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BRAAAAAVO!!!!!!   .....GOOD FOR YOU PIP!....I ECHO YOUR SENTIMENTS...FIIIINALLY,SOMEBODY ELSE WITH ENOUGH BACKBONE ON HERE,TO NOT FALL IN WITH THE GROUP OF DICTATORS ON HERE,TO TELL THESE TIN-PLATED LITTLE SOLDIERS
(BOTH SEXES BY THE WAY) AROUND HERE TO LAY OFF PEOPLE'S POSTING CHOICES!!!...YOU WANNA POST AN OPINION,POST IT!...YOU DON'T LIKE IT,FINE!...BACK THE HELL OFF WITH YOUR NAME CALLING,AND RULES OF WHAT YOU THINK SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T GO WHERE!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by pip from Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:48:09 AM)| |  | pip wrote: | | I've just about had it with this board---it doesn't matter what someone writes about a band--it's up to each individual to interpret IN THEIR OPINION what a band is classified--I happen to think IN MY OPINION that Winger is heavy metal to some extent--the list hotrockin' typed had Def Leppard as 1 of the heavy metal bands--I think IN MY OPINION that Def Leppard is NOT a heavy metal band---
It seems to me that if 1 person posts something & everyone disagrees then that person is called names & *told off * just because they like someone else
We are all equals & we are also all individuals with our own minds & we have the freedom to post what we want
To tell someone to post in another topic is crazy--just because their beliefs aren't the same
Everyone likes David Lee Roth except for me--I prefer Sammy --so what ??
I prefer Black Sabbath with Ozzy over Heaven N Hell with Dio--so what ??--to make a comment --*what is wrong with you * or to PM me with I think you're crazy is stupid
So what if I like Ozzy's solo career better than Dio ??--so f*n what ??--I am sick & tired of defending myself just because I don't like the same people that the majority of the board does
I even posted that I didn't have a worse beatle only to be told *then why did you post in this topic then ?? *
I posted my OPINION because I wanted to--if this continues I'll just have to leave this board --I have so much shit on me at home & at work I certainly don't need it here |
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| [ron h] Sunday, July 05, 2009 8:34:07 AM | |
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Calm down Pip, I think you're missing the point here...no one is knocking you!!! We make fun and tease, it goes both ways as you do it as well...this is different in the sense that the title of this thread is Classic Heavy Metal...Winger wasn't around at the time the Classic bands were doing their thing...Def Leppard was and I can make the argument that their first 3 albums can in fact fit the description, from Pyromania on, NO, they do NOT fit the script. Not only that, your debates about the other bands you mentioned were done in the appropiate way and threads...and I have never seen anyone being mean to you about your opinion...giving you a hard time and being disrespectful are two totally different things. I'm sorry that things aren't going well for you at home, most of us are having a hard time as well, but I think you might be letting loose on us while having a heavy heart in matters that are much more important than what's going on here. I think if you sit back and catch your breath a little, you'll see this for what it is...
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by pip from Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:48:09 AM)| | | pip wrote: | | I've just about had it with this board---it doesn't matter what someone writes about a band--it's up to each individual to interpret IN THEIR OPINION what a band is classified--I happen to think IN MY OPINION that Winger is heavy metal to some extent--the list hotrockin' typed had Def Leppard as 1 of the heavy metal bands--I think IN MY OPINION that Def Leppard is NOT a heavy metal band---
It seems to me that if 1 person posts something & everyone disagrees then that person is called names & *told off * just because they like someone else
We are all equals & we are also all individuals with our own minds & we have the freedom to post what we want
To tell someone to post in another topic is crazy--just because their beliefs aren't the same
Everyone likes David Lee Roth except for me--I prefer Sammy --so what ??
I prefer Black Sabbath with Ozzy over Heaven N Hell with Dio--so what ??--to make a comment --*what is wrong with you * or to PM me with I think you're crazy is stupid
So what if I like Ozzy's solo career better than Dio ??--so f*n what ??--I am sick & tired of defending myself just because I don't like the same people that the majority of the board does
I even posted that I didn't have a worse beatle only to be told *then why did you post in this topic then ?? *
I posted my OPINION because I wanted to--if this continues I'll just have to leave this board --I have so much shit on me at home & at work I certainly don't need it here |
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| [pip] Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:48:09 AM | |
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I've just about had it with this board---it doesn't matter what someone writes about a band--it's up to each individual to interpret IN THEIR OPINION what a band is classified--I happen to think IN MY OPINION that Winger is heavy metal to some extent--the list hotrockin' typed had Def Leppard as 1 of the heavy metal bands--I think IN MY OPINION that Def Leppard is NOT a heavy metal band---
It seems to me that if 1 person posts something & everyone disagrees then that person is called names & *told off * just because they like someone else
We are all equals & we are also all individuals with our own minds & we have the freedom to post what we want
To tell someone to post in another topic is crazy--just because their beliefs aren't the same
Everyone likes David Lee Roth except for me--I prefer Sammy --so what ??
I prefer Black Sabbath with Ozzy over Heaven N Hell with Dio--so what ??--to make a comment --*what is wrong with you * or to PM me with I think you're crazy is stupid
So what if I like Ozzy's solo career better than Dio ??--so f*n what ??--I am sick & tired of defending myself just because I don't like the same people that the majority of the board does
I even posted that I didn't have a worse beatle only to be told *then why did you post in this topic then ?? *
I posted my OPINION because I wanted to--if this continues I'll just have to leave this board --I have so much shit on me at home & at work I certainly don't need it here |
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Ton of Bricks
Start the Fire
Method to Your Madness
Watch the Children Play
Over My Dead Body
The Dark
Psycho
Line of Death
Burial at Sea
Western Alliance
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| [ron h] Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:29:25 AM | |
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Your rambling on about J.D. instead of the cause of all this...Use the proper thread for your posts...that's all ppl want...it's NOT rocket science!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Sunday, July 05, 2009 5:15:51 AM)| | | Craig Wagenhoffer wrote: | | Yeah, I don't care. Why should I care? This whole thing is rediculous. I came to this thread and posted something about Winger and then suddenly this J.D. Diamond keyboard hero calls me names and behaves like I broke into his house and raped his wife. WTF? This dude is a fundamentalist with absolutely no sense of humor. So no, I'm not impressed with this fruitcake. The man is so over the top, that it's actually pretty funny. He's desperately trying to intimidate me, but all he does is amusing me.
