[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 5:16:17 PM
"You know, I'm getting input here that I'm reading as relatively hostile."
Thank YOU, Spa for reading over my typos. After all, it is cooking, not spelling. I'll (ahem) let you know how it (bwwwaaahaa) comes out! LOL!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:38:22 PM)
Head banger wrote:
fool!!
guidogodoy wrote:
M'kay. Can anyone give me a good suggestion for cooking king crap? I LOVE crap. I eat it all the time. Sometimes it is steamed crap sometimes baked. I don't really like boiled crap as it sort of leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Too watery. Bleah!
I am serious about this one as it is on the menu tonight. Who has any suggestions as to how to cook crap?
Head banger wrote:
its cooking, not spelling.
windows has asked me to defrag the drive on my antique, but... I only have 5% free space, which wont do. so, no defrag for it.
this machine asked me to download IE 8 beta today. didnt of course. IE 7 seems fine, and its a work machine, no unauth downloads....
guidogodoy wrote:
Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:57:27 PM
Just returned from my introduction to Wii. It's official, I can bowl pretty good and play baseball ok but I suck at golf! I did pretty damn good in boxing though!
Crap? Your eating crap? My suggestion is you sprinkle a good bit of Old Bay on it, steam it with beer in the water, and when the craps stop banging on the lid they are done! Perhaps you would like to wear a bib and maybe a clothespin on your nose for such an ocassion? Enjoy! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:45:02 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
M'kay. Can anyone give me a good suggestion for cooking king crap? I LOVE crap. I eat it all the time. Sometimes it is steamed crap sometimes baked. I don't really like boiled crap as it sort of leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Too watery. Bleah!
I am serious about this one as it is on the menu tonight. Who has any suggestions as to how to cook crap?
Head banger wrote:
its cooking, not spelling.
windows has asked me to defrag the drive on my antique, but... I only have 5% free space, which wont do. so, no defrag for it.
this machine asked me to download IE 8 beta today. didnt of course. IE 7 seems fine, and its a work machine, no unauth downloads....
guidogodoy wrote:
Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:59:39 PM
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:38:22 PM
M'kay. Can anyone give me a good suggestion for cooking king crap? I LOVE crap. I eat it all the time. Sometimes it is steamed crap sometimes baked. I don't really like boiled crap as it sort of leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Too watery. Bleah!
I am serious about this one as it is on the menu tonight. Who has any suggestions as to how to cook crap?
Head banger wrote:
its cooking, not spelling.
windows has asked me to defrag the drive on my antique, but... I only have 5% free space, which wont do. so, no defrag for it.
this machine asked me to download IE 8 beta today. didnt of course. IE 7 seems fine, and its a work machine, no unauth downloads....
guidogodoy wrote:
Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:45:02 PM
M'kay. Can anyone give me a good suggestion for cooking king crap? I LOVE crap. I eat it all the time. Sometimes it is steamed crap sometimes baked. I don't really like boiled crap as it sort of leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Too watery. Bleah!
I am serious about this one as it is on the menu tonight. Who has any suggestions as to how to cook crap? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:33:44 PM)
Head banger wrote:
its cooking, not spelling.
windows has asked me to defrag the drive on my antique, but... I only have 5% free space, which wont do. so, no defrag for it.
this machine asked me to download IE 8 beta today. didnt of course. IE 7 seems fine, and its a work machine, no unauth downloads....
guidogodoy wrote:
Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:33:44 PM
its cooking, not spelling.
windows has asked me to defrag the drive on my antique, but... I only have 5% free space, which wont do. so, no defrag for it.
this machine asked me to download IE 8 beta today. didnt of course. IE 7 seems fine, and its a work machine, no unauth downloads.... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:59:43 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[Becks] Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:04:03 PM
HIya everyone sunday morning here almost the end of another week.
Argh I know nothing about computers other than I'm doing a virus scan right now LOL!
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:54:29 PM
In reference to you, if you didn't notice! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:52:41 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
You said "floppy"....HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
Ah, no big deal for you then. You only have about 10 seconds of footage of the "hedgehog" in action. Got any of those 5 1/4 floppies around? BWAWAHAAHAHAAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!
Good move by Flora, Spa. I actually like that system over the lame / static Xbox (does everything a PC can do but....um, you can't change with technology) or a PS3. Despite what they seem to claim, all are computers. Nintendo is the only one to offer something different in their controller system. A BIG plus in my book.
Deep Freeze wrote:
I save only porn clips..................
guidogodoy wrote:
Get a mybook external drive and it has software that will automate most for you. However, while I OWN three, I only backup what I think is important enough to lose. My work files, my music, my Priest DVDs, photos. I still have the install discs for applications, Most I can just download again.
Simple thought. Should your system die tomorrow, what would you REALLY miss? I say, without question, that you should sit down and think about this eventuality (it WILL happen). Myself? I was once crushed when I lost all my progress in a video game. Sure, I could have installed the game again but the save files, no (Simpsons, if anyone cares! LOL?). Had I another copy of the save games, the game itself (massive files) were irrelevant as I still had the install cds. It was the data that was crucial. Back up your data, my friend. All I can say.
You even saw that I recentlly bought a webook (Acer Aspire One) because I travel so much. Losing my Macbook would be the end of the world to me as it is my main business machine. However, a $300 webbook, pfffff. Not so big a deal. 160GB harddrive and 6 hours battery life. I watch a lot of movies on it, IOW. Should it get stolen, someone better enjoy all the Lost in Space episodes I have on it! "Oh, the pain, the pain!"
spapad wrote:
So to reinstall My windows from the biginning, I would have to have all the crap on this PC backed up down to the smallest irritating game?
guidogodoy wrote:
For most people, that is usually the case (I qualify with "usually" as I am quite the hardcore user). The drive SHOULD outlive the board. However, as stated, I build machines all the time. My current is a monster. Always two harddrives (at least) set up in a RAID configuration and my latest gaming machine has a water-cooled heatsink. Just to say that I am not the typical "type a document" sort of person. I modded out my latest build with six fans. Put toggle switches in them to turn the fans off and on as needed (running games vs. email). Sounds like a small airplane taking off when I hit my fan-boosters! THAT is my "true" machine. Bleeding edge techology. I currently (and usually type) on my Macbook Pro. I have another machine upstairs that is just my multimedia server that beams stuff down to my television / stereo and yet another home build in my office at work. The way things go is if I upgrade any part of my main machine, I rotate down. The low-end always ends up in my office at work be it memory, hardrive, ram, motherboard.
To add to this, I service a lab of some 30 Macs. While I have seen motherboards and chips fry, it is rare. Harddrives, statistically, will go first. I have seen it at home, have seen it at work. Even overclocking a chip or memory won't kill them nowadays. Harddrives will fail. ALWAYS. Back up your crucial data, compadres. My office harddive is always the first to die as it is always the oldest.
Back to that defrag question, I have a good quote in hand: Maximum PC (do's and dont's):
"Myth: defragmenting your harddrive improves performance:
One of the most venerable suggestions for improving disk performance is to defragment your harddrive regularly. The science of defragging is sound: By putting all the bits of a file or application in sequential order on your drive, the drive should do less work [and spend less time] to access those files. Thus: faster performance. Well, in practice it's not really true. Today's hard drives are fast enought to make fragmentation largely irrelevant, and our benchmark tests have repeatedly borne this out: On moderately fragmented drives, defragmentation will offer nigligible to no performance increase. For seriously fragmented drives [think 40% or more], especially those runing XP or older OSes, defragmentation can help, but don't expect the world."
Word for word as I had what I already knew at hand. Take it or leave it as you will from someone who hasn't defragged a drive and works with a bunch of geeks who also haven't don so in a decade (or more). However, I HAVE installed a clean version of windows MANY a time.
spapad wrote:
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:52:41 PM
You said "floppy"....HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:19:52 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Ah, no big deal for you then. You only have about 10 seconds of footage of the "hedgehog" in action. Got any of those 5 1/4 floppies around? BWAWAHAAHAHAAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!
Good move by Flora, Spa. I actually like that system over the lame / static Xbox (does everything a PC can do but....um, you can't change with technology) or a PS3. Despite what they seem to claim, all are computers. Nintendo is the only one to offer something different in their controller system. A BIG plus in my book.
Deep Freeze wrote:
I save only porn clips..................
guidogodoy wrote:
Get a mybook external drive and it has software that will automate most for you. However, while I OWN three, I only backup what I think is important enough to lose. My work files, my music, my Priest DVDs, photos. I still have the install discs for applications, Most I can just download again.
Simple thought. Should your system die tomorrow, what would you REALLY miss? I say, without question, that you should sit down and think about this eventuality (it WILL happen). Myself? I was once crushed when I lost all my progress in a video game. Sure, I could have installed the game again but the save files, no (Simpsons, if anyone cares! LOL?). Had I another copy of the save games, the game itself (massive files) were irrelevant as I still had the install cds. It was the data that was crucial. Back up your data, my friend. All I can say.
You even saw that I recentlly bought a webook (Acer Aspire One) because I travel so much. Losing my Macbook would be the end of the world to me as it is my main business machine. However, a $300 webbook, pfffff. Not so big a deal. 160GB harddrive and 6 hours battery life. I watch a lot of movies on it, IOW. Should it get stolen, someone better enjoy all the Lost in Space episodes I have on it! "Oh, the pain, the pain!"
spapad wrote:
So to reinstall My windows from the biginning, I would have to have all the crap on this PC backed up down to the smallest irritating game?
guidogodoy wrote:
For most people, that is usually the case (I qualify with "usually" as I am quite the hardcore user). The drive SHOULD outlive the board. However, as stated, I build machines all the time. My current is a monster. Always two harddrives (at least) set up in a RAID configuration and my latest gaming machine has a water-cooled heatsink. Just to say that I am not the typical "type a document" sort of person. I modded out my latest build with six fans. Put toggle switches in them to turn the fans off and on as needed (running games vs. email). Sounds like a small airplane taking off when I hit my fan-boosters! THAT is my "true" machine. Bleeding edge techology. I currently (and usually type) on my Macbook Pro. I have another machine upstairs that is just my multimedia server that beams stuff down to my television / stereo and yet another home build in my office at work. The way things go is if I upgrade any part of my main machine, I rotate down. The low-end always ends up in my office at work be it memory, hardrive, ram, motherboard.
To add to this, I service a lab of some 30 Macs. While I have seen motherboards and chips fry, it is rare. Harddrives, statistically, will go first. I have seen it at home, have seen it at work. Even overclocking a chip or memory won't kill them nowadays. Harddrives will fail. ALWAYS. Back up your crucial data, compadres. My office harddive is always the first to die as it is always the oldest.
Back to that defrag question, I have a good quote in hand: Maximum PC (do's and dont's):
"Myth: defragmenting your harddrive improves performance:
One of the most venerable suggestions for improving disk performance is to defragment your harddrive regularly. The science of defragging is sound: By putting all the bits of a file or application in sequential order on your drive, the drive should do less work [and spend less time] to access those files. Thus: faster performance. Well, in practice it's not really true. Today's hard drives are fast enought to make fragmentation largely irrelevant, and our benchmark tests have repeatedly borne this out: On moderately fragmented drives, defragmentation will offer nigligible to no performance increase. For seriously fragmented drives [think 40% or more], especially those runing XP or older OSes, defragmentation can help, but don't expect the world."
Word for word as I had what I already knew at hand. Take it or leave it as you will from someone who hasn't defragged a drive and works with a bunch of geeks who also haven't don so in a decade (or more). However, I HAVE installed a clean version of windows MANY a time.
spapad wrote:
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:24:38 PM
OK, OK, I'm using achaic computer language, I mean CD, DVRs etc... Just like I cant quit saying album. LOL
She about had a fit when she first put her game in the game said it did not recognize it. She was on the edge of a meltdown when I just took out the disc and turned it around. Viola! Games! OMG, the joys of a tween. HA!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:19:52 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Ah, no big deal for you then. You only have about 10 seconds of footage of the "hedgehog" in action. Got any of those 5 1/4 floppies around? BWAWAHAAHAHAAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!
Good move by Flora, Spa. I actually like that system over the lame / static Xbox (does everything a PC can do but....um, you can't change with technology) or a PS3. Despite what they seem to claim, all are computers. Nintendo is the only one to offer something different in their controller system. A BIG plus in my book.
Deep Freeze wrote:
I save only porn clips..................
guidogodoy wrote:
Get a mybook external drive and it has software that will automate most for you. However, while I OWN three, I only backup what I think is important enough to lose. My work files, my music, my Priest DVDs, photos. I still have the install discs for applications, Most I can just download again.
Simple thought. Should your system die tomorrow, what would you REALLY miss? I say, without question, that you should sit down and think about this eventuality (it WILL happen). Myself? I was once crushed when I lost all my progress in a video game. Sure, I could have installed the game again but the save files, no (Simpsons, if anyone cares! LOL?). Had I another copy of the save games, the game itself (massive files) were irrelevant as I still had the install cds. It was the data that was crucial. Back up your data, my friend. All I can say.
