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I think you do understand, Ron! You're right. Adaption is the key because times have changed (I mentioned that as 'social evolution'). Depending on the kind of parent you are, it certainly can be "good or bad". You mentioned being taught respect. Seems to me that is not the "norm" nowadays. Of course, I have mentioned often that we see "role models" and "famous" people that live and or promote a lifestyle wherein criminal activity or anti-social behavior is presented as "cool". Not too far from our day, I'm afraid. (Anyone here remember James Dean??) However, the anti-social hero of days gone by had a soul and was , at heart, a good person that had a tortured inner-self, yearning to be "loved". Now, we see that the criminal is a hero for his actions and disdain for anything good. "Beating the man", as it were. That behavior is glorified in ways we could never have imagined when we watched Fonda on his motorcycle as he "stuck it to the man". (Please see Grand Theft Auto for examples).
My biggest concern is that children learn a certain behavior. They are taught (by their parents) how to treat others BY THEIR PARENTS ACTIONS...or inaction. You may not be able to keep your children off drugs or away from gangs BUT, you can certainly NEVER allow it. You see? By "doing the right thing" you teach children how to behave. If they do something wrong, you do NOT hide it, or deny it. You FACE it and accept the consequences. A parent's response to adversity is the greatest teacher.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Saturday, March 07, 2009 10:19:42 AM)| |  | ronhartsell wrote: | | I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean by "we, as parents, try to project ourselves and our childhood on our children". But if it's what I think it means, that can be both good and bad. If my dad were a spouse abusing alcoholic and I grew to be like him and then my son picked it up from me, that would be bad. I was raised to 'respect my elders at all times' and 'corporal punishment' ensured I obeyed that command. As a parent I taught all the kids to do the same but I also explained to them why it was important to do so. They learned that what came back at them as a result of not showing proper respect was it's own 'just reward', so to speak. As times change a parent has to recognize and adapt to it or the kids will eat you alive (lol). There are a lot of things out there for a parent to worry about these days along with the duties of parenting, and it's easy to get into a routine and the days just run into each other and the next thing you know 3 years have gone by in the blink of an eye. It's a tough job, but it can be done. I see so many young ladies with kids living at home with mom and dad and still out there every weekend going to the bars carrying on with their lives like they forgot they're mom's. Fortunately 'grandma and pa' can be there if they're going to carry on like that, but where's the responsibilty at? Are grandma and pa enablers? For every kid that makes 'it', how many don't??
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | It's funny, all this talk about kids and their behavior. Sometimes I think we, as parents, try to project ourselves and our childhood on our children. We often forget that there has been a remarkable social evolution in our society which has, of course, affected values. I suppose it happens to each generation. Having said this, there is a constant that remains and THAT would be what we call "doing the right thing".
I recall my youth. Working for money to buy the things my parents did not give me was just what we did. My grandparents owned a small cafe and I worked there every summer. More importantly, there was school. In our family, there was NEVER any discussion as to whether or not you went to college. It wasn't optional. You finished high school and you went to college. That was that. It is difficult for me to imagine a childhood wherein I would be thinking about a full time job and "being on my own" as a teenager. School was all there was. Nonetheless, my parents made sure that I "did the right thing". What does that mean, exactly?
We all know that, when one commits a crime, one pays a price. There is consequence for action. In life, there is also consequence for inaction. The reckoning may come slower, but it does come. Far too many parents feel that it is their "job" to continually support their children. By support, I mean financial. I mean a place to live. I mean feeding them. All of which, at some point, should come to an end. As a child, the right thing means learning to be an adult. We all learn how to be treated. Children learn this from their parents. Those that are coddled, given money, sheltered from responsibility and whatnot learn dependancy. Parents think they are doing the child a favor, but they are sadly mistaken. There comes a point were a parent must realize that "helping" is actually enabling.
One of the most difficult things for a parent to do is to let go. Refuse to keep "helping". If a child has spent his/her lifetime learning dependancy, this moment is all the more difficult. If a child has learned that work and responsibility are keys to adulthood, it is less difficult. Doing the right thing. What a concept! |
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| [ron h] Saturday, March 07, 2009 10:19:42 AM | |
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I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean by "we, as parents, try to project ourselves and our childhood on our children". But if it's what I think it means, that can be both good and bad. If my dad were a spouse abusing alcoholic and I grew to be like him and then my son picked it up from me, that would be bad. I was raised to 'respect my elders at all times' and 'corporal punishment' ensured I obeyed that command. As a parent I taught all the kids to do the same but I also explained to them why it was important to do so. They learned that what came back at them as a result of not showing proper respect was it's own 'just reward', so to speak. As times change a parent has to recognize and adapt to it or the kids will eat you alive (lol). There are a lot of things out there for a parent to worry about these days along with the duties of parenting, and it's easy to get into a routine and the days just run into each other and the next thing you know 3 years have gone by in the blink of an eye. It's a tough job, but it can be done. I see so many young ladies with kids living at home with mom and dad and still out there every weekend going to the bars carrying on with their lives like they forgot they're mom's. Fortunately 'grandma and pa' can be there if they're going to carry on like that, but where's the responsibilty at? Are grandma and pa enablers? For every kid that makes 'it', how many don't??
