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[hellrider 31038] Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:36:24 PM
lol.i had in mind it was a small dog for some reason.lol.hell i am sure he will enjoy it.hell our dogs would go nuts for a grain of rice.lol [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:42:45 PM)
Becks wrote:
Buddy loves treats! LOL! That one is small enough for him to inhale - his preferred method of consuming treats LOL!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
total agree with you Becks hey here is a treat for him from the hell the heeelllll the heeeeelllllll the heeeeellllllrrrrrriiiiiiiddddddeeeeeerrrrrrrr.lol
Becks wrote:
Whoever did it to him deserves nothing less than what they did to him. He's doing awesomely now, he's actually sitting next to me on the couch right now LOL ahh the good life for him
hellrider 31038 wrote:
yeah sounds like he was beaten for sure.wouldn,t you love to catch the person in the act.good to hear he is doing very well now.
Becks wrote:
That's sad Hellrider. I have heard about puppy mills, they sound disgusting! When we adopted our dog, he was about 5 months old, and if you went to tell him off for misbehaving he'd cower and piss himself without you even touching him so we think he was beaten. He's happy as larry now though, an incredibly affectionate and happy dog.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
i fell actactly the same as you Becks and YES with a passion.we just rescued a dog like a month ago from this sos recue place that recues dogs from quebec and brings them to people wanting to adopt them in ontario.shes the one that had the lamp shade.lol.anyways her nipples are really swollen her front claws were worn right down(she must have been at a puppy mill)i was told she was 2 but vet thinks she is about 5 because i had to get a couple of her teeth removed and she does not know how to go up or down stairs and everytime you go near her she runs away. the reason for the cruelity with our new dog in my opinion was a sorce of income for the pervious owner
Becks wrote:
One thing I hate with a passion is cruelty to animals - I'm not ashamed to say that that video made me cry. I look at my pets and wonder how on earth could anyone be cruel to an animal. Mankind really makes me wonder!!!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
hey Becks yeah i know i heard that to.
Becks wrote:
I read that somewhere Hellrider. Stupid thing is, they don't even make that much money off of the seal hunt! WTF it the bloody point? Other than, there is none!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
well the good news to all is that europe has banned all seal product.BUT canada is fighting the ban.they say they are humain..well that is just a total crock of shit.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH THIS.this has easily got to be the most cruelest and most inhumain thing thing i have ever seen .hopefully it will come to an end real soon.sure does not make me feel very proud about being a canadian.
[Becks] Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:42:45 PM
Buddy loves treats! LOL! That one is small enough for him to inhale - his preferred method of consuming treats LOL! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:33:25 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
total agree with you Becks hey here is a treat for him from the hell the heeelllll the heeeeelllllll the heeeeellllllrrrrrriiiiiiiddddddeeeeeerrrrrrrr.lol
Becks wrote:
Whoever did it to him deserves nothing less than what they did to him. He's doing awesomely now, he's actually sitting next to me on the couch right now LOL ahh the good life for him
hellrider 31038 wrote:
yeah sounds like he was beaten for sure.wouldn,t you love to catch the person in the act.good to hear he is doing very well now.
Becks wrote:
That's sad Hellrider. I have heard about puppy mills, they sound disgusting! When we adopted our dog, he was about 5 months old, and if you went to tell him off for misbehaving he'd cower and piss himself without you even touching him so we think he was beaten. He's happy as larry now though, an incredibly affectionate and happy dog.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
i fell actactly the same as you Becks and YES with a passion.we just rescued a dog like a month ago from this sos recue place that recues dogs from quebec and brings them to people wanting to adopt them in ontario.shes the one that had the lamp shade.lol.anyways her nipples are really swollen her front claws were worn right down(she must have been at a puppy mill)i was told she was 2 but vet thinks she is about 5 because i had to get a couple of her teeth removed and she does not know how to go up or down stairs and everytime you go near her she runs away. the reason for the cruelity with our new dog in my opinion was a sorce of income for the pervious owner
Becks wrote:
One thing I hate with a passion is cruelty to animals - I'm not ashamed to say that that video made me cry. I look at my pets and wonder how on earth could anyone be cruel to an animal. Mankind really makes me wonder!!!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
hey Becks yeah i know i heard that to.
