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[JayDee  Jepsen] Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:56:37 AM 
I have to jump in. 
Halford was smart in buying the rights to all of his music (except Two). So from a business point of view and considering that some if not all of Halford's  music is /was out of print then it makes perfect sense for him to generate some cash now that he owns the music rights to Halford.  Who can blame him?  I would do it.. From a business point of view it makes perfect sense and he's smart to do it becuase there are fans who will buy his music nicely repackaged. AND since Halford started his own record label it makes sense for him to release his own music/videos on his own MGE label.  A little co-promoting..............

As far as Priest is concern, I agree in that I am a bit tired of all the remasters of their music in recent years. However JP has blessed us trmendously with a monster catalog of music and if they see a business opportunity to make some money while offering something new like a '09 British Steel DVD...so be it!  Imagine if any of us had made music and toured for 40 years and were pushing 60 yrs old, we would be a little tired as well. Judas Priest has well earn the right to rest as long as they want and enjoy the fruits of their labor.

Understandably as hard core fans we still long for the days when Preist treated us with a fresh album every year but those days are long gone. So let's give Priest and Halford a break from our bickering and appreciate what they have done. While other bands are dead, Preist still comes through for their fans!

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[Brian_Evans] Wednesday, April 28, 2010 8:31:34 AM 
Hey man I've been accused of being an Iron Maiden "fanboy"(fanboyism) around here many a time!! lol!!! And from what i've read you seem to ba a serious Rob Halford "fanboy" and I don't mean that in a negative way or anything but thats just how it seems. So I feel your pain here man. Really I do!! So if you want to go out and buy all of these new remasters and bonus tracks then I say go for it man! Heck!! Buy 10 of each one if you've got the money!!! Enjoy!   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazookajoe_666 from Tuesday, April 27, 2010 7:58:38 PM)
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[Budred] Wednesday, April 28, 2010 5:19:50 AM 
Agreed!
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[Head banger] Wednesday, April 28, 2010 5:16:14 AM 
didnt we all recently buy a remastered british steel, now we get it re mastered again and played live?  different packs....  back in the day lots of my friends didnt like priest cause everytime you looked at their tapes in the store there was a new one with all the songs you already had.  that was Gull doing it but still, it was a crock.  this is still frustrating to me.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:38:47 AM 
I agree with what jimmy is saying,I know what Joe is saying here,but the fact of the matter here is that this shit is getting "old"...releasing shit over and over again,and they didn't need a remix or remaster of the fuckin Crucible CD my god that CD sounds fine the way it is,if its out of print then they can easily distribute it again the way it is for christ's sake,this remixing and remastering is an excuse to sell the cd again and is the oldest trick in the book,its a joke. And this "British Steel" tour/new remastered/remixed cd is going to go on for about 2 more freaking years if they can milk it that long,they will.

Whats next for 2011? The remixing and remastering of Screaming For Vengeance so that they can milk it till' 2012 when Screaming For Vengeance has been officially out for 30 years? Its all good what they did for British Steel but its going on a year and a half of it right now,by the end of summer I may never listen to British Steel again!! lol! For fuck sake,its not only Priest who is doing this,its every other band these days and its a joke.

All these "RE-HASHED" albums are giving me a headache by just freakin looking at them!  Can't anybody do anything "new"???  Jee wiz.
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[jimmyjames] Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:46:16 PM 
Look, I can't be bothered going on and on about this. I stand by everything I said in my original post on this subject. I feel the same way about the British Steel Re-rerelease or what ever the fuck it is. Instead of fucking around remixing, remastering or re whatever he's doing just stop putting out the same stuff in different fucking formats and put out something we haven't heard before. I don't care what's been done to them or how much better they sound, it's all stuff we've heard before. If you want to buy it great, I don't and think it's a cash grab, that's all. Difference of opinion.
[Bazookajoe_666] Tuesday, April 27, 2010 7:58:38 PM 
Oh my lord man you just cant take no for answer can you?

Remixing an album (that needed it badly) thats over a decade old to release again because it is out of print isn't a cash grab.

