[guidogodoy] Saturday, October 09, 2010 3:35:54 PM
Fine argument but you have far more of the "world's greatest Priest fans" such as myself saying that we like Priest and even the majority of Halford's solo material. While I do take issue with some of Priest's / Halford's decisions, as a whole I appreciate how they are willing to go out on a limb musically.
Exactly the reason why most "diehard Priest fans" ultimately gave up on Maiden ... the exact point you mention: predictable to the point of annoyance and tedium. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, October 09, 2010 3:14:04 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Some of it's not as good but Maiden have never completely abandoned their style in an attempt to make money ( Point Of Entry, Turbo ) or to try and gain some kind of credibility ( Nostradamus ). If you look at Priests successful albums they are all pretty much straight ahead metal. However Priest have sabotaged their own momentum in some cases. To go from Stained Class, HBFL, Unleashed and BS to Point Of Entry is like shooting yourself in the foot. Grinder to You Say Yes, Steeler to Don't Go, thats going to halt your momentum. It's basically a band saying we've got the Metal audience, now lets try and grab the mainstream audience. After that failed experiment they went back to what they are good at, metal. SFV and DOTF got their momentum back but then they released Turbo, which was really successful but again alienated all their old fans. Back to the drawing board. Finally Painkiller, their master piece and Rob Halford leaves the band because he wants to do what Pantera are doing because they are making the money. The band stutter along for a decade before Halford comes back after what you would call a relatively unsuccessful period as a "solo" artist and Priest release AOR, a solid metal album. Everyone is happy and then they unleash Nostradamus and completely wreck it again. "We're about getting out of our comfort zone and stretching the boundaries blah blah blah" is the excuse. But really the bottom line is they are exceptional yet inconsistant and they have really no-one else to blame for the fact that they are not up there with Maiden. You have to give Maiden one thing, their consistancy is their strength,they don't try to be something they're not. Even when Blaze Bailey was in the band they still put out albums you could immediately identify as Maiden. Look at this website for example, You've got two of the worlds biggest Priest fans, Hellrider and JD, and Hellriders going "I hope they are finally going to unleash a metal monster" and JDs going "I'll believe it when I see it, if I see it, I've been let down too many times before" Same reason goes for the success of AC/DC, consistancy. Funny thing is it doesn't explain Metallica, they've been the most inconsistant of all but are bigger than they've ever been. They are always out there playing though and always put on a great show. (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, October 09, 2010 10:56:14 AM)
Becks wrote:
Maiden has put out their fair share of shit as well though, pretty much everything since Powerslave has been, as a whole, meh.
jimmyjames wrote:
I think maybe the fact that Maiden give their fans what they want whilst Priest always fuck around with crap like Point Of Entry, Turbo, The whole Ripper era and Nostradamus might have something to do with the fact that they are not in that top echelon of earners. So rather than poor marketing I would say it's a tendency to put out shit that has hampered them.
ron h wrote:
I think their Marketing has always been key to their success, in the same fashion that poor Marketing can drag a band down (ie Priest)
Head banger wrote:
maybe. they are definatly well marketed.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I really think what the final ingridiant is that makes Iron Maiden as popular as they are in today's scene,is "Eddie". The artwork says a lot and is very attractive,Eddie is not why they are as popular but with him it just works together. I really do not like the latest Eddie on the Final Frontier album,I know they wanted to change him up a bit but I think Harris let the artist go too far this time.
I really would like to see the next LP with the old Eddie back,even if they don't write another Piece Of Mind type of an album,it still would be cool to see the old school Eddie. I really dig the album cover on A Matter Of Life And Death.
Head banger wrote:
your probably right, but just touring doesnt explain it, nor do the albums. if those make sense, explain kiss
jimmyjames wrote:
Along with Metallica and AC/DC, Maiden are the biggest band in hardrock / heavy metal. Priest is more of a cult band than Maiden. Final Frontier sold 800 000 copies in it's first week of release. Some might say that it's just bandwagon jumpers buying the album but I doubt it. People just like Maiden. The reason they are so popular is because they get out there and play for their fans rather than just playing the US. Maiden have toured all sorts of crazy places in recent years like India, South America and even NZ. I read an interview with them recently and one of the things that keeps them going is playing in countries they haven't been to before. Some complain that the albums aren't as good these days which is probably true but as a band they are at a point where they can experiment and do what they want and at least they are bringing out new stuff as often as they can between the true world tours that they do.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
*sniff sniff* That is NOT Eddie! That is an imposter! It ate the real Eddie up!
I always thought a "cult following" is associated with tiny groups of people are huge fans of a movie, band, etc. If Iron Maiden has a "cult following", then it sure is a huge one.
Jeanine wrote:
Hey Vail, you know I love ya, but that Alien thing in which you speak is Eddie . Being one who loves both bands I will say this, it is my firm belief that Iron Maiden has a cult following much like Deadheads (Grateful Dead) or even the Dave Matthews Band.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
It was that bad when I was in Berlin in August. The day the album was released I walked into a bookstore to look for a map of the city. Then I stumbled upon all the magazines that you mentioned: Metal Hammer, Metal Shock, Rock Hard... all with Iron Maiden and that alien thing on the cover. A little too much, like you said. AND there was an Iron Maiden poster up on one of the display windows. I bought and listened to the album the next day and did not like it at all. Then later that month there were IM posters up all over one corner of a street near my apartment, so seeing that alien thing up everyday while walking to the U-Bahn was irritating.
metallo wrote:
Maybe you're right, it's too much, but I can assure you that to hear many people talking about Heavy Metal and talking only about Iron Miden (itìs not a mistake), to go to the newspaper kiosk and see Metal Hammer with Iron Maiden in the cover, then Metal Shock with Iron Maiden in the cover, the Hard & Heavy (or something like this) with Iron MAiden poster, and all in the same period is too much. Yes maybe it's for the new album but it happens also in other occasions. When I saw on TV to present all Iron MAiden CD to be sold on newspaepr kiosks, was the maximum. Now if you go on ?Beyon the realms of priest' on the topics relevant best live album, there is a page dedicated to Rock in Rio !!! It's too much. KILL 'EM ALL !!!!
Brian_Evans wrote:
Lady Gaga??? Now thats a low blow. Shame on you. ha!
metallo wrote:
So this is just to demonstrate that they are Pop metal band. Pure shit. They don't need it. They could be part of the music history without all of this stupid merchandising. next tour with Lady Gaga as supporting band ?
paorcamp wrote:
HA!...that happens everywhere...here in Costa Rica nobody mentioned maiden before they first came on 2008, only real metalheads knew who Iron Maiden was, and after that concert you would find people wearing black maiden shirts, all kind of idiot would wear one, and if you ask what they listen to they would answer metal...which bands?? maiden...-any other??? eh...no...so!?!?!?! even those who wear big chains and caps and craps like 50 cents' stuff would wear an Iron maiden shirt...thats offensive and of course shows how common it is to find any sort of item even in a "newspaper kiosk" as you mention...now nobody who dares to consider himself a metalhead pays attention to maiden around here...I don't blame them...I don't blame you... (Quoting Message by metallo from Monday, September 20, 2010 12:58:31 PM)
metallo wrote:
You're right, I don't want to say that bruce is a bad singer, not at all, I just want to say that I don't like his way of singing also knowing he is a great singer and Iron Maiden is a great Metal group, in general, but is something stronger than me, I never went to see a concert of them, and the last album I bought was killers. I really don't like 'the number of the beast'. Maybe something good in Powerslave. It's only my opinion, but I grew up, here in Italy, where you can see 100 metal kids, and 95 have maidens t-shirt, three have Metallica, and two carcass, then me with Judas Priest. Here in Italy if some one talk about HM, only one group is mentioned: Iron Maiden. People which usually do not listen metal, knows Maidens. If you go to a newspaper kiosk you can buy all Maiden's discography. STOP !!!! Maybe it's not for them, but for the other. All of them made me hate Iron Maiden.
Too Pop fo me
Brian_Evans wrote:
Seems kind of weird that you don't like Maiden after Bruce joined. I just don't see them where their at now with Paul Di'Anno. It's hard to imagine Paul singing songs from Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, ect. Bruce can sing the Paul Di'Anno era but I can't see Paul singing much from The Bruce Dickinson era.
metallo wrote:
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
Edited at: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:01:58 PM
Edited at: Saturday, October 09, 2010 3:17:49 PM Edited at: Saturday, October 09, 2010 3:20:08 PM
[jimmyjames] Saturday, October 09, 2010 3:14:04 PM
Some of it's not as good but Maiden have never completely abandoned their style in an attempt to make money ( Point Of Entry, Turbo ) or to try and gain some kind of credibility ( Nostradamus ). If you look at Priests successful albums they are all pretty much straight ahead metal. However Priest have sabotaged their own momentum in some cases. To go from Stained Class, HBFL, Unleashed and BS to Point Of Entry is like shooting yourself in the foot. Grinder to You Say Yes, Steeler to Don't Go, thats going to halt your momentum. It's basically a band saying we've got the Metal audience, now lets try and grab the mainstream audience. After that failed experiment they went back to what they are good at, metal. SFV and DOTF got their momentum back but then they released Turbo, which was really successful but again alienated all their old fans. Back to the drawing board. Finally Painkiller, their master piece and Rob Halford leaves the band because he wants to do what Pantera are doing because they are making the money. The band stutter along for a decade before Halford comes back after what you would call a relatively unsuccessful period as a "solo" artist and Priest release AOR, a solid metal album. Everyone is happy and then they unleash Nostradamus and completely wreck it again. "We're about getting out of our comfort zone and stretching the boundaries blah blah blah" is the excuse. But really the bottom line is they are exceptional yet inconsistant and they have really no-one else to blame for the fact that they are not up there with Maiden. You have to give Maiden one thing, their consistancy is their strength,they don't try to be something they're not. Even when Blaze Bailey was in the band they still put out albums you could immediately identify as Maiden. Look at this website for example, You've got two of the worlds biggest Priest fans, Hellrider and JD, and Hellriders going "I hope they are finally going to unleash a metal monster" and JDs going "I'll believe it when I see it, if I see it, I've been let down too many times before" Same reason goes for the success of AC/DC, consistancy. Funny thing is it doesn't explain Metallica, they've been the most inconsistant of all but are bigger than they've ever been. They are always out there playing though and always put on a great show. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, October 09, 2010 10:56:14 AM)
Becks wrote:
Maiden has put out their fair share of shit as well though, pretty much everything since Powerslave has been, as a whole, meh.
jimmyjames wrote:
I think maybe the fact that Maiden give their fans what they want whilst Priest always fuck around with crap like Point Of Entry, Turbo, The whole Ripper era and Nostradamus might have something to do with the fact that they are not in that top echelon of earners. So rather than poor marketing I would say it's a tendency to put out shit that has hampered them.
ron h wrote:
I think their Marketing has always been key to their success, in the same fashion that poor Marketing can drag a band down (ie Priest)
Head banger wrote:
maybe. they are definatly well marketed.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I really think what the final ingridiant is that makes Iron Maiden as popular as they are in today's scene,is "Eddie". The artwork says a lot and is very attractive,Eddie is not why they are as popular but with him it just works together. I really do not like the latest Eddie on the Final Frontier album,I know they wanted to change him up a bit but I think Harris let the artist go too far this time.
I really would like to see the next LP with the old Eddie back,even if they don't write another Piece Of Mind type of an album,it still would be cool to see the old school Eddie. I really dig the album cover on A Matter Of Life And Death.
Head banger wrote:
your probably right, but just touring doesnt explain it, nor do the albums. if those make sense, explain kiss
jimmyjames wrote:
Along with Metallica and AC/DC, Maiden are the biggest band in hardrock / heavy metal. Priest is more of a cult band than Maiden. Final Frontier sold 800 000 copies in it's first week of release. Some might say that it's just bandwagon jumpers buying the album but I doubt it. People just like Maiden. The reason they are so popular is because they get out there and play for their fans rather than just playing the US. Maiden have toured all sorts of crazy places in recent years like India, South America and even NZ. I read an interview with them recently and one of the things that keeps them going is playing in countries they haven't been to before. Some complain that the albums aren't as good these days which is probably true but as a band they are at a point where they can experiment and do what they want and at least they are bringing out new stuff as often as they can between the true world tours that they do.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
*sniff sniff* That is NOT Eddie! That is an imposter! It ate the real Eddie up!
I always thought a "cult following" is associated with tiny groups of people are huge fans of a movie, band, etc. If Iron Maiden has a "cult following", then it sure is a huge one.
Jeanine wrote:
Hey Vail, you know I love ya, but that Alien thing in which you speak is Eddie . Being one who loves both bands I will say this, it is my firm belief that Iron Maiden has a cult following much like Deadheads (Grateful Dead) or even the Dave Matthews Band.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
It was that bad when I was in Berlin in August. The day the album was released I walked into a bookstore to look for a map of the city. Then I stumbled upon all the magazines that you mentioned: Metal Hammer, Metal Shock, Rock Hard... all with Iron Maiden and that alien thing on the cover. A little too much, like you said. AND there was an Iron Maiden poster up on one of the display windows. I bought and listened to the album the next day and did not like it at all. Then later that month there were IM posters up all over one corner of a street near my apartment, so seeing that alien thing up everyday while walking to the U-Bahn was irritating.
metallo wrote:
Maybe you're right, it's too much, but I can assure you that to hear many people talking about Heavy Metal and talking only about Iron Miden (itìs not a mistake), to go to the newspaper kiosk and see Metal Hammer with Iron Maiden in the cover, then Metal Shock with Iron Maiden in the cover, the Hard & Heavy (or something like this) with Iron MAiden poster, and all in the same period is too much. Yes maybe it's for the new album but it happens also in other occasions. When I saw on TV to present all Iron MAiden CD to be sold on newspaepr kiosks, was the maximum. Now if you go on ?Beyon the realms of priest' on the topics relevant best live album, there is a page dedicated to Rock in Rio !!! It's too much. KILL 'EM ALL !!!!
Brian_Evans wrote:
Lady Gaga??? Now thats a low blow. Shame on you. ha!
metallo wrote:
So this is just to demonstrate that they are Pop metal band. Pure shit. They don't need it. They could be part of the music history without all of this stupid merchandising. next tour with Lady Gaga as supporting band ?
paorcamp wrote:
HA!...that happens everywhere...here in Costa Rica nobody mentioned maiden before they first came on 2008, only real metalheads knew who Iron Maiden was, and after that concert you would find people wearing black maiden shirts, all kind of idiot would wear one, and if you ask what they listen to they would answer metal...which bands?? maiden...-any other??? eh...no...so!?!?!?! even those who wear big chains and caps and craps like 50 cents' stuff would wear an Iron maiden shirt...thats offensive and of course shows how common it is to find any sort of item even in a "newspaper kiosk" as you mention...now nobody who dares to consider himself a metalhead pays attention to maiden around here...I don't blame them...I don't blame you... (Quoting Message by metallo from Monday, September 20, 2010 12:58:31 PM)
metallo wrote:
You're right, I don't want to say that bruce is a bad singer, not at all, I just want to say that I don't like his way of singing also knowing he is a great singer and Iron Maiden is a great Metal group, in general, but is something stronger than me, I never went to see a concert of them, and the last album I bought was killers. I really don't like 'the number of the beast'. Maybe something good in Powerslave. It's only my opinion, but I grew up, here in Italy, where you can see 100 metal kids, and 95 have maidens t-shirt, three have Metallica, and two carcass, then me with Judas Priest. Here in Italy if some one talk about HM, only one group is mentioned: Iron Maiden. People which usually do not listen metal, knows Maidens. If you go to a newspaper kiosk you can buy all Maiden's discography. STOP !!!! Maybe it's not for them, but for the other. All of them made me hate Iron Maiden.
Too Pop fo me
Brian_Evans wrote:
Seems kind of weird that you don't like Maiden after Bruce joined. I just don't see them where their at now with Paul Di'Anno. It's hard to imagine Paul singing songs from Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, ect. Bruce can sing the Paul Di'Anno era but I can't see Paul singing much from The Bruce Dickinson era.
metallo wrote:
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
Edited at: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:01:58 PM
Edited at: Saturday, October 09, 2010 3:17:49 PM Edited at: Saturday, October 09, 2010 3:20:08 PM
[Becks] Saturday, October 09, 2010 10:56:14 AM
Maiden has put out their fair share of shit as well though, pretty much everything since Powerslave has been, as a whole, meh. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, October 09, 2010 7:22:47 AM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I think maybe the fact that Maiden give their fans what they want whilst Priest always fuck around with crap like Point Of Entry, Turbo, The whole Ripper era and Nostradamus might have something to do with the fact that they are not in that top echelon of earners. So rather than poor marketing I would say it's a tendency to put out shit that has hampered them.
ron h wrote:
I think their Marketing has always been key to their success, in the same fashion that poor Marketing can drag a band down (ie Priest)
Head banger wrote:
maybe. they are definatly well marketed.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I really think what the final ingridiant is that makes Iron Maiden as popular as they are in today's scene,is "Eddie". The artwork says a lot and is very attractive,Eddie is not why they are as popular but with him it just works together. I really do not like the latest Eddie on the Final Frontier album,I know they wanted to change him up a bit but I think Harris let the artist go too far this time.
