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[METAL MELTDOWN] Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:37:36 AM
Nothing wrong with hooker boots or cameltoe!!! even at church!!!!!!! lol [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:03:47 PM)
Head banger wrote:
to move from priest sad news to some funny/sad/pathetic. went to my sons christmas concert today, grade 7 and 8. I appreciate all the moms dressing up fancy and trying to look pretty, but its a middle school band concert, not a singles bar. the hooker boots might be excessive, the CAMELTOE (on two different women) is over the top. FFS!!!!
[METAL MELTDOWN] Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:35:18 AM
I know I havent been on hardly at all within the last few years but I had to pop on and say how saddened I am at the mighty Priest retirement. I owe SO MUCH to this band. They pulled me into a musical direction and gave me the instrument to play way back in the late 70's and I will be forever in their debt.
It is a retirement well deserved. Priest has SO many accomplishments and I know they can all look back on their careers with heads held high. I truely believe that Judas Priest took metal in the early 70's and pushed it so much further than what Black Sabbath could do. They took it away from blues based heavy rock and forged it into something so powerful that even Sabbath emulated it and nowhere near as good. They gave us the look and the sound that we ALL associate with heavy metal....LONG LIVE JUDAS PRIEST....
I put this to Justin on Facebook yesterday and want to say it here as well. If anyone wants to do a pilgrimage to a show on the final tour and if you live in NY or PA or OH or where ever let us know. You can find me on Facebook ( Phillip Ewing, North Tonawanda, NY or the Takken band page ) or let me know on here......
[jerZgirl] Wednesday, December 08, 2010 5:22:47 AM
It was awesome, Spa. Best show I have ever seen.
Still have to see the nuero doctor for the migraines but that can wait till next year. Have to get my arse in gear and get ready for work. Blech. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Tuesday, December 07, 2010 5:58:19 PM)
spapad wrote:
Glad you got to see Halford in a small place JerZ. Must have been awesome.
Sorry to hear your health has not been up to snuff lately. Very sorry indeed. Glad you got your beasties with you to keep your spirits high, and Music, got knows it does something great for the soul.
jerZgirl wrote:
Well, I am here again...
Shitty news this morning about the farewell tour. :( I'm just going to enjoy the ride and get to as many shows as possible.
But my life has been crazy...I have been battling Crohn's and migranes but I am feeling a lot better. I have the beasts (the corgis) to keep me company and busy!
Just saw Halford in Allentown, front row...AMAZING.
[spapad] Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:52:05 PM
EWEEEWWW! Damn, just realized we don't have a vomit smiley. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:03:47 PM)
Head banger wrote:
to move from priest sad news to some funny/sad/pathetic. went to my sons christmas concert today, grade 7 and 8. I appreciate all the moms dressing up fancy and trying to look pretty, but its a middle school band concert, not a singles bar. the hooker boots might be excessive, the CAMELTOE (on two different women) is over the top. FFS!!!!
[Head banger] Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:03:47 PM
to move from priest sad news to some funny/sad/pathetic. went to my sons christmas concert today, grade 7 and 8. I appreciate all the moms dressing up fancy and trying to look pretty, but its a middle school band concert, not a singles bar. the hooker boots might be excessive, the CAMELTOE (on two different women) is over the top. FFS!!!!
[Jeanine] Tuesday, December 07, 2010 10:55:27 PM
Just a little reminder Rob will be on WGN news on Wednesday at noon Chicago time.
[Trashcan Man] Tuesday, December 07, 2010 10:26:35 PM
Judas Priest will never die.
[guitardude] Tuesday, December 07, 2010 6:09:07 PM
Damn! My heart just sank to my feet when I read the news! I guess I understand why, but Damn I wasn`t expecting this . Time to get out the traveling shoes and hit as many shows as I can this last go `round.
What amazing memories they have given us all. Edited at: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 6:09:44 PM
[spapad] Tuesday, December 07, 2010 5:58:19 PM
Glad you got to see Halford in a small place JerZ. Must have been awesome.
Sorry to hear your health has not been up to snuff lately. Very sorry indeed. Glad you got your beasties with you to keep your spirits high, and Music, got knows it does something great for the soul. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jerZgirl from Tuesday, December 07, 2010 5:53:17 PM)
jerZgirl wrote:
Well, I am here again...
Shitty news this morning about the farewell tour. :( I'm just going to enjoy the ride and get to as many shows as possible.
But my life has been crazy...I have been battling Crohn's and migranes but I am feeling a lot better. I have the beasts (the corgis) to keep me company and busy!
Just saw Halford in Allentown, front row...AMAZING.
[jerZgirl] Tuesday, December 07, 2010 5:53:17 PM
Well, I am here again...
Shitty news this morning about the farewell tour. :( I'm just going to enjoy the ride and get to as many shows as possible.
But my life has been crazy...I have been battling Crohn's and migranes but I am feeling a lot better. I have the beasts (the corgis) to keep me company and busy!
Just saw Halford in Allentown, front row...AMAZING.
Hi, gang! Yes, its me. I heard the news and thought I would stop by for a few words. I know that many of you find this news difficult to accept and I suppose there is a part of me that feels the same, however, I find this moment more bittersweet.
We all have such wonderful memories of this great, great band. So many things we will always recall with tremendous fondness as we remember where we were when or what we were doing..... All the fantastic concerts we have enjoyed, the awesome music they have made and the amazing people we have met. And, of course, there is this site.
I cannot say what will become of this place when the guys finally play that last song. I assume there are many tears to be shed and many hugs to share. I will always be grateful to the people that made this site more than just a web page. More than just a fan site. I found friendship here that I will cherish for the rest of my days.
I have not been here much in the last few months and I quite likely will not be back too often. I prefer to remember this site for what it was and who was here. I prefer to remember all the friends I have made and all the great times we had here. All in the name of the GREATEST band ever! They have given us SO much more than music. They are and will always be a part of us. When I hear a Priest song, I will think of you all. I will remember those crazy days of years ago. The laughs we shared and some of the tears. The fun and even the bad moments. I will remember the FAITHFUL DEFENDERS. Our two albums and all that went into them. The days at MM's house. The sights that the Princess and I saw in New York. The WONDERFUL music we made.
Perhaps we will see one another at one of the final shows next year? I know that I will think of you when I see the boys making their final stop near me! I thank all of you for the many years we have spent together. I love you guys. Please remember that. Please remember me. Thank you Rob, Glenn, Ian and Scott. I will remember you.
[spapad] Tuesday, December 07, 2010 5:22:50 PM
Love to you too DF. Shame you don't come round here no more. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:18:34 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Hi, gang! Yes, its me. I heard the news and thought I would stop by for a few words. I know that many of you find this news difficult to accept and I suppose there is a part of me that feels the same, however, I find this moment more bittersweet.
We all have such wonderful memories of this great, great band. So many things we will always recall with tremendous fondness as we remember where we were when or what we were doing..... All the fantastic concerts we have enjoyed, the awesome music they have made and the amazing people we have met. And, of course, there is this site.
I cannot say what will become of this place when the guys finally play that last song. I assume there are many tears to be shed and many hugs to share. I will always be grateful to the people that made this site more than just a web page. More than just a fan site. I found friendship here that I will cherish for the rest of my days.
I have not been here much in the last few months and I quite likely will not be back too often. I prefer to remember this site for what it was and who was here. I prefer to remember all the friends I have made and all the great times we had here. All in the name of the GREATEST band ever! They have given us SO much more than music. They are and will always be a part of us. When I hear a Priest song, I will think of you all. I will remember those crazy days of years ago. The laughs we shared and some of the tears. The fun and even the bad moments. I will remember the FAITHFUL DEFENDERS. Our two albums and all that went into them. The days at MM's house. The sights that the Princess and I saw in New York. The WONDERFUL music we made.
Perhaps we will see one another at one of the final shows next year? I know that I will think of you when I see the boys making their final stop near me! I thank all of you for the many years we have spent together. I love you guys. Please remember that. Please remember me. Thank you Rob, Glenn, Ian and Scott. I will remember you.
[acolyte55] Tuesday, December 07, 2010 2:55:53 PM
happy belated st andrews day necro !! to all my buchanan clan brethren and sisters clar innes !!!!
[Necroticist] Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:39:46 PM
..o what's the damn point when my messages get removed....seriously....not fun...
[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:18:34 PM
Hi, gang! Yes, its me. I heard the news and thought I would stop by for a few words. I know that many of you find this news difficult to accept and I suppose there is a part of me that feels the same, however, I find this moment more bittersweet.
We all have such wonderful memories of this great, great band. So many things we will always recall with tremendous fondness as we remember where we were when or what we were doing..... All the fantastic concerts we have enjoyed, the awesome music they have made and the amazing people we have met. And, of course, there is this site.