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, March 07, 2009 8:58:20 AM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | It's funny, all this talk about kids and their behavior. Sometimes I think we, as parents, try to project ourselves and our childhood on our children. We often forget that there has been a remarkable social evolution in our society which has, of course, affected values. I suppose it happens to each generation. Having said this, there is a constant that remains and THAT would be what we call "doing the right thing".
I recall my youth. Working for money to buy the things my parents did not give me was just what we did. My grandparents owned a small cafe and I worked there every summer. More importantly, there was school. In our family, there was NEVER any discussion as to whether or not you went to college. It wasn't optional. You finished high school and you went to college. That was that. It is difficult for me to imagine a childhood wherein I would be thinking about a full time job and "being on my own" as a teenager. School was all there was. Nonetheless, my parents made sure that I "did the right thing". What does that mean, exactly?
We all know that, when one commits a crime, one pays a price. There is consequence for action. In life, there is also consequence for inaction. The reckoning may come slower, but it does come. Far too many parents feel that it is their "job" to continually support their children. By support, I mean financial. I mean a place to live. I mean feeding them. All of which, at some point, should come to an end. As a child, the right thing means learning to be an adult. We all learn how to be treated. Children learn this from their parents. Those that are coddled, given money, sheltered from responsibility and whatnot learn dependancy. Parents think they are doing the child a favor, but they are sadly mistaken. There comes a point were a parent must realize that "helping" is actually enabling.
One of the most difficult things for a parent to do is to let go. Refuse to keep "helping". If a child has spent his/her lifetime learning dependancy, this moment is all the more difficult. If a child has learned that work and responsibility are keys to adulthood, it is less difficult. Doing the right thing. What a concept! |
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| [Deep Freeze] Saturday, March 07, 2009 8:58:20 AM | |
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It's funny, all this talk about kids and their behavior. Sometimes I think we, as parents, try to project ourselves and our childhood on our children. We often forget that there has been a remarkable social evolution in our society which has, of course, affected values. I suppose it happens to each generation. Having said this, there is a constant that remains and THAT would be what we call "doing the right thing".
I recall my youth. Working for money to buy the things my parents did not give me was just what we did. My grandparents owned a small cafe and I worked there every summer. More importantly, there was school. In our family, there was NEVER any discussion as to whether or not you went to college. It wasn't optional. You finished high school and you went to college. That was that. It is difficult for me to imagine a childhood wherein I would be thinking about a full time job and "being on my own" as a teenager. School was all there was. Nonetheless, my parents made sure that I "did the right thing". What does that mean, exactly?
We all know that, when one commits a crime, one pays a price. There is consequence for action. In life, there is also consequence for inaction. The reckoning may come slower, but it does come. Far too many parents feel that it is their "job" to continually support their children. By support, I mean financial. I mean a place to live. I mean feeding them. All of which, at some point, should come to an end. As a child, the right thing means learning to be an adult. We all learn how to be treated. Children learn this from their parents. Those that are coddled, given money, sheltered from responsibility and whatnot learn dependancy. Parents think they are doing the child a favor, but they are sadly mistaken. There comes a point were a parent must realize that "helping" is actually enabling.
One of the most difficult things for a parent to do is to let go. Refuse to keep "helping". If a child has spent his/her lifetime learning dependancy, this moment is all the more difficult. If a child has learned that work and responsibility are keys to adulthood, it is less difficult. Doing the right thing. What a concept! |
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| [ron h] Saturday, March 07, 2009 5:31:28 AM | |
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Sure did...I believed that if you didn't get them while they were young, it would be too difficult later when they got older...but it comes with a price as well...I was an actual parent, I wasn't my kids' friend...I think too many parents want to be their kids friend instead of preparing them for lifes challenges, which means you are generally unpopular most of the time...and they needed to learn how to respect and the many forms of it... that, to me, was really important as I believe my kids are a reflection of their parents, especially when we weren't around...
