These are not great examples JD. Take On The World and United are two of the weakest songs Priest have ever released in my opinion. I hate those songs. I also find Breaking The Law boring as hell as well. Love Bites is ok but not one of DOTFs best songs. I actually kind of agree with both Brian and yourself on this one. I think a true metal song should have some kind of shredding guitar solo in it somewhere but like you say, lots of bands do fine without them, especially in some of the sub-genres of metal. Bands who have made their name with deadly soloing and shredding should always continue in that vein, then we would never have albums like St Anger thrust upon us. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:22:16 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Brian Evans wrote: "What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo".
I "disagree" fully. What every good "heavy metal" track should have is an excellent guitar solo. As you don't know the black metal thrash metal or death metal genre/scene,you don't understand these styles of metal so you need to type "heavy" before typing "metal" when you talk about having these needed guitar solos. Guitar solos do not fit in every song of every style of "metal" at all no matter what rubbish you can come up with here Brian.
The fact is that they don't belong in every song of every style of "metal".This is the area where your extremely weak at understanding.Its like asking why isn't there any guitar solos in most punk?
What about Breaking The Law and what about "Take On The World" by JP...they do not have a guitar solo in them,are they not good? What about United? No guitar solo in it.
Or how about Love Bites Brian? Love Bites does NOT have a guitar solo in it,only harmony bends that couldn't come close to be considered a "guitar solo"...so is Love Bites lame becaise of your philosophy?
(Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:12:03 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
Long?? Plodding?? Predictable?? Whatever. You just don't know good metal when you hear it. Ha!
Nice Rainmaker video, I listened to the part between 2:05 and 2:28 about 50 times! What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo. Murray is sick!
guidogodoy wrote:
Bleah. Long, plodding, predictable.
I try. I really do. Just wasted 7+ minutes of my life, though. I am all for Nosta against anything Maiden has done of late save for one....with the goofy video.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Yeah that song is excellent.
Here's a good live version
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
The Longest Day,an excellent Iron maiden song.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Out of the Shadows from the 2006 "A Matter Of Life and Death" album. This sounds just as good as older Maiden and if you ask me it could have easily come from 1982's "The Number Of the Beast" album. Same quality vocals, drums, guitars, songwriting, ect.
Edited at: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:53:33 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, March 23, 2010 2:08:18 AM
Or even how about "Twilight Zone" by your one and only Iron Maiden Brian,those guitars what you hear are not solos,they are harmony bends and harmony bends are a far cry from what you are calling "good solo" as you think every "good metal song" should have "good solos" in them......"Heading Out To The Highway" doesn't have "good solos " in it,only harmony bends....
Give Twilight Zone from the Killers album a listen and you will find no "good" solos in them......
So what are you trying to say? That the song "Twilight Zone" is not a "good" metal track? There DEFINATELY is no guitar solos in it,only easy bends any unexperienced guitar player could easily do so whats your answer for this and all the other tracks I've listed with no "good" guitar solos in it?
Brian Evans wrote: "What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo".
I "disagree" fully. What every good "heavy metal" track should have is an excellent guitar solo. As you don't know the black metal thrash metal or death metal genre/scene,you don't understand these styles of metal so you need to type "heavy" before typing "metal" when you talk about having these needed guitar solos. Guitar solos do not fit in every song of every style of "metal" at all no matter what rubbish you can come up with here Brian.
The fact is that they don't belong in every song of every style of "metal".This is the area where your extremely weak at understanding.Its like asking why isn't there any guitar solos in most punk?
What about Breaking The Law and what about "Take On The World" by JP...they do not have a guitar solo in them,are they not good? What about United? No guitar solo in it.
Or how about Love Bites Brian? Love Bites does NOT have a guitar solo in it,only harmony bends that couldn't come close to be considered a "guitar solo"...so is Love Bites lame becaise of your philosophy?
(Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:12:03 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
Long?? Plodding?? Predictable?? Whatever. You just don't know good metal when you hear it. Ha!
Nice Rainmaker video, I listened to the part between 2:05 and 2:28 about 50 times! What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo. Murray is sick!
guidogodoy wrote:
Bleah. Long, plodding, predictable.
I try. I really do. Just wasted 7+ minutes of my life, though. I am all for Nosta against anything Maiden has done of late save for one....with the goofy video.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Yeah that song is excellent.