You should check my posts and compare them to his: I don't call people names. I keep always keep it decent.
(Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Sunday, July 05, 2009 4:08:43 AM)
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"Classic metal, classic heavy metal, classic rock, hair metal,... Who the fuck cares? I don't care what it's called. These guys play solid drumlines, catchy riffs and killer guitar solos. They rock!"...Craig
That's exactly the point Craig...you don't care!! Look at these posts...there are plenty here who care...all except you. Now, why be so stubborn and stir the hornets nest??
Remember the title of the thread...Your Classic Heavy Metal Album Of The Day!! (Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Saturday, July 04, 2009 9:44:39 PM)
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Classic metal, classic heavy metal, classic rock, hair metal,... Who the fuck cares? I don't care what it's called. These guys play solid drumlines, catchy riffs and killer guitar solos. They rock!
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Hey Craig...look at the name again...J.D. is different than JD...JD is the most respected member in name only, as a man he's a tool and is deserving of nobodies respect!!!!
The J.D. you are engeged with is a hell of a guy and you'd be well served to understand his intent...as he is dead on correct.
By NOBODY'S standard is Winger in any way, shape or form considered a Classic Metal Band...hell, Kip will tell you that himself. So why are you so stubborn about something the band itself witll tell you your wrong???
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I like a healthy debate, but I will not continue this discussion with you. You simply can't have a mature debate with someone who uses double standards and likes to call people names. We will simply have to agree to disagree. End of story.
I noticed that you are the most respected member of this board, but I couldn't care less about that. You don't own this place. Better keep that in mind, buddy. This section of the board is called "Beyond the realms of Priest" for a reason. So in this section I can post anything I want. And besides: everybody has his own definition of classic heavy metal. It's a personal thing. To me "Winger" is definitely a part of that movement, which means I have every right to post in here.
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Yes dumbshit yes........"Rob K.K. Glenn Ian and Dave Holland were all 5 a bunch of "posers" with the "Turbo" album. And the "Turbo album" doesn't belong in the "Classic Heavy Metal Thread" either!
Rob & company were a bunch of posers for the entire Turbo era...it was equally cheesy as "Winger"...... ...But the rebounded with the Ram It Down album even though it was not that great of an album...the had thier image back and thier sound was returning to a normal heavy metal album...yes Love Zone and I'm A Rocker was lame....but the band had thier studs and spikes back and thier sound was beginning to pave way for Painkiller.
Not to mention...Love Zone and I'm A Rocker blows away anything "Winger" has ever done.
So what the fuck are you trying to prove here.....??? Nothing is the answer. You thought you were cute for posting a shit band and shit album in the classic heavy metal thread and you got slapped in the puffer for it!
I am a "guardian" of classic traditional heavy metal done the traditional way by the masters of this art. Who the fuck are YOU for questioning "MY knowlege" within the realm of heavy metal or metal in general anyways you Winger loving
unmetal supporting glam nostalgic retro trend poser!!!?? What the fuck don't you understand about not posting a non-classic heavy metal band in this thread? Are you fucking retarted? Fuck.
Its not "rocket science" guy....get a fucking clue.
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Okay, fair enough.
If I follow your logic Judas Priest became a full-blown poser band in 1986 when they released the "Lemon". Yah, I'm talking about Turbo. That album is a 1980's cheesefest. Everything about the Turbo era was cheesy: the outfits, the hairdos, the girly metal look, the "check out my hairless chest" outfits... The only thing Rob did back then was walking around with that silly mullet. It was even a million times cheesier than any Winger record. It was so cheesy that it made me cringe everytime I heard it. It was so cheesy that I decided to throw my copy in the trashcan. Ram It Down wasn't any better! "Love Zone", anyone? LMAO!
Winger definitely represents a certain genre that a certain group of people don't like. But at least they sticked to their guns and always continued to release melodic metal albums, even in the early nineties when everybody jumped on the alternative bandwagon. Rob Halford on the other hand has followed just about every trend in rock music. He released heavy metal albums when heavy metal reigned supreme during the early eighties. During the mid eighties glam became all the rage and he decided to put out a glam album in 1986... and another one in 1988... During the early nineties he suddenly became "alternative" and released a few grunge albums with Fight. After that he changed styles again by releasing a trendy industrial record. And so on... and so on... According to your logic this makes Rob one of the biggest posers in rock history. Now how do you live with that?
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Look guy.....this is a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"!!! I don't give a flying "FUCK" if the guys from "Winger" are great musicians or not,"Winger" are a bunch of "posers" that are an "embarrassment" to the entire rock community.
"White Lion's" guitarist was an excellent musician but he was a "poser".......most of the poser bands back then were great guitarists...that doesn't mean that they were good "song writters".
"Dream Theater" are a bunch of posers as well. And so the fuck what if Kip was a bass player for Alice Cooper......what does that mean? Nothing.
Calling stellar musicians posers is not at all "childish"....it a respect for the spirit of traditional heavy metal like Judas Priest. What are you going to post next "Poison? Pssssssfff what the fuck ever. All the guys in the shit band "Winger"
are fuckin "posers"...with thier big hair,girl cloths and "poser dancing on thier MTV videos".
Obviously you have no clue as to what this "thread" is all about. And obviously you don't have a clue as to what "traditional heavy metal" is all about or you wouldn't of posted a "Winger" topic in the "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD".
(Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:47:41 AM)
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Posers eh? Dude WTF? It's fine if you don't like Winger, but calling them posers is just plain wrong. They're all great musicians. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. There is a reason why they were called the glam version of Dream Theater.
Reb Beach is a guitar virtuoso. That man is up there with Eddie Van Halen, KK Downing, Glenn Tipton and George Lynch. You don't believe me? Check it out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8q0Mb_uOG8 This man is a class act and you can't deny that after watching that video.
Kip Winger himself is one of the greatest rock n' roll singers of the 1980's. He played bass on several Alice Cooper records. Is Alice Cooper a poser too?
Rod Morgenstein is a great drummer. He's plays the drum kit left handed like it's nothing. He's a professor teaching percussion at Berklee College of Music in Boston. You might not like the man, but he's no poser.
Look dude, we all have our own tastes, but you should really loosen up and stop talking like a fundamentalist. It's okay if you don't like certains bands and certain genres, but calling four stellar musicians posers is just childish. I mean: I'm really not into Schubert's music, but I will never call the man a poser, because it is so obvious that he was a very gifted musician.
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Sorry Craig,but "Winger" is nowhere near a rock band,they are a bunch of posers who got lucky in the big hair era of commercialism and I'm not saying that you shouldn't like it,I'm just saying that this thread is a "Classic heavy metal album" thread....not a haven for such glam bands as "Winger". You notched down my Running Wild post a couple of notches for freakin' "Winger"?
Couldn't you of posted this somewhere else besides a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"? I would for one,appreciate it alot more if you would of,not trying to start a fight with you Craig....
I am a passinate heavy metal fan and I mean "TRADITIONAL CLASSIC HEAVY METAL FAN" like our elite forum member 'HELLRIDER"......and "Winger " is an "insult" to this thread.
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My classic metal album of the day:
Okay, no respectable metalhead alive in 1988 would admit they liked this obvious attempt at pop metal. I know I never did. But to tell the truth, while everybody, including myself, was mocking this album, I was secretly rocking it in my car at maximum levels. LOL! While there is no doubt that Winger's debut is pop metal to the maximum, it's really not that bad. It’s actually quite enjoyable. Winger featured four stellar musicians, especially Reb Beach. Nobody can deny that Reb was one of the best guitar players of the 1980’s. That guy had tons of talent. |
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| [Phantom A6] Sunday, July 05, 2009 6:18:52 AM | |
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And try to beware a little bit of your language!!
J.D. starts a little bit heavier against you, but not in the way like you did!! He's not a fundamentalist and he have a lot sense of humor, but you don't know it!! I think a lot of members are not really impressed with you!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Sunday, July 05, 2009 5:15:51 AM)| | | Craig Wagenhoffer wrote: | | Yeah, I don't care. Why should I care? This whole thing is rediculous. I came to this thread and posted something about Winger and then suddenly this J.D. Diamond keyboard hero calls me names and behaves like I broke into his house and raped his wife. WTF? This dude is a fundamentalist with absolutely no sense of humor. So no, I'm not impressed with this fruitcake. The man is so over the top, that it's actually pretty funny. He's desperately trying to intimidate me, but all he does is amusing me.
You should check my posts and compare them to his: I don't call people names. I keep always keep it decent.
(Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Sunday, July 05, 2009 4:08:43 AM)
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"Classic metal, classic heavy metal, classic rock, hair metal,... Who the fuck cares? I don't care what it's called. These guys play solid drumlines, catchy riffs and killer guitar solos. They rock!"...Craig
That's exactly the point Craig...you don't care!! Look at these posts...there are plenty here who care...all except you. Now, why be so stubborn and stir the hornets nest??
Remember the title of the thread...Your Classic Heavy Metal Album Of The Day!! (Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Saturday, July 04, 2009 9:44:39 PM)
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Craig Wagenhoffer wrote: |
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Classic metal, classic heavy metal, classic rock, hair metal,... Who the fuck cares? I don't care what it's called. These guys play solid drumlines, catchy riffs and killer guitar solos. They rock!
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Hey Craig...look at the name again...J.D. is different than JD...JD is the most respected member in name only, as a man he's a tool and is deserving of nobodies respect!!!!
The J.D. you are engeged with is a hell of a guy and you'd be well served to understand his intent...as he is dead on correct.
By NOBODY'S standard is Winger in any way, shape or form considered a Classic Metal Band...hell, Kip will tell you that himself. So why are you so stubborn about something the band itself witll tell you your wrong???
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I like a healthy debate, but I will not continue this discussion with you. You simply can't have a mature debate with someone who uses double standards and likes to call people names. We will simply have to agree to disagree. End of story.
I noticed that you are the most respected member of this board, but I couldn't care less about that. You don't own this place. Better keep that in mind, buddy. This section of the board is called "Beyond the realms of Priest" for a reason. So in this section I can post anything I want. And besides: everybody has his own definition of classic heavy metal. It's a personal thing. To me "Winger" is definitely a part of that movement, which means I have every right to post in here.
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Yes dumbshit yes........"Rob K.K. Glenn Ian and Dave Holland were all 5 a bunch of "posers" with the "Turbo" album. And the "Turbo album" doesn't belong in the "Classic Heavy Metal Thread" either!
Rob & company were a bunch of posers for the entire Turbo era...it was equally cheesy as "Winger"...... ...But the rebounded with the Ram It Down album even though it was not that great of an album...the had thier image back and thier sound was returning to a normal heavy metal album...yes Love Zone and I'm A Rocker was lame....but the band had thier studs and spikes back and thier sound was beginning to pave way for Painkiller.
Not to mention...Love Zone and I'm A Rocker blows away anything "Winger" has ever done.
So what the fuck are you trying to prove here.....??? Nothing is the answer. You thought you were cute for posting a shit band and shit album in the classic heavy metal thread and you got slapped in the puffer for it!
