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[mesniu II] Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:49:17 PM

russia did it's most massive manuevers recently, apparently a show of force to NATO.

[Palmer Griffiths] Saturday, September 13, 2008 12:12:44 AM

I recently saw a news interview with John Mc Cain's running mate for Vice President Sarah Palin and she was talking about the U.S. going to war with Russia.Scarey Stuff !
Edited at: Saturday, September 13, 2008 12:13:19 AM

[_strat_] Saturday, August 30, 2008 1:08:31 AM

Ok, I will stay on my toes.

And yes, I kinda wrote the first thing that came to my mind. It is a good rule though. But sticking to it doesnt do much good, though.

[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by TIMBONI from Saturday, August 30, 2008 1:00:40 AM)

TIMBONI wrote:

Good. Stay on your toes. Remember I'm an old fart. I had the unenviable experience of living through the 70's and 80's in New England. Got to see all those fighters screaming over my house to meet the Bear bombers coming over the pole. As for the Golden Rule bit, don't worry, you just haven't thought it through far enough yet.

stratlover wrote:

I am absolutely sure, and Im also starting to get a bit suspicious of you.

TIMBONI wrote:

Are you sure ? At least about the whipping part.

stratlover wrote:

I hope that the golden rule doesnt apply to masochists. I sure wouldnt like someone to whip me, or pull out my fingenails or something like that, hoping that I will do the same to him.

TIMBONI wrote:

My theory is that Democracy gives you the freedom to do whatever you want to do . . . until it interferes with someone else's right to do whatever they want to do. Think about it. Do you have the right to kill ? NO, because it interferes with the other person's right to live. Do you have the right to steal ? NO, because it interferes with someone else's right to work hard and earn those things. Etc, etc, etc. It's as simple as "The Golden Rule", do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Jpz #1 fan wrote:

yes i agree the US has a very questionable history....

democracy its funny term isnt it...some say its the right to speak out others say its the right to basic needs...

lets not forget if the Soviets had not been on the allied side we would all be under Nazi domination right now...we surely must be greatful for that

		Palmer Griffiths wrote:

		I Just wanted to add a little more on this subject. What I'm about to say is not aimed at the entire American People.I have nothing against Americans, but those few who are on top of the Ivory Tower Like the Government and Big Business etc. Altough I find what's going on in that region of the World alarming the U.S. is claiming Russia has attacked and Invaded a soveriegn Country ..But what about the United States? They've done that sort of thing countless times in Latin American Countries and other nations around the Globe.They had Fulgencio Batista in power in Cuba who was corrupt as Well the Sha Of Iran who was put in power and Henry Kissinger was quoted as saying " He's a Bastard,But he's our Bastard." They've installed Governments in Countries as long as it suited there domestic interests.Now they're coming to the aid of the Georgians? I didn't exactly see them do that when there was a Genocide going on in a place like Rwanda.I guess there was no Oil Reserves or other natural resources for Big Business to exploit. Just want to close off with what The Late George Carlin stated in his bit called The Owners Of this Country " You're not Free ! You're Owned.The owners of this Country they own you.They own all the important Land they control and own the Major Media outlets and they have The Senate,Judges,Congress all in there back pocket.This Country was bought and paid for a long time ago.They got you by the Balls! It's a Big Exclusive Club and Guess what !..You and Me..We're not in it." This can be said for my country to and others as well.

[TIMBONI] Saturday, August 30, 2008 1:00:40 AM

stratlover wrote:

I am absolutely sure, and Im also starting to get a bit suspicious of you.

TIMBONI wrote:

Are you sure ? At least about the whipping part.

stratlover wrote:

I hope that the golden rule doesnt apply to masochists. I sure wouldnt like someone to whip me, or pull out my fingenails or something like that, hoping that I will do the same to him.