I cannot say what will become of this place when the guys finally play that last song. I assume there are many tears to be shed and many hugs to share. I will always be grateful to the people that made this site more than just a web page. More than just a fan site. I found friendship here that I will cherish for the rest of my days.
I have not been here much in the last few months and I quite likely will not be back too often. I prefer to remember this site for what it was and who was here. I prefer to remember all the friends I have made and all the great times we had here. All in the name of the GREATEST band ever! They have given us SO much more than music. They are and will always be a part of us. When I hear a Priest song, I will think of you all. I will remember those crazy days of years ago. The laughs we shared and some of the tears. The fun and even the bad moments. I will remember the FAITHFUL DEFENDERS. Our two albums and all that went into them. The days at MM's house. The sights that the Princess and I saw in New York. The WONDERFUL music we made.
Perhaps we will see one another at one of the final shows next year? I know that I will think of you when I see the boys making their final stop near me! I thank all of you for the many years we have spent together. I love you guys. Please remember that. Please remember me. Thank you Rob, Glenn, Ian and Scott. I will remember you.
[Painkiller87] Tuesday, December 07, 2010 8:54:16 AM
WHAT THE CRAP???!!! This is just something I didn't expect this morning!! I nearly choked on my breakfast burrito reading this news!! Wow. Guess that does it then. This is a sad day for heavy metal; the final tour of the Metal Gods. Damn, guess I will save as much money as possible for a meet and greet before they are gone forever.
Edited at: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 8:54:29 AM
[Head banger] Tuesday, December 07, 2010 8:32:23 AM
theres the reason. I didnt think of that. still, terrible news. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Demonizer13 from Tuesday, December 07, 2010 8:31:23 AM)
Demonizer13 wrote:
Well my friends, the day has finally come...the announcement of a "Farewell Tour"....that hurts.
Very sad day indeed. I do not know what to think of the timing...would have rather gotten the news after the holiday's, yet as I think about it, now I could ask for all kinds of JP stuff for Christmas that I normally wouldn't get!
[Demonizer13] Tuesday, December 07, 2010 8:31:23 AM
Well my friends, the day has finally come...the announcement of a "Farewell Tour"....that hurts.
Very sad day indeed. I do not know what to think of the timing...would have rather gotten the news after the holiday's, yet as I think about it, now I could ask for all kinds of JP stuff for Christmas that I normally wouldn't get!
[Necroticist] Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:38:02 AM
Nowhere else to post this...but Happy St. Andrews Day to all our Scottish brethren..Slainte Mhath!
[Head banger] Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:46:54 AM
way to ruin a happy...
then again just mentioning airlines ruins most happy thoughts.
Hmmm. Nice commercial but now extrapolate to the airlines. The young girl and wife would now be the implicit threat. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, November 25, 2010 10:08:15 PM)
[Painkiller87] Friday, November 26, 2010 1:41:29 PM
Wow. That was a great Thanksgiving we had here. All good food and great pie. Hope everyone else here had a great turkey day! Edited at: Friday, November 26, 2010 1:41:41 PM
[Vaillant 3.0] Friday, November 26, 2010 12:37:23 PM
Ima 1337 haxor.
Cool vid, HB!! That's a very creative way to drive home a message. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, November 25, 2010 5:20:55 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Heh. Both really.
Hey, Vail. Where did you get my drawing?
spapad wrote:
Are you talking about the bird, or the game?
guidogodoy wrote:
HAAAAAAAAAAPY TURKEY DAY!
[Head banger] Thursday, November 25, 2010 10:08:15 PM
[guidogodoy] Thursday, November 25, 2010 5:20:55 PM
Heh. Both really.
Hey, Vail. Where did you get my drawing? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Thursday, November 25, 2010 1:35:12 PM)
spapad wrote:
Are you talking about the bird, or the game?
guidogodoy wrote:
HAAAAAAAAAAPY TURKEY DAY!
[Vaillant 3.0] Thursday, November 25, 2010 3:20:17 PM
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!! It's almost time to dig in here in the good ol' US of A. Mmmmmm...turkey...
(not my hand, by the way...)
[spapad] Thursday, November 25, 2010 1:35:12 PM
Are you talking about the bird, or the game? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, November 25, 2010 1:11:21 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
HAAAAAAAAAAPY TURKEY DAY!
[guidogodoy] Thursday, November 25, 2010 1:11:21 PM
HAAAAAAAAAAPY TURKEY DAY!
[spapad] Wednesday, November 24, 2010 11:32:59 PM
Congrats to him, nice to see someone at the top willing to step forward. You would not get that out of Massy. They should be named Messy. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Wednesday, November 24, 2010 11:10:59 PM)
Becks wrote:
This mine is on the South Island, so not near me. To lose 29 people, for a nation of just over 4 million, is a big shock. I have heard about the WV mine too, how eerily similar it was to here. It's sad in the WV case the company sounds very corrupt. It is fortunate that the CEO of Pike River Mine (the mine here) has fronted every media conference, is obviously shattered and has conducted himself with grace and integrity.
spapad wrote:
I did hear about that. Sad thing to have happen. How close was the mine to your area Becks?
The story sounded very familiar to a Mine tragedy in WV not long ago. Methane was the cause there too. They never stood a chance to get anyone out due to the very high levels of methane filing the mine. 33 people died. The mine was not safe to enter to retrieve the bodies for several weeks. It will surprise no one familiar with American mining that the company in charge of the mine was Massey Energy. That company is all about greed and cuting corners. They are always running Massey commercials here trying to con the public into thinking they are working to resolve these issues. Bull.
Becks wrote:
Well I want this year to be over, well and truly. It's been a shocking year for my wee country. You guys may not have seen on the news over there, but last friday a coal mine on the South Island had an explosion, which trapped 29 miners. Rescuers had not been able to go in due to the gas levels, methane mostly. And today we found out, there was a second massive explosion at the mine. Police and the mine company have said, there are no survivors, the blast was too huge
[Becks] Wednesday, November 24, 2010 11:10:59 PM
This mine is on the South Island, so not near me. To lose 29 people, for a nation of just over 4 million, is a big shock. I have heard about the WV mine too, how eerily similar it was to here. It's sad in the WV case the company sounds very corrupt. It is fortunate that the CEO of Pike River Mine (the mine here) has fronted every media conference, is obviously shattered and has conducted himself with grace and integrity. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Wednesday, November 24, 2010 5:25:52 PM)
spapad wrote:
I did hear about that. Sad thing to have happen. How close was the mine to your area Becks?
The story sounded very familiar to a Mine tragedy in WV not long ago. Methane was the cause there too. They never stood a chance to get anyone out due to the very high levels of methane filing the mine. 33 people died. The mine was not safe to enter to retrieve the bodies for several weeks. It will surprise no one familiar with American mining that the company in charge of the mine was Massey Energy. That company is all about greed and cuting corners. They are always running Massey commercials here trying to con the public into thinking they are working to resolve these issues. Bull.
Becks wrote:
Well I want this year to be over, well and truly. It's been a shocking year for my wee country. You guys may not have seen on the news over there, but last friday a coal mine on the South Island had an explosion, which trapped 29 miners. Rescuers had not been able to go in due to the gas levels, methane mostly. And today we found out, there was a second massive explosion at the mine. Police and the mine company have said, there are no survivors, the blast was too huge
[spapad] Wednesday, November 24, 2010 5:25:52 PM
I did hear about that. Sad thing to have happen. How close was the mine to your area Becks?
The story sounded very familiar to a Mine tragedy in WV not long ago. Methane was the cause there too. They never stood a chance to get anyone out due to the very high levels of methane filing the mine. 33 people died. The mine was not safe to enter to retrieve the bodies for several weeks. It will surprise no one familiar with American mining that the company in charge of the mine was Massey Energy. That company is all about greed and cuting corners. They are always running Massey commercials here trying to con the public into thinking they are working to resolve these issues. Bull. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:31:37 PM)
Becks wrote:
Well I want this year to be over, well and truly. It's been a shocking year for my wee country. You guys may not have seen on the news over there, but last friday a coal mine on the South Island had an explosion, which trapped 29 miners. Rescuers had not been able to go in due to the gas levels, methane mostly. And today we found out, there was a second massive explosion at the mine. Police and the mine company have said, there are no survivors, the blast was too huge
[acolyte55] Wednesday, November 24, 2010 3:32:10 PM
having been in the air for the 911 event- precautions are good!!! this is how i feel , anytime you feel violated ,look at the footage of the day , i have a good friend that is a fireman that told me the first firefighter death was caused by being hit by a jumper from the tower , so x ray away lol again just my feelings cheers
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 11:14:07 PM
Nope, hadn't heard a thing. Read all about it online. Right on the heels of the success story in Chile. How sad. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:31:37 PM)
Becks wrote:
Well I want this year to be over, well and truly. It's been a shocking year for my wee country. You guys may not have seen on the news over there, but last friday a coal mine on the South Island had an explosion, which trapped 29 miners. Rescuers had not been able to go in due to the gas levels, methane mostly. And today we found out, there was a second massive explosion at the mine. Police and the mine company have said, there are no survivors, the blast was too huge
[Becks] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:31:37 PM
Well I want this year to be over, well and truly. It's been a shocking year for my wee country. You guys may not have seen on the news over there, but last friday a coal mine on the South Island had an explosion, which trapped 29 miners. Rescuers had not been able to go in due to the gas levels, methane mostly. And today we found out, there was a second massive explosion at the mine. Police and the mine company have said, there are no survivors, the blast was too huge
[spapad] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:52:19 PM
I think we just need more dedicated ladies in the front line, like Shaneesha:
I'll take the full body scan when going through security at Sacramento International Airport. Hopefully it will be quick and painless.
