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| [guidogodoy] Monday, January 24, 2011 5:25:16 PM | |
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Here I thought that nobody would even make an attempt. Nope, not a card game. At one point, I thought it might have had something to do with 99/100 which also didn't make much sense.
On O'ahu, one of the major hotels had an art exposition about Amelia Earhart. Not knowing much of her history with regard to Hawai'i, I read up about her.
"The 99's" was an international organization of women pilots. Earhart was its first president. The name was chosen because 99 of the 100+ licensed women pilots of the time (1929) showed up at the first meeting. The term was later expanded to refer to any women with the bravado only an early aviatrix would have possessed: "she is a definite 'Ninety-Nine'! "
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninety-Nines
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| [K2M] Monday, January 24, 2011 4:42:05 PM | |
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Quoting OZZY, "I dont know".
Do please tell.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, January 15, 2011 1:16:05 AM)| |  | guidogodoy wrote: | | Here is one I just learned thanks to the recent trip. As always...keep away from them thar search engines!
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In Rocka Rolla, the lyrics go:
"Barroom fighter,
10 pint a-nighter,
Definite 99."
The first two lines are obvious and I always thought I knew what the reference to "99" was - at least in vague terms. However, it refers to something quite specific.
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| [METALMANJP] Monday, January 24, 2011 11:24:08 AM | |
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Is it a card game ?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, January 15, 2011 1:16:05 AM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Here is one I just learned thanks to the recent trip. As always...keep away from them thar search engines!
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In Rocka Rolla, the lyrics go:
"Barroom fighter,
10 pint a-nighter,
Definite 99."
The first two lines are obvious and I always thought I knew what the reference to "99" was - at least in vague terms. However, it refers to something quite specific.
What does it mean? |
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| [guidogodoy] Saturday, January 15, 2011 1:16:05 AM | |
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Here is one I just learned thanks to the recent trip. As always...keep away from them thar search engines!
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In Rocka Rolla, the lyrics go:
"Barroom fighter,
10 pint a-nighter,
Definite 99."
The first two lines are obvious and I always thought I knew what the reference to "99" was - at least in vague terms. However, it refers to something quite specific.
What does it mean? |
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| [METALMANJP] Tuesday, November 09, 2010 6:25:44 AM | |
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That was a good one !
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, November 08, 2010 4:23:08 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Revolutionary. 1968 was at the peak of his counter-establishment activities. Posed so much a threat that, in 1969, President Nixon called him the most dangerous man in America.
Changed a generation and ALSO called "The Wizard."
 Name him... (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Monday, November 08, 2010 3:39:24 PM)
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"Tune in, turn on, drop out, just like the wizard said."
That's the only other place where the word "wizard" shows up in all of Halford's songs. Could he be refering to the guy who originally said what's underlined?
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Nice google search but I'm afraid that none of the references make sense in context. "The Wizard of Oz" (in color) would have been the closest in the scale of changing the world but, as you say, it was already around. The Who release wouldn't have taken hold yet (nor did that one song - or Tommy - have any sweeping effect over Western Civilization) and an episode of the Wild, Wild West wouldnt' even be in the running. I'd say that Sabbath touring with Priest (another stretch in 1968), while a "memory" wouldn't have any mass effect. Not long-term, at least, thereby "[shaking] the world."
NONE have to do with my clue. Like most songwriters, Halford repeats the reference in a different song altogether.
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OK, Here's what I came up with. In 1968 The Wizard of Ozz was around, the show "The Wild,Wild West had an episode called "The Night the Wizard shook the Earth" and The Who released "Pinball Wizard". I thought with Sabbath they would have been touring around the pubs in England prior to releasing an album and no one had heard anything like that before so it would have made an impression on Halford.
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Another great guess. Also one that passed through my mind but same problem - year mentioned, nickname "The Wizard" (never used for Iomi or anyone else in the group) and one could never really claim that they ever "shook the world." If he / they did, it would have been much later than '68 too. Sure, Halford could be referring to the year they started playing but, like Hendrix, the dates and title just don't match up.
Ok, a hint? The answer to this question is found in another Halford (band, Fight or JP) song.
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Black Sabbath ?
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One would think as did I. I now argue that it is not. Hendrix was never known as "The Wizard" and died in 1970.
He was successful in Europe before the USA. He would have been famous earlier than '68 in Europe and Woodstock wasn't until '69.
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Are you serious? That is SO easy. Jimi Hendrix
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In the song "Made in Hell," Halford sings: "From memories of '68 when the Wizard shook the world..."
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Monday, November 08, 2010 11:11:56 PM | |
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And why not? Who doesn't love a nutty psychologist? [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, November 08, 2010 9:17:49 PM)
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Most certainly. Hendrix and Leary were friends. Hendrix was one of the many who was an open "disciple" of the teaching of Dr. Leary who, among other things, preached the use of psychedelic drugs (LSD) and marijuana.