TIMBONI wrote:

Jpz #1 fan wrote:

		Palmer Griffiths wrote:

		I Just wanted to add a little more on this subject. What I'm about to say is not aimed at the entire American People.I have nothing against Americans, but those few who are on top of the Ivory Tower Like the Government and Big Business etc. Altough I find what's going on in that region of the World alarming the U.S. is claiming Russia has attacked and Invaded a soveriegn Country ..But what about the United States? They've done that sort of thing countless times in Latin American Countries and other nations around the Globe.They had Fulgencio Batista in power in Cuba who was corrupt as Well the Sha Of Iran who was put in power and Henry Kissinger was quoted as saying " He's a Bastard,But he's our Bastard." They've installed Governments in Countries as long as it suited there domestic interests.Now they're coming to the aid of the Georgians? I didn't exactly see them do that when there was a Genocide going on in a place like Rwanda.I guess there was no Oil Reserves or other natural resources for Big Business to exploit. Just want to close off with what The Late George Carlin stated in his bit called The Owners Of this Country " You're not Free ! You're Owned.The owners of this Country they own you.They own all the important Land they control and own the Major Media outlets and they have The Senate,Judges,Congress all in there back pocket.This Country was bought and paid for a long time ago.They got you by the Balls! It's a Big Exclusive Club and Guess what !..You and Me..We're not in it." This can be said for my country to and others as well.

[_strat_] Saturday, August 30, 2008 12:54:23 AM

I am absolutely sure, and Im also starting to get a bit suspicious of you.

[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by TIMBONI from Saturday, August 30, 2008 12:51:44 AM)

TIMBONI wrote:

Are you sure ? At least about the whipping part.

stratlover wrote:

I hope that the golden rule doesnt apply to masochists. I sure wouldnt like someone to whip me, or pull out my fingenails or something like that, hoping that I will do the same to him.

TIMBONI wrote:

Jpz #1 fan wrote:

		Palmer Griffiths wrote:

		I Just wanted to add a little more on this subject. What I'm about to say is not aimed at the entire American People.I have nothing against Americans, but those few who are on top of the Ivory Tower Like the Government and Big Business etc. Altough I find what's going on in that region of the World alarming the U.S. is claiming Russia has attacked and Invaded a soveriegn Country ..But what about the United States? They've done that sort of thing countless times in Latin American Countries and other nations around the Globe.They had Fulgencio Batista in power in Cuba who was corrupt as Well the Sha Of Iran who was put in power and Henry Kissinger was quoted as saying " He's a Bastard,But he's our Bastard." They've installed Governments in Countries as long as it suited there domestic interests.Now they're coming to the aid of the Georgians? I didn't exactly see them do that when there was a Genocide going on in a place like Rwanda.I guess there was no Oil Reserves or other natural resources for Big Business to exploit. Just want to close off with what The Late George Carlin stated in his bit called The Owners Of this Country " You're not Free ! You're Owned.The owners of this Country they own you.They own all the important Land they control and own the Major Media outlets and they have The Senate,Judges,Congress all in there back pocket.This Country was bought and paid for a long time ago.They got you by the Balls! It's a Big Exclusive Club and Guess what !..You and Me..We're not in it." This can be said for my country to and others as well.

[_strat_] Saturday, August 30, 2008 12:53:23 AM

Well, yeah, that is even worse... Still, even the so-called democracy in the west has a lot of room for improvement.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by TIMBONI from Saturday, August 30, 2008 12:50:28 AM)

TIMBONI wrote:

Considering what I'm seeing from the East right now, I think I'd prefer the asylum. I don't care to live under Russia part 2

stratlover wrote:

Well, as far as Im concerned, democracy means that we get to decide on what to do, how to do it, how things are, ect.
Not the thing that is usualy called democracy in the west, when it just basicly means that we get to choose on which lunatic should run the asylum (a government).

Jpz #1 fan wrote:

		Palmer Griffiths wrote:

		I Just wanted to add a little more on this subject. What I'm about to say is not aimed at the entire American People.I have nothing against Americans, but those few who are on top of the Ivory Tower Like the Government and Big Business etc. Altough I find what's going on in that region of the World alarming the U.S. is claiming Russia has attacked and Invaded a soveriegn Country ..But what about the United States? They've done that sort of thing countless times in Latin American Countries and other nations around the Globe.They had Fulgencio Batista in power in Cuba who was corrupt as Well the Sha Of Iran who was put in power and Henry Kissinger was quoted as saying " He's a Bastard,But he's our Bastard." They've installed Governments in Countries as long as it suited there domestic interests.Now they're coming to the aid of the Georgians? I didn't exactly see them do that when there was a Genocide going on in a place like Rwanda.I guess there was no Oil Reserves or other natural resources for Big Business to exploit. Just want to close off with what The Late George Carlin stated in his bit called The Owners Of this Country " You're not Free ! You're Owned.The owners of this Country they own you.They own all the important Land they control and own the Major Media outlets and they have The Senate,Judges,Congress all in there back pocket.This Country was bought and paid for a long time ago.They got you by the Balls! It's a Big Exclusive Club and Guess what !..You and Me..We're not in it." This can be said for my country to and others as well.