I am a "guardian" of classic traditional heavy metal done the traditional way by the masters of this art. Who the fuck are YOU for questioning "MY knowlege" within the realm of heavy metal or metal in general anyways you Winger loving
unmetal supporting glam nostalgic retro trend poser!!!?? What the fuck don't you understand about not posting a non-classic heavy metal band in this thread? Are you fucking retarted? Fuck.
Its not "rocket science" guy....get a fucking clue.
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Okay, fair enough.
If I follow your logic Judas Priest became a full-blown poser band in 1986 when they released the "Lemon". Yah, I'm talking about Turbo. That album is a 1980's cheesefest. Everything about the Turbo era was cheesy: the outfits, the hairdos, the girly metal look, the "check out my hairless chest" outfits... The only thing Rob did back then was walking around with that silly mullet. It was even a million times cheesier than any Winger record. It was so cheesy that it made me cringe everytime I heard it. It was so cheesy that I decided to throw my copy in the trashcan. Ram It Down wasn't any better! "Love Zone", anyone? LMAO!
Winger definitely represents a certain genre that a certain group of people don't like. But at least they sticked to their guns and always continued to release melodic metal albums, even in the early nineties when everybody jumped on the alternative bandwagon. Rob Halford on the other hand has followed just about every trend in rock music. He released heavy metal albums when heavy metal reigned supreme during the early eighties. During the mid eighties glam became all the rage and he decided to put out a glam album in 1986... and another one in 1988... During the early nineties he suddenly became "alternative" and released a few grunge albums with Fight. After that he changed styles again by releasing a trendy industrial record. And so on... and so on... According to your logic this makes Rob one of the biggest posers in rock history. Now how do you live with that?
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Look guy.....this is a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"!!! I don't give a flying "FUCK" if the guys from "Winger" are great musicians or not,"Winger" are a bunch of "posers" that are an "embarrassment" to the entire rock community.
"White Lion's" guitarist was an excellent musician but he was a "poser".......most of the poser bands back then were great guitarists...that doesn't mean that they were good "song writters".
"Dream Theater" are a bunch of posers as well. And so the fuck what if Kip was a bass player for Alice Cooper......what does that mean? Nothing.
Calling stellar musicians posers is not at all "childish"....it a respect for the spirit of traditional heavy metal like Judas Priest. What are you going to post next "Poison? Pssssssfff what the fuck ever. All the guys in the shit band "Winger"
are fuckin "posers"...with thier big hair,girl cloths and "poser dancing on thier MTV videos".
Obviously you have no clue as to what this "thread" is all about. And obviously you don't have a clue as to what "traditional heavy metal" is all about or you wouldn't of posted a "Winger" topic in the "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD".
(Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:47:41 AM)
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Posers eh? Dude WTF? It's fine if you don't like Winger, but calling them posers is just plain wrong. They're all great musicians. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. There is a reason why they were called the glam version of Dream Theater.
Reb Beach is a guitar virtuoso. That man is up there with Eddie Van Halen, KK Downing, Glenn Tipton and George Lynch. You don't believe me? Check it out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8q0Mb_uOG8 This man is a class act and you can't deny that after watching that video.
Kip Winger himself is one of the greatest rock n' roll singers of the 1980's. He played bass on several Alice Cooper records. Is Alice Cooper a poser too?
Rod Morgenstein is a great drummer. He's plays the drum kit left handed like it's nothing. He's a professor teaching percussion at Berklee College of Music in Boston. You might not like the man, but he's no poser.
Look dude, we all have our own tastes, but you should really loosen up and stop talking like a fundamentalist. It's okay if you don't like certains bands and certain genres, but calling four stellar musicians posers is just childish. I mean: I'm really not into Schubert's music, but I will never call the man a poser, because it is so obvious that he was a very gifted musician.
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Sorry Craig,but "Winger" is nowhere near a rock band,they are a bunch of posers who got lucky in the big hair era of commercialism and I'm not saying that you shouldn't like it,I'm just saying that this thread is a "Classic heavy metal album" thread....not a haven for such glam bands as "Winger". You notched down my Running Wild post a couple of notches for freakin' "Winger"?
Couldn't you of posted this somewhere else besides a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"? I would for one,appreciate it alot more if you would of,not trying to start a fight with you Craig....
I am a passinate heavy metal fan and I mean "TRADITIONAL CLASSIC HEAVY METAL FAN" like our elite forum member 'HELLRIDER"......and "Winger " is an "insult" to this thread.
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My classic metal album of the day:
Okay, no respectable metalhead alive in 1988 would admit they liked this obvious attempt at pop metal. I know I never did. But to tell the truth, while everybody, including myself, was mocking this album, I was secretly rocking it in my car at maximum levels. LOL! While there is no doubt that Winger's debut is pop metal to the maximum, it's really not that bad. It’s actually quite enjoyable. Winger featured four stellar musicians, especially Reb Beach. Nobody can deny that Reb was one of the best guitar players of the 1980’s. That guy had tons of talent. |
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Do you really thing "Winger" is a Heavy Metal band 'Cause the author of the wikipedia article wrote it??
Next time one of the members of wikipedia would write that Elvis was singing Hard Rock songs do you believe it too??
Do you think "Night Ranger" is a Heavy Metal band too??
I think there's a lot you have to learn before you start infights like this!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Sunday, July 05, 2009 5:28:24 AM)
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Here's what I found on Wikipedia:
"Rod Morgenstein is an American drummer and music educator. He is best known for his work with the late '80s heavy metal band Winger."
Your point being?
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Even Wikpedia does not classify WINGER as CLASSIC HEAVY METAL. Something MOST of us already knew, but apparently SOMEONE needs to see it in black and white, so here you go! ENOUGH SAID!!