Of course he's selling it. Why wouldn't he.............. it costs a lot of money to make this stuff........

Rock In Rio isn't an album........... its a DVD. There is no official audio release for that............. the two live Halford albums are Live Insurrection and Live In Anaheim. Holy fuck man.

Whats the problem with purchasing the same album (a way better version) that you bought for probably half the price over a decade ago? Again, Cheap fucker.

No 95% of the time is exaggerating a bit dont you think? I've heard many bonus tracks from tons of bands that are better then most of the songs on the album. There's a difference between Japanese bonus tracks and putting stuff on that you shelved 30 years ago.

I will enjoy my brand new products and the re-released ones as well. Because now, I dont have to inconvience myself getting that extra content because its ALL on one package. And it sure as fuck isn't expensive either.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, April 27, 2010 6:48:35 PM)
[Head banger] Tuesday, April 27, 2010 7:27:54 PM 
its much easier to put the original into production, and cheaper than remastering the whole thing.  

all the JP bonus songs are worth about 8 cents to me
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazookajoe_666 from Tuesday, April 27, 2010 5:12:35 PM)
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, April 27, 2010 6:48:35 PM 

Ok.

#1. I'll ignore that.

#2, #3. I can understand rereleasing albums that are out of print for the benefit of new fans and people that don't have a copy and if your going to do that then absolutely remaster it. Why not take full advantage of the technology available. But if you're going to remix it so it's different from the original, i don't think that's on. That is something that you do to encourage people who already have the album to buy it again.

#4. He's not giving them anything, he's selling it.

#5. Live Insurrection, Live at Rock In Rio 3, Live at Anaheim.

#6. I can understand putting an extra track or two on an album for people who have to pay more for the product. It's not really fair on those that don't have to pay more but there it is. Things are looking up though, fans who didn't have to pay more for the original album now have the chance of getting the bonus tracks by purchasing the album again. Sweet.

I have to disagree with you on bonus tracks too. 95% of the time they are tracks that didn't make the cut on the original album and usually for good reason ( see the bonus tracks on the Priest remasters)

I'm not a "cheap fucker". Quite the opposite actually.

#7 Diehard fans usually do buy everything a band brings out. That's what makes them diehards. I really hope you enjoy your new Halford products. I"ll keep on enjoying my old ones.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazookajoe_666 from Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:28:57 PM)
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[Bazookajoe_666] Tuesday, April 27, 2010 5:12:35 PM 
Thats not the point, your only considering yourself in the equation.

These albums weren't in print anymore. You could not go to a store and buy these albums. That was impossible.

These albums are for people that want a better product OR younger fans that dont already own them....... get it?

Nobody really likes buying stuff second hand, especially online. So why not make these albums available again? Thats the point of releasing them....... so people can buy them again if they want to and the fans that want to buy them for the first time CAN.

Its not lame or pathetic or a cash grab at all. Its giving the fans a product they couldn't buy otherwise.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Tuesday, April 27, 2010 4:55:32 PM)
[Brian_Evans] Tuesday, April 27, 2010 4:55:32 PM 
Hey Bazookzjoe_666, I'm not trying to get in the middle of this but I kind of have to agree with Jimmy here. I like to buy a cd one time and not go back and buy it again just because it has been remastered and contains a bonus track or two, new art work, liner notes ect. I don't think that makes anyone cheap, its just good business. It does seem like they are trying to get more money from the fans by rereleasing something that has a little fine-tuning with bonus track or two.. Lame. I bought the Painkiller remaster just because I lost the the old one (sounded better than remaster) and it has the two bonus tracks" Living Bad Dreams" and live version of "Leather Rebel". Both are not very good in my opinion and not worth spending more money on. If they really want to please the fans they will crank out a new album.
[Bazookajoe_666] Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:28:57 PM 

Oh for fucks sakes man are you seriously doing this? 

Now I gotta repeat everything I just said because your negative attitude can't seem to understand what is happening right now.

Fact #1.
You're a fucking douchebag.