[TIMBONI] Saturday, August 30, 2008 12:51:44 AM

Are you sure ? At least about the whipping part.

[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by stratlover from Saturday, August 30, 2008 12:48:59 AM)

stratlover wrote:

I hope that the golden rule doesnt apply to masochists. I sure wouldnt like someone to whip me, or pull out my fingenails or something like that, hoping that I will do the same to him.

TIMBONI wrote:

Jpz #1 fan wrote:

		Palmer Griffiths wrote:

		I Just wanted to add a little more on this subject. What I'm about to say is not aimed at the entire American People.I have nothing against Americans, but those few who are on top of the Ivory Tower Like the Government and Big Business etc. Altough I find what's going on in that region of the World alarming the U.S. is claiming Russia has attacked and Invaded a soveriegn Country ..But what about the United States? They've done that sort of thing countless times in Latin American Countries and other nations around the Globe.They had Fulgencio Batista in power in Cuba who was corrupt as Well the Sha Of Iran who was put in power and Henry Kissinger was quoted as saying " He's a Bastard,But he's our Bastard." They've installed Governments in Countries as long as it suited there domestic interests.Now they're coming to the aid of the Georgians? I didn't exactly see them do that when there was a Genocide going on in a place like Rwanda.I guess there was no Oil Reserves or other natural resources for Big Business to exploit. Just want to close off with what The Late George Carlin stated in his bit called The Owners Of this Country " You're not Free ! You're Owned.The owners of this Country they own you.They own all the important Land they control and own the Major Media outlets and they have The Senate,Judges,Congress all in there back pocket.This Country was bought and paid for a long time ago.They got you by the Balls! It's a Big Exclusive Club and Guess what !..You and Me..We're not in it." This can be said for my country to and others as well.

[TIMBONI] Saturday, August 30, 2008 12:50:28 AM

Considering what I'm seeing from the East right now, I think I'd prefer the asylum. I don't care to live under Russia part 2
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by stratlover from Saturday, August 30, 2008 12:47:51 AM)

stratlover wrote:

Jpz #1 fan wrote:

		Palmer Griffiths wrote:

		I Just wanted to add a little more on this subject. What I'm about to say is not aimed at the entire American People.I have nothing against Americans, but those few who are on top of the Ivory Tower Like the Government and Big Business etc. Altough I find what's going on in that region of the World alarming the U.S. is claiming Russia has attacked and Invaded a soveriegn Country ..But what about the United States? They've done that sort of thing countless times in Latin American Countries and other nations around the Globe.They had Fulgencio Batista in power in Cuba who was corrupt as Well the Sha Of Iran who was put in power and Henry Kissinger was quoted as saying " He's a Bastard,But he's our Bastard." They've installed Governments in Countries as long as it suited there domestic interests.Now they're coming to the aid of the Georgians? I didn't exactly see them do that when there was a Genocide going on in a place like Rwanda.I guess there was no Oil Reserves or other natural resources for Big Business to exploit. Just want to close off with what The Late George Carlin stated in his bit called The Owners Of this Country " You're not Free ! You're Owned.The owners of this Country they own you.They own all the important Land they control and own the Major Media outlets and they have The Senate,Judges,Congress all in there back pocket.This Country was bought and paid for a long time ago.They got you by the Balls! It's a Big Exclusive Club and Guess what !..You and Me..We're not in it." This can be said for my country to and others as well.