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| [Necroticist] Sunday, July 05, 2009 6:11:43 AM | |
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| [Craig Wagenhoffer] Sunday, July 05, 2009 5:32:35 AM | |
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"Even though technically Lemmy says they are not heavy metal..."
That's what I mean when I say that you're using double standards. You're doing it all the time.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, July 04, 2009 10:26:37 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | 
Motorhead Bastards 2003
Even though technically Lemmy says they are not heavy metal.....motorhead's new wave of british heavy metal sound leaks through from time to time .....
Motorhead has a dirty greasy biker rock feel to them and some riffs dip in and out of british styled heavy metal but not so much that gets your mind off of thier brand of excellent hard rock.
Motorhead has every right to be in this thread. Shit....even Def Leppard's High And Dry could fit in this thread and would not be an insult as much as "Winger".
This album is a great Motorhead album.12 songs on this disc and there are only 3 tracks I don't care for...but the other 9 songs are classic Motorhead.
Tracks like the opener "On Your Feet Or On Your Knees"....."Burner"......."I Am The Sword"....."Born To Raise Hell"......awsome album.
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, July 04, 2009 10:17:56 PM)
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| [Craig Wagenhoffer] Sunday, July 05, 2009 5:28:24 AM | |
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Here's what I found on Wikipedia:
"Rod Morgenstein is an American drummer and music educator. He is best known for his work with the late '80s heavy metal band Winger."
Your point being?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Saturday, July 04, 2009 9:56:11 PM)| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | Even Wikpedia does not classify WINGER as CLASSIC HEAVY METAL. Something MOST of us already knew, but apparently SOMEONE needs to see it in black and white, so here you go! ENOUGH SAID!!
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| [Craig Wagenhoffer] Sunday, July 05, 2009 5:15:51 AM | |
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Yeah, I don't care. Why should I care? This whole thing is rediculous. I came to this thread and posted something about Winger and then suddenly this J.D. Diamond keyboard hero calls me names and behaves like I broke into his house and raped his wife. WTF? This dude is a fundamentalist with absolutely no sense of humor. So no, I'm not impressed with this fruitcake. The man is so over the top, that it's actually pretty funny. He's desperately trying to intimidate me, but all he does is amusing me.
You should check my posts and compare them to his: I don't call people names. I keep always keep it decent.
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"Classic metal, classic heavy metal, classic rock, hair metal,... Who the fuck cares? I don't care what it's called. These guys play solid drumlines, catchy riffs and killer guitar solos. They rock!"...Craig
That's exactly the point Craig...you don't care!! Look at these posts...there are plenty here who care...all except you. Now, why be so stubborn and stir the hornets nest??
Remember the title of the thread...Your Classic Heavy Metal Album Of The Day!! (Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Saturday, July 04, 2009 9:44:39 PM)
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Classic metal, classic heavy metal, classic rock, hair metal,... Who the fuck cares? I don't care what it's called. These guys play solid drumlines, catchy riffs and killer guitar solos. They rock!
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Hey Craig...look at the name again...J.D. is different than JD...JD is the most respected member in name only, as a man he's a tool and is deserving of nobodies respect!!!!
The J.D. you are engeged with is a hell of a guy and you'd be well served to understand his intent...as he is dead on correct.
By NOBODY'S standard is Winger in any way, shape or form considered a Classic Metal Band...hell, Kip will tell you that himself. So why are you so stubborn about something the band itself witll tell you your wrong???
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I like a healthy debate, but I will not continue this discussion with you. You simply can't have a mature debate with someone who uses double standards and likes to call people names. We will simply have to agree to disagree. End of story.
I noticed that you are the most respected member of this board, but I couldn't care less about that. You don't own this place. Better keep that in mind, buddy. This section of the board is called "Beyond the realms of Priest" for a reason. So in this section I can post anything I want. And besides: everybody has his own definition of classic heavy metal. It's a personal thing. To me "Winger" is definitely a part of that movement, which means I have every right to post in here.
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Yes dumbshit yes........"Rob K.K. Glenn Ian and Dave Holland were all 5 a bunch of "posers" with the "Turbo" album. And the "Turbo album" doesn't belong in the "Classic Heavy Metal Thread" either!
Rob & company were a bunch of posers for the entire Turbo era...it was equally cheesy as "Winger"...... ...But the rebounded with the Ram It Down album even though it was not that great of an album...the had thier image back and thier sound was returning to a normal heavy metal album...yes Love Zone and I'm A Rocker was lame....but the band had thier studs and spikes back and thier sound was beginning to pave way for Painkiller.
Not to mention...Love Zone and I'm A Rocker blows away anything "Winger" has ever done.
So what the fuck are you trying to prove here.....??? Nothing is the answer. You thought you were cute for posting a shit band and shit album in the classic heavy metal thread and you got slapped in the puffer for it!
I am a "guardian" of classic traditional heavy metal done the traditional way by the masters of this art. Who the fuck are YOU for questioning "MY knowlege" within the realm of heavy metal or metal in general anyways you Winger loving
unmetal supporting glam nostalgic retro trend poser!!!?? What the fuck don't you understand about not posting a non-classic heavy metal band in this thread? Are you fucking retarted? Fuck.
Its not "rocket science" guy....get a fucking clue.
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Okay, fair enough.
If I follow your logic Judas Priest became a full-blown poser band in 1986 when they released the "Lemon". Yah, I'm talking about Turbo. That album is a 1980's cheesefest. Everything about the Turbo era was cheesy: the outfits, the hairdos, the girly metal look, the "check out my hairless chest" outfits... The only thing Rob did back then was walking around with that silly mullet. It was even a million times cheesier than any Winger record. It was so cheesy that it made me cringe everytime I heard it. It was so cheesy that I decided to throw my copy in the trashcan. Ram It Down wasn't any better! "Love Zone", anyone? LMAO!