Becks wrote:
I read that somewhere Hellrider. Stupid thing is, they don't even make that much money off of the seal hunt! WTF it the bloody point? Other than, there is none!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
well the good news to all is that europe has banned all seal product.BUT canada is fighting the ban.they say they are humain..well that is just a total crock of shit.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH THIS.this has easily got to be the most cruelest and most inhumain thing thing i have ever seen .hopefully it will come to an end real soon.sure does not make me feel very proud about being a canadian.
[hellrider 31038] Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:33:25 PM
total agree with you Becks hey here is a treat for him from the hell the heeelllll the heeeeelllllll the heeeeellllllrrrrrriiiiiiiddddddeeeeeerrrrrrrr.lol [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:18:37 PM)
Becks wrote:
Whoever did it to him deserves nothing less than what they did to him. He's doing awesomely now, he's actually sitting next to me on the couch right now LOL ahh the good life for him
hellrider 31038 wrote:
yeah sounds like he was beaten for sure.wouldn,t you love to catch the person in the act.good to hear he is doing very well now.
Becks wrote:
That's sad Hellrider. I have heard about puppy mills, they sound disgusting! When we adopted our dog, he was about 5 months old, and if you went to tell him off for misbehaving he'd cower and piss himself without you even touching him so we think he was beaten. He's happy as larry now though, an incredibly affectionate and happy dog.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
i fell actactly the same as you Becks and YES with a passion.we just rescued a dog like a month ago from this sos recue place that recues dogs from quebec and brings them to people wanting to adopt them in ontario.shes the one that had the lamp shade.lol.anyways her nipples are really swollen her front claws were worn right down(she must have been at a puppy mill)i was told she was 2 but vet thinks she is about 5 because i had to get a couple of her teeth removed and she does not know how to go up or down stairs and everytime you go near her she runs away. the reason for the cruelity with our new dog in my opinion was a sorce of income for the pervious owner
Becks wrote:
One thing I hate with a passion is cruelty to animals - I'm not ashamed to say that that video made me cry. I look at my pets and wonder how on earth could anyone be cruel to an animal. Mankind really makes me wonder!!!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
hey Becks yeah i know i heard that to.
Becks wrote:
I read that somewhere Hellrider. Stupid thing is, they don't even make that much money off of the seal hunt! WTF it the bloody point? Other than, there is none!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
well the good news to all is that europe has banned all seal product.BUT canada is fighting the ban.they say they are humain..well that is just a total crock of shit.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH THIS.this has easily got to be the most cruelest and most inhumain thing thing i have ever seen .hopefully it will come to an end real soon.sure does not make me feel very proud about being a canadian.
[Becks] Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:18:37 PM
Whoever did it to him deserves nothing less than what they did to him. He's doing awesomely now, he's actually sitting next to me on the couch right now LOL ahh the good life for him [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:15:22 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
yeah sounds like he was beaten for sure.wouldn,t you love to catch the person in the act.good to hear he is doing very well now.
Becks wrote:
That's sad Hellrider. I have heard about puppy mills, they sound disgusting! When we adopted our dog, he was about 5 months old, and if you went to tell him off for misbehaving he'd cower and piss himself without you even touching him so we think he was beaten. He's happy as larry now though, an incredibly affectionate and happy dog.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
i fell actactly the same as you Becks and YES with a passion.we just rescued a dog like a month ago from this sos recue place that recues dogs from quebec and brings them to people wanting to adopt them in ontario.shes the one that had the lamp shade.lol.anyways her nipples are really swollen her front claws were worn right down(she must have been at a puppy mill)i was told she was 2 but vet thinks she is about 5 because i had to get a couple of her teeth removed and she does not know how to go up or down stairs and everytime you go near her she runs away. the reason for the cruelity with our new dog in my opinion was a sorce of income for the pervious owner
Becks wrote:
One thing I hate with a passion is cruelty to animals - I'm not ashamed to say that that video made me cry. I look at my pets and wonder how on earth could anyone be cruel to an animal. Mankind really makes me wonder!!!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
hey Becks yeah i know i heard that to.