They even recorded a well-known track together. Do a youtube search for Leary and Hendrix:
www.youtube.com/watch
"Hendrix has dinner with Timothy Leary, Devon Wilson, and Jann Wener, Editor of Rolling Stone magazine. Afterwards, Hendrix joins Leary at the Record Plant where they (alongside Stpehen Stills, Buddy Miles, and John Sebastian) record "Live And Let Live." The track is later released on Leary's 1970 You Can Be Anyone This Time Around what was originally designed as a campaign engine for his bid to become Governor of California in 1970. By the time the album was released, Leary was back in jail."
Hendrix is an easily recognizable image of the 60s. Besides, who'd want a Harvard Ph.D / psychologist in a music vid?! LOL!
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Cool!! Riddle solved. 
Still curious, though. Why is there a small clip of Jimi Hendrix in the Made in Hell music video? Was there a connection of some kind between him and Leary? |
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| [guidogodoy] Monday, November 08, 2010 9:17:49 PM | |
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Most certainly. Hendrix and Leary were friends. Hendrix was one of the many who was an open "disciple" of the teaching of Dr. Leary who, among other things, preached the use of psychedelic drugs (LSD) and marijuana.
They even recorded a well-known track together. Do a youtube search for Leary and Hendrix:
www.youtube.com/watch
"Hendrix has dinner with Timothy Leary, Devon Wilson, and Jann Wener, Editor of Rolling Stone magazine. Afterwards, Hendrix joins Leary at the Record Plant where they (alongside Stpehen Stills, Buddy Miles, and John Sebastian) record "Live And Let Live." The track is later released on Leary's 1970 You Can Be Anyone This Time Around what was originally designed as a campaign engine for his bid to become Governor of California in 1970. By the time the album was released, Leary was back in jail."
Hendrix is an easily recognizable image of the 60s. Besides, who'd want a Harvard Ph.D / psychologist in a music vid?! LOL!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Monday, November 08, 2010 8:30:52 PM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Cool!! Riddle solved.
Still curious, though. Why is there a small clip of Jimi Hendrix in the Made in Hell music video? Was there a connection of some kind between him and Leary? |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Monday, November 08, 2010 8:30:52 PM | |
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Cool!! Riddle solved.
Still curious, though. Why is there a small clip of Jimi Hendrix in the Made in Hell music video? Was there a connection of some kind between him and Leary? |
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| [guidogodoy] Monday, November 08, 2010 6:22:05 PM | |
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Bing! The "Wizard of the Psychodelic Era," Timothy Leary. In 1968, Leary published his most influential book, curiously enough, called "High Priest:"
www.roninpub.com/HigPri.html
Vail got the song with Halford's "Drop Out" which makes the clear reference:
"I Like To Lose My Mind And Fly Off Into Space
Why Don't You Come With Me You'll Leave Without A Trace
I've Got The Magic That Will Open Up Your Head
Tune In, Turn-On, Drop Out - Just Like The Wizard Said."
Halford also speaks of how Leary changed the world in the concert intros to said song.
At 1:25 in the following vid, I rest my case: www.youtube.com/watch
Good vid. I want to freeze my head too.
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| [spapad] Monday, November 08, 2010 5:48:48 PM | |
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Daniel Ellsberg ?
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| [acolyte55] Monday, November 08, 2010 5:03:01 PM | |
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| the watergate guy ?? good old whats his name ?? got the papers leaked or something like that? |
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| [acolyte55] Monday, November 08, 2010 4:57:35 PM | |
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| [guidogodoy] Monday, November 08, 2010 4:23:08 PM | |
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Revolutionary. 1968 was at the peak of his counter-establishment activities. Posed so much a threat that, in 1969, President Nixon called him the most dangerous man in America.
Changed a generation and ALSO called "The Wizard."
Name him... [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Monday, November 08, 2010 3:39:24 PM)
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"Tune in, turn on, drop out, just like the wizard said."
That's the only other place where the word "wizard" shows up in all of Halford's songs. Could he be refering to the guy who originally said what's underlined?
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Nice google search but I'm afraid that none of the references make sense in context. "The Wizard of Oz" (in color) would have been the closest in the scale of changing the world but, as you say, it was already around. The Who release wouldn't have taken hold yet (nor did that one song - or Tommy - have any sweeping effect over Western Civilization) and an episode of the Wild, Wild West wouldnt' even be in the running. I'd say that Sabbath touring with Priest (another stretch in 1968), while a "memory" wouldn't have any mass effect. Not long-term, at least, thereby "[shaking] the world."
NONE have to do with my clue. Like most songwriters, Halford repeats the reference in a different song altogether.