Winger definitely represents a certain genre that a certain group of people don't like. But at least they sticked to their guns and always continued to release melodic metal albums, even in the early nineties when everybody jumped on the alternative bandwagon. Rob Halford on the other hand has followed just about every trend in rock music. He released heavy metal albums when heavy metal reigned supreme during the early eighties. During the mid eighties glam became all the rage and he decided to put out a glam album in 1986... and another one in 1988... During the early nineties he suddenly became "alternative" and released a few grunge albums with Fight. After that he changed styles again by releasing a trendy industrial record. And so on... and so on... According to your logic this makes Rob one of the biggest posers in rock history. Now how do you live with that?
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Look guy.....this is a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"!!! I don't give a flying "FUCK" if the guys from "Winger" are great musicians or not,"Winger" are a bunch of "posers" that are an "embarrassment" to the entire rock community.
"White Lion's" guitarist was an excellent musician but he was a "poser".......most of the poser bands back then were great guitarists...that doesn't mean that they were good "song writters".
"Dream Theater" are a bunch of posers as well. And so the fuck what if Kip was a bass player for Alice Cooper......what does that mean? Nothing.
Calling stellar musicians posers is not at all "childish"....it a respect for the spirit of traditional heavy metal like Judas Priest. What are you going to post next "Poison? Pssssssfff what the fuck ever. All the guys in the shit band "Winger"
are fuckin "posers"...with thier big hair,girl cloths and "poser dancing on thier MTV videos".
Obviously you have no clue as to what this "thread" is all about. And obviously you don't have a clue as to what "traditional heavy metal" is all about or you wouldn't of posted a "Winger" topic in the "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD".
(Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:47:41 AM)
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Posers eh? Dude WTF? It's fine if you don't like Winger, but calling them posers is just plain wrong. They're all great musicians. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. There is a reason why they were called the glam version of Dream Theater.
Reb Beach is a guitar virtuoso. That man is up there with Eddie Van Halen, KK Downing, Glenn Tipton and George Lynch. You don't believe me? Check it out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8q0Mb_uOG8 This man is a class act and you can't deny that after watching that video.
Kip Winger himself is one of the greatest rock n' roll singers of the 1980's. He played bass on several Alice Cooper records. Is Alice Cooper a poser too?
Rod Morgenstein is a great drummer. He's plays the drum kit left handed like it's nothing. He's a professor teaching percussion at Berklee College of Music in Boston. You might not like the man, but he's no poser.
Look dude, we all have our own tastes, but you should really loosen up and stop talking like a fundamentalist. It's okay if you don't like certains bands and certain genres, but calling four stellar musicians posers is just childish. I mean: I'm really not into Schubert's music, but I will never call the man a poser, because it is so obvious that he was a very gifted musician.
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Sorry Craig,but "Winger" is nowhere near a rock band,they are a bunch of posers who got lucky in the big hair era of commercialism and I'm not saying that you shouldn't like it,I'm just saying that this thread is a "Classic heavy metal album" thread....not a haven for such glam bands as "Winger". You notched down my Running Wild post a couple of notches for freakin' "Winger"?
Couldn't you of posted this somewhere else besides a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"? I would for one,appreciate it alot more if you would of,not trying to start a fight with you Craig....
I am a passinate heavy metal fan and I mean "TRADITIONAL CLASSIC HEAVY METAL FAN" like our elite forum member 'HELLRIDER"......and "Winger " is an "insult" to this thread.
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My classic metal album of the day:
Okay, no respectable metalhead alive in 1988 would admit they liked this obvious attempt at pop metal. I know I never did. But to tell the truth, while everybody, including myself, was mocking this album, I was secretly rocking it in my car at maximum levels. LOL! While there is no doubt that Winger's debut is pop metal to the maximum, it's really not that bad. It’s actually quite enjoyable. Winger featured four stellar musicians, especially Reb Beach. Nobody can deny that Reb was one of the best guitar players of the 1980’s. That guy had tons of talent. |
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"Classic metal, classic heavy metal, classic rock, hair metal,... Who the fuck cares? I don't care what it's called. These guys play solid drumlines, catchy riffs and killer guitar solos. They rock!"...Craig
That's exactly the point Craig...you don't care!! Look at these posts...there are plenty here who care...all except you. Now, why be so stubborn and stir the hornets nest??
Remember the title of the thread...Your Classic Heavy Metal Album Of The Day!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Saturday, July 04, 2009 9:44:39 PM)
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Classic metal, classic heavy metal, classic rock, hair metal,... Who the fuck cares? I don't care what it's called. These guys play solid drumlines, catchy riffs and killer guitar solos. They rock!
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Hey Craig...look at the name again...J.D. is different than JD...JD is the most respected member in name only, as a man he's a tool and is deserving of nobodies respect!!!!
The J.D. you are engeged with is a hell of a guy and you'd be well served to understand his intent...as he is dead on correct.
By NOBODY'S standard is Winger in any way, shape or form considered a Classic Metal Band...hell, Kip will tell you that himself. So why are you so stubborn about something the band itself witll tell you your wrong???
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I like a healthy debate, but I will not continue this discussion with you. You simply can't have a mature debate with someone who uses double standards and likes to call people names. We will simply have to agree to disagree. End of story.
I noticed that you are the most respected member of this board, but I couldn't care less about that. You don't own this place. Better keep that in mind, buddy. This section of the board is called "Beyond the realms of Priest" for a reason. So in this section I can post anything I want. And besides: everybody has his own definition of classic heavy metal. It's a personal thing. To me "Winger" is definitely a part of that movement, which means I have every right to post in here.
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Yes dumbshit yes........"Rob K.K. Glenn Ian and Dave Holland were all 5 a bunch of "posers" with the "Turbo" album. And the "Turbo album" doesn't belong in the "Classic Heavy Metal Thread" either!