You even saw that I recentlly bought a webook (Acer Aspire One) because I travel so much. Losing my Macbook would be the end of the world to me as it is my main business machine. However, a $300 webbook, pfffff. Not so big a deal. 160GB harddrive and 6 hours battery life. I watch a lot of movies on it, IOW. Should it get stolen, someone better enjoy all the Lost in Space episodes I have on it! "Oh, the pain, the pain!"
spapad wrote:
So to reinstall My windows from the biginning, I would have to have all the crap on this PC backed up down to the smallest irritating game?
guidogodoy wrote:
For most people, that is usually the case (I qualify with "usually" as I am quite the hardcore user). The drive SHOULD outlive the board. However, as stated, I build machines all the time. My current is a monster. Always two harddrives (at least) set up in a RAID configuration and my latest gaming machine has a water-cooled heatsink. Just to say that I am not the typical "type a document" sort of person. I modded out my latest build with six fans. Put toggle switches in them to turn the fans off and on as needed (running games vs. email). Sounds like a small airplane taking off when I hit my fan-boosters! THAT is my "true" machine. Bleeding edge techology. I currently (and usually type) on my Macbook Pro. I have another machine upstairs that is just my multimedia server that beams stuff down to my television / stereo and yet another home build in my office at work. The way things go is if I upgrade any part of my main machine, I rotate down. The low-end always ends up in my office at work be it memory, hardrive, ram, motherboard.
To add to this, I service a lab of some 30 Macs. While I have seen motherboards and chips fry, it is rare. Harddrives, statistically, will go first. I have seen it at home, have seen it at work. Even overclocking a chip or memory won't kill them nowadays. Harddrives will fail. ALWAYS. Back up your crucial data, compadres. My office harddive is always the first to die as it is always the oldest.
Back to that defrag question, I have a good quote in hand: Maximum PC (do's and dont's):
"Myth: defragmenting your harddrive improves performance:
One of the most venerable suggestions for improving disk performance is to defragment your harddrive regularly. The science of defragging is sound: By putting all the bits of a file or application in sequential order on your drive, the drive should do less work [and spend less time] to access those files. Thus: faster performance. Well, in practice it's not really true. Today's hard drives are fast enought to make fragmentation largely irrelevant, and our benchmark tests have repeatedly borne this out: On moderately fragmented drives, defragmentation will offer nigligible to no performance increase. For seriously fragmented drives [think 40% or more], especially those runing XP or older OSes, defragmentation can help, but don't expect the world."
Word for word as I had what I already knew at hand. Take it or leave it as you will from someone who hasn't defragged a drive and works with a bunch of geeks who also haven't don so in a decade (or more). However, I HAVE installed a clean version of windows MANY a time.
spapad wrote:
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:19:52 PM
Ah, no big deal for you then. You only have about 10 seconds of footage of the "hedgehog" in action. Got any of those 5 1/4 floppies around? BWAWAHAAHAHAAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!
Good move by Flora, Spa. I actually like that system over the lame / static Xbox (does everything a PC can do but....um, you can't change with technology) or a PS3. Despite what they seem to claim, all are computers. Nintendo is the only one to offer something different in their controller system. A BIG plus in my book.
Get a mybook external drive and it has software that will automate most for you. However, while I OWN three, I only backup what I think is important enough to lose. My work files, my music, my Priest DVDs, photos. I still have the install discs for applications, Most I can just download again.
Simple thought. Should your system die tomorrow, what would you REALLY miss? I say, without question, that you should sit down and think about this eventuality (it WILL happen). Myself? I was once crushed when I lost all my progress in a video game. Sure, I could have installed the game again but the save files, no (Simpsons, if anyone cares! LOL?). Had I another copy of the save games, the game itself (massive files) were irrelevant as I still had the install cds. It was the data that was crucial. Back up your data, my friend. All I can say.
You even saw that I recentlly bought a webook (Acer Aspire One) because I travel so much. Losing my Macbook would be the end of the world to me as it is my main business machine. However, a $300 webbook, pfffff. Not so big a deal. 160GB harddrive and 6 hours battery life. I watch a lot of movies on it, IOW. Should it get stolen, someone better enjoy all the Lost in Space episodes I have on it! "Oh, the pain, the pain!"
spapad wrote:
So to reinstall My windows from the biginning, I would have to have all the crap on this PC backed up down to the smallest irritating game?
guidogodoy wrote:
For most people, that is usually the case (I qualify with "usually" as I am quite the hardcore user). The drive SHOULD outlive the board. However, as stated, I build machines all the time. My current is a monster. Always two harddrives (at least) set up in a RAID configuration and my latest gaming machine has a water-cooled heatsink. Just to say that I am not the typical "type a document" sort of person. I modded out my latest build with six fans. Put toggle switches in them to turn the fans off and on as needed (running games vs. email). Sounds like a small airplane taking off when I hit my fan-boosters! THAT is my "true" machine. Bleeding edge techology. I currently (and usually type) on my Macbook Pro. I have another machine upstairs that is just my multimedia server that beams stuff down to my television / stereo and yet another home build in my office at work. The way things go is if I upgrade any part of my main machine, I rotate down. The low-end always ends up in my office at work be it memory, hardrive, ram, motherboard.
To add to this, I service a lab of some 30 Macs. While I have seen motherboards and chips fry, it is rare. Harddrives, statistically, will go first. I have seen it at home, have seen it at work. Even overclocking a chip or memory won't kill them nowadays. Harddrives will fail. ALWAYS. Back up your crucial data, compadres. My office harddive is always the first to die as it is always the oldest.
Back to that defrag question, I have a good quote in hand: Maximum PC (do's and dont's):
"Myth: defragmenting your harddrive improves performance:
One of the most venerable suggestions for improving disk performance is to defragment your harddrive regularly. The science of defragging is sound: By putting all the bits of a file or application in sequential order on your drive, the drive should do less work [and spend less time] to access those files. Thus: faster performance. Well, in practice it's not really true. Today's hard drives are fast enought to make fragmentation largely irrelevant, and our benchmark tests have repeatedly borne this out: On moderately fragmented drives, defragmentation will offer nigligible to no performance increase. For seriously fragmented drives [think 40% or more], especially those runing XP or older OSes, defragmentation can help, but don't expect the world."
Word for word as I had what I already knew at hand. Take it or leave it as you will from someone who hasn't defragged a drive and works with a bunch of geeks who also haven't don so in a decade (or more). However, I HAVE installed a clean version of windows MANY a time.
spapad wrote:
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:12:02 PM
I have been comtemplating a back up hard drive. As for the thing I would miss the most, that's easy,.........my pictures. I try to copy them to disk often bacause if this machine died tomorrow all those memories would be gone with it, sort of like your house catching on fire on a very small scale. But I think pictures would be the thing most people would hate to loose.
Flora finally went and spent her Christmas/B-day money today. She decided she wanted to get a Wii. I would have never have been able to hold on to that cash and think wisely about what I wanted to spend it on when I was a kid, god no, that money would have been spent on everthing and anything. Now, she has a new gaming system and she found out it will play her old X-box games too, so she is super pleased with her investment. Smart kid!
BTW, Smith Rocks! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:01:25 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Get a mybook external drive and it has software that will automate most for you. However, while I OWN three, I only backup what I think is important enough to lose. My work files, my music, my Priest DVDs, photos. I still have the install discs for applications, Most I can just download again.
Simple thought. Should your system die tomorrow, what would you REALLY miss? I say, without question, that you should sit down and think about this eventuality (it WILL happen). Myself? I was once crushed when I lost all my progress in a video game. Sure, I could have installed the game again but the save files, no (Simpsons, if anyone cares! LOL?). Had I another copy of the save games, the game itself (massive files) were irrelevant as I still had the install cds. It was the data that was crucial. Back up your data, my friend. All I can say.
You even saw that I recentlly bought a webook (Acer Aspire One) because I travel so much. Losing my Macbook would be the end of the world to me as it is my main business machine. However, a $300 webbook, pfffff. Not so big a deal. 160GB harddrive and 6 hours battery life. I watch a lot of movies on it, IOW. Should it get stolen, someone better enjoy all the Lost in Space episodes I have on it! "Oh, the pain, the pain!"
spapad wrote:
So to reinstall My windows from the biginning, I would have to have all the crap on this PC backed up down to the smallest irritating game?
guidogodoy wrote:
For most people, that is usually the case (I qualify with "usually" as I am quite the hardcore user). The drive SHOULD outlive the board. However, as stated, I build machines all the time. My current is a monster. Always two harddrives (at least) set up in a RAID configuration and my latest gaming machine has a water-cooled heatsink. Just to say that I am not the typical "type a document" sort of person. I modded out my latest build with six fans. Put toggle switches in them to turn the fans off and on as needed (running games vs. email). Sounds like a small airplane taking off when I hit my fan-boosters! THAT is my "true" machine. Bleeding edge techology. I currently (and usually type) on my Macbook Pro. I have another machine upstairs that is just my multimedia server that beams stuff down to my television / stereo and yet another home build in my office at work. The way things go is if I upgrade any part of my main machine, I rotate down. The low-end always ends up in my office at work be it memory, hardrive, ram, motherboard.
To add to this, I service a lab of some 30 Macs. While I have seen motherboards and chips fry, it is rare. Harddrives, statistically, will go first. I have seen it at home, have seen it at work. Even overclocking a chip or memory won't kill them nowadays. Harddrives will fail. ALWAYS. Back up your crucial data, compadres. My office harddive is always the first to die as it is always the oldest.
Back to that defrag question, I have a good quote in hand: Maximum PC (do's and dont's):
"Myth: defragmenting your harddrive improves performance:
One of the most venerable suggestions for improving disk performance is to defragment your harddrive regularly. The science of defragging is sound: By putting all the bits of a file or application in sequential order on your drive, the drive should do less work [and spend less time] to access those files. Thus: faster performance. Well, in practice it's not really true. Today's hard drives are fast enought to make fragmentation largely irrelevant, and our benchmark tests have repeatedly borne this out: On moderately fragmented drives, defragmentation will offer nigligible to no performance increase. For seriously fragmented drives [think 40% or more], especially those runing XP or older OSes, defragmentation can help, but don't expect the world."
Word for word as I had what I already knew at hand. Take it or leave it as you will from someone who hasn't defragged a drive and works with a bunch of geeks who also haven't don so in a decade (or more). However, I HAVE installed a clean version of windows MANY a time.
spapad wrote:
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:11:47 PM
I save only porn clips.................. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:01:25 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Get a mybook external drive and it has software that will automate most for you. However, while I OWN three, I only backup what I think is important enough to lose. My work files, my music, my Priest DVDs, photos. I still have the install discs for applications, Most I can just download again.
Simple thought. Should your system die tomorrow, what would you REALLY miss? I say, without question, that you should sit down and think about this eventuality (it WILL happen). Myself? I was once crushed when I lost all my progress in a video game. Sure, I could have installed the game again but the save files, no (Simpsons, if anyone cares! LOL?). Had I another copy of the save games, the game itself (massive files) were irrelevant as I still had the install cds. It was the data that was crucial. Back up your data, my friend. All I can say.
You even saw that I recentlly bought a webook (Acer Aspire One) because I travel so much. Losing my Macbook would be the end of the world to me as it is my main business machine. However, a $300 webbook, pfffff. Not so big a deal. 160GB harddrive and 6 hours battery life. I watch a lot of movies on it, IOW. Should it get stolen, someone better enjoy all the Lost in Space episodes I have on it! "Oh, the pain, the pain!"
spapad wrote:
So to reinstall My windows from the biginning, I would have to have all the crap on this PC backed up down to the smallest irritating game?
guidogodoy wrote:
For most people, that is usually the case (I qualify with "usually" as I am quite the hardcore user). The drive SHOULD outlive the board. However, as stated, I build machines all the time. My current is a monster. Always two harddrives (at least) set up in a RAID configuration and my latest gaming machine has a water-cooled heatsink. Just to say that I am not the typical "type a document" sort of person. I modded out my latest build with six fans. Put toggle switches in them to turn the fans off and on as needed (running games vs. email). Sounds like a small airplane taking off when I hit my fan-boosters! THAT is my "true" machine. Bleeding edge techology. I currently (and usually type) on my Macbook Pro. I have another machine upstairs that is just my multimedia server that beams stuff down to my television / stereo and yet another home build in my office at work. The way things go is if I upgrade any part of my main machine, I rotate down. The low-end always ends up in my office at work be it memory, hardrive, ram, motherboard.
To add to this, I service a lab of some 30 Macs. While I have seen motherboards and chips fry, it is rare. Harddrives, statistically, will go first. I have seen it at home, have seen it at work. Even overclocking a chip or memory won't kill them nowadays. Harddrives will fail. ALWAYS. Back up your crucial data, compadres. My office harddive is always the first to die as it is always the oldest.
Back to that defrag question, I have a good quote in hand: Maximum PC (do's and dont's):
"Myth: defragmenting your harddrive improves performance:
One of the most venerable suggestions for improving disk performance is to defragment your harddrive regularly. The science of defragging is sound: By putting all the bits of a file or application in sequential order on your drive, the drive should do less work [and spend less time] to access those files. Thus: faster performance. Well, in practice it's not really true. Today's hard drives are fast enought to make fragmentation largely irrelevant, and our benchmark tests have repeatedly borne this out: On moderately fragmented drives, defragmentation will offer nigligible to no performance increase. For seriously fragmented drives [think 40% or more], especially those runing XP or older OSes, defragmentation can help, but don't expect the world."
Word for word as I had what I already knew at hand. Take it or leave it as you will from someone who hasn't defragged a drive and works with a bunch of geeks who also haven't don so in a decade (or more). However, I HAVE installed a clean version of windows MANY a time.
spapad wrote:
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:01:25 PM
Get a mybook external drive and it has software that will automate most for you. However, while I OWN three, I only backup what I think is important enough to lose. My work files, my music, my Priest DVDs, photos. I still have the install discs for applications, Most I can just download again.