I really would like to see the next LP with the old Eddie back,even if they don't write another Piece Of Mind type of an album,it still would be cool to see the old school Eddie. I really dig the album cover on A Matter Of Life And Death.
Head banger wrote:
your probably right, but just touring doesnt explain it, nor do the albums. if those make sense, explain kiss
jimmyjames wrote:
Along with Metallica and AC/DC, Maiden are the biggest band in hardrock / heavy metal. Priest is more of a cult band than Maiden. Final Frontier sold 800 000 copies in it's first week of release. Some might say that it's just bandwagon jumpers buying the album but I doubt it. People just like Maiden. The reason they are so popular is because they get out there and play for their fans rather than just playing the US. Maiden have toured all sorts of crazy places in recent years like India, South America and even NZ. I read an interview with them recently and one of the things that keeps them going is playing in countries they haven't been to before. Some complain that the albums aren't as good these days which is probably true but as a band they are at a point where they can experiment and do what they want and at least they are bringing out new stuff as often as they can between the true world tours that they do.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
*sniff sniff* That is NOT Eddie! That is an imposter! It ate the real Eddie up!
I always thought a "cult following" is associated with tiny groups of people are huge fans of a movie, band, etc. If Iron Maiden has a "cult following", then it sure is a huge one.
Jeanine wrote:
Hey Vail, you know I love ya, but that Alien thing in which you speak is Eddie . Being one who loves both bands I will say this, it is my firm belief that Iron Maiden has a cult following much like Deadheads (Grateful Dead) or even the Dave Matthews Band.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
It was that bad when I was in Berlin in August. The day the album was released I walked into a bookstore to look for a map of the city. Then I stumbled upon all the magazines that you mentioned: Metal Hammer, Metal Shock, Rock Hard... all with Iron Maiden and that alien thing on the cover. A little too much, like you said. AND there was an Iron Maiden poster up on one of the display windows. I bought and listened to the album the next day and did not like it at all. Then later that month there were IM posters up all over one corner of a street near my apartment, so seeing that alien thing up everyday while walking to the U-Bahn was irritating.
metallo wrote:
Maybe you're right, it's too much, but I can assure you that to hear many people talking about Heavy Metal and talking only about Iron Miden (itìs not a mistake), to go to the newspaper kiosk and see Metal Hammer with Iron Maiden in the cover, then Metal Shock with Iron Maiden in the cover, the Hard & Heavy (or something like this) with Iron MAiden poster, and all in the same period is too much. Yes maybe it's for the new album but it happens also in other occasions. When I saw on TV to present all Iron MAiden CD to be sold on newspaepr kiosks, was the maximum. Now if you go on ?Beyon the realms of priest' on the topics relevant best live album, there is a page dedicated to Rock in Rio !!! It's too much. KILL 'EM ALL !!!!
Brian_Evans wrote:
Lady Gaga??? Now thats a low blow. Shame on you. ha!
metallo wrote:
So this is just to demonstrate that they are Pop metal band. Pure shit. They don't need it. They could be part of the music history without all of this stupid merchandising. next tour with Lady Gaga as supporting band ?
paorcamp wrote:
HA!...that happens everywhere...here in Costa Rica nobody mentioned maiden before they first came on 2008, only real metalheads knew who Iron Maiden was, and after that concert you would find people wearing black maiden shirts, all kind of idiot would wear one, and if you ask what they listen to they would answer metal...which bands?? maiden...-any other??? eh...no...so!?!?!?! even those who wear big chains and caps and craps like 50 cents' stuff would wear an Iron maiden shirt...thats offensive and of course shows how common it is to find any sort of item even in a "newspaper kiosk" as you mention...now nobody who dares to consider himself a metalhead pays attention to maiden around here...I don't blame them...I don't blame you... (Quoting Message by metallo from Monday, September 20, 2010 12:58:31 PM)
metallo wrote:
You're right, I don't want to say that bruce is a bad singer, not at all, I just want to say that I don't like his way of singing also knowing he is a great singer and Iron Maiden is a great Metal group, in general, but is something stronger than me, I never went to see a concert of them, and the last album I bought was killers. I really don't like 'the number of the beast'. Maybe something good in Powerslave. It's only my opinion, but I grew up, here in Italy, where you can see 100 metal kids, and 95 have maidens t-shirt, three have Metallica, and two carcass, then me with Judas Priest. Here in Italy if some one talk about HM, only one group is mentioned: Iron Maiden. People which usually do not listen metal, knows Maidens. If you go to a newspaper kiosk you can buy all Maiden's discography. STOP !!!! Maybe it's not for them, but for the other. All of them made me hate Iron Maiden.
Too Pop fo me
Brian_Evans wrote:
Seems kind of weird that you don't like Maiden after Bruce joined. I just don't see them where their at now with Paul Di'Anno. It's hard to imagine Paul singing songs from Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, ect. Bruce can sing the Paul Di'Anno era but I can't see Paul singing much from The Bruce Dickinson era.
metallo wrote:
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
Edited at: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:01:58 PM
[jimmyjames] Saturday, October 09, 2010 7:22:47 AM
I think maybe the fact that Maiden give their fans what they want whilst Priest always fuck around with crap like Point Of Entry, Turbo, The whole Ripper era and Nostradamus might have something to do with the fact that they are not in that top echelon of earners. So rather than poor marketing I would say it's a tendency to put out shit that has hampered them. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ron h from Friday, October 08, 2010 11:42:03 PM)
ron h wrote:
I think their Marketing has always been key to their success, in the same fashion that poor Marketing can drag a band down (ie Priest)
Head banger wrote:
maybe. they are definatly well marketed.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I really think what the final ingridiant is that makes Iron Maiden as popular as they are in today's scene,is "Eddie". The artwork says a lot and is very attractive,Eddie is not why they are as popular but with him it just works together. I really do not like the latest Eddie on the Final Frontier album,I know they wanted to change him up a bit but I think Harris let the artist go too far this time.
I really would like to see the next LP with the old Eddie back,even if they don't write another Piece Of Mind type of an album,it still would be cool to see the old school Eddie. I really dig the album cover on A Matter Of Life And Death.
Head banger wrote:
your probably right, but just touring doesnt explain it, nor do the albums. if those make sense, explain kiss
jimmyjames wrote:
Along with Metallica and AC/DC, Maiden are the biggest band in hardrock / heavy metal. Priest is more of a cult band than Maiden. Final Frontier sold 800 000 copies in it's first week of release. Some might say that it's just bandwagon jumpers buying the album but I doubt it. People just like Maiden. The reason they are so popular is because they get out there and play for their fans rather than just playing the US. Maiden have toured all sorts of crazy places in recent years like India, South America and even NZ. I read an interview with them recently and one of the things that keeps them going is playing in countries they haven't been to before. Some complain that the albums aren't as good these days which is probably true but as a band they are at a point where they can experiment and do what they want and at least they are bringing out new stuff as often as they can between the true world tours that they do.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
*sniff sniff* That is NOT Eddie! That is an imposter! It ate the real Eddie up!
I always thought a "cult following" is associated with tiny groups of people are huge fans of a movie, band, etc. If Iron Maiden has a "cult following", then it sure is a huge one.
Jeanine wrote:
Hey Vail, you know I love ya, but that Alien thing in which you speak is Eddie . Being one who loves both bands I will say this, it is my firm belief that Iron Maiden has a cult following much like Deadheads (Grateful Dead) or even the Dave Matthews Band.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
It was that bad when I was in Berlin in August. The day the album was released I walked into a bookstore to look for a map of the city. Then I stumbled upon all the magazines that you mentioned: Metal Hammer, Metal Shock, Rock Hard... all with Iron Maiden and that alien thing on the cover. A little too much, like you said. AND there was an Iron Maiden poster up on one of the display windows. I bought and listened to the album the next day and did not like it at all. Then later that month there were IM posters up all over one corner of a street near my apartment, so seeing that alien thing up everyday while walking to the U-Bahn was irritating.
metallo wrote:
Maybe you're right, it's too much, but I can assure you that to hear many people talking about Heavy Metal and talking only about Iron Miden (itìs not a mistake), to go to the newspaper kiosk and see Metal Hammer with Iron Maiden in the cover, then Metal Shock with Iron Maiden in the cover, the Hard & Heavy (or something like this) with Iron MAiden poster, and all in the same period is too much. Yes maybe it's for the new album but it happens also in other occasions. When I saw on TV to present all Iron MAiden CD to be sold on newspaepr kiosks, was the maximum. Now if you go on ?Beyon the realms of priest' on the topics relevant best live album, there is a page dedicated to Rock in Rio !!! It's too much. KILL 'EM ALL !!!!
Brian_Evans wrote:
Lady Gaga??? Now thats a low blow. Shame on you. ha!
metallo wrote:
So this is just to demonstrate that they are Pop metal band. Pure shit. They don't need it. They could be part of the music history without all of this stupid merchandising. next tour with Lady Gaga as supporting band ?
paorcamp wrote:
HA!...that happens everywhere...here in Costa Rica nobody mentioned maiden before they first came on 2008, only real metalheads knew who Iron Maiden was, and after that concert you would find people wearing black maiden shirts, all kind of idiot would wear one, and if you ask what they listen to they would answer metal...which bands?? maiden...-any other??? eh...no...so!?!?!?! even those who wear big chains and caps and craps like 50 cents' stuff would wear an Iron maiden shirt...thats offensive and of course shows how common it is to find any sort of item even in a "newspaper kiosk" as you mention...now nobody who dares to consider himself a metalhead pays attention to maiden around here...I don't blame them...I don't blame you... (Quoting Message by metallo from Monday, September 20, 2010 12:58:31 PM)
metallo wrote:
You're right, I don't want to say that bruce is a bad singer, not at all, I just want to say that I don't like his way of singing also knowing he is a great singer and Iron Maiden is a great Metal group, in general, but is something stronger than me, I never went to see a concert of them, and the last album I bought was killers. I really don't like 'the number of the beast'. Maybe something good in Powerslave. It's only my opinion, but I grew up, here in Italy, where you can see 100 metal kids, and 95 have maidens t-shirt, three have Metallica, and two carcass, then me with Judas Priest. Here in Italy if some one talk about HM, only one group is mentioned: Iron Maiden. People which usually do not listen metal, knows Maidens. If you go to a newspaper kiosk you can buy all Maiden's discography. STOP !!!! Maybe it's not for them, but for the other. All of them made me hate Iron Maiden.
Too Pop fo me
Brian_Evans wrote:
Seems kind of weird that you don't like Maiden after Bruce joined. I just don't see them where their at now with Paul Di'Anno. It's hard to imagine Paul singing songs from Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, ect. Bruce can sing the Paul Di'Anno era but I can't see Paul singing much from The Bruce Dickinson era.
metallo wrote:
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
Edited at: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:01:58 PM
[ron h] Friday, October 08, 2010 11:42:03 PM
I think their Marketing has always been key to their success, in the same fashion that poor Marketing can drag a band down (ie Priest) [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Friday, October 08, 2010 5:39:22 AM)
Head banger wrote:
maybe. they are definatly well marketed.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I really think what the final ingridiant is that makes Iron Maiden as popular as they are in today's scene,is "Eddie". The artwork says a lot and is very attractive,Eddie is not why they are as popular but with him it just works together. I really do not like the latest Eddie on the Final Frontier album,I know they wanted to change him up a bit but I think Harris let the artist go too far this time.
I really would like to see the next LP with the old Eddie back,even if they don't write another Piece Of Mind type of an album,it still would be cool to see the old school Eddie. I really dig the album cover on A Matter Of Life And Death.
Head banger wrote:
your probably right, but just touring doesnt explain it, nor do the albums. if those make sense, explain kiss
jimmyjames wrote:
Along with Metallica and AC/DC, Maiden are the biggest band in hardrock / heavy metal. Priest is more of a cult band than Maiden. Final Frontier sold 800 000 copies in it's first week of release. Some might say that it's just bandwagon jumpers buying the album but I doubt it. People just like Maiden. The reason they are so popular is because they get out there and play for their fans rather than just playing the US. Maiden have toured all sorts of crazy places in recent years like India, South America and even NZ. I read an interview with them recently and one of the things that keeps them going is playing in countries they haven't been to before. Some complain that the albums aren't as good these days which is probably true but as a band they are at a point where they can experiment and do what they want and at least they are bringing out new stuff as often as they can between the true world tours that they do.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
*sniff sniff* That is NOT Eddie! That is an imposter! It ate the real Eddie up!
I always thought a "cult following" is associated with tiny groups of people are huge fans of a movie, band, etc. If Iron Maiden has a "cult following", then it sure is a huge one.
Jeanine wrote:
Hey Vail, you know I love ya, but that Alien thing in which you speak is Eddie . Being one who loves both bands I will say this, it is my firm belief that Iron Maiden has a cult following much like Deadheads (Grateful Dead) or even the Dave Matthews Band.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
It was that bad when I was in Berlin in August. The day the album was released I walked into a bookstore to look for a map of the city. Then I stumbled upon all the magazines that you mentioned: Metal Hammer, Metal Shock, Rock Hard... all with Iron Maiden and that alien thing on the cover. A little too much, like you said. AND there was an Iron Maiden poster up on one of the display windows. I bought and listened to the album the next day and did not like it at all. Then later that month there were IM posters up all over one corner of a street near my apartment, so seeing that alien thing up everyday while walking to the U-Bahn was irritating.
metallo wrote:
Maybe you're right, it's too much, but I can assure you that to hear many people talking about Heavy Metal and talking only about Iron Miden (itìs not a mistake), to go to the newspaper kiosk and see Metal Hammer with Iron Maiden in the cover, then Metal Shock with Iron Maiden in the cover, the Hard & Heavy (or something like this) with Iron MAiden poster, and all in the same period is too much. Yes maybe it's for the new album but it happens also in other occasions. When I saw on TV to present all Iron MAiden CD to be sold on newspaepr kiosks, was the maximum. Now if you go on ?Beyon the realms of priest' on the topics relevant best live album, there is a page dedicated to Rock in Rio !!! It's too much. KILL 'EM ALL !!!!
Brian_Evans wrote:
Lady Gaga??? Now thats a low blow. Shame on you. ha!
metallo wrote:
So this is just to demonstrate that they are Pop metal band. Pure shit. They don't need it. They could be part of the music history without all of this stupid merchandising. next tour with Lady Gaga as supporting band ?
paorcamp wrote:
HA!...that happens everywhere...here in Costa Rica nobody mentioned maiden before they first came on 2008, only real metalheads knew who Iron Maiden was, and after that concert you would find people wearing black maiden shirts, all kind of idiot would wear one, and if you ask what they listen to they would answer metal...which bands?? maiden...-any other??? eh...no...so!?!?!?! even those who wear big chains and caps and craps like 50 cents' stuff would wear an Iron maiden shirt...thats offensive and of course shows how common it is to find any sort of item even in a "newspaper kiosk" as you mention...now nobody who dares to consider himself a metalhead pays attention to maiden around here...I don't blame them...I don't blame you... (Quoting Message by metallo from Monday, September 20, 2010 12:58:31 PM)
metallo wrote:
You're right, I don't want to say that bruce is a bad singer, not at all, I just want to say that I don't like his way of singing also knowing he is a great singer and Iron Maiden is a great Metal group, in general, but is something stronger than me, I never went to see a concert of them, and the last album I bought was killers. I really don't like 'the number of the beast'. Maybe something good in Powerslave. It's only my opinion, but I grew up, here in Italy, where you can see 100 metal kids, and 95 have maidens t-shirt, three have Metallica, and two carcass, then me with Judas Priest. Here in Italy if some one talk about HM, only one group is mentioned: Iron Maiden. People which usually do not listen metal, knows Maidens. If you go to a newspaper kiosk you can buy all Maiden's discography. STOP !!!! Maybe it's not for them, but for the other. All of them made me hate Iron Maiden.
Too Pop fo me
Brian_Evans wrote:
Seems kind of weird that you don't like Maiden after Bruce joined. I just don't see them where their at now with Paul Di'Anno. It's hard to imagine Paul singing songs from Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, ect. Bruce can sing the Paul Di'Anno era but I can't see Paul singing much from The Bruce Dickinson era.
metallo wrote:
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
Edited at: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:01:58 PM
[jimmyjames] Friday, October 08, 2010 2:28:53 PM
Yeah you're right there. Maiden have always had the coolest T-shirts, album artwork and merchandise. I'd love to have a dollar for every shirt Maiden have sold over the years. I agree that the new Eddie is not as good as the old. The older one seemed a little more menacing and cool. The new one is quite cartoonish and a Predator ripoff. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, October 08, 2010 1:29:47 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I really think what the final ingridiant is that makes Iron Maiden as popular as they are in today's scene,is "Eddie". The artwork says a lot and is very attractive,Eddie is not why they are as popular but with him it just works together. I really do not like the latest Eddie on the Final Frontier album,I know they wanted to change him up a bit but I think Harris let the artist go too far this time.
I really would like to see the next LP with the old Eddie back,even if they don't write another Piece Of Mind type of an album,it still would be cool to see the old school Eddie. I really dig the album cover on A Matter Of Life And Death.