If not, then I'll ask to be packed in a giant box with styrofoam peanuts and a giant roll of bubble wrap to pass the time while in the cargo plane. I'll even pay extra for overnight delivery.
spapad wrote:
As Thankgiving approaches, for those who shall be flying, are you looking forward to the body scan or the complete "pat down"?
Nothing like being felt up at the airport by strange people wearing latex gloves. I'm thinking I would go for full body scan. Afterall, if you look at enough naked bodies, like in art class, they all just look like nothing but objects.
[Vaillant 3.0] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:16:59 PM
I'll take the full body scan when going through security at Sacramento International Airport. Hopefully it will be quick and painless.
If not, then I'll ask to be packed in a giant box with styrofoam peanuts and a giant roll of bubble wrap to pass the time while in the cargo plane. I'll even pay extra for overnight delivery. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Monday, November 22, 2010 10:25:06 PM)
spapad wrote:
As Thankgiving approaches, for those who shall be flying, are you looking forward to the body scan or the complete "pat down"?
Nothing like being felt up at the airport by strange people wearing latex gloves. I'm thinking I would go for full body scan. Afterall, if you look at enough naked bodies, like in art class, they all just look like nothing but objects.
[Head banger] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:57:14 PM
I heard the lines were quick. not at all friendly though. well trained and armed people, not min wage. one of the pre board screeners at yyc is someone I fired for theft. now you cant disclose that... if anyone had bothered to check a reference but still.
packing us like freight is the ideal solution. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:21:20 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
I've never been to Ben Gurion Airport in Israel either but I know a lot of people who have both from this country and others. As I understand, Israel isn't exactly gun-shy there either. Their airport security isn't made up of a great number of ill-trained, minimum wage employees. From all accounts, you best show up 3 hours early to the airport and be prepared to have any electronic device taken away or even destroyed based on the slightest suspicion. A friend who worked with the Spanish Embassy and is used to such treatment even described Tel Aviv as both "polite" yet "unpleasant." Either you know and are travelling with an Israeli, ARE one or are in a tour group. All others are highly suspect.
450 airports in the USA vs. 1 in Israel hardly makes this a viable option, though. Puffer technology or, better yet, just freeze everyone and treat 'em like freight. No bomb threats, no bad food, not even the problem of getting sick from a fellow passenger if they use enough Saran Wrap. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:54:49 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they also have people with guns present all over the place, but there are no lines. I dont know, have never been there.
I will say this for having people armed at every counter. when I was in cuba and I saw the guys delivering to a bank or filling a bank machine and 5 guys with AK47s staring down everyone who was near, I crossed the street to avoid them. still a 1 hour lineup is bullshit. that bothers me more than the pat down or the guy eyballing my junk on a screen.
guidogodoy wrote:
The Israeli airport security system is less physically intrusive but is based on racial profiling. Such a system would never be authorized here in the US as, unlike Israel, minorities have strong anti-discrimination rights. More importantly, they have stronger financial and political backing in terms of lobby groups to protect those rights whereas the "common" US citizen does not.
Head banger wrote:
I guess it doesnt bother me, but I am sure there are better ways. Isreal doesnt have planes hijacked or bombed, or lineups, patdowns etc.
Edited at: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:24:11 PM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:21:20 PM
I've never been to Ben Gurion Airport in Israel either but I know a lot of people who have both from this country and others. As I understand, Israel isn't exactly gun-shy there either. Their airport security isn't made up of a great number of ill-trained, minimum wage employees. From all accounts, you best show up 3 hours early to the airport and be prepared to have any electronic device taken away or even destroyed based on the slightest suspicion. A friend who worked with the Spanish Embassy and is used to such treatment even described Tel Aviv as both "polite" yet "unpleasant." Either you know and are travelling with an Israeli, ARE one or are in a tour group. All others are highly suspect.
450 airports in the USA vs. 1 in Israel hardly makes this a viable option, though. Puffer technology or, better yet, just freeze everyone and treat 'em like freight. No bomb threats, no bad food, not even the problem of getting sick from a fellow passenger if they use enough Saran Wrap. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:54:49 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they also have people with guns present all over the place, but there are no lines. I dont know, have never been there.
I will say this for having people armed at every counter. when I was in cuba and I saw the guys delivering to a bank or filling a bank machine and 5 guys with AK47s staring down everyone who was near, I crossed the street to avoid them. still a 1 hour lineup is bullshit. that bothers me more than the pat down or the guy eyballing my junk on a screen.
guidogodoy wrote:
The Israeli airport security system is less physically intrusive but is based on racial profiling. Such a system would never be authorized here in the US as, unlike Israel, minorities have strong anti-discrimination rights. More importantly, they have stronger financial and political backing in terms of lobby groups to protect those rights whereas the "common" US citizen does not.
Head banger wrote:
I guess it doesnt bother me, but I am sure there are better ways. Isreal doesnt have planes hijacked or bombed, or lineups, patdowns etc.
Edited at: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:24:11 PM
[Head banger] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:54:49 PM
they also have people with guns present all over the place, but there are no lines. I dont know, have never been there.
I will say this for having people armed at every counter. when I was in cuba and I saw the guys delivering to a bank or filling a bank machine and 5 guys with AK47s staring down everyone who was near, I crossed the street to avoid them. still a 1 hour lineup is bullshit. that bothers me more than the pat down or the guy eyballing my junk on a screen. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:17:05 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
The Israeli airport security system is less physically intrusive but is based on racial profiling. Such a system would never be authorized here in the US as, unlike Israel, minorities have strong anti-discrimination rights. More importantly, they have stronger financial and political backing in terms of lobby groups to protect those rights whereas the "common" US citizen does not.
Head banger wrote:
I guess it doesnt bother me, but I am sure there are better ways. Isreal doesnt have planes hijacked or bombed, or lineups, patdowns etc.
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:17:05 PM
The Israeli airport security system is less physically intrusive but is based on racial profiling. Such a system would never be authorized here in the US as, unlike Israel, minorities have strong anti-discrimination rights. More importantly, they have stronger financial and political backing in terms of lobby groups to protect those rights whereas the "common" US citizen does not. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:48:27 PM)
Head banger wrote:
I guess it doesnt bother me, but I am sure there are better ways. Isreal doesnt have planes hijacked or bombed, or lineups, patdowns etc.
[Head banger] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:48:27 PM
I guess it doesnt bother me, but I am sure there are better ways. Isreal doesnt have planes hijacked or bombed, or lineups, patdowns etc.
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:34:07 PM
Only if you are lucky. 80% still go through regular metal detectors.
I love the argument I have seen about "don't like it, don't fly." Keep that in mind when you need to get home. Remember, the backscatters are here, not there. Hey, you can always opt to take a boat home. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:07:51 PM)
Becks wrote:
I'm sure I will find out how bad this 'pat down' is around April - hoping to travel to the States then, lol.
guidogodoy wrote:
Has anyone actually flown in the US lately? At least been keeping up with the "don't touch my junk, bro" issue? It is certainly a more invasive patdown. The TSA has been a disaster since it took over (surprise surprise) and can't even keep their own ranks safe having given numerous screening jobs and even pilot lessons to illegals. Even better, they have yet to catch a soul.
Everyone is for safety, but this is a complete joke in the guise of "protection." I hope that opt-out day does something tomorrow.
[Becks] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:07:51 PM
I'm sure I will find out how bad this 'pat down' is around April - hoping to travel to the States then, lol. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, November 23, 2010 11:42:41 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Has anyone actually flown in the US lately? At least been keeping up with the "don't touch my junk, bro" issue? It is certainly a more invasive patdown. The TSA has been a disaster since it took over (surprise surprise) and can't even keep their own ranks safe having given numerous screening jobs and even pilot lessons to illegals. Even better, they have yet to catch a soul.