Simple thought. Should your system die tomorrow, what would you REALLY miss? I say, without question, that you should sit down and think about this eventuality (it WILL happen). Myself? I was once crushed when I lost all my progress in a video game. Sure, I could have installed the game again but the save files, no (Simpsons, if anyone cares! LOL?). Had I another copy of the save games, the game itself (massive files) were irrelevant as I still had the install cds. It was the data that was crucial. Back up your data, my friend. All I can say.
You even saw that I recentlly bought a webook (Acer Aspire One) because I travel so much. Losing my Macbook would be the end of the world to me as it is my main business machine. However, a $300 webbook, pfffff. Not so big a deal. 160GB harddrive and 6 hours battery life. I watch a lot of movies on it, IOW. Should it get stolen, someone better enjoy all the Lost in Space episodes I have on it! "Oh, the pain, the pain!" [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:46:24 PM)
spapad wrote:
So to reinstall My windows from the biginning, I would have to have all the crap on this PC backed up down to the smallest irritating game?
guidogodoy wrote:
For most people, that is usually the case (I qualify with "usually" as I am quite the hardcore user). The drive SHOULD outlive the board. However, as stated, I build machines all the time. My current is a monster. Always two harddrives (at least) set up in a RAID configuration and my latest gaming machine has a water-cooled heatsink. Just to say that I am not the typical "type a document" sort of person. I modded out my latest build with six fans. Put toggle switches in them to turn the fans off and on as needed (running games vs. email). Sounds like a small airplane taking off when I hit my fan-boosters! THAT is my "true" machine. Bleeding edge techology. I currently (and usually type) on my Macbook Pro. I have another machine upstairs that is just my multimedia server that beams stuff down to my television / stereo and yet another home build in my office at work. The way things go is if I upgrade any part of my main machine, I rotate down. The low-end always ends up in my office at work be it memory, hardrive, ram, motherboard.
To add to this, I service a lab of some 30 Macs. While I have seen motherboards and chips fry, it is rare. Harddrives, statistically, will go first. I have seen it at home, have seen it at work. Even overclocking a chip or memory won't kill them nowadays. Harddrives will fail. ALWAYS. Back up your crucial data, compadres. My office harddive is always the first to die as it is always the oldest.
Back to that defrag question, I have a good quote in hand: Maximum PC (do's and dont's):
"Myth: defragmenting your harddrive improves performance:
One of the most venerable suggestions for improving disk performance is to defragment your harddrive regularly. The science of defragging is sound: By putting all the bits of a file or application in sequential order on your drive, the drive should do less work [and spend less time] to access those files. Thus: faster performance. Well, in practice it's not really true. Today's hard drives are fast enought to make fragmentation largely irrelevant, and our benchmark tests have repeatedly borne this out: On moderately fragmented drives, defragmentation will offer nigligible to no performance increase. For seriously fragmented drives [think 40% or more], especially those runing XP or older OSes, defragmentation can help, but don't expect the world."
Word for word as I had what I already knew at hand. Take it or leave it as you will from someone who hasn't defragged a drive and works with a bunch of geeks who also haven't don so in a decade (or more). However, I HAVE installed a clean version of windows MANY a time.
spapad wrote:
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:46:24 PM
So to reinstall My windows from the biginning, I would have to have all the crap on this PC backed up down to the smallest irritating game? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:41:17 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
For most people, that is usually the case (I qualify with "usually" as I am quite the hardcore user). The drive SHOULD outlive the board. However, as stated, I build machines all the time. My current is a monster. Always two harddrives (at least) set up in a RAID configuration and my latest gaming machine has a water-cooled heatsink. Just to say that I am not the typical "type a document" sort of person. I modded out my latest build with six fans. Put toggle switches in them to turn the fans off and on as needed (running games vs. email). Sounds like a small airplane taking off when I hit my fan-boosters! THAT is my "true" machine. Bleeding edge techology. I currently (and usually type) on my Macbook Pro. I have another machine upstairs that is just my multimedia server that beams stuff down to my television / stereo and yet another home build in my office at work. The way things go is if I upgrade any part of my main machine, I rotate down. The low-end always ends up in my office at work be it memory, hardrive, ram, motherboard.
To add to this, I service a lab of some 30 Macs. While I have seen motherboards and chips fry, it is rare. Harddrives, statistically, will go first. I have seen it at home, have seen it at work. Even overclocking a chip or memory won't kill them nowadays. Harddrives will fail. ALWAYS. Back up your crucial data, compadres. My office harddive is always the first to die as it is always the oldest.
Back to that defrag question, I have a good quote in hand: Maximum PC (do's and dont's):
"Myth: defragmenting your harddrive improves performance:
One of the most venerable suggestions for improving disk performance is to defragment your harddrive regularly. The science of defragging is sound: By putting all the bits of a file or application in sequential order on your drive, the drive should do less work [and spend less time] to access those files. Thus: faster performance. Well, in practice it's not really true. Today's hard drives are fast enought to make fragmentation largely irrelevant, and our benchmark tests have repeatedly borne this out: On moderately fragmented drives, defragmentation will offer nigligible to no performance increase. For seriously fragmented drives [think 40% or more], especially those runing XP or older OSes, defragmentation can help, but don't expect the world."
Word for word as I had what I already knew at hand. Take it or leave it as you will from someone who hasn't defragged a drive and works with a bunch of geeks who also haven't don so in a decade (or more). However, I HAVE installed a clean version of windows MANY a time.
spapad wrote:
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:41:17 PM
For most people, that is usually the case (I qualify with "usually" as I am quite the hardcore user). The drive SHOULD outlive the board. However, as stated, I build machines all the time. My current is a monster. Always two harddrives (at least) set up in a RAID configuration and my latest gaming machine has a water-cooled heatsink. Just to say that I am not the typical "type a document" sort of person. I modded out my latest build with six fans. Put toggle switches in them to turn the fans off and on as needed (running games vs. email). Sounds like a small airplane taking off when I hit my fan-boosters! THAT is my "true" machine. Bleeding edge techology. I currently (and usually type) on my Macbook Pro. I have another machine upstairs that is just my multimedia server that beams stuff down to my television / stereo and yet another home build in my office at work. The way things go is if I upgrade any part of my main machine, I rotate down. The low-end always ends up in my office at work be it memory, hardrive, ram, motherboard.
To add to this, I service a lab of some 30 Macs. While I have seen motherboards and chips fry, it is rare. Harddrives, statistically, will go first. I have seen it at home, have seen it at work. Even overclocking a chip or memory won't kill them nowadays. Harddrives will fail. ALWAYS. Back up your crucial data, compadres. My office harddive is always the first to die as it is always the oldest.
Back to that defrag question, I have a good quote in hand: Maximum PC (do's and dont's):
"Myth: defragmenting your harddrive improves performance:
One of the most venerable suggestions for improving disk performance is to defragment your harddrive regularly. The science of defragging is sound: By putting all the bits of a file or application in sequential order on your drive, the drive should do less work [and spend less time] to access those files. Thus: faster performance. Well, in practice it's not really true. Today's hard drives are fast enought to make fragmentation largely irrelevant, and our benchmark tests have repeatedly borne this out: On moderately fragmented drives, defragmentation will offer nigligible to no performance increase. For seriously fragmented drives [think 40% or more], especially those runing XP or older OSes, defragmentation can help, but don't expect the world."
Word for word as I had what I already knew at hand. Take it or leave it as you will from someone who hasn't defragged a drive and works with a bunch of geeks who also haven't don so in a decade (or more). However, I HAVE installed a clean version of windows MANY a time. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:08:41 PM)
spapad wrote:
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:32:35 PM
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:30:05 PM)
a small mechanical device, as a knob or switch, esp. one whose name is not known or cannot be recalled; gadget: a row of widgets on the instrument panel.
a small mechanical device, as a knob or switch, esp. one whose name is not known or cannot be recalled; gadget: a row of widgets on the instrument panel.
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:26:55 PM
WIDGETS!!!! Bring me WIDGETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:24:16 PM
Yes, best keep that to yourself,........I wouldn't wanna get you started on the whirlybits! HA!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:19:53 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Of course! I also have a doohickey and a whatchamacallit......but I don't think we should discuss that in public. HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
spapad wrote:
Of course DF, it works right along with the thing-a-majiggy!(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:03:12 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Umm...'Scuse me....Little doo dad..Switch. Works whether on or off........
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:13:13 PM
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:19:53 PM
Of course! I also have a doohickey and a whatchamacallit......but I don't think we should discuss that in public. HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:12:55 PM)
spapad wrote:
Of course DF, it works right along with the thing-a-majiggy!(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:03:12 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Umm...'Scuse me....Little doo dad..Switch. Works whether on or off........
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:13:13 PM
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:12:55 PM
Of course DF, it works right along with the thing-a-majiggy
Deep Freeze wrote:
Umm...'Scuse me....Little doo dad..Switch. Works whether on or off........
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:13:13 PM
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:08:41 PM
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:03:12 PM
Umm...'Scuse me....Little doo dad..Switch. Works whether on or off........
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:45:04 PM)
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:57:29 PM
LMAO!! Don't tell me there's a Guidopedia now! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by adrianaec_88 from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:51:47 PM)
adrianaec_88 wrote:
Hi everyone, Guido, Spa, Freeze anyone else online? I'd like comment but I have now idea what you're talking about LOL, anyway good question the one Spa did? Guidopedia has the answer.....
[adrianaec_88] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:51:47 PM
Hi everyone, Guido, Spa, Freeze anyone else online? I'd like comment but I have now idea what you're talking about LOL, anyway good question the one Spa did? Guidopedia has the answer.....
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:47:21 PM
Kindly direct all tech problem questions to our newly created "computer problems" thread (where they will be summarily ignored! HAAAA!).
As for working on your computer, you'd laugh if you saw me now. I have three in front of me from pseudo-friends (ie. colleagues) who all need rebuilds of one type or another. I gotta learn to start charging. Then again, I have been saying THAT since I was a kid! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:40:20 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
So, will you come over and work on MY computer for me?? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK, a question; I have "Cricket" wireless. I have a little doo-dad ( high tech word) that I plug into the side of this thing and I have internet access. The little doo-dad has a switch on it. I have noticed that, whether I turn on this switch or not, I have internet. So, what the heck is it for???????????
guidogodoy wrote:
Of course, you'll do as you please and certainly no offense but does your son hold a degree in computer science, build computers and have 20+ years experience as a network admin / programmer?
I deal in quantifiable data that I can certainly back up with stats. Tell you what, benchmark your computer before a defrag and after. I can even tell you how to test if needed. The only time you will see even a marginal difference is when you have a completely fragmented harddrive. Even then, we are talking something like a 1-3% speed increase. Believe it or not, it is old-school thinking. A modern SATA harddrive MORE than compensates for the fragmentation.
On a similar note, NEVER defrag a USB / thumbdrive. I've seen that one before as well. Dumb idea. (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:10:49 PM)
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:38:07 PM
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:45:04 PM
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:40:53 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:40:53 PM
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:40:20 PM
So, will you come over and work on MY computer for me?? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK, a question; I have "Cricket" wireless. I have a little doo-dad ( high tech word) that I plug into the side of this thing and I have internet access. The little doo-dad has a switch on it. I have noticed that, whether I turn on this switch or not, I have internet. So, what the heck is it for??????????? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:36:13 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Of course, you'll do as you please and certainly no offense but does your son hold a degree in computer science, build computers and have 20+ years experience as a network admin / programmer?
I deal in quantifiable data that I can certainly back up with stats. Tell you what, benchmark your computer before a defrag and after. I can even tell you how to test if needed. The only time you will see even a marginal difference is when you have a completely fragmented harddrive. Even then, we are talking something like a 1-3% speed increase. Believe it or not, it is old-school thinking. A modern SATA harddrive MORE than compensates for the fragmentation.
On a similar note, NEVER defrag a USB / thumbdrive. I've seen that one before as well. Dumb idea. (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:10:49 PM)
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:38:07 PM
[_strat_] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:38:51 PM
That would be "Geek"... Not "Greek". [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:26:08 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:36:13 PM
Of course, you'll do as you please and certainly no offense but does your son hold a degree in computer science, build computers and have 20+ years experience as a network admin / programmer?
I deal in quantifiable data that I can certainly back up with stats. Tell you what, benchmark your computer before a defrag and after. I can even tell you how to test if needed. The only time you will see even a marginal difference is when you have a completely fragmented harddrive. Even then, we are talking something like a 1-3% speed increase. Believe it or not, it is old-school thinking. A modern SATA harddrive MORE than compensates for the fragmentation.
On a similar note, NEVER defrag a USB / thumbdrive. I've seen that one before as well. Dumb idea. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:10:49 PM)
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:38:07 PM
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:26:08 PM
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
[Necroticist] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:10:49 PM
..U continually amaze me....not listening tho..son says different..sorry... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:59:43 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:59:43 AM
Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon). [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:04:15 AM)
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:40:30 AM
you can generate electricity cleanly? hydro, nope, kills billions of trees. coal, oil, gas, well... nuclear.. the closest, except for the waste.
besides, find one electric car you can get here with [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:38:41 AM)
Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote:
YOU HAVE HEARD OF ELECTRIC CARS?...OH,I FORGOT ALBERTA?,CLEAN ENERGY?,SORRY,MY BLUNDER!
Head banger wrote:
fox, sure they have the simpsons, right? actualy my fav is the food network or tsn, but the CBC does hockey well
if we shut down the tar sands, how you gonna drive out here?
Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote:
AWWWWWWWW COME ON HB,LAY OFF THE CBC,IT'S A GOOD NETWORK,MUST YOU BE SO NEGATIVE?,WHAT,I SUPPOSE YOU WATCH THAT IDIOT 'FOX' NETWORK!...YOU WANNA DO SOMETHING GREAT FOR OUR COUNTRY,SHUT DOWN THAT STINKING TAR SANDS! ... IF WE START GETTIN' ANY ODOUR HERE,WE'RE COMIN' OUT THERE TO CLOSE IT DOWN!
Head banger wrote:
so, soy is waiting for the comunist broadcasting network to do the one thing they do well, hockey. anyone else got plans?
Bev wrote:
Morning!
[Soylentgreen4u] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:38:41 AM
YOU HAVE HEARD OF ELECTRIC CARS?...OH,I FORGOT ALBERTA?,CLEAN ENERGY?,SORRY,MY BLUNDER! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:22:51 AM)
Head banger wrote:
fox, sure they have the simpsons, right? actualy my fav is the food network or tsn, but the CBC does hockey well
if we shut down the tar sands, how you gonna drive out here?
Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote:
AWWWWWWWW COME ON HB,LAY OFF THE CBC,IT'S A GOOD NETWORK,MUST YOU BE SO NEGATIVE?,WHAT,I SUPPOSE YOU WATCH THAT IDIOT 'FOX' NETWORK!...YOU WANNA DO SOMETHING GREAT FOR OUR COUNTRY,SHUT DOWN THAT STINKING TAR SANDS! ... IF WE START GETTIN' ANY ODOUR HERE,WE'RE COMIN' OUT THERE TO CLOSE IT DOWN!
Head banger wrote:
so, soy is waiting for the comunist broadcasting network to do the one thing they do well, hockey. anyone else got plans?
Bev wrote:
Morning!
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:38:02 AM
alrighty then, done with stupid forms, now just got to load bottles.
later all
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:27:15 AM
carbon capture and storage, (CCS) was discussed extensivly between obama and harper on the last visit. think tectonics would be ok, given the distance to the nearest fault line.
I'm sure there is a way to extract without further damage to the environment. I"m sure someone is researching. I wonder if there is a way to redirect back into the earth, instead of into the atmosphere without accelerating tectonic activity? hm?
I'm gone for a while.
Have a good day all!
Head banger wrote:
damn must have deleted the whole recipit
from memory, have never done this, but it sounds good
take half cup of corn kernals
quarter cup each of diced red pepers and red onions
1 clove garlic
saute onions till soft, add corn and pepers, saute for 2 minutes
take 2 sheets of parchment paper, use own judgment for size, see directions
fold each sheet in half. in the center of the half sheet spoon half the corn mixture. place filet on top, season with Salt and white peper.
splash of white wine on top (probably before salt)
fold paper over, and seal the seams with multiple folds
bake at 350 for 15 minutes, serve sealed, and alow the guest to open for a different presentation. or open and replate for convenience. seal should be tight, and fish and vegies steam together.
if that fails, find a halibut recipit and substitute talapia
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:22:51 AM
fox, sure they have the simpsons, right? actualy my fav is the food network or tsn, but the CBC does hockey well
if we shut down the tar sands, how you gonna drive out here? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:18:39 AM)
Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote:
AWWWWWWWW COME ON HB,LAY OFF THE CBC,IT'S A GOOD NETWORK,MUST YOU BE SO NEGATIVE?,WHAT,I SUPPOSE YOU WATCH THAT IDIOT 'FOX' NETWORK!...YOU WANNA DO SOMETHING GREAT FOR OUR COUNTRY,SHUT DOWN THAT STINKING TAR SANDS! ... IF WE START GETTIN' ANY ODOUR HERE,WE'RE COMIN' OUT THERE TO CLOSE IT DOWN!
Head banger wrote:
so, soy is waiting for the comunist broadcasting network to do the one thing they do well, hockey. anyone else got plans?
Bev wrote:
Morning!
[Bev] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:22:43 AM
Thanks.
I'm sure there is a way to extract without further damage to the environment. I"m sure someone is researching. I wonder if there is a way to redirect back into the earth, instead of into the atmosphere without accelerating tectonic activity? hm?
from memory, have never done this, but it sounds good
take half cup of corn kernals
quarter cup each of diced red pepers and red onions
1 clove garlic
saute onions till soft, add corn and pepers, saute for 2 minutes
take 2 sheets of parchment paper, use own judgment for size, see directions
fold each sheet in half. in the center of the half sheet spoon half the corn mixture. place filet on top, season with Salt and white peper.
splash of white wine on top (probably before salt)
fold paper over, and seal the seams with multiple folds
bake at 350 for 15 minutes, serve sealed, and alow the guest to open for a different presentation. or open and replate for convenience. seal should be tight, and fish and vegies steam together.
if that fails, find a halibut recipit and substitute talapia
[Soylentgreen4u] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:18:39 AM
AWWWWWWWW COME ON HB,LAY OFF THE CBC,IT'S A GOOD NETWORK,MUST YOU BE SO NEGATIVE?,WHAT,I SUPPOSE YOU WATCH THAT IDIOT 'FOX' NETWORK!...YOU WANNA DO SOMETHING GREAT FOR OUR COUNTRY,SHUT DOWN THAT STINKING TAR SANDS! ... IF WE START GETTIN' ANY ODOUR HERE,WE'RE COMIN' OUT THERE TO CLOSE IT DOWN! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:52:28 AM)
Head banger wrote:
so, soy is waiting for the comunist broadcasting network to do the one thing they do well, hockey. anyone else got plans?
Bev wrote:
Morning!
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:16:31 AM
damn must have deleted the whole recipit
from memory, have never done this, but it sounds good
take half cup of corn kernals
quarter cup each of diced red pepers and red onions
1 clove garlic
saute onions till soft, add corn and pepers, saute for 2 minutes
take 2 sheets of parchment paper, use own judgment for size, see directions
fold each sheet in half. in the center of the half sheet spoon half the corn mixture. place filet on top, season with Salt and white peper.
splash of white wine on top (probably before salt)
fold paper over, and seal the seams with multiple folds
bake at 350 for 15 minutes, serve sealed, and alow the guest to open for a different presentation. or open and replate for convenience. seal should be tight, and fish and vegies steam together.
if that fails, find a halibut recipit and substitute talapia
[Bev] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:13:00 AM
Fluffy whitefish ... get ahold of a good recipe, prolly a basic butter, herb, maybe wine, bath. Its been a while.
HB let me know what you find, K
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:10:01 AM
badminton? had forgoten its existance.
curling, nope, althought the canadian championships are in Calgary sometime soon. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:08:47 AM)
Bev wrote:
So you'll be watching curling, or badminton, then! Sounds like a fun afternoon.
I am a glutten. One of my favorite challenges as treasurer, with only basic book keeping knowledge and zero 990 tax experience, was to see how many reports I could file without asking for help. I'm into self torture if you hadn't noticed
Head banger wrote:
well, finish up these stupid tax forms. only a government could design such an unfriendly system, using acrobat no less. waiting for one person to phone me their social insurance number.
finish taking back the bottles. need to do beter on that. made 2 trips this week, brought in $100 so far. one more load should do it. and see if I can get the old pc working.
soy for pm, humm. well, we would save on flying the current pm back and forth all the time.
if I get time, perhaps watch the comunists talk about the real sport
Bev wrote:
That Soy! I'm waiting for the aliens to come back and reclaim him. That or his name will appear on the next Canadian PM ballot?! LOL
We were s'posed to have a car wash. Let Harley drive down to location, waited around a few minutes, watched a trucker move his trailer over the axles, came home and found an email that says car wash is cancelled. So, no plans.
You?
Head banger wrote:
so, soy is waiting for the comunist broadcasting network to do the one thing they do well, hockey. anyone else got plans?
Bev wrote:
Morning!
[Bev] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:08:47 AM
So you'll be watching curling, or badminton, then! Sounds like a fun afternoon.
I am a glutten. One of my favorite challenges as treasurer, with only basic book keeping knowledge and zero 990 tax experience, was to see how many reports I could file without asking for help. I'm into self torture if you hadn't noticed [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:01:58 AM)
Head banger wrote:
well, finish up these stupid tax forms. only a government could design such an unfriendly system, using acrobat no less. waiting for one person to phone me their social insurance number.
finish taking back the bottles. need to do beter on that. made 2 trips this week, brought in $100 so far. one more load should do it. and see if I can get the old pc working.
soy for pm, humm. well, we would save on flying the current pm back and forth all the time.
if I get time, perhaps watch the comunists talk about the real sport
Bev wrote:
That Soy! I'm waiting for the aliens to come back and reclaim him. That or his name will appear on the next Canadian PM ballot?! LOL
We were s'posed to have a car wash. Let Harley drive down to location, waited around a few minutes, watched a trucker move his trailer over the axles, came home and found an email that says car wash is cancelled. So, no plans.
You?
Head banger wrote:
so, soy is waiting for the comunist broadcasting network to do the one thing they do well, hockey. anyone else got plans?
Bev wrote:
Morning!
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:08:14 AM
is a white fish. hang on got one. anyone know the cooking method en papilote? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:04:15 AM)
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[Necroticist] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:04:15 AM
Talapia? new word to me..where from? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:02:26 AM)
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:01:58 AM
well, finish up these stupid tax forms. only a government could design such an unfriendly system, using acrobat no less. waiting for one person to phone me their social insurance number.
finish taking back the bottles. need to do beter on that. made 2 trips this week, brought in $100 so far. one more load should do it. and see if I can get the old pc working.
soy for pm, humm. well, we would save on flying the current pm back and forth all the time.
if I get time, perhaps watch the comunists talk about the real sport [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:55:33 AM)
Bev wrote:
That Soy! I'm waiting for the aliens to come back and reclaim him. That or his name will appear on the next Canadian PM ballot?! LOL
We were s'posed to have a car wash. Let Harley drive down to location, waited around a few minutes, watched a trucker move his trailer over the axles, came home and found an email that says car wash is cancelled. So, no plans.
You?
Head banger wrote:
so, soy is waiting for the comunist broadcasting network to do the one thing they do well, hockey. anyone else got plans?
Bev wrote:
Morning!
[Necroticist] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:57:43 AM
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[Bev] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:55:33 AM
That Soy! I'm waiting for the aliens to come back and reclaim him. That or his name will appear on the next Canadian PM ballot?! LOL
We were s'posed to have a car wash. Let Harley drive down to location, waited around a few minutes, watched a trucker move his trailer over the axles, came home and found an email that says car wash is cancelled. So, no plans.
You? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:52:28 AM)
Head banger wrote:
so, soy is waiting for the comunist broadcasting network to do the one thing they do well, hockey. anyone else got plans?
Bev wrote:
Morning!
[Necroticist] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:55:11 AM
Ya..we got seperated in the crowd...both wasted..lol - he's good....off at his ma's today... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:53:12 AM)
Bev wrote:
LOL ... was reading posts yesterday. Glad you and son had a good time on his bday (got a visual about serving cake to bikers, hysterical); also glad you found him safe and "sound asleep" ; )
Necroticist wrote:
Soz - that sounded bad...i apologise...hi HB and Bev..who i have not spoken to in ages..
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:53:43 AM
Soz - that sounded bad...i apologise...hi HB and Bev..who i have not spoken to in ages..
[Necroticist] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:53:36 AM
I know nada about Mac...working on 'Frankenputer' tho...is getting good...just need to install few more bits, maybe change case...
[Bev] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:53:12 AM
LOL ... was reading posts yesterday. Glad you and son had a good time on his bday (got a visual about serving cake to bikers, hysterical); also glad you found him safe and "sound asleep" ; ) [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:51:41 AM)
Necroticist wrote:
Soz - that sounded bad...i apologise...hi HB and Bev..who i have not spoken to in ages..
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:52:28 AM
so, soy is waiting for the comunist broadcasting network to do the one thing they do well, hockey. anyone else got plans? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:49:05 AM)
Bev wrote:
Morning!
[Necroticist] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:51:41 AM
Soz - that sounded bad...i apologise...hi HB and Bev..who i have not spoken to in ages..
[Bev] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:50:52 AM
Thanks, Necro. Yeah, people are gonna do what they believe they need to do. It's all good.
I am really thinking my next PC purchase will be a Mac. Expensive. But they are secure by default, and relatively easy to use. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:48:16 AM)
Necroticist wrote:
Hey..was just keeping y'all on the 'up'...deal with it ur own way....
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:50:16 AM
all help or atempts welcome, just discussing. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:48:16 AM)
Necroticist wrote:
Hey..was just keeping y'all on the 'up'...deal with it ur own way....
[Bev] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:49:05 AM
Morning!
[Necroticist] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:48:16 AM
Hey..was just keeping y'all on the 'up'...deal with it ur own way....
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:45:25 AM
yeah, with us all offline, what to do? Norton just scaned my laptop, no issues. cant add any programs, they frown on that. but it usualy catches any issues.
I'm with Phantom on this one. It happened to me also. But I remember Adri mention the a/v system change, and admin has been by recently. I didn't think much of it. My security stays pretty current. Just something new we have to adjust to, I believe. I could be wrong.
