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Problem............will Rob know? He does have a tendancy to forget over time. Especially, so much time. Could be he made his own blended words?
The world may never know.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:03:30 AM)| |  | guidogodoy wrote: | | I think I came to the conclusion that "Sins of a nation" was the first line back when we were last considering the topic. Not convinced about the second, though. New suggestion that I don't believe I've heard before. Have to give that one some consideration and a few listens.
| | | METALMANJP wrote: | | I must put my 2 cents in. I think he says "Sins of a Nation" the first time and "Desperate Nation" the second. You can hear the first verse clearly on the bootleg "Live in Concert June 25th 1980"
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| [guidogodoy] Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:03:30 AM | |
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I think I came to the conclusion that "Sins of a nation" was the first line back when we were last considering the topic. Not convinced about the second, though. New suggestion that I don't believe I've heard before. Have to give that one some consideration and a few listens.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by METALMANJP from Wednesday, July 06, 2011 5:49:52 AM)| | | METALMANJP wrote: | | I must put my 2 cents in. I think he says "Sins of a Nation" the first time and "Desperate Nation" the second. You can hear the first verse clearly on the bootleg "Live in Concert June 25th 1980"
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| [METALMANJP] Wednesday, July 06, 2011 5:49:52 AM | |
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I must put my 2 cents in. I think he says "Sins of a Nation" the first time and "Desperate Nation" the second. You can hear the first verse clearly on the bootleg "Live in Concert June 25th 1980"
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| [You Don't Know What It's Like!] Tuesday, July 05, 2011 5:25:07 PM | |
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From the Red Hot Tokyo 1978 bootleg, which has one of the clearer recordings of what Rob says between "Sinners"...
...the first chorus sounds like "Assass-of-a-nation", the second could be "Dearth of creation" or "Birth of creation" or "Death of creation" - other recordings make it sound like he's saying "Desacrimation".
Perhaps, he's just made some words up; like "Desolisating" in Rapid Fire.
Anyway, a complete guess on my part. Just thought I'd add.
Someone ask the man himself, please!
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Tuesday, July 05, 2011 12:31:41 AM | |
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Have there been any instances where Rob says nothing at all in between those "sinners"?
KK Danny, in order to solve this mystery, somebody will have to ask Rob about it or something.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, July 03, 2011 6:05:21 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Nope. We've been through this and I've tried to isolate that sound on hundreds of recordings for years.
Don't buy it. Those printed lyrics aren't the "end all" as Rob is clearly saying something different on some recordings.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Ah, there we go. Thanks for the article. Maybe those extra lyrics were something the author of the article added? They aren't in the album booklet, that's for sure.
Personally, I think Rob's saying "The sins of a nation", or something similar. The second lyric is much more harder to interpret, although I'd say he's whispering "discreation" or "is this our creation".
(Quoting Message by Nupe The Ripper from Sunday, July 03, 2011 4:32:15 PM)
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Yeah, saw that question as well. "Curse of the nation" doesn't sound like the correct answer either. Personally I think it sounds something like "assasination".
Here's the Fuel of the Furnace special that has full lyrics:
kkdowning.net/specialreports/fotf/fotf1_sinner.html
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Really? It certainly doesn't sound like it. I asked KK the same question as KK Danny did a few months ago (via his Q & A thing on his website), and he said something completely different, especially in regards to the first one (although he does state that he is not 100% sure).
First question.
kkdowning.net/downingstreet/q&a2010_december.html
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I'm not 100% sure of it, but the Fuel of the Furnace special on KK's Steel Mill points out that the words are "desegregation" during the first chorus and "is this obligation" in the second chorus.
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| [KK Danny] Monday, July 04, 2011 2:33:02 AM | |
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Well, at least I'm not the only one wondering 
We need to solve this mystery!
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| [guidogodoy] Sunday, July 03, 2011 6:05:21 PM | |
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Nope. We've been through this and I've tried to isolate that sound on hundreds of recordings for years.
Don't buy it. Those printed lyrics aren't the "end all" as Rob is clearly saying something different on some recordings.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, July 03, 2011 4:40:53 PM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Ah, there we go. Thanks for the article. Maybe those extra lyrics were something the author of the article added? They aren't in the album booklet, that's for sure.
Personally, I think Rob's saying "The sins of a nation", or something similar. The second lyric is much more harder to interpret, although I'd say he's whispering "discreation" or "is this our creation".