...every kid is different and some times they have to fail in order to succeed...I never got the impression that you didn't care, but I think you see the need for things to get worse before you can make a difference...I'm sure when that time comes you'll be ready and willing...he doesn't know yet how lucky he'll be to have you waiting to help him when he really needs you the most!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, March 07, 2009 4:52:52 AM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Don't get me wrong,when my kid fails and pulls his head out....I will be there to pick up the pieces.But its gonna be a while.I am not a violent parent or anything by all means,and I am not unfair by all means,he is really that delusional right now. Hey ronhartsell,it sounds like your kids had a grip on reality from the sounds of it. Thats great to hear.Does that mean "you" had to kick some butt when they were younger? I'm starting to be afraid of you ronhartsell!!! lol!
Bev,that is unreasonable for him to make the kid walk up to the store for an unworthy reason I agree.
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I guess I'm one of the lucky ones...the eldest step-daughter is married with a daughter and getting along great, wonderful guy she chose...my step-son is an asst. mngr., engaged to a wonderful lass...and my daughter just graduated H.S, mid-term and has had a job for the last year and is going to school part-time to prepare for fall classes...so I have no complaints...but I totally get where you're coming from...kids want to 'act' so grown up at a really young age but don't want any of the responsibilties that go with it...like they're owed a life...you have to make your life, it usually doesn't fall in your lap...and I do beieve a majority of it has to do with the parents (or the lack thereof)...
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Wow,so I'm not the only one who noticed that these kids of today are indeed getting lazy.It does stem from thier parents,not always but most of the time.My kid does not live with me,he never has and since he turned 13 years old he went down hill.Now he is living at my worthless loser sister's house and roams between there and his sleezy mother's house and avoids my house.....why? Because he is afraid of me right now because the next time I see him,my foot is going soooo far up his ass he will never get it out! I'm going to sit back and watch him fail,and to tell ya the honest truth....I am enjoying it. If some of you out here are one of these lazy kids....get off your &*%#!@* asses and do something!!
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, March 07, 2009 5:14:10 AM | |
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Yeah,thanks Bev. Yeah,its the only way he will learn is to fall down first.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bev from Saturday, March 07, 2009 5:03:06 AM)| | | Bev wrote: | | Yeah, JD. Made me nervous at first so I became a buffer not a barrier between he and our son. Dad is a hardworking guy, don't get me wrong. Like many (myself included) he grew up in weird unstable environment. I think it's been hard for Dad to keep quiet at times, thinking son should be doing more. But I like to believe he is equally proud of how things have turned out with his support.
Proud to know you'll be there for your son at the end of the day. Sounds like it may be a hard fall that brings him 'round. My best to you.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Don't get me wrong,when my kid fails and pulls his head out....I will be there to pick up the pieces.But its gonna be a while.I am not a violent parent or anything by all means,and I am not unfair by all means,he is really that delusional right now. Hey ronhartsell,it sounds like your kids had a grip on reality from the sounds of it. Thats great to hear.Does that mean "you" had to kick some butt when they were younger? I'm starting to be afraid of you ronhartsell!!! lol!
Bev,that is unreasonable for him to make the kid walk up to the store for an unworthy reason I agree.
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I guess I'm one of the lucky ones...the eldest step-daughter is married with a daughter and getting along great, wonderful guy she chose...my step-son is an asst. mngr., engaged to a wonderful lass...and my daughter just graduated H.S, mid-term and has had a job for the last year and is going to school part-time to prepare for fall classes...so I have no complaints...but I totally get where you're coming from...kids want to 'act' so grown up at a really young age but don't want any of the responsibilties that go with it...like they're owed a life...you have to make your life, it usually doesn't fall in your lap...and I do beieve a majority of it has to do with the parents (or the lack thereof)...
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Wow,so I'm not the only one who noticed that these kids of today are indeed getting lazy.It does stem from thier parents,not always but most of the time.My kid does not live with me,he never has and since he turned 13 years old he went down hill.Now he is living at my worthless loser sister's house and roams between there and his sleezy mother's house and avoids my house.....why? Because he is afraid of me right now because the next time I see him,my foot is going soooo far up his ass he will never get it out! I'm going to sit back and watch him fail,and to tell ya the honest truth....I am enjoying it. If some of you out here are one of these lazy kids....get off your &*%#!@* asses and do something!!
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| [Bev] Saturday, March 07, 2009 5:03:06 AM | |
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Yeah, JD. Made me nervous at first so I became a buffer not a barrier between he and our son. Dad is a hardworking guy, don't get me wrong. Like many (myself included) he grew up in weird unstable environment. I think it's been hard for Dad to keep quiet at times, thinking son should be doing more. But I like to believe he is equally proud of how things have turned out with his support.