I really don't think the most respected member had anything to do with it. He plays games. But if we were all disabled, there wouldn't be anyone for him to harass - LOL
(ps ... JD, I think we all know you are not the same as "the most respected member") Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:41:07 AM
[Bev] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:37:41 AM
I'm with Phantom on this one. It happened to me also. But I remember Adri mention the a/v system change, and admin has been by recently. I didn't think much of it. My security stays pretty current. Just something new we have to adjust to, I believe. I could be wrong.
I really don't think the most respected member had anything to do with it. He plays games. But if we were all disabled, there wouldn't be anyone for him to harass - LOL
(ps ... JD, I think we all know you are not the same as "the most respected member") Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:41:07 AM
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:10:03 AM
Well, looks like we all have about 10 ways of scanning built in already! We treat our computers like mini Fort Knox's these days, and with the amount of identity theft etc... out there you can never be TOO careful!
[Soylentgreen4u] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:01:05 AM
AVG,PBA,CBC,CTV....NORTON HEARS A WHO...SPY BLOCKER,SHMY BLOCKER....I CAN STILL SEE YOU!... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by MG_Metalgoddess from Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:44:02 AM)
MG_Metalgoddess wrote:
LOL... Yeah I have like 3 diff programs.. avg, norton, and one through windows.. Plus a spy blocker now, and a phising scam one... lol...
HUgs MG~
Necroticist wrote:
As long as u all safe = am happy...i use avast! anti virus, but spybot 1.6.2. picked this one up. sly lil programme...
[Necroticist] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:00:08 AM
AVG is good...in polls tho Avast! won hands down....i love it [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by MG_Metalgoddess from Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:57:24 AM)
MG_Metalgoddess wrote:
Yeah norton is pretty slow.. too. AVG Runs the best for my system... :)
Necroticist wrote:
Nice..but Norton slows ya system down...
MG_Metalgoddess wrote:
LOL... Yeah I have like 3 diff programs.. avg, norton, and one through windows.. Plus a spy blocker now, and a phising scam one... lol...
HUgs MG~
Necroticist wrote:
As long as u all safe = am happy...i use avast! anti virus, but spybot 1.6.2. picked this one up. sly lil programme...
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:57:24 AM
Yeah norton is pretty slow.. too. AVG Runs the best for my system... :) [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:45:09 AM)
Necroticist wrote:
Nice..but Norton slows ya system down...
MG_Metalgoddess wrote:
LOL... Yeah I have like 3 diff programs.. avg, norton, and one through windows.. Plus a spy blocker now, and a phising scam one... lol...
HUgs MG~
Necroticist wrote:
As long as u all safe = am happy...i use avast! anti virus, but spybot 1.6.2. picked this one up. sly lil programme...
[Necroticist] Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:48:30 AM
K - done
[Necroticist] Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:45:57 AM
As long as u all safe = am happy...i use avast! anti virus, but spybot 1.6.2. picked this one up. sly lil programme...
[Necroticist] Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:40:48 AM
As long as u all safe = am happy...i use avast! anti virus, but spybot 1.6.2. picked this one up. sly lil programme...
[ron h] Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:39:20 AM
Thanks for the heads up Necro!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:09:30 AM)
Necroticist wrote:
Notice - as i attempted to join JP boards = instant virus alert...i have a high protection set up - i suggest u all scan or w/e...is a trojan lurking there somewhere...
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:37:33 AM
Scanning puter right now... LOL
[Phantom A6] Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:30:48 AM
Same here in the morning. My virus scanner has identified and deleted him. It was not a real virus, was a file to synchronised video and audio files for up- and downloads. Some virus scanner identified files like this as trojan horses. To many postings of this "YouTube" stuff!! Copy the link, that's better!!
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:25:17 AM
YES Mine did the same thing.. with the virus alert... Geesh.. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:23:43 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Thanks, Necro. I had it, too. My computer isolated it and removed it. I was confused at to what it was and how I got it until you said that. Thanks, again!
Necroticist wrote:
Notice - as i attempted to join JP boards = instant virus alert...i have a high protection set up - i suggest u all scan or w/e...is a trojan lurking there somewhere...
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:23:43 AM
Thanks, Necro. I had it, too. My computer isolated it and removed it. I was confused as to what it was and how I got it until you said that. Thanks, again!
Notice - as i attempted to join JP boards = instant virus alert...i have a high protection set up - i suggest u all scan or w/e...is a trojan lurking there somewhere...
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:28:18 AM
[Necroticist] Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:09:30 AM
Notice - as i attempted to join JP boards = instant virus alert...i have a high protection set up - i suggest u all scan or w/e...is a trojan lurking there somewhere...
[ron h] Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:43:09 AM
Hi MS...Metalogy disc 1...got up pretty early this morning and have already listen to Nostradamus...only have a 5 disc changer and have to leave out disc 4...I can think of worse ways to wake up...Never Satisfied is on now...awesome solo!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Maple Syrup from Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:26:17 AM)
Maple Syrup wrote:
Ron: Whatcha got? I just p/u Dortmund 83 on audio. Freewheel Burning & Victim are the standouts...
[Maple Syrup] Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:26:17 AM
Ron: Whatcha got? I just p/u Dortmund 83 on audio. Freewheel Burning & Victim are the standouts...
[ron h] Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:06:29 AM
Morning folks...a cold and snowy day in the forecast...but it's never too early to turn the Priest up!!!
[scorpion01] Friday, February 20, 2009 9:42:46 PM
WELL I GOT THROUGH MY WORKOUT (GREAT STRESS RELEASE), THE SAUNA AND DINNER(BLACKENED SALMON AND A SWEET POTATO). NEXT A SHOWER AN BEER SOME PRIEST AND A LATE NIGHT MOVIE AND I'M THERE. AAAAHHH LIFE CAN BE GOOD!
[Bev] Friday, February 20, 2009 8:41:29 PM
Congrats !!! Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo close to 20K!
He's been married 3 times. I should have listened to him in the beginning, neither here nor there now.
I am worth a much better quality of life. The only way to get it, is to get it myself. With the help of a few friends along the way, and a strong personal committment to self, I have endured. The men that I have had the distinct honor of coming to know on this board are part of what has kept my faith in men alive, and part of the reason I stuck it out. Spouse and I are not close, in the partner dept., that part is dead and gone some 5 years now. After last night, I am hoping that when he moves into the townhouse nextdoor, we can all be civil, if for not other reason than to see our son successfully through school. Then I will be moving to a different state with only what I brought into this relationship.
But this is old news for some here. So enough of that ...
Cheers to the good life! I'm off to scavenge more pics ... lol [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Friday, February 20, 2009 6:36:42 PM)
ronhartsell wrote:
I'm happy for you, I know how that can be...I'm a 2 time loser myself...first one tried to drag me through the mud, but the second pretty much got her way...no kid's of mine in the first, which was the difference...any time it can be worked out, it's for the best for all...it's good he came around!!
Bev wrote:
Had a breakthrough with soon to be ex during his birthday dinner, yesterday. He actually opened up about his personal life, and acknowledged where he's been spending the nights he hasn't been home. I usually only get a text message the following morning, that he's "on the boat". 'Course he was discovered two years ago. But it took this long for him to come to terms with the fact I wasn't gonna drag him through a nasty divorce, take half of everything he's worked his life for, etc. And that we can actually work this out to everyone's benefit. So my day has been unusually low on the stress meter! ... for however long it lasts : )
ronhartsell wrote:
Well Bev, I definately had a better day than HB did...lol, off today and had to play catch-up on some running around...how about yourself??
Bev wrote:
I was gonna sound off about this reply ... but, sometimes it's best that a friend keep quiet.
I will say, there is more to people than what they present of themselves here on the board.
So, how was your day, Ron?
ronhartsell wrote:
Sounds like you're having a crappy day HB...well, it is for your wife...lol
Head banger wrote:
all could be well, come over and fill in these stupid forms.
ronhartsell wrote:
Hey everyone, hope all's well...good to see you're up and about DF!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry I missed THAT exchange! I had to run out. Bev, thanks for the kindness! Always a pleasure.
MM is very busy with his work and all. He tells me he just does not have the time to come in and chat. I suppose that is a good thing, but the selfish part of me wishes he could find the time....
[ron h] Friday, February 20, 2009 6:36:42 PM
I'm happy for you, I know how that can be...I'm a 2 time loser myself...first one tried to drag me through the mud, but the second pretty much got her way...no kid's of mine in the first, which was the difference...any time it can be worked out, it's for the best for all...it's good he came around!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Friday, February 20, 2009 6:23:09 PM)
Bev wrote:
Had a breakthrough with soon to be ex during his birthday dinner, yesterday. He actually opened up about his personal life, and acknowledged where he's been spending the nights he hasn't been home. I usually only get a text message the following morning, that he's "on the boat". 'Course he was discovered two years ago. But it took this long for him to come to terms with the fact I wasn't gonna drag him through a nasty divorce, take half of everything he's worked his life for, etc. And that we can actually work this out to everyone's benefit. So my day has been unusually low on the stress meter! ... for however long it lasts : )
ronhartsell wrote:
Well Bev, I definately had a better day than HB did...lol, off today and had to play catch-up on some running around...how about yourself??
Bev wrote:
I was gonna sound off about this reply ... but, sometimes it's best that a friend keep quiet.
I will say, there is more to people than what they present of themselves here on the board.
So, how was your day, Ron?
ronhartsell wrote:
Sounds like you're having a crappy day HB...well, it is for your wife...lol
Head banger wrote:
all could be well, come over and fill in these stupid forms.
ronhartsell wrote:
Hey everyone, hope all's well...good to see you're up and about DF!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry I missed THAT exchange! I had to run out. Bev, thanks for the kindness! Always a pleasure.
MM is very busy with his work and all. He tells me he just does not have the time to come in and chat. I suppose that is a good thing, but the selfish part of me wishes he could find the time....
well all, have a great night., I will see you all tomorow
[spapad] Friday, February 20, 2009 6:23:48 PM
Night HB, don't drive yourself crazy with all the monies! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Friday, February 20, 2009 6:20:50 PM)
Head banger wrote:
well all, have a great night., I will see you all tomorow
[Bev] Friday, February 20, 2009 6:23:09 PM
Had a breakthrough with soon to be ex during his birthday dinner, yesterday. He actually opened up about his personal life, and acknowledged where he's been spending the nights he hasn't been home. I usually only get a text message the following morning, that he's "on the boat". 'Course he was discovered two years ago. But it took this long for him to come to terms with the fact I wasn't gonna drag him through a nasty divorce, take half of everything he's worked his life for, etc. And that we can actually work this out to everyone's benefit. So my day has been unusually low on the stress meter! ... for however long it lasts : ) [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Friday, February 20, 2009 6:14:54 PM)
ronhartsell wrote:
Well Bev, I definately had a better day than HB did...lol, off today and had to play catch-up on some running around...how about yourself??
Bev wrote:
I was gonna sound off about this reply ... but, sometimes it's best that a friend keep quiet.
I will say, there is more to people than what they present of themselves here on the board.
So, how was your day, Ron?
ronhartsell wrote:
Sounds like you're having a crappy day HB...well, it is for your wife...lol
Head banger wrote:
all could be well, come over and fill in these stupid forms.
ronhartsell wrote:
Hey everyone, hope all's well...good to see you're up and about DF!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry I missed THAT exchange! I had to run out. Bev, thanks for the kindness! Always a pleasure.
MM is very busy with his work and all. He tells me he just does not have the time to come in and chat. I suppose that is a good thing, but the selfish part of me wishes he could find the time....
[Head banger] Friday, February 20, 2009 6:20:50 PM
well all, have a great night., I will see you all tomorow
[Head banger] Friday, February 20, 2009 6:17:07 PM
nope. I gave it up not long after, went out. took back some of my can and bottle colection. should be able to pay for dinner now. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Friday, February 20, 2009 6:12:40 PM)
Bev wrote:
Hope I didn't embarrass you HB. Apologies if I did.
Head banger wrote:
ah well. left it, she is missing some info. sigh.
ronhartsell wrote:
Sounds like you're having a crappy day HB...well, it is for your wife...lol
Head banger wrote:
all could be well, come over and fill in these stupid forms.
ronhartsell wrote:
Hey everyone, hope all's well...good to see you're up and about DF!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry I missed THAT exchange! I had to run out. Bev, thanks for the kindness! Always a pleasure.
MM is very busy with his work and all. He tells me he just does not have the time to come in and chat. I suppose that is a good thing, but the selfish part of me wishes he could find the time....
[ron h] Friday, February 20, 2009 6:14:54 PM
Well Bev, I definately had a better day than HB did...lol, off today and had to play catch-up on some running around...how about yourself?? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Friday, February 20, 2009 5:37:50 PM)
Bev wrote:
I was gonna sound off about this reply ... but, sometimes it's best that a friend keep quiet.
I will say, there is more to people than what they present of themselves here on the board.
So, how was your day, Ron?
ronhartsell wrote:
Sounds like you're having a crappy day HB...well, it is for your wife...lol
Head banger wrote:
all could be well, come over and fill in these stupid forms.
ronhartsell wrote:
Hey everyone, hope all's well...good to see you're up and about DF!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry I missed THAT exchange! I had to run out. Bev, thanks for the kindness! Always a pleasure.
MM is very busy with his work and all. He tells me he just does not have the time to come in and chat. I suppose that is a good thing, but the selfish part of me wishes he could find the time....
