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| [Becks] Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:48:24 PM | |
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It's gonna be awesome, but a VERY hectic couple of days for us - the concert is in Wellington (1.5-2 hours drive away) and we have to be back home that night after the gig to fly to the USA the next morning 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:44:59 PM)| |  | spapad wrote: | | Damn it! I wish I was neuvo rich! lol I'd jet over for a good time! LOL
Sounds good!
| | | Becks wrote: | | I'm sure we'll have a good time. Trivium is one of the opening bands (I think As I Lay Dying is another, not sure) and they're not too bad, a young metal band from the States.
| | | spapad wrote: | | YES!!! Have a headbangin' glorious time! I do love them!
| | | Becks wrote: | | I'm going to see Disturbed in May
| | | spapad wrote: | | You wont get much defense from me on Priest. But, we dont' know the reasons for this being cut so short. Something had to have happened for them to just come out and quit with a world tour and NO new music. I still pray Epitaph has at least some new songs on it. I would not mind a final greatest hits if they laced it with a few new songs. I'm like all Priest fans. WHY!!!! No new CD to tour with. Hurts my feelings like nothing else and they talked like we would get that.
Something must have happened.
As for Disturbed, as long as their putting out ass kickin' metal! And have the record companies behind them, I say let them kick our asses!
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Priest absolutely do cash grab tours in America. On their Nostradamus tour they only played two songs from the album, the British Steel tour was a cash grab and so is Epitaph the tour in support of the idea of not doing any more tours. You only have to read some of the comments on this site in recent months to see how they are pissing off a lot of their fans with a lack of new product and substandard product, particularly Halford with all his reissuing of Fight/Halford material and live albums. I applaud Disturbed for what they are doing and it's great they are having mainstream success. All I said was they are a commercial metal band ie a product. No harm in that. So are Maiden, so are Metallica, so is Ozzy etc.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I would not say Priest does a cash grab in America. Afterall, it that were true each concert hall would be filled to capasity. NO.
Send me some links on the underground bands you speak of, I would love to hear them.
Disturbed is an excellent metal band and I love what they put out. They did not sell out, they just had the right promotion and a great sound. They accomplished what few bands do today. They were in the top 200 sales for U.S. for over a year, and at the top when Indestructable came out. They are the future of American Metal. IMO.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All the best metal is coming out of Europe these days. The big American Metal bands like Disturbed and Avenged Sevenfold are just a product. In saying that though, there are some great, great metal bands coming out of the States, they are just more underground and you have to look around a bit to hear their stuff. Some of these bands have been around for years but have remained under the radar rather than take the commercial road like Disturbed and co have. However you do have to give it to Disturbed, they are taking metal to a wider audience. They are over here in May actually and have toured a few times. So they are definately promoting metal in all corners of the world and reaching out to fans everywhere. Unlike Priest who tend to specialise in cash grab U.S tours trading on music they released 20+ years ago. |
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| [spapad] Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:44:59 PM | |
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Damn it! I wish I was neuvo rich! lol I'd jet over for a good time! LOL
Sounds good!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:42:52 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | I'm sure we'll have a good time. Trivium is one of the opening bands (I think As I Lay Dying is another, not sure) and they're not too bad, a young metal band from the States.
| | | spapad wrote: | | YES!!! Have a headbangin' glorious time! I do love them!
| | | Becks wrote: | | I'm going to see Disturbed in May
| | | spapad wrote: | | You wont get much defense from me on Priest. But, we dont' know the reasons for this being cut so short. Something had to have happened for them to just come out and quit with a world tour and NO new music. I still pray Epitaph has at least some new songs on it. I would not mind a final greatest hits if they laced it with a few new songs. I'm like all Priest fans. WHY!!!! No new CD to tour with. Hurts my feelings like nothing else and they talked like we would get that.
Something must have happened.
As for Disturbed, as long as their putting out ass kickin' metal! And have the record companies behind them, I say let them kick our asses!
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Priest absolutely do cash grab tours in America. On their Nostradamus tour they only played two songs from the album, the British Steel tour was a cash grab and so is Epitaph the tour in support of the idea of not doing any more tours. You only have to read some of the comments on this site in recent months to see how they are pissing off a lot of their fans with a lack of new product and substandard product, particularly Halford with all his reissuing of Fight/Halford material and live albums. I applaud Disturbed for what they are doing and it's great they are having mainstream success. All I said was they are a commercial metal band ie a product. No harm in that. So are Maiden, so are Metallica, so is Ozzy etc.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I would not say Priest does a cash grab in America. Afterall, it that were true each concert hall would be filled to capasity. NO.
Send me some links on the underground bands you speak of, I would love to hear them.
