy interested you I had a book series for you that actualy explores some religions in a logical way (to me)
veganism sounds like a good idea, but its like a lot of good ideas, better for someone else than me. just couldnt do it.
looking forward to your biography, but write it in english. my danish is well.... non existant.
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Nicky007 wrote: |
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Headbanger, I read a lotta stuff, but not fantasy books. Consider that I'm 55 y/o. But I never actually read much fantasy related stuff.
When I was a teen, my bro and several of my friends raved about "The Lord Of The Rings". I never got around to reading it then. A lot later, when I was about 47, I read the first part. By that time I was way beyond being able to dig it. I saw the movie too, and that gripped me even less.
Not that I don't like movies with great visuals. I was totally enraptured by the movie Avatar - apart from the last ½ hour, that is. All that game warfare, it's not my thing.
I of course read a lotta religious and spiritual literature. One of the books that have formed me most is Gandhi's autobiography, "My Experiments With Truth". After several years of warming up, I started reading it properly when I was about 25. I was spellbound ! I had hardly ever heard about vegetarianism before, and here was a guy who had grown up veg in a completely veg environment. As a kid he didnt quite know why he was veg, but by the time he wrote the book, he sure was convinced.
His love and respect for all living beings, combined with his powerful intellect, have made a deep impression on me. Further, he writes again and again that everything he did was in order to meet God face to face. It never happened, but he was continuously striving - and isnt that the best we can do ?
For six years I was vice-chairman and international secretary of the Danish Vegetarian Society. During that time I wrote a series of articles (in Danish) under the headline "Gandhi and vegetarianism". I consider that one of the best things I'v done, and a tribute to one of my heroes.
Guess I'l soon have to write a biography of Priest
Nicky. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, February 22, 2010 8:50:36 AM)
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true, or we might not even be here now.
other than the bible do you read fantasy books?
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Nicky007 wrote: |
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Not necessarily, Headbanger. There's the possibility of reincarnation, and the hope and faith in eternal life .....
Nicky. |
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Pff!! I actually ENCOURAGE vegetarianism and all that ....MORE MEAT for ME!!!!!!!!!!! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Nicky007 from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 8:26:35 AM)| | | Nicky007 wrote: | | Headbanger, I'm also interested in hearing about those books. Maybe you could tell us a bit about what they mean to you.
I understand from Mike (Deep Freeze) that there has been a lotta discussion about religion in this forum. I will use the next few days to seek up the stuff in the archives here.
And note that there is a difference between "vegetarianism" and "veganism". Vegetarianism may include milk, eggs and honey, one just avoids all meat (hereunder fish) and products derived from meat. Anyone in tropical and temperate zones can become vegetarian without problems. Young people can make the change from day to day, while middle-aged and older people usually need a transition period.
With veganism, one should be more careful and informed of the nutritional aspects.
If there's some interest, I can expand on these matters.
Nicky. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:12:53 AM)
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ah well. had the realm of fantasy interested you I had a book series for you that actualy explores some religions in a logical way (to me)
veganism sounds like a good idea, but its like a lot of good ideas, better for someone else than me. just couldnt do it.
looking forward to your biography, but write it in english. my danish is well.... non existant.
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Nicky007 wrote: |
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Headbanger, I read a lotta stuff, but not fantasy books. Consider that I'm 55 y/o. But I never actually read much fantasy related stuff.
When I was a teen, my bro and several of my friends raved about "The Lord Of The Rings". I never got around to reading it then. A lot later, when I was about 47, I read the first part. By that time I was way beyond being able to dig it. I saw the movie too, and that gripped me even less.
Not that I don't like movies with great visuals. I was totally enraptured by the movie Avatar - apart from the last ½ hour, that is. All that game warfare, it's not my thing.
