| [spapad] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:13:34 PM | |
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I never took French but I know it when I read it. I know parts of many languages and am master of none. I used to know spanish well enough to go to Mexico unescorted, but these days its comes and goes...I know more Greek than anything. especially the ultimate cuss out LOL!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Tephra Rising from Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:09:42 PM)| |  | Tephra Rising wrote: | | Suddenly I'm glad I took 4 years of French in high school!!! Ha ha ha....
(That never made sense to me. I grew up and live in the Pacific Northwest and the nearest French-speaking part of the world to us is........Quebec which is on the other side of the freaking continent from me. Real useful out here. Who knew I'd one day find it came in handy for reading the liner notes to NOSTRADAMUS.......)
.......but let's not forget this ain't the first time Priest "Frenched" us. Anybody remember "Saints In Hell" off "Stained Class"???
Abbatoir, abbatoir, mon Dieu quelle horreur.....
(translation: Slaughterhouse, slaughterhouse, my God what horror)
and I am surprised I can remember that!!! |
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| [Tephra Rising] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:09:42 PM | |
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Suddenly I'm glad I took 4 years of French in high school!!! Ha ha ha....
(That never made sense to me. I grew up and live in the Pacific Northwest and the nearest French-speaking part of the world to us is........Quebec which is on the other side of the freaking continent from me. Real useful out here. Who knew I'd one day find it came in handy for reading the liner notes to NOSTRADAMUS.......)
.......but let's not forget this ain't the first time Priest "Frenched" us. Anybody remember "Saints In Hell" off "Stained Class"???
Abbatoir, abbatoir, mon Dieu quelle horreur.....
(translation: Slaughterhouse, slaughterhouse, my God what horror)
and I am surprised I can remember that!!! |
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| [spapad] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:04:34 PM | |
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Still, I wont call favorites yet. I drove all day yesterday home and have only got to listen up this evening. I have some leanings but still I will wait. I do love the Italian, and the French ending, although no matter how hard Rob may try he really can not nail an italian accent. I still love it.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Tephra Rising from Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:59:29 PM)| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | | The one that is really grabbing me right now is Track 8 on Disc 2.....sorry, not sure of the title......it's just a little short instrumental piece with some almost 70-ish sounding guitar playing that blends into an electric-acoustic prelude.......I have been listening to this over and over.......very un-Priest but just a cool, cool bit of music.....awesome!!! |
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| [Tephra Rising] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:59:29 PM | |
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| The one that is really grabbing me right now is Track 8 on Disc 2.....sorry, not sure of the title......it's just a little short instrumental piece with some almost 70-ish sounding guitar playing that blends into an electric-acoustic prelude.......I have been listening to this over and over.......very un-Priest but just a cool, cool bit of music.....awesome!!! |
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| [spapad] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:54:36 PM | |
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It's a beautiful booklet. There are no pictures of the band in it. It is just artwork and lyrics. Gives you a visual starting point to launch your own imagination.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by The Metallian from Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:44:42 PM)| | | The Metallian wrote: | | A question!
What is in the 48 page booklet,i bought the normal double disc!
They had the booklet one there!
Is it worthbuying?? |
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| [Tephra Rising] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:53:18 PM | |
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| Thanks for the info......but with gas prices being what they are it will cost me my next paycheck and my firstborn child just to drive from here to Portland (Oregon which is about 150 miles from here, and then probably leave my car and hitch hike back home). So I may have to take a rain check. |
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| [spapad] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:50:53 PM | |
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Glad to see someone shares my opinion.
I love the album, I would have bought the discs if I still had an intact stereo system but sadly I don't and need to find some components that don't cost a fortune and still give good sound.
The Priest have never compromised in their willingness to push forward and that is what makes them the true "Masters of Metal". So many bands sound like they just regurgitate the same sound over and over again. I don't feel that with Priest.
BTW you can drive to Orlando Florida from Virginia on the Remasters and still have one unplayed disc. LOL.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Tephra Rising from Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:38:56 PM)| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | spapad, you nailed it.
So I don't just repeat myself, you can read what I think of the new album (yes, I am THAT old, I said album) in the Introduction section. This is a GREAT listen and the more I listen to it the more I like it. I knew it wasn't going to be a British Steel sequel and in fact am glad it's unlike anything Priest has ever done before. Isn't that the whole point anyway?