Disturbed is an excellent metal band and I love what they put out. They did not sell out, they just had the right promotion and a great sound. They accomplished what few bands do today. They were in the top 200 sales for U.S. for over a year, and at the top when Indestructable came out. They are the future of American Metal. IMO.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All the best metal is coming out of Europe these days. The big American Metal bands like Disturbed and Avenged Sevenfold are just a product. In saying that though, there are some great, great metal bands coming out of the States, they are just more underground and you have to look around a bit to hear their stuff. Some of these bands have been around for years but have remained under the radar rather than take the commercial road like Disturbed and co have. However you do have to give it to Disturbed, they are taking metal to a wider audience. They are over here in May actually and have toured a few times. So they are definately promoting metal in all corners of the world and reaching out to fans everywhere. Unlike Priest who tend to specialise in cash grab U.S tours trading on music they released 20+ years ago. |
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| [Becks] Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:42:52 PM | |
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I'm sure we'll have a good time. Trivium is one of the opening bands (I think As I Lay Dying is another, not sure) and they're not too bad, a young metal band from the States.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:34:02 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | YES!!! Have a headbangin' glorious time! I do love them!
| | | Becks wrote: | | I'm going to see Disturbed in May
| | | spapad wrote: | | You wont get much defense from me on Priest. But, we dont' know the reasons for this being cut so short. Something had to have happened for them to just come out and quit with a world tour and NO new music. I still pray Epitaph has at least some new songs on it. I would not mind a final greatest hits if they laced it with a few new songs. I'm like all Priest fans. WHY!!!! No new CD to tour with. Hurts my feelings like nothing else and they talked like we would get that.
Something must have happened.
As for Disturbed, as long as their putting out ass kickin' metal! And have the record companies behind them, I say let them kick our asses!
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Priest absolutely do cash grab tours in America. On their Nostradamus tour they only played two songs from the album, the British Steel tour was a cash grab and so is Epitaph the tour in support of the idea of not doing any more tours. You only have to read some of the comments on this site in recent months to see how they are pissing off a lot of their fans with a lack of new product and substandard product, particularly Halford with all his reissuing of Fight/Halford material and live albums. I applaud Disturbed for what they are doing and it's great they are having mainstream success. All I said was they are a commercial metal band ie a product. No harm in that. So are Maiden, so are Metallica, so is Ozzy etc.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I would not say Priest does a cash grab in America. Afterall, it that were true each concert hall would be filled to capasity. NO.
Send me some links on the underground bands you speak of, I would love to hear them.
Disturbed is an excellent metal band and I love what they put out. They did not sell out, they just had the right promotion and a great sound. They accomplished what few bands do today. They were in the top 200 sales for U.S. for over a year, and at the top when Indestructable came out. They are the future of American Metal. IMO.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All the best metal is coming out of Europe these days. The big American Metal bands like Disturbed and Avenged Sevenfold are just a product. In saying that though, there are some great, great metal bands coming out of the States, they are just more underground and you have to look around a bit to hear their stuff. Some of these bands have been around for years but have remained under the radar rather than take the commercial road like Disturbed and co have. However you do have to give it to Disturbed, they are taking metal to a wider audience. They are over here in May actually and have toured a few times. So they are definately promoting metal in all corners of the world and reaching out to fans everywhere. Unlike Priest who tend to specialise in cash grab U.S tours trading on music they released 20+ years ago. |
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| [spapad] Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:41:39 PM | |
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Many love it. Thy Commander J.D. loves it, but it's not for me. But congrats on loving it! It's all good.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by The Metallian from Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:35:08 PM)| | | The Metallian wrote: | | Well,u might as well steer clear of what i suggested!
Thought i'd try,but,this stuff is not for everyone!I understand that!
Me,i love it,i got so tired of listening to the same ol stuff over and over for the last 20+ yrs that i needed something different and exciting!
I wish i was more openminded a few years back and got into it sooner,but,better late than never!
So i remembered a few years back J.D. posting stuff about those bands!
Gave them a try and,at first the vocals were harsh,but the music,it blew me away!
So as of now,that is all i listen too,i love stuff that most people cannot stand!
Anyways:
Rock Hard Ride Free!
| | | spapad wrote: | | To be honest, I dont' like Death Metal because most of what I have heard tromps on the vocalist. I hate to listen to a song I can not hear the words to. In my opinion, if the vocals don't stand out that is because the vocalist is crap..
| | | The Metallian wrote: | | Looking for some good metal,check out some European Black and Death Metal!
| | | spapad wrote: | | You wont get much defense from me on Priest. But, we dont' know the reasons for this being cut so short. Something had to have happened for them to just come out and quit with a world tour and NO new music. I still pray Epitaph has at least some new songs on it. I would not mind a final greatest hits if they laced it with a few new songs. I'm like all Priest fans. WHY!!!! No new CD to tour with. Hurts my feelings like nothing else and they talked like we would get that.
Something must have happened.
As for Disturbed, as long as their putting out ass kickin' metal! And have the record companies behind them, I say let them kick our asses!
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Priest absolutely do cash grab tours in America. On their Nostradamus tour they only played two songs from the album, the British Steel tour was a cash grab and so is Epitaph the tour in support of the idea of not doing any more tours. You only have to read some of the comments on this site in recent months to see how they are pissing off a lot of their fans with a lack of new product and substandard product, particularly Halford with all his reissuing of Fight/Halford material and live albums. I applaud Disturbed for what they are doing and it's great they are having mainstream success. All I said was they are a commercial metal band ie a product. No harm in that. So are Maiden, so are Metallica, so is Ozzy etc.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I would not say Priest does a cash grab in America. Afterall, it that were true each concert hall would be filled to capasity. NO.