[_strat_] Saturday, August 30, 2008 12:48:59 AM

I hope that the golden rule doesnt apply to masochists. I sure wouldnt like someone to whip me, or pull out my fingenails or something like that, hoping that I will do the same to him.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by TIMBONI from Friday, August 29, 2008 10:11:36 PM)

TIMBONI wrote:

Jpz #1 fan wrote:

		Palmer Griffiths wrote:

		I Just wanted to add a little more on this subject. What I'm about to say is not aimed at the entire American People.I have nothing against Americans, but those few who are on top of the Ivory Tower Like the Government and Big Business etc. Altough I find what's going on in that region of the World alarming the U.S. is claiming Russia has attacked and Invaded a soveriegn Country ..But what about the United States? They've done that sort of thing countless times in Latin American Countries and other nations around the Globe.They had Fulgencio Batista in power in Cuba who was corrupt as Well the Sha Of Iran who was put in power and Henry Kissinger was quoted as saying " He's a Bastard,But he's our Bastard." They've installed Governments in Countries as long as it suited there domestic interests.Now they're coming to the aid of the Georgians? I didn't exactly see them do that when there was a Genocide going on in a place like Rwanda.I guess there was no Oil Reserves or other natural resources for Big Business to exploit. Just want to close off with what The Late George Carlin stated in his bit called The Owners Of this Country " You're not Free ! You're Owned.The owners of this Country they own you.They own all the important Land they control and own the Major Media outlets and they have The Senate,Judges,Congress all in there back pocket.This Country was bought and paid for a long time ago.They got you by the Balls! It's a Big Exclusive Club and Guess what !..You and Me..We're not in it." This can be said for my country to and others as well.

[_strat_] Saturday, August 30, 2008 12:47:51 AM

[TIMBONI] Friday, August 29, 2008 10:11:36 PM

[Soylentgreen4u] Friday, August 29, 2008 9:55:41 PM

SIMPLY PUT,THE TERM 'DEMOCRACY' CAN BE VERY MISLEADING TO THE MASSES WHO DRINK THE 'KOOL-AID' OF THEIR LEADERS SPEWING LIES TO THEIR PEOPLE WILL HIDING LIKE THIEVES BEHIND THE TERM 'DEMOCRACY'...NOT ALL LEADERS OF NATIONS THAT HAVE INCORRECT(TO SAY THE LEAST) SELF SERVING AGENDA'S FOR WORLD DOMINENCE LIVE IN CAVES...SOME ARE CLAD IN SUITS AND TIES!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Palmer Griffiths from Friday, August 29, 2008 9:38:47 PM)

Palmer Griffiths wrote:

True I have to admit you make some good ponts.If we didn't have the Soviets on our side World War II we'd probaly be under the jackboot now. But Also Yes I agree democracy is a funny term.I think one side has more while another has less.

Jpz #1 fan wrote:

		Palmer Griffiths wrote:

		I Just wanted to add a little more on this subject. What I'm about to say is not aimed at the entire American People.I have nothing against Americans, but those few who are on top of the Ivory Tower Like the Government and Big Business etc. Altough I find what's going on in that region of the World alarming the U.S. is claiming Russia has attacked and Invaded a soveriegn Country ..But what about the United States? They've done that sort of thing countless times in Latin American Countries and other nations around the Globe.They had Fulgencio Batista in power in Cuba who was corrupt as Well the Sha Of Iran who was put in power and Henry Kissinger was quoted as saying " He's a Bastard,But he's our Bastard." They've installed Governments in Countries as long as it suited there domestic interests.Now they're coming to the aid of the Georgians? I didn't exactly see them do that when there was a Genocide going on in a place like Rwanda.I guess there was no Oil Reserves or other natural resources for Big Business to exploit. Just want to close off with what The Late George Carlin stated in his bit called The Owners Of this Country " You're not Free ! You're Owned.The owners of this Country they own you.They own all the important Land they control and own the Major Media outlets and they have The Senate,Judges,Congress all in there back pocket.This Country was bought and paid for a long time ago.They got you by the Balls! It's a Big Exclusive Club and Guess what !..You and Me..We're not in it." This can be said for my country to and others as well.

[Palmer Griffiths] Friday, August 29, 2008 9:38:47 PM

[Jpz #1 fan] Friday, August 29, 2008 7:03:30 AM

i can understand Russias position against NATO membership...cause NATO is Russias enemy!!! if they get to the boaderline of Russian territory then of course they are going to retaliate one way or another...

i dont believe things will escalate more than they are now...things will get resolved peacefully all in good time

[Jpz #1 fan] Friday, August 29, 2008 7:00:19 AM

[.] Friday, August 29, 2008 3:46:10 AM

It's hard to take sides. I would feel guilty having one of each in front of me. Sitting on a beach chair in the shade, looking at them both fighting for dominance would be heartwrenching.
Have you ever seen a Mango Margarita KILL a Screwdriver...
Absolute massacre.
tssk tssk.