(Quoting Message by Nupe The Ripper from Sunday, July 03, 2011 4:32:15 PM)
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Yeah, saw that question as well. "Curse of the nation" doesn't sound like the correct answer either. Personally I think it sounds something like "assasination".
Here's the Fuel of the Furnace special that has full lyrics:
kkdowning.net/specialreports/fotf/fotf1_sinner.html
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Really? It certainly doesn't sound like it. I asked KK the same question as KK Danny did a few months ago (via his Q & A thing on his website), and he said something completely different, especially in regards to the first one (although he does state that he is not 100% sure).
First question.
kkdowning.net/downingstreet/q&a2010_december.html
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Nupe The Ripper wrote: |
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I'm not 100% sure of it, but the Fuel of the Furnace special on KK's Steel Mill points out that the words are "desegregation" during the first chorus and "is this obligation" in the second chorus.
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, July 03, 2011 4:40:53 PM | |
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Ah, there we go. Thanks for the article. Maybe those extra lyrics were something the author of the article added? They aren't in the album booklet, that's for sure.
Personally, I think Rob's saying "The sins of a nation", or something similar. The second lyric is much more harder to interpret, although I'd say he's whispering "discreation" or "is this our creation".
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Nupe The Ripper from Sunday, July 03, 2011 4:32:15 PM)
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Nupe The Ripper wrote: |
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Yeah, saw that question as well. "Curse of the nation" doesn't sound like the correct answer either. Personally I think it sounds something like "assasination".
Here's the Fuel of the Furnace special that has full lyrics:
kkdowning.net/specialreports/fotf/fotf1_sinner.html
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Really? It certainly doesn't sound like it. I asked KK the same question as KK Danny did a few months ago (via his Q & A thing on his website), and he said something completely different, especially in regards to the first one (although he does state that he is not 100% sure).
First question.
kkdowning.net/downingstreet/q&a2010_december.html
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Nupe The Ripper wrote: |
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I'm not 100% sure of it, but the Fuel of the Furnace special on KK's Steel Mill points out that the words are "desegregation" during the first chorus and "is this obligation" in the second chorus.
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| [Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, July 03, 2011 4:32:15 PM | |
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Yeah, saw that question as well. "Curse of the nation" doesn't sound like the correct answer either. Personally I think it sounds something like "assasination".
Here's the Fuel of the Furnace special that has full lyrics:
kkdowning.net/specialreports/fotf/fotf1_sinner.html
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, July 03, 2011 4:23:12 PM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Really? It certainly doesn't sound like it. I asked KK the same question as KK Danny did a few months ago (via his Q & A thing on his website), and he said something completely different, especially in regards to the first one (although he does state that he is not 100% sure).
First question.
kkdowning.net/downingstreet/q&a2010_december.html
| | | Nupe The Ripper wrote: | | I'm not 100% sure of it, but the Fuel of the Furnace special on KK's Steel Mill points out that the words are "desegregation" during the first chorus and "is this obligation" in the second chorus.
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, July 03, 2011 4:23:12 PM | |
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Really? It certainly doesn't sound like it. I asked KK the same question as KK Danny did a few months ago (via his Q & A thing on his website), and he said something completely different, especially in regards to the first one (although he does state that he is not 100% sure).
First question.
kkdowning.net/downingstreet/q&a2010_december.html
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Nupe The Ripper from Sunday, July 03, 2011 3:57:41 PM)| | | Nupe The Ripper wrote: | | I'm not 100% sure of it, but the Fuel of the Furnace special on KK's Steel Mill points out that the words are "desegregation" during the first chorus and "is this obligation" in the second chorus.
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| [Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, July 03, 2011 3:57:41 PM | |
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I'm not 100% sure of it, but the Fuel of the Furnace special on KK's Steel Mill points out that the words are "desegregation" during the first chorus and "is this obligation" in the second chorus.
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| [KK Danny] Sunday, July 03, 2011 3:00:16 PM | |
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Alright, here's something Ive never found out, and I just cant pinpoint it. I always thought about asking the band if I ever got to meet them, but when I actually met them, i was too starstruck to ask!!
In SINNER (one of my biggest favourites), during the chorus, Rob sings SINNER, SINNER, and then he mumbles something..... what is it? I thought it sounded like something along "disintegration" or something..
Please help :-D
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