Everyone is for safety, but this is a complete joke in the guise of "protection." I hope that opt-out day does something tomorrow.
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 11:42:41 AM
Has anyone actually flown in the US lately? At least been keeping up with the "don't touch my junk, bro" issue? It is certainly a more invasive patdown. The TSA has been a disaster since it took over (surprise surprise) and can't even keep their own ranks safe having given numerous screening jobs and even pilot lessons to illegals. Even better, they have yet to catch a soul.
Everyone is for safety, but this is a complete joke in the guise of "protection." I hope that opt-out day does something tomorrow.
[Head banger] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 11:00:58 AM
beter nude and/or felt up than dead
[guitardude] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:48:57 AM
I know this whole screening procedure is a pain in the ass, but let`s not forget why it`s being done.
[Head banger] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:24:56 AM
I am sure its no more invasive than the patdown that I got going to the system of a down concert. the good news there was that women could only be searched by female screeners, but since there were no girls in line I got felt up by a fairly atractive girl, not the guy who looked like he never bathed. good fun. they checked you close enough to know your religion.... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Monday, November 22, 2010 10:25:06 PM)
spapad wrote:
As Thankgiving approaches, for those who shall be flying, are you looking forward to the body scan or the complete "pat down"?
Nothing like being felt up at the airport by strange people wearing latex gloves. I'm thinking I would go for full body scan. Afterall, if you look at enough naked bodies, like in art class, they all just look like nothing but objects.
[guidogodoy] Monday, November 22, 2010 10:27:32 PM
Nothing better than a good dose of "backscatter" radiation, I say! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Monday, November 22, 2010 10:25:06 PM)
spapad wrote:
As Thankgiving approaches, for those who shall be flying, are you looking forward to the body scan or the complete "pat down"?
Nothing like being felt up at the airport by strange people wearing latex gloves. I'm thinking I would go for full body scan. Afterall, if you look at enough naked bodies, like in art class, they all just look like nothing but objects.
[spapad] Monday, November 22, 2010 10:25:06 PM
As Thankgiving approaches, for those who shall be flying, are you looking forward to the body scan or the complete "pat down"?
Nothing like being felt up at the airport by strange people wearing latex gloves. I'm thinking I would go for full body scan. Afterall, if you look at enough naked bodies, like in art class, they all just look like nothing but objects.
[Necroticist] Monday, November 22, 2010 7:39:22 PM
No - ain't got the greeting....am guessing is no loss tho [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, November 22, 2010 5:31:03 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Hope she sent the Metal God's xmas greeting too...if not, Merry Metal Xmas!
Necroticist wrote:
Save yaself the bother...lol -Lady Erzebeth sent me a link...it's actually good!!! Rob hits some good highs...
guidogodoy wrote:
Never mind...see you got it.
Necroticist wrote:
Um...just an observation...apparently Fight did a single called 'Christmas Ride' - despite all attempts i can NOT find it online...does anyone know more??
Edited at: Monday, November 22, 2010 5:28:00 PM
[Vaillant 3.0] Monday, November 22, 2010 7:00:19 PM
Where'm I at? I'm on the Internets, watching silly videos and checking out all the loverly ladies and gents here. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by zomby from Monday, November 22, 2010 2:56:05 AM)
zomby wrote:
hey vailient where you at
[spapad] Monday, November 22, 2010 6:33:17 PM
Let's hope it was a metal x-mas greeting and not something small, fury, and boiled. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, November 22, 2010 5:31:03 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Hope she sent the Metal God's xmas greeting too...if not, Merry Metal Xmas!
Necroticist wrote:
Save yaself the bother...lol -Lady Erzebeth sent me a link...it's actually good!!! Rob hits some good highs...
guidogodoy wrote:
Never mind...see you got it.
Necroticist wrote:
Um...just an observation...apparently Fight did a single called 'Christmas Ride' - despite all attempts i can NOT find it online...does anyone know more??
Edited at: Monday, November 22, 2010 5:28:00 PM
[guidogodoy] Monday, November 22, 2010 5:31:03 PM
Hope she sent the Metal God's xmas greeting too...if not, Merry Metal Xmas! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Monday, November 22, 2010 5:29:25 PM)
Necroticist wrote:
Save yaself the bother...lol -Lady Erzebeth sent me a link...it's actually good!!! Rob hits some good highs...
guidogodoy wrote:
Never mind...see you got it.
Necroticist wrote:
Um...just an observation...apparently Fight did a single called 'Christmas Ride' - despite all attempts i can NOT find it online...does anyone know more??
Edited at: Monday, November 22, 2010 5:28:00 PM
[Necroticist] Monday, November 22, 2010 5:29:25 PM
Save yaself the bother...lol -Lady Erzebeth sent me a link...it's actually good!!! Rob hits some good highs... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, November 22, 2010 5:25:30 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Never mind...see you got it.
Necroticist wrote:
Um...just an observation...apparently Fight did a single called 'Christmas Ride' - despite all attempts i can NOT find it online...does anyone know more??
Edited at: Monday, November 22, 2010 5:28:00 PM
[guidogodoy] Monday, November 22, 2010 5:25:30 PM
Never mind...see you got it.
Necroticist wrote:
Um...just an observation...apparently Fight did a single called 'Christmas Ride' - despite all attempts i can NOT find it online...does anyone know more??
Edited at: Monday, November 22, 2010 5:28:00 PM
[Necroticist] Monday, November 22, 2010 11:37:53 AM
Um...just an observation...apparently Fight did a single called 'Christmas Ride' - despite all attempts i can NOT find it online...does anyone know more??
[Zomby] Monday, November 22, 2010 2:56:37 AM
sorry mate vailant
[Zomby] Monday, November 22, 2010 2:56:05 AM
hey vailient where you at
[Vaillant 3.0] Monday, November 22, 2010 12:10:31 AM
Well, you aren't exactly the King of Ignores, either. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Sunday, November 21, 2010 6:56:18 PM)
Head banger wrote:
slacker!!!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
I only have 14 ignores. *sniff sniff*
Anyway...Happy Sunday, ladies and gents!! Hope you all have a good one.
For those in the US, do you guys and gals have plans for Thanksgiving?
[Head banger] Sunday, November 21, 2010 6:56:18 PM
It sent the PM back to ME...never seen that happen B4
spapad wrote:
May depend on who your trying to PM. If a person has their settings to except PM's from friends only, and they have not added you to their friends list, then it wont go through. Or it could be just a minor glitch in the system at this time. Try again later. (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Sunday, November 21, 2010 8:34:20 AM)
Necroticist wrote:
er....is it just me or can others send PM's?? cos mine kinda fook up
Edited at: Sunday, November 21, 2010 8:38:22 AM Edited at: Sunday, November 21, 2010 8:38:40 AM
[Necroticist] Sunday, November 21, 2010 8:49:02 AM
It sent the PM back to ME...never seen that happen B4 [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, November 21, 2010 8:38:11 AM)
spapad wrote:
May depend on who your trying to PM. If a person has their settings to except PM's from friends only, and they have not added you to their friends list, then it wont go through. Or it could be just a minor glitch in the system at this time. Try again later. (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Sunday, November 21, 2010 8:34:20 AM)
Necroticist wrote:
er....is it just me or can others send PM's?? cos mine kinda fook up
Edited at: Sunday, November 21, 2010 8:38:22 AM Edited at: Sunday, November 21, 2010 8:38:40 AM
[spapad] Sunday, November 21, 2010 8:38:11 AM
May depend on who your trying to PM. If a person has their settings to except PM's from friends only, and they have not added you to their friends list, then it wont go through. Or it could be just a minor glitch in the system at this time. Try again later. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Sunday, November 21, 2010 8:34:20 AM)
Necroticist wrote:
er....is it just me or can others send PM's?? cos mine kinda fook up
Edited at: Sunday, November 21, 2010 8:38:22 AM Edited at: Sunday, November 21, 2010 8:38:40 AM
[Necroticist] Sunday, November 21, 2010 8:34:20 AM
er....is it just me or can others send PM's?? cos mine kinda fook up
[Necroticist] Sunday, November 21, 2010 8:31:00 AM
ooo - i got 21 'ignores' now...maybe i should celebrate...lol
[spapad] Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:52:02 PM
Or hand dryers that are also redeye activated and of course never work and then you have to do the great "use your lower pants" for a handtowel manuver. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, November 18, 2010 6:35:11 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
I much prefer dancing with the auto paper towel dispensers.
spapad wrote:
Our interstate highway reststops have those kind of toilets. They are also infrared flushers, so if you move (at all in some cases) it starts to flush. Best to be out of the way. Those work pretty good, but they did the same thing to the sinks too and you end up waving you hands in all manners of patterns trying in vain many times to get the water to turn on, even then, if goes off again before you get all the soap off your hands. Annoying.
jimmyjames wrote:
I've never been to the states but in Canada the toilets are filled almost to the top with water so that when you flush it creates a whirlpool effect, In NZ there is only a small amount of water in the bottom of the bowl so the flush is created throuh a large amount of water smashing down on the offending substance, so our toilets rely on just the power of the flush going down, not in any particular direction
guidogodoy wrote:
"which seemed to be going in no particular direction," HAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! Well, THAT is hardly conclusive! LOL!!!