Head banger wrote:
your probably right, but just touring doesnt explain it, nor do the albums. if those make sense, explain kiss
jimmyjames wrote:
Along with Metallica and AC/DC, Maiden are the biggest band in hardrock / heavy metal. Priest is more of a cult band than Maiden. Final Frontier sold 800 000 copies in it's first week of release. Some might say that it's just bandwagon jumpers buying the album but I doubt it. People just like Maiden. The reason they are so popular is because they get out there and play for their fans rather than just playing the US. Maiden have toured all sorts of crazy places in recent years like India, South America and even NZ. I read an interview with them recently and one of the things that keeps them going is playing in countries they haven't been to before. Some complain that the albums aren't as good these days which is probably true but as a band they are at a point where they can experiment and do what they want and at least they are bringing out new stuff as often as they can between the true world tours that they do.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
*sniff sniff* That is NOT Eddie! That is an imposter! It ate the real Eddie up!
I always thought a "cult following" is associated with tiny groups of people are huge fans of a movie, band, etc. If Iron Maiden has a "cult following", then it sure is a huge one.
Jeanine wrote:
Hey Vail, you know I love ya, but that Alien thing in which you speak is Eddie . Being one who loves both bands I will say this, it is my firm belief that Iron Maiden has a cult following much like Deadheads (Grateful Dead) or even the Dave Matthews Band.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
It was that bad when I was in Berlin in August. The day the album was released I walked into a bookstore to look for a map of the city. Then I stumbled upon all the magazines that you mentioned: Metal Hammer, Metal Shock, Rock Hard... all with Iron Maiden and that alien thing on the cover. A little too much, like you said. AND there was an Iron Maiden poster up on one of the display windows. I bought and listened to the album the next day and did not like it at all. Then later that month there were IM posters up all over one corner of a street near my apartment, so seeing that alien thing up everyday while walking to the U-Bahn was irritating.
metallo wrote:
Maybe you're right, it's too much, but I can assure you that to hear many people talking about Heavy Metal and talking only about Iron Miden (itìs not a mistake), to go to the newspaper kiosk and see Metal Hammer with Iron Maiden in the cover, then Metal Shock with Iron Maiden in the cover, the Hard & Heavy (or something like this) with Iron MAiden poster, and all in the same period is too much. Yes maybe it's for the new album but it happens also in other occasions. When I saw on TV to present all Iron MAiden CD to be sold on newspaepr kiosks, was the maximum. Now if you go on ?Beyon the realms of priest' on the topics relevant best live album, there is a page dedicated to Rock in Rio !!! It's too much. KILL 'EM ALL !!!!
Brian_Evans wrote:
Lady Gaga??? Now thats a low blow. Shame on you. ha!
metallo wrote:
So this is just to demonstrate that they are Pop metal band. Pure shit. They don't need it. They could be part of the music history without all of this stupid merchandising. next tour with Lady Gaga as supporting band ?
paorcamp wrote:
HA!...that happens everywhere...here in Costa Rica nobody mentioned maiden before they first came on 2008, only real metalheads knew who Iron Maiden was, and after that concert you would find people wearing black maiden shirts, all kind of idiot would wear one, and if you ask what they listen to they would answer metal...which bands?? maiden...-any other??? eh...no...so!?!?!?! even those who wear big chains and caps and craps like 50 cents' stuff would wear an Iron maiden shirt...thats offensive and of course shows how common it is to find any sort of item even in a "newspaper kiosk" as you mention...now nobody who dares to consider himself a metalhead pays attention to maiden around here...I don't blame them...I don't blame you... (Quoting Message by metallo from Monday, September 20, 2010 12:58:31 PM)
metallo wrote:
You're right, I don't want to say that bruce is a bad singer, not at all, I just want to say that I don't like his way of singing also knowing he is a great singer and Iron Maiden is a great Metal group, in general, but is something stronger than me, I never went to see a concert of them, and the last album I bought was killers. I really don't like 'the number of the beast'. Maybe something good in Powerslave. It's only my opinion, but I grew up, here in Italy, where you can see 100 metal kids, and 95 have maidens t-shirt, three have Metallica, and two carcass, then me with Judas Priest. Here in Italy if some one talk about HM, only one group is mentioned: Iron Maiden. People which usually do not listen metal, knows Maidens. If you go to a newspaper kiosk you can buy all Maiden's discography. STOP !!!! Maybe it's not for them, but for the other. All of them made me hate Iron Maiden.
Too Pop fo me
Brian_Evans wrote:
Seems kind of weird that you don't like Maiden after Bruce joined. I just don't see them where their at now with Paul Di'Anno. It's hard to imagine Paul singing songs from Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, ect. Bruce can sing the Paul Di'Anno era but I can't see Paul singing much from The Bruce Dickinson era.
metallo wrote:
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
Edited at: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:01:58 PM
[Head banger] Friday, October 08, 2010 5:39:22 AM
maybe. they are definatly well marketed. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, October 08, 2010 1:29:47 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I really think what the final ingridiant is that makes Iron Maiden as popular as they are in today's scene,is "Eddie". The artwork says a lot and is very attractive,Eddie is not why they are as popular but with him it just works together. I really do not like the latest Eddie on the Final Frontier album,I know they wanted to change him up a bit but I think Harris let the artist go too far this time.
I really would like to see the next LP with the old Eddie back,even if they don't write another Piece Of Mind type of an album,it still would be cool to see the old school Eddie. I really dig the album cover on A Matter Of Life And Death.
Head banger wrote:
your probably right, but just touring doesnt explain it, nor do the albums. if those make sense, explain kiss
jimmyjames wrote:
Along with Metallica and AC/DC, Maiden are the biggest band in hardrock / heavy metal. Priest is more of a cult band than Maiden. Final Frontier sold 800 000 copies in it's first week of release. Some might say that it's just bandwagon jumpers buying the album but I doubt it. People just like Maiden. The reason they are so popular is because they get out there and play for their fans rather than just playing the US. Maiden have toured all sorts of crazy places in recent years like India, South America and even NZ. I read an interview with them recently and one of the things that keeps them going is playing in countries they haven't been to before. Some complain that the albums aren't as good these days which is probably true but as a band they are at a point where they can experiment and do what they want and at least they are bringing out new stuff as often as they can between the true world tours that they do.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
*sniff sniff* That is NOT Eddie! That is an imposter! It ate the real Eddie up!
I always thought a "cult following" is associated with tiny groups of people are huge fans of a movie, band, etc. If Iron Maiden has a "cult following", then it sure is a huge one.
Jeanine wrote:
Hey Vail, you know I love ya, but that Alien thing in which you speak is Eddie . Being one who loves both bands I will say this, it is my firm belief that Iron Maiden has a cult following much like Deadheads (Grateful Dead) or even the Dave Matthews Band.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
It was that bad when I was in Berlin in August. The day the album was released I walked into a bookstore to look for a map of the city. Then I stumbled upon all the magazines that you mentioned: Metal Hammer, Metal Shock, Rock Hard... all with Iron Maiden and that alien thing on the cover. A little too much, like you said. AND there was an Iron Maiden poster up on one of the display windows. I bought and listened to the album the next day and did not like it at all. Then later that month there were IM posters up all over one corner of a street near my apartment, so seeing that alien thing up everyday while walking to the U-Bahn was irritating.
metallo wrote:
Maybe you're right, it's too much, but I can assure you that to hear many people talking about Heavy Metal and talking only about Iron Miden (itìs not a mistake), to go to the newspaper kiosk and see Metal Hammer with Iron Maiden in the cover, then Metal Shock with Iron Maiden in the cover, the Hard & Heavy (or something like this) with Iron MAiden poster, and all in the same period is too much. Yes maybe it's for the new album but it happens also in other occasions. When I saw on TV to present all Iron MAiden CD to be sold on newspaepr kiosks, was the maximum. Now if you go on ?Beyon the realms of priest' on the topics relevant best live album, there is a page dedicated to Rock in Rio !!! It's too much. KILL 'EM ALL !!!!
Brian_Evans wrote:
Lady Gaga??? Now thats a low blow. Shame on you. ha!
metallo wrote:
So this is just to demonstrate that they are Pop metal band. Pure shit. They don't need it. They could be part of the music history without all of this stupid merchandising. next tour with Lady Gaga as supporting band ?
paorcamp wrote:
HA!...that happens everywhere...here in Costa Rica nobody mentioned maiden before they first came on 2008, only real metalheads knew who Iron Maiden was, and after that concert you would find people wearing black maiden shirts, all kind of idiot would wear one, and if you ask what they listen to they would answer metal...which bands?? maiden...-any other??? eh...no...so!?!?!?! even those who wear big chains and caps and craps like 50 cents' stuff would wear an Iron maiden shirt...thats offensive and of course shows how common it is to find any sort of item even in a "newspaper kiosk" as you mention...now nobody who dares to consider himself a metalhead pays attention to maiden around here...I don't blame them...I don't blame you... (Quoting Message by metallo from Monday, September 20, 2010 12:58:31 PM)
metallo wrote:
You're right, I don't want to say that bruce is a bad singer, not at all, I just want to say that I don't like his way of singing also knowing he is a great singer and Iron Maiden is a great Metal group, in general, but is something stronger than me, I never went to see a concert of them, and the last album I bought was killers. I really don't like 'the number of the beast'. Maybe something good in Powerslave. It's only my opinion, but I grew up, here in Italy, where you can see 100 metal kids, and 95 have maidens t-shirt, three have Metallica, and two carcass, then me with Judas Priest. Here in Italy if some one talk about HM, only one group is mentioned: Iron Maiden. People which usually do not listen metal, knows Maidens. If you go to a newspaper kiosk you can buy all Maiden's discography. STOP !!!! Maybe it's not for them, but for the other. All of them made me hate Iron Maiden.
Too Pop fo me
Brian_Evans wrote:
Seems kind of weird that you don't like Maiden after Bruce joined. I just don't see them where their at now with Paul Di'Anno. It's hard to imagine Paul singing songs from Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, ect. Bruce can sing the Paul Di'Anno era but I can't see Paul singing much from The Bruce Dickinson era.
metallo wrote:
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
Edited at: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:01:58 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, October 08, 2010 1:29:47 AM
I really think what the final ingridiant is that makes Iron Maiden as popular as they are in today's scene,is "Eddie". The artwork says a lot and is very attractive,Eddie is not why they are as popular but with him it just works together. I really do not like the latest Eddie on the Final Frontier album,I know they wanted to change him up a bit but I think Harris let the artist go too far this time.
I really would like to see the next LP with the old Eddie back,even if they don't write another Piece Of Mind type of an album,it still would be cool to see the old school Eddie. I really dig the album cover on A Matter Of Life And Death. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 07, 2010 11:50:13 AM)
Head banger wrote:
your probably right, but just touring doesnt explain it, nor do the albums. if those make sense, explain kiss
jimmyjames wrote:
Along with Metallica and AC/DC, Maiden are the biggest band in hardrock / heavy metal. Priest is more of a cult band than Maiden. Final Frontier sold 800 000 copies in it's first week of release. Some might say that it's just bandwagon jumpers buying the album but I doubt it. People just like Maiden. The reason they are so popular is because they get out there and play for their fans rather than just playing the US. Maiden have toured all sorts of crazy places in recent years like India, South America and even NZ. I read an interview with them recently and one of the things that keeps them going is playing in countries they haven't been to before. Some complain that the albums aren't as good these days which is probably true but as a band they are at a point where they can experiment and do what they want and at least they are bringing out new stuff as often as they can between the true world tours that they do.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
*sniff sniff* That is NOT Eddie! That is an imposter! It ate the real Eddie up!
I always thought a "cult following" is associated with tiny groups of people are huge fans of a movie, band, etc. If Iron Maiden has a "cult following", then it sure is a huge one.
Jeanine wrote:
Hey Vail, you know I love ya, but that Alien thing in which you speak is Eddie . Being one who loves both bands I will say this, it is my firm belief that Iron Maiden has a cult following much like Deadheads (Grateful Dead) or even the Dave Matthews Band.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
It was that bad when I was in Berlin in August. The day the album was released I walked into a bookstore to look for a map of the city. Then I stumbled upon all the magazines that you mentioned: Metal Hammer, Metal Shock, Rock Hard... all with Iron Maiden and that alien thing on the cover. A little too much, like you said. AND there was an Iron Maiden poster up on one of the display windows. I bought and listened to the album the next day and did not like it at all. Then later that month there were IM posters up all over one corner of a street near my apartment, so seeing that alien thing up everyday while walking to the U-Bahn was irritating.
metallo wrote:
Maybe you're right, it's too much, but I can assure you that to hear many people talking about Heavy Metal and talking only about Iron Miden (itìs not a mistake), to go to the newspaper kiosk and see Metal Hammer with Iron Maiden in the cover, then Metal Shock with Iron Maiden in the cover, the Hard & Heavy (or something like this) with Iron MAiden poster, and all in the same period is too much. Yes maybe it's for the new album but it happens also in other occasions. When I saw on TV to present all Iron MAiden CD to be sold on newspaepr kiosks, was the maximum. Now if you go on ?Beyon the realms of priest' on the topics relevant best live album, there is a page dedicated to Rock in Rio !!! It's too much. KILL 'EM ALL !!!!
Brian_Evans wrote:
Lady Gaga??? Now thats a low blow. Shame on you. ha!
metallo wrote:
So this is just to demonstrate that they are Pop metal band. Pure shit. They don't need it. They could be part of the music history without all of this stupid merchandising. next tour with Lady Gaga as supporting band ?
paorcamp wrote:
HA!...that happens everywhere...here in Costa Rica nobody mentioned maiden before they first came on 2008, only real metalheads knew who Iron Maiden was, and after that concert you would find people wearing black maiden shirts, all kind of idiot would wear one, and if you ask what they listen to they would answer metal...which bands?? maiden...-any other??? eh...no...so!?!?!?! even those who wear big chains and caps and craps like 50 cents' stuff would wear an Iron maiden shirt...thats offensive and of course shows how common it is to find any sort of item even in a "newspaper kiosk" as you mention...now nobody who dares to consider himself a metalhead pays attention to maiden around here...I don't blame them...I don't blame you... (Quoting Message by metallo from Monday, September 20, 2010 12:58:31 PM)
metallo wrote:
You're right, I don't want to say that bruce is a bad singer, not at all, I just want to say that I don't like his way of singing also knowing he is a great singer and Iron Maiden is a great Metal group, in general, but is something stronger than me, I never went to see a concert of them, and the last album I bought was killers. I really don't like 'the number of the beast'. Maybe something good in Powerslave. It's only my opinion, but I grew up, here in Italy, where you can see 100 metal kids, and 95 have maidens t-shirt, three have Metallica, and two carcass, then me with Judas Priest. Here in Italy if some one talk about HM, only one group is mentioned: Iron Maiden. People which usually do not listen metal, knows Maidens. If you go to a newspaper kiosk you can buy all Maiden's discography. STOP !!!! Maybe it's not for them, but for the other. All of them made me hate Iron Maiden.
Too Pop fo me
Brian_Evans wrote:
Seems kind of weird that you don't like Maiden after Bruce joined. I just don't see them where their at now with Paul Di'Anno. It's hard to imagine Paul singing songs from Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, ect. Bruce can sing the Paul Di'Anno era but I can't see Paul singing much from The Bruce Dickinson era.
metallo wrote:
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
Edited at: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:01:58 PM
[Brian_Evans] Thursday, October 07, 2010 10:08:20 PM
Sweet! Top notch classic metal.
[Head banger] Thursday, October 07, 2010 11:50:13 AM
your probably right, but just touring doesnt explain it, nor do the albums. if those make sense, explain kiss [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, October 07, 2010 10:03:15 AM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Along with Metallica and AC/DC, Maiden are the biggest band in hardrock / heavy metal. Priest is more of a cult band than Maiden. Final Frontier sold 800 000 copies in it's first week of release. Some might say that it's just bandwagon jumpers buying the album but I doubt it. People just like Maiden. The reason they are so popular is because they get out there and play for their fans rather than just playing the US. Maiden have toured all sorts of crazy places in recent years like India, South America and even NZ. I read an interview with them recently and one of the things that keeps them going is playing in countries they haven't been to before. Some complain that the albums aren't as good these days which is probably true but as a band they are at a point where they can experiment and do what they want and at least they are bringing out new stuff as often as they can between the true world tours that they do.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
*sniff sniff* That is NOT Eddie! That is an imposter! It ate the real Eddie up!
I always thought a "cult following" is associated with tiny groups of people are huge fans of a movie, band, etc. If Iron Maiden has a "cult following", then it sure is a huge one.
Jeanine wrote:
Hey Vail, you know I love ya, but that Alien thing in which you speak is Eddie . Being one who loves both bands I will say this, it is my firm belief that Iron Maiden has a cult following much like Deadheads (Grateful Dead) or even the Dave Matthews Band.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
It was that bad when I was in Berlin in August. The day the album was released I walked into a bookstore to look for a map of the city. Then I stumbled upon all the magazines that you mentioned: Metal Hammer, Metal Shock, Rock Hard... all with Iron Maiden and that alien thing on the cover. A little too much, like you said. AND there was an Iron Maiden poster up on one of the display windows. I bought and listened to the album the next day and did not like it at all. Then later that month there were IM posters up all over one corner of a street near my apartment, so seeing that alien thing up everyday while walking to the U-Bahn was irritating.
metallo wrote:
Maybe you're right, it's too much, but I can assure you that to hear many people talking about Heavy Metal and talking only about Iron Miden (itìs not a mistake), to go to the newspaper kiosk and see Metal Hammer with Iron Maiden in the cover, then Metal Shock with Iron Maiden in the cover, the Hard & Heavy (or something like this) with Iron MAiden poster, and all in the same period is too much. Yes maybe it's for the new album but it happens also in other occasions. When I saw on TV to present all Iron MAiden CD to be sold on newspaepr kiosks, was the maximum. Now if you go on ?Beyon the realms of priest' on the topics relevant best live album, there is a page dedicated to Rock in Rio !!! It's too much. KILL 'EM ALL !!!!