Here's a good live version
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
The Longest Day,an excellent Iron maiden song.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Out of the Shadows from the 2006 "A Matter Of Life and Death" album. This sounds just as good as older Maiden and if you ask me it could have easily come from 1982's "The Number Of the Beast" album. Same quality vocals, drums, guitars, songwriting, ect.
Edited at: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 2:14:18 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:22:16 AM
Brian Evans wrote: "What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo".
I "disagree" fully. What every good "heavy metal" track should have is an excellent guitar solo. As you don't know the black metal thrash metal or death metal genre/scene,you don't understand these styles of metal so you need to type "heavy" before typing "metal" when you talk about having these needed guitar solos. Guitar solos do not fit in every song of every style of "metal" at all no matter what rubbish you can come up with here Brian.
The fact is that they don't belong in every song of every style of "metal".This is the area where your extremely weak at understanding.Its like asking why isn't there any guitar solos in most punk?
What about Breaking The Law and what about "Take On The World" by JP...they do not have a guitar solo in them,are they not good? What about United? No guitar solo in it.
Or how about Love Bites Brian? Love Bites does NOT have a guitar solo in it,only harmony bends that couldn't come close to be considered a "guitar solo"...so is Love Bites lame becaise of your philosophy?
Long?? Plodding?? Predictable?? Whatever. You just don't know good metal when you hear it. Ha!
Nice Rainmaker video, I listened to the part between 2:05 and 2:28 about 50 times! What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo. Murray is sick!
guidogodoy wrote:
Bleah. Long, plodding, predictable.
I try. I really do. Just wasted 7+ minutes of my life, though. I am all for Nosta against anything Maiden has done of late save for one....with the goofy video.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Yeah that song is excellent.
Here's a good live version
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
The Longest Day,an excellent Iron maiden song.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Out of the Shadows from the 2006 "A Matter Of Life and Death" album. This sounds just as good as older Maiden and if you ask me it could have easily come from 1982's "The Number Of the Beast" album. Same quality vocals, drums, guitars, songwriting, ect.
Edited at: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:53:33 AM
[guidogodoy] Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:41:48 PM
LOL!!!!! No, not long nor plodding. Compared with what, I might ask? BWWAHAAHAAAAAA!!!
Long?? Plodding?? Predictable?? Whatever. You just don't know good metal when you hear it. Ha!
Nice Rainmaker video, I listened to the part between 2:05 and 2:28 about 50 times! What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo. Murray is sick!
guidogodoy wrote:
Bleah. Long, plodding, predictable.
I try. I really do. Just wasted 7+ minutes of my life, though. I am all for Nosta against anything Maiden has done of late save for one....with the goofy video.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Yeah that song is excellent.
Here's a good live version
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
The Longest Day,an excellent Iron maiden song.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Out of the Shadows from the 2006 "A Matter Of Life and Death" album. This sounds just as good as older Maiden and if you ask me it could have easily come from 1982's "The Number Of the Beast" album. Same quality vocals, drums, guitars, songwriting, ect.
Edited at: Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:20:08 AM
[Brian_Evans] Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:12:03 PM
Long?? Plodding?? Predictable?? Whatever. You just don't know good metal when you hear it. Ha!
Nice Rainmaker video, I listened to the part between 2:05 and 2:28 about 50 times! What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo. Murray is sick! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, March 21, 2010 9:07:36 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Bleah. Long, plodding, predictable.
I try. I really do. Just wasted 7+ minutes of my life, though. I am all for Nosta against anything Maiden has done of late save for one....with the goofy video.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Yeah that song is excellent.
Here's a good live version
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
The Longest Day,an excellent Iron maiden song.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Out of the Shadows from the 2006 "A Matter Of Life and Death" album. This sounds just as good as older Maiden and if you ask me it could have easily come from 1982's "The Number Of the Beast" album. Same quality vocals, drums, guitars, songwriting, ect.
Edited at: Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:20:08 AM
[guidogodoy] Sunday, March 21, 2010 9:07:36 PM
Bleah. Long, plodding, predictable.
I try. I really do. Just wasted 7+ minutes of my life, though. I am all for Nosta against anything Maiden has done of late save for one....with the goofy video.
