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The Great Van Halen question
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David Lee Roth or Sammy Hagar?






   

[SkyRideR] Friday, July 03, 2009 11:53:18 AM 

where in the world is eddie???

sammy and michael with santriani in chickenfoot...

[british.steel] Thursday, July 02, 2009 11:10:07 AM 
poor waldo??!?!!? are you kidding? didnt they show him at the end with all those hot girls? and alex was a guynacologist? hahaha
[Mr. Dave Genocide] Thursday, July 02, 2009 12:11:49 AM 
Wow, coincidence. I just learned Hot For Teacher on my drum kit (July 1st). From beginning to end, kick fucking ass. 
Thank you, Alex!!

<<Ludwig - Paiaste - Vic Firth; style among brilliance>>

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[spapad] Wednesday, July 01, 2009 9:27:43 PM 

Re-thought it, I'm more impressed with the sexy Teacher in a banner walking down the tables! HA!! Too funny, yeah Eddie is on a very long table but the Teacher's got it over on him! LOL Poor Waldo,  I'd  bet he grew up to be the nicest looking of the bunch. So many times ugly kids turn out to be handsom/beautiful adults. LOL 

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[guidogodoy] Wednesday, July 01, 2009 9:26:39 PM 
Longest tables in the world! ==> Eddie walking in the library.
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[spapad] Wednesday, July 01, 2009 9:24:39 PM 
Oh my God, I remember this Vid! LOL
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Wednesday, July 01, 2009 9:23:34 PM)
[guidogodoy] Wednesday, July 01, 2009 9:23:34 PM 
[dsfulker] Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:02:28 AM 
Diamond Dave FTW! Not a big fan of Van HAGAR. Just didn't work for me, although they did manage to put out a few good tunes. But the sound was just not Van Halen without Dave.
[ron h] Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:36:21 AM 
I'll 2nd, 3rd and 4th that!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:15:35 PM)
[Necroticist] Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:15:35 PM 
Said b4 = simple...Van Hager and any other singer apart from Dave is just crap...
[jimmyjames] Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:13:04 PM 
Van Halen with Sammy Hagar were crap, just boring middle of the road american rock. All of their Hagar albums are shit, a couple of singles plus a whole bunch of filler. David Lee Roth is way better.
[CountessErzebethBathory9] Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:01:37 PM 
The Only ONE..David Lee Roth!!  ...He kicks ass..
[ron h] Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:35:40 PM 
I got that!!!   
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:22:39 PM)
[guidogodoy] Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:22:39 PM 
You must have been sitting in my area. HAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:55:42 PM 
! Yeah, I'm sure I could have picked you right out of the capacity crowd. Hell, I could barely see straight through the cloud of pot smoke in my area . Why didn't you come find ME? I was wearing my Priest shirt!
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[Phantom A6] Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:48:24 PM 
   
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:39:39 PM)
[guidogodoy] Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:46:11 PM 
Hey! I was AT that show! Look at my profile. Isn't that the shirt? (sans sleeves?)

Why didn't you come over and say "hi?" HAAA!!!!
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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:39:39 PM 
After seeing Van Hagar headlining the Monsters of Rock tour in 1988 at the Pontiac Silverdome, I have boycotted EVERYTHING Hagar has done!! He had the nerve to TALK the lyrics to "Running with the Devil" and "Jamies Crying"!! I was in complete disbelief screaming WHAT THE !! He completely BUTCHERED 2 of my favorite Van Halen songs. Alex and Eddie were too drunk/high to care apparently. I took it as a HUGE slap in the face to each and every old VAN HALEN fan in the audience. They even let Hagar perform some of his solo songs during that show and he still had the balls to do that? I lost all respect for him and refuse to listen to anything he does anymore.

Seriously, if Ripper had done something like that  (which he NEVER would have because he has too much respect for Priest), KK, Glenn, Ian and Scott would have dragged him off stage and pounded him until he SANG the songs CORRECTLY! But PRIEST has CLASS and RESPECTS their fans and took their time to find someone who could fill Rob's incredible shoes.