Brian_Evans wrote:
Lady Gaga??? Now thats a low blow. Shame on you. ha!
metallo wrote:
So this is just to demonstrate that they are Pop metal band. Pure shit. They don't need it. They could be part of the music history without all of this stupid merchandising. next tour with Lady Gaga as supporting band ?
paorcamp wrote:
HA!...that happens everywhere...here in Costa Rica nobody mentioned maiden before they first came on 2008, only real metalheads knew who Iron Maiden was, and after that concert you would find people wearing black maiden shirts, all kind of idiot would wear one, and if you ask what they listen to they would answer metal...which bands?? maiden...-any other??? eh...no...so!?!?!?! even those who wear big chains and caps and craps like 50 cents' stuff would wear an Iron maiden shirt...thats offensive and of course shows how common it is to find any sort of item even in a "newspaper kiosk" as you mention...now nobody who dares to consider himself a metalhead pays attention to maiden around here...I don't blame them...I don't blame you... (Quoting Message by metallo from Monday, September 20, 2010 12:58:31 PM)
metallo wrote:
You're right, I don't want to say that bruce is a bad singer, not at all, I just want to say that I don't like his way of singing also knowing he is a great singer and Iron Maiden is a great Metal group, in general, but is something stronger than me, I never went to see a concert of them, and the last album I bought was killers. I really don't like 'the number of the beast'. Maybe something good in Powerslave. It's only my opinion, but I grew up, here in Italy, where you can see 100 metal kids, and 95 have maidens t-shirt, three have Metallica, and two carcass, then me with Judas Priest. Here in Italy if some one talk about HM, only one group is mentioned: Iron Maiden. People which usually do not listen metal, knows Maidens. If you go to a newspaper kiosk you can buy all Maiden's discography. STOP !!!! Maybe it's not for them, but for the other. All of them made me hate Iron Maiden.
Too Pop fo me
Brian_Evans wrote:
Seems kind of weird that you don't like Maiden after Bruce joined. I just don't see them where their at now with Paul Di'Anno. It's hard to imagine Paul singing songs from Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, ect. Bruce can sing the Paul Di'Anno era but I can't see Paul singing much from The Bruce Dickinson era.
metallo wrote:
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
Edited at: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:01:58 PM
[jimmyjames] Thursday, October 07, 2010 10:03:15 AM
Along with Metallica and AC/DC, Maiden are the biggest band in hardrock / heavy metal. Priest is more of a cult band than Maiden. Final Frontier sold 800 000 copies in it's first week of release. Some might say that it's just bandwagon jumpers buying the album but I doubt it. People just like Maiden. The reason they are so popular is because they get out there and play for their fans rather than just playing the US. Maiden have toured all sorts of crazy places in recent years like India, South America and even NZ. I read an interview with them recently and one of the things that keeps them going is playing in countries they haven't been to before. Some complain that the albums aren't as good these days which is probably true but as a band they are at a point where they can experiment and do what they want and at least they are bringing out new stuff as often as they can between the true world tours that they do. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:59:51 AM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
*sniff sniff* That is NOT Eddie! That is an imposter! It ate the real Eddie up!
I always thought a "cult following" is associated with tiny groups of people are huge fans of a movie, band, etc. If Iron Maiden has a "cult following", then it sure is a huge one.
Jeanine wrote:
Hey Vail, you know I love ya, but that Alien thing in which you speak is Eddie . Being one who loves both bands I will say this, it is my firm belief that Iron Maiden has a cult following much like Deadheads (Grateful Dead) or even the Dave Matthews Band.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
It was that bad when I was in Berlin in August. The day the album was released I walked into a bookstore to look for a map of the city. Then I stumbled upon all the magazines that you mentioned: Metal Hammer, Metal Shock, Rock Hard... all with Iron Maiden and that alien thing on the cover. A little too much, like you said. AND there was an Iron Maiden poster up on one of the display windows. I bought and listened to the album the next day and did not like it at all. Then later that month there were IM posters up all over one corner of a street near my apartment, so seeing that alien thing up everyday while walking to the U-Bahn was irritating.
metallo wrote:
Maybe you're right, it's too much, but I can assure you that to hear many people talking about Heavy Metal and talking only about Iron Miden (itìs not a mistake), to go to the newspaper kiosk and see Metal Hammer with Iron Maiden in the cover, then Metal Shock with Iron Maiden in the cover, the Hard & Heavy (or something like this) with Iron MAiden poster, and all in the same period is too much. Yes maybe it's for the new album but it happens also in other occasions. When I saw on TV to present all Iron MAiden CD to be sold on newspaepr kiosks, was the maximum. Now if you go on ?Beyon the realms of priest' on the topics relevant best live album, there is a page dedicated to Rock in Rio !!! It's too much. KILL 'EM ALL !!!!
Brian_Evans wrote:
Lady Gaga??? Now thats a low blow. Shame on you. ha!
metallo wrote:
So this is just to demonstrate that they are Pop metal band. Pure shit. They don't need it. They could be part of the music history without all of this stupid merchandising. next tour with Lady Gaga as supporting band ?
paorcamp wrote:
HA!...that happens everywhere...here in Costa Rica nobody mentioned maiden before they first came on 2008, only real metalheads knew who Iron Maiden was, and after that concert you would find people wearing black maiden shirts, all kind of idiot would wear one, and if you ask what they listen to they would answer metal...which bands?? maiden...-any other??? eh...no...so!?!?!?! even those who wear big chains and caps and craps like 50 cents' stuff would wear an Iron maiden shirt...thats offensive and of course shows how common it is to find any sort of item even in a "newspaper kiosk" as you mention...now nobody who dares to consider himself a metalhead pays attention to maiden around here...I don't blame them...I don't blame you... (Quoting Message by metallo from Monday, September 20, 2010 12:58:31 PM)
metallo wrote:
You're right, I don't want to say that bruce is a bad singer, not at all, I just want to say that I don't like his way of singing also knowing he is a great singer and Iron Maiden is a great Metal group, in general, but is something stronger than me, I never went to see a concert of them, and the last album I bought was killers. I really don't like 'the number of the beast'. Maybe something good in Powerslave. It's only my opinion, but I grew up, here in Italy, where you can see 100 metal kids, and 95 have maidens t-shirt, three have Metallica, and two carcass, then me with Judas Priest. Here in Italy if some one talk about HM, only one group is mentioned: Iron Maiden. People which usually do not listen metal, knows Maidens. If you go to a newspaper kiosk you can buy all Maiden's discography. STOP !!!! Maybe it's not for them, but for the other. All of them made me hate Iron Maiden.
Too Pop fo me
Brian_Evans wrote:
Seems kind of weird that you don't like Maiden after Bruce joined. I just don't see them where their at now with Paul Di'Anno. It's hard to imagine Paul singing songs from Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, ect. Bruce can sing the Paul Di'Anno era but I can't see Paul singing much from The Bruce Dickinson era.
metallo wrote:
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
Edited at: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:01:58 PM
[Vaillant 3.0] Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:59:51 AM
*sniff sniff* That is NOT Eddie! That is an imposter! It ate the real Eddie up!
I always thought a "cult following" is associated with tiny groups of people are huge fans of a movie, band, etc. If Iron Maiden has a "cult following", then it sure is a huge one. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Jeanine from Wednesday, October 06, 2010 9:06:13 PM)
Jeanine wrote:
Hey Vail, you know I love ya, but that Alien thing in which you speak is Eddie . Being one who loves both bands I will say this, it is my firm belief that Iron Maiden has a cult following much like Deadheads (Grateful Dead) or even the Dave Matthews Band.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
It was that bad when I was in Berlin in August. The day the album was released I walked into a bookstore to look for a map of the city. Then I stumbled upon all the magazines that you mentioned: Metal Hammer, Metal Shock, Rock Hard... all with Iron Maiden and that alien thing on the cover. A little too much, like you said. AND there was an Iron Maiden poster up on one of the display windows. I bought and listened to the album the next day and did not like it at all. Then later that month there were IM posters up all over one corner of a street near my apartment, so seeing that alien thing up everyday while walking to the U-Bahn was irritating.
metallo wrote:
Maybe you're right, it's too much, but I can assure you that to hear many people talking about Heavy Metal and talking only about Iron Miden (itìs not a mistake), to go to the newspaper kiosk and see Metal Hammer with Iron Maiden in the cover, then Metal Shock with Iron Maiden in the cover, the Hard & Heavy (or something like this) with Iron MAiden poster, and all in the same period is too much. Yes maybe it's for the new album but it happens also in other occasions. When I saw on TV to present all Iron MAiden CD to be sold on newspaepr kiosks, was the maximum. Now if you go on ?Beyon the realms of priest' on the topics relevant best live album, there is a page dedicated to Rock in Rio !!! It's too much. KILL 'EM ALL !!!!
Brian_Evans wrote:
Lady Gaga??? Now thats a low blow. Shame on you. ha!
metallo wrote:
So this is just to demonstrate that they are Pop metal band. Pure shit. They don't need it. They could be part of the music history without all of this stupid merchandising. next tour with Lady Gaga as supporting band ?
paorcamp wrote:
HA!...that happens everywhere...here in Costa Rica nobody mentioned maiden before they first came on 2008, only real metalheads knew who Iron Maiden was, and after that concert you would find people wearing black maiden shirts, all kind of idiot would wear one, and if you ask what they listen to they would answer metal...which bands?? maiden...-any other??? eh...no...so!?!?!?! even those who wear big chains and caps and craps like 50 cents' stuff would wear an Iron maiden shirt...thats offensive and of course shows how common it is to find any sort of item even in a "newspaper kiosk" as you mention...now nobody who dares to consider himself a metalhead pays attention to maiden around here...I don't blame them...I don't blame you... (Quoting Message by metallo from Monday, September 20, 2010 12:58:31 PM)
metallo wrote:
You're right, I don't want to say that bruce is a bad singer, not at all, I just want to say that I don't like his way of singing also knowing he is a great singer and Iron Maiden is a great Metal group, in general, but is something stronger than me, I never went to see a concert of them, and the last album I bought was killers. I really don't like 'the number of the beast'. Maybe something good in Powerslave. It's only my opinion, but I grew up, here in Italy, where you can see 100 metal kids, and 95 have maidens t-shirt, three have Metallica, and two carcass, then me with Judas Priest. Here in Italy if some one talk about HM, only one group is mentioned: Iron Maiden. People which usually do not listen metal, knows Maidens. If you go to a newspaper kiosk you can buy all Maiden's discography. STOP !!!! Maybe it's not for them, but for the other. All of them made me hate Iron Maiden.
Too Pop fo me
Brian_Evans wrote:
Seems kind of weird that you don't like Maiden after Bruce joined. I just don't see them where their at now with Paul Di'Anno. It's hard to imagine Paul singing songs from Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, ect. Bruce can sing the Paul Di'Anno era but I can't see Paul singing much from The Bruce Dickinson era.
metallo wrote:
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
Edited at: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:01:58 PM
[Head banger] Thursday, October 07, 2010 6:28:01 AM
they do for sure, but there is also a folowing that barely knows them, wouldnt know the name paul Diano, yet wears their shirts, and has no idea bands like priest exist. they could probably name metalica, kiss ad maiden, yet think they are "into metal" that folowing is huge, yet baffling [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Jeanine from Wednesday, October 06, 2010 9:06:13 PM)
Jeanine wrote:
Hey Vail, you know I love ya, but that Alien thing in which you speak is Eddie . Being one who loves both bands I will say this, it is my firm belief that Iron Maiden has a cult following much like Deadheads (Grateful Dead) or even the Dave Matthews Band.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
It was that bad when I was in Berlin in August. The day the album was released I walked into a bookstore to look for a map of the city. Then I stumbled upon all the magazines that you mentioned: Metal Hammer, Metal Shock, Rock Hard... all with Iron Maiden and that alien thing on the cover. A little too much, like you said. AND there was an Iron Maiden poster up on one of the display windows. I bought and listened to the album the next day and did not like it at all. Then later that month there were IM posters up all over one corner of a street near my apartment, so seeing that alien thing up everyday while walking to the U-Bahn was irritating.
metallo wrote:
Maybe you're right, it's too much, but I can assure you that to hear many people talking about Heavy Metal and talking only about Iron Miden (itìs not a mistake), to go to the newspaper kiosk and see Metal Hammer with Iron Maiden in the cover, then Metal Shock with Iron Maiden in the cover, the Hard & Heavy (or something like this) with Iron MAiden poster, and all in the same period is too much. Yes maybe it's for the new album but it happens also in other occasions. When I saw on TV to present all Iron MAiden CD to be sold on newspaepr kiosks, was the maximum. Now if you go on ?Beyon the realms of priest' on the topics relevant best live album, there is a page dedicated to Rock in Rio !!! It's too much. KILL 'EM ALL !!!!
Brian_Evans wrote:
Lady Gaga??? Now thats a low blow. Shame on you. ha!
metallo wrote:
So this is just to demonstrate that they are Pop metal band. Pure shit. They don't need it. They could be part of the music history without all of this stupid merchandising. next tour with Lady Gaga as supporting band ?
paorcamp wrote:
HA!...that happens everywhere...here in Costa Rica nobody mentioned maiden before they first came on 2008, only real metalheads knew who Iron Maiden was, and after that concert you would find people wearing black maiden shirts, all kind of idiot would wear one, and if you ask what they listen to they would answer metal...which bands?? maiden...-any other??? eh...no...so!?!?!?! even those who wear big chains and caps and craps like 50 cents' stuff would wear an Iron maiden shirt...thats offensive and of course shows how common it is to find any sort of item even in a "newspaper kiosk" as you mention...now nobody who dares to consider himself a metalhead pays attention to maiden around here...I don't blame them...I don't blame you... (Quoting Message by metallo from Monday, September 20, 2010 12:58:31 PM)
metallo wrote:
You're right, I don't want to say that bruce is a bad singer, not at all, I just want to say that I don't like his way of singing also knowing he is a great singer and Iron Maiden is a great Metal group, in general, but is something stronger than me, I never went to see a concert of them, and the last album I bought was killers. I really don't like 'the number of the beast'. Maybe something good in Powerslave. It's only my opinion, but I grew up, here in Italy, where you can see 100 metal kids, and 95 have maidens t-shirt, three have Metallica, and two carcass, then me with Judas Priest. Here in Italy if some one talk about HM, only one group is mentioned: Iron Maiden. People which usually do not listen metal, knows Maidens. If you go to a newspaper kiosk you can buy all Maiden's discography. STOP !!!! Maybe it's not for them, but for the other. All of them made me hate Iron Maiden.
Too Pop fo me
Brian_Evans wrote:
Seems kind of weird that you don't like Maiden after Bruce joined. I just don't see them where their at now with Paul Di'Anno. It's hard to imagine Paul singing songs from Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, ect. Bruce can sing the Paul Di'Anno era but I can't see Paul singing much from The Bruce Dickinson era.
metallo wrote:
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
Edited at: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:01:58 PM
[Becks] Wednesday, October 06, 2010 10:10:42 PM
I agree with you Jeanine, it's very much a cult following that Iron Maiden have. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Jeanine from Wednesday, October 06, 2010 9:06:13 PM)
Jeanine wrote:
Hey Vail, you know I love ya, but that Alien thing in which you speak is Eddie . Being one who loves both bands I will say this, it is my firm belief that Iron Maiden has a cult following much like Deadheads (Grateful Dead) or even the Dave Matthews Band.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
It was that bad when I was in Berlin in August. The day the album was released I walked into a bookstore to look for a map of the city. Then I stumbled upon all the magazines that you mentioned: Metal Hammer, Metal Shock, Rock Hard... all with Iron Maiden and that alien thing on the cover. A little too much, like you said. AND there was an Iron Maiden poster up on one of the display windows. I bought and listened to the album the next day and did not like it at all. Then later that month there were IM posters up all over one corner of a street near my apartment, so seeing that alien thing up everyday while walking to the U-Bahn was irritating.
metallo wrote:
Maybe you're right, it's too much, but I can assure you that to hear many people talking about Heavy Metal and talking only about Iron Miden (itìs not a mistake), to go to the newspaper kiosk and see Metal Hammer with Iron Maiden in the cover, then Metal Shock with Iron Maiden in the cover, the Hard & Heavy (or something like this) with Iron MAiden poster, and all in the same period is too much. Yes maybe it's for the new album but it happens also in other occasions. When I saw on TV to present all Iron MAiden CD to be sold on newspaepr kiosks, was the maximum. Now if you go on ?Beyon the realms of priest' on the topics relevant best live album, there is a page dedicated to Rock in Rio !!! It's too much. KILL 'EM ALL !!!!