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OK, Here's what I came up with. In 1968 The Wizard of Ozz was around, the show "The Wild,Wild West had an episode called "The Night the Wizard shook the Earth" and The Who released "Pinball Wizard". I thought with Sabbath they would have been touring around the pubs in England prior to releasing an album and no one had heard anything like that before so it would have made an impression on Halford.
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Another great guess. Also one that passed through my mind but same problem - year mentioned, nickname "The Wizard" (never used for Iomi or anyone else in the group) and one could never really claim that they ever "shook the world." If he / they did, it would have been much later than '68 too. Sure, Halford could be referring to the year they started playing but, like Hendrix, the dates and title just don't match up.
Ok, a hint? The answer to this question is found in another Halford (band, Fight or JP) song.
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Black Sabbath ?
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guidogodoy wrote: |
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One would think as did I. I now argue that it is not. Hendrix was never known as "The Wizard" and died in 1970.
He was successful in Europe before the USA. He would have been famous earlier than '68 in Europe and Woodstock wasn't until '69.
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Are you serious? That is SO easy. Jimi Hendrix
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In the song "Made in Hell," Halford sings: "From memories of '68 when the Wizard shook the world..."
To whom or what does he refer? |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Monday, November 08, 2010 3:39:24 PM | |
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"Tune in, turn on, drop out, just like the wizard said."
That's the only other place where the word "wizard" shows up in all of Halford's songs. Could he be refering to the guy who originally said what's underlined?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, November 08, 2010 1:31:16 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Nice google search but I'm afraid that none of the references make sense in context. "The Wizard of Oz" (in color) would have been the closest in the scale of changing the world but, as you say, it was already around. The Who release wouldn't have taken hold yet (nor did that one song - or Tommy - have any sweeping effect over Western Civilization) and an episode of the Wild, Wild West wouldnt' even be in the running. I'd say that Sabbath touring with Priest (another stretch in 1968), while a "memory" wouldn't have any mass effect. Not long-term, at least, thereby "[shaking] the world."
NONE have to do with my clue. Like most songwriters, Halford repeats the reference in a different song altogether.
| | | METALMANJP wrote: | | OK, Here's what I came up with. In 1968 The Wizard of Ozz was around, the show "The Wild,Wild West had an episode called "The Night the Wizard shook the Earth" and The Who released "Pinball Wizard". I thought with Sabbath they would have been touring around the pubs in England prior to releasing an album and no one had heard anything like that before so it would have made an impression on Halford.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Another great guess. Also one that passed through my mind but same problem - year mentioned, nickname "The Wizard" (never used for Iomi or anyone else in the group) and one could never really claim that they ever "shook the world." If he / they did, it would have been much later than '68 too. Sure, Halford could be referring to the year they started playing but, like Hendrix, the dates and title just don't match up.
Ok, a hint? The answer to this question is found in another Halford (band, Fight or JP) song.
| | | METALMANJP wrote: | | Black Sabbath ?
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | One would think as did I. I now argue that it is not. Hendrix was never known as "The Wizard" and died in 1970.
He was successful in Europe before the USA. He would have been famous earlier than '68 in Europe and Woodstock wasn't until '69.
| | | spapad wrote: | | Are you serious? That is SO easy. Jimi Hendrix
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | In the song "Made in Hell," Halford sings: "From memories of '68 when the Wizard shook the world..."
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| [METALMANJP] Monday, November 08, 2010 3:08:39 PM | |
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| It must have something to do with the Anti-War Demonstrations in 1968. |
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| [Head banger] Monday, November 08, 2010 2:01:08 PM | |
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so a halford authored song then, not a cover?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, November 08, 2010 1:31:16 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Nice google search but I'm afraid that none of the references make sense in context. "The Wizard of Oz" (in color) would have been the closest in the scale of changing the world but, as you say, it was already around. The Who release wouldn't have taken hold yet (nor did that one song - or Tommy - have any sweeping effect over Western Civilization) and an episode of the Wild, Wild West wouldnt' even be in the running. I'd say that Sabbath touring with Priest (another stretch in 1968), while a "memory" wouldn't have any mass effect. Not long-term, at least, thereby "[shaking] the world."
NONE have to do with my clue. Like most songwriters, Halford repeats the reference in a different song altogether.
| | | METALMANJP wrote: | | OK, Here's what I came up with. In 1968 The Wizard of Ozz was around, the show "The Wild,Wild West had an episode called "The Night the Wizard shook the Earth" and The Who released "Pinball Wizard". I thought with Sabbath they would have been touring around the pubs in England prior to releasing an album and no one had heard anything like that before so it would have made an impression on Halford.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Another great guess. Also one that passed through my mind but same problem - year mentioned, nickname "The Wizard" (never used for Iomi or anyone else in the group) and one could never really claim that they ever "shook the world." If he / they did, it would have been much later than '68 too. Sure, Halford could be referring to the year they started playing but, like Hendrix, the dates and title just don't match up.