Becks wrote:
I read that somewhere Hellrider. Stupid thing is, they don't even make that much money off of the seal hunt! WTF it the bloody point? Other than, there is none!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
well the good news to all is that europe has banned all seal product.BUT canada is fighting the ban.they say they are humain..well that is just a total crock of shit.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH THIS.this has easily got to be the most cruelest and most inhumain thing thing i have ever seen .hopefully it will come to an end real soon.sure does not make me feel very proud about being a canadian.
[hellrider 31038] Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:15:22 PM
yeah sounds like he was beaten for sure.wouldn,t you love to catch the person in the act.good to hear he is doing very well now. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:09:08 PM)
Becks wrote:
That's sad Hellrider. I have heard about puppy mills, they sound disgusting! When we adopted our dog, he was about 5 months old, and if you went to tell him off for misbehaving he'd cower and piss himself without you even touching him so we think he was beaten. He's happy as larry now though, an incredibly affectionate and happy dog.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
i fell actactly the same as you Becks and YES with a passion.we just rescued a dog like a month ago from this sos recue place that recues dogs from quebec and brings them to people wanting to adopt them in ontario.shes the one that had the lamp shade.lol.anyways her nipples are really swollen her front claws were worn right down(she must have been at a puppy mill)i was told she was 2 but vet thinks she is about 5 because i had to get a couple of her teeth removed and she does not know how to go up or down stairs and everytime you go near her she runs away. the reason for the cruelity with our new dog in my opinion was a sorce of income for the pervious owner
Becks wrote:
One thing I hate with a passion is cruelty to animals - I'm not ashamed to say that that video made me cry. I look at my pets and wonder how on earth could anyone be cruel to an animal. Mankind really makes me wonder!!!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
hey Becks yeah i know i heard that to.
Becks wrote:
I read that somewhere Hellrider. Stupid thing is, they don't even make that much money off of the seal hunt! WTF it the bloody point? Other than, there is none!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
well the good news to all is that europe has banned all seal product.BUT canada is fighting the ban.they say they are humain..well that is just a total crock of shit.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH THIS.this has easily got to be the most cruelest and most inhumain thing thing i have ever seen .hopefully it will come to an end real soon.sure does not make me feel very proud about being a canadian.
[Becks] Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:09:08 PM
That's sad Hellrider. I have heard about puppy mills, they sound disgusting! When we adopted our dog, he was about 5 months old, and if you went to tell him off for misbehaving he'd cower and piss himself without you even touching him so we think he was beaten. He's happy as larry now though, an incredibly affectionate and happy dog. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:05:23 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
i fell actactly the same as you Becks and YES with a passion.we just rescued a dog like a month ago from this sos recue place that recues dogs from quebec and brings them to people wanting to adopt them in ontario.shes the one that had the lamp shade.lol.anyways her nipples are really swollen her front claws were worn right down(she must have been at a puppy mill)i was told she was 2 but vet thinks she is about 5 because i had to get a couple of her teeth removed and she does not know how to go up or down stairs and everytime you go near her she runs away. the reason for the cruelity with our new dog in my opinion was a sorce of income for the pervious owner
Becks wrote:
One thing I hate with a passion is cruelty to animals - I'm not ashamed to say that that video made me cry. I look at my pets and wonder how on earth could anyone be cruel to an animal. Mankind really makes me wonder!!!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
hey Becks yeah i know i heard that to.
Becks wrote:
I read that somewhere Hellrider. Stupid thing is, they don't even make that much money off of the seal hunt! WTF it the bloody point? Other than, there is none!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
well the good news to all is that europe has banned all seal product.BUT canada is fighting the ban.they say they are humain..well that is just a total crock of shit.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH THIS.this has easily got to be the most cruelest and most inhumain thing thing i have ever seen .hopefully it will come to an end real soon.sure does not make me feel very proud about being a canadian.