Brian_Evans wrote:
Lady Gaga??? Now thats a low blow. Shame on you. ha!
metallo wrote:
So this is just to demonstrate that they are Pop metal band. Pure shit. They don't need it. They could be part of the music history without all of this stupid merchandising. next tour with Lady Gaga as supporting band ?
paorcamp wrote:
HA!...that happens everywhere...here in Costa Rica nobody mentioned maiden before they first came on 2008, only real metalheads knew who Iron Maiden was, and after that concert you would find people wearing black maiden shirts, all kind of idiot would wear one, and if you ask what they listen to they would answer metal...which bands?? maiden...-any other??? eh...no...so!?!?!?! even those who wear big chains and caps and craps like 50 cents' stuff would wear an Iron maiden shirt...thats offensive and of course shows how common it is to find any sort of item even in a "newspaper kiosk" as you mention...now nobody who dares to consider himself a metalhead pays attention to maiden around here...I don't blame them...I don't blame you... (Quoting Message by metallo from Monday, September 20, 2010 12:58:31 PM)
metallo wrote:
You're right, I don't want to say that bruce is a bad singer, not at all, I just want to say that I don't like his way of singing also knowing he is a great singer and Iron Maiden is a great Metal group, in general, but is something stronger than me, I never went to see a concert of them, and the last album I bought was killers. I really don't like 'the number of the beast'. Maybe something good in Powerslave. It's only my opinion, but I grew up, here in Italy, where you can see 100 metal kids, and 95 have maidens t-shirt, three have Metallica, and two carcass, then me with Judas Priest. Here in Italy if some one talk about HM, only one group is mentioned: Iron Maiden. People which usually do not listen metal, knows Maidens. If you go to a newspaper kiosk you can buy all Maiden's discography. STOP !!!! Maybe it's not for them, but for the other. All of them made me hate Iron Maiden.
Too Pop fo me
Brian_Evans wrote:
Seems kind of weird that you don't like Maiden after Bruce joined. I just don't see them where their at now with Paul Di'Anno. It's hard to imagine Paul singing songs from Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, ect. Bruce can sing the Paul Di'Anno era but I can't see Paul singing much from The Bruce Dickinson era.
metallo wrote:
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
Edited at: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:01:58 PM
[Jeanine] Wednesday, October 06, 2010 9:06:13 PM
Hey Vail, you know I love ya, but that Alien thing in which you speak is Eddie . Being one who loves both bands I will say this, it is my firm belief that Iron Maiden has a cult following much like Deadheads (Grateful Dead) or even the Dave Matthews Band. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Wednesday, October 06, 2010 8:33:29 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
It was that bad when I was in Berlin in August. The day the album was released I walked into a bookstore to look for a map of the city. Then I stumbled upon all the magazines that you mentioned: Metal Hammer, Metal Shock, Rock Hard... all with Iron Maiden and that alien thing on the cover. A little too much, like you said. AND there was an Iron Maiden poster up on one of the display windows. I bought and listened to the album the next day and did not like it at all. Then later that month there were IM posters up all over one corner of a street near my apartment, so seeing that alien thing up everyday while walking to the U-Bahn was irritating.
metallo wrote:
Maybe you're right, it's too much, but I can assure you that to hear many people talking about Heavy Metal and talking only about Iron Miden (itìs not a mistake), to go to the newspaper kiosk and see Metal Hammer with Iron Maiden in the cover, then Metal Shock with Iron Maiden in the cover, the Hard & Heavy (or something like this) with Iron MAiden poster, and all in the same period is too much. Yes maybe it's for the new album but it happens also in other occasions. When I saw on TV to present all Iron MAiden CD to be sold on newspaepr kiosks, was the maximum. Now if you go on ?Beyon the realms of priest' on the topics relevant best live album, there is a page dedicated to Rock in Rio !!! It's too much. KILL 'EM ALL !!!!
Brian_Evans wrote:
Lady Gaga??? Now thats a low blow. Shame on you. ha!
metallo wrote:
So this is just to demonstrate that they are Pop metal band. Pure shit. They don't need it. They could be part of the music history without all of this stupid merchandising. next tour with Lady Gaga as supporting band ?
paorcamp wrote:
HA!...that happens everywhere...here in Costa Rica nobody mentioned maiden before they first came on 2008, only real metalheads knew who Iron Maiden was, and after that concert you would find people wearing black maiden shirts, all kind of idiot would wear one, and if you ask what they listen to they would answer metal...which bands?? maiden...-any other??? eh...no...so!?!?!?! even those who wear big chains and caps and craps like 50 cents' stuff would wear an Iron maiden shirt...thats offensive and of course shows how common it is to find any sort of item even in a "newspaper kiosk" as you mention...now nobody who dares to consider himself a metalhead pays attention to maiden around here...I don't blame them...I don't blame you... (Quoting Message by metallo from Monday, September 20, 2010 12:58:31 PM)
metallo wrote:
You're right, I don't want to say that bruce is a bad singer, not at all, I just want to say that I don't like his way of singing also knowing he is a great singer and Iron Maiden is a great Metal group, in general, but is something stronger than me, I never went to see a concert of them, and the last album I bought was killers. I really don't like 'the number of the beast'. Maybe something good in Powerslave. It's only my opinion, but I grew up, here in Italy, where you can see 100 metal kids, and 95 have maidens t-shirt, three have Metallica, and two carcass, then me with Judas Priest. Here in Italy if some one talk about HM, only one group is mentioned: Iron Maiden. People which usually do not listen metal, knows Maidens. If you go to a newspaper kiosk you can buy all Maiden's discography. STOP !!!! Maybe it's not for them, but for the other. All of them made me hate Iron Maiden.
Too Pop fo me
Brian_Evans wrote:
Seems kind of weird that you don't like Maiden after Bruce joined. I just don't see them where their at now with Paul Di'Anno. It's hard to imagine Paul singing songs from Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, ect. Bruce can sing the Paul Di'Anno era but I can't see Paul singing much from The Bruce Dickinson era.
metallo wrote:
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
Edited at: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:01:58 PM
[Vaillant 3.0] Wednesday, October 06, 2010 8:33:29 PM
It was that bad when I was in Berlin in August. The day the album was released I walked into a bookstore to look for a map of the city. Then I stumbled upon all the magazines that you mentioned: Metal Hammer, Metal Shock, Rock Hard... all with Iron Maiden and that alien thing on the cover. A little too much, like you said. AND there was an Iron Maiden poster up on one of the display windows. I bought and listened to the album the next day and did not like it at all. Then later that month there were IM posters up all over one corner of a street near my apartment, so seeing that alien thing up everyday while walking to the U-Bahn was irritating. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by metallo from Wednesday, October 06, 2010 2:01:28 PM)
metallo wrote:
Maybe you're right, it's too much, but I can assure you that to hear many people talking about Heavy Metal and talking only about Iron Miden (itìs not a mistake), to go to the newspaper kiosk and see Metal Hammer with Iron Maiden in the cover, then Metal Shock with Iron Maiden in the cover, the Hard & Heavy (or something like this) with Iron MAiden poster, and all in the same period is too much. Yes maybe it's for the new album but it happens also in other occasions. When I saw on TV to present all Iron MAiden CD to be sold on newspaepr kiosks, was the maximum. Now if you go on ?Beyon the realms of priest' on the topics relevant best live album, there is a page dedicated to Rock in Rio !!! It's too much. KILL 'EM ALL !!!!
Brian_Evans wrote:
Lady Gaga??? Now thats a low blow. Shame on you. ha!
metallo wrote:
So this is just to demonstrate that they are Pop metal band. Pure shit. They don't need it. They could be part of the music history without all of this stupid merchandising. next tour with Lady Gaga as supporting band ?
paorcamp wrote:
HA!...that happens everywhere...here in Costa Rica nobody mentioned maiden before they first came on 2008, only real metalheads knew who Iron Maiden was, and after that concert you would find people wearing black maiden shirts, all kind of idiot would wear one, and if you ask what they listen to they would answer metal...which bands?? maiden...-any other??? eh...no...so!?!?!?! even those who wear big chains and caps and craps like 50 cents' stuff would wear an Iron maiden shirt...thats offensive and of course shows how common it is to find any sort of item even in a "newspaper kiosk" as you mention...now nobody who dares to consider himself a metalhead pays attention to maiden around here...I don't blame them...I don't blame you... (Quoting Message by metallo from Monday, September 20, 2010 12:58:31 PM)
metallo wrote:
You're right, I don't want to say that bruce is a bad singer, not at all, I just want to say that I don't like his way of singing also knowing he is a great singer and Iron Maiden is a great Metal group, in general, but is something stronger than me, I never went to see a concert of them, and the last album I bought was killers. I really don't like 'the number of the beast'. Maybe something good in Powerslave. It's only my opinion, but I grew up, here in Italy, where you can see 100 metal kids, and 95 have maidens t-shirt, three have Metallica, and two carcass, then me with Judas Priest. Here in Italy if some one talk about HM, only one group is mentioned: Iron Maiden. People which usually do not listen metal, knows Maidens. If you go to a newspaper kiosk you can buy all Maiden's discography. STOP !!!! Maybe it's not for them, but for the other. All of them made me hate Iron Maiden.
Too Pop fo me
Brian_Evans wrote:
Seems kind of weird that you don't like Maiden after Bruce joined. I just don't see them where their at now with Paul Di'Anno. It's hard to imagine Paul singing songs from Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, ect. Bruce can sing the Paul Di'Anno era but I can't see Paul singing much from The Bruce Dickinson era.
metallo wrote:
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
Edited at: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:01:58 PM
[Brian_Evans] Wednesday, October 06, 2010 5:08:44 PM
Well all I know is that Iron Maiden is the best classic metall band of all time along with Judas Priest. I would guess that Maiden has sold more than any other classic metal band so you're going to see lots of pics. around. Just goes with the territory. My two favorite classic metal bands are Iron Maiden and Judas Priest. All other bands in my opinion come in second to these two. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by metallo from Wednesday, October 06, 2010 2:01:28 PM)
metallo wrote:
Maybe you're right, it's too much, but I can assure you that to hear many people talking about Heavy Metal and talking only about Iron Miden (itìs not a mistake), to go to the newspaper kiosk and see Metal Hammer with Iron Maiden in the cover, then Metal Shock with Iron Maiden in the cover, the Hard & Heavy (or something like this) with Iron MAiden poster, and all in the same period is too much. Yes maybe it's for the new album but it happens also in other occasions. When I saw on TV to present all Iron MAiden CD to be sold on newspaepr kiosks, was the maximum. Now if you go on ?Beyon the realms of priest' on the topics relevant best live album, there is a page dedicated to Rock in Rio !!! It's too much. KILL 'EM ALL !!!!
Brian_Evans wrote:
Lady Gaga??? Now thats a low blow. Shame on you. ha!
metallo wrote:
So this is just to demonstrate that they are Pop metal band. Pure shit. They don't need it. They could be part of the music history without all of this stupid merchandising. next tour with Lady Gaga as supporting band ?
paorcamp wrote:
HA!...that happens everywhere...here in Costa Rica nobody mentioned maiden before they first came on 2008, only real metalheads knew who Iron Maiden was, and after that concert you would find people wearing black maiden shirts, all kind of idiot would wear one, and if you ask what they listen to they would answer metal...which bands?? maiden...-any other??? eh...no...so!?!?!?! even those who wear big chains and caps and craps like 50 cents' stuff would wear an Iron maiden shirt...thats offensive and of course shows how common it is to find any sort of item even in a "newspaper kiosk" as you mention...now nobody who dares to consider himself a metalhead pays attention to maiden around here...I don't blame them...I don't blame you... (Quoting Message by metallo from Monday, September 20, 2010 12:58:31 PM)
metallo wrote:
You're right, I don't want to say that bruce is a bad singer, not at all, I just want to say that I don't like his way of singing also knowing he is a great singer and Iron Maiden is a great Metal group, in general, but is something stronger than me, I never went to see a concert of them, and the last album I bought was killers. I really don't like 'the number of the beast'. Maybe something good in Powerslave. It's only my opinion, but I grew up, here in Italy, where you can see 100 metal kids, and 95 have maidens t-shirt, three have Metallica, and two carcass, then me with Judas Priest. Here in Italy if some one talk about HM, only one group is mentioned: Iron Maiden. People which usually do not listen metal, knows Maidens. If you go to a newspaper kiosk you can buy all Maiden's discography. STOP !!!! Maybe it's not for them, but for the other. All of them made me hate Iron Maiden.
Too Pop fo me
Brian_Evans wrote:
Seems kind of weird that you don't like Maiden after Bruce joined. I just don't see them where their at now with Paul Di'Anno. It's hard to imagine Paul singing songs from Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, ect. Bruce can sing the Paul Di'Anno era but I can't see Paul singing much from The Bruce Dickinson era.
metallo wrote:
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
Edited at: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:01:58 PM
[metallo] Wednesday, October 06, 2010 2:01:28 PM
Maybe you're right, it's too much, but I can assure you that to hear many people talking about Heavy Metal and talking only about Iron Miden (itìs not a mistake), to go to the newspaper kiosk and see Metal Hammer with Iron Maiden in the cover, then Metal Shock with Iron Maiden in the cover, the Hard & Heavy (or something like this) with Iron MAiden poster, and all in the same period is too much. Yes maybe it's for the new album but it happens also in other occasions. When I saw on TV to present all Iron MAiden CD to be sold on newspaepr kiosks, was the maximum. Now if you go on ?Beyon the realms of priest' on the topics relevant best live album, there is a page dedicated to Rock in Rio !!! It's too much. KILL 'EM ALL !!!!
Lady Gaga??? Now thats a low blow. Shame on you. ha!
metallo wrote:
So this is just to demonstrate that they are Pop metal band. Pure shit. They don't need it. They could be part of the music history without all of this stupid merchandising. next tour with Lady Gaga as supporting band ?
paorcamp wrote:
HA!...that happens everywhere...here in Costa Rica nobody mentioned maiden before they first came on 2008, only real metalheads knew who Iron Maiden was, and after that concert you would find people wearing black maiden shirts, all kind of idiot would wear one, and if you ask what they listen to they would answer metal...which bands?? maiden...-any other??? eh...no...so!?!?!?! even those who wear big chains and caps and craps like 50 cents' stuff would wear an Iron maiden shirt...thats offensive and of course shows how common it is to find any sort of item even in a "newspaper kiosk" as you mention...now nobody who dares to consider himself a metalhead pays attention to maiden around here...I don't blame them...I don't blame you... (Quoting Message by metallo from Monday, September 20, 2010 12:58:31 PM)
metallo wrote:
You're right, I don't want to say that bruce is a bad singer, not at all, I just want to say that I don't like his way of singing also knowing he is a great singer and Iron Maiden is a great Metal group, in general, but is something stronger than me, I never went to see a concert of them, and the last album I bought was killers. I really don't like 'the number of the beast'. Maybe something good in Powerslave. It's only my opinion, but I grew up, here in Italy, where you can see 100 metal kids, and 95 have maidens t-shirt, three have Metallica, and two carcass, then me with Judas Priest. Here in Italy if some one talk about HM, only one group is mentioned: Iron Maiden. People which usually do not listen metal, knows Maidens. If you go to a newspaper kiosk you can buy all Maiden's discography. STOP !!!! Maybe it's not for them, but for the other. All of them made me hate Iron Maiden.
Too Pop fo me
Brian_Evans wrote:
Seems kind of weird that you don't like Maiden after Bruce joined. I just don't see them where their at now with Paul Di'Anno. It's hard to imagine Paul singing songs from Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, ect. Bruce can sing the Paul Di'Anno era but I can't see Paul singing much from The Bruce Dickinson era.
metallo wrote:
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
Edited at: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:01:58 PM
[Brian_Evans] Tuesday, September 28, 2010 7:45:30 AM
Lady Gaga??? Now thats a low blow. Shame on you. ha! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by metallo from Tuesday, September 28, 2010 4:37:02 AM)
metallo wrote:
So this is just to demonstrate that they are Pop metal band. Pure shit. They don't need it. They could be part of the music history without all of this stupid merchandising. next tour with Lady Gaga as supporting band ?
paorcamp wrote:
HA!...that happens everywhere...here in Costa Rica nobody mentioned maiden before they first came on 2008, only real metalheads knew who Iron Maiden was, and after that concert you would find people wearing black maiden shirts, all kind of idiot would wear one, and if you ask what they listen to they would answer metal...which bands?? maiden...-any other??? eh...no...so!?!?!?! even those who wear big chains and caps and craps like 50 cents' stuff would wear an Iron maiden shirt...thats offensive and of course shows how common it is to find any sort of item even in a "newspaper kiosk" as you mention...now nobody who dares to consider himself a metalhead pays attention to maiden around here...I don't blame them...I don't blame you... (Quoting Message by metallo from Monday, September 20, 2010 12:58:31 PM)
metallo wrote:
You're right, I don't want to say that bruce is a bad singer, not at all, I just want to say that I don't like his way of singing also knowing he is a great singer and Iron Maiden is a great Metal group, in general, but is something stronger than me, I never went to see a concert of them, and the last album I bought was killers. I really don't like 'the number of the beast'. Maybe something good in Powerslave. It's only my opinion, but I grew up, here in Italy, where you can see 100 metal kids, and 95 have maidens t-shirt, three have Metallica, and two carcass, then me with Judas Priest. Here in Italy if some one talk about HM, only one group is mentioned: Iron Maiden. People which usually do not listen metal, knows Maidens. If you go to a newspaper kiosk you can buy all Maiden's discography. STOP !!!! Maybe it's not for them, but for the other. All of them made me hate Iron Maiden.