Send me some links on the underground bands you speak of, I would love to hear them.
Disturbed is an excellent metal band and I love what they put out. They did not sell out, they just had the right promotion and a great sound. They accomplished what few bands do today. They were in the top 200 sales for U.S. for over a year, and at the top when Indestructable came out. They are the future of American Metal. IMO.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All the best metal is coming out of Europe these days. The big American Metal bands like Disturbed and Avenged Sevenfold are just a product. In saying that though, there are some great, great metal bands coming out of the States, they are just more underground and you have to look around a bit to hear their stuff. Some of these bands have been around for years but have remained under the radar rather than take the commercial road like Disturbed and co have. However you do have to give it to Disturbed, they are taking metal to a wider audience. They are over here in May actually and have toured a few times. So they are definately promoting metal in all corners of the world and reaching out to fans everywhere. Unlike Priest who tend to specialise in cash grab U.S tours trading on music they released 20+ years ago. |
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| [hellrider 31038] Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:37:16 PM | |
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| [The Metallian] Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:35:08 PM | |
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Well,u might as well steer clear of what i suggested!
Thought i'd try,but,this stuff is not for everyone!I understand that!
Me,i love it,i got so tired of listening to the same ol stuff over and over for the last 20+ yrs that i needed something different and exciting!
I wish i was more openminded a few years back and got into it sooner,but,better late than never!
So i remembered a few years back J.D. posting stuff about those bands!
Gave them a try and,at first the vocals were harsh,but the music,it blew me away!
So as of now,that is all i listen too,i love stuff that most people cannot stand!
Anyways:
Rock Hard Ride Free!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:11:47 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | To be honest, I dont' like Death Metal because most of what I have heard tromps on the vocalist. I hate to listen to a song I can not hear the words to. In my opinion, if the vocals don't stand out that is because the vocalist is crap..
| | | The Metallian wrote: | | Looking for some good metal,check out some European Black and Death Metal!
| | | spapad wrote: | | You wont get much defense from me on Priest. But, we dont' know the reasons for this being cut so short. Something had to have happened for them to just come out and quit with a world tour and NO new music. I still pray Epitaph has at least some new songs on it. I would not mind a final greatest hits if they laced it with a few new songs. I'm like all Priest fans. WHY!!!! No new CD to tour with. Hurts my feelings like nothing else and they talked like we would get that.
Something must have happened.
As for Disturbed, as long as their putting out ass kickin' metal! And have the record companies behind them, I say let them kick our asses!
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Priest absolutely do cash grab tours in America. On their Nostradamus tour they only played two songs from the album, the British Steel tour was a cash grab and so is Epitaph the tour in support of the idea of not doing any more tours. You only have to read some of the comments on this site in recent months to see how they are pissing off a lot of their fans with a lack of new product and substandard product, particularly Halford with all his reissuing of Fight/Halford material and live albums. I applaud Disturbed for what they are doing and it's great they are having mainstream success. All I said was they are a commercial metal band ie a product. No harm in that. So are Maiden, so are Metallica, so is Ozzy etc.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I would not say Priest does a cash grab in America. Afterall, it that were true each concert hall would be filled to capasity. NO.
Send me some links on the underground bands you speak of, I would love to hear them.
Disturbed is an excellent metal band and I love what they put out. They did not sell out, they just had the right promotion and a great sound. They accomplished what few bands do today. They were in the top 200 sales for U.S. for over a year, and at the top when Indestructable came out. They are the future of American Metal. IMO.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All the best metal is coming out of Europe these days. The big American Metal bands like Disturbed and Avenged Sevenfold are just a product. In saying that though, there are some great, great metal bands coming out of the States, they are just more underground and you have to look around a bit to hear their stuff. Some of these bands have been around for years but have remained under the radar rather than take the commercial road like Disturbed and co have. However you do have to give it to Disturbed, they are taking metal to a wider audience. They are over here in May actually and have toured a few times. So they are definately promoting metal in all corners of the world and reaching out to fans everywhere. Unlike Priest who tend to specialise in cash grab U.S tours trading on music they released 20+ years ago. |
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| [spapad] Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:34:02 PM | |
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YES!!! Have a headbangin' glorious time! I do love them!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:28:22 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | I'm going to see Disturbed in May
| | | spapad wrote: | | You wont get much defense from me on Priest. But, we dont' know the reasons for this being cut so short. Something had to have happened for them to just come out and quit with a world tour and NO new music. I still pray Epitaph has at least some new songs on it. I would not mind a final greatest hits if they laced it with a few new songs. I'm like all Priest fans. WHY!!!! No new CD to tour with. Hurts my feelings like nothing else and they talked like we would get that.
Something must have happened.
As for Disturbed, as long as their putting out ass kickin' metal! And have the record companies behind them, I say let them kick our asses!