[hellrider 31038] Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:05:23 PM
i fell actactly the same as you Becks and YES with a passion.we just rescued a dog like a month ago from this sos recue place that recues dogs from quebec and brings them to people wanting to adopt them in ontario.shes the one that had the lamp shade.lol.anyways her nipples are really swollen her front claws were worn right down(she must have been at a puppy mill)i was told she was 2 but vet thinks she is about 5 because i had to get a couple of her teeth removed and she does not know how to go up or down stairs and everytime you go near her she runs away. the reason for the cruelity with our new dog in my opinion was a sorce of income for the pervious owner [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Monday, October 05, 2009 11:10:56 PM)
Becks wrote:
One thing I hate with a passion is cruelty to animals - I'm not ashamed to say that that video made me cry. I look at my pets and wonder how on earth could anyone be cruel to an animal. Mankind really makes me wonder!!!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
hey Becks yeah i know i heard that to.
Becks wrote:
I read that somewhere Hellrider. Stupid thing is, they don't even make that much money off of the seal hunt! WTF it the bloody point? Other than, there is none!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
well the good news to all is that europe has banned all seal product.BUT canada is fighting the ban.they say they are humain..well that is just a total crock of shit.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH THIS.this has easily got to be the most cruelest and most inhumain thing thing i have ever seen .hopefully it will come to an end real soon.sure does not make me feel very proud about being a canadian.
[The Voice] Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:02:18 PM
NOONE IS ABLE TO PISS ME OFF!
DO I NOT HAVE ABILITY IN GETTING ANGRY?
WELL! SEEMS LIKE I'M POOR IN MY CHAMBER WHERE I CAN BE PISSED!
AND THAT PISSES MY REAL OFF!
[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:08:04 AM
Ummm...have you checked on Fred in the last half hour...? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:57:57 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Bastard...keep your gluttonous carnivorous eyes off of such delicate creatures....Eat Nina. Bwwwwhaaaahaaaa!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Yeah, hot dogs! HAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!! Nah, dogs are too stringy! I prefer BIRDS!! Especially cockatiels.....HAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAA!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I bet you eat dogs.
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!! The Princess and I watched that show, HRMG! It was entertaining enough but, unfortunately, I do not think it will have a great impact in the long run. Same with the clubbing of seals thing. Been going on for a LONG time and I just do not see it coming to an end. The problem is not a matter of what WE perceive as right and wrong so much as it is a cultural difference. The Japanese hunt whales because, in their culture, it is very lucrative and very much in demand. It is a part of their way of life. You cannot slap an international ban on it and expect them to honor it. You would have to change an ancient culture with thousands of years of tradition and belief and bans don't do that. Same with the eskimos. It is part of their culture to kill animals. Sometimes VERY cruely.
When we see things like whaling or seal hunting, we are shocked. It is not part of what we are yet, when we eat a steak, we see nothing wrong with it. That cow was alive once. Granted, we may have a more "humane" form of execution but it is killing nonetheless. I, for one, don't really care HOW it got there, only that it is there and this mentality is no different than a Japanese consumer looking for a whale steak, if there is such a thing?
I guess we will never be able to accept certain things in this world and I am not asking ANYONE here to condone bashing a baby seal in the head but I am merely pointing out that it is not perceived in the same we perceive it. I could not do it but, then again, I do not eat sushi either.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Yes Joe, I agree. People need to be made aware of the cruel things going on in the world so that we can put a stop to it once and for all! We watch "Whale Wars" a TV show about the volunteers trying to stop the Japanese whalers. It's just so sad when you see the whale on their hook. They are "doing research" my ass! If you were doing research, wouldn't you be weighing the animal, taking measurements, etc.? Bunch of LIARS because they know what they are doing is WRONG, but they are trying to justify it. Really pisses me off. But at least they aren't getting nearly as many as they used to be. At least that is a start.
joedraper wrote:
I also couldn't bring myself to watching it HRMG... On the other hand I'm glad that it was posted because it brings awareness to the fact that such evil barbarianism goes on in the world and with enough outcry, enough voices we may in future just have enough power to do away with this cruelty.