Out of the Shadows from the 2006 "A Matter Of Life and Death" album. This sounds just as good as older Maiden and if you ask me it could have easily come from 1982's "The Number Of the Beast" album. Same quality vocals, drums, guitars, songwriting, ect.
Out of the Shadows from the 2006 "A Matter Of Life and Death" album. This sounds just as good as older Maiden and if you ask me it could have easily come from 1982's "The Number Of the Beast" album. Same quality vocals, drums, guitars, songwriting, ect.
Edited at: Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:20:08 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, March 20, 2010 1:08:10 PM
The Longest Day,an excellent Iron maiden song. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:19:07 AM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
Out of the Shadows from the 2006 "A Matter Of Life and Death" album. This sounds just as good as older Maiden and if you ask me it could have easily come from 1982's "The Number Of the Beast" album. Same quality vocals, drums, guitars, songwriting, ect.
Edited at: Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:20:08 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, March 20, 2010 1:04:50 PM
Yeah your right,its all about opinions,mine is no different as I don't have the final say in anything,its simply only my opinion.The new album may be awsome,who knows.Saxon released thier single "Live To Rock" last year before the album(Into The Labyrinth)was released and I HATED it and still do.
"Live To Rock" is a boring lame weak song that sucks and I was heavily disappointed,it sounds like a washed up bad-era-Saxon track and I think the band could of come up with something better.But the rest of the album is a good Saxon LP...well I forgot to add "Hell Cat" that song SUCKS lol! But the album has 13 tracks on it and 2 of them utterly suck so 11 tracks is enough to make a great album.
A Matter Of Life And Death is a great album with 10 songs on it there are only 2 tracks that I do not like and its the same senario as when Saxon released Live To Rock as I don't like Maiden's first 2 tracks they released to the fans "Different World" and "Benjamin Bragg" and I was disappointed with them.
But the other 8 songs I really like,those 8 songs although they are a little bit progressive but in a great way done right they remind me of material from Piece Of Mind and Powerslave. The Pilgrim for example could of been on the Powerslave album and in my opinion Out Of The Shadows sounds more Piece Of Mind than The Number Of The Beast to me as Piece Of Mind is one of my favorite Iron Maiden albums.
The Longest Day is excellent and is "underrated" in my opinion,the lyrics to that song are brilliant and over-looked. I think that A Matter Of Life And Death is the best Iron Maiden album since 1988 Seventh Son album but to others they don't like it,its all opinions and again mine isn't the final say.
How about this...I wish I liked Brave New Worlds and Dance Of Death as much as I like A Matter Of Life And Death but I just don't. And your right about the last 2 albums by both bands as Maiden definately topped Priest with AMOLAD over Nostradamus,easily. I just hope I'm wrong about the new Maiden album,I don't want to be let down as I've been a fan since 1982.
Out of the Shadows from the 2006 "A Matter Of Life and Death" album. This sounds just as good as older Maiden and if you ask me it could have easily come from 1982's "The Number Of the Beast" album. Same quality vocals, drums, guitars, songwriting, ect.
Edited at: Saturday, March 20, 2010 1:20:06 PM
[Brian_Evans] Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:19:07 AM
Out of the Shadows from the 2006 "A Matter Of Life and Death" album. This sounds just as good as older Maiden and if you ask me it could have easily come from 1982's "The Number Of the Beast" album. Same quality vocals, drums, guitars, songwriting, ect.
Edited at: Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:20:08 AM
[Brian_Evans] Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:02:17 AM
Well thats just your opinion man about Maiden loosing a step. And even if the people at your job think old Maiden is so much better doesn't mean everyone thinks that way. And thats enough of the "Star Trek" cracks. Just because the new album is named "The Final Frontier" doesn't mean it has anything to do with Star Trek. Understand? And I'm not saying that Iron Maiden is better than Judas Priest but if you look at the last album of each Iron Maiden clearly won that round with "A Matter OF Life And Death" over "Nostradamus". And the way things are going Iron Maiden will release The Final Frontier and maybe even start another album before Judas Priest get their new one out. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, March 20, 2010 1:29:53 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
!! Ah ha ha,well your right about some things...it does have not "good" vocals but "great" vocals and it has TOP notch guitar solos,excellent bass by the best bass player on the planet hands down,great drums by Nicko but you can keep on thinking that this track sounds like a cross between Hallowed Be Thy Name and The Trooper because I already know I'm not the only one who thinks it sounds NOTHING like those songs at all,that track in my opinion is an under-par song by what should be a great song writting band.