So for me, it's David Lee Roth! Sammy can take his huge ego and shove it!
[british.steel] Thursday, June 18, 2009 2:32:31 PM 
i dont know, i like zakk wylde and his work with ozzy was great. but in my opinion his style is a little annoying because all the pinch harmonics just seem very unneccesary. EVH passes wylde by aLONG shot
[Diamond Jim] Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:53:25 PM 
Left in the dust by Zakk Wylde????    Please, I don't think so. Eddie rules!!!! 
[Amboydukes] Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:22:31 AM 
EVH WAS influential. WAS is key word. He has been left in the dust by the likes of Zakk Wylde an others. I believe EVH has lost his creativity. Give me the guitar work the Nugent does on the Craveman album any day of the week over anything EVH has done in 20 years.
[british.steel] Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:15:38 AM 
and EVH isnt the greatest guitarist ever amboydukes, i agree with you. but i wouldnt call him boring, his style is unique and exciting. he is very very influential and the tapping is just awesome. i think their are many players better than him, such as K.K. downing, and Glenn Tipton, :)
[british.steel] Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:34:24 AM 
Exactly! if Eddie Van Halen were to die or sumthin (which wouldnt happend cuz gods are immortal...hahah) they would have to stop. theres no replacing him, much like when Bohnam died in 1980, led zepppelin stopped. sure they have had a handful of concerts since, but u will never find another EVH, not even in a tribute band. lol
[Amboydukes] Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:34:23 AM 
I think overall that VH was better with DLR than Hagar....but. VH with Hagar did a version of Wild Thing during a concert, that was recorded on King Biscuit Flower Hour and I believe can be found on an Import, that was awesome. EVH and Hagar traded off soloing and they out right jammed on it. This could not have been done with DLR. You can find VH with Hagar doing Wild Thing at other concerts but the one off of King Biscuit was the best. Also, please no one refer to EVH as the greatest guitarist ever. He has not done anhything on guitar worthy of that mantel since before DLR left the band. His guitarmanship now can best be described as BORING.
[Diamond Jim] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:47:14 PM 
Exactly british.steel!! Without Eddie Van Halen they would be nothing! He's the creative force behind the band. They were fine without DLR but if Eddie was not there they would be HIS-TO-RY!

The Ambassador

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[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 6:05:09 PM 
**ouch**  Well, I think I need to go get the barbeque started!!! I will check back later!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[LOST LOVE] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 6:05:04 PM 

Cool. Thats wild that he found out he had cancer and then his wife left him. But he can get any babe he wants. 

[Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!!] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 6:03:54 PM 
Ya i just checked, Eddie was born in 55. He is 54 years young this year!
[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 6:00:03 PM 
I think it is in remission.

Yeah, I think he is. So is Eddie..somewhere in there. MAN! That hurts!! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[LOST LOVE] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:58:42 PM 
What ever happened with Edies cancer? 
[Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!!] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:57:47 PM 
Isn't Roth like 55 now??
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[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:57:03 PM 
OLD??!?!?!?!? They are MY age!!!! HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!!] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:54:52 PM 
Guess we got await and see if an album actually does come out. It might be one of the chinese democracy deals, only this time somebody might pass away or something. There getting pretty old now.
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[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:24:30 PM 
OH? Well, it is just my opinion, man. Really. They just don't do much for me right now. Same with Owens when he was with Priest. That music does NOT sound like Priest to me. Sounds WAY too "modern" and edgy to be Priest. Again, opinion.
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[Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!!] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:19:45 PM 
Damn i hope not, at the show they were on fire man, honestly one of the best shows ive seen. They were talking about putting out a new album with Roth and i hope it goes through. That would rule!!! 20 years later....again with Roth!!! But who knows maybe we can blame it all on Eddie's kid Wolfgang, hahaha. Its all that little basterds fault!!! He was actually a pretty talented bassist for being in his early 20's i think maybe even younger.
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[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:06:54 PM 
HAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!! Oh, I do understand. I truly do.