I do appreciate the effort, though. I remember when the Simpsons go to Australia, they had a super-expensive device in the US Embassy to make their toilets flow clockwise so it must be true.
Hey, JJ. Go flush a toilet for us!
Becks wrote:
Just for you Guido, I just went and flushed my toilet for investigative purposes. Amongst all the rushing water, which seemed to be going in no particular direction, I noted that it appeard to be swirling counter clockwise. I can't be sure though.
guidogodoy wrote:
I wanna go to NZ to see if the toilet water swirls in the opposite direction as is often reported.
For those of us who can't make it anytime soon, Becks, do give a flush and full report.
[Necroticist] Thursday, November 18, 2010 6:37:27 PM
Always knew u were wierd...lol [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, November 18, 2010 6:35:11 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
I much prefer dancing with the auto paper towel dispensers.
spapad wrote:
Our interstate highway reststops have those kind of toilets. They are also infrared flushers, so if you move (at all in some cases) it starts to flush. Best to be out of the way. Those work pretty good, but they did the same thing to the sinks too and you end up waving you hands in all manners of patterns trying in vain many times to get the water to turn on, even then, if goes off again before you get all the soap off your hands. Annoying.
jimmyjames wrote:
I've never been to the states but in Canada the toilets are filled almost to the top with water so that when you flush it creates a whirlpool effect, In NZ there is only a small amount of water in the bottom of the bowl so the flush is created throuh a large amount of water smashing down on the offending substance, so our toilets rely on just the power of the flush going down, not in any particular direction
guidogodoy wrote:
"which seemed to be going in no particular direction," HAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! Well, THAT is hardly conclusive! LOL!!!
I do appreciate the effort, though. I remember when the Simpsons go to Australia, they had a super-expensive device in the US Embassy to make their toilets flow clockwise so it must be true.
Hey, JJ. Go flush a toilet for us!
Becks wrote:
Just for you Guido, I just went and flushed my toilet for investigative purposes. Amongst all the rushing water, which seemed to be going in no particular direction, I noted that it appeard to be swirling counter clockwise. I can't be sure though.
guidogodoy wrote:
I wanna go to NZ to see if the toilet water swirls in the opposite direction as is often reported.
For those of us who can't make it anytime soon, Becks, do give a flush and full report.
[guidogodoy] Thursday, November 18, 2010 6:35:11 PM
I much prefer dancing with the auto paper towel dispensers. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Thursday, November 18, 2010 5:34:51 PM)
spapad wrote:
Our interstate highway reststops have those kind of toilets. They are also infrared flushers, so if you move (at all in some cases) it starts to flush. Best to be out of the way. Those work pretty good, but they did the same thing to the sinks too and you end up waving you hands in all manners of patterns trying in vain many times to get the water to turn on, even then, if goes off again before you get all the soap off your hands. Annoying.
jimmyjames wrote:
I've never been to the states but in Canada the toilets are filled almost to the top with water so that when you flush it creates a whirlpool effect, In NZ there is only a small amount of water in the bottom of the bowl so the flush is created throuh a large amount of water smashing down on the offending substance, so our toilets rely on just the power of the flush going down, not in any particular direction
guidogodoy wrote:
"which seemed to be going in no particular direction," HAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! Well, THAT is hardly conclusive! LOL!!!
I do appreciate the effort, though. I remember when the Simpsons go to Australia, they had a super-expensive device in the US Embassy to make their toilets flow clockwise so it must be true.
Hey, JJ. Go flush a toilet for us!
Becks wrote:
Just for you Guido, I just went and flushed my toilet for investigative purposes. Amongst all the rushing water, which seemed to be going in no particular direction, I noted that it appeard to be swirling counter clockwise. I can't be sure though.
guidogodoy wrote:
I wanna go to NZ to see if the toilet water swirls in the opposite direction as is often reported.
For those of us who can't make it anytime soon, Becks, do give a flush and full report.
[spapad] Thursday, November 18, 2010 5:34:51 PM
Our interstate highway reststops have those kind of toilets. They are also infrared flushers, so if you move (at all in some cases) it starts to flush. Best to be out of the way. Those work pretty good, but they did the same thing to the sinks too and you end up waving you hands in all manners of patterns trying in vain many times to get the water to turn on, even then, if goes off again before you get all the soap off your hands. Annoying. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, November 18, 2010 5:46:51 AM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I've never been to the states but in Canada the toilets are filled almost to the top with water so that when you flush it creates a whirlpool effect, In NZ there is only a small amount of water in the bottom of the bowl so the flush is created throuh a large amount of water smashing down on the offending substance, so our toilets rely on just the power of the flush going down, not in any particular direction
guidogodoy wrote:
"which seemed to be going in no particular direction," HAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! Well, THAT is hardly conclusive! LOL!!!
I do appreciate the effort, though. I remember when the Simpsons go to Australia, they had a super-expensive device in the US Embassy to make their toilets flow clockwise so it must be true.
Hey, JJ. Go flush a toilet for us!
Becks wrote:
Just for you Guido, I just went and flushed my toilet for investigative purposes. Amongst all the rushing water, which seemed to be going in no particular direction, I noted that it appeard to be swirling counter clockwise. I can't be sure though.
guidogodoy wrote:
I wanna go to NZ to see if the toilet water swirls in the opposite direction as is often reported.
For those of us who can't make it anytime soon, Becks, do give a flush and full report.
[guidogodoy] Thursday, November 18, 2010 4:46:05 PM
So you have an airplane toilet in your bathroom! LOL!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, November 18, 2010 5:46:51 AM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I've never been to the states but in Canada the toilets are filled almost to the top with water so that when you flush it creates a whirlpool effect, In NZ there is only a small amount of water in the bottom of the bowl so the flush is created throuh a large amount of water smashing down on the offending substance, so our toilets rely on just the power of the flush going down, not in any particular direction
guidogodoy wrote:
"which seemed to be going in no particular direction," HAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! Well, THAT is hardly conclusive! LOL!!!
I do appreciate the effort, though. I remember when the Simpsons go to Australia, they had a super-expensive device in the US Embassy to make their toilets flow clockwise so it must be true.
Hey, JJ. Go flush a toilet for us!
Becks wrote:
Just for you Guido, I just went and flushed my toilet for investigative purposes. Amongst all the rushing water, which seemed to be going in no particular direction, I noted that it appeard to be swirling counter clockwise. I can't be sure though.
guidogodoy wrote:
I wanna go to NZ to see if the toilet water swirls in the opposite direction as is often reported.
For those of us who can't make it anytime soon, Becks, do give a flush and full report.
[Necroticist] Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:32:28 PM
All i know is ur loo flushes counter-clockwise...lol (ours go the other way).
[Becks] Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:49:24 AM
LMAO I like your description JJ, that's what I was trying to describe but didn't do a very good job [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, November 18, 2010 5:46:51 AM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I've never been to the states but in Canada the toilets are filled almost to the top with water so that when you flush it creates a whirlpool effect, In NZ there is only a small amount of water in the bottom of the bowl so the flush is created throuh a large amount of water smashing down on the offending substance, so our toilets rely on just the power of the flush going down, not in any particular direction
guidogodoy wrote:
"which seemed to be going in no particular direction," HAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! Well, THAT is hardly conclusive! LOL!!!
I do appreciate the effort, though. I remember when the Simpsons go to Australia, they had a super-expensive device in the US Embassy to make their toilets flow clockwise so it must be true.
Hey, JJ. Go flush a toilet for us!
Becks wrote:
Just for you Guido, I just went and flushed my toilet for investigative purposes. Amongst all the rushing water, which seemed to be going in no particular direction, I noted that it appeard to be swirling counter clockwise. I can't be sure though.
guidogodoy wrote:
I wanna go to NZ to see if the toilet water swirls in the opposite direction as is often reported.
For those of us who can't make it anytime soon, Becks, do give a flush and full report.
[jimmyjames] Thursday, November 18, 2010 5:46:51 AM
I've never been to the states but in Canada the toilets are filled almost to the top with water so that when you flush it creates a whirlpool effect, In NZ there is only a small amount of water in the bottom of the bowl so the flush is created throuh a large amount of water smashing down on the offending substance, so our toilets rely on just the power of the flush going down, not in any particular direction [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:45:53 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
"which seemed to be going in no particular direction," HAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! Well, THAT is hardly conclusive! LOL!!!