This is all opinions,nobody wins in the end but if we had a vote on this sounding like Hallowed Be Thy Name mixed with The Trooper I'd bet 98% of people would think that it certainly does not. You go ahead and love thier new stuff but I'm not the only one who thinks this band has lost a step.
Even people at my work who are not a part of this forum think that Iron Maiden's newer era material is definately not as good quality as thier 80's stuff,it is what is is guy,this also doesn't make these people right,oh no not at all,as I said its all opinions.If you like the newer Maiden stuff then it "IS" great in your mind case closed.But if you want to talk about percentages then at least I'd probably say that 85% of people do not care for thier newer stuff,it just is what it is.
Same with Judas Priest man although Angel Of Retribution kicks ass and is to me the band's 5th best album of all time,many people think that thier best work is from 1976 to 1990 as the Ripper albums and Nostradamus doesn't come close.Jackylone would beg to differ with us I know(lol!) but the truth is that the majority of people like the older stuff.
The big match up is comparing the new Iron Maiden album "The Final Frontier" with the next Judas Priest album and let me tell you that I don't think Iron Maiden is going to beat Judas Priest on an opinon percentage with thier next LP and I don't think the band plans on doing another Nostradamus so Maiden is probably and I underline "probably" going to be crushed to death by this next Judas Priest studio album.Priest can come out of nowhere and thump the heaviest album you've ever heard while there is NO WAY Iron Maiden is capable of doing this Brian.
Brian_Evans wrote:
"another folk song that doesn't sound anything like Iron Maiden should sound like"
Hmmmm, folk song, thats interesting but it sounds like Maiden to me. I'm scratching my head on this one man. Folk song? Ha!! This thing has it all, good vocals, good solo, fast, slow. What else do you want?This is like a cross between Hallowed beThy Name and the Trooper. Doesn't get much better.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
HRMG & Becks,I agree.... Jimmy James I agree with the themes are not bad,the lyrics are not bad,the song titles are not bad but this music dude...this music...heres another one.."Dream Of Mirrors" from the half good half bad Brave New World album,another folk song that doesn't sound anything like Iron Maiden should sound like.
Edited at: Friday, March 19, 2010 1:41:51 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, March 20, 2010 2:22:37 AM
Well its all about an individual's opinion but in my opinion I think Iron Maiden should of done an old classic album like The Number Of The Beast in its entirety or Piece Of Mind just like Priest is doing with British Steel and I would also not want to hear Nostradamus in its entirety either,I just think it takes time maybe 10 years or so to see if an albums going to bloom into a classic by the opinions of the long time fans or not before they decide to play an entire album live but thats just my take on it.This would give the band a better idea of the majority of what fans want to hear or not to hear. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by soccer star from Saturday, March 20, 2010 1:54:47 AM)
soccer star wrote:
I second that !! lol..
Both Maiden and Priest (in my opinion) released their best stuff in the 80s/early 90s. Yes there have been some magic moments since but if both bands only played their 'later' songs on the next tour most fans would be
pissed off.Maiden had this problem when they played 'A Matter Of Life And Death' start to finish, i know a lot of fans didn't like it but i thought it was a good idea.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, March 20, 2010 2:15:38 AM
I agree Becks,the name of the new album 'The Final Frontier" sounds like a Star Trek idea,Star Trek had this title for years and even to this day when somebody says The Final Frontier...the only thing you think about is the Star Trek tv series with "Space.....The Final Frontier.....These are the voyagers of the Star Trek Enterprise....ect..ect... so it is not a good idea from the start to have this title.
It could be worse but still,its not a good idea especially if there is indeed a song called "Where No Man Has Gone Before" as those words are at the end of the opening Star Trek narration : "To Boldly Go Where No Man Has Gone Before" HAHA! And if that track is the actually title "Murky Space Race"?? That sounds like a level 3 of a Bugs Bunny video game!! lol!!!
And the track title "Longing For Heaven" sounds tame lame pssive and weak,not trying to bring anyones religion into this(another thread for that HA!lol!)but for a heavy metal band "Longing For Heaven" is weak and tame,we don't want to hear about any of this we want something "cool". I'll bet these song titles are the real ones....we'll see.