Too Pop fo me
Brian_Evans wrote:
Seems kind of weird that you don't like Maiden after Bruce joined. I just don't see them where their at now with Paul Di'Anno. It's hard to imagine Paul singing songs from Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, ect. Bruce can sing the Paul Di'Anno era but I can't see Paul singing much from The Bruce Dickinson era.
metallo wrote:
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
Edited at: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:01:58 PM
[metallo] Tuesday, September 28, 2010 4:37:02 AM
So this is just to demonstrate that they are Pop metal band. Pure shit. They don't need it. They could be part of the music history without all of this stupid merchandising. next tour with Lady Gaga as supporting band ? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by paorcamp from Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:00:28 PM)
paorcamp wrote:
HA!...that happens everywhere...here in Costa Rica nobody mentioned maiden before they first came on 2008, only real metalheads knew who Iron Maiden was, and after that concert you would find people wearing black maiden shirts, all kind of idiot would wear one, and if you ask what they listen to they would answer metal...which bands?? maiden...-any other??? eh...no...so!?!?!?! even those who wear big chains and caps and craps like 50 cents' stuff would wear an Iron maiden shirt...thats offensive and of course shows how common it is to find any sort of item even in a "newspaper kiosk" as you mention...now nobody who dares to consider himself a metalhead pays attention to maiden around here...I don't blame them...I don't blame you... (Quoting Message by metallo from Monday, September 20, 2010 12:58:31 PM)
metallo wrote:
You're right, I don't want to say that bruce is a bad singer, not at all, I just want to say that I don't like his way of singing also knowing he is a great singer and Iron Maiden is a great Metal group, in general, but is something stronger than me, I never went to see a concert of them, and the last album I bought was killers. I really don't like 'the number of the beast'. Maybe something good in Powerslave. It's only my opinion, but I grew up, here in Italy, where you can see 100 metal kids, and 95 have maidens t-shirt, three have Metallica, and two carcass, then me with Judas Priest. Here in Italy if some one talk about HM, only one group is mentioned: Iron Maiden. People which usually do not listen metal, knows Maidens. If you go to a newspaper kiosk you can buy all Maiden's discography. STOP !!!! Maybe it's not for them, but for the other. All of them made me hate Iron Maiden.
Too Pop fo me
Brian_Evans wrote:
Seems kind of weird that you don't like Maiden after Bruce joined. I just don't see them where their at now with Paul Di'Anno. It's hard to imagine Paul singing songs from Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, ect. Bruce can sing the Paul Di'Anno era but I can't see Paul singing much from The Bruce Dickinson era.
metallo wrote:
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
Edited at: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:01:58 PM
[Brian_Evans] Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:48:14 PM
This is brutal.
[paorcamp] Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:00:28 PM
HA!...that happens everywhere...here in Costa Rica nobody mentioned maiden before they first came on 2008, only real metalheads knew who Iron Maiden was, and after that concert you would find people wearing black maiden shirts, all kind of idiot would wear one, and if you ask what they listen to they would answer metal...which bands?? maiden...-any other??? eh...no...so!?!?!?! even those who wear big chains and caps and craps like 50 cents' stuff would wear an Iron maiden shirt...thats offensive and of course shows how common it is to find any sort of item even in a "newspaper kiosk" as you mention...now nobody who dares to consider himself a metalhead pays attention to maiden around here...I don't blame them...I don't blame you... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by metallo from Monday, September 20, 2010 12:58:31 PM)
metallo wrote:
You're right, I don't want to say that bruce is a bad singer, not at all, I just want to say that I don't like his way of singing also knowing he is a great singer and Iron Maiden is a great Metal group, in general, but is something stronger than me, I never went to see a concert of them, and the last album I bought was killers. I really don't like 'the number of the beast'. Maybe something good in Powerslave. It's only my opinion, but I grew up, here in Italy, where you can see 100 metal kids, and 95 have maidens t-shirt, three have Metallica, and two carcass, then me with Judas Priest. Here in Italy if some one talk about HM, only one group is mentioned: Iron Maiden. People which usually do not listen metal, knows Maidens. If you go to a newspaper kiosk you can buy all Maiden's discography. STOP !!!! Maybe it's not for them, but for the other. All of them made me hate Iron Maiden.
Too Pop fo me
Brian_Evans wrote:
Seems kind of weird that you don't like Maiden after Bruce joined. I just don't see them where their at now with Paul Di'Anno. It's hard to imagine Paul singing songs from Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, ect. Bruce can sing the Paul Di'Anno era but I can't see Paul singing much from The Bruce Dickinson era.
metallo wrote:
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
Edited at: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:01:58 PM
[Brian_Evans] Saturday, September 25, 2010 5:54:21 PM
[K2M] Monday, September 20, 2010 1:04:36 PM
Bruce sucks doing the classic Maiden songs of Paul Dianno. IMO Edited at: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:05:01 PM
[metallo] Monday, September 20, 2010 12:58:31 PM
You're right, I don't want to say that bruce is a bad singer, not at all, I just want to say that I don't like his way of singing also knowing he is a great singer and Iron Maiden is a great Metal group, in general, but is something stronger than me, I never went to see a concert of them, and the last album I bought was killers. I really don't like 'the number of the beast'. Maybe something good in Powerslave. It's only my opinion, but I grew up, here in Italy, where you can see 100 metal kids, and 95 have maidens t-shirt, three have Metallica, and two carcass, then me with Judas Priest. Here in Italy if some one talk about HM, only one group is mentioned: Iron Maiden. People which usually do not listen metal, knows Maidens. If you go to a newspaper kiosk you can buy all Maiden's discography. STOP !!!! Maybe it's not for them, but for the other. All of them made me hate Iron Maiden.
Seems kind of weird that you don't like Maiden after Bruce joined. I just don't see them where their at now with Paul Di'Anno. It's hard to imagine Paul singing songs from Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, ect. Bruce can sing the Paul Di'Anno era but I can't see Paul singing much from The Bruce Dickinson era.
metallo wrote:
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
[Brian_Evans] Sunday, September 19, 2010 7:28:58 PM
Speaking of Powerslave
[Brian_Evans] Sunday, September 19, 2010 7:11:49 PM
Yes that does have a Powerslave feel to it. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, September 19, 2010 12:15:33 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Ok Brian,this cleans this place up a little,instead of comparing albums I'll say I like "The Pilgrim" from the A Matter Of Life And Death album,this song could of been on Powerslave if ya listen to it,or a track on a single like Rainbow's Gold or King Of Twitight.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, September 19, 2010 12:15:33 AM
Ok Brian,this cleans this place up a little,instead of comparing albums I'll say I like "The Pilgrim" from the A Matter Of Life And Death album,this song could of been on Powerslave if ya listen to it,or a track on a single like Rainbow's Gold or King Of Twitight.
[Brian_Evans] Saturday, September 18, 2010 4:40:20 PM
Seems kind of weird that you don't like Maiden after Bruce joined. I just don't see them where their at now with Paul Di'Anno. It's hard to imagine Paul singing songs from Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, ect. Bruce can sing the Paul Di'Anno era but I can't see Paul singing much from The Bruce Dickinson era. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by metallo from Saturday, September 18, 2010 3:26:12 PM)
metallo wrote:
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
[metallo] Saturday, September 18, 2010 3:26:12 PM
It's really quite boring this discussion about JP and IM. I'm 100% for priest, I don't like IM, sice Bruce Dickinson joined the band, or better, sice Paul Di Anno 'has' left the band, but at last they sold millions of albums world wide, every concert if full of fans, maybe somthing good came also from them, also if I have great difficulty to find it, but we have to give to everybody the chance to grow up. Starting from the music of Iron Maiden it should be good for reach perfection with Judas Priest!!!! Only few elected people had the chance to start immediately with Judas priest, just because we have already reached perfection, someone esle has to walk and walk and walk, so let them listen IM, it is the first step and evry wlaking start from the first step.
[Brian_Evans] Saturday, September 18, 2010 11:43:06 AM
[Skyhigharris] Saturday, September 18, 2010 11:16:12 AM
just got the new Maiden: Final Frontier! Awesome & it seems like they took a hint from Priest to make a more ellabrate album than in the past, simular to Nastrodamus. more epic in theme and tone.
[Zomby] Saturday, September 18, 2010 1:27:30 AM
hey brian are you an iron maiden fanzone member
[Brian_Evans] Friday, September 17, 2010 7:48:09 PM
What the heck are you talking about. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by acolyte55 from Friday, September 17, 2010 10:22:58 AM)
acolyte55 wrote:
sorry jd i meant g man killing machine lol
[acolyte55] Friday, September 17, 2010 10:22:58 AM
sorry jd i meant g man killing machine lol
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, September 17, 2010 2:58:23 AM
I like the Killing Machine album,Running Wild is my favorite track from it.
nice now how about you and killing machine jd ? lol
Edited at: Friday, September 17, 2010 2:59:00 AM
[acolyte55] Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:12:57 PM
nice now how about you and killing machine jd ? lol
[Brian_Evans] Thursday, September 16, 2010 12:16:38 PM
I'm sure the two of us could take him down. lol Thats cool you saw Maiden with Paul Dianno. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by zomby from Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:00:58 AM)
zomby wrote:
hey jd whats your build are you a huge mountain of a man mabe me and brian can fight you together ive got early iron maiden on vinyl brian mabe the first 3 i saw them when paul dianno was there singer but id seen judaspriest first so my alegencies belong to them ive got edward the great greatest hits and i like wasted years 2 minutes to midnight and wicker man if youve been on my bike show site which is bikesandbands.co.uk youll see my co organiser is a huge maiden fan i got him to go to wembly arena for priestfest and he now knows who laid the foundation for metal oh my shirt is on fire if you go on my site bloody nice to speak to you both
[Zomby] Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:00:58 AM
hey jd whats your build are you a huge mountain of a man mabe me and brian can fight you together ive got early iron maiden on vinyl brian mabe the first 3 i saw them when paul dianno was there singer but id seen judaspriest first so my alegencies belong to them ive got edward the great greatest hits and i like wasted years 2 minutes to midnight and wicker man if youve been on my bike show site which is bikesandbands.co.uk youll see my co organiser is a huge maiden fan i got him to go to wembly arena for priestfest and he now knows who laid the foundation for metal oh my shirt is on fire if you go on my site bloody nice to speak to you both
[Brian_Evans] Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:02:25 PM
I'm not much of a boxer but it sounds like he would go a few rounds with you. Now you never said what Maiden you liked.
hi brian you could sort this out with a boxing match with all proceeds going to charity what do you think
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:25:37 AM
Everything "was" fine,its "you" that couldn't handle my post about missing Iron Maiden(I was being "serious"!!) and you post your little "sniff sniff" to me obviously portraying that I'm crying about it rather than wishing one of my childhood favorite bands would play the music that I like again! Now,since you've set a "truce" I'll let you make the decision to break it. As far as I'm concerned,the hatchet is buried.
Hey zomby,you are so into boxing,how about you and I have a boxing match? (lol!) I have to say,I'm not that bad at boxing either although its been over 15 years since I stepped into the ring,but I think it will all come back to me HA!
Ok man enough is enough. It's obvious we don't agree on Maiden so lets just bury the hatchet and move on. No more name calling, no more bashing and all that, just move on. Simple as that. I'll even post some positive feedback in the Saxon thread, their not that bad. And if you don't want to post in here any longer thats ok.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Plus,I thought "nothing" bothered you when it comes to critisism of Iron Maiden? I thought you said give it your best shot? LOL! Well it looks like we have a little "liar" here.
Brian_Evans wrote:
sniff ...sniff
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yes jimmy,what an excellent song Still Life. I miss that band....I wish they never would of went away,I'd love to wsee them back but there doesn't look like much hope.Oh well,we still have the classic era of this once great band.
jimmyjames wrote:
This is a mint Maiden song. One of my faves.
Edited at: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:28:15 AM
[Zomby] Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:04:37 AM
hi brian you could sort this out with a boxing match with all proceeds going to charity what do you think
[Brian_Evans] Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:58:35 PM
Ok man enough is enough. It's obvious we don't agree on Maiden so lets just bury the hatchet and move on. No more name calling, no more bashing and all that, just move on. Simple as that. I'll even post some positive feedback in the Saxon thread, their not that bad. And if you don't want to post in here any longer thats ok. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:21:27 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Plus,I thought "nothing" bothered you when it comes to critisism of Iron Maiden? I thought you said give it your best shot? LOL! Well it looks like we have a little "liar" here.
Brian_Evans wrote:
sniff ...sniff
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yes jimmy,what an excellent song Still Life. I miss that band....I wish they never would of went away,I'd love to wsee them back but there doesn't look like much hope.Oh well,we still have the classic era of this once great band.
jimmyjames wrote:
This is a mint Maiden song. One of my faves.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:21:27 PM
Plus,I thought "nothing" bothered you when it comes to critisism of Iron Maiden? I thought you said give it your best shot? LOL! Well it looks like we have a little "liar" here.
Yes jimmy,what an excellent song Still Life. I miss that band....I wish they never would of went away,I'd love to wsee them back but there doesn't look like much hope.Oh well,we still have the classic era of this once great band.
jimmyjames wrote:
This is a mint Maiden song. One of my faves.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:15:02 PM
No need to sniff out loud,we all know your doing drugs. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:14:08 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
sniff ...sniff
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yes jimmy,what an excellent song Still Life. I miss that band....I wish they never would of went away,I'd love to wsee them back but there doesn't look like much hope.Oh well,we still have the classic era of this once great band.
jimmyjames wrote:
This is a mint Maiden song. One of my faves.
[Brian_Evans] Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:14:08 PM
Yes jimmy,what an excellent song Still Life. I miss that band....I wish they never would of went away,I'd love to wsee them back but there doesn't look like much hope.Oh well,we still have the classic era of this once great band.
jimmyjames wrote:
This is a mint Maiden song. One of my faves.
[Brian_Evans] Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:13:12 PM
Excellent, what do you like? Let me guess ...old Maiden? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by zomby from Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:28:36 AM)
zomby wrote:
ill say brian im not a great maiden fan but i do like some
[Zomby] Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:28:36 AM
ill say brian im not a great maiden fan but i do like some
[Brian_Evans] Monday, September 13, 2010 11:29:27 PM
Another Metal Masterpiece from Maiden with the great Clive Burr - The Prisoner
Good stuff!
[Brian_Evans] Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:19:48 PM
Another Metal Masterpiece from Maiden with the great Clive Burr - The Prisoner
Good stuff!
[Brian_Evans] Saturday, September 11, 2010 6:28:22 PM
Nice one Jimmy, their in top form. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:45:21 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
This is a mint Maiden song. One of my faves.
[spapad] Saturday, September 11, 2010 6:04:00 PM
Is Arlo Guthrie going to be there too! HA!!!You can get anything you want at Alice's Restuarant. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:40:58 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yes Peter Paul and Mary are opening up for Iron Maiden,yes they are the ones opening up because now Iron Maiden are the kings of folk music! lol!
spapad wrote:
Folk Artists! HA!!!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Oh ok Brian,thanks for your permission. " New Iron Maiden sucks" and they will never make another worthy studio album again,so don't bother with anything new from these folk artists.
Brian_Evans wrote:
No problem here, say it all you want. Go ahead, knock yourself out.
Doesn't bother me one bit man. Ha!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:57:59 PM
Yes jimmy,what an excellent song Still Life. I miss that band....I wish they never would of went away,I'd love to wsee them back but there doesn't look like much hope.Oh well,we still have the classic era of this once great band. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:45:21 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
This is a mint Maiden song. One of my faves.
[jimmyjames] Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:45:21 PM
This is a mint Maiden song. One of my faves.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:40:58 PM
Yes Peter Paul and Mary are opening up for Iron Maiden,yes they are the ones opening up because now Iron Maiden are the kings of folk music! lol! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:50:27 PM)
spapad wrote:
Folk Artists! HA!!!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Oh ok Brian,thanks for your permission. " New Iron Maiden sucks" and they will never make another worthy studio album again,so don't bother with anything new from these folk artists.
Brian_Evans wrote:
No problem here, say it all you want. Go ahead, knock yourself out.
Doesn't bother me one bit man. Ha!
[Brian_Evans] Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:29:39 PM
Wow! There's a lot of ignored messages in here. lmao
Oh ok Brian,thanks for your permission. " New Iron Maiden sucks" and they will never make another worthy studio album again,so don't bother with anything new from these folk artists.
Brian_Evans wrote:
No problem here, say it all you want. Go ahead, knock yourself out.
Doesn't bother me one bit man. Ha!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, September 11, 2010 1:25:13 PM
Oh ok Brian,thanks for your permission. " New Iron Maiden sucks" and they will never make another worthy studio album again,so don't bother with anything new from these folk artists. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:26:33 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
No problem here, say it all you want. Go ahead, knock yourself out.
Doesn't bother me one bit man. Ha!
[Brian_Evans] Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:26:33 PM
No problem here, say it all you want. Go ahead, knock yourself out.