I know the Japanese whalers are under so much threat now that they are not getting anywhere near the 'quota' that they are legally allowed to kill. It's just terrible and cruel. I have no idea how someone can gain pleasure from wearing fur, let alone fur that was ruthelessly ripped off a tortured baby.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
I couldn't even watch this video because I saw a video about the clubbing of baby seals when I was little and I cried for days. I can still see the blood on the ice and the mommy seals barking and crying in my head. This kind of thing makes me sick to my stomach. I just don't know how anyone could do something like that! It's one thing to kill because you need to eat and feed your family and use every part of the animal, but this is not that.
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:57:57 AM
Bastard...keep your gluttonous carnivorous eyes off of such delicate creatures....Eat Nina. Bwwwwhaaaahaaaa! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:42:33 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Yeah, hot dogs! HAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!! Nah, dogs are too stringy! I prefer BIRDS!! Especially cockatiels.....HAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAA!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I bet you eat dogs.
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!! The Princess and I watched that show, HRMG! It was entertaining enough but, unfortunately, I do not think it will have a great impact in the long run. Same with the clubbing of seals thing. Been going on for a LONG time and I just do not see it coming to an end. The problem is not a matter of what WE perceive as right and wrong so much as it is a cultural difference. The Japanese hunt whales because, in their culture, it is very lucrative and very much in demand. It is a part of their way of life. You cannot slap an international ban on it and expect them to honor it. You would have to change an ancient culture with thousands of years of tradition and belief and bans don't do that. Same with the eskimos. It is part of their culture to kill animals. Sometimes VERY cruely.
When we see things like whaling or seal hunting, we are shocked. It is not part of what we are yet, when we eat a steak, we see nothing wrong with it. That cow was alive once. Granted, we may have a more "humane" form of execution but it is killing nonetheless. I, for one, don't really care HOW it got there, only that it is there and this mentality is no different than a Japanese consumer looking for a whale steak, if there is such a thing?
I guess we will never be able to accept certain things in this world and I am not asking ANYONE here to condone bashing a baby seal in the head but I am merely pointing out that it is not perceived in the same we perceive it. I could not do it but, then again, I do not eat sushi either.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Yes Joe, I agree. People need to be made aware of the cruel things going on in the world so that we can put a stop to it once and for all! We watch "Whale Wars" a TV show about the volunteers trying to stop the Japanese whalers. It's just so sad when you see the whale on their hook. They are "doing research" my ass! If you were doing research, wouldn't you be weighing the animal, taking measurements, etc.? Bunch of LIARS because they know what they are doing is WRONG, but they are trying to justify it. Really pisses me off. But at least they aren't getting nearly as many as they used to be. At least that is a start.
joedraper wrote:
I also couldn't bring myself to watching it HRMG... On the other hand I'm glad that it was posted because it brings awareness to the fact that such evil barbarianism goes on in the world and with enough outcry, enough voices we may in future just have enough power to do away with this cruelty.
I know the Japanese whalers are under so much threat now that they are not getting anywhere near the 'quota' that they are legally allowed to kill. It's just terrible and cruel. I have no idea how someone can gain pleasure from wearing fur, let alone fur that was ruthelessly ripped off a tortured baby.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
I couldn't even watch this video because I saw a video about the clubbing of baby seals when I was little and I cried for days. I can still see the blood on the ice and the mommy seals barking and crying in my head. This kind of thing makes me sick to my stomach. I just don't know how anyone could do something like that! It's one thing to kill because you need to eat and feed your family and use every part of the animal, but this is not that.
[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:42:33 AM
Yeah, hot dogs! HAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!! Nah, dogs are too stringy! I prefer BIRDS!! Especially cockatiels.....HAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAA!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:07:12 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
I bet you eat dogs.
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!! The Princess and I watched that show, HRMG! It was entertaining enough but, unfortunately, I do not think it will have a great impact in the long run. Same with the clubbing of seals thing. Been going on for a LONG time and I just do not see it coming to an end. The problem is not a matter of what WE perceive as right and wrong so much as it is a cultural difference. The Japanese hunt whales because, in their culture, it is very lucrative and very much in demand. It is a part of their way of life. You cannot slap an international ban on it and expect them to honor it. You would have to change an ancient culture with thousands of years of tradition and belief and bans don't do that. Same with the eskimos. It is part of their culture to kill animals. Sometimes VERY cruely.