[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by TIMBONI from Monday, August 25, 2008 9:16:38 PM)

[TIMBONI] Monday, August 25, 2008 9:16:38 PM

Now that's a war worth fighting. I just can't decide what side I want to be on !

[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Where AmI from Monday, August 25, 2008 1:42:34 PM)

[.] Monday, August 25, 2008 1:42:34 PM

Margarita VS Mojito: the NEW COLD WAR

[Palmer Griffiths] Sunday, August 24, 2008 7:19:02 PM

I Just wanted to add a little more on this subject. What I'm about to say is not aimed at the entire American People.I have nothing against Americans, but those few who are on top of the Ivory Tower Like the Government and Big Business etc. Altough I find what's going on in that region of the World alarming the U.S. is claiming Russia has attacked and Invaded a soveriegn Country ..But what about the United States? They've done that sort of thing countless times in Latin American Countries and other nations around the Globe.They had Fulgencio Batista in power in Cuba who was corrupt as Well the Sha Of Iran who was put in power and Henry Kissinger was quoted as saying " He's a Bastard,But he's our Bastard." They've installed Governments in Countries as long as it suited there domestic interests.Now they're coming to the aid of the Georgians? I didn't exactly see them do that when there was a Genocide going on in a place like Rwanda.I guess there was no Oil Reserves or other natural resources for Big Business to exploit. Just want to close off with what The Late George Carlin stated in his bit called The Owners Of this Country " You're not Free ! You're Owned.The owners of this Country they own you.They own all the important Land they control and own the Major Media outlets and they have The Senate,Judges,Congress all in there back pocket.This Country was bought and paid for a long time ago.They got you by the Balls! It's a Big Exclusive Club and Guess what !..You and Me..We're not in it." This can be said for my country to and others as well.

[Soylentgreen4u] Wednesday, August 20, 2008 1:48:01 PM

CONDOLEEZA RUNNING HER MUG AGAIN OVER IN EUROPE...STATING THAT THE MISSLE DEFENSE (I LOVE HOW THEY USE THE TERM 'DEFENSE') SYSTEM INSTALLED NEAR THE RUSSIAN BORDER IN POLAND,IS NOT AIMED AT RUSSIA!!!...OHHHH,THANKS DEAR FOR THAT
I FEEL SOOOOO MUCH MORE AT EASE NOW!.......MUST BE THERE IN CASE AUSTRIA,
CZECHOSLOVAKIA OR MAYBE EVEN HUNGARY GET OUT OF LINE.

[.] Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:00:22 AM

You're a beer spy, that's what you are.

(cracking open a can is like activating a grenade and dar she blows!)

[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u from Monday, August 18, 2008 10:49:11 PM)

Soylentgreen4u wrote:

I'M SENDING IN MY RESUME TOMORROW ...A U.N. BREWERY....WOW!!!....CAN YOU IMAGINE
LOOKING AT THE WALL OF SELECTION AND TRYING TO DECIDE,KNOWING FULL WELL THE TAXI IS OUTSIDE WAITING WITH THE METER RUNNING!!!!!!!!AAAAAAARGH.....

P.S.--- IT WAS INCREDIBLY REMISS OF ME EARLIER NOT TO INCLUDE EGYPT(SORRY GOOD PEOPLE OF EGYPT)...DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT IS WIDELY SPECULATED THAT THE EGYPTIANS INVENTED BEER. PLEASE FORGIVE THE OVERSIGHT,WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN....NOW,CAN I HAVE A COLD ONE PLEASE?...

Where AmI wrote:

The entire UN brewery.

Soylentgreen4u wrote:

NOW THERE'S A TYPE OF GLOBAL CONFLICT WE COULD ALL ENJOY...HOWEVER THERE ARE SOME REAL HEAVYWEIGHTS FROM CANADA,GERMANY,AUSTRALIA AND OTHERS I'M SURE,WHO WOULD HAVE A LEGITIMATE SAY IN THE OUTCOME.....FORWARRRRRRRD...DRINK!...CHEERS!