Doesn't bother me one bit man. Ha!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, September 11, 2010 9:59:32 AM
Yes,like when you have a meltdown when somebody says Maiden sucks. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:46:39 AM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
I don't agree with that. His voice didn't sound as good as the early days when they recorded Heaven and Hell, Mob Rules, but it was still excellent after all those years. Its all just a matter of opinion though and some people in here just can't handle others opinions very well if you know what I mean. They have a complete meltdown. lol (Quoting Message by Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!! from Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:21:22 AM)
Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!! wrote:
I disagree, Dio's voice was stronger later in his life than when he was younger. I saw him a few months before his passing and was awe struck at that mans incredible vocals. More power and intensity then I could ever believe. I've heard rumors that maybe it was RJD's lack of drug intake that kept his voice so strong. I remember an interveiw with Tony Iommi, saying he was the only singer he ever knew who never needed to warm up his vocals.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Actually I'd say Bruce's voice is in better shape than Rob Halfords. Just my opinion. They all get weaker as they age.
Edited at: Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:47:30 AM
[Brian_Evans] Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:46:39 AM
I don't agree with that. His voice didn't sound as good as the early days when they recorded Heaven and Hell, Mob Rules, but it was still excellent after all those years. Its all just a matter of opinion though and some people in here just can't handle others opinions very well if you know what I mean. They have a complete meltdown. lol [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!! from Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:21:22 AM)
Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!! wrote:
I disagree, Dio's voice was stronger later in his life than when he was younger. I saw him a few months before his passing and was awe struck at that mans incredible vocals. More power and intensity then I could ever believe. I've heard rumors that maybe it was RJD's lack of drug intake that kept his voice so strong. I remember an interveiw with Tony Iommi, saying he was the only singer he ever knew who never needed to warm up his vocals.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Actually I'd say Bruce's voice is in better shape than Rob Halfords. Just my opinion. They all get weaker as they age.
Edited at: Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:47:30 AM
[Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!!] Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:21:22 AM
I disagree, Dio's voice was stronger later in his life than when he was younger. I saw him a few months before his passing and was awe struck at that mans incredible vocals. More power and intensity then I could ever believe. I've heard rumors that maybe it was RJD's lack of drug intake that kept his voice so strong. I remember an interveiw with Tony Iommi, saying he was the only singer he ever knew who never needed to warm up his vocals.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Friday, September 10, 2010 6:26:53 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
Actually I'd say Bruce's voice is in better shape than Rob Halfords. Just my opinion. They all get weaker as they age.
[spapad] Saturday, September 11, 2010 1:20:42 AM
Dont envy me, I like Crucible too! lol I just have a place in my heart for Resurrection. Maybe it 's a chick thing, but I got chills down my spine the first time I heard Resurrection, and knew the Metal God had Risen and I still do if I haven't listened to it in a bit,...................same thing!
Now Bwian wont really love anything but the soundtrack to Barney the purple Dinosaur ..............not really. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, September 10, 2010 11:39:26 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yeah I know lol! Its not a bad sounding album and its heavy,I guess its just never did anything for me,kinda like how Angel Of Retribution never did anything for hellrider,and how this Judas Priest forum doesn't do anything for Brian Evans.
I wish I liked it as much as I like Crucible,I envy you!!! lol!
spapad wrote:
Actually J.D. I love the Resurrection CD. Short of about 2 songs, I can love it all. It must be a me an Victoria kind of thing. She likes what I like mostly. lol
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Too bad the rest of the Ressurection album wasn't as good as the song "Ressurection". That album only has 3 songs on it that are worthy,the rest are boring throw away Halford tracks.Crucible smokes this album.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
THAT METAL MONSTER KICKS SERIOUS AS?
Brian_Evans wrote:
You know that track is probably the best thing Rob Halford has done in or out of Priest since the bad boy Painkiller cd. That has the Painkiller swagger. Pretty amazing song.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
LIKE 2 WEEKS AGO
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
ALL READY FOR THE NEXT PRIEST BEAST METAL MONSTER
THE 1 THAT WILL STEAL THE MIGHTY FROM THE PAINKILLER
Brian_Evans wrote:
Actually I'd say Bruce's voice is in better shape than Rob Halfords. Just my opinion. They all get weaker as they age.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, September 10, 2010 11:39:26 PM
Yeah I know lol! Its not a bad sounding album and its heavy,I guess its just never did anything for me,kinda like how Angel Of Retribution never did anything for hellrider,and how this Judas Priest forum doesn't do anything for Brian Evans.
I wish I liked it as much as I like Crucible,I envy you!!! lol! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, September 10, 2010 10:57:10 PM)
spapad wrote:
Actually J.D. I love the Resurrection CD. Short of about 2 songs, I can love it all. It must be a me an Victoria kind of thing. She likes what I like mostly. lol
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Too bad the rest of the Ressurection album wasn't as good as the song "Ressurection". That album only has 3 songs on it that are worthy,the rest are boring throw away Halford tracks.Crucible smokes this album.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
THAT METAL MONSTER KICKS SERIOUS AS?
Brian_Evans wrote:
You know that track is probably the best thing Rob Halford has done in or out of Priest since the bad boy Painkiller cd. That has the Painkiller swagger. Pretty amazing song.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
LIKE 2 WEEKS AGO
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
ALL READY FOR THE NEXT PRIEST BEAST METAL MONSTER
THE 1 THAT WILL STEAL THE MIGHTY FROM THE PAINKILLER
Brian_Evans wrote:
Actually I'd say Bruce's voice is in better shape than Rob Halfords. Just my opinion. They all get weaker as they age.
[hellrider 31038] Friday, September 10, 2010 11:08:05 PM
i tend to perfer crucible also.
SOME VERY POWERFUL MONSTERS ON THERE. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, September 10, 2010 10:37:01 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Too bad the rest of the Ressurection album wasn't as good as the song "Ressurection". That album only has 3 songs on it that are worthy,the rest are boring throw away Halford tracks.Crucible smokes this album.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
THAT METAL MONSTER KICKS SERIOUS AS?
Brian_Evans wrote:
You know that track is probably the best thing Rob Halford has done in or out of Priest since the bad boy Painkiller cd. That has the Painkiller swagger. Pretty amazing song.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
LIKE 2 WEEKS AGO
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
ALL READY FOR THE NEXT PRIEST BEAST METAL MONSTER
THE 1 THAT WILL STEAL THE MIGHTY FROM THE PAINKILLER
Brian_Evans wrote:
Actually I'd say Bruce's voice is in better shape than Rob Halfords. Just my opinion. They all get weaker as they age.
[guidogodoy] Friday, September 10, 2010 11:02:04 PM
I do too. I really dig all Halford releases for one reason or another. Even when the Metal God demands that I "Get Into the Spirit." [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, September 10, 2010 10:57:10 PM)
spapad wrote:
Actually J.D. I love the Resurrection CD. Short of about 2 songs, I can love it all. It must be a me an Victoria kind of thing. She likes what I like mostly. lol
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Too bad the rest of the Ressurection album wasn't as good as the song "Ressurection". That album only has 3 songs on it that are worthy,the rest are boring throw away Halford tracks.Crucible smokes this album.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
THAT METAL MONSTER KICKS SERIOUS AS?
Brian_Evans wrote:
You know that track is probably the best thing Rob Halford has done in or out of Priest since the bad boy Painkiller cd. That has the Painkiller swagger. Pretty amazing song.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
LIKE 2 WEEKS AGO
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
ALL READY FOR THE NEXT PRIEST BEAST METAL MONSTER
THE 1 THAT WILL STEAL THE MIGHTY FROM THE PAINKILLER
Brian_Evans wrote:
Actually I'd say Bruce's voice is in better shape than Rob Halfords. Just my opinion. They all get weaker as they age.
[spapad] Friday, September 10, 2010 10:57:10 PM
Actually J.D. I love the Resurrection CD. Short of about 2 songs, I can love it all. It must be a me an Victoria kind of thing. She likes what I like mostly. lol [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, September 10, 2010 10:37:01 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Too bad the rest of the Ressurection album wasn't as good as the song "Ressurection". That album only has 3 songs on it that are worthy,the rest are boring throw away Halford tracks.Crucible smokes this album.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
THAT METAL MONSTER KICKS SERIOUS AS?
Brian_Evans wrote:
You know that track is probably the best thing Rob Halford has done in or out of Priest since the bad boy Painkiller cd. That has the Painkiller swagger. Pretty amazing song.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
LIKE 2 WEEKS AGO
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
ALL READY FOR THE NEXT PRIEST BEAST METAL MONSTER
THE 1 THAT WILL STEAL THE MIGHTY FROM THE PAINKILLER
Brian_Evans wrote:
Actually I'd say Bruce's voice is in better shape than Rob Halfords. Just my opinion. They all get weaker as they age.
[spapad] Friday, September 10, 2010 10:52:35 PM
Damn Good one! I love Halford! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, September 10, 2010 10:50:13 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
For a killer album, I am still partial to Halford's "Live Insurrection." DAMN good double-CD.
Talk about "swagger." No, wait...forget that one. I am getting sick of all this swaggering. How about we just prance about a bit. Kinda like Janick! HAAAAAA!
[guidogodoy] Friday, September 10, 2010 10:50:13 PM
For a killer album, I am still partial to Halford's "Live Insurrection." DAMN good double-CD.
Talk about "swagger." No, wait...forget that one. I am getting sick of all this swaggering. How about we just prance about a bit. Kinda like Janick! HAAAAAA!
[spapad] Friday, September 10, 2010 10:40:18 PM
I know he still can. Hope he can keep it up for the next Big one! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Friday, September 10, 2010 10:38:25 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
glad you enjoyed it my METAL SISTER
KICK AS? VOLCALS OR WHAT.like i said all allong THE METAL GOD CAN STILL HIT THE NOTES.and people probably thought i was full of shi?.lol.
spapad wrote:
Most Excellent Hellrider my Brother!!!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
LIKE 2 WEEKS AGO
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
ALL READY FOR THE NEXT PRIEST BEAST METAL MONSTER
THE 1 THAT WILL STEAL THE MIGHTY FROM THE PAINKILLER
Brian_Evans wrote:
Actually I'd say Bruce's voice is in better shape than Rob Halfords. Just my opinion. They all get weaker as they age.
[spapad] Friday, September 10, 2010 10:39:10 PM
It's not even the whole song.......................Imagine if he actually listened to it? What a moroon is this Bwian! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34:56 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
THAT METAL MONSTER KICKS SERIOUS AS?
Brian_Evans wrote:
You know that track is probably the best thing Rob Halford has done in or out of Priest since the bad boy Painkiller cd. That has the Painkiller swagger. Pretty amazing song.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
LIKE 2 WEEKS AGO
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
ALL READY FOR THE NEXT PRIEST BEAST METAL MONSTER
THE 1 THAT WILL STEAL THE MIGHTY FROM THE PAINKILLER
Brian_Evans wrote:
Actually I'd say Bruce's voice is in better shape than Rob Halfords. Just my opinion. They all get weaker as they age.
[hellrider 31038] Friday, September 10, 2010 10:38:25 PM
glad you enjoyed it my METAL SISTER
KICK AS? VOLCALS OR WHAT.like i said all allong THE METAL GOD CAN STILL HIT THE NOTES.and people probably thought i was full of shi?.lol. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, September 10, 2010 8:13:45 PM)
spapad wrote:
Most Excellent Hellrider my Brother!!!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
LIKE 2 WEEKS AGO
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
ALL READY FOR THE NEXT PRIEST BEAST METAL MONSTER
THE 1 THAT WILL STEAL THE MIGHTY FROM THE PAINKILLER
Brian_Evans wrote:
Actually I'd say Bruce's voice is in better shape than Rob Halfords. Just my opinion. They all get weaker as they age.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, September 10, 2010 10:37:01 PM
Too bad the rest of the Ressurection album wasn't as good as the song "Ressurection". That album only has 3 songs on it that are worthy,the rest are boring throw away Halford tracks.Crucible smokes this album. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34:56 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
THAT METAL MONSTER KICKS SERIOUS AS?
Brian_Evans wrote:
You know that track is probably the best thing Rob Halford has done in or out of Priest since the bad boy Painkiller cd. That has the Painkiller swagger. Pretty amazing song.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
LIKE 2 WEEKS AGO
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
ALL READY FOR THE NEXT PRIEST BEAST METAL MONSTER
THE 1 THAT WILL STEAL THE MIGHTY FROM THE PAINKILLER
Brian_Evans wrote:
Actually I'd say Bruce's voice is in better shape than Rob Halfords. Just my opinion. They all get weaker as they age.
[hellrider 31038] Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34:56 PM
THAT METAL MONSTER KICKS SERIOUS AS? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Friday, September 10, 2010 8:30:21 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
You know that track is probably the best thing Rob Halford has done in or out of Priest since the bad boy Painkiller cd. That has the Painkiller swagger. Pretty amazing song.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
LIKE 2 WEEKS AGO
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
ALL READY FOR THE NEXT PRIEST BEAST METAL MONSTER
THE 1 THAT WILL STEAL THE MIGHTY FROM THE PAINKILLER
Brian_Evans wrote:
Actually I'd say Bruce's voice is in better shape than Rob Halfords. Just my opinion. They all get weaker as they age.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, September 10, 2010 10:26:41 PM
Since we are in the Iron Maiden thread,I suppose "EVERY" Iron Maiden album has the same swagger? The Number Of The Beast album....The Final Frontier album...same swagger? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Friday, September 10, 2010 8:30:21 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
You know that track is probably the best thing Rob Halford has done in or out of Priest since the bad boy Painkiller cd. That has the Painkiller swagger. Pretty amazing song.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
LIKE 2 WEEKS AGO
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
ALL READY FOR THE NEXT PRIEST BEAST METAL MONSTER
THE 1 THAT WILL STEAL THE MIGHTY FROM THE PAINKILLER
Brian_Evans wrote:
Actually I'd say Bruce's voice is in better shape than Rob Halfords. Just my opinion. They all get weaker as they age.
[Brian_Evans] Friday, September 10, 2010 8:30:21 PM
You know that track is probably the best thing Rob Halford has done in or out of Priest since the bad boy Painkiller cd. That has the Painkiller swagger. Pretty amazing song. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Friday, September 10, 2010 8:09:01 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
LIKE 2 WEEKS AGO
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
ALL READY FOR THE NEXT PRIEST BEAST METAL MONSTER
THE 1 THAT WILL STEAL THE MIGHTY FROM THE PAINKILLER
Brian_Evans wrote:
Actually I'd say Bruce's voice is in better shape than Rob Halfords. Just my opinion. They all get weaker as they age.
[spapad] Friday, September 10, 2010 8:13:45 PM
Most Excellent Hellrider my Brother!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Friday, September 10, 2010 8:09:01 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
LIKE 2 WEEKS AGO
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
ALL READY FOR THE NEXT PRIEST BEAST METAL MONSTER
THE 1 THAT WILL STEAL THE MIGHTY FROM THE PAINKILLER
Brian_Evans wrote:
Actually I'd say Bruce's voice is in better shape than Rob Halfords. Just my opinion. They all get weaker as they age.
[hellrider 31038] Friday, September 10, 2010 8:09:01 PM
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
LIKE 2 WEEKS AGO
CRANK IT FULL BLAST
ALL READY FOR THE NEXT PRIEST BEAST METAL MONSTER
THE 1 THAT WILL STEAL THE MIGHTY FROM THE PAINKILLER [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Friday, September 10, 2010 6:26:53 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
Actually I'd say Bruce's voice is in better shape than Rob Halfords. Just my opinion. They all get weaker as they age.
[Brian_Evans] Friday, September 10, 2010 7:56:29 PM
I don't recall posting any Saxon video a while back. Guess it wasn't worth remembering. lol
Oh you whine about everything you can get a chance at: If I say I hate Iron Maiden and they suck big dicks then you throw a fit and start crying,yet you posted a shit song video of Saxon a while back and I agreed with you how shitty it was cause that song sucked,had it been a great Saxon track I would of said so. Your a whining pathetic loser who is only here to stir up shit and you know it,so sit back on your keyboard and laugh your ass off or how you like to put it for all these years "ROFLMAO" and keep posting your false bullshit.
Brian_Evans wrote:
I put those on ignore because they came in this thread just to post a bunch of pictures and junk that has nothong to do with Maiden. If they want to cut it out then I'll give them another chance and take them off ignore.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
He doesn't give a shit about Iron Maiden or Judas Priest,he is just here to stir up shit. The unworthy "loser" talks all this shit about hitting the "ignore" button on everybody but he doesn't have the balls to ignore me. Fuckin loser.
metalmaz wrote:
Just google her!
Brian_Evans wrote:
I'd buy a Shania Twain cd just to look at her pics. lmao Thats one hot mama.
Edited at: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:20:21 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, September 10, 2010 6:44:51 PM
Oh you whine about everything you can get a chance at: If I say I hate Iron Maiden and they suck big dicks then you throw a fit and start crying,yet you posted a shit song video of Saxon a while back and I agreed with you how shitty it was cause that song sucked,had it been a great Saxon track I would of said so. Your a whining pathetic loser who is only here to stir up shit and you know it,so sit back on your keyboard and laugh your ass off or how you like to put it for all these years "ROFLMAO" and keep posting your false bullshit. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Friday, September 10, 2010 6:24:27 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
I put those on ignore because they came in this thread just to post a bunch of pictures and junk that has nothong to do with Maiden. If they want to cut it out then I'll give them another chance and take them off ignore.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
He doesn't give a shit about Iron Maiden or Judas Priest,he is just here to stir up shit. The unworthy "loser" talks all this shit about hitting the "ignore" button on everybody but he doesn't have the balls to ignore me. Fuckin loser.
metalmaz wrote:
Just google her!