#2. A Small Deadly Spacae wasn't released as a substandard product. An album is a band's mindset and vision at the time. Thats what they created. Most bands dont have the opportunity to go back and change stuff due to master tapes being lost and record contracts, rights, etc etc. Rob Halford acquired the rights and masteres to ALL his solo work recently. What would you do in that situation as a MUSICIAN who wants to express his art that is no longer available? RELEASE IT AGAIN DUMBASS. He's not guilty of putting out a substandard product, you're just a childish twat that wants the last word. Grow up. Its how people making MONEY. TO LIVE. Seriously, its amazing how fucking ignorant your being to me telling you that the remix is BETTER, and you just say "Pfft, no its not, your stupid, this is gay." You haven't even heard it. Did you even listen to the youtube clip I posted here? I really doubt you did. Seriously man, grow up.

#3. Every single one of his albums has been out of print for years. He's re-released them in NEW and improved formats, different verions for those who dont want to own the same product a couple times, etc etc.

#4. Rob isn't ripping the fans off. He's GIVING them back something they could no longer acquire. How's is that ripping them off? Or are you really that fucking cheap? These albums have not been available in stores for YEARS. Some of them over a decade. If you had the rights and the power to give thousands of people something they're all screaming for, would you give it to them? The thing is he's doing a lot more then just giving them the same thing again, he's making an overall better package, tweaking things that make it better, adding new audio and even artwork. Thats well worth buying it again a fucking DECADE later if you ask me.

#5. Where are you getting 3 live albums from out of the Halford catalogue. Last time I checked there is TWO live albums. Live Insurrection and the new 2 disc live set of the DVD coming out.

#6. Do you even understand why albums are released with bonus tracks? Obviously you dont from the way your talking about them. Bonus tracks are 100% of the time released in places like Japan and Russia and occasionally Europe because they PAY MORE for the albums. Why not give them a little something extra to compensate for the extra cost? Thats the whole point of bonus tracks. Rob's putting those bonus tracks on the albums now so that EVERYONE has a fair chance to get them. Its not a matter of why they weren't good enough in the first place, because they're obviously amazing fucking songs, its a gift to people that pay more for the album. Not cheap fuckers like yourself.

#7. Die hard fans won't and will not buy every single thing. I consider myself a die hard fan of Rob Halford associated things in general. I dont have every single Priest album. I dont have every single thing Rob's ever done. Am I gonna buy these 3 new releases? Fucking right I am, because there a WAYY BETTER PRODUCT THEN WHAT I ALREADY HAVE. Why WOULDN"T I buy Crucible remixed/remastered? Its got a better sound/production, its got more songs, more and new artwork and linear notes. Whats NOT to like?

Anyway enjoy your 10 year old Cd's. I can only imagine what kind of shit you'll reply to me with. Thing is everything I said is true, everything you've said so far is a piss poor attitude grasping for anything to fling at me to shut me down. That's called being a douchebag.


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[jimmyjames] Tuesday, April 27, 2010 2:35:23 PM 
Well if you think the remixed version of Small Deadly Space is that much better why did Halford release a substandard original product. Obviously the production techniques have improved but if it's as good as you say it is he is guilty of putting out a substandard product and ripping off the fans.
 I can't understand how three studio albums can warrant three live albums. 
This practice of re-releasing albums with bonus tracks that didn't make the original cut stinks, it is a practice designed to sell the album again. If they weren't good enough then why now? Also rereleasing an album with a new track sucks too, do 1/10 of the work and make the same amount of money as you would if you wrote a whole new album because die-hard fans will want to have everything and buy it again. It's parasitic.
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[Head banger] Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:25:20 AM 
thank fuck.
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[Bazookajoe_666] Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:07:02 AM 

Halford Announces First Tour Date: HeavyMTL Festival in Montreal

JUDAS PRIEST frontman Rob Halford has confirmed that his solo band, HALFORD, will perform at this year's edition of the Heavy MTL festival on July 24, 2010 at Parc Jean-Drapeau in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.

“I am excited to re-introduce the HALFORD band — Mike Chlasciak and Roy Z. on guitars, Mike Davis on bass and Bobby Jarzombek on drums — to the metal fans in Canada this summer," explains Rob Halford.