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Priest absolutely do cash grab tours in America. On their Nostradamus tour they only played two songs from the album, the British Steel tour was a cash grab and so is Epitaph the tour in support of the idea of not doing any more tours. You only have to read some of the comments on this site in recent months to see how they are pissing off a lot of their fans with a lack of new product and substandard product, particularly Halford with all his reissuing of Fight/Halford material and live albums. I applaud Disturbed for what they are doing and it's great they are having mainstream success. All I said was they are a commercial metal band ie a product. No harm in that. So are Maiden, so are Metallica, so is Ozzy etc.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I would not say Priest does a cash grab in America. Afterall, it that were true each concert hall would be filled to capasity. NO.
Send me some links on the underground bands you speak of, I would love to hear them.
Disturbed is an excellent metal band and I love what they put out. They did not sell out, they just had the right promotion and a great sound. They accomplished what few bands do today. They were in the top 200 sales for U.S. for over a year, and at the top when Indestructable came out. They are the future of American Metal. IMO.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All the best metal is coming out of Europe these days. The big American Metal bands like Disturbed and Avenged Sevenfold are just a product. In saying that though, there are some great, great metal bands coming out of the States, they are just more underground and you have to look around a bit to hear their stuff. Some of these bands have been around for years but have remained under the radar rather than take the commercial road like Disturbed and co have. However you do have to give it to Disturbed, they are taking metal to a wider audience. They are over here in May actually and have toured a few times. So they are definately promoting metal in all corners of the world and reaching out to fans everywhere. Unlike Priest who tend to specialise in cash grab U.S tours trading on music they released 20+ years ago. |
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| [Becks] Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:28:22 PM | |
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I'm going to see Disturbed in May
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:03:38 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | You wont get much defense from me on Priest. But, we dont' know the reasons for this being cut so short. Something had to have happened for them to just come out and quit with a world tour and NO new music. I still pray Epitaph has at least some new songs on it. I would not mind a final greatest hits if they laced it with a few new songs. I'm like all Priest fans. WHY!!!! No new CD to tour with. Hurts my feelings like nothing else and they talked like we would get that.
Something must have happened.
As for Disturbed, as long as their putting out ass kickin' metal! And have the record companies behind them, I say let them kick our asses!
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Priest absolutely do cash grab tours in America. On their Nostradamus tour they only played two songs from the album, the British Steel tour was a cash grab and so is Epitaph the tour in support of the idea of not doing any more tours. You only have to read some of the comments on this site in recent months to see how they are pissing off a lot of their fans with a lack of new product and substandard product, particularly Halford with all his reissuing of Fight/Halford material and live albums. I applaud Disturbed for what they are doing and it's great they are having mainstream success. All I said was they are a commercial metal band ie a product. No harm in that. So are Maiden, so are Metallica, so is Ozzy etc.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I would not say Priest does a cash grab in America. Afterall, it that were true each concert hall would be filled to capasity. NO.
Send me some links on the underground bands you speak of, I would love to hear them.
Disturbed is an excellent metal band and I love what they put out. They did not sell out, they just had the right promotion and a great sound. They accomplished what few bands do today. They were in the top 200 sales for U.S. for over a year, and at the top when Indestructable came out. They are the future of American Metal. IMO.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All the best metal is coming out of Europe these days. The big American Metal bands like Disturbed and Avenged Sevenfold are just a product. In saying that though, there are some great, great metal bands coming out of the States, they are just more underground and you have to look around a bit to hear their stuff. Some of these bands have been around for years but have remained under the radar rather than take the commercial road like Disturbed and co have. However you do have to give it to Disturbed, they are taking metal to a wider audience. They are over here in May actually and have toured a few times. So they are definately promoting metal in all corners of the world and reaching out to fans everywhere. Unlike Priest who tend to specialise in cash grab U.S tours trading on music they released 20+ years ago. |
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| [spapad] Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:26:15 PM | |
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Sadly, kinda what I have been thinking.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:12:53 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I really think they just can't be bothered. I don't think they are exactly friends. Halford leaving in the early 90s would have been pretty gutwrenching for the other members. Their relationship these days is purely a business one I believe. I think they only reformed back in 04 because old school metal made a comeback and bands like Maiden and Motley Crue etc were back on top and they saw it as an opportunity to make some good money before retiring. Most people retire in their 60s. Aside from Scott who is a hired gun they are all 60 or there abouts. I think they figure why go on. The spark isn't there any more. AOR is good but not great, Nostradamus is shit. Lets quit while we're ahead before plunging another million dollars into an album that won't recoup what is spent on it. Final tour then go their seperate ways.
| | | spapad wrote: | | You wont get much defense from me on Priest. But, we dont' know the reasons for this being cut so short. Something had to have happened for them to just come out and quit with a world tour and NO new music. I still pray Epitaph has at least some new songs on it. I would not mind a final greatest hits if they laced it with a few new songs. I'm like all Priest fans. WHY!!!! No new CD to tour with. Hurts my feelings like nothing else and they talked like we would get that.
Something must have happened.
As for Disturbed, as long as their putting out ass kickin' metal! And have the record companies behind them, I say let them kick our asses!