I of course read a lotta religious and spiritual literature. One of the books that have formed me most is Gandhi's autobiography, "My Experiments With Truth". After several years of warming up, I started reading it properly when I was about 25. I was spellbound ! I had hardly ever heard about vegetarianism before, and here was a guy who had grown up veg in a completely veg environment. As a kid he didnt quite know why he was veg, but by the time he wrote the book, he sure was convinced.
His love and respect for all living beings, combined with his powerful intellect, have made a deep impression on me. Further, he writes again and again that everything he did was in order to meet God face to face. It never happened, but he was continuously striving - and isnt that the best we can do ?
For six years I was vice-chairman and international secretary of the Danish Vegetarian Society. During that time I wrote a series of articles (in Danish) under the headline "Gandhi and vegetarianism". I consider that one of the best things I'v done, and a tribute to one of my heroes.
Guess I'l soon have to write a biography of Priest
Nicky. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, February 22, 2010 8:50:36 AM)
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true, or we might not even be here now.
other than the bible do you read fantasy books?
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Nicky007 wrote: |
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Not necessarily, Headbanger. There's the possibility of reincarnation, and the hope and faith in eternal life .....
Nicky. |
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Headbanger, I'm also interested in hearing about those books. Maybe you could tell us a bit about what they mean to you.
I understand from Mike (Deep Freeze) that there has been a lotta discussion about religion in this forum. I will use the next few days to seek up the stuff in the archives here.
And note that there is a difference between "vegetarianism" and "veganism". Vegetarianism may include milk, eggs and honey, one just avoids all meat (hereunder fish) and products derived from meat. Anyone in tropical and temperate zones can become vegetarian without problems. Young people can make the change from day to day, while middle-aged and older people usually need a transition period.
With veganism, one should be more careful and informed of the nutritional aspects.
If there's some interest, I can expand on these matters.
Nicky. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:12:53 AM)
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Head banger wrote: |
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ah well. had the realm of fantasy interested you I had a book series for you that actualy explores some religions in a logical way (to me)
veganism sounds like a good idea, but its like a lot of good ideas, better for someone else than me. just couldnt do it.
looking forward to your biography, but write it in english. my danish is well.... non existant.
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Nicky007 wrote: |
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Headbanger, I read a lotta stuff, but not fantasy books. Consider that I'm 55 y/o. But I never actually read much fantasy related stuff.
When I was a teen, my bro and several of my friends raved about "The Lord Of The Rings". I never got around to reading it then. A lot later, when I was about 47, I read the first part. By that time I was way beyond being able to dig it. I saw the movie too, and that gripped me even less.
Not that I don't like movies with great visuals. I was totally enraptured by the movie Avatar - apart from the last ½ hour, that is. All that game warfare, it's not my thing.
I of course read a lotta religious and spiritual literature. One of the books that have formed me most is Gandhi's autobiography, "My Experiments With Truth". After several years of warming up, I started reading it properly when I was about 25. I was spellbound ! I had hardly ever heard about vegetarianism before, and here was a guy who had grown up veg in a completely veg environment. As a kid he didnt quite know why he was veg, but by the time he wrote the book, he sure was convinced.
His love and respect for all living beings, combined with his powerful intellect, have made a deep impression on me. Further, he writes again and again that everything he did was in order to meet God face to face. It never happened, but he was continuously striving - and isnt that the best we can do ?
For six years I was vice-chairman and international secretary of the Danish Vegetarian Society. During that time I wrote a series of articles (in Danish) under the headline "Gandhi and vegetarianism". I consider that one of the best things I'v done, and a tribute to one of my heroes.
Guess I'l soon have to write a biography of Priest
Nicky. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, February 22, 2010 8:50:36 AM)
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true, or we might not even be here now.
other than the bible do you read fantasy books?
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Not necessarily, Headbanger. There's the possibility of reincarnation, and the hope and faith in eternal life .....
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| [Head banger] Tuesday, February 23, 2010 8:14:36 AM | |
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incarnations of imortality, by Piers anthony. a 7 book series, looking at the incarnations who manage the aspects of life.
from Mars, (war)
Thantos (death)
Chronos (time)
fate
nature
good
evil
its fictional but interesting.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:49:01 AM)| | | Budred wrote: | | Headbanger, I'm interested in those books. What are they?