Well said JD - Priest can come just about out of nowhere with a crazy awesome heavy metal monster! There was the craziness (for lack of a better term) of the Turbo and Ram It Down albums, then along came a little thing called PAINKILLER and it kicked everyones eardrums in to the next dimension. It'll be interesting to see what this next Maiden album will be like - more of what they've done the last few albums, or will they go back to the earlier sound? I do hope they come out with something awesome, but even just the album title alone has already raised a few eyebrows. I reckon Priest will come out with something better than Maiden too, I'm keeping the JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY METAL FAITH!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
!! Ah ha ha,well your right about some things...it does have not "good" vocals but "great" vocals and it has TOP notch guitar solos,excellent bass by the best bass player on the planet hands down,great drums by Nicko but you can keep on thinking that this track sounds like a cross between Hallowed Be Thy Name and The Trooper because I already know I'm not the only one who thinks it sounds NOTHING like those songs at all,that track in my opinion is an under-par song by what should be a great song writting band.
This is all opinions,nobody wins in the end but if we had a vote on this sounding like Hallowed Be Thy Name mixed with The Trooper I'd bet 98% of people would think that it certainly does not. You go ahead and love thier new stuff but I'm not the only one who thinks this band has lost a step.
Even people at my work who are not a part of this forum think that Iron Maiden's newer era material is definately not as good quality as thier 80's stuff,it is what is is guy,this also doesn't make these people right,oh no not at all,as I said its all opinions.If you like the newer Maiden stuff then it "IS" great in your mind case closed.But if you want to talk about percentages then at least I'd probably say that 85% of people do not care for thier newer stuff,it just is what it is.
Same with Judas Priest man although Angel Of Retribution kicks ass and is to me the band's 5th best album of all time,many people think that thier best work is from 1976 to 1990 as the Ripper albums and Nostradamus doesn't come close.Jackylone would beg to differ with us I know(lol!) but the truth is that the majority of people like the older stuff.
The big match up is comparing the new Iron Maiden album "The Final Frontier" with the next Judas Priest album and let me tell you that I don't think Iron Maiden is going to beat Judas Priest on an opinon percentage with thier next LP and I don't think the band plans on doing another Nostradamus so Maiden is probably and I underline "probably" going to be crushed to death by this next Judas Priest studio album.Priest can come out of nowhere and thump the heaviest album you've ever heard while there is NO WAY Iron Maiden is capable of doing this Brian.
Brian_Evans wrote:
"another folk song that doesn't sound anything like Iron Maiden should sound like"
Hmmmm, folk song, thats interesting but it sounds like Maiden to me. I'm scratching my head on this one man. Folk song? Ha!! This thing has it all, good vocals, good solo, fast, slow. What else do you want?This is like a cross between Hallowed beThy Name and the Trooper. Doesn't get much better.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
HRMG & Becks,I agree.... Jimmy James I agree with the themes are not bad,the lyrics are not bad,the song titles are not bad but this music dude...this music...heres another one.."Dream Of Mirrors" from the half good half bad Brave New World album,another folk song that doesn't sound anything like Iron Maiden should sound like.
Edited at: Friday, March 19, 2010 1:41:51 PM
[soccer star] Saturday, March 20, 2010 1:54:47 AM
I second that !! lol..
Both Maiden and Priest (in my opinion) released their best stuff in the 80s/early 90s. Yes there have been some magic moments since but if both bands only played their 'later' songs on the next tour most fans would be
pissed off.Maiden had this problem when they played 'A Matter Of Life And Death' start to finish, i know a lot of fans didn't like it but i thought it was a good idea.
[Becks] Saturday, March 20, 2010 1:51:04 AM
Well said JD - Priest can come just about out of nowhere with a crazy awesome heavy metal monster! There was the craziness (for lack of a better term) of the Turbo and Ram It Down albums, then along came a little thing called PAINKILLER and it kicked everyones eardrums in to the next dimension. It'll be interesting to see what this next Maiden album will be like - more of what they've done the last few albums, or will they go back to the earlier sound? I do hope they come out with something awesome, but even just the album title alone has already raised a few eyebrows. I reckon Priest will come out with something better than Maiden too, I'm keeping the JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY METAL FAITH! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, March 20, 2010 1:29:53 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
!! Ah ha ha,well your right about some things...it does have not "good" vocals but "great" vocals and it has TOP notch guitar solos,excellent bass by the best bass player on the planet hands down,great drums by Nicko but you can keep on thinking that this track sounds like a cross between Hallowed Be Thy Name and The Trooper because I already know I'm not the only one who thinks it sounds NOTHING like those songs at all,that track in my opinion is an under-par song by what should be a great song writting band.