Roth's voice is a big part of VH for me as well. It reminds me of their first couple albums. Eddie is a genius, I know that. He is great. but Roth and his style helped to define VH and they have not been the same without him. In fact, they are not the same WITH him anymore. The special something they had in '78 is gone, from what I have heard.
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[Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!!] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:01:48 PM 
I agree, Sammy could blow away Roth in a singing contest. But I feel Roth is the right man for VH. He's got the act for the show, seeing them live with Roth was the VH i want to see again. By the way  DF, i try and let it go, but certian people tend to grind my gears the wrong way, it really cheeses me off when people rip on Halford. He's the Metal God for crying out loud.
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[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 4:53:11 PM 
To be very honest, I have never really considered DLR a "great vocalist" at all. I think he is a showman and a TREMENDOUS front man. An entertainer. A "pretty face" (years ago) that the ladies love. Vocally speaking, he is not all that good (as far as I am concerned) but he has that ability to work a crowd that makes him a great "Rock Front man". Hagar has far more vocal control and musicianship but I am not a fan of him at all.

Roth is more like Mick Jagger for me. Jagger is not a "great" vocalist , either. He is an accomplished showman. He also is a musical genius and I say that  because he has the longevity to back it up! Anyway, to stay on "topic", I would vote Roth all the way. I enjoyed VH when they first hit the scene and stopped caring when Roth left.
[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 4:46:02 PM 
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah well, if it makes you feel any better, the ALL do it for attention and nothing else. Don't let it get to you, bro!
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 4:45:39 PM 
I hate Van Halen,and Sammy Hagar,don't like either bands or vocalists. But I would have to go with David Lee Roth as being the better vocalist,and better persona for the band "Van Halen".
[Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!!] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 4:44:18 PM 
Thanks DF, some guys arent happy unless you beat what you meant into their brains, like a certian member who has a hate on for Halford.
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[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 4:38:53 PM 
Well dime, SOME guys have made a "career" out of it here!!! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No sweat, man! I knew what you meant!!!!
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[Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!!] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 4:32:21 PM 
Buddy get over yourself, im just saying that IMO (DO YOU KNOW WHAT IMO MEANS??.....IN MY OPINION) DLR is a better Vocalist than Hagar. The ORINGINAL line up was with David Lee Roth so in saying that, he was a part of their original sound. They became more popish with Hagar. I like i few songs with hagar but i like the older stuff better. You don't agree with me then fine thats your opinion, but your not calling me out on shit, your going to call someone out on their opinion? Everyone has different opinions on here man, you'll notice that after you 20th post, so either accept it or maybe find a new website, you wont last on here "calling people out"
[Phantom A6] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 3:12:56 PM 
Just you don't want it!!
Better antics than your fricken stuff!!

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[british.steel] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:27:26 AM 
DJ very very well put. I couldnt have said it better myself...u cant just stick anyother guitar player up there, with no eddie, there is no van halen. i just wish he would get his cool EVH Frankenstine guitar back!
[Diamond Jim] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:09:16 AM 
    No one wants to discuss your silly antics. LOL!
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[Diamond Jim] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:04:47 AM 
Sorry man but I have to call you out on this one. Eddie Van Halen is the most influential and original guitar player of the last 30 years and you say David Lee Roth is Van Halen. I don't think so. Eddie Van Halen is the sound and always will be. Yeah Roth is part of the original sound but they continued on just fine with Sammy Hagar. You can replace Roth but Eddie can never be replaced.
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[pip] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:54:54 AM 
VH1 IS HAVING  A SHOW CALLED THE GREAT DEBATE STARTING JULY 6TH I BELIEVE

ONE OF THE TOPICS IF ROTH VS HAGAR --THERE'S OTHER DEBATES BUT THAT'S THE ONE THAT STICKS OUT IN MY MIND--WILL DEFINITELY HAVE TO CHECK IT OUT !!
[Phantom A6] Tuesday, June 16, 2009 6:18:57 AM 
Darryn, no-one wants to discuss with you!! 

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[Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!!] Monday, June 15, 2009 9:13:38 PM 
Excatly!!!
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