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Priest absolutely do cash grab tours in America. On their Nostradamus tour they only played two songs from the album, the British Steel tour was a cash grab and so is Epitaph the tour in support of the idea of not doing any more tours. You only have to read some of the comments on this site in recent months to see how they are pissing off a lot of their fans with a lack of new product and substandard product, particularly Halford with all his reissuing of Fight/Halford material and live albums. I applaud Disturbed for what they are doing and it's great they are having mainstream success. All I said was they are a commercial metal band ie a product. No harm in that. So are Maiden, so are Metallica, so is Ozzy etc.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I would not say Priest does a cash grab in America. Afterall, it that were true each concert hall would be filled to capasity. NO.
Send me some links on the underground bands you speak of, I would love to hear them.
Disturbed is an excellent metal band and I love what they put out. They did not sell out, they just had the right promotion and a great sound. They accomplished what few bands do today. They were in the top 200 sales for U.S. for over a year, and at the top when Indestructable came out. They are the future of American Metal. IMO.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All the best metal is coming out of Europe these days. The big American Metal bands like Disturbed and Avenged Sevenfold are just a product. In saying that though, there are some great, great metal bands coming out of the States, they are just more underground and you have to look around a bit to hear their stuff. Some of these bands have been around for years but have remained under the radar rather than take the commercial road like Disturbed and co have. However you do have to give it to Disturbed, they are taking metal to a wider audience. They are over here in May actually and have toured a few times. So they are definately promoting metal in all corners of the world and reaching out to fans everywhere. Unlike Priest who tend to specialise in cash grab U.S tours trading on music they released 20+ years ago. |
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| [jimmyjames] Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:12:53 PM | |
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I really think they just can't be bothered. I don't think they are exactly friends. Halford leaving in the early 90s would have been pretty gutwrenching for the other members. Their relationship these days is purely a business one I believe. I think they only reformed back in 04 because old school metal made a comeback and bands like Maiden and Motley Crue etc were back on top and they saw it as an opportunity to make some good money before retiring. Most people retire in their 60s. Aside from Scott who is a hired gun they are all 60 or there abouts. I think they figure why go on. The spark isn't there any more. AOR is good but not great, Nostradamus is shit. Lets quit while we're ahead before plunging another million dollars into an album that won't recoup what is spent on it. Final tour then go their seperate ways.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:03:38 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | You wont get much defense from me on Priest. But, we dont' know the reasons for this being cut so short. Something had to have happened for them to just come out and quit with a world tour and NO new music. I still pray Epitaph has at least some new songs on it. I would not mind a final greatest hits if they laced it with a few new songs. I'm like all Priest fans. WHY!!!! No new CD to tour with. Hurts my feelings like nothing else and they talked like we would get that.
Something must have happened.
As for Disturbed, as long as their putting out ass kickin' metal! And have the record companies behind them, I say let them kick our asses!
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Priest absolutely do cash grab tours in America. On their Nostradamus tour they only played two songs from the album, the British Steel tour was a cash grab and so is Epitaph the tour in support of the idea of not doing any more tours. You only have to read some of the comments on this site in recent months to see how they are pissing off a lot of their fans with a lack of new product and substandard product, particularly Halford with all his reissuing of Fight/Halford material and live albums. I applaud Disturbed for what they are doing and it's great they are having mainstream success. All I said was they are a commercial metal band ie a product. No harm in that. So are Maiden, so are Metallica, so is Ozzy etc.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I would not say Priest does a cash grab in America. Afterall, it that were true each concert hall would be filled to capasity. NO.
Send me some links on the underground bands you speak of, I would love to hear them.
Disturbed is an excellent metal band and I love what they put out. They did not sell out, they just had the right promotion and a great sound. They accomplished what few bands do today. They were in the top 200 sales for U.S. for over a year, and at the top when Indestructable came out. They are the future of American Metal. IMO.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All the best metal is coming out of Europe these days. The big American Metal bands like Disturbed and Avenged Sevenfold are just a product. In saying that though, there are some great, great metal bands coming out of the States, they are just more underground and you have to look around a bit to hear their stuff. Some of these bands have been around for years but have remained under the radar rather than take the commercial road like Disturbed and co have. However you do have to give it to Disturbed, they are taking metal to a wider audience. They are over here in May actually and have toured a few times. So they are definately promoting metal in all corners of the world and reaching out to fans everywhere. Unlike Priest who tend to specialise in cash grab U.S tours trading on music they released 20+ years ago. |
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| [spapad] Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:11:47 PM | |
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To be honest, I dont' like Death Metal because most of what I have heard tromps on the vocalist. I hate to listen to a song I can not hear the words to. In my opinion, if the vocals don't stand out that is because the vocalist is crap..
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by The Metallian from Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:07:19 PM)| | | The Metallian wrote: | | Looking for some good metal,check out some European Black and Death Metal!
| | | spapad wrote: | | You wont get much defense from me on Priest. But, we dont' know the reasons for this being cut so short. Something had to have happened for them to just come out and quit with a world tour and NO new music. I still pray Epitaph has at least some new songs on it. I would not mind a final greatest hits if they laced it with a few new songs. I'm like all Priest fans. WHY!!!! No new CD to tour with. Hurts my feelings like nothing else and they talked like we would get that.