		Where AmI wrote:

		Budweiser VS Miller - A New Cold War

Edited at: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:03:44 AM

[Soylentgreen4u] Monday, August 18, 2008 10:49:11 PM

[.] Monday, August 18, 2008 10:31:09 PM

The entire UN brewery.

[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u from Monday, August 18, 2008 8:22:23 PM)

[TIMBONI] Monday, August 18, 2008 9:31:27 PM

I agree, except for one variable. I see Russia as more of a "loose cannon" today as opposed to the old Soviet Union. And let's face it, they still have all those nukes. If the president says that there is a cease fire and the troops aren't doing it there is only 2 possiblities. He's a liar & / or he has no control of the military.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Monday, August 18, 2008 12:46:49 PM)

Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:

I don't think Russia is a real threat for the West right now. Let's not forget that it took the Russians almost a decade to regain full control over Chechnya, a tiny republic in the Northern Caucasus. Russia is the biggest country in the world and Chechnya has the same size as Connecticut. There over 140 million Russians and only 1 million Chechens. So go figure...

Russia is a big joke, they don't know how to run a country efficiently. There's a lot of violence, filth, racism and alcoholism down there. Many Russian men are obese and have a serious drinking problem. It's like planet of the apes down there. That's why the Russian population continues to decrease.

But the Russians and their sub-chimpanzee president want to make a statement and show the world that they are still one of the baddest gorillas in the jungle. So they attacked a dwarf state like Georgia, because they can't lose that war. Needless to say that I'm not impressed. The Russians are playing filthy games in the Caucasus. The war that's going on in Georgia right now is an old conflict. When the Soviet Union collapsed and Georgia declared it's independence, the ethnic Abkhaz people in Georgia's western province of Abhkazia made up only a whoppin' 18% of the population. The majority of the people in that province were Georgian. But with heavy support of the Russians the ethnic Abkhaz mountain people forced the entire Georgian population to leave the province. Between 10.000 and 30.000 Georgians were brutally murdered during this campaign of ethnic cleansing.

There's a very interesting article about this on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing_of_Georgians_in_Abkhazia Everyone should read this. If you don't want to read the entire article, than only read the testimonies. It's crazy stuff. It blew my mind! Just a little example:

"The local villagers (including women and children) were massacred while the church of St George became the scene of a blood bath.The nuns were raped and killed in front of the orthodox priests, father Yuri Anua and father Andria. Both priests were taken outside of the church and questioned about the ownership of the land in Abkhazia. After answering that Abkhazia was neither Georgian nor Abkhaz land but God's, they were shot by a confederate soldier."

Atrocities like these happened in the 1990's in Eastern Europe, they were committed by terrorists with heavy support of the Russians. That goes to show that the evil empire is still out there. (Quoting Message by TIMBONI from Sunday, August 17, 2008 9:05:53 PM)
Edited at: Monday, August 18, 2008 1:05:45 PM

[Soylentgreen4u] Monday, August 18, 2008 8:22:23 PM

[.] Monday, August 18, 2008 7:57:20 PM

Budweiser VS Miller - A New Cold War

[Soylentgreen4u] Monday, August 18, 2008 2:50:54 PM

THE ONLY GOOD THING IN WAR IS IT'S ENDING...PERIOD!!!!!!! ...

-SO RUSSIA IS A BIG JOKE?...THEY DON'T RUN THEIR COUNTRY EFFICIENTLY?...LAST TIME I CHECKED THE U.S. ECONOMY IS IN PRETTY ROUGH SHAPE AND HEADING SOUTH (BY THE WAY THIS TOO IS ALSO BEING STATED ALL OVER YOUR CNN ON A DAILY BASIS)

-THERE'S A LOT OF VIOLENCE,FILTH,RACISM AND ALCOHOLISM "DOWN THERE"??? ...MANY RUSSIAN MEN ARE OBESE/DRINKING PROBLEM....AND THESE PROBLEMS DON'T EXIST IN THE U.S.???...