Proud to know you'll be there for your son at the end of the day. Sounds like it may be a hard fall that brings him 'round. My best to you.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, March 07, 2009 4:52:52 AM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Don't get me wrong,when my kid fails and pulls his head out....I will be there to pick up the pieces.But its gonna be a while.I am not a violent parent or anything by all means,and I am not unfair by all means,he is really that delusional right now. Hey ronhartsell,it sounds like your kids had a grip on reality from the sounds of it. Thats great to hear.Does that mean "you" had to kick some butt when they were younger? I'm starting to be afraid of you ronhartsell!!! lol!
Bev,that is unreasonable for him to make the kid walk up to the store for an unworthy reason I agree.
(Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Saturday, March 07, 2009 4:12:30 AM)
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I guess I'm one of the lucky ones...the eldest step-daughter is married with a daughter and getting along great, wonderful guy she chose...my step-son is an asst. mngr., engaged to a wonderful lass...and my daughter just graduated H.S, mid-term and has had a job for the last year and is going to school part-time to prepare for fall classes...so I have no complaints...but I totally get where you're coming from...kids want to 'act' so grown up at a really young age but don't want any of the responsibilties that go with it...like they're owed a life...you have to make your life, it usually doesn't fall in your lap...and I do beieve a majority of it has to do with the parents (or the lack thereof)...
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Wow,so I'm not the only one who noticed that these kids of today are indeed getting lazy.It does stem from thier parents,not always but most of the time.My kid does not live with me,he never has and since he turned 13 years old he went down hill.Now he is living at my worthless loser sister's house and roams between there and his sleezy mother's house and avoids my house.....why? Because he is afraid of me right now because the next time I see him,my foot is going soooo far up his ass he will never get it out! I'm going to sit back and watch him fail,and to tell ya the honest truth....I am enjoying it. If some of you out here are one of these lazy kids....get off your &*%#!@* asses and do something!!
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, March 07, 2009 4:52:52 AM | |
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Don't get me wrong,when my kid fails and pulls his head out....I will be there to pick up the pieces.But its gonna be a while.I am not a violent parent or anything by all means,and I am not unfair by all means,he is really that delusional right now. Hey ronhartsell,it sounds like your kids had a grip on reality from the sounds of it. Thats great to hear.Does that mean "you" had to kick some butt when they were younger? I'm starting to be afraid of you ronhartsell!!! lol!
Bev,that is unreasonable for him to make the kid walk up to the store for an unworthy reason I agree.
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I guess I'm one of the lucky ones...the eldest step-daughter is married with a daughter and getting along great, wonderful guy she chose...my step-son is an asst. mngr., engaged to a wonderful lass...and my daughter just graduated H.S, mid-term and has had a job for the last year and is going to school part-time to prepare for fall classes...so I have no complaints...but I totally get where you're coming from...kids want to 'act' so grown up at a really young age but don't want any of the responsibilties that go with it...like they're owed a life...you have to make your life, it usually doesn't fall in your lap...and I do beieve a majority of it has to do with the parents (or the lack thereof)...
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Wow,so I'm not the only one who noticed that these kids of today are indeed getting lazy.It does stem from thier parents,not always but most of the time.My kid does not live with me,he never has and since he turned 13 years old he went down hill.Now he is living at my worthless loser sister's house and roams between there and his sleezy mother's house and avoids my house.....why? Because he is afraid of me right now because the next time I see him,my foot is going soooo far up his ass he will never get it out! I'm going to sit back and watch him fail,and to tell ya the honest truth....I am enjoying it. If some of you out here are one of these lazy kids....get off your &*%#!@* asses and do something!!
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| [Bev] Saturday, March 07, 2009 4:47:58 AM | |
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I bet you met lots of interesting people working this job, lots of families on vacation, having (or trying to) a good time. Fun people watching too, I'd imagine. Good for you, Vail : )
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Friday, March 06, 2009 10:14:07 PM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Ooookkkaaaaayyyyyy...Looks like I'll have to do a double-confession:
1). No, I don't have a job right now... I'm in college now and living off Federal Student Aid... slaughter me if you wish...
2). HOWEVER!!! I did have a summer job last year...which was working at an amusement park called Knott's Berry Farm...operating kiddie rides... 
While it was fun operating the control panel of several rides, the hours were a bit exhausting (12 hrs a day, six days a week), but at least I decided to stay and give it a go for the season, unlike other trainees who would walk out after only half a day's worth of work. All the rides were outdoors, so I was pretty much washing my work uniform everyday because I would sweat so much. Had to quit though, since this amusement park was in one region in the state and my college is 500 miles away. Still, it felt good getting that envelope from the Payroll office every Friday and looking at what was achieved in the long run: money, of course! For food and other small necessities during the school year.