"We are looking forward to performing a strong set and unveiling a new track for the Montreal Heavy MTL festival."

Metal God Records and Rob Halford have announced plans to release "Halford - Live In Anaheim Original 2CD Soundtrack" (June 21), "Halford Crucible - Remixed & Remastered" (July 12) and "Halford - Live In Anaheim" DVD (August 3) a 5.1, 23-song, two-plus-hour film documenting Rob Halford's 2002-2003 solo release ("Crucible") and tour.

Armed with metal's most diverse band of the decade, "Halford - Live In Anaheim" is an intimate, in-your-face, solo performance featuring HALFORD, FIGHT and JUDAS PRIEST classics: "Golgotha", "The Heretic", "Sun", "Into The Pit", "Light Comes Out Of Black", "Painkiller", "Rapid Fire", "Never Satisfied", and more. Also featured are bonus live tracks from HALFORD's Tokyo, Japan performances February 2003.

Captured months prior to reuniting with JUDAS PRIEST in 2003, The Metal God debuts new HALFORD guitarist Roy Z. and bassist Mike Davis along with original HALFORD members Metal Mike Chlasciak (guitars) and Bobby Jarzombek (drums) in rare performances from Anaheim, California and Tokyo, Japan.

The Metal God will also hit the road this summer and fall 2010, for his first solo tour in more than seven years; supporting "Halford - Live In Anaheim", "Crucible - Remixed & Remastered" and his entire HALFORD, FIGHT and JUDAS PRIEST catalog.

Rob Halford comments: "I am pleased to be releasing 'Crucible - Remixed & Remastered'; along with 'Halford - Live In Anaheim' DVD and CDs this year. The HALFORD band have not toured for more than seven years, and everyone knows how important my solo work is to me. While the other members of JUDAS PRIEST enjoy a well-deserved break for the remainder of 2010, I am very excited about getting HALFORD onto as many stages as we can before year's end."

Stay in touch with Rob Halford and his HALFORD band members at RobHalford.com throughout 2010 for NEW HALFORD music, digital releases and Metal God Apparel, limited concert ticket giveaways, limited meet-and-greets, tour dates, news and more.

[Bazookajoe_666] Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:06:15 AM 

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. This tour is in support of the 3 new releases coming out.

Anaheim DVD.
Anaheim double live album.
CRUCIBLE REMIXED AND REMASTERED.



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT CHRISTMAS SONGS.


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[Head banger] Tuesday, April 27, 2010 5:27:32 AM 
I liked mutations, otherwise I agree with you.  I am just wondering, is this tour in suport of winter songs?  if so......
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[Bazookajoe_666] Monday, April 26, 2010 11:32:51 PM 

You would want to purchase the album again because the remix is a million times better then the original? Like I just said. Remixes are DIFFERENT from the original. Its the songs reworked and in this case the remix is way better then the original. Production wise, vocal wise, instrument wise, arrangement wise, its ALL better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq6khIFk5Bc

And the main reason Halford is releasing all this stuff again IS BECAUSE ITS OUT OF PRINT. When was the last time you saw this shit in a music store? I for one personally can't wait for the Anaheim DVD and double live album because its gonna be fucking amazing. 

Also can't wait for the Crucible remix/remaster because it DOES sound better, and it also has ALL of the Crucible songs you previously could only get on the Jap or Euro versions.

Is that not reason enough?

I'm not a picky person at all but when they is an overall BETTER product out there, why not get the best one available?


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[jimmyjames] Monday, April 26, 2010 9:57:38 PM 
No because I already own Fights two studio albums and resent the fact that Halford is trying to sell them to me again. And I don't really think Small Deadly Space was that good anyway so why would I want to purchase a remixed version of it.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazookajoe_666 from Monday, April 26, 2010 9:34:18 PM)
[Bazookajoe_666] Monday, April 26, 2010 9:34:18 PM 
Well thats not narrowminded at all.

Have you heard the remix of A Small deadly Space that comes in the Fight boxset? Its like a completely different album. AMAZING album as well.
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