I am amazed at just how talented these guys are, and in some ways I think Nostradamus demonstrates Rob, Glenn, KK, Ian and Scott's musical talents better than anything they have ever done. Some of the guitar melodies are beautiful, yes I know that's a taboo word in our hardcore world of heavy metal heathens, but I think the CD balances itself out really well. There's plenty of hard stuff to keep us happy like "Visions," "War," "Persecution," etc.
I love this. Priest is back. It's Christmas morning on Planet Metal!!! |
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| [The Metallian] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:49:51 PM | |
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Thanks!
The double cd jewel case has lyrics and a short bio too!
I might buy that book version too,it looked cool!
This album rocks i love it!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Tephra Rising from Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:47:03 PM)| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | I like it. It's mainly very ornate lyrics and artwork but also has a short bio about Nostradamus. Gasp......oh no.......an EDUCATIONAL Judas Priest album!!!!
Seriously, for me it was money well spent. |
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| [Tephra Rising] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:47:03 PM | |
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I like it. It's mainly very ornate lyrics and artwork but also has a short bio about Nostradamus. Gasp......oh no.......an EDUCATIONAL Judas Priest album!!!!
Seriously, for me it was money well spent. |
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| [The Metallian] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:44:42 PM | |
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A question!
What is in the 48 page booklet,i bought the normal double disc!
They had the booklet one there!
Is it worthbuying?? |
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| [Tephra Rising] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:38:56 PM | |
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spapad, you nailed it.
So I don't just repeat myself, you can read what I think of the new album (yes, I am THAT old, I said album) in the Introduction section. This is a GREAT listen and the more I listen to it the more I like it. I knew it wasn't going to be a British Steel sequel and in fact am glad it's unlike anything Priest has ever done before. Isn't that the whole point anyway?
I am amazed at just how talented these guys are, and in some ways I think Nostradamus demonstrates Rob, Glenn, KK, Ian and Scott's musical talents better than anything they have ever done. Some of the guitar melodies are beautiful, yes I know that's a taboo word in our hardcore world of heavy metal heathens, but I think the CD balances itself out really well. There's plenty of hard stuff to keep us happy like "Visions," "War," "Persecution," etc.
I love this. Priest is back. It's Christmas morning on Planet Metal!!! |
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| [spapad] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:33:11 PM | |
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I am sorry for the ADD, instant gratification generation. They are so used to being instantly downloaded with information that they don't have the time to dedicate to this masterpiece of music. Maybe when the videos roll out the whole album for them to visually compensate, because they have not much imagination, they may appreciate it.
Is that mean? No.
Relax, slow down, put head phones on, dim the lights, look at the book, and enjoy the story.
I need to listen to it about a million times more but it's an astounding metal opera!
Long reign the Metal Gods. |
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| [Healer] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:30:57 PM | |
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| I have not been able to stop listening to this new album. And not only that but I have to listen to it from start to finish every time. It's such a massive production and the more I listen the more I hear the brilliance coming out! What else can you say? I mean, Rob singing in Italian and then finishing off in French! Just Brilliant! They threw their hearts and souls into this and it comes out in every note sung and played. |
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| [\m/ Metal Maniac \m/] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:26:07 PM | |
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| Well I gave it my first listen just a few minutes ago, need I say it's a massive effort, as if it weren't already mentioned? It's huge, and aboveall overwhelming, but in a good way. I initally listened to those previews with the expectation that it would be like Painkiller or Screaming, but you really can't look at it like that. This is Priest at a new level, exceeding of all expectations and limits. Does it bother me that there are only about 3 fast songs on this album? Does it bother me that Rob Halford can't sing the high notes like he used to? Absolutely not. If anything this is refreshing to hear; there is not one shred of music on here that alludes to their glory days of leather, chains, and fantasy characters (like the albums past). Not that this is bad, but if that's the type of Priest what you want then spin British Steel or Defenders. But if you want something more, then prepare to be blown away with the new album. Nostradamus more than delivers, and I can see this being my favorite album by them. I give it a 9.5 out of 10 (as I've never given an album a 10/10, but this is damn close). |
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 6:37:55 PM | |
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okay I have had time to soak up the nostradamus suds.............. And I will say yes it is different, from old priest.. I expected it to be.. Surprised.. NO..
They can definatley still rock out.. The title track Nostradamus is heavy.. although I do like the other tracks.. Alone prob my fav.. Visions I thought was good too.