I'm not 100 percent sold on the idea of there being no god I
just can't buy into any religion. (If) there is a god, I don't think
man has a clue.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | ah well. had the realm of fantasy interested you I had a book series for you that actualy explores some religions in a logical way (to me)
veganism sounds like a good idea, but its like a lot of good ideas, better for someone else than me. just couldnt do it.
looking forward to your biography, but write it in english. my danish is well.... non existant.
| | | Nicky007 wrote: | | Headbanger, I read a lotta stuff, but not fantasy books. Consider that I'm 55 y/o. But I never actually read much fantasy related stuff.
When I was a teen, my bro and several of my friends raved about "The Lord Of The Rings". I never got around to reading it then. A lot later, when I was about 47, I read the first part. By that time I was way beyond being able to dig it. I saw the movie too, and that gripped me even less.
Not that I don't like movies with great visuals. I was totally enraptured by the movie Avatar - apart from the last ½ hour, that is. All that game warfare, it's not my thing.
I of course read a lotta religious and spiritual literature. One of the books that have formed me most is Gandhi's autobiography, "My Experiments With Truth". After several years of warming up, I started reading it properly when I was about 25. I was spellbound ! I had hardly ever heard about vegetarianism before, and here was a guy who had grown up veg in a completely veg environment. As a kid he didnt quite know why he was veg, but by the time he wrote the book, he sure was convinced.
His love and respect for all living beings, combined with his powerful intellect, have made a deep impression on me. Further, he writes again and again that everything he did was in order to meet God face to face. It never happened, but he was continuously striving - and isnt that the best we can do ?
For six years I was vice-chairman and international secretary of the Danish Vegetarian Society. During that time I wrote a series of articles (in Danish) under the headline "Gandhi and vegetarianism". I consider that one of the best things I'v done, and a tribute to one of my heroes.
Guess I'l soon have to write a biography of Priest
Nicky. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, February 22, 2010 8:50:36 AM)
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true, or we might not even be here now.
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Not necessarily, Headbanger. There's the possibility of reincarnation, and the hope and faith in eternal life .....
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Ah !! Look, you are not treading on thin ice or anything like that. You will find that religion is a very well-discussed subject here and there is no "right" answer, as far as I am concerned. We have had a few Threads on the subject but they either died or were removed by Murray.
I am not a big fan of "god" or any of that, either. Nothing to worry about, man. Speak your mind. As with anything in life, it is HOW you say things more than WHAT you are saying. I try to be respectful of other's opinions and not "mock" them but it is rather difficult when talking about this particular subject. I think you will be fine!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 7:22:02 AM)| | | Budred wrote: | | Man, I have to be careful here or I'll bring people down on me again. I do not want to expose anything.
I have trouble believing in religion. I think it was created to control people in one way or another. I prefer
to have an open mind. Some books try to explain religion or expose it's falsehoods and I sometimes
will read one. I was hoping the books he was referring to were like that.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Oh yes, I understand. What is it you wish to "expose" about religion, my friend?
| | | Budred wrote: | | He was talking to someone else and I was just interested in the books he was
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Man, I have to be careful here or I'll bring people down on me again. I do not want to expose anything.
I have trouble believing in religion. I think it was created to control people in one way or another. I prefer
to have an open mind. Some books try to explain religion or expose it's falsehoods and I sometimes
will read one. I was hoping the books he was referring to were like that.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 7:07:44 AM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Oh yes, I understand. What is it you wish to "expose" about religion, my friend?
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| [Deep Freeze] Tuesday, February 23, 2010 7:07:44 AM | |
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Oh yes, I understand. What is it you wish to "expose" about religion, my friend?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 7:03:49 AM)| | | Budred wrote: | | He was talking to someone else and I was just interested in the books he was
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