When we see things like whaling or seal hunting, we are shocked. It is not part of what we are yet, when we eat a steak, we see nothing wrong with it. That cow was alive once. Granted, we may have a more "humane" form of execution but it is killing nonetheless. I, for one, don't really care HOW it got there, only that it is there and this mentality is no different than a Japanese consumer looking for a whale steak, if there is such a thing?
I guess we will never be able to accept certain things in this world and I am not asking ANYONE here to condone bashing a baby seal in the head but I am merely pointing out that it is not perceived in the same we perceive it. I could not do it but, then again, I do not eat sushi either.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Yes Joe, I agree. People need to be made aware of the cruel things going on in the world so that we can put a stop to it once and for all! We watch "Whale Wars" a TV show about the volunteers trying to stop the Japanese whalers. It's just so sad when you see the whale on their hook. They are "doing research" my ass! If you were doing research, wouldn't you be weighing the animal, taking measurements, etc.? Bunch of LIARS because they know what they are doing is WRONG, but they are trying to justify it. Really pisses me off. But at least they aren't getting nearly as many as they used to be. At least that is a start.
joedraper wrote:
I also couldn't bring myself to watching it HRMG... On the other hand I'm glad that it was posted because it brings awareness to the fact that such evil barbarianism goes on in the world and with enough outcry, enough voices we may in future just have enough power to do away with this cruelty.
I know the Japanese whalers are under so much threat now that they are not getting anywhere near the 'quota' that they are legally allowed to kill. It's just terrible and cruel. I have no idea how someone can gain pleasure from wearing fur, let alone fur that was ruthelessly ripped off a tortured baby.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
I couldn't even watch this video because I saw a video about the clubbing of baby seals when I was little and I cried for days. I can still see the blood on the ice and the mommy seals barking and crying in my head. This kind of thing makes me sick to my stomach. I just don't know how anyone could do something like that! It's one thing to kill because you need to eat and feed your family and use every part of the animal, but this is not that.
HA!!!!!!!!!! The Princess and I watched that show, HRMG! It was entertaining enough but, unfortunately, I do not think it will have a great impact in the long run. Same with the clubbing of seals thing. Been going on for a LONG time and I just do not see it coming to an end. The problem is not a matter of what WE perceive as right and wrong so much as it is a cultural difference. The Japanese hunt whales because, in their culture, it is very lucrative and very much in demand. It is a part of their way of life. You cannot slap an international ban on it and expect them to honor it. You would have to change an ancient culture with thousands of years of tradition and belief and bans don't do that. Same with the eskimos. It is part of their culture to kill animals. Sometimes VERY cruely.
When we see things like whaling or seal hunting, we are shocked. It is not part of what we are yet, when we eat a steak, we see nothing wrong with it. That cow was alive once. Granted, we may have a more "humane" form of execution but it is killing nonetheless. I, for one, don't really care HOW it got there, only that it is there and this mentality is no different than a Japanese consumer looking for a whale steak, if there is such a thing?
I guess we will never be able to accept certain things in this world and I am not asking ANYONE here to condone bashing a baby seal in the head but I am merely pointing out that it is not perceived in the same we perceive it. I could not do it but, then again, I do not eat sushi either.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Yes Joe, I agree. People need to be made aware of the cruel things going on in the world so that we can put a stop to it once and for all! We watch "Whale Wars" a TV show about the volunteers trying to stop the Japanese whalers. It's just so sad when you see the whale on their hook. They are "doing research" my ass! If you were doing research, wouldn't you be weighing the animal, taking measurements, etc.? Bunch of LIARS because they know what they are doing is WRONG, but they are trying to justify it. Really pisses me off. But at least they aren't getting nearly as many as they used to be. At least that is a start.
joedraper wrote:
I also couldn't bring myself to watching it HRMG... On the other hand I'm glad that it was posted because it brings awareness to the fact that such evil barbarianism goes on in the world and with enough outcry, enough voices we may in future just have enough power to do away with this cruelty.