[Bev] Friday, February 20, 2009 6:12:40 PM
Hope I didn't embarrass you HB. Apologies if I did. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Friday, February 20, 2009 5:39:36 PM)
Head banger wrote:
ah well. left it, she is missing some info. sigh.
ronhartsell wrote:
Sounds like you're having a crappy day HB...well, it is for your wife...lol
Head banger wrote:
all could be well, come over and fill in these stupid forms.
ronhartsell wrote:
Hey everyone, hope all's well...good to see you're up and about DF!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry I missed THAT exchange! I had to run out. Bev, thanks for the kindness! Always a pleasure.
MM is very busy with his work and all. He tells me he just does not have the time to come in and chat. I suppose that is a good thing, but the selfish part of me wishes he could find the time....
[Head banger] Friday, February 20, 2009 5:39:36 PM
ah well. left it, she is missing some info. sigh. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Friday, February 20, 2009 5:15:06 PM)
ronhartsell wrote:
Sounds like you're having a crappy day HB...well, it is for your wife...lol
Head banger wrote:
all could be well, come over and fill in these stupid forms.
ronhartsell wrote:
Hey everyone, hope all's well...good to see you're up and about DF!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry I missed THAT exchange! I had to run out. Bev, thanks for the kindness! Always a pleasure.
MM is very busy with his work and all. He tells me he just does not have the time to come in and chat. I suppose that is a good thing, but the selfish part of me wishes he could find the time....
[Bev] Friday, February 20, 2009 5:37:50 PM
I was gonna sound off about this reply ... but, sometimes it's best that a friend keep quiet.
I will say, there is more to people than what they present of themselves here on the board.
Sounds like you're having a crappy day HB...well, it is for your wife...lol
Head banger wrote:
all could be well, come over and fill in these stupid forms.
ronhartsell wrote:
Hey everyone, hope all's well...good to see you're up and about DF!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry I missed THAT exchange! I had to run out. Bev, thanks for the kindness! Always a pleasure.
MM is very busy with his work and all. He tells me he just does not have the time to come in and chat. I suppose that is a good thing, but the selfish part of me wishes he could find the time....
[Becks] Friday, February 20, 2009 5:33:14 PM
Just reading a review of Iron Maidens first concert in New Zealand in 16 years, here's an exerpt that really stood out for me hehe:
"The triple axe attack of Adrian Smith, Dave Murray and Janick Gers were full of rock histrionics. The jump kicks and machine gun guitars were in effect and they really did give a lesson on how to put on an entertaining show that young bands would do well to heed."
Ain't that the truth!
[ron h] Friday, February 20, 2009 5:15:06 PM
Sounds like you're having a crappy day HB...well, it is for your wife...lol [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Friday, February 20, 2009 11:04:02 AM)
Head banger wrote:
all could be well, come over and fill in these stupid forms.
ronhartsell wrote:
Hey everyone, hope all's well...good to see you're up and about DF!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry I missed THAT exchange! I had to run out. Bev, thanks for the kindness! Always a pleasure.
MM is very busy with his work and all. He tells me he just does not have the time to come in and chat. I suppose that is a good thing, but the selfish part of me wishes he could find the time....
[scorpion01] Friday, February 20, 2009 2:12:41 PM
HELLO EVERYONE. THE AUDITORS ARE UT OF THE OFFICE AND I JUST SENT THEN THE LAST 3 ITEMS ON THEIR REQUEST LIST. I MAY GET MY LIFE BACK SOON.
AN HOUR OR SO AT HE GYM, MAYBE USE THE SAUNA, A NICE SHOWER DINNER AND A COLD BEER, AND SOME METAL SOUND GOOD FOR TONIGHT. (I CAN DREAM CAN'T I?)
[Necroticist] Friday, February 20, 2009 11:42:09 AM
K - have just created another culinary delight...will catch y'all later tonight...have fun.
[Head banger] Friday, February 20, 2009 11:16:35 AM
all could be well, come over and fill in these stupid forms.
ronhartsell wrote:
Hey everyone, hope all's well...good to see you're up and about DF!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry I missed THAT exchange! I had to run out. Bev, thanks for the kindness! Always a pleasure.
MM is very busy with his work and all. He tells me he just does not have the time to come in and chat. I suppose that is a good thing, but the selfish part of me wishes he could find the time....
[Head banger] Friday, February 20, 2009 11:04:02 AM
all could be well, come over and fill in these stupid forms. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Friday, February 20, 2009 10:55:14 AM)
ronhartsell wrote:
Hey everyone, hope all's well...good to see you're up and about DF!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry I missed THAT exchange! I had to run out. Bev, thanks for the kindness! Always a pleasure.
MM is very busy with his work and all. He tells me he just does not have the time to come in and chat. I suppose that is a good thing, but the selfish part of me wishes he could find the time....
[ron h] Friday, February 20, 2009 10:55:14 AM
Hey everyone, hope all's well...good to see you're up and about DF!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, February 20, 2009 10:33:38 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry I missed THAT exchange! I had to run out. Bev, thanks for the kindness! Always a pleasure.
MM is very busy with his work and all. He tells me he just does not have the time to come in and chat. I suppose that is a good thing, but the selfish part of me wishes he could find the time....
[Head banger] Friday, February 20, 2009 10:35:46 AM
missed that. doing year end payroll crap for wifes store. yay. not.
this is a pain in the ass. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Friday, February 20, 2009 10:22:12 AM)
Bev wrote:
K, that went over well.
All kidding aside, hope whatever he's dealing with, he is able to work through.
Guess I'll go find something productive to do, kill a couple of hours.
Good Friday to all!
[Deep Freeze] Friday, February 20, 2009 10:33:38 AM
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry I missed THAT exchange! I had to run out. Bev, thanks for the kindness! Always a pleasure.
MM is very busy with his work and all. He tells me he just does not have the time to come in and chat. I suppose that is a good thing, but the selfish part of me wishes he could find the time....
[Bev] Friday, February 20, 2009 10:22:12 AM
K, that went over well.
All kidding aside, hope whatever he's dealing with, he is able to work through.
Guess I'll go find something productive to do, kill a couple of hours.
ha. good idea. DF was he in that movie with you, you know the one you and obama made??? HA!!!!
Bev wrote:
I had a feeling it might be that the princess was still out of town. Good to read you out and about this morning, Freeze.
Does anyone have embarrassing pics of MM? I'll bet if we post 'em, he'll have something to say about it ... lol!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Good Morning, gang. Hope all are well. Feeling a little better today. Perhaps a lot of this is brought on by the absence of the Princess? She is still out of town (due back Sunday) and it is always a tough time for me whan she is gone.
Glad to see so much activity around here, though! Looks like we are all starting to get our "groove" back! That's great. I wish we could find a way to get MM back with us! Oh well, good to see you all!!!
[Head banger] Friday, February 20, 2009 10:04:34 AM
ha. good idea. DF was he in that movie with you, you know the one you and obama made??? HA!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Friday, February 20, 2009 10:03:18 AM)
Bev wrote:
I had a feeling it might be that the princess was still out of town. Good to read you out and about this morning, Freeze.
Does anyone have embarrassing pics of MM? I'll bet if we post 'em, he'll have something to say about it ... lol!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Good Morning, gang. Hope all are well. Feeling a little better today. Perhaps a lot of this is brought on by the absence of the Princess? She is still out of town (due back Sunday) and it is always a tough time for me whan she is gone.
Glad to see so much activity around here, though! Looks like we are all starting to get our "groove" back! That's great. I wish we could find a way to get MM back with us! Oh well, good to see you all!!!
[Bev] Friday, February 20, 2009 10:03:18 AM
I had a feeling it might be that the princess was still out of town. Good to read you out and about this morning, Freeze.
Does anyone have embarrassing pics of MM? I'll bet if we post 'em, he'll have something to say about it ... lol! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, February 20, 2009 8:28:13 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Good Morning, gang. Hope all are well. Feeling a little better today. Perhaps a lot of this is brought on by the absence of the Princess? She is still out of town (due back Sunday) and it is always a tough time for me whan she is gone.
Glad to see so much activity around here, though! Looks like we are all starting to get our "groove" back! That's great. I wish we could find a way to get MM back with us! Oh well, good to see you all!!!
[Deep Freeze] Friday, February 20, 2009 9:18:46 AM
Oh how I DO understand THAT!! My friend, this house is remarkably tranquil. And it is such for a very good reason; health. You know about my health issues and the Princess is just as bad with hers. There is just NO way we could survive in a home where there was a lot of activity or drama. We just could not. This place is quite often like a retirement home!! HA!!!! Seriously, we purposely have it that way. When we have company or a visit from her son or whatever, it makes for a very difficult time. We cherish our homelife. It is like treatment for our illnesses.
Once your son gets back out on his own, you and her ladyship will be fine. The quite, peaceful atmosphere will make ALL the difference. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Friday, February 20, 2009 9:13:02 AM)
Necroticist wrote:
Mine hit 21 yesterday - is considering moving in with 2 friends - flatshare thing - i can't wait...i need my peace..me and Deb get on so much better without all the stress.
Deep Freeze wrote:
I completely understand. The Princess' oldest is a major pain. He does not live with us any longer and has been thrown out of every place he has lived! It is so very difficult because you have the love for them but there comes a point where you must say, "enough". I feel for you, man. I firmly believe that the only way to get them to fly is to push them out and make them "flap their wings". Easier said than done, I know.
The problem with her oldest is, his dad has thrown money at him his whole life. He has not had to worry about anything. If he does not pay a bill, his dad just jumps in and does it. Car, insurance, etc. ALL paid by his dad. BIG mistake. Now we have a twenty year old child on our hands.
(Quoting Message by Necroticist from Friday, February 20, 2009 8:51:18 AM)
Necroticist wrote:
Hi there DF. No it gets harder the older he gets. Me and her ladyship got on SO well when he was off at Uni...he was only supposed to move back for a few weeks...has been years now...and the arguments!! He is so much like me it's a permanent personality clash. The day he moves out i'll throw a party...lol.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Ah Necro..aint parenthood grand?? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not a day goes by that I do not give thanks for the fact that my daughter is grown, married, has her own kids AND lives 300 miles away.....HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Necroticist wrote:
Afternoon all - not gonna be so 'metal' today as it's 2.40 pm and i just woke up..went celebrating the son's birthday last evening, lost him, and later realised he'd yook his bike out. Stayed up til around 6 AM trying to contact the shit.. Just looked in his room - he's there, sound asleep. Now am waiting to hear from his boss why he aint at work....then when it awakes i get to do one of my famous 'dad lectures'....hehe. (Glad he's safe tho..).
Edited at: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:06:59 AM
[Necroticist] Friday, February 20, 2009 9:13:02 AM
Mine hit 21 yesterday - is considering moving in with 2 friends - flatshare thing - i can't wait...i need my peace..me and Deb get on so much better without all the stress. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, February 20, 2009 9:05:07 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
I completely understand. The Princess' oldest is a major pain. He does not live with us any longer and has been thrown out of every place he has lived! It is so very difficult because you have the love for them but there comes a point where you must say, "enough". I feel for you, man. I firmly believe that the only way to get them to fly is to push them out and make them "flap their wings". Easier said than done, I know.
The problem with her oldest is, his dad has thrown money at him his whole life. He has not had to worry about anything. If he does not pay a bill, his dad just jumps in and does it. Car, insurance, etc. ALL paid by his dad. BIG mistake. Now we have a twenty year old child on our hands.
(Quoting Message by Necroticist from Friday, February 20, 2009 8:51:18 AM)
Necroticist wrote:
Hi there DF. No it gets harder the older he gets. Me and her ladyship got on SO well when he was off at Uni...he was only supposed to move back for a few weeks...has been years now...and the arguments!! He is so much like me it's a permanent personality clash. The day he moves out i'll throw a party...lol.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Ah Necro..aint parenthood grand?? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not a day goes by that I do not give thanks for the fact that my daughter is grown, married, has her own kids AND lives 300 miles away.....HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Necroticist wrote:
Afternoon all - not gonna be so 'metal' today as it's 2.40 pm and i just woke up..went celebrating the son's birthday last evening, lost him, and later realised he'd yook his bike out. Stayed up til around 6 AM trying to contact the shit.. Just looked in his room - he's there, sound asleep. Now am waiting to hear from his boss why he aint at work....then when it awakes i get to do one of my famous 'dad lectures'....hehe. (Glad he's safe tho..).
Edited at: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:06:59 AM
[Deep Freeze] Friday, February 20, 2009 9:05:07 AM
I completely understand. The Princess' oldest is a major pain. He does not live with us any longer and has been thrown out of every place he has lived! It is so very difficult because you have the love for them but there comes a point where you must say, "enough". I feel for you, man. I firmly believe that the only way to get them to fly is to push them out and make them "flap their wings". Easier said than done, I know.
The problem with her oldest is, his dad has thrown money at him his whole life. He has not had to worry about anything. If he does not pay a bill, his dad just jumps in and does it. Car, insurance, etc. ALL paid by his dad. BIG mistake. Now we have a twenty year old child on our hands.
Hi there DF. No it gets harder the older he gets. Me and her ladyship got on SO well when he was off at Uni...he was only supposed to move back for a few weeks...has been years now...and the arguments!! He is so much like me it's a permanent personality clash. The day he moves out i'll throw a party...lol.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Ah Necro..aint parenthood grand?? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not a day goes by that I do not give thanks for the fact that my daughter is grown, married, has her own kids AND lives 300 miles away.....HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Necroticist wrote:
Afternoon all - not gonna be so 'metal' today as it's 2.40 pm and i just woke up..went celebrating the son's birthday last evening, lost him, and later realised he'd yook his bike out. Stayed up til around 6 AM trying to contact the shit.. Just looked in his room - he's there, sound asleep. Now am waiting to hear from his boss why he aint at work....then when it awakes i get to do one of my famous 'dad lectures'....hehe. (Glad he's safe tho..).