Ok, a hint? The answer to this question is found in another Halford (band, Fight or JP) song.
| | | METALMANJP wrote: | | Black Sabbath ?
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | One would think as did I. I now argue that it is not. Hendrix was never known as "The Wizard" and died in 1970.
He was successful in Europe before the USA. He would have been famous earlier than '68 in Europe and Woodstock wasn't until '69.
| | | spapad wrote: | | Are you serious? That is SO easy. Jimi Hendrix
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Nice google search but I'm afraid that none of the references make sense in context. "The Wizard of Oz" (in color) would have been the closest in the scale of changing the world but, as you say, it was already around. The Who release wouldn't have taken hold yet (nor did that one song - or Tommy - have any sweeping effect over Western Civilization) and an episode of the Wild, Wild West wouldnt' even be in the running. I'd say that Sabbath touring with Priest (another stretch in 1968), while a "memory" wouldn't have any mass effect. Not long-term, at least, thereby "[shaking] the world."
NONE have to do with my clue. Like most songwriters, Halford repeats the reference in a different song altogether.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by METALMANJP from Monday, November 08, 2010 11:43:50 AM)| | | METALMANJP wrote: | | OK, Here's what I came up with. In 1968 The Wizard of Ozz was around, the show "The Wild,Wild West had an episode called "The Night the Wizard shook the Earth" and The Who released "Pinball Wizard". I thought with Sabbath they would have been touring around the pubs in England prior to releasing an album and no one had heard anything like that before so it would have made an impression on Halford.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Another great guess. Also one that passed through my mind but same problem - year mentioned, nickname "The Wizard" (never used for Iomi or anyone else in the group) and one could never really claim that they ever "shook the world." If he / they did, it would have been much later than '68 too. Sure, Halford could be referring to the year they started playing but, like Hendrix, the dates and title just don't match up.
Ok, a hint? The answer to this question is found in another Halford (band, Fight or JP) song.
| | | METALMANJP wrote: | | Black Sabbath ?
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | One would think as did I. I now argue that it is not. Hendrix was never known as "The Wizard" and died in 1970.
He was successful in Europe before the USA. He would have been famous earlier than '68 in Europe and Woodstock wasn't until '69.
| | | spapad wrote: | | Are you serious? That is SO easy. Jimi Hendrix
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | In the song "Made in Hell," Halford sings: "From memories of '68 when the Wizard shook the world..."
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| [METALMANJP] Monday, November 08, 2010 11:43:50 AM | |
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OK, Here's what I came up with. In 1968 The Wizard of Ozz was around, the show "The Wild,Wild West had an episode called "The Night the Wizard shook the Earth" and The Who released "Pinball Wizard". I thought with Sabbath they would have been touring around the pubs in England prior to releasing an album and no one had heard anything like that before so it would have made an impression on Halford.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, November 08, 2010 8:15:43 AM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Another great guess. Also one that passed through my mind but same problem - year mentioned, nickname "The Wizard" (never used for Iomi or anyone else in the group) and one could never really claim that they ever "shook the world." If he / they did, it would have been much later than '68 too. Sure, Halford could be referring to the year they started playing but, like Hendrix, the dates and title just don't match up.
Ok, a hint? The answer to this question is found in another Halford (band, Fight or JP) song.
| | | METALMANJP wrote: | | Black Sabbath ?
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | One would think as did I. I now argue that it is not. Hendrix was never known as "The Wizard" and died in 1970.
He was successful in Europe before the USA. He would have been famous earlier than '68 in Europe and Woodstock wasn't until '69.
| | | spapad wrote: | | Are you serious? That is SO easy. Jimi Hendrix
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | In the song "Made in Hell," Halford sings: "From memories of '68 when the Wizard shook the world..."
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Another great guess. Also one that passed through my mind but same problem - year mentioned, nickname "The Wizard" (never used for Iomi or anyone else in the group) and one could never really claim that they ever "shook the world." If he / they did, it would have been much later than '68 too. Sure, Halford could be referring to the year they started playing but, like Hendrix, the dates and title just don't match up.
Ok, a hint? The answer to this question is found in another Halford (band, Fight or JP) song.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by METALMANJP from Monday, November 08, 2010 5:44:53 AM)| | | METALMANJP wrote: | | Black Sabbath ?
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | One would think as did I. I now argue that it is not. Hendrix was never known as "The Wizard" and died in 1970.
He was successful in Europe before the USA. He would have been famous earlier than '68 in Europe and Woodstock wasn't until '69.
| | | spapad wrote: | | Are you serious? That is SO easy. Jimi Hendrix
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