[jimmyjames] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:39:52 PM
For me it was AC/DC, Iron Maiden, Guns N Roses, Ozzy Osbourne, Metallica, Priest, Motorhead, Sabbath etc. I can't think of any bands that would fit into that definition of Eurotrash except maybe Roxette. Have you heard of them, the y sing that shocking song "The Look". [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:25:24 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
You really want to go back there? Well...Eurotrash is an American term to usually applied to determine really bad techno-rock. Comes from Europe, normally.
HAAAAAAA!!!!! Thanks for clarifying. That could have been interpreted in a number of ways. "Are you on the dole" LOL!!!!!
Becks wrote:
LOL the dole is the unemployment benefit.
guidogodoy wrote:
Got it...now what is the "dole?" LOL??
Becks wrote:
Kapa haka is the style, the language is Maori - don't worry I don't understand what they're saying either LOL!
NO JJ I was not on the dole
guidogodoy wrote:
WOW! I thought both were great. "Kapa hapa" the language or the style?
I watched both vids and, ableit the languange problem, cannot sat that the second one looked just like Chilean national music. A "casique" (or warlord) leading the chant.
Great stuff...again. I really do appreciate you sharing a bit of a place i'd LOVE to visitt (and will).
Becks wrote:
With regards to a national type of music, the closest we probably have hear would be pasific music - hip hop with pasific beats to it. That and kapa haka stuff, which is the music and singing of the indigenous people, the Maori.
guidogodoy wrote:
No harm taken.....do you have a national music, though? Spain = flamenco, for example.
I am really curious. I knew a few people from NZ who were great but didn't have a single Metal band to mention to me. Thus, my only reference. Any national favs or Metal nationals would be most appreciated. I mean, you'd have to go to Portugal to understand fado music. It is beautiful. (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:20:57 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
The music scene in NZ is pathetic. I understood what you were getting at before and I wasn't criticizing, just messing around.
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:31:51 PM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:25:24 PM
You really want to go back there? Well...Eurotrash is an American term to usually applied to determine really bad techno-rock. Comes from Europe, normally.
HAAAAAAA!!!!! Thanks for clarifying. That could have been interpreted in a number of ways. "Are you on the dole" LOL!!!!!
Becks wrote:
LOL the dole is the unemployment benefit.
guidogodoy wrote:
Got it...now what is the "dole?" LOL??
Becks wrote:
Kapa haka is the style, the language is Maori - don't worry I don't understand what they're saying either LOL!
NO JJ I was not on the dole
guidogodoy wrote:
WOW! I thought both were great. "Kapa hapa" the language or the style?
I watched both vids and, ableit the languange problem, cannot sat that the second one looked just like Chilean national music. A "casique" (or warlord) leading the chant.
Great stuff...again. I really do appreciate you sharing a bit of a place i'd LOVE to visitt (and will).
Becks wrote:
With regards to a national type of music, the closest we probably have hear would be pasific music - hip hop with pasific beats to it. That and kapa haka stuff, which is the music and singing of the indigenous people, the Maori.
guidogodoy wrote:
No harm taken.....do you have a national music, though? Spain = flamenco, for example.
I am really curious. I knew a few people from NZ who were great but didn't have a single Metal band to mention to me. Thus, my only reference. Any national favs or Metal nationals would be most appreciated. I mean, you'd have to go to Portugal to understand fado music. It is beautiful. (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:20:57 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
The music scene in NZ is pathetic. I understood what you were getting at before and I wasn't criticizing, just messing around.
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:31:51 PM
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:14:52 PM
What did you mean by eurotrash? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:07:10 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
HAAAAAAA!!!!! Thanks for clarifying. That could have been interpreted in a number of ways. "Are you on the dole" LOL!!!!!
Becks wrote:
LOL the dole is the unemployment benefit.
guidogodoy wrote:
Got it...now what is the "dole?" LOL??
Becks wrote:
Kapa haka is the style, the language is Maori - don't worry I don't understand what they're saying either LOL!
NO JJ I was not on the dole
guidogodoy wrote:
WOW! I thought both were great. "Kapa hapa" the language or the style?
I watched both vids and, ableit the languange problem, cannot sat that the second one looked just like Chilean national music. A "casique" (or warlord) leading the chant.
Great stuff...again. I really do appreciate you sharing a bit of a place i'd LOVE to visitt (and will).