This is all opinions,nobody wins in the end but if we had a vote on this sounding like Hallowed Be Thy Name mixed with The Trooper I'd bet 98% of people would think that it certainly does not. You go ahead and love thier new stuff but I'm not the only one who thinks this band has lost a step.
Even people at my work who are not a part of this forum think that Iron Maiden's newer era material is definately not as good quality as thier 80's stuff,it is what is is guy,this also doesn't make these people right,oh no not at all,as I said its all opinions.If you like the newer Maiden stuff then it "IS" great in your mind case closed.But if you want to talk about percentages then at least I'd probably say that 85% of people do not care for thier newer stuff,it just is what it is.
Same with Judas Priest man although Angel Of Retribution kicks ass and is to me the band's 5th best album of all time,many people think that thier best work is from 1976 to 1990 as the Ripper albums and Nostradamus doesn't come close.Jackylone would beg to differ with us I know(lol!) but the truth is that the majority of people like the older stuff.
The big match up is comparing the new Iron Maiden album "The Final Frontier" with the next Judas Priest album and let me tell you that I don't think Iron Maiden is going to beat Judas Priest on an opinon percentage with thier next LP and I don't think the band plans on doing another Nostradamus so Maiden is probably and I underline "probably" going to be crushed to death by this next Judas Priest studio album.Priest can come out of nowhere and thump the heaviest album you've ever heard while there is NO WAY Iron Maiden is capable of doing this Brian.
Brian_Evans wrote:
"another folk song that doesn't sound anything like Iron Maiden should sound like"
Hmmmm, folk song, thats interesting but it sounds like Maiden to me. I'm scratching my head on this one man. Folk song? Ha!! This thing has it all, good vocals, good solo, fast, slow. What else do you want?This is like a cross between Hallowed beThy Name and the Trooper. Doesn't get much better.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
HRMG & Becks,I agree.... Jimmy James I agree with the themes are not bad,the lyrics are not bad,the song titles are not bad but this music dude...this music...heres another one.."Dream Of Mirrors" from the half good half bad Brave New World album,another folk song that doesn't sound anything like Iron Maiden should sound like.
Edited at: Friday, March 19, 2010 1:41:51 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, March 20, 2010 1:29:53 AM
!! Ah ha ha,well your right about some things...it does have not "good" vocals but "great" vocals and it has TOP notch guitar solos,excellent bass by the best bass player on the planet hands down,great drums by Nicko but you can keep on thinking that this track sounds like a cross between Hallowed Be Thy Name and The Trooper because I already know I'm not the only one who thinks it sounds NOTHING like those songs at all,that track in my opinion is an under-par song by what should be a great song writting band.
This is all opinions,nobody wins in the end but if we had a vote on this sounding like Hallowed Be Thy Name mixed with The Trooper I'd bet 98% of people would think that it certainly does not. You go ahead and love thier new stuff but I'm not the only one who thinks this band has lost a step.
Even people at my work who are not a part of this forum think that Iron Maiden's newer era material is definately not as good quality as thier 80's stuff,it is what is is guy,this also doesn't make these people right,oh no not at all,as I said its all opinions.If you like the newer Maiden stuff then it "IS" great in your mind case closed.But if you want to talk about percentages then at least I'd probably say that 85% of people do not care for thier newer stuff,it just is what it is.
Same with Judas Priest man although Angel Of Retribution kicks ass and is to me the band's 5th best album of all time,many people think that thier best work is from 1976 to 1990 as the Ripper albums and Nostradamus doesn't come close.Jackylone would beg to differ with us I know(lol!) but the truth is that the majority of people like the older stuff.