Something must have happened.
As for Disturbed, as long as their putting out ass kickin' metal! And have the record companies behind them, I say let them kick our asses!
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Priest absolutely do cash grab tours in America. On their Nostradamus tour they only played two songs from the album, the British Steel tour was a cash grab and so is Epitaph the tour in support of the idea of not doing any more tours. You only have to read some of the comments on this site in recent months to see how they are pissing off a lot of their fans with a lack of new product and substandard product, particularly Halford with all his reissuing of Fight/Halford material and live albums. I applaud Disturbed for what they are doing and it's great they are having mainstream success. All I said was they are a commercial metal band ie a product. No harm in that. So are Maiden, so are Metallica, so is Ozzy etc.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I would not say Priest does a cash grab in America. Afterall, it that were true each concert hall would be filled to capasity. NO.
Send me some links on the underground bands you speak of, I would love to hear them.
Disturbed is an excellent metal band and I love what they put out. They did not sell out, they just had the right promotion and a great sound. They accomplished what few bands do today. They were in the top 200 sales for U.S. for over a year, and at the top when Indestructable came out. They are the future of American Metal. IMO.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All the best metal is coming out of Europe these days. The big American Metal bands like Disturbed and Avenged Sevenfold are just a product. In saying that though, there are some great, great metal bands coming out of the States, they are just more underground and you have to look around a bit to hear their stuff. Some of these bands have been around for years but have remained under the radar rather than take the commercial road like Disturbed and co have. However you do have to give it to Disturbed, they are taking metal to a wider audience. They are over here in May actually and have toured a few times. So they are definately promoting metal in all corners of the world and reaching out to fans everywhere. Unlike Priest who tend to specialise in cash grab U.S tours trading on music they released 20+ years ago. |
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| [The Metallian] Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:07:19 PM | |
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Looking for some good metal,check out some European Black and Death Metal!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:03:38 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | You wont get much defense from me on Priest. But, we dont' know the reasons for this being cut so short. Something had to have happened for them to just come out and quit with a world tour and NO new music. I still pray Epitaph has at least some new songs on it. I would not mind a final greatest hits if they laced it with a few new songs. I'm like all Priest fans. WHY!!!! No new CD to tour with. Hurts my feelings like nothing else and they talked like we would get that.
Something must have happened.
As for Disturbed, as long as their putting out ass kickin' metal! And have the record companies behind them, I say let them kick our asses!
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Priest absolutely do cash grab tours in America. On their Nostradamus tour they only played two songs from the album, the British Steel tour was a cash grab and so is Epitaph the tour in support of the idea of not doing any more tours. You only have to read some of the comments on this site in recent months to see how they are pissing off a lot of their fans with a lack of new product and substandard product, particularly Halford with all his reissuing of Fight/Halford material and live albums. I applaud Disturbed for what they are doing and it's great they are having mainstream success. All I said was they are a commercial metal band ie a product. No harm in that. So are Maiden, so are Metallica, so is Ozzy etc.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I would not say Priest does a cash grab in America. Afterall, it that were true each concert hall would be filled to capasity. NO.
Send me some links on the underground bands you speak of, I would love to hear them.
Disturbed is an excellent metal band and I love what they put out. They did not sell out, they just had the right promotion and a great sound. They accomplished what few bands do today. They were in the top 200 sales for U.S. for over a year, and at the top when Indestructable came out. They are the future of American Metal. IMO.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All the best metal is coming out of Europe these days. The big American Metal bands like Disturbed and Avenged Sevenfold are just a product. In saying that though, there are some great, great metal bands coming out of the States, they are just more underground and you have to look around a bit to hear their stuff. Some of these bands have been around for years but have remained under the radar rather than take the commercial road like Disturbed and co have. However you do have to give it to Disturbed, they are taking metal to a wider audience. They are over here in May actually and have toured a few times. So they are definately promoting metal in all corners of the world and reaching out to fans everywhere. Unlike Priest who tend to specialise in cash grab U.S tours trading on music they released 20+ years ago. |
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| [spapad] Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:03:38 PM | |
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You wont get much defense from me on Priest. But, we dont' know the reasons for this being cut so short. Something had to have happened for them to just come out and quit with a world tour and NO new music. I still pray Epitaph has at least some new songs on it. I would not mind a final greatest hits if they laced it with a few new songs. I'm like all Priest fans. WHY!!!! No new CD to tour with. Hurts my feelings like nothing else and they talked like we would get that.
Something must have happened.
As for Disturbed, as long as their putting out ass kickin' metal! And have the record companies behind them, I say let them kick our asses!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, January 08, 2011 5:43:53 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Priest absolutely do cash grab tours in America. On their Nostradamus tour they only played two songs from the album, the British Steel tour was a cash grab and so is Epitaph the tour in support of the idea of not doing any more tours. You only have to read some of the comments on this site in recent months to see how they are pissing off a lot of their fans with a lack of new product and substandard product, particularly Halford with all his reissuing of Fight/Halford material and live albums. I applaud Disturbed for what they are doing and it's great they are having mainstream success. All I said was they are a commercial metal band ie a product. No harm in that. So are Maiden, so are Metallica, so is Ozzy etc.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I would not say Priest does a cash grab in America. Afterall, it that were true each concert hall would be filled to capasity. NO.