I know I'll probably sound like a hypocrite, but I think the problem with my generation is that most imagine a job as having something to do with being in an office or something else less laborous, which is why many of us are in college in the first place, along with making parents proud. We're a bunch of softies, in other words. |
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| [Bev] Saturday, March 07, 2009 4:31:19 AM | |
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As far as it is possible, while my son is in school, he is focusing on grades so he can get whatever job he wants after he graduates. Having said that, I think he's a pretty well balanced kid. He still does chores to earn allowance. He's not old enough to get a job, legally. The past couple of years he's done community service at the aquarium or humane society. It looks good on a college application. Until he is legally permitted to work, he earns extra cash working with his Dad, who is a sailboat rigger and sailing instructor. They sometimes work together on the two rental properties we own. I don't think Harley would work for him if he was scared of him. Of course, I've never told him the story of how he got pissed at his oldest son, Harley's step-brother, and, because he forgot to ask his Dad they were out of milk his Dad made him walk a couple miles to the 7/11 in the snow at 11:00 pm to get it ... eldest was 7 years old at the time. I think that's plain stupid, and he must have come home drunk to make his kid do that ... stupid, if you ask me. Thank goodness he has evolved a little as a parent ; ) |
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I guess I'm one of the lucky ones...the eldest step-daughter is married with a daughter and getting along great, wonderful guy she chose...my step-son is an asst. mngr., engaged to a wonderful lass...and my daughter just graduated H.S, mid-term and has had a job for the last year and is going to school part-time to prepare for fall classes...so I have no complaints...but I totally get where you're coming from...kids want to 'act' so grown up at a really young age but don't want any of the responsibilties that go with it...like they're owed a life...you have to make your life, it usually doesn't fall in your lap...and I do beieve a majority of it has to do with the parents (or the lack thereof)...
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, March 07, 2009 2:59:41 AM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Wow,so I'm not the only one who noticed that these kids of today are indeed getting lazy.It does stem from thier parents,not always but most of the time.My kid does not live with me,he never has and since he turned 13 years old he went down hill.Now he is living at my worthless loser sister's house and roams between there and his sleezy mother's house and avoids my house.....why? Because he is afraid of me right now because the next time I see him,my foot is going soooo far up his ass he will never get it out! I'm going to sit back and watch him fail,and to tell ya the honest truth....I am enjoying it. If some of you out here are one of these lazy kids....get off your &*%#!@* asses and do something!!
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, March 07, 2009 2:59:41 AM | |
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Wow,so I'm not the only one who noticed that these kids of today are indeed getting lazy.It does stem from thier parents,not always but most of the time.My kid does not live with me,he never has and since he turned 13 years old he went down hill.Now he is living at my worthless loser sister's house and roams between there and his sleezy mother's house and avoids my house.....why? Because he is afraid of me right now because the next time I see him,my foot is going soooo far up his ass he will never get it out! I'm going to sit back and watch him fail,and to tell ya the honest truth....I am enjoying it. If some of you out here are one of these lazy kids....get off your &*%#!@* asses and do something!!
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Bread? English muffins! You'll never go back!! 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Friday, March 06, 2009 10:27:18 PM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | BWAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! That reminds me...I gotta buy more bread soon...can't eat Boysenberry preserves by itself, you know.
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| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Ooookkkaaaaayyyyyy...Looks like I'll have to do a double-confession:
1). No, I don't have a job right now... I'm in college now and living off Federal Student Aid... slaughter me if you wish...
2). HOWEVER!!! I did have a summer job last year...which was working at an amusement park called Knott's Berry Farm...operating kiddie rides...
While it was fun operating the control panel of several rides, the hours were a bit exhausting (12 hrs a day, six days a week), but at least I decided to stay and give it a go for the season, unlike other trainees who would walk out after only half a day's worth of work. All the rides were outdoors, so I was pretty much washing my work uniform everyday because I would sweat so much. Had to quit though, since this amusement park was in one region in the state and my college is 500 miles away. Still, it felt good getting that envelope from the Payroll office every Friday and looking at what was achieved in the long run: money, of course! For food and other small necessities during the school year.
I know I'll probably sound like a hypocrite, but I think the problem with my generation is that most imagine a job as having something to do with being in an office or something else less laborous, which is why many of us are in college in the first place, along with making parents proud. We're a bunch of softies, in other words. |
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BWAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! That reminds me...I gotta buy more bread soon...can't eat Boysenberry preserves by itself, you know.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, March 06, 2009 10:22:47 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | I pardon thee. Granted absolution. Why? BOYSENBERRY!!!!!!!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Ooookkkaaaaayyyyyy...Looks like I'll have to do a double-confession:
1). No, I don't have a job right now... I'm in college now and living off Federal Student Aid... slaughter me if you wish...