I do appreciate the effort, though. I remember when the Simpsons go to Australia, they had a super-expensive device in the US Embassy to make their toilets flow clockwise so it must be true.
Hey, JJ. Go flush a toilet for us!
Becks wrote:
Just for you Guido, I just went and flushed my toilet for investigative purposes. Amongst all the rushing water, which seemed to be going in no particular direction, I noted that it appeard to be swirling counter clockwise. I can't be sure though.
guidogodoy wrote:
I wanna go to NZ to see if the toilet water swirls in the opposite direction as is often reported.
For those of us who can't make it anytime soon, Becks, do give a flush and full report.
[K2M] Wednesday, November 17, 2010 1:46:05 PM
HeadBanger
[Head banger] Wednesday, November 17, 2010 1:07:35 PM
make sure the ruber ducky isnt paddling, might throw the whole thing off. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:49:07 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Aha! Well that would explain the anomaly (or perhaps standard) I found today: most of my toilets are spinning counter-clockwise. Are the Simpsons making things up? Are there directional outlets making the water spin one direction? If I pour Mobile 1 in the toilet, will it make it flow faster and last longer?
Now I'll have to experiment with the sink. Better yet, the bathtub as it would hold more water. Have to see if the rubber duck spins clockwise or counterclockwise when I drain it.
Head banger wrote:
toilets are different, they are built to spin the water, thus they create direction. a sink, with the water left to stop any motion from filling it, and the plug pulled straight out, thats the key
_strat_ wrote:
Ive decided to take part in this scientific investigation.
I am pleased to report that my toilet flows anti-clokwise. Which is weird, because Im on the northern hemisphere.
There are two options:
a. The whole country has been magicaly transported into the southern hemipshere,
b. The Simpsons are wrong
And becasue, as we know, Simpsons are never wrong, the b option is rubbish, which leaves us with a.
That measn that all the natives of the southern hemisphere will now have to look out for drunk yodlers.
guidogodoy wrote:
"which seemed to be going in no particular direction," HAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! Well, THAT is hardly conclusive! LOL!!!
I do appreciate the effort, though. I remember when the Simpsons go to Australia, they had a super-expensive device in the US Embassy to make their toilets flow clockwise so it must be true.
Hey, JJ. Go flush a toilet for us!
Becks wrote:
Just for you Guido, I just went and flushed my toilet for investigative purposes. Amongst all the rushing water, which seemed to be going in no particular direction, I noted that it appeard to be swirling counter clockwise. I can't be sure though.
guidogodoy wrote:
I wanna go to NZ to see if the toilet water swirls in the opposite direction as is often reported.
For those of us who can't make it anytime soon, Becks, do give a flush and full report.
[Becks] Wednesday, November 17, 2010 12:03:10 PM
LOL! I don't have any cheerios. I will check out the toilet at work and see what happens [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by acolyte55 from Wednesday, November 17, 2010 2:37:04 AM)
acolyte55 wrote:
put a cheerio in the bowl and watch the spin lol
[guidogodoy] Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:49:07 AM
Aha! Well that would explain the anomaly (or perhaps standard) I found today: most of my toilets are spinning counter-clockwise. Are the Simpsons making things up? Are there directional outlets making the water spin one direction? If I pour Mobile 1 in the toilet, will it make it flow faster and last longer?
Now I'll have to experiment with the sink. Better yet, the bathtub as it would hold more water. Have to see if the rubber duck spins clockwise or counterclockwise when I drain it. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Wednesday, November 17, 2010 8:21:17 AM)
Head banger wrote:
toilets are different, they are built to spin the water, thus they create direction. a sink, with the water left to stop any motion from filling it, and the plug pulled straight out, thats the key
_strat_ wrote:
Ive decided to take part in this scientific investigation.
I am pleased to report that my toilet flows anti-clokwise. Which is weird, because Im on the northern hemisphere.
There are two options:
a. The whole country has been magicaly transported into the southern hemipshere,
b. The Simpsons are wrong
And becasue, as we know, Simpsons are never wrong, the b option is rubbish, which leaves us with a.
That measn that all the natives of the southern hemisphere will now have to look out for drunk yodlers.
guidogodoy wrote:
"which seemed to be going in no particular direction," HAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! Well, THAT is hardly conclusive! LOL!!!
I do appreciate the effort, though. I remember when the Simpsons go to Australia, they had a super-expensive device in the US Embassy to make their toilets flow clockwise so it must be true.
Hey, JJ. Go flush a toilet for us!
Becks wrote:
Just for you Guido, I just went and flushed my toilet for investigative purposes. Amongst all the rushing water, which seemed to be going in no particular direction, I noted that it appeard to be swirling counter clockwise. I can't be sure though.
guidogodoy wrote:
I wanna go to NZ to see if the toilet water swirls in the opposite direction as is often reported.
For those of us who can't make it anytime soon, Becks, do give a flush and full report.
[Head banger] Wednesday, November 17, 2010 8:21:17 AM
toilets are different, they are built to spin the water, thus they create direction. a sink, with the water left to stop any motion from filling it, and the plug pulled straight out, thats the key [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by _strat_ from Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:24:08 AM)
_strat_ wrote:
Ive decided to take part in this scientific investigation.
I am pleased to report that my toilet flows anti-clokwise. Which is weird, because Im on the northern hemisphere.
There are two options:
a. The whole country has been magicaly transported into the southern hemipshere,
b. The Simpsons are wrong
And becasue, as we know, Simpsons are never wrong, the b option is rubbish, which leaves us with a.
That measn that all the natives of the southern hemisphere will now have to look out for drunk yodlers.
guidogodoy wrote:
"which seemed to be going in no particular direction," HAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! Well, THAT is hardly conclusive! LOL!!!
I do appreciate the effort, though. I remember when the Simpsons go to Australia, they had a super-expensive device in the US Embassy to make their toilets flow clockwise so it must be true.
Hey, JJ. Go flush a toilet for us!
Becks wrote:
Just for you Guido, I just went and flushed my toilet for investigative purposes. Amongst all the rushing water, which seemed to be going in no particular direction, I noted that it appeard to be swirling counter clockwise. I can't be sure though.
guidogodoy wrote:
I wanna go to NZ to see if the toilet water swirls in the opposite direction as is often reported.
For those of us who can't make it anytime soon, Becks, do give a flush and full report.
[_strat_] Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:24:08 AM
Ive decided to take part in this scientific investigation.
I am pleased to report that my toilet flows anti-clokwise. Which is weird, because Im on the northern hemisphere.
There are two options:
a. The whole country has been magicaly transported into the southern hemipshere,
b. The Simpsons are wrong
And becasue, as we know, Simpsons are never wrong, the b option is rubbish, which leaves us with a.
That measn that all the natives of the southern hemisphere will now have to look out for drunk yodlers. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:45:53 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
"which seemed to be going in no particular direction," HAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! Well, THAT is hardly conclusive! LOL!!!
I do appreciate the effort, though. I remember when the Simpsons go to Australia, they had a super-expensive device in the US Embassy to make their toilets flow clockwise so it must be true.
Hey, JJ. Go flush a toilet for us!
Becks wrote:
Just for you Guido, I just went and flushed my toilet for investigative purposes. Amongst all the rushing water, which seemed to be going in no particular direction, I noted that it appeard to be swirling counter clockwise. I can't be sure though.
guidogodoy wrote:
I wanna go to NZ to see if the toilet water swirls in the opposite direction as is often reported.
For those of us who can't make it anytime soon, Becks, do give a flush and full report.
[acolyte55] Wednesday, November 17, 2010 2:37:04 AM
put a cheerio in the bowl and watch the spin lol
[Becks] Wednesday, November 17, 2010 1:43:52 AM
LOL the toilet cleaning block didn't help cos it made a fair bit of foamy cleaning bubbles which concealed the water. It was just splashing about really LOL!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:45:53 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
"which seemed to be going in no particular direction," HAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! Well, THAT is hardly conclusive! LOL!!!
I do appreciate the effort, though. I remember when the Simpsons go to Australia, they had a super-expensive device in the US Embassy to make their toilets flow clockwise so it must be true.
Hey, JJ. Go flush a toilet for us!
Becks wrote:
Just for you Guido, I just went and flushed my toilet for investigative purposes. Amongst all the rushing water, which seemed to be going in no particular direction, I noted that it appeard to be swirling counter clockwise. I can't be sure though.
guidogodoy wrote:
I wanna go to NZ to see if the toilet water swirls in the opposite direction as is often reported.
For those of us who can't make it anytime soon, Becks, do give a flush and full report.
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:45:53 PM
"which seemed to be going in no particular direction," HAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! Well, THAT is hardly conclusive! LOL!!!