Becks wrote:
With regards to a national type of music, the closest we probably have hear would be pasific music - hip hop with pasific beats to it. That and kapa haka stuff, which is the music and singing of the indigenous people, the Maori.
guidogodoy wrote:
No harm taken.....do you have a national music, though? Spain = flamenco, for example.
I am really curious. I knew a few people from NZ who were great but didn't have a single Metal band to mention to me. Thus, my only reference. Any national favs or Metal nationals would be most appreciated. I mean, you'd have to go to Portugal to understand fado music. It is beautiful. (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:20:57 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
The music scene in NZ is pathetic. I understood what you were getting at before and I wasn't criticizing, just messing around.
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:31:51 PM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:07:10 PM
HAAAAAAA!!!!! Thanks for clarifying. That could have been interpreted in a number of ways. "Are you on the dole" LOL!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:04:02 PM)
Becks wrote:
LOL the dole is the unemployment benefit.
guidogodoy wrote:
Got it...now what is the "dole?" LOL??
Becks wrote:
Kapa haka is the style, the language is Maori - don't worry I don't understand what they're saying either LOL!
NO JJ I was not on the dole
guidogodoy wrote:
WOW! I thought both were great. "Kapa hapa" the language or the style?
I watched both vids and, ableit the languange problem, cannot sat that the second one looked just like Chilean national music. A "casique" (or warlord) leading the chant.
Great stuff...again. I really do appreciate you sharing a bit of a place i'd LOVE to visitt (and will).
Becks wrote:
With regards to a national type of music, the closest we probably have hear would be pasific music - hip hop with pasific beats to it. That and kapa haka stuff, which is the music and singing of the indigenous people, the Maori.
guidogodoy wrote:
No harm taken.....do you have a national music, though? Spain = flamenco, for example.
I am really curious. I knew a few people from NZ who were great but didn't have a single Metal band to mention to me. Thus, my only reference. Any national favs or Metal nationals would be most appreciated. I mean, you'd have to go to Portugal to understand fado music. It is beautiful. (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:20:57 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
The music scene in NZ is pathetic. I understood what you were getting at before and I wasn't criticizing, just messing around.
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:31:51 PM
[Becks] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:04:02 PM
LOL the dole is the unemployment benefit. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:03:02 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Got it...now what is the "dole?" LOL??
Becks wrote:
Kapa haka is the style, the language is Maori - don't worry I don't understand what they're saying either LOL!
NO JJ I was not on the dole
guidogodoy wrote:
WOW! I thought both were great. "Kapa hapa" the language or the style?
I watched both vids and, ableit the languange problem, cannot sat that the second one looked just like Chilean national music. A "casique" (or warlord) leading the chant.
Great stuff...again. I really do appreciate you sharing a bit of a place i'd LOVE to visitt (and will).
Becks wrote:
With regards to a national type of music, the closest we probably have hear would be pasific music - hip hop with pasific beats to it. That and kapa haka stuff, which is the music and singing of the indigenous people, the Maori.
guidogodoy wrote:
No harm taken.....do you have a national music, though? Spain = flamenco, for example.
I am really curious. I knew a few people from NZ who were great but didn't have a single Metal band to mention to me. Thus, my only reference. Any national favs or Metal nationals would be most appreciated. I mean, you'd have to go to Portugal to understand fado music. It is beautiful. (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:20:57 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
The music scene in NZ is pathetic. I understood what you were getting at before and I wasn't criticizing, just messing around.
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:31:51 PM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:03:02 PM
Got it...now what is the "dole?" LOL?? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:59:57 PM)
Becks wrote:
Kapa haka is the style, the language is Maori - don't worry I don't understand what they're saying either LOL!
NO JJ I was not on the dole
guidogodoy wrote:
WOW! I thought both were great. "Kapa hapa" the language or the style?
I watched both vids and, ableit the languange problem, cannot sat that the second one looked just like Chilean national music. A "casique" (or warlord) leading the chant.
Great stuff...again. I really do appreciate you sharing a bit of a place i'd LOVE to visitt (and will).
Becks wrote:
With regards to a national type of music, the closest we probably have hear would be pasific music - hip hop with pasific beats to it. That and kapa haka stuff, which is the music and singing of the indigenous people, the Maori.
guidogodoy wrote:
No harm taken.....do you have a national music, though? Spain = flamenco, for example.