2). HOWEVER!!! I did have a summer job last year...which was working at an amusement park called Knott's Berry Farm...operating kiddie rides...
While it was fun operating the control panel of several rides, the hours were a bit exhausting (12 hrs a day, six days a week), but at least I decided to stay and give it a go for the season, unlike other trainees who would walk out after only half a day's worth of work. All the rides were outdoors, so I was pretty much washing my work uniform everyday because I would sweat so much. Had to quit though, since this amusement park was in one region in the state and my college is 500 miles away. Still, it felt good getting that envelope from the Payroll office every Friday and looking at what was achieved in the long run: money, of course! For food and other small necessities during the school year.
I know I'll probably sound like a hypocrite, but I think the problem with my generation is that most imagine a job as having something to do with being in an office or something else less laborous, which is why many of us are in college in the first place, along with making parents proud. We're a bunch of softies, in other words. |
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| [spapad] Friday, March 06, 2009 10:26:11 PM | |
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Vail! you are no softie and never have been! You have drive and determination that us "old folks" like to see!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Friday, March 06, 2009 10:14:07 PM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Ooookkkaaaaayyyyyy...Looks like I'll have to do a double-confession:
1). No, I don't have a job right now... I'm in college now and living off Federal Student Aid... slaughter me if you wish...
2). HOWEVER!!! I did have a summer job last year...which was working at an amusement park called Knott's Berry Farm...operating kiddie rides...
While it was fun operating the control panel of several rides, the hours were a bit exhausting (12 hrs a day, six days a week), but at least I decided to stay and give it a go for the season, unlike other trainees who would walk out after only half a day's worth of work. All the rides were outdoors, so I was pretty much washing my work uniform everyday because I would sweat so much. Had to quit though, since this amusement park was in one region in the state and my college is 500 miles away. Still, it felt good getting that envelope from the Payroll office every Friday and looking at what was achieved in the long run: money, of course! For food and other small necessities during the school year.
I know I'll probably sound like a hypocrite, but I think the problem with my generation is that most imagine a job as having something to do with being in an office or something else less laborous, which is why many of us are in college in the first place, along with making parents proud. We're a bunch of softies, in other words. |
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| [guidogodoy] Friday, March 06, 2009 10:22:47 PM | |
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I pardon thee. Granted absolution. Why? BOYSENBERRY!!!!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Friday, March 06, 2009 10:14:07 PM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Ooookkkaaaaayyyyyy...Looks like I'll have to do a double-confession:
1). No, I don't have a job right now... I'm in college now and living off Federal Student Aid... slaughter me if you wish...
2). HOWEVER!!! I did have a summer job last year...which was working at an amusement park called Knott's Berry Farm...operating kiddie rides...
While it was fun operating the control panel of several rides, the hours were a bit exhausting (12 hrs a day, six days a week), but at least I decided to stay and give it a go for the season, unlike other trainees who would walk out after only half a day's worth of work. All the rides were outdoors, so I was pretty much washing my work uniform everyday because I would sweat so much. Had to quit though, since this amusement park was in one region in the state and my college is 500 miles away. Still, it felt good getting that envelope from the Payroll office every Friday and looking at what was achieved in the long run: money, of course! For food and other small necessities during the school year.
I know I'll probably sound like a hypocrite, but I think the problem with my generation is that most imagine a job as having something to do with being in an office or something else less laborous, which is why many of us are in college in the first place, along with making parents proud. We're a bunch of softies, in other words. |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Friday, March 06, 2009 10:14:07 PM | |
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Ooookkkaaaaayyyyyy...Looks like I'll have to do a double-confession:
1). No, I don't have a job right now... I'm in college now and living off Federal Student Aid... slaughter me if you wish...
2). HOWEVER!!! I did have a summer job last year...which was working at an amusement park called Knott's Berry Farm...operating kiddie rides...
While it was fun operating the control panel of several rides, the hours were a bit exhausting (12 hrs a day, six days a week), but at least I decided to stay and give it a go for the season, unlike other trainees who would walk out after only half a day's worth of work. All the rides were outdoors, so I was pretty much washing my work uniform everyday because I would sweat so much. Had to quit though, since this amusement park was in one region in the state and my college is 500 miles away. Still, it felt good getting that envelope from the Payroll office every Friday and looking at what was achieved in the long run: money, of course! For food and other small necessities during the school year.