I do appreciate the effort, though. I remember when the Simpsons go to Australia, they had a super-expensive device in the US Embassy to make their toilets flow clockwise so it must be true.
Hey, JJ. Go flush a toilet for us! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, November 16, 2010 10:11:22 PM)
Becks wrote:
Just for you Guido, I just went and flushed my toilet for investigative purposes. Amongst all the rushing water, which seemed to be going in no particular direction, I noted that it appeard to be swirling counter clockwise. I can't be sure though.
guidogodoy wrote:
I wanna go to NZ to see if the toilet water swirls in the opposite direction as is often reported.
For those of us who can't make it anytime soon, Becks, do give a flush and full report.
[Becks] Tuesday, November 16, 2010 10:11:22 PM
Just for you Guido, I just went and flushed my toilet for investigative purposes. Amongst all the rushing water, which seemed to be going in no particular direction, I noted that it appeard to be swirling counter clockwise. I can't be sure though. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, November 16, 2010 7:05:23 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
I wanna go to NZ to see if the toilet water swirls in the opposite direction as is often reported.
For those of us who can't make it anytime soon, Becks, do give a flush and full report.
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, November 16, 2010 7:05:23 PM
I wanna go to NZ to see if the toilet water swirls in the opposite direction as is often reported.
For those of us who can't make it anytime soon, Becks, do give a flush and full report.
[spapad] Tuesday, November 16, 2010 6:56:44 PM
Many of us would love to meet you too as well someday. Hopefully before we are all hobbling on walkers. LOL Now, what did I do with that lotto ticket? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Monday, November 15, 2010 10:09:03 PM)
Becks wrote:
Yes, the world todays children grow up in is even very different from when I grew up in the late 80s and 1990s. And it can be a very scary place. I've not met anyone from this website, but would love to someday.
spapad wrote:
I do dislike not trusting people. For the most part I do. I have met some great people here and would love to meet them at some point in the future. I met up with Guid at a JP concert and we great time, and I got to see Nashville from a "local's" point of view. It was a very enjoyable experience. Except the Pick incident. LOL
I do feel that the world has become much more cautious since the day of the "milk carton kids" That's about the time things started getting more untrustworthy.
It's sad our children are not allowed to grow up the way we did. If they knew how much freedom had been stripped from them they would probably be pretty mad about it. But, we can't trust to dumb luck all will go well anymore, because we no longer live in that cocoon of the leave it to Beaver type neighborhood, we all thought we grew up in. It was a lie then, but we didn't know any better.
Edited at: Monday, November 15, 2010 6:17:47 PM
[Becks] Monday, November 15, 2010 10:09:03 PM
Yes, the world todays children grow up in is even very different from when I grew up in the late 80s and 1990s. And it can be a very scary place. I've not met anyone from this website, but would love to someday. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Monday, November 15, 2010 6:08:27 PM)
spapad wrote:
I do dislike not trusting people. For the most part I do. I have met some great people here and would love to meet them at some point in the future. I met up with Guid at a JP concert and we great time, and I got to see Nashville from a "local's" point of view. It was a very enjoyable experience. Except the Pick incident. LOL
I do feel that the world has become much more cautious since the day of the "milk carton kids" That's about the time things started getting more untrustworthy.
It's sad our children are not allowed to grow up the way we did. If they knew how much freedom had been stripped from them they would probably be pretty mad about it. But, we can't trust to dumb luck all will go well anymore, because we no longer live in that cocoon of the leave it to Beaver type neighborhood, we all thought we grew up in. It was a lie then, but we didn't know any better.
Edited at: Monday, November 15, 2010 6:17:47 PM
[spapad] Monday, November 15, 2010 6:08:27 PM
I do dislike not trusting people. For the most part I do. I have met some great people here and would love to meet them at some point in the future. I met up with Guid at a JP concert and we great time, and I got to see Nashville from a "local's" point of view. It was a very enjoyable experience. Except the Pick incident. LOL
I do feel that the world has become much more cautious since the day of the "milk carton kids" That's about the time things started getting more untrustworthy.
It's sad our children are not allowed to grow up the way we did. If they knew how much freedom had been stripped from them they would probably be pretty mad about it. But, we can't trust to dumb luck all will go well anymore, because we no longer live in that cocoon of the leave it to Beaver type neighborhood, we all thought we grew up in. It was a lie then, but we didn't know any better.
Edited at: Monday, November 15, 2010 6:17:47 PM
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Monday, November 15, 2010 3:54:40 PM
Hmmmm..... that is a very interesting question HB. I think that with all the technology we have today, we hear about things almost instantly. I think just as many bad things happened to people years ago, we just didn't hear about it unless we lived nearby.
My personal philosophy is to trust my instincts about people. When we hire someone new, I know within minutes whether they will be good or not and I've never been wrong or surprised. I can tell right away if something is "off" about someone and I keep my guard up. I make sure that I know my kids friends and parents, so yes they can go over to their friends house. But I would never let them go over and play somewhere if I didn't know the family - better to have the friend come to my house until I meet the parents. I trust people unless I have some feeling that I shouldn't and when I get that feeling I trust it. Always better safe than sorry!
I've met 4 people on this board so far and they have all been FANTASTIC people that I am very proud to know. I hope to meet many more before Priest is through too. I'm hoping we can all get together for a show one day!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, November 15, 2010 2:21:20 PM)
Head banger wrote:
While that is horible, and I often fall into the camp of DTA I think that too much lost trust hurts us all too.
I know that I have met people from the internet (at some obscure site judaspriest.com). I went to DF's house when I was in vegas and had a great time. the guys I was with kidded me about getting killed by some internet psycho, but also kidded me about dating... I survived. I have also met up with QT from this site, that was in a more public space, which makes good sense and it was great to meet her. I would love to meet more people from this site, and think that I would do so, if I could and if reasonable precautions could be worked out (meet in a public area, etc)
I know that in general our lack of trust hurts people today. 2 examples would be, if you pass a broken down car on the side of the highway in the middle of nowhere do people stop and help? not many. can your kids go to a friends house to play in the evening? not often.
sad state of affairs that we are this way, and I wonder, is society more messed up these days, or do things that go badly get spread around more
[Head banger] Monday, November 15, 2010 2:21:20 PM
While that is horible, and I often fall into the camp of DTA I think that too much lost trust hurts us all too.
I know that I have met people from the internet (at some obscure site judaspriest.com). I went to DF's house when I was in vegas and had a great time. the guys I was with kidded me about getting killed by some internet psycho, but also kidded me about dating... I survived. I have also met up with QT from this site, that was in a more public space, which makes good sense and it was great to meet her. I would love to meet more people from this site, and think that I would do so, if I could and if reasonable precautions could be worked out (meet in a public area, etc)
I know that in general our lack of trust hurts people today. 2 examples would be, if you pass a broken down car on the side of the highway in the middle of nowhere do people stop and help? not many. can your kids go to a friends house to play in the evening? not often.
sad state of affairs that we are this way, and I wonder, is society more messed up these days, or do things that go badly get spread around more
[joedraper] Monday, November 15, 2010 12:33:33 AM
Wow! That is horific! Very true though that in this day and age we have to be super careful. If you're meeting someone online, make sure it's in a public place and preferably with someone with you. So sad that someone can do something so evil to a trusting, caring person Spa. I am sorry for your loss and the hurt you must be feeling. I will keep you in my prayers xxx [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, November 14, 2010 5:46:59 PM)
spapad wrote:
God this place is quiet.
Speaking of quiet, I lost a school chum this past week. He was always kind, and I can not imagine him being the victim of violent crime.
Word to the wise, my friends, watch who you make friends with online. His murderer came from New Jersey. He came for a visit and my friend took him to the top of the mountain on October 16th, to show him the view from the overlook there. Last anyone saw of him was at the Wendy's in Bluefield VA, earlier that day. Being that I knew him, I can only assume he took his visiting friend to see the beautiful overlook and was trying to entertain his internet friend.
He was found on October 30 in an old metal storage building which used to be a store many years ago. He had been strangled. The person that found him was a young boy, who only went into the shed to check on things at his grandfather's bequest. So many lives shattered, so much pain involved all because we all are too willing to trust someone, in letters.
I'm a member of the untrust group these days. Measures will always be taken to ensure the safety of myself and loved ones from this kind of event.
[Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, November 14, 2010 11:22:50 PM
Holy Cheese-its, that's horrible! Sorry to hear about your friend, Spa. That's really scary. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, November 14, 2010 5:46:59 PM)
spapad wrote:
God this place is quiet.
Speaking of quiet, I lost a school chum this past week. He was always kind, and I can not imagine him being the victim of violent crime.