Send me some links on the underground bands you speak of, I would love to hear them.
Disturbed is an excellent metal band and I love what they put out. They did not sell out, they just had the right promotion and a great sound. They accomplished what few bands do today. They were in the top 200 sales for U.S. for over a year, and at the top when Indestructable came out. They are the future of American Metal. IMO.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All the best metal is coming out of Europe these days. The big American Metal bands like Disturbed and Avenged Sevenfold are just a product. In saying that though, there are some great, great metal bands coming out of the States, they are just more underground and you have to look around a bit to hear their stuff. Some of these bands have been around for years but have remained under the radar rather than take the commercial road like Disturbed and co have. However you do have to give it to Disturbed, they are taking metal to a wider audience. They are over here in May actually and have toured a few times. So they are definately promoting metal in all corners of the world and reaching out to fans everywhere. Unlike Priest who tend to specialise in cash grab U.S tours trading on music they released 20+ years ago. |
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| [jimmyjames] Saturday, January 08, 2011 5:43:53 PM | |
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Priest absolutely do cash grab tours in America. On their Nostradamus tour they only played two songs from the album, the British Steel tour was a cash grab and so is Epitaph the tour in support of the idea of not doing any more tours. You only have to read some of the comments on this site in recent months to see how they are pissing off a lot of their fans with a lack of new product and substandard product, particularly Halford with all his reissuing of Fight/Halford material and live albums. I applaud Disturbed for what they are doing and it's great they are having mainstream success. All I said was they are a commercial metal band ie a product. No harm in that. So are Maiden, so are Metallica, so is Ozzy etc.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, January 08, 2011 5:19:25 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | I would not say Priest does a cash grab in America. Afterall, it that were true each concert hall would be filled to capasity. NO.
Send me some links on the underground bands you speak of, I would love to hear them.
Disturbed is an excellent metal band and I love what they put out. They did not sell out, they just had the right promotion and a great sound. They accomplished what few bands do today. They were in the top 200 sales for U.S. for over a year, and at the top when Indestructable came out. They are the future of American Metal. IMO.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All the best metal is coming out of Europe these days. The big American Metal bands like Disturbed and Avenged Sevenfold are just a product. In saying that though, there are some great, great metal bands coming out of the States, they are just more underground and you have to look around a bit to hear their stuff. Some of these bands have been around for years but have remained under the radar rather than take the commercial road like Disturbed and co have. However you do have to give it to Disturbed, they are taking metal to a wider audience. They are over here in May actually and have toured a few times. So they are definately promoting metal in all corners of the world and reaching out to fans everywhere. Unlike Priest who tend to specialise in cash grab U.S tours trading on music they released 20+ years ago. |
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| [spapad] Saturday, January 08, 2011 5:19:25 PM | |
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I would not say Priest does a cash grab in America. Afterall, it that were true each concert hall would be filled to capasity. NO.
Send me some links on the underground bands you speak of, I would love to hear them.
Disturbed is an excellent metal band and I love what they put out. They did not sell out, they just had the right promotion and a great sound. They accomplished what few bands do today. They were in the top 200 sales for U.S. for over a year, and at the top when Indestructable came out. They are the future of American Metal. IMO.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, January 08, 2011 4:12:51 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All the best metal is coming out of Europe these days. The big American Metal bands like Disturbed and Avenged Sevenfold are just a product. In saying that though, there are some great, great metal bands coming out of the States, they are just more underground and you have to look around a bit to hear their stuff. Some of these bands have been around for years but have remained under the radar rather than take the commercial road like Disturbed and co have. However you do have to give it to Disturbed, they are taking metal to a wider audience. They are over here in May actually and have toured a few times. So they are definately promoting metal in all corners of the world and reaching out to fans everywhere. Unlike Priest who tend to specialise in cash grab U.S tours trading on music they released 20+ years ago. |
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| [jimmyjames] Saturday, January 08, 2011 4:12:51 PM | |
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All the best metal is coming out of Europe these days. The big American Metal bands like Disturbed and Avenged Sevenfold are just a product. In saying that though, there are some great, great metal bands coming out of the States, they are just more underground and you have to look around a bit to hear their stuff. Some of these bands have been around for years but have remained under the radar rather than take the commercial road like Disturbed and co have. However you do have to give it to Disturbed, they are taking metal to a wider audience. They are over here in May actually and have toured a few times. So they are definately promoting metal in all corners of the world and reaching out to fans everywhere. Unlike Priest who tend to specialise in cash grab U.S tours trading on music they released 20+ years ago. |
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| [spapad] Saturday, January 08, 2011 3:44:10 PM | |
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I love 'em!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, January 08, 2011 3:33:38 PM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | we could do worse than to have disturbed as a new metal leader in 10 years
| | | spapad wrote: | | Disturbed it in there.........not a bad thing. I hope Disturbed will teach a whole new metal generation some things.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | metal can evolve. it will not stay the same for sure, but if it evolves and grows then thats a start. there will always be people who want traditional, but thats another word for old. its not bad to have new sound. dont know if I want trivium and avenged to be leading the change, but... what to do.
this is the same in pop, rock, even country. mind you, they all suck to me, but they always did.
| | | sentinel84 wrote: | | | yes metal is dying. Look at how many great metal artist are no longer with us, ronnie James dio, dimebag darrell, cliff burton, and on top of it all priest calling it quits! There cannot be heavy metal without the metal gods! Bands such as trivium and avenged sevenfold can go to hell cause they will never be as great and godly as priest or pantera or any other great metal band was.