Afternoon all - not gonna be so 'metal' today as it's 2.40 pm and i just woke up..went celebrating the son's birthday last evening, lost him, and later realised he'd yook his bike out. Stayed up til around 6 AM trying to contact the shit.. Just looked in his room - he's there, sound asleep. Now am waiting to hear from his boss why he aint at work....then when it awakes i get to do one of my famous 'dad lectures'....hehe. (Glad he's safe tho..).
[Necroticist] Friday, February 20, 2009 8:51:18 AM
Hi there DF. No it gets harder the older he gets. Me and her ladyship got on SO well when he was off at Uni...he was only supposed to move back for a few weeks...has been years now...and the arguments!! He is so much like me it's a permanent personality clash. The day he moves out i'll throw a party...lol. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, February 20, 2009 8:47:04 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Ah Necro..aint parenthood grand?? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not a day goes by that I do not give thanks for the fact that my daughter is grown, married, has her own kids AND lives 300 miles away.....HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Necroticist wrote:
Afternoon all - not gonna be so 'metal' today as it's 2.40 pm and i just woke up..went celebrating the son's birthday last evening, lost him, and later realised he'd yook his bike out. Stayed up til around 6 AM trying to contact the shit.. Just looked in his room - he's there, sound asleep. Now am waiting to hear from his boss why he aint at work....then when it awakes i get to do one of my famous 'dad lectures'....hehe. (Glad he's safe tho..).
[Deep Freeze] Friday, February 20, 2009 8:47:04 AM
Ah Necro..aint parenthood grand?? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not a day goes by that I do not give thanks for the fact that my daughter is grown, married, has her own kids AND lives 300 miles away.....HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Friday, February 20, 2009 8:44:10 AM)
Necroticist wrote:
Afternoon all - not gonna be so 'metal' today as it's 2.40 pm and i just woke up..went celebrating the son's birthday last evening, lost him, and later realised he'd yook his bike out. Stayed up til around 6 AM trying to contact the shit.. Just looked in his room - he's there, sound asleep. Now am waiting to hear from his boss why he aint at work....then when it awakes i get to do one of my famous 'dad lectures'....hehe. (Glad he's safe tho..).
It was my pleasure, my friend. As I said before, I am a HUGE fan of higher education. When you get to know me better, you will find that to be so. I will always support good students like you.
paorcamp wrote:
haha...thanks...but I was about to do it...jaja...but at least they gave me an answer...and tomorrow everything's gonna be as it sould...thanks for your support freeze...i really appreciate that
Deep Freeze wrote:
That's good. I am glad you did not burst into the Admin office and shoot the place up....HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It will all work out, my friend.
paorcamp wrote:
not yet...they told me to do everything as if normal...and that they'd check updates and other info today in the afternoon...so that they would have the results tomorrow
Deep Freeze wrote:
Thank you, pao!! How are things with you? Did you get things straightened out at school??
paorcamp wrote:
it's good to see that you're feeling better freeze...I hope you'll be back to normal soon
Deep Freeze wrote:
Good Morning, gang. Hope all are well. Feeling a little better today. Perhaps a lot of this is brought on by the absence of the Princess? She is still out of town (due back Sunday) and it is always a tough time for me whan she is gone.
Glad to see so much activity around here, though! Looks like we are all starting to get our "groove" back! That's great. I wish we could find a way to get MM back with us! Oh well, good to see you all!!!
[Necroticist] Friday, February 20, 2009 8:44:10 AM
Afternoon all - not gonna be so 'metal' today as it's 2.40 pm and i just woke up..went celebrating the son's birthday last evening, lost him, and later realised he'd yook his bike out. Stayed up til around 6 AM trying to contact the shit.. Just looked in his room - he's there, sound asleep. Now am waiting to hear from his boss why he aint at work....then when it awakes i get to do one of my famous 'dad lectures'....hehe. (Glad he's safe tho..).
[Deep Freeze] Friday, February 20, 2009 8:44:05 AM
It was my pleasure, my friend. As I said before, I am a HUGE fan of higher education. When you get to know me better, you will find that to be so. I will always support good students like you. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by paorcamp from Friday, February 20, 2009 8:41:06 AM)
paorcamp wrote:
haha...thanks...but I was about to do it...jaja...but at least they gave me an answer...and tomorrow everything's gonna be as it sould...thanks for your support freeze...i really appreciate that
Deep Freeze wrote:
That's good. I am glad you did not burst into the Admin office and shoot the place up....HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It will all work out, my friend.
paorcamp wrote:
not yet...they told me to do everything as if normal...and that they'd check updates and other info today in the afternoon...so that they would have the results tomorrow
Deep Freeze wrote:
Thank you, pao!! How are things with you? Did you get things straightened out at school??
paorcamp wrote:
it's good to see that you're feeling better freeze...I hope you'll be back to normal soon
Deep Freeze wrote:
Good Morning, gang. Hope all are well. Feeling a little better today. Perhaps a lot of this is brought on by the absence of the Princess? She is still out of town (due back Sunday) and it is always a tough time for me whan she is gone.
Glad to see so much activity around here, though! Looks like we are all starting to get our "groove" back! That's great. I wish we could find a way to get MM back with us! Oh well, good to see you all!!!
[paorcamp] Friday, February 20, 2009 8:41:06 AM
haha...thanks...but I was about to do it...jaja...but at least they gave me an answer...and tomorrow everything's gonna be as it sould...thanks for your support freeze...i really appreciate that [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, February 20, 2009 8:38:24 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
That's good. I am glad you did not burst into the Admin office and shoot the place up....HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It will all work out, my friend.
paorcamp wrote:
not yet...they told me to do everything as if normal...and that they'd check updates and other info today in the afternoon...so that they would have the results tomorrow
Deep Freeze wrote:
Thank you, pao!! How are things with you? Did you get things straightened out at school??
paorcamp wrote:
it's good to see that you're feeling better freeze...I hope you'll be back to normal soon
Deep Freeze wrote:
Good Morning, gang. Hope all are well. Feeling a little better today. Perhaps a lot of this is brought on by the absence of the Princess? She is still out of town (due back Sunday) and it is always a tough time for me whan she is gone.
Glad to see so much activity around here, though! Looks like we are all starting to get our "groove" back! That's great. I wish we could find a way to get MM back with us! Oh well, good to see you all!!!
[Deep Freeze] Friday, February 20, 2009 8:38:24 AM
That's good. I am glad you did not burst into the Admin office and shoot the place up....HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It will all work out, my friend. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by paorcamp from Friday, February 20, 2009 8:36:00 AM)
paorcamp wrote:
not yet...they told me to do everything as if normal...and that they'd check updates and other info today in the afternoon...so that they would have the results tomorrow
Deep Freeze wrote:
Thank you, pao!! How are things with you? Did you get things straightened out at school??
paorcamp wrote:
it's good to see that you're feeling better freeze...I hope you'll be back to normal soon
Deep Freeze wrote:
Good Morning, gang. Hope all are well. Feeling a little better today. Perhaps a lot of this is brought on by the absence of the Princess? She is still out of town (due back Sunday) and it is always a tough time for me whan she is gone.
Glad to see so much activity around here, though! Looks like we are all starting to get our "groove" back! That's great. I wish we could find a way to get MM back with us! Oh well, good to see you all!!!
[paorcamp] Friday, February 20, 2009 8:36:00 AM
not yet...they told me to do everything as if normal...and that they'd check updates and other info today in the afternoon...so that they would have the results tomorrow
Thank you, pao!! How are things with you? Did you get things straightened out at school??
paorcamp wrote:
it's good to see that you're feeling better freeze...I hope you'll be back to normal soon
Deep Freeze wrote:
Good Morning, gang. Hope all are well. Feeling a little better today. Perhaps a lot of this is brought on by the absence of the Princess? She is still out of town (due back Sunday) and it is always a tough time for me whan she is gone.
Glad to see so much activity around here, though! Looks like we are all starting to get our "groove" back! That's great. I wish we could find a way to get MM back with us! Oh well, good to see you all!!!
[Deep Freeze] Friday, February 20, 2009 8:33:56 AM
Thank you, pao!! How are things with you? Did you get things straightened out at school?? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by paorcamp from Friday, February 20, 2009 8:32:45 AM)
paorcamp wrote:
it's good to see that you're feeling better freeze...I hope you'll be back to normal soon
Deep Freeze wrote:
Good Morning, gang. Hope all are well. Feeling a little better today. Perhaps a lot of this is brought on by the absence of the Princess? She is still out of town (due back Sunday) and it is always a tough time for me whan she is gone.
Glad to see so much activity around here, though! Looks like we are all starting to get our "groove" back! That's great. I wish we could find a way to get MM back with us! Oh well, good to see you all!!!
[paorcamp] Friday, February 20, 2009 8:32:45 AM
it's good to see that you're feeling better freeze...I hope you'll be back to normal soon
Good Morning, gang. Hope all are well. Feeling a little better today. Perhaps a lot of this is brought on by the absence of the Princess? She is still out of town (due back Sunday) and it is always a tough time for me whan she is gone.
Glad to see so much activity around here, though! Looks like we are all starting to get our "groove" back! That's great. I wish we could find a way to get MM back with us! Oh well, good to see you all!!!
[Deep Freeze] Friday, February 20, 2009 8:28:13 AM
Good Morning, gang. Hope all are well. Feeling a little better today. Perhaps a lot of this is brought on by the absence of the Princess? She is still out of town (due back Sunday) and it is always a tough time for me whan she is gone.
Glad to see so much activity around here, though! Looks like we are all starting to get our "groove" back! That's great. I wish we could find a way to get MM back with us! Oh well, good to see you all!!!
[scorpion01] Friday, February 20, 2009 8:13:04 AM
I REMEMBER THAT DAY LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY. I WORKED IN A MOVIE THEATRE. WHEN I GOT TO WORK MY FRIEND WAS OUT FRONT IN THE TICKET BOOTH WITH TEARS IN HIS EYES AND TOLD ME THE BAD NEWS.
AFTER HOURS WHEN THE THEATRE WOULD CLOSE WE USED TO SNEAK BACK IN WITH OUR FRIENDS. ESPECIALLY IN THE WINTER WHEN IT WAS COLD OUTSIDE. WE USED TO GET FREE SODA, CANDY AND PUMP METAL OUT OF THE THEATRE SOUND SYSTEM. WE TRY TO DRESS UP LIKE OUR FAVORITE METAL BANDS. GETTING ON STAGE IN A MAKES HIFT SCOOLBOY OUTFIT RUNNING AROUND LIKE ANGUS WHILE MY BUDDY WAS BON SCOTT WAS PROBABLY THE BAND THAT WAS THE MOST FUN TO IMITATE.
I'D GET ON HIS BACK DURING BAD BOY BOOGIE, OR RUNNING AROUND WITH MAKESHIFT BAG PIPES.
AAAAH THOSE 1970'S GREAT DAYS TO BE A METAL FAN. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by momo from Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:31:19 PM)
momo wrote:
29 years ago today Bon Scott died.
[Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Friday, February 20, 2009 4:46:58 AM
Only a new hairstyle can truly end helmet hair. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:37:55 PM)
It adds "roo to your do"? Is it jumping off or something?
guidogodoy wrote:
Ok, damnit, I have a serious question...
I just took a shower using my favorite shampoo of the moment: Aussie. It claims to add more "Roo to my do" and make my hair "Sydney smooth." Just how freakin' smooth is the hair of people from Sydney (seems rather hot and muggy at times to me) and how much "roo" can I expect?!
Knowing I speak to an international group, I want answers!!!
[guidogodoy] Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:47:01 PM
Nope. I will, though...watching Hell Bent at the moment! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:44:07 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
HA!!!!!!! There's even hair insurance, too!!
Did you see the YouTube video to the helmet hair thing?
It adds "roo to your do"? Is it jumping off or something?
guidogodoy wrote:
Ok, damnit, I have a serious question...
I just took a shower using my favorite shampoo of the moment: Aussie. It claims to add more "Roo to my do" and make my hair "Sydney smooth." Just how freakin' smooth is the hair of people from Sydney (seems rather hot and muggy at times to me) and how much "roo" can I expect?!
Knowing I speak to an international group, I want answers!!!
[Vaillant 3.0] Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:44:07 PM
HA!!!!!!! There's even hair insurance, too!!
Did you see the YouTube video to the helmet hair thing?
It adds "roo to your do"? Is it jumping off or something?
guidogodoy wrote:
Ok, damnit, I have a serious question...
I just took a shower using my favorite shampoo of the moment: Aussie. It claims to add more "Roo to my do" and make my hair "Sydney smooth." Just how freakin' smooth is the hair of people from Sydney (seems rather hot and muggy at times to me) and how much "roo" can I expect?!
Knowing I speak to an international group, I want answers!!!
[guidogodoy] Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:37:55 PM
It adds "roo to your do"? Is it jumping off or something?
guidogodoy wrote:
Ok, damnit, I have a serious question...
I just took a shower using my favorite shampoo of the moment: Aussie. It claims to add more "Roo to my do" and make my hair "Sydney smooth." Just how freakin' smooth is the hair of people from Sydney (seems rather hot and muggy at times to me) and how much "roo" can I expect?!
Knowing I speak to an international group, I want answers!!!