Rob & company were a bunch of posers for the entire Turbo era...it was equally cheesy as "Winger"...... ...But the rebounded with the Ram It Down album even though it was not that great of an album...the had thier image back and thier sound was returning to a normal heavy metal album...yes Love Zone and I'm A Rocker was lame....but the band had thier studs and spikes back and thier sound was beginning to pave way for Painkiller.
Not to mention...Love Zone and I'm A Rocker blows away anything "Winger" has ever done.
So what the fuck are you trying to prove here.....??? Nothing is the answer. You thought you were cute for posting a shit band and shit album in the classic heavy metal thread and you got slapped in the puffer for it!
I am a "guardian" of classic traditional heavy metal done the traditional way by the masters of this art. Who the fuck are YOU for questioning "MY knowlege" within the realm of heavy metal or metal in general anyways you Winger loving
unmetal supporting glam nostalgic retro trend poser!!!?? What the fuck don't you understand about not posting a non-classic heavy metal band in this thread? Are you fucking retarted? Fuck.
Its not "rocket science" guy....get a fucking clue.
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Okay, fair enough.
If I follow your logic Judas Priest became a full-blown poser band in 1986 when they released the "Lemon". Yah, I'm talking about Turbo. That album is a 1980's cheesefest. Everything about the Turbo era was cheesy: the outfits, the hairdos, the girly metal look, the "check out my hairless chest" outfits... The only thing Rob did back then was walking around with that silly mullet. It was even a million times cheesier than any Winger record. It was so cheesy that it made me cringe everytime I heard it. It was so cheesy that I decided to throw my copy in the trashcan. Ram It Down wasn't any better! "Love Zone", anyone? LMAO!
Winger definitely represents a certain genre that a certain group of people don't like. But at least they sticked to their guns and always continued to release melodic metal albums, even in the early nineties when everybody jumped on the alternative bandwagon. Rob Halford on the other hand has followed just about every trend in rock music. He released heavy metal albums when heavy metal reigned supreme during the early eighties. During the mid eighties glam became all the rage and he decided to put out a glam album in 1986... and another one in 1988... During the early nineties he suddenly became "alternative" and released a few grunge albums with Fight. After that he changed styles again by releasing a trendy industrial record. And so on... and so on... According to your logic this makes Rob one of the biggest posers in rock history. Now how do you live with that?
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Look guy.....this is a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"!!! I don't give a flying "FUCK" if the guys from "Winger" are great musicians or not,"Winger" are a bunch of "posers" that are an "embarrassment" to the entire rock community.
"White Lion's" guitarist was an excellent musician but he was a "poser".......most of the poser bands back then were great guitarists...that doesn't mean that they were good "song writters".
"Dream Theater" are a bunch of posers as well. And so the fuck what if Kip was a bass player for Alice Cooper......what does that mean? Nothing.
Calling stellar musicians posers is not at all "childish"....it a respect for the spirit of traditional heavy metal like Judas Priest. What are you going to post next "Poison? Pssssssfff what the fuck ever. All the guys in the shit band "Winger"
are fuckin "posers"...with thier big hair,girl cloths and "poser dancing on thier MTV videos".
Obviously you have no clue as to what this "thread" is all about. And obviously you don't have a clue as to what "traditional heavy metal" is all about or you wouldn't of posted a "Winger" topic in the "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD".
(Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:47:41 AM)
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Posers eh? Dude WTF? It's fine if you don't like Winger, but calling them posers is just plain wrong. They're all great musicians. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. There is a reason why they were called the glam version of Dream Theater.
Reb Beach is a guitar virtuoso. That man is up there with Eddie Van Halen, KK Downing, Glenn Tipton and George Lynch. You don't believe me? Check it out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8q0Mb_uOG8 This man is a class act and you can't deny that after watching that video.
Kip Winger himself is one of the greatest rock n' roll singers of the 1980's. He played bass on several Alice Cooper records. Is Alice Cooper a poser too?
Rod Morgenstein is a great drummer. He's plays the drum kit left handed like it's nothing. He's a professor teaching percussion at Berklee College of Music in Boston. You might not like the man, but he's no poser.
Look dude, we all have our own tastes, but you should really loosen up and stop talking like a fundamentalist. It's okay if you don't like certains bands and certain genres, but calling four stellar musicians posers is just childish. I mean: I'm really not into Schubert's music, but I will never call the man a poser, because it is so obvious that he was a very gifted musician.
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Sorry Craig,but "Winger" is nowhere near a rock band,they are a bunch of posers who got lucky in the big hair era of commercialism and I'm not saying that you shouldn't like it,I'm just saying that this thread is a "Classic heavy metal album" thread....not a haven for such glam bands as "Winger". You notched down my Running Wild post a couple of notches for freakin' "Winger"?
Couldn't you of posted this somewhere else besides a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"? I would for one,appreciate it alot more if you would of,not trying to start a fight with you Craig....
I am a passinate heavy metal fan and I mean "TRADITIONAL CLASSIC HEAVY METAL FAN" like our elite forum member 'HELLRIDER"......and "Winger " is an "insult" to this thread.
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My classic metal album of the day:
Okay, no respectable metalhead alive in 1988 would admit they liked this obvious attempt at pop metal. I know I never did. But to tell the truth, while everybody, including myself, was mocking this album, I was secretly rocking it in my car at maximum levels. LOL! While there is no doubt that Winger's debut is pop metal to the maximum, it's really not that bad. It’s actually quite enjoyable. Winger featured four stellar musicians, especially Reb Beach. Nobody can deny that Reb was one of the best guitar players of the 1980’s. That guy had tons of talent. |
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Darryn, it would be awesome when there was a self destruct button instead of the post button especially for the great asshole you are!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by FreakyMetalHead from Saturday, July 04, 2009 8:26:01 PM)| | | FreakyMetalHead wrote: | | Hey J.D.! How's it going??