I know the Japanese whalers are under so much threat now that they are not getting anywhere near the 'quota' that they are legally allowed to kill. It's just terrible and cruel. I have no idea how someone can gain pleasure from wearing fur, let alone fur that was ruthelessly ripped off a tortured baby.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
I couldn't even watch this video because I saw a video about the clubbing of baby seals when I was little and I cried for days. I can still see the blood on the ice and the mommy seals barking and crying in my head. This kind of thing makes me sick to my stomach. I just don't know how anyone could do something like that! It's one thing to kill because you need to eat and feed your family and use every part of the animal, but this is not that.
[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, October 06, 2009 7:36:37 AM
HA!!!!!!!!!! The Princess and I watched that show, HRMG! It was entertaining enough but, unfortunately, I do not think it will have a great impact in the long run. Same with the clubbing of seals thing. Been going on for a LONG time and I just do not see it coming to an end. The problem is not a matter of what WE perceive as right and wrong so much as it is a cultural difference. The Japanese hunt whales because, in their culture, it is very lucrative and very much in demand. It is a part of their way of life. You cannot slap an international ban on it and expect them to honor it. You would have to change an ancient culture with thousands of years of tradition and belief and bans don't do that. Same with the eskimos. It is part of their culture to kill animals. Sometimes VERY cruely.
When we see things like whaling or seal hunting, we are shocked. It is not part of what we are yet, when we eat a steak, we see nothing wrong with it. That cow was alive once. Granted, we may have a more "humane" form of execution but it is killing nonetheless. I, for one, don't really care HOW it got there, only that it is there and this mentality is no different than a Japanese consumer looking for a whale steak, if there is such a thing?
I guess we will never be able to accept certain things in this world and I am not asking ANYONE here to condone bashing a baby seal in the head but I am merely pointing out that it is not perceived in the same we perceive it. I could not do it but, then again, I do not eat sushi either. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Tuesday, October 06, 2009 7:03:05 AM)
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Yes Joe, I agree. People need to be made aware of the cruel things going on in the world so that we can put a stop to it once and for all! We watch "Whale Wars" a TV show about the volunteers trying to stop the Japanese whalers. It's just so sad when you see the whale on their hook. They are "doing research" my ass! If you were doing research, wouldn't you be weighing the animal, taking measurements, etc.? Bunch of LIARS because they know what they are doing is WRONG, but they are trying to justify it. Really pisses me off. But at least they aren't getting nearly as many as they used to be. At least that is a start.
joedraper wrote:
I also couldn't bring myself to watching it HRMG... On the other hand I'm glad that it was posted because it brings awareness to the fact that such evil barbarianism goes on in the world and with enough outcry, enough voices we may in future just have enough power to do away with this cruelty.
I know the Japanese whalers are under so much threat now that they are not getting anywhere near the 'quota' that they are legally allowed to kill. It's just terrible and cruel. I have no idea how someone can gain pleasure from wearing fur, let alone fur that was ruthelessly ripped off a tortured baby.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
I couldn't even watch this video because I saw a video about the clubbing of baby seals when I was little and I cried for days. I can still see the blood on the ice and the mommy seals barking and crying in my head. This kind of thing makes me sick to my stomach. I just don't know how anyone could do something like that! It's one thing to kill because you need to eat and feed your family and use every part of the animal, but this is not that.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Tuesday, October 06, 2009 7:03:05 AM
Yes Joe, I agree. People need to be made aware of the cruel things going on in the world so that we can put a stop to it once and for all! We watch "Whale Wars" a TV show about the volunteers trying to stop the Japanese whalers. It's just so sad when you see the whale on their hook. They are "doing research" my ass! If you were doing research, wouldn't you be weighing the animal, taking measurements, etc.? Bunch of LIARS because they know what they are doing is WRONG, but they are trying to justify it. Really pisses me off. But at least they aren't getting nearly as many as they used to be. At least that is a start. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by joedraper from Tuesday, October 06, 2009 2:34:09 AM)
joedraper wrote:
I also couldn't bring myself to watching it HRMG... On the other hand I'm glad that it was posted because it brings awareness to the fact that such evil barbarianism goes on in the world and with enough outcry, enough voices we may in future just have enough power to do away with this cruelty.