I am really curious. I knew a few people from NZ who were great but didn't have a single Metal band to mention to me. Thus, my only reference. Any national favs or Metal nationals would be most appreciated. I mean, you'd have to go to Portugal to understand fado music. It is beautiful. (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:20:57 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
The music scene in NZ is pathetic. I understood what you were getting at before and I wasn't criticizing, just messing around.
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:31:51 PM
[Becks] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:59:57 PM
Kapa haka is the style, the language is Maori - don't worry I don't understand what they're saying either LOL!
NO JJ I was not on the dole [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:56:43 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
WOW! I thought both were great. "Kapa hapa" the language or the style?
I watched both vids and, ableit the languange problem, cannot sat that the second one looked just like Chilean national music. A "casique" (or warlord) leading the chant.
Great stuff...again. I really do appreciate you sharing a bit of a place i'd LOVE to visitt (and will).
Becks wrote:
With regards to a national type of music, the closest we probably have hear would be pasific music - hip hop with pasific beats to it. That and kapa haka stuff, which is the music and singing of the indigenous people, the Maori.
guidogodoy wrote:
No harm taken.....do you have a national music, though? Spain = flamenco, for example.
I am really curious. I knew a few people from NZ who were great but didn't have a single Metal band to mention to me. Thus, my only reference. Any national favs or Metal nationals would be most appreciated. I mean, you'd have to go to Portugal to understand fado music. It is beautiful. (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:20:57 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
The music scene in NZ is pathetic. I understood what you were getting at before and I wasn't criticizing, just messing around.
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:31:51 PM
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:57:08 PM
LOL yeah, when we were made to do it at school it annoyed me, now that I'm not forced in to it, I don't mind it too much. I remember in 3rd form I got a distinction certificate for Maori studies, not sure how I managed that.
jimmyjames wrote:
God I hate that stuff. Reminds me of school.
Becks wrote:
With regards to a national type of music, the closest we probably have hear would be pasific music - hip hop with pasific beats to it. That and kapa haka stuff, which is the music and singing of the indigenous people, the Maori.
guidogodoy wrote:
No harm taken.....do you have a national music, though? Spain = flamenco, for example.
I am really curious. I knew a few people from NZ who were great but didn't have a single Metal band to mention to me. Thus, my only reference. Any national favs or Metal nationals would be most appreciated. I mean, you'd have to go to Portugal to understand fado music. It is beautiful. (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:20:57 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
The music scene in NZ is pathetic. I understood what you were getting at before and I wasn't criticizing, just messing around.
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:31:51 PM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:56:43 PM
WOW! I thought both were great. "Kapa hapa" the language or the style?
I watched both vids and, ableit the languange problem, cannot sat that the second one looked just like Chilean national music. A "casique" (or warlord) leading the chant.
Great stuff...again. I really do appreciate you sharing a bit of a place i'd LOVE to visitt (and will). [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:39:11 PM)
Becks wrote:
With regards to a national type of music, the closest we probably have hear would be pasific music - hip hop with pasific beats to it. That and kapa haka stuff, which is the music and singing of the indigenous people, the Maori.
guidogodoy wrote:
No harm taken.....do you have a national music, though? Spain = flamenco, for example.
I am really curious. I knew a few people from NZ who were great but didn't have a single Metal band to mention to me. Thus, my only reference. Any national favs or Metal nationals would be most appreciated. I mean, you'd have to go to Portugal to understand fado music. It is beautiful. (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:20:57 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
The music scene in NZ is pathetic. I understood what you were getting at before and I wasn't criticizing, just messing around.
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:31:51 PM
[Becks] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:50:29 PM
LOL yeah, when we were made to do it at school it annoyed me, now that I'm not forced in to it, I don't mind it too much. I remember in 3rd form I got a distinction certificate for Maori studies, not sure how I managed that. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:48:29 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
God I hate that stuff. Reminds me of school.
Becks wrote:
With regards to a national type of music, the closest we probably have hear would be pasific music - hip hop with pasific beats to it. That and kapa haka stuff, which is the music and singing of the indigenous people, the Maori.
guidogodoy wrote:
No harm taken.....do you have a national music, though? Spain = flamenco, for example.
I am really curious. I knew a few people from NZ who were great but didn't have a single Metal band to mention to me. Thus, my only reference. Any national favs or Metal nationals would be most appreciated. I mean, you'd have to go to Portugal to understand fado music. It is beautiful. (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:20:57 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
The music scene in NZ is pathetic. I understood what you were getting at before and I wasn't criticizing, just messing around.