-RUSSIA HAS SUB-CHIMPANZEE PRESIDENT....YEAAAAAH...OHHH I'M SORRY,I FORGOT ABOUT YOUR GUY 'DUBYA'.........WHO ALSO BY THE WAY IS APPROVED OF BY A WHOPPING 23% OR SO OF YOUR FELLOW COUNTRYFOLK!!!!!....WHO HAS BEEN CALLED ON CNN..."A COMPLETE EMBARRASSMENT ON EVERY LEVEL"

-THE U.S. IS NOT AT THE TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN...NO ONE IS!!!!!!!!!!...THE HUMAN RACE IS RACING TOWARDS THE BRICK WALL OF EXTINCTION AT A 1,000 MPH,WITH IT'S SEEMINGLY INFINITE STUPIDITY...AND YET CERTAIN COUNTRIES AND SOME OF IT'S PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK THEY'RE HEAD AND SHOULDERS ABOVE THE REST... THERE IS CORRUPTION IN EVERY COUNTRY ON THIS PLANET,NONE ARE WITHOUT...YOUR OWN COUNTRY IS SELLING IT'S CITIZENS OUT LEFT AND RIGHT,IN THE NAME OF PROFIT...YES,IT'S HAPPENING IN MY COUNTRY ALSO,DON'T WORRY,I'M AWARE OF THAT FACT.

- RUSSIA IS A THREAT...HOWEVER SO IS THE U.S.,CHINA,IRAN,NORTH KOREA,PAKISTAN,
INDIA AND OTHERS AS FAR AS WAR GOES...NO ONE COUNTRY IS ABOVE DOING THE INCORRECT THING,SOME JUST DISGUISE THEIR INTENTIONS AND LONG-TERM GOALS BETTER THAN OTHERS.

IS THE ONLY WAY...IF ANOTHER MAJOR CONFLICT ERUPTS,I FEAR MORE THAN JUST ONE OR TWO OF THE PRINCIPAL COMBATANTS WILL SUFFER,MANY,MANY WILL DIE...VERY LIKELY EVEN IN YOUR COUNTRY AND MINE.

[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Monday, August 18, 2008 12:46:49 PM)

Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:

I don't think Russia is a real threat for the West right now. Let's not forget that it took the Russians almost a decade to regain full control over Chechnya, a tiny republic in the Northern Caucasus. Russia is the biggest country in the world and Chechnya has the same size as Connecticut. There over 140 million Russians and only 1 million Chechens. So go figure...

Russia is a big joke, they don't know how to run a country efficiently. There's a lot of violence, filth, racism and alcoholism down there. Many Russian men are obese and have a serious drinking problem. It's like planet of the apes down there. That's why the Russian population continues to decrease.

But the Russians and their sub-chimpanzee president want to make a statement and show the world that they are still one of the baddest gorillas in the jungle. So they attacked a dwarf state like Georgia, because they can't lose that war. Needless to say that I'm not impressed. The Russians are playing filthy games in the Caucasus. The war that's going on in Georgia right now is an old conflict. When the Soviet Union collapsed and Georgia declared it's independence, the ethnic Abkhaz people in Georgia's western province of Abhkazia made up only a whoppin' 18% of the population. The majority of the people in that province were Georgian. But with heavy support of the Russians the ethnic Abkhaz mountain people forced the entire Georgian population to leave the province. Between 10.000 and 30.000 Georgians were brutally murdered during this campaign of ethnic cleansing.

There's a very interesting article about this on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing_of_Georgians_in_Abkhazia Everyone should read this. If you don't want to read the entire article, than only read the testimonies. It's crazy stuff. It blew my mind! Just a little example:
"The local villagers (including women and children) were massacred while the church of St George became the scene of a blood bath.The nuns were raped and killed in front of the orthodox priests, father Yuri Anua and father Andria. Both priests were taken outside of the church and questioned about the ownership of the land in Abkhazia. After answering that Abkhazia was neither Georgian nor Abkhaz land but God's, they were shot by a confederate soldier."
Atrocities like these happened in the 1990's in Eastern Europe, they were committed by terrorists with heavy support of the Russians. That goes to show that the evil empire is still out there. (Quoting Message by TIMBONI from Sunday, August 17, 2008 9:05:53 PM) Edited at: Monday, August 18, 2008 1:05:45 PM

Edited at: Monday, August 18, 2008 2:52:01 PM

[Craig Wagenhoffer] Monday, August 18, 2008 12:46:49 PM

I don't think Russia is a real threat for the West right now. Let's not forget that it took the Russians almost a decade to regain full control over Chechnya, a tiny republic in the Northern Caucasus. Russia is the biggest country in the world and Chechnya has the same size as Connecticut. There over 140 million Russians and only 1 million Chechens. So go figure...