There are a few young band that I feel will keep carrying the torch for metal: dekapitator (2007 album storm before the calm feels like it should have been released in 1987)
black tide (great young metal band)
But overall metal is going downhill fast. There will never in the history of metal be a band that achieved the greatness/godlyness that a band like priest or megadeth achieved. |
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| [Head banger] Saturday, January 08, 2011 3:33:38 PM | |
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we could do worse than to have disturbed as a new metal leader in 10 years
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, January 08, 2011 1:04:33 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Disturbed it in there.........not a bad thing. I hope Disturbed will teach a whole new metal generation some things.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | metal can evolve. it will not stay the same for sure, but if it evolves and grows then thats a start. there will always be people who want traditional, but thats another word for old. its not bad to have new sound. dont know if I want trivium and avenged to be leading the change, but... what to do.
this is the same in pop, rock, even country. mind you, they all suck to me, but they always did.
| | | sentinel84 wrote: | | | yes metal is dying. Look at how many great metal artist are no longer with us, ronnie James dio, dimebag darrell, cliff burton, and on top of it all priest calling it quits! There cannot be heavy metal without the metal gods! Bands such as trivium and avenged sevenfold can go to hell cause they will never be as great and godly as priest or pantera or any other great metal band was.
There are a few young band that I feel will keep carrying the torch for metal: dekapitator (2007 album storm before the calm feels like it should have been released in 1987)
black tide (great young metal band)
But overall metal is going downhill fast. There will never in the history of metal be a band that achieved the greatness/godlyness that a band like priest or megadeth achieved. |
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| [Budred] Saturday, January 08, 2011 2:20:56 PM | |
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That's a cool picture and story. I think Drowning Pool is awesome. A very good live band. I have a video of them from
Rock on the Range. People think metal is dying but you had to see the size of the crowd and the enthusiasm in it. Very
high energy. I would put it up but the quality is poor and I don't have it on youtube.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Thursday, January 06, 2011 8:42:23 PM)| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | Absolutely a given as a fan as far as I'm concerned too Becks! I think it's very important to support the bands that you love because if you don't, they may not be around long. Besides, you can't get an illegal download autographed now can you??? Although I heard Ripper once say that someone gave him a downloaded CD to sign. Jesus, now that takes some balls doesn't it? My sons think it's really cool that we have gotten some of our old LPs that we had as kids autographed and they want to be able to do the same thing. Parents set the biggest examples for their kids and ours see us buying CDs all the time, not stealing it. When we talk about it, they both think it's really wrong and even say "How does the band make any money then?"
I still can't believe how unbelievably cool Drowning Pool was! 11 years old and my son got on their tour bus!!! I've NEVER been on a tour bus and I don't think I ever will be. I was at home with our youngest son. Here's a picture of them
 
| | | Becks wrote: | | That's awesome HRMG! I think that buying the CDs to support your favourite bands is so so important. I ALWAYS buy my CDs, to me it's a given as a fan.
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | I agree Hellrider! My almost 12 year old asked for various metal CD's for Christmas and then he used his Christmas money to buy more! When his dad took him to see Drowning Pool, they did the meet and greet with them and my son got to go on their tour bus with them! He was in heaven and just took everything in. When Mark pulled out all their CD's for them to sign, he saw the reaction of the band and how much they appreciated the fact that we BOUGHT all their stuff. The ENTIRE band signed every single CD booklet AND the CD itself. He wants the CD's to look at the art and lyrics. He even gave his little brother the Painkiller CD for Christmas! So MY little metalheads will be keeping the metal faith alive and BUYING the music that they love
| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | i have been doing alot of thinking about this whole thing with the part of my brain that works and possibly its the MEEEETTTTTAAALLLLLLLLLL BEEEEETTTTRRRRAAAAYYYYEEEERRRRSSSSSSS that are killing it for us all.
ITS TIME TO PUT A STOP TO IT
MEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL BEEEETTTTRRRRRRAAAAYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
any parents out there please educate your kids about this
| | | soccer star wrote: | | With Priest the Scorpions and maybe Iron Maiden ready to call it a day,is this another nail in the coffin for Trad Metal? who will be next to bow out of the world of Heavy Metal ... Sabbath ? Ozzy, AC/DC ? Metallica ?
all these bands have seen better days and none can top anything that they have done in the past so....are we soon to see to end of 'metal' as we know it??
This along with the Death of the 'Great' Ronnie James Dio leave's me worried for the future of our beloved style of music....
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