Word to the wise, my friends, watch who you make friends with online. His murderer came from New Jersey. He came for a visit and my friend took him to the top of the mountain on October 16th, to show him the view from the overlook there. Last anyone saw of him was at the Wendy's in Bluefield VA, earlier that day. Being that I knew him, I can only assume he took his visiting friend to see the beautiful overlook and was trying to entertain his internet friend.
He was found on October 30 in an old metal storage building which used to be a store many years ago. He had been strangled. The person that found him was a young boy, who only went into the shed to check on things at his grandfather's bequest. So many lives shattered, so much pain involved all because we all are too willing to trust someone, in letters.
I'm a member of the untrust group these days. Measures will always be taken to ensure the safety of myself and loved ones from this kind of event.
[Becks] Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:14:55 PM
Oh my goodness that is absolutely horrific wow, words can't describe how awful that story is. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, November 14, 2010 5:46:59 PM)
spapad wrote:
God this place is quiet.
Speaking of quiet, I lost a school chum this past week. He was always kind, and I can not imagine him being the victim of violent crime.
Word to the wise, my friends, watch who you make friends with online. His murderer came from New Jersey. He came for a visit and my friend took him to the top of the mountain on October 16th, to show him the view from the overlook there. Last anyone saw of him was at the Wendy's in Bluefield VA, earlier that day. Being that I knew him, I can only assume he took his visiting friend to see the beautiful overlook and was trying to entertain his internet friend.
He was found on October 30 in an old metal storage building which used to be a store many years ago. He had been strangled. The person that found him was a young boy, who only went into the shed to check on things at his grandfather's bequest. So many lives shattered, so much pain involved all because we all are too willing to trust someone, in letters.
I'm a member of the untrust group these days. Measures will always be taken to ensure the safety of myself and loved ones from this kind of event.
[spapad] Sunday, November 14, 2010 9:07:00 PM
It is very sad. I by no means wish this post to go against the people I have met here (save one, and we all know who that is) but this is just a cautionary tale, a real one, about what can happen when you meet someone online. Like you said, they can say all the right things and be not what you would expect at all.
I'm very sorry for him. I know his last thoughts must have been full of confusion because he was such a trusting person. It haunts me; what he must have felt.
OMG Spa! How terrible! You just never really know what people are capable of until it is too late. People can pretend to be anything they want online and it's pretty damn scary!
spapad wrote:
God this place is quiet.
Speaking of quiet, I lost a school chum this past week. He was always kind, and I can not imagine him being the victim of violent crime.
Word to the wise, my friends, watch who you make friends with online. His murderer came from New Jersey. He came for a visit and my friend took him to the top of the mountain on October 16th, to show him the view from the overlook there. Last anyone saw of him was at the Wendy's in Bluefield VA, earlier that day. Being that I knew him, I can only assume he took his visiting friend to see the beautiful overlook and was trying to entertain his internet friend.
He was found on October 30 in an old metal storage building which used to be a store many years ago. He had been strangled. The person that found him was a young boy, who only went into the shed to check on things at his grandfather's bequest. So many lives shattered, so much pain involved all because we all are too willing to trust someone, in letters.
I'm a member of the untrust group these days. Measures will always be taken to ensure the safety of myself and loved ones from this kind of event.
Edited at: Sunday, November 14, 2010 9:07:51 PM Edited at: Sunday, November 14, 2010 9:09:05 PM Edited at: Sunday, November 14, 2010 9:23:19 PM
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Sunday, November 14, 2010 8:42:25 PM
OMG Spa! How terrible! You just never really know what people are capable of until it is too late. People can pretend to be anything they want online and it's pretty damn scary! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, November 14, 2010 5:46:59 PM)
spapad wrote:
God this place is quiet.
Speaking of quiet, I lost a school chum this past week. He was always kind, and I can not imagine him being the victim of violent crime.
Word to the wise, my friends, watch who you make friends with online. His murderer came from New Jersey. He came for a visit and my friend took him to the top of the mountain on October 16th, to show him the view from the overlook there. Last anyone saw of him was at the Wendy's in Bluefield VA, earlier that day. Being that I knew him, I can only assume he took his visiting friend to see the beautiful overlook and was trying to entertain his internet friend.
He was found on October 30 in an old metal storage building which used to be a store many years ago. He had been strangled. The person that found him was a young boy, who only went into the shed to check on things at his grandfather's bequest. So many lives shattered, so much pain involved all because we all are too willing to trust someone, in letters.
I'm a member of the untrust group these days. Measures will always be taken to ensure the safety of myself and loved ones from this kind of event.
[guidogodoy] Sunday, November 14, 2010 7:41:17 PM
Yikes. Now there is a horrific tale. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, November 14, 2010 5:46:59 PM)
spapad wrote:
God this place is quiet.
Speaking of quiet, I lost a school chum this past week. He was always kind, and I can not imagine him being the victim of violent crime.
Word to the wise, my friends, watch who you make friends with online. His murderer came from New Jersey. He came for a visit and my friend took him to the top of the mountain on October 16th, to show him the view from the overlook there. Last anyone saw of him was at the Wendy's in Bluefield VA, earlier that day. Being that I knew him, I can only assume he took his visiting friend to see the beautiful overlook and was trying to entertain his internet friend.
He was found on October 30 in an old metal storage building which used to be a store many years ago. He had been strangled. The person that found him was a young boy, who only went into the shed to check on things at his grandfather's bequest. So many lives shattered, so much pain involved all because we all are too willing to trust someone, in letters.
I'm a member of the untrust group these days. Measures will always be taken to ensure the safety of myself and loved ones from this kind of event.
[Necroticist] Sunday, November 14, 2010 5:58:27 PM
Quiet? Yes indeed...in my case is 'cos i'm half asleep...lol - 'witching hour' looms. (Plus i still feel like sh*t).
[spapad] Sunday, November 14, 2010 5:46:59 PM
God this place is quiet.
Speaking of quiet, I lost a school chum this past week. He was always kind, and I can not imagine him being the victim of violent crime.
Word to the wise, my friends, watch who you make friends with online. His murderer came from New Jersey. He came for a visit and my friend took him to the top of the mountain on October 16th, to show him the view from the overlook there. Last anyone saw of him was at the Wendy's in Bluefield VA, earlier that day. Being that I knew him, I can only assume he took his visiting friend to see the beautiful overlook and was trying to entertain his internet friend.
He was found on October 30 in an old metal storage building which used to be a store many years ago. He had been strangled. The person that found him was a young boy, who only went into the shed to check on things at his grandfather's bequest. So many lives shattered, so much pain involved all because we all are too willing to trust someone, in letters.
I'm a member of the untrust group these days. Measures will always be taken to ensure the safety of myself and loved ones from this kind of event.
[Head banger] Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:11:19 AM
we are sort of unique. the union came in about 20 years ago, mostly younger workers then. now most of the workforce is over 65, and most of those are semi retired former managers from other industrys. put that with the fact that we are by a long shot the most conservative, least unionized province in canada, and the fact that in the last negotiation the company offered an increase of 17% where the union asked for 10 (couldnt hire then, now that raise is going to cause issues if we ever get to discuss economics). if any of the employees actualy decided to take interest in the effort to decertify I am sure it would be a quick vote. problem is, they have golf to go to and such. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ron h from Sunday, November 14, 2010 9:27:34 AM)
ron h wrote:
Good morning fellow Metalheads
Budred and Becks, as a former U.S. Marine I thank you!!
Wow! I thought I'd have more time to play but 52 hours at work last week and 64 this week, I'm pooped!! lol No complaints though as the holidays are drawing near and with high unemployment, I thank God every day for my job!!
HB, minimum wage here in the States is $7.55 / hr, though individual States can mandate a higher amount and some do.
I totally agree that theft from the company cannot be ignored!! No excuse for that!! Safety violations are serious as well, but I've learned that every situation is usually unique unto itself and requires a thorough investigation.
As far as workers themselves hating their union, I've never really heard of such a thing. I can understand workers not liking the politics involved or that it's hard for a company to reward good employees because of their contract, or that maybe they've had a bad experience with a rep and feel that they deserved better because that sometimes does happen especially if the rep(s) are not well trained or knowledgeable. Again, most situations are unique unto themselves.
I've found that the rep usually gets a bad rap when something goes wrong because it's easier to be mad at and take frustration out on a co-worker (which a rep is) than to lash out and those in management who wronged them and for obvious reasons, no fear of losing their job that way. A lot of times a worker may have issues that just aren't grieveable regardless of how wronged they feel and because the rep can't do anything about it, they take it out on them.
Spa, yes! Any non-union employer in the statee of Indiana can terminate an employee "at will", and that sucks!! No warning, no just cause!! For this reason alone it pays to be under a union umbrella!!
Time to get out the traveling shoes and hit as many shows as I can this last go `round.
wow, words can't describe how awful that story is.