Every song tells a story.. which is different from what most bands are producing right now.. And what the general public is listening too.. I was hoping for a little bit of the old priest to come through.. kind of like how the album Operation Mind Crime was.. a story.. But very heavy.. All In All Iam enjoying the cd.. And would go see them regardless.. They have been a solid band with a very great History.. All Hail the Mighty Priest... I give them alot of credit for producing, and changing thier style
to do something they have wanted to try.. after all they have given us fans almost 35 years of what we have wanted.. And I support them.. Thier own history proves they are and will be one~ of if not the best heavy metal rockin bands that have exsisted.
 Tha tha tha tha thats all folks...
MG~ Kenny I love ya! |
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 6:26:13 PM | |
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| [scaryman] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:37:20 PM | |
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Well DF.....i have to say, i don't think your wrong at all, I think Mr.Ward's comments were ott, his view (no matter what it is) is valid, but there was no need to verbally assassinate the band. I realise Mr.Ward is unhappy with what the band has done over the last 18 years, and has expressed this and then some.
I think you have every right to defend A band you love.
btw i've listened to the nostradamus again and i'm lovin' it!!! 
Well done priest!!! 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:03:24 PM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Please allow me to say that it appears I was wrong. I must have been having a bad day and I clearly let this get out of hand. My apologies to Mr. Ward for the treatment and rude comments. Not everyone is going to like this new album. It is a clear departure from what we have come to expect, especially given that AoR was really so good (in my opinion).
There is really no cause to go on about demeaning others. It is obvious that I misunderstood Mr. Ward's comments. My apologies to all.
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:17:30 PM | |
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Thanks Freeze,
I am some what dissappointed in this album,I think the band is heading in the wrong direction of song writting...I'm ok with the opera and the dark feeling presented but the song writting itself I do not care for.The only song that kicks ass on this LP in my opinion is "Nostradamus".....if all the other tracks were in the same vien as this,it would of been 100% better.The song War is a good track as well,but the over all opinion of mine is just that theres about 8 main tracks on this album that I don't care for....,,,this is why change is not good......this album was just not done the "right" way....what that is ...I don't know but they did'nt do it! lol!
What they need to do next(and probly thier last)album is go for the full throat and pound out a traditional classic only approach,but I'm afraid it might be to late as the band is very into this sound now....there might not be any turning back......we may have just see the band's final album of traditional styled british heavy metal in 2005's "Angel Of Retribution"!! Wow,who would of thought? Again,to anyone........I'm not 'bashing" the band here.....I'm just giving my opinion and I do give hails to Judas Priest for thier 100% effort on Nostradamus,but I do not think it is one of thier best albums in thier 16 album career. I do think that Angel Of Retribution is the band's 5th best studio LP with only British Steel,Screaming For Vengeance,Sad Wings Of Destiny and Painkiller that top it.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Monday, June 16, 2008 6:06:59 PM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Well said, JD. Very well said, indeed.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | MELTDOWN, my friend at work burned this CD for me and I did listen to the entire CD,and I have to say that I fully 100% agree with you and your post. I do not like this CD with the exceptions of the song "Nostradamus" and a couple of intros....Visions was "ok" ...but the over all opinion of mine....I just do not care for it but it is well put together,I give them full credit,its just that you can't please everybody...some people out there do not like Angel Of Retribution....but to me with the exception of Lockness the only song I don't care for off the album...the other 9 tracks are classic Judas Priest....
You could even throw out Revolution if ya wanted and still have 8 classic Judas Priest songs that make an albums worth....Judas Rising,Deal With The Devil,Worth Fighting For,Demonizer,Wheels Of Fire,Angel,Eulogy and Hellrider ..........Angel Of Retribution I think is far better work than Nostradamus...but I am not going to bash the album to bits,I've liked this band to long to do that,and this is not like Turbo....I think Deep Freeze said it best when he said that he has never been dissappointed with thier effort that the give. I do think that this new album is done with the bands full 100% and not some half assed effort,no...this is thier heart and soul poured into this and I hail them for that alone.I am just into the traditional british heavy metal sound....some of this reminds me of new "Blind Guardian" from Germany....with the synths everywhere......its just the "song writting" that I don't care for...not the pace of these songs....... I as well wanted the whole album to be more in a Painkiller/Angel Of Retribution/Screaming For Vengeance with a touch of Sad Wings Of Destiny.