I know I'll probably sound like a hypocrite, but I think the problem with my generation is that most imagine a job as having something to do with being in an office or something else less laborous, which is why many of us are in college in the first place, along with making parents proud. We're a bunch of softies, in other words. |
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| [spapad] Friday, March 06, 2009 8:55:06 PM | |
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Coal made a good lunch! Just left you with black lips! Went out to the railroad tracks to pick up a few pieces for lunch and the small stove in the old school room. I'm sure I was priviledged, I bet you didn't have a stove! 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, March 06, 2009 8:49:03 PM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Paint?? PAINT?!?!?! We didn't get no stinkin' paint!!! Paint was for rich kids! We had to bleed on the walls........
| | | spapad wrote: | | Were you lucky enough to get a morsel of lead paint off the pealing school walls for lunch?
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Sweater? SWEATER??!?!? We didn't get no stinkin' SWEATERS!!!! We suffered in the snow while walking to school, UPHILL...BOTH ways and we were grateful!!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Did you save the lint up to create yarn for that one and only winter sweater each year? LOL I mean 1 sweater for all of you, of course, had to take turns going out in the cold didn't you?
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Ate wood and rock??!?!?!? BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! MAN!! My brothers and I had to share LINT and I thought WE had it bad................
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | DAMNIT, I worked all my way through highschool and college. The college job SUCKED! Six days a week at least (Futon King of East Lansing...yup, that was me!). Really hard times but I made it through with dual degrees and absolutely NO debt. Even turned down financial aid as I figured that there were people more deserving than me. Kids nowadays (shakes fist violently).
Oh yeah, and I ate wood and ROCK and was happy to do so!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I agree that it may seem that kids are lazy these days compared to the older generations before, and many are lazy because Mom and Dad have not asked them to do anything. Kids will do what is expected of them. I was expected to do chores for allowance when I was young. My daughter is now getting to the age that she is going to soon be introduced to the "washing machine" and the art of dishwashing. She just turned twelve so it's about time to ask more of her.
By the time I was 14 I had a summer paper delivery route, and at 15 I got an evening job at a restaurant and still kept my grades up. My first paycheck was 68.00 dollars and all I could think about was how rich I was! LOL Album shopping!
While today, When my daughter reaches highschool, I would not want her working as much as I did during school because to prepare for a good collage career these days you need harder classes than what I took to get by. BUT, come summertime, I would rather see her working and making money and getting that sense of accomplishment that comes with earning money, than out getting into trouble.
| | | Becks wrote: | | | I agree with the sentiment that kids are getting lazy. I'm 24 and have been working in some form or another since I was about 12 - paper runs etc. Kids these days think money grows on trees and don't understand you've got to EARN IT, in the real world it doesn't get handed out on a silver platter. |
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| [Deep Freeze] Friday, March 06, 2009 8:49:03 PM | |
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Paint?? PAINT?!?!?! We didn't get no stinkin' paint!!! Paint was for rich kids! We had to bleed on the walls........
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, March 06, 2009 8:44:56 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Were you lucky enough to get a morsel of lead paint off the pealing school walls for lunch?
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Sweater? SWEATER??!?!? We didn't get no stinkin' SWEATERS!!!! We suffered in the snow while walking to school, UPHILL...BOTH ways and we were grateful!!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Did you save the lint up to create yarn for that one and only winter sweater each year? LOL I mean 1 sweater for all of you, of course, had to take turns going out in the cold didn't you?
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Ate wood and rock??!?!?!? BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! MAN!! My brothers and I had to share LINT and I thought WE had it bad................
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | DAMNIT, I worked all my way through highschool and college. The college job SUCKED! Six days a week at least (Futon King of East Lansing...yup, that was me!). Really hard times but I made it through with dual degrees and absolutely NO debt. Even turned down financial aid as I figured that there were people more deserving than me. Kids nowadays (shakes fist violently).
Oh yeah, and I ate wood and ROCK and was happy to do so!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I agree that it may seem that kids are lazy these days compared to the older generations before, and many are lazy because Mom and Dad have not asked them to do anything. Kids will do what is expected of them. I was expected to do chores for allowance when I was young. My daughter is now getting to the age that she is going to soon be introduced to the "washing machine" and the art of dishwashing. She just turned twelve so it's about time to ask more of her.
By the time I was 14 I had a summer paper delivery route, and at 15 I got an evening job at a restaurant and still kept my grades up. My first paycheck was 68.00 dollars and all I could think about was how rich I was! LOL Album shopping!