Brian_Evans wrote:
I'd buy a Shania Twain cd just to look at her pics. lmao Thats one hot mama.
Edited at: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:20:21 PM
[spapad] Friday, September 10, 2010 6:32:25 PM
Nothing to do with Maiden. I like Madien. Early Maiden, but the shit they put out now sucks, so why should I pretend different? Nah, aint gonna happen. They are out of date and really need to retire.
Posting Priest on this site ANYWHERE is fair play, because this is the Judas Priest website, not Bwian's wonderland.
I put those on ignore because they came in this thread just to post a bunch of pictures and junk that has nothong to do with Maiden. If they want to cut it out then I'll give them another chance and take them off ignore.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
He doesn't give a shit about Iron Maiden or Judas Priest,he is just here to stir up shit. The unworthy "loser" talks all this shit about hitting the "ignore" button on everybody but he doesn't have the balls to ignore me. Fuckin loser.
metalmaz wrote:
Just google her!
Brian_Evans wrote:
I'd buy a Shania Twain cd just to look at her pics. lmao Thats one hot mama.
Edited at: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:20:21 PM
[Brian_Evans] Friday, September 10, 2010 6:26:53 PM
Actually I'd say Bruce's voice is in better shape than Rob Halfords. Just my opinion. They all get weaker as they age.
[Brian_Evans] Friday, September 10, 2010 6:24:27 PM
I put those on ignore because they came in this thread just to post a bunch of pictures and junk that has nothong to do with Maiden. If they want to cut it out then I'll give them another chance and take them off ignore. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, September 10, 2010 2:58:06 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
He doesn't give a shit about Iron Maiden or Judas Priest,he is just here to stir up shit. The unworthy "loser" talks all this shit about hitting the "ignore" button on everybody but he doesn't have the balls to ignore me. Fuckin loser.
metalmaz wrote:
Just google her!
Brian_Evans wrote:
I'd buy a Shania Twain cd just to look at her pics. lmao Thats one hot mama.
Edited at: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:20:21 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, September 10, 2010 5:54:51 PM
I respect Bruce for his efforts but his voice is more "irritating" these days than anything else what he used to be. His voice sounds "strained" when he tries to hit high notes and it sucks. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!! from Friday, September 10, 2010 5:15:22 PM)
Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!! wrote:
Dickinson has lost his voice, sure he can still sing, he's still heads and tail
above a million others but comparing the new album with the previous one
You notice it. He count can't hit as hard anymore, live shows he's using reverb for long screams and notes. That what age does after while though I guess.
[Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!!] Friday, September 10, 2010 5:15:22 PM
Dickinson has lost his voice, sure he can still sing, he's still heads and tail
above a million others but comparing the new album with the previous one
You notice it. He count can't hit as hard anymore, live shows he's using reverb for long screams and notes. That what age does after while though I guess.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, September 10, 2010 2:58:06 PM
He doesn't give a shit about Iron Maiden or Judas Priest,he is just here to stir up shit. The unworthy "loser" talks all this shit about hitting the "ignore" button on everybody but he doesn't have the balls to ignore me. Fuckin loser. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by metalmaz from Friday, September 10, 2010 10:08:46 AM)
metalmaz wrote:
Just google her!
Brian_Evans wrote:
I'd buy a Shania Twain cd just to look at her pics. lmao Thats one hot mama.
Edited at: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:20:21 PM
I'd buy a Shania Twain cd just to look at her pics. lmao Thats one hot mama.
Edited at: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:20:21 PM
[Head banger] Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:09:48 PM
try google images, cheaper. of course you could look for a real woman, but since you think she is perfect, your probably gonna have trouble. sign her breast>? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:11:24 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
I'd buy a Shania Twain cd just to look at her pics. lmao Thats one hot mama.
Edited at: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:20:21 PM
[Brian_Evans] Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:17:16 PM
Awesome live version of a metal masterpiece.
Where Eagles Dare - 1983
[Brian_Evans] Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:11:24 PM
I'd buy a Shania Twain cd just to look at her pics. lmao Thats one hot mama.
Edited at: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:20:21 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, September 09, 2010 1:25:17 PM
I totally agree. And this is coming from a long time valid Iron Maiden fan wich makes it more understandable. They have created 2 seperate fan bases,they built up an empire of heavy metal fans with thier first album up to Powerslave and then starting with Somewhere In Time up till now its a totally different band,even if you like the Somewhere In time album and others,its still a totally different band altogether.Thier album sales will always be up because of the old fans trying to hope that with each LP they may go back to the original style,but nope....they aint gonna give it up and its all about "Steve Harris". [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by metalmaz from Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:24:22 AM)
metalmaz wrote:
It amuses me how people think that if an album sells well, it's good. Shania Twain has sold shedloads, but does it make it good?
Avatar and Titanic broke box office receipts, but I found it hard to keep awake during both of them. Good special effects, yes, but a rubbish script and terrible acting
And look at the TV shows that get a huge audience. In England there is a terrible soap opera called Eastenders. All it is is a bunch ugly inbreds screeching and cawing at each other. And as for Simon Cowell's Britain'got No Talent - God actually WATCH it. Beggars belief.
And look at McDonalds. Repulsive. The burgers are clearly made out of cowshit. But billions of the things are consumed.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Yes I know your Lionessheart,I think the new album is failing with 80% of fans,maybe even 90% but the thing is that there are so,so many fans of the band who bought the album hoping it would turn out good and it obviously didn't but just by all these fans buying the album it will make albums sales go up,very deceiving. Same thing with the Turbo album,many bought the album because of the name Judas Priest,its deceiving.
I find it very interesting that such a "HUGE" Iron Maiden fan that you are,you are still disappointed in the New Album. This shows that your are very particular of how they write thier songs. You are anything but a "fanboy" like Brian Evans,if you were, Maiden could put out anything and you would hail it as "good as anything they have ever done". But obviously your not and you are the kind of "fan" that people should go to that don't know much about Iron Maiden,you could give them some advice on what to buy and what not to buy,this jack off Brian Evans is the worst fan anybody could ask.
metalmaz wrote:
We were saying as much on the Saxon forum (I'm Lionessheart!)
metalmaz wrote:
I really dislike Maiden's latest The Final Frontier. The worst Dickinson fronted Maiden album since No Prayer For the Dying. It's not quite as awful as Nostraborues but it's getting there.
Come on Maiden and Priest. Get your acts together.
[metalmaz] Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:24:22 AM
It amuses me how people think that if an album sells well, it's good. Shania Twain has sold shedloads, but does it make it good?
Avatar and Titanic broke box office receipts, but I found it hard to keep awake during both of them. Good special effects, yes, but a rubbish script and terrible acting
And look at the TV shows that get a huge audience. In England there is a terrible soap opera called Eastenders. All it is is a bunch ugly inbreds screeching and cawing at each other. And as for Simon Cowell's Britain'got No Talent - God actually WATCH it. Beggars belief.
And look at McDonalds. Repulsive. The burgers are clearly made out of cowshit. But billions of the things are consumed.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, September 07, 2010 12:36:33 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Yes I know your Lionessheart,I think the new album is failing with 80% of fans,maybe even 90% but the thing is that there are so,so many fans of the band who bought the album hoping it would turn out good and it obviously didn't but just by all these fans buying the album it will make albums sales go up,very deceiving. Same thing with the Turbo album,many bought the album because of the name Judas Priest,its deceiving.
I find it very interesting that such a "HUGE" Iron Maiden fan that you are,you are still disappointed in the New Album. This shows that your are very particular of how they write thier songs. You are anything but a "fanboy" like Brian Evans,if you were, Maiden could put out anything and you would hail it as "good as anything they have ever done". But obviously your not and you are the kind of "fan" that people should go to that don't know much about Iron Maiden,you could give them some advice on what to buy and what not to buy,this jack off Brian Evans is the worst fan anybody could ask.
metalmaz wrote:
We were saying as much on the Saxon forum (I'm Lionessheart!)
metalmaz wrote:
I really dislike Maiden's latest The Final Frontier. The worst Dickinson fronted Maiden album since No Prayer For the Dying. It's not quite as awful as Nostraborues but it's getting there.
Come on Maiden and Priest. Get your acts together.
[Jeanine] Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:03:54 PM
whew, I was worried for a minute. Though I gotta say, I can't help but like the photos..... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, September 07, 2010 10:15:16 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Never. The parens "(lack of)" went with the possessive "his." I have no doubts whatsoever that YOU could actually discuss Maiden and explain what you like and dislike about the band. HE, however, is incapable thus rendering this entire thread null.
Would that I could jump on the Maiden bandwagon nowadays but I really think that they lost it quite some time ago. Now let's compare Sammy vs. David Lee Roth! DIAMOND DAVE ALL THE WAY!! LOL! (Quoting Message by Jeanine from Tuesday, September 07, 2010 9:19:48 PM)
Jeanine wrote:
Ok Guido, I know you didn't just say I had lack of thought.
guidogodoy wrote:
I am still in SHOCK that he "enjoyed" reading Jeanine's post. What a damn surprise! He actually agrees with someone who echoes his own (lack of) thought.
He contradicts himself with every post. "Discussion" of Maiden. HA! If he has actually discussed something, I must have missed it among all the idiotic posts praising everything Maiden / Dickenson.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
And how he gives his opinion about how the new Judas Priest album should be like,its got to have a certain guitar sound and a certain Painkiller era swagger,and its got to have this and that ....while "Maiden" can put out literately "anything" and he is swearing it to be of the greatest quality ect....."we all know its bullshit" he is just trolling and talking shit.
guidogodoy wrote:
"Refreshing," yes, Ron. Interesting, sure. However, it has very little to do with what ol' Brian is trying to cram down our collective throats with his posts.
The article makes reference to "classic" metal singers (i.e. back in the day). I have yet to read a single post that makes a negative comment about OLD Maiden / Dickenson. The problem is the new material and by "new" I am referring to every album since Seventh Son (which I rather like). I think all would entertain a sincere discussion on the subject but what Brian pretends to do is far from what he writes. By blindly swearing that EVERYTHING that Maiden / Dickenson has done is as good as the earlier albums, especially on the Priest site, is trolling. Plain and simple.
ron h wrote:
An honest appraisal and quite refreshing...thanks Jeanine!!
Jeanine wrote:
I thought I was not going to come in here anymore but to gaze at the photos but I thought this article was very interesting:
Edited at: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 10:16:03 PM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, September 07, 2010 10:15:16 PM
Never. The parens "(lack of)" went with the possessive "his." I have no doubts whatsoever that YOU could actually discuss Maiden and explain what you like and dislike about the band. HE, however, is incapable thus rendering this entire thread null.
Would that I could jump on the Maiden bandwagon nowadays but I really think that they lost it quite some time ago. Now let's compare Sammy vs. David Lee Roth! DIAMOND DAVE ALL THE WAY!! LOL! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Jeanine from Tuesday, September 07, 2010 9:19:48 PM)
Jeanine wrote:
Ok Guido, I know you didn't just say I had lack of thought.
guidogodoy wrote:
I am still in SHOCK that he "enjoyed" reading Jeanine's post. What a damn surprise! He actually agrees with someone who echoes his own (lack of) thought.
He contradicts himself with every post. "Discussion" of Maiden. HA! If he has actually discussed something, I must have missed it among all the idiotic posts praising everything Maiden / Dickenson.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
And how he gives his opinion about how the new Judas Priest album should be like,its got to have a certain guitar sound and a certain Painkiller era swagger,and its got to have this and that ....while "Maiden" can put out literately "anything" and he is swearing it to be of the greatest quality ect....."we all know its bullshit" he is just trolling and talking shit.
guidogodoy wrote:
"Refreshing," yes, Ron. Interesting, sure. However, it has very little to do with what ol' Brian is trying to cram down our collective throats with his posts.
The article makes reference to "classic" metal singers (i.e. back in the day). I have yet to read a single post that makes a negative comment about OLD Maiden / Dickenson. The problem is the new material and by "new" I am referring to every album since Seventh Son (which I rather like). I think all would entertain a sincere discussion on the subject but what Brian pretends to do is far from what he writes. By blindly swearing that EVERYTHING that Maiden / Dickenson has done is as good as the earlier albums, especially on the Priest site, is trolling. Plain and simple.
ron h wrote:
An honest appraisal and quite refreshing...thanks Jeanine!!
Jeanine wrote:
I thought I was not going to come in here anymore but to gaze at the photos but I thought this article was very interesting:
Edited at: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 10:16:03 PM
[Jeanine] Tuesday, September 07, 2010 9:19:48 PM
Ok Guido, I know you didn't just say I had lack of thought. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, September 03, 2010 3:19:09 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
I am still in SHOCK that he "enjoyed" reading Jeanine's post. What a damn surprise! He actually agrees with someone who echoes his own (lack of) thought.
He contradicts himself with every post. "Discussion" of Maiden. HA! If he has actually discussed something, I must have missed it among all the idiotic posts praising everything Maiden / Dickenson.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
And how he gives his opinion about how the new Judas Priest album should be like,its got to have a certain guitar sound and a certain Painkiller era swagger,and its got to have this and that ....while "Maiden" can put out literately "anything" and he is swearing it to be of the greatest quality ect....."we all know its bullshit" he is just trolling and talking shit.
guidogodoy wrote:
"Refreshing," yes, Ron. Interesting, sure. However, it has very little to do with what ol' Brian is trying to cram down our collective throats with his posts.
The article makes reference to "classic" metal singers (i.e. back in the day). I have yet to read a single post that makes a negative comment about OLD Maiden / Dickenson. The problem is the new material and by "new" I am referring to every album since Seventh Son (which I rather like). I think all would entertain a sincere discussion on the subject but what Brian pretends to do is far from what he writes. By blindly swearing that EVERYTHING that Maiden / Dickenson has done is as good as the earlier albums, especially on the Priest site, is trolling. Plain and simple.
ron h wrote:
An honest appraisal and quite refreshing...thanks Jeanine!!
Jeanine wrote:
I thought I was not going to come in here anymore but to gaze at the photos but I thought this article was very interesting:
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, September 07, 2010 12:36:33 PM
LOL! Yes I know your Lionessheart,I think the new album is failing with 80% of fans,maybe even 90% but the thing is that there are so,so many fans of the band who bought the album hoping it would turn out good and it obviously didn't but just by all these fans buying the album it will make albums sales go up,very deceiving. Same thing with the Turbo album,many bought the album because of the name Judas Priest,its deceiving.
I find it very interesting that such a "HUGE" Iron Maiden fan that you are,you are still disappointed in the New Album. This shows that your are very particular of how they write thier songs. You are anything but a "fanboy" like Brian Evans,if you were, Maiden could put out anything and you would hail it as "good as anything they have ever done". But obviously your not and you are the kind of "fan" that people should go to that don't know much about Iron Maiden,you could give them some advice on what to buy and what not to buy,this jack off Brian Evans is the worst fan anybody could ask. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by metalmaz from Tuesday, September 07, 2010 11:47:50 AM)
metalmaz wrote:
We were saying as much on the Saxon forum (I'm Lionessheart!)
metalmaz wrote:
I really dislike Maiden's latest The Final Frontier. The worst Dickinson fronted Maiden album since No Prayer For the Dying. It's not quite as awful as Nostraborues but it's getting there.
Come on Maiden and Priest. Get your acts together.
[metalmaz] Tuesday, September 07, 2010 11:47:50 AM
We were saying as much on the Saxon forum (I'm Lionessheart!) [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by metalmaz from Monday, September 06, 2010 1:09:48 PM)
metalmaz wrote:
I really dislike Maiden's latest The Final Frontier. The worst Dickinson fronted Maiden album since No Prayer For the Dying. It's not quite as awful as Nostraborues but it's getting there.
Come on Maiden and Priest. Get your acts together.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, September 06, 2010 4:10:58 PM
I agree metalmaz,I think its lame,too tame and lets face it,its fuckin "boring" and the songs themselves are "crap". This is unexceptable for "true" Iron Maiden fans,the other fans who like it are fuckin "fanboys". [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by metalmaz from Monday, September 06, 2010 1:09:48 PM)
metalmaz wrote:
I really dislike Maiden's latest The Final Frontier. The worst Dickinson fronted Maiden album since No Prayer For the Dying. It's not quite as awful as Nostraborues but it's getting there.
Come on Maiden and Priest. Get your acts together.
[metalmaz] Monday, September 06, 2010 1:09:48 PM
I really dislike Maiden's latest The Final Frontier. The worst Dickinson fronted Maiden album since No Prayer For the Dying. It's not quite as awful as Nostraborues but it's getting there.
Come on Maiden and Priest. Get your acts together.
. Being one who loves both bands I will say this, it is my firm belief that Iron Maiden has a cult following much like Deadheads (Grateful Dead) or even the Dave Matthews Band.
You can get anything you want at Alice's Restuarant. 
lol!