Judas Priest will always be my all time favorite band from 1980 when I first heard Breaking The Law up till now and beyond.That will never change even if the band stays into this new style...so be it.
| | | METAL MELTDOWN wrote: | | | Afternoon folks....I am going to say that I did listen to a few minutes of each track and I was somewhat dissappointed. I say that because I have been waiting for another "Painkiller" or "British Steel" on each and every album. I am not knocking the album but I was hoping for an album of barnburners in the vein of Painkiller and half of AOR. I do think that, in time, this will grow on me but at the moment I do feel a little let down. It may be because my musical direction has taken a turn towards more progressive power metal, IDK. I did order the 39 buck package and had it expressed in. It should be in today as they emailed and said it shipped last friday. I really will not be able to tell completely without giving the entire CD a listen but I have the feeling that I am not going to like it too much.....Sorry |
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| [Soylentgreen4u] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 4:26:46 PM | |
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WELL IT LOOKS LIKE I'LL HAVE TO BE A LITTLE CRITICAL REGARDING A CERTAIN PERSONS LINE OF THINKING ABOUT WHAT TO EXPECT FROM 'NOSTRADAMUS'...AND THAT PERSON IS MYSELF...(HA,GOTCHA,YOU THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO NEEDLESSLY ATTACK SOMEONE ELSE ON THE BOARD,NOT MY STYLE) I FOUND MYSELF KIND OF PINING FOR A GOOD HELPING OF DEFENDERS-S.F.V. STYLE OF PRIEST,BUT AS RELEASE TIME CAME CLOSER AND CLOSER,MY EXPECTATIONS BECAME MORE REALISTIC (TO ME). GREAT JUMPING JEHOVAH!!!,JUDAS HAS BEEN POUNDING METAL OUR WAY SINCE 1974,WITH CLASSICS FROM ROCKA ROLLA,CHEATER,
SINNER,EXCITER,THE STEELER,JAWBREAKER,RAM IT DOWN TO DEAL WITH THE DEVIL!
34 YEARS!...34 YEARS!!!...SO IF THEY DECIDED TO TRY GOING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION,SO BE IT.
YES,(AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE NOT AROUND FOR PRIEST BACK THEN) THEY WERE SOUNDLY FLOGGED AND RAKED OVER THE COALS FOR 'ENTRY' AND 'TURBO',BUT FANS CAME AROUND FOR THOSE ALBUMS TOO.(NO,I'M NOT COMPARING THE PRODUCT, JUST SOME OF THE RESPONSE) SO THIS WILL NOT BE NEW GROUND COVERED FOR PRIEST.
SOOOO HAVING SAID ALL THAT,I STRAPPED MYSELF IN TO THE LAUNCHING PAD OF LISTENING AND FOUND MYSELF TO BE MUCH MORE ACCEPTING OF THE NEW PRODUCT.
HERE'S HOPING (NOT DICTATING) YOU FIND IT AS ENJOYABLE AND UNIQUE AS I. (IF NOT MORE)
MY COLLECTION WOULD NOT BE COMPLETE WITHOUT IT...I DIDN'T FALL IN LOVE WITH IT,BUT I LIKED IT. AND IN TIME, I'M SURE IT WILL GROW ON ME EVEN MORE.
I GIVE IT A 7 OUT OF 10  ...
CHEERS EVERYONE.......
ALL HAIL THE PRIEST... |
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| [Soylentgreen4u] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 4:02:05 PM | |
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HI AUNTIE EM ...LEAVING VERY SOON..A SLIGHT DELAY SO I MANAGED TO LISTEN TO THE C.D.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MEDALGODDESS from Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:08:08 PM)| | | MEDALGODDESS wrote: | | Hey Buddy.. Let me know that you have made it to Ottawa Okay.. So I dont worry~
I voice my little opinion on the other thread..lol I love some of it.. and Like some of it.. I cannot say anything bad in regards to this album. So far so good.
All the guys sound very good.. Considering all of the different music that has come out since AOR.. I do like this album.
| | | soylentgreen4u wrote: | | GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...WELL ACTUALLY GOT IT ABOUT 3:30 IN THE BLESSED A.M. THIS MORNING...NOW IF I CAN JUST BE ALLOWED SOME TIME TODAY OR TOMORROW TO LISTEN TO THE ENTIRE WORKS ,THAT WOULD BE SOOOOOOOOOOO GREAT!...AND FOR ONLY $17...NO COMPLAINTS HERE,VERY FAIR,WHEN YOU CONSIDER SOME OF THE OTHER GARBAGE OUT THERE CHARGING $25,$30,$35 AND MORE PER C.D.!  ....FREE TIP: SHOPPING AT WAL-MART AT 3 IN THE MORNING ISN'T SO BAD,EVEN THOUGH I HARDLY EVER GO IN THERE,IF YOU GOTTA GO IT'S A GOOD TIME. |
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