Believe me when I say that "I feel your pain"!! LOL!!!! And I have a great idea to solve this problem! Check it out! Now we will have to run this by Murray for approval first but check it out! Whoever creates a thread like say "The Classic Heavy Metal Thread" has the ability to delete a post he doesn't approve of!!!! Thats right!! Complete control of the thread!!! LMAO dude!!! Kind of like a mini moderator of the thread!! So when some poser comes along and post something like say "Winger" ROFL!!!....with just a click of a button.....it is gone!!! Bam!!!!! And by no means am I calling Mista Wagenhoffer a poser, Just used that for an example. By the way..enjoyed the Reb Beach video!! So what do you think J.D.??? I think it would work!!! I think it would be a blast just sittin here hittin that delete button when I see a post I don't like!! LOL dude!!! Give it some thought J.D. and let me know what you think.
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Look guy.....this is a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"!!! I don't give a flying "FUCK" if the guys from "Winger" are great musicians or not,"Winger" are a bunch of "posers" that are an "embarrassment" to the entire rock community.
"White Lion's" guitarist was an excellent musician but he was a "poser".......most of the poser bands back then were great guitarists...that doesn't mean that they were good "song writters".
"Dream Theater" are a bunch of posers as well. And so the fuck what if Kip was a bass player for Alice Cooper......what does that mean? Nothing.
Calling stellar musicians posers is not at all "childish"....it a respect for the spirit of traditional heavy metal like Judas Priest. What are you going to post next "Poison? Pssssssfff what the fuck ever. All the guys in the shit band "Winger"
are fuckin "posers"...with thier big hair,girl cloths and "poser dancing on thier MTV videos".
Obviously you have no clue as to what this "thread" is all about. And obviously you don't have a clue as to what "traditional heavy metal" is all about or you wouldn't of posted a "Winger" topic in the "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD".
(Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:47:41 AM)
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Posers eh? Dude WTF? It's fine if you don't like Winger, but calling them posers is just plain wrong. They're all great musicians. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. There is a reason why they were called the glam version of Dream Theater.
Reb Beach is a guitar virtuoso. That man is up there with Eddie Van Halen, KK Downing, Glenn Tipton and George Lynch. You don't believe me? Check it out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8q0Mb_uOG8 This man is a class act and you can't deny that after watching that video.
Kip Winger himself is one of the greatest rock n' roll singers of the 1980's. He played bass on several Alice Cooper records. Is Alice Cooper a poser too?
Rod Morgenstein is a great drummer. He's plays the drum kit left handed like it's nothing. He's a professor teaching percussion at Berklee College of Music in Boston. You might not like the man, but he's no poser.
Look dude, we all have our own tastes, but you should really loosen up and stop talking like a fundamentalist. It's okay if you don't like certains bands and certain genres, but calling four stellar musicians posers is just childish. I mean: I'm really not into Schubert's music, but I will never call the man a poser, because it is so obvious that he was a very gifted musician.
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Sorry Craig,but "Winger" is nowhere near a rock band,they are a bunch of posers who got lucky in the big hair era of commercialism and I'm not saying that you shouldn't like it,I'm just saying that this thread is a "Classic heavy metal album" thread....not a haven for such glam bands as "Winger". You notched down my Running Wild post a couple of notches for freakin' "Winger"?
Couldn't you of posted this somewhere else besides a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"? I would for one,appreciate it alot more if you would of,not trying to start a fight with you Craig....
I am a passinate heavy metal fan and I mean "TRADITIONAL CLASSIC HEAVY METAL FAN" like our elite forum member 'HELLRIDER"......and "Winger " is an "insult" to this thread.
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My classic metal album of the day:
Okay, no respectable metalhead alive in 1988 would admit they liked this obvious attempt at pop metal. I know I never did. But to tell the truth, while everybody, including myself, was mocking this album, I was secretly rocking it in my car at maximum levels. LOL! While there is no doubt that Winger's debut is pop metal to the maximum, it's really not that bad. It’s actually quite enjoyable. Winger featured four stellar musicians, especially Reb Beach. Nobody can deny that Reb was one of the best guitar players of the 1980’s. That guy had tons of talent. |
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LOL HRMG!
Good suggestions Jimmy and Spa, I will take them in to consideration when deliberating the fate of gingerbread Bret, LMAO!
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Why not make a gingerbread man of Bret Michaels and instead of biting its' head off you could stomp on it?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, July 04, 2009 10:35:54 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL Ron. I've decided against that plan, its mere likeness to Mr Michaels will sour the taste 
MOTORHEAD! Now THATS more like it!
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My version has 13 songs. The last one is a cover of The Rolling Stones Jumpin' Jack Flash. Something a bit diferent from Lemmy and co.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, July 04, 2009 10:26:37 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | |
Motorhead Bastards 2003
Even though technically Lemmy says they are not heavy metal.....motorhead's new wave of british heavy metal sound leaks through from time to time .....
Motorhead has a dirty greasy biker rock feel to them and some riffs dip in and out of british styled heavy metal but not so much that gets your mind off of thier brand of excellent hard rock.
Motorhead has every right to be in this thread. Shit....even Def Leppard's High And Dry could fit in this thread and would not be an insult as much as "Winger".
This album is a great Motorhead album.12 songs on this disc and there are only 3 tracks I don't care for...but the other 9 songs are classic Motorhead.
Tracks like the opener "On Your Feet Or On Your Knees"....."Burner"......."I Am The Sword"....."Born To Raise Hell"......awsome album.
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LOL Ron. I've decided against that plan, its mere likeness to Mr Michaels will sour the taste
MOTORHEAD! Now THATS more like it!
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You're toooooo damn funny Becks
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, July 04, 2009 10:23:10 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | I'm making gingerbread men at the moment, I want to make one that looks like Bret Michaels so I can have the satisfaction of chomping his head off LOL!
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | POISON....
I thought they were girls when I first saw the album and videos.... thought Kip was a chick too!! |
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