Russia is a big joke, they don't know how to run a country efficiently. There's a lot of violence, filth, racism and alcoholism down there. Many Russian men are obese and have a serious drinking problem. It's like planet of the apes down there. That's why the Russian population continues to decrease.

But the Russians and their sub-chimpanzee president want to make a statement and show the world that they are still one of the baddest gorillas in the jungle. So they attacked a dwarf state like Georgia, because they can't lose that war. Needless to say that I'm not impressed. The Russians are playing filthy games in the Caucasus. The war that's going on in Georgia right now is an old conflict. When the Soviet Union collapsed and Georgia declared it's independence, the ethnic Abkhaz people in Georgia's western province of Abhkazia made up only a whoppin' 18% of the population. The majority of the people in that province were Georgian. But with heavy support of the Russians the ethnic Abkhaz mountain people forced the entire Georgian population to leave the province. Between 10.000 and 30.000 Georgians were brutally murdered during this campaign of ethnic cleansing.

There's a very interesting article about this on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing_of_Georgians_in_Abkhazia Everyone should read this. If you don't want to read the entire article, than only read the testimonies. It's crazy stuff. It blew my mind! Just a little example:

"The local villagers (including women and children) were massacred while the church of St George became the scene of a blood bath.The nuns were raped and killed in front of the orthodox priests, father Yuri Anua and father Andria. Both priests were taken outside of the church and questioned about the ownership of the land in Abkhazia. After answering that Abkhazia was neither Georgian nor Abkhaz land but God's, they were shot by a confederate soldier."

Atrocities like these happened in the 1990's in Eastern Europe, they were committed by terrorists with heavy support of the Russians. That goes to show that the evil empire is still out there. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by TIMBONI from Sunday, August 17, 2008 9:05:53 PM)
Edited at: Monday, August 18, 2008 1:05:45 PM

[TIMBONI] Sunday, August 17, 2008 9:05:53 PM

This is really scary for me. I grew up seeing pictures of Bear bombers on the front page of the newspaper when they would come over the pole and get greeted by the squadron from Otis AFB. Difference here is the lack of structure. Russia still has all the firepower they used to have, but with no real centralized government. This could get really bad, really fast. If Iran fires up at the same time, welcome to hell !

[Palmer Griffiths] Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:03:55 PM

Well Some are saying there's Different reasons why the Russians are there. One of them is that Georgia which is a former Satellite State of the Soviet Union wants NATO membership and The Russian Government is Vehemetly oopossed to it because apparently they see NATO as a threat to them and already a few Former Soviet Bloc countries are now NATO members one of them being Poland and another the Czech Republic . Apparently the Ukraine is seeking NATO membership as well.Analysts say that Russia sees that as a growing concern because it's happening right at there Doorstep.Other reasons are there is an oil pipeline running through there to the Caspian Sea which is in Both the interests of the United States and Russia. Despite that there are break away states from Georgia that the Russians are saying that Georgia will not get back these are supposed to be some of the reasons.

[VICTIM OF METAL] Sunday, August 17, 2008 6:22:24 AM

Seems planned to me. It would take some time to mass those forces on their border before an attack? Attacking when the worlds eyes were watching something else? Almost to the moment the olympics began?
Edited at: Sunday, August 17, 2008 6:25:21 AM

[156555464] Saturday, August 16, 2008 11:02:54 PM

Not only that,, Russia threaten Poland with nukes because of the missile agreement with the United States. The media seems to think that Russia is trying to get back the old Soviet Union.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Palmer Griffiths from Saturday, August 16, 2008 10:56:54 PM)

[Palmer Griffiths] Saturday, August 16, 2008 10:56:54 PM

Hey folks I've been watching the news about the Georgia-Russia conflict. Seems Frightening.Hope it doesn't destablise the world with all the stuff right now that's going on with Iraq and Afghanistan it's kind of scarey hope it doesn't lead to worse things...Anyone have opinions onm the subject?

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