I know the Japanese whalers are under so much threat now that they are not getting anywhere near the 'quota' that they are legally allowed to kill. It's just terrible and cruel. I have no idea how someone can gain pleasure from wearing fur, let alone fur that was ruthelessly ripped off a tortured baby.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
I couldn't even watch this video because I saw a video about the clubbing of baby seals when I was little and I cried for days. I can still see the blood on the ice and the mommy seals barking and crying in my head. This kind of thing makes me sick to my stomach. I just don't know how anyone could do something like that! It's one thing to kill because you need to eat and feed your family and use every part of the animal, but this is not that.
[Necroticist] Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:15:23 AM
i'm just pissed off in general...thought i'd shate it with y'all..lol
[joedraper] Tuesday, October 06, 2009 2:34:09 AM
I also couldn't bring myself to watching it HRMG... On the other hand I'm glad that it was posted because it brings awareness to the fact that such evil barbarianism goes on in the world and with enough outcry, enough voices we may in future just have enough power to do away with this cruelty.
I know the Japanese whalers are under so much threat now that they are not getting anywhere near the 'quota' that they are legally allowed to kill. It's just terrible and cruel. I have no idea how someone can gain pleasure from wearing fur, let alone fur that was ruthelessly ripped off a tortured baby. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Monday, October 05, 2009 11:38:38 PM)
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
I couldn't even watch this video because I saw a video about the clubbing of baby seals when I was little and I cried for days. I can still see the blood on the ice and the mommy seals barking and crying in my head. This kind of thing makes me sick to my stomach. I just don't know how anyone could do something like that! It's one thing to kill because you need to eat and feed your family and use every part of the animal, but this is not that.
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, October 06, 2009 1:14:06 AM
Sounds like browser issues to me, MG. Lack of Java updates explains a great number of the problems I see every day. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ~ MG_Metalgoddess~ from Monday, October 05, 2009 9:10:43 PM)
~ MG_Metalgoddess~ wrote:
SO what the HELL is wrong with web site??? Not the people here,, the web site,,, ??? half the times the buttons are missing on page to respond to comments ect..???? Is wierd?? does Murray Know??
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Monday, October 05, 2009 11:38:38 PM
I couldn't even watch this video because I saw a video about the clubbing of baby seals when I was little and I cried for days. I can still see the blood on the ice and the mommy seals barking and crying in my head. This kind of thing makes me sick to my stomach. I just don't know how anyone could do something like that! It's one thing to kill because you need to eat and feed your family and use every part of the animal, but this is not that.
[Becks] Monday, October 05, 2009 11:10:56 PM
One thing I hate with a passion is cruelty to animals - I'm not ashamed to say that that video made me cry. I look at my pets and wonder how on earth could anyone be cruel to an animal. Mankind really makes me wonder!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Monday, October 05, 2009 11:04:24 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
hey Becks yeah i know i heard that to.
Becks wrote:
I read that somewhere Hellrider. Stupid thing is, they don't even make that much money off of the seal hunt! WTF it the bloody point? Other than, there is none!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
well the good news to all is that europe has banned all seal product.BUT canada is fighting the ban.they say they are humain..well that is just a total crock of shit.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH THIS.this has easily got to be the most cruelest and most inhumain thing thing i have ever seen .hopefully it will come to an end real soon.sure does not make me feel very proud about being a canadian.
[hellrider 31038] Monday, October 05, 2009 11:04:24 PM
hey Becks yeah i know i heard that to. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Monday, October 05, 2009 10:59:55 PM)
Becks wrote:
I read that somewhere Hellrider. Stupid thing is, they don't even make that much money off of the seal hunt! WTF it the bloody point? Other than, there is none!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
well the good news to all is that europe has banned all seal product.BUT canada is fighting the ban.they say they are humain..well that is just a total crock of shit.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH THIS.this has easily got to be the most cruelest and most inhumain thing thing i have ever seen .hopefully it will come to an end real soon.sure does not make me feel very proud about being a canadian.
total agree with you Becks hey here is a treat for him from the hell the heeelllll the heeeeelllllll the heeeeellllllrrrrrriiiiiiiddddddeeeeeerrrrrrrr.lol
so we think he was beaten. He's happy as larry now though, an incredibly affectionate and happy dog.