[Brian_Evans] Friday, February 18, 2011 10:57:15 PM
Cool show! Halford needs to drop the cape though. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Friday, February 18, 2011 9:26:52 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Yep, we all agree that it was waste. Here's some footage of the Priest show I was at in Canada, this guy actually recorded and edited it pretty well, there's snippets of quite a few songs. There's actually a second part to this as well.
Brian_Evans wrote:
I think Halford totally blew it when he left the band. Wasted all those years apart and they have never quite recovered from it. Haven't been the same in my opinion.
jimmyjames wrote:
There's no denying that everything they've done together has been way better than anything they've done apart. Maybe management did sway them at times. I just wish they'd stuck to their guns in the 90s, if they had done that the way the likes of Maiden, AC/DC, Slayer and so forth did then maybe I wouldn't feel the way I do.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
You are absolutely right about why Rob left, he saw traditional metal was no longer the in thing. He even said metal was dead, didn't he? I was so pissed at him that I didn't even follow him back then and stuck with Priest. I think the POE album and some of the other things are management and record companies telling Priest to go that way, not necessarily what they wanted to do if you know what I mean. As for the reissues and remasters, it's the only way to keep your stuff on the shelves of the CD stores these days because they only carry the current stuff. I remember when you could go into a record store and buy any album the band had, current or 10 years old but it just isn't that way anymore. Other bands do the same thing, trying to attract new fans. Is it the bands decision to put out those or is it the record company's? I don't know. And yeah, Rob wasn't making it big with Fight, Two or Halford and then he reunited with Priest. But money isn't everything and if you hate the people you are with, it just isn't worth it. When I saw Priest in 1990, I'm not even kidding about this - they HATED each other that night! It was beyond obvious to anyone that had ever seen them before. I have the bootleg video of that show too. They aren't very good at hiding their emotions on stage, lets put it that way. Of course it's about making money too, but they wouldn't be able to write or tour if they really didn't want to be together. So I'd say it's likely half and half, 50% for $ and 50% because of the magic they found together.
jimmyjames wrote:
I'm not convinced. Of course they are going to say that. No band is going to reform and say "yeah, we're basically sick of playing clubs so we're getting the old band back together so we can hit the arena circuit and cream some decent money out of it". It's no coincidence they broke up when bands like Pantera and Sepultura were getting big, the grunge era was in full swing and Halford saw that as the future, hence the reason he started Fight and started wearing backwards caps and checkered shirts. Amazingly when traditional metal made a comeback in the early 2000s Priest made a comeback. You can say they wouldn't do something so hollow but they've chased the buck so many times in the past ( Point Of Entry, Turbo, Johnny B Good cover, countless reissues, remasters, British Steel re reissue and tour, that shitty live album they released), why should this be any different?
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
You are right Becks,they truly aren't that shallow. Rob wanted back in the band long before it actually happened, but he put conditions on it such as wanting new management (which I WISH would have happened!) But a TON of shit went down when he left. Hurtful things were said by both sides and there were A LOT of hard feelings. It wasn't until Rob wrote a letter to the band, pouring out his heart, that they began to build the bridge again. Rob had a lot of making up to do with Glenn and once that happened they talked about reuniting. It wasn't for the money - it was because as Rob said, the greatest things he ever did were with Priest and that is where his heart is. KK said something like, why aren't we putting our eggs in one basket? They went to see Halford perform live and saw that Rob still had it. They are like siblings and siblings fight. Fortunately for us, they got back together and aren't holding any grudges. As Rob said before they got back together, we have to do it for the right reasons and not for money because the fans will know. Well, there you have it - we would be able to tell that they were there only for the money when on stage and trust me, they are having way too much fun and getting along way too well for it to be solely about money! I can't say the same about other bands though, reunite for one tour and call it quits again cause they can't stand each other.
Becks wrote:
Maybe they just realised that the were never as good apart as they were together, and the fact that before all the crap post Painkiller happened, they were best friends. Maybe I'm just an optimist, but that's how I see it. As for money, yeah that plays some role, it has to, they make music for a living for goodness sakes. I guess I'm just not so easily convinced of Priest being so hollow.
jimmyjames wrote:
I can't think of any other reason why a band who don't get along would suddenly decide to reform after 14 years.
Becks wrote:
Honestly, I have never felt that for a second.
jimmyjames wrote:
Everyone knows it's true deep down.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Better watch out man, you're not supposed to "rip" on Priest and then praise Maiden around here ..lol
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes it was, the band had been broken up for 14 years. Obviously bad blood there as well. Priest were a joke with Ripper, The Fight and Halford bands were going nowhere. Suddenly classic metal starts to make a comeback in the early 2000s. Oh well, lets put our differences aside and try and make some money out of it. That's exactly what happened.
Head banger wrote:
AMOLAD kicked ass on Final frontier. and priest a cash grab? AOR wasnt a cash grab. glad maiden won, but Final Frontier sucks balls
jimmyjames wrote:
Final Frontier is actually really good. The best Maiden have done in a while. And a much more deserved grammy than Priests for Dissident Aggressor. There seems to be a lot of anti Maiden feeling on this thread sometimes. It looks like a case of sour grapes from Priest fans who can't admit that Maiden have just done it better than Priest throughout their career. Priests career since 1990 has pretty much been a joke and it's been a cash grab since 04.