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:31:51 PM
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:48:29 PM
With regards to a national type of music, the closest we probably have hear would be pasific music - hip hop with pasific beats to it. That and kapa haka stuff, which is the music and singing of the indigenous people, the Maori.
guidogodoy wrote:
No harm taken.....do you have a national music, though? Spain = flamenco, for example.
I am really curious. I knew a few people from NZ who were great but didn't have a single Metal band to mention to me. Thus, my only reference. Any national favs or Metal nationals would be most appreciated. I mean, you'd have to go to Portugal to understand fado music. It is beautiful. (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:20:57 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
The music scene in NZ is pathetic. I understood what you were getting at before and I wasn't criticizing, just messing around.
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:31:51 PM
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:45:00 PM
No not really, most of the musical influences come from outside. The metal scene here is pretty healthy considering the size of the country population wise ( 4 million ). We have no decent metal bands of note that are doing much locally or internationally. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:30:25 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
No harm taken.....do you have a national music, though? Spain = flamenco, for example.
I am really curious. I knew a few people from NZ who were great but didn't have a single Metal band to mention to me. Thus, my only reference. Any national favs or Metal nationals would be most appreciated. I mean, you'd have to go to Portugal to understand fado music. It is beautiful. (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:20:57 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
The music scene in NZ is pathetic. I understood what you were getting at before and I wasn't criticizing, just messing around.
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:31:51 PM
[Becks] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:39:11 PM
With regards to a national type of music, the closest we probably have hear would be pasific music - hip hop with pasific beats to it. That and kapa haka stuff, which is the music and singing of the indigenous people, the Maori.
No harm taken.....do you have a national music, though? Spain = flamenco, for example.
I am really curious. I knew a few people from NZ who were great but didn't have a single Metal band to mention to me. Thus, my only reference. Any national favs or Metal nationals would be most appreciated. I mean, you'd have to go to Portugal to understand fado music. It is beautiful. (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:20:57 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
The music scene in NZ is pathetic. I understood what you were getting at before and I wasn't criticizing, just messing around.
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:31:51 PM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:33:39 PM
From what I've seen, there's pockets of metal fans around the place, but not really any NZ metal bands or major metal scene around unfortunately - the best hard rock type band NZ has produced is a band called Shihad (their early stuff anyway, the General Electric is one album which was pretty good). There is a thrashy type band here called 8 Foot Sativa but I think they suck lol. Also some people may consider a band called Blindspott (sp?) metal, but I don't really think so, not much of a fan of them either. We do have what people call bogans here, I've been called one before cos I selected some metal to play on a jukebox at a function LOL! The music you see around the most is hip hop, which I personally can't stand. I always smile when I see kids walking around wearing a Motorhead, Iron Maiden, or any other classic metal band shirt - going a bit against the grain of what is popular here, keeping the heavy metal faith.
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:30:25 PM
No harm taken.....do you have a national music, though? Spain = flamenco, for example.
I am really curious. I knew a few people from NZ who were great but didn't have a single Metal band to mention to me. Thus, my only reference. Any national favs or Metal nationals would be most appreciated. I mean, you'd have to go to Portugal to understand fado music. It is beautiful. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:20:57 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
The music scene in NZ is pathetic. I understood what you were getting at before and I wasn't criticizing, just messing around.
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:31:51 PM
[Becks] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:26:38 PM
From what I've seen, there's pockets of metal fans around the place, but not really any NZ metal bands or major metal scene around unfortunately - the best hard rock type band NZ has produced is a band called Shihad (their early stuff anyway, the General Electric is one album which was pretty good). There is a thrashy type band here called 8 Foot Sativa but I think they suck lol. Also some people may consider a band called Blindspott (sp?) metal, but I don't really think so, not much of a fan of them either. We do have what people call bogans here, I've been called one before cos I selected some metal to play on a jukebox at a function LOL! The music you see around the most is hip hop, which I personally can't stand. I always smile when I see kids walking around wearing a Motorhead, Iron Maiden, or any other classic metal band shirt - going a bit against the grain of what is popular here, keeping the heavy metal faith. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:18:57 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:20:57 PM
The music scene in NZ is pathetic. I understood what you were getting at before and I wasn't criticizing, just messing around. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:18:57 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:18:57 PM
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:58:42 PM)
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
[kickstand1968] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:12:21 PM
Unleashed in the East....so spot on awesome. The ripper, victim of changes live...nothing better!
[Becks] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:58:42 PM
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:49:03 AM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