The big match up is comparing the new Iron Maiden album "The Final Frontier" with the next Judas Priest album and let me tell you that I don't think Iron Maiden is going to beat Judas Priest on an opinon percentage with thier next LP and I don't think the band plans on doing another Nostradamus so Maiden is probably and I underline "probably" going to be crushed to death by this next Judas Priest studio album.Priest can come out of nowhere and thump the heaviest album you've ever heard while there is NO WAY Iron Maiden is capable of doing this Brian.
"another folk song that doesn't sound anything like Iron Maiden should sound like"
Hmmmm, folk song, thats interesting but it sounds like Maiden to me. I'm scratching my head on this one man. Folk song? Ha!! This thing has it all, good vocals, good solo, fast, slow. What else do you want?This is like a cross between Hallowed beThy Name and the Trooper. Doesn't get much better.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
HRMG & Becks,I agree.... Jimmy James I agree with the themes are not bad,the lyrics are not bad,the song titles are not bad but this music dude...this music...heres another one.."Dream Of Mirrors" from the half good half bad Brave New World album,another folk song that doesn't sound anything like Iron Maiden should sound like.
Edited at: Friday, March 19, 2010 1:41:51 PM
[Brian_Evans] Friday, March 19, 2010 10:00:51 PM
"another folk song that doesn't sound anything like Iron Maiden should sound like"
Hmmmm, folk song, thats interesting but it sounds like Maiden to me. I'm scratching my head on this one man. Folk song? Ha!! This thing has it all, good vocals, good solo, fast, slow. What else do you want?This is like a cross between Hallowed beThy Name and the Trooper. Doesn't get much better. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, March 19, 2010 1:37:59 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
HRMG & Becks,I agree.... Jimmy James I agree with the themes are not bad,the lyrics are not bad,the song titles are not bad but this music dude...this music...heres another one.."Dream Of Mirrors" from the half good half bad Brave New World album,another folk song that doesn't sound anything like Iron Maiden should sound like.
Edited at: Friday, March 19, 2010 1:41:51 PM
[hellrider 31038] Friday, March 19, 2010 4:32:04 PM
HEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL YEEEEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY METAL SISTER
JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY MEEETTT TTTAAALLLL AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Fucken oath JD! Priest is the best heavy metal band in the world, EVER!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Old Iron Maiden is good,new era Saxon is good but heres a band that kicks both Iron Maiden and Saxon's ass combined together with no question,Judas Priest's music is 10 times as great as any other band its magical and unbeatable but I'm sure Mr.Evans will disagree with this even though he is on our forum HA!
That song is too damn long. I'd rather listen to this one! Only six minutes long, but so much better!!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Really? Then how come this doesn't sound like anything close to ...well....."Iron Maiden'? As a matter of fact,everybody should click on this track and give it a listen,this to my ears doesn't sound anything close to Iron Maiden,it sounds like a folk song dude,and even if it doesn't sound like Maiden it still is a terrible song,this is quality Iron Maiden to you?
(Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Friday, March 19, 2010 12:02:48 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
They do but for some reason you just can't hear it.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Ah,Moonchild from the last good(all the way through)album from Iron Maiden! Now,why can't they write music like this anymore?
jimmyjames wrote:
Awesome.
Brian_Evans wrote:
A little Moonchild for ya! From Maidens seventh studio album, Seventh Son of a Seventh Son. Enjoy.
Edited at: Friday, March 19, 2010 1:05:58 PM
[Becks] Friday, March 19, 2010 4:16:38 PM
Fucken oath JD! Priest is the best heavy metal band in the world, EVER! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, March 19, 2010 1:56:55 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Old Iron Maiden is good,new era Saxon is good but heres a band that kicks both Iron Maiden and Saxon's ass combined together with no question,Judas Priest's music is 10 times as great as any other band its magical and unbeatable but I'm sure Mr.Evans will disagree with this even though he is on our forum HA!
LOL!!!!! No, not long nor plodding. Compared with what, I might ask? BWWAHAAHAAAAAA!!! 
!! Ah ha ha,well your right about some things...it does have not "good" vocals but "great" vocals and it has TOP notch guitar solos,excellent bass by the best bass player on the planet hands down,great drums by Nicko but you can keep on thinking that this track sounds like a cross between Hallowed Be Thy Name and The Trooper because I already know I'm not the only one who thinks it sounds NOTHING like those songs at all,that track in my opinion is an under-par song by what should be a great song writting band.