[Vaillant 3.0] Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:28:30 PM
It adds "roo to your do"? Is it jumping off or something? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:21:16 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Ok, damnit, I have a serious question...
I just took a shower using my favorite shampoo of the moment: Aussie. It claims to add more "Roo to my do" and make my hair "Sydney smooth." Just how freakin' smooth is the hair of people from Sydney (seems rather hot and muggy at times to me) and how much "roo" can I expect?!
Knowing I speak to an international group, I want answers!!!
[guidogodoy] Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:21:16 PM
Ok, damnit, I have a serious question...
I just took a shower using my favorite shampoo of the moment: Aussie. It claims to add more "Roo to my do" and make my hair "Sydney smooth." Just how freakin' smooth is the hair of people from Sydney (seems rather hot and muggy at times to me) and how much "roo" can I expect?!
Knowing I speak to an international group, I want answers!!!
[momo] Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:31:19 PM
29 years ago today Bon Scott died.
[Becks] Thursday, February 19, 2009 3:20:39 PM
That's cool Scorp
It's raining here, so I think I may chuck in my Vengeance '82 DVD I am also waiting for an exciting phone call from my husband in Afghanistan JP may help the wait go faster haha!
[scorpion01] Thursday, February 19, 2009 1:48:34 PM
DEAL WITH THE DEVIL:
DRIVING IN THAT TRANSIT
DOWN TO HOLY JOE’S
USED TO LOSE OUR HEAD
WHILE METAL FLOWED
I ALWAYS ASSUMED (I KNOW DON'T ASSUME OR....)
ANYWAY I THOUGHT IT WAS A BAR OR CLUB WHERE THEY PERFORMED.
IT IS ACTUALLY A TINY ROOM WHERE THEY USED TO REHERSE WHEN THEY WERE GETTING STARTED. IT WAS NEXT TO A CHURCH RUN BY FATHER JOE. SO THEY CALLED IT HOLY JOES.
JUST READ THAT IN METAL EDGE MAGAZINE. ROB IS ON THE COVER AND VOTED BEST METAL FRONTMAN.
[scorpion01] Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:24:17 AM
GOOD QUESTION RON.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO HEAR EPITAPH LIVE. AND LAST RSE OF SUMMER AND HERE COME THE TEARS.
WHAT HAVEN'T THEY PLAYED LIVE ON HELL BENT FOR LEATHER? THE ONLY ONE I CAN THINK OF IS BURNIN' UP. AND THAT IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE SONGS ON THE ALBUM.
[devils_child] Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:12:53 AM
lol..like I posted in the other one...it's only fitting you got this one DC!!! Very Very Good!!!
[ron h] Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:53:48 PM
lol..like I posted in the other one...it's only fitting you got this one DC!!! Very Very Good!!!
[devils_child] Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:28:45 PM
It was on the filthy 15 list.... EAT ME ALIVE!!!!! Damn it Ron!!! DEFENDERS OF THE FAITH [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:51:18 PM)
ronhartsell wrote:
I'll give this little 2-part hint:
The album is 'post' British Steel
and
The song was put on a 'particular' list that led the Band to not play the song as a result thereof...
[spapad] Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:07:41 PM
Ok, anything beyond that I would be guessing and I don't feel like doing the research right now,..........So? ya gonna tell me or make me suffer! LOL [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:04:19 PM)
ronhartsell wrote:
They have played that song live before '08...it was actually song #12 of their '82 Live Vengeance Tour...
spapad wrote:
Holy Crap! Screaming for Vengeance!
ronhartsell wrote:
I'll give this little 2-part hint:
The album is 'post' British Steel
and
The song was put on a 'particular' list that led the Band to not play the song as a result thereof...
[ron h] Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:04:19 PM
They have played that song live before '08...it was actually song #12 of their '82 Live Vengeance Tour... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:54:27 PM)
spapad wrote:
Holy Crap! Screaming for Vengeance!
ronhartsell wrote:
I'll give this little 2-part hint:
The album is 'post' British Steel
and
The song was put on a 'particular' list that led the Band to not play the song as a result thereof...
[spapad] Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:54:27 PM
Holy Crap! Screaming for Vengeance! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:51:18 PM)
ronhartsell wrote:
I'll give this little 2-part hint:
The album is 'post' British Steel
and
The song was put on a 'particular' list that led the Band to not play the song as a result thereof...
[ron h] Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:51:18 PM
I'll give this little 2-part hint:
The album is 'post' British Steel
and
The song was put on a 'particular' list that led the Band to not play the song as a result thereof...
I just ran across a bit interesting info I didn't know, and I'd like to see if anyone else knows this (I may very well be the last to know this)...what album is the only one that has had every song off it played live in concert??...it may have not been the same concert or even over the same tour and year...but throughout the years (ending in '08) they finally played the only song that they never played live before...who all knows this one??
[K2M] Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:53:56 PM
EPITAPH LIVE. I would Love it.
[Becks] Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:16:35 PM
Haha MG, love it! That is awesome, go Yvonne!
[kiamat] Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:31:22 PM
errrr... Sad Wings of Destiny? Possibly? Actually, I really wouldn't know.
[ron h] Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:04:23 PM
I just ran across a bit interesting info I didn't know, and I'd like to see if anyone else knows this (I may very well be the last to know this)...what album is the only one that has had every song off it played live in concert??...it may have not been the same concert or even over the same tour and year...but throughout the years (ending in '08) they finally played the only song that they never played live before...who all knows this one??
[scorpion01] Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:26:16 PM
GOOD AFTERNOON FELLOW METAL HEADS. HAVE A FEW MINUTES WHILE THE AUDITORS HUDDLE UP AND REGROUP THEIR OUTSTANDING CHECKLIST. GOING FAIRLY SMOOTH TODAY. HOPEFLLY THIS WILL BE FINISHED WBY THE WEEKEND.
HAD A NICE SUPRISE LAST NIGHT. GOT A CALL FROM A FRIEND WHO HAD AN EXTRA "FREE" TICKET TO MADISON SQUARE GARDEN TONIGHT TO SEE THE ISLANDERS PLAY THE RANGERS. THIS MAY BE THE ONLY EVENT THAT RIVALS A JUDAS PRIEST CONCERT.
WELL I NEED TO GO MAKE SOME COPIES. HOPEFULLY I CAN GET BACK LATER.
[kiamat] Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:11:34 PM
What, and nicking cars isn't despicable?
He'll get over it...
[_strat_] Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:56:56 AM
THAT is despicable! Women will just never know how much that hurts...
Woman wields wedgie to subdue suspect
Technician says she saw man trying to break into a co-worker’s car
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updated 3:47 p.m. CT, Tues., Feb.
17, 2009
SALT LAKE CITY - It took a wedgie and a headlock to pin down a man suspected of breaking into a car.
Yvonne Morris, a technician at the Brickyard Animal Hospital, said she chased a man who broke into a co-worker's car, but he kept squirming away from her.
The third time, Morris grabbed hold of the man's boxer shorts and pulled. Salt Lake City police said she then she put a headlock on the man until help could arrive.
LMAO .......
[Justin Kenny] Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:34:43 AM
I'll tell you what..if that sumbitch who tried to steal that car does any jail time, he's gonna spend a lotta nights wishing wedgies were all he'd get...
...if that seems vague to anyone....lemme put it like THIS: ....prison inmates aren't renowned for giving wedgies. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by MG_Metalgoddess from Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:20:52 AM)
Woman wields wedgie to subdue suspect
Technician says she saw man trying to break into a co-worker’s car
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updated 3:47 p.m. CT, Tues., Feb.
17, 2009
SALT LAKE CITY - It took a wedgie and a headlock to pin down a man suspected of breaking into a car.
Yvonne Morris, a technician at the Brickyard Animal Hospital, said she chased a man who broke into a co-worker's car, but he kept squirming away from her.
The third time, Morris grabbed hold of the man's boxer shorts and pulled. Salt Lake City police said she then she put a headlock on the man until help could arrive.
LMAO .......
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:20:52 AM
Woman wields wedgie to subdue suspect
Technician says she saw man trying to break into a co-worker’s car
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updated 3:47 p.m. CT, Tues., Feb.
17, 2009
SALT LAKE CITY - It took a wedgie and a headlock to pin down a man suspected of breaking into a car.
Yvonne Morris, a technician at the Brickyard Animal Hospital, said she chased a man who broke into a co-worker's car, but he kept squirming away from her.
The third time, Morris grabbed hold of the man's boxer shorts and pulled. Salt Lake City police said she then she put a headlock on the man until help could arrive.
LMAO .......
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:07:30 AM
Happy WED to everyone............. Turning the corner to the weekend..... thank god.... My week has had 3 monday in a row now.......LOL
SOY!!!!!!!!!! Dont forget LOST is on tonight.....
Hugs to all MG~
[Justin Kenny] Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:49:03 AM
Hey all....just a quick 'good morning' to all before embarking on my meager little two loops, then I have a nice 5 hour split; from which, I shall drop in later...
GOD, I love my Wednesdays thru Fridays.... (same schedule as above all 3 days)
[Phantom A6] Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:34:33 PM
Can he remember his emailID he needs to LogIn?
When his email ID exist 'til the present he can try out
a LogIn. Then he can click on "Forgotten my password". [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:23:21 PM)
Necroticist wrote:
Hey - i got a question...son was registered here yrs ago - not sure he can rem p/w...should i ask the boss or let him just re-reg?
[Necroticist] Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:23:21 PM
Hey - i got a question...son was registered here yrs ago - not sure he can rem p/w...should i ask the boss or let him just re-reg?
[ron h] Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:28:33 PM
Great to hear from you Scorp!! I was hoping you'd get a chance to drop in...at least you didn't have to go to Ancorage or some other really cold place...good luck with your audit and looking forward to chatting with you!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by scorpion01 from Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:48:55 PM)
scorpion01 wrote:
HELLO EVERYONE. I'M BACK FROM FLORIDA, ALTHOUGH OUR AUDIT IS NOT QUITE OVER. I'VE BEEN GETING READY FOR THEM TO COME VISIT ME HERE IN NEW YORK FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS WEEK.
HOPE EVERYONE HAS BEEN WELL! I'M SURE YOU WERE ALL AS DISAPPOINTED WITH THE GRAMMIES AS MUCH AS I WAS.
FLORIDA WAS NICE BUT BUSY. WORKED LONG DAYS, BUT HAD A FEW HOURS EACH NIGHT TO GET DINNER A BEER AND WATCH A HOCKEY GAME.
MET SOME INTERESTING PEOPLE DOWN THERE. NO ONE IS FROM FLORIDA. MET A GUY HE GREW UP IN A CITY BETWEEN LONDON AND BERMINGHAM IN THE 1970'S. HAD SOME GOOD METAL CONVERSATION WITH HIM.
WELL GOT TO GET BACK TO WORK. THE BETTER I PREPARE HOPEFULLY THE EASIER THE AUDIT WILL BE.
THIS IS HOW I FEEL
BUT I FEEL LIKE SAYING .
I GUESS THE POSITIVE SIDE IS WE WILL BE DONE EARLIER THIS YEAR SO MAYBE I CAN TAKE A WEEK OFF
AND BANG MY HEAD THE WAY WE METAL MANIACS ENJOY DOING IT.
[scorpion01] Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:48:55 PM
HELLO EVERYONE. I'M BACK FROM FLORIDA, ALTHOUGH OUR AUDIT IS NOT QUITE OVER. I'VE BEEN GETING READY FOR THEM TO COME VISIT ME HERE IN NEW YORK FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS WEEK.
HOPE EVERYONE HAS BEEN WELL! I'M SURE YOU WERE ALL AS DISAPPOINTED WITH THE GRAMMIES AS MUCH AS I WAS.
FLORIDA WAS NICE BUT BUSY. WORKED LONG DAYS, BUT HAD A FEW HOURS EACH NIGHT TO GET DINNER A BEER AND WATCH A HOCKEY GAME.
MET SOME INTERESTING PEOPLE DOWN THERE. NO ONE IS FROM FLORIDA. MET A GUY HE GREW UP IN A CITY BETWEEN LONDON AND BERMINGHAM IN THE 1970'S. HAD SOME GOOD METAL CONVERSATION WITH HIM.
WELL GOT TO GET BACK TO WORK. THE BETTER I PREPARE HOPEFULLY THE EASIER THE AUDIT WILL BE.
THIS IS HOW I FEEL
BUT I FEEL LIKE SAYING .
I GUESS THE POSITIVE SIDE IS WE WILL BE DONE EARLIER THIS YEAR SO MAYBE I CAN TAKE A WEEK OFF
AND BANG MY HEAD THE WAY WE METAL MANIACS ENJOY DOING IT.
...My C drive took a sh*t...cost as much to fix it as it would to buy another one...soon enough, just have to go a little while longer...but in the mean time I have no video playing capabilities...which truly sucks!!!
spapad wrote:
Why? what happened? Did you take the PC down to bare bones and start again? that should have done it. Maybe you just need to upload the latest Active X or something like that?
ronhartsell wrote:
I haven't been able to visit YouTube since my new computer took a sh*t...I go by 'mmpriestfanmm' and have a number of lengthy playlists there...now I'm feeling the pangs of a YouTube junkie in need of his fix...
sunday morning here almost the end of another week.
ɪt
TAR SANDS! 
... IF WE START GETTIN' ANY ODOUR HERE,WE'RE COMIN' OUT THERE TO CLOSE IT DOWN! 
LOL
Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo close to 20K! 
JP may help the wait go faster haha!
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