While today, When my daughter reaches highschool, I would not want her working as much as I did during school because to prepare for a good collage career these days you need harder classes than what I took to get by. BUT, come summertime, I would rather see her working and making money and getting that sense of accomplishment that comes with earning money, than out getting into trouble.
| | | Becks wrote: | | | I agree with the sentiment that kids are getting lazy. I'm 24 and have been working in some form or another since I was about 12 - paper runs etc. Kids these days think money grows on trees and don't understand you've got to EARN IT, in the real world it doesn't get handed out on a silver platter. |
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| [spapad] Friday, March 06, 2009 8:44:56 PM | |
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Were you lucky enough to get a morsel of lead paint off the pealing school walls for lunch?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, March 06, 2009 8:39:35 PM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Sweater? SWEATER??!?!? We didn't get no stinkin' SWEATERS!!!! We suffered in the snow while walking to school, UPHILL...BOTH ways and we were grateful!!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Did you save the lint up to create yarn for that one and only winter sweater each year? LOL I mean 1 sweater for all of you, of course, had to take turns going out in the cold didn't you?
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Ate wood and rock??!?!?!? BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! MAN!! My brothers and I had to share LINT and I thought WE had it bad................
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | DAMNIT, I worked all my way through highschool and college. The college job SUCKED! Six days a week at least (Futon King of East Lansing...yup, that was me!). Really hard times but I made it through with dual degrees and absolutely NO debt. Even turned down financial aid as I figured that there were people more deserving than me. Kids nowadays (shakes fist violently).
Oh yeah, and I ate wood and ROCK and was happy to do so!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I agree that it may seem that kids are lazy these days compared to the older generations before, and many are lazy because Mom and Dad have not asked them to do anything. Kids will do what is expected of them. I was expected to do chores for allowance when I was young. My daughter is now getting to the age that she is going to soon be introduced to the "washing machine" and the art of dishwashing. She just turned twelve so it's about time to ask more of her.
By the time I was 14 I had a summer paper delivery route, and at 15 I got an evening job at a restaurant and still kept my grades up. My first paycheck was 68.00 dollars and all I could think about was how rich I was! LOL Album shopping!
While today, When my daughter reaches highschool, I would not want her working as much as I did during school because to prepare for a good collage career these days you need harder classes than what I took to get by. BUT, come summertime, I would rather see her working and making money and getting that sense of accomplishment that comes with earning money, than out getting into trouble.
| | | Becks wrote: | | | I agree with the sentiment that kids are getting lazy. I'm 24 and have been working in some form or another since I was about 12 - paper runs etc. Kids these days think money grows on trees and don't understand you've got to EARN IT, in the real world it doesn't get handed out on a silver platter. |
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| [Deep Freeze] Friday, March 06, 2009 8:39:35 PM | |
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Sweater? SWEATER??!?!? We didn't get no stinkin' SWEATERS!!!! We suffered in the snow while walking to school, UPHILL...BOTH ways and we were grateful!!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, March 06, 2009 8:36:44 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Did you save the lint up to create yarn for that one and only winter sweater each year? LOL I mean 1 sweater for all of you, of course, had to take turns going out in the cold didn't you?
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Ate wood and rock??!?!?!? BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! MAN!! My brothers and I had to share LINT and I thought WE had it bad................
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | DAMNIT, I worked all my way through highschool and college. The college job SUCKED! Six days a week at least (Futon King of East Lansing...yup, that was me!). Really hard times but I made it through with dual degrees and absolutely NO debt. Even turned down financial aid as I figured that there were people more deserving than me. Kids nowadays (shakes fist violently).
Oh yeah, and I ate wood and ROCK and was happy to do so!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I agree that it may seem that kids are lazy these days compared to the older generations before, and many are lazy because Mom and Dad have not asked them to do anything. Kids will do what is expected of them. I was expected to do chores for allowance when I was young. My daughter is now getting to the age that she is going to soon be introduced to the "washing machine" and the art of dishwashing. She just turned twelve so it's about time to ask more of her.
By the time I was 14 I had a summer paper delivery route, and at 15 I got an evening job at a restaurant and still kept my grades up. My first paycheck was 68.00 dollars and all I could think about was how rich I was! LOL Album shopping!
While today, When my daughter reaches highschool, I would not want her working as much as I did during school because to prepare for a good collage career these days you need harder classes than what I took to get by. BUT, come summertime, I would rather see her working and making money and getting that sense of accomplishment that comes with earning money, than out getting into trouble.
| | | Becks wrote: | | | I agree with the sentiment that kids are getting lazy. I'm 24 and have been working in some form or another since I was about 12 - paper runs etc. Kids these days think money grows on trees and don't understand you've got to EARN IT, in the real world it doesn't get handed out on a silver platter. |
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