I know, I should just shrug it off, but it gets to me dammit. You are right though, he will never stop it what drives his exsistence.

Hey Two Cents!!!! Where have you been man? I missed you!!! That Ripper Owens date thread was too funny!! Now go over to J.D. Diamonds house and listen to some Saxon togeather!!! .....rofl!!!! .....rofl!!!! (LMAOATjd diamond)!!!!

		Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!! wrote:
		oooooo boy now i remember why ive strayed away from this website for the last while, that pathetic panzy boy Numeruno. That kid never shuts up and just says everything he can to antagonize Metal God fans. Though i'll disagree with the killing himself shit, i agree with you whole heartedly there JD, Tim owens voice just sounds way to shrill, seriously just doesnt sound good to the ears.

I liked "Jugulator"...there were only 1 or 2 tracks that I didn't care for and Ripper on the Jugulator tour had a heavy metal image......

....what happened to it on the Demolition tour? It may have nothing to do with the  music,but Ripper Owens wearing a fucking 

baseball hat on the Live In London DVD... WTF? lol! I was just thinking to myself....hummm is he going to pitch me a strike or
 
sing some metal? LOL! Totaly "LAME" untraditional image Ripper had with the Demolition tour.  Just that "image" alone ruined it
 
for me and I never got the DVD. And most importantly....the Demolition album was very poor song writting and I do not blame that 

on Ripper...that was Glenn and K.K.  just terrible song writting...Machine Man,One On One,Hell Is Home were all 3 good tracks but 

the other tracks to me are awful and I've listened to them many times trying to get something out of the album but no dice...I absolutely 

can not tolerate "Demolition".  I guess the "baseball hat" image fit with those crappy songs!!!!! lofl!!!

I think you hit the nail on the head there.  only with rob are they something special.  its not rob that makes them special, its the combination.  Rob, Glen, KK and Ian (with many drummers) have proven themselfs to be special.  with tim, they are ok, but its not the same.

		Angelic Storm wrote:
		I would agree with you that Nostradamus isn't classic Priest. Well, some songs I would place in that category, but not the whole album. Priest have always been about pushing the boundaries though, and being unpredictable. And in that sense, Nostradamus IS classic Priest, because it continues in that tradition. I dunno how you can use that as an arguement though, when neither Jugulator or Demolition are classic Priest either. I love both albums, but they are not classic Priest. I am a Priest fangirl, I wouldnt deny that, especially when it comes to Priest with Halford. But I still appreciate the Ripper albums very much. Halford however, is and always will be, the definitive voice of Priest, and only with him in the band are they something truly special.      Numero Uno wrote:   Nostradamus is not classic Judas Priest to the highest extent.  There are very few "TRUE PRIEST FANS" that will agree with you on that. II'm not trying to start anything but its just a fact that Nostradamus is not classic Priest. I'm sure some of the fanboys and girls around here like J.D. Diamond and spapad will come running to the rescue (LOL!)but I would say most fans will disagree with you.    (Quoting Message by B Dharma from Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:57:50 PM)   B Dharma wrote:   You are OBVIOUSLY not a TRUE PRIEST FAN to state these opinions.. ROB HALFORD IS JUDAS PRIEST and NOSTRADAMUS is classic JUDAS PRIEST to the highest extent.. Tim Owens was a sufficient replacement but not an interesting and diverse enough vocalist to carry on the PRIEST tradition.. If you are not enjoying NOSTRADAMUS I feel sorry for you... Tim has great range but IS NOT PRIEST...    (Quoting Message by Numero Uno from Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:15:10 PM)   Numero Uno wrote:   They should have stuck with Ripper. At least for one more CD anyway. I think the third cd with Ripper would have been more traditional Priest sounding Metal. Much better than this Nostradamus stuff. Angel Of Retribution was ok but had a lot of filler material in my opinion. Nothing special.  The cover art is one of their best though.   (Quoting Message by tshoffie from Sunday, August 16, 2009 11:06:35 PM)   tshoffie wrote:   After seeing priest tonight in Tampa  i am starting to think that maybe  they should get Ripper back, i had no problem with his vocals in fact i think he was very good...Rob tonight seemed very very slow  kept his head down all the time when he was singing as if he was reading from a teleprompter..he just didnt seem to have any energy at all..the rest of the band however were like they always have been...also it didnt help that the setlist was very dissappointing as well Edited at: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:18:33 PM Edited at: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:58:25 PM Edited at: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:02:48 PM

This jack-off doesn't care anything about "Ripper Owens".....he is mearly loving "getting a raise" out of everybody in here claiming Ripper is better

than Halford blah blah blah....this guy is a born shit disturber and is only saying this shit to piss people off.    Dude...how many times to I have to

kick your ass in here before you get a fuckin clue?  Jeeze...are you really this dumb guy?  Your posts mean nothing,nobody likes YOU.

		Numero Uno wrote:
		They should have stuck with Ripper. At least for one more CD anyway. I think the third cd with Ripper would have been more traditional Priest sounding Metal. Much better than this Nostradamus stuff. Angel Of Retribution was ok but had a lot of filler material in my opinion. Nothing special.  The cover art is one of their best though.   (Quoting Message by tshoffie from Sunday, August 16, 2009 11:06:35 PM)   tshoffie wrote:   After seeing priest tonight in Tampa  i am starting to think that maybe  they should get Ripper back, i had no problem with his vocals in fact i think he was very good...Rob tonight seemed very very slow  kept his head down all the time when he was singing as if he was reading from a teleprompter..he just didnt seem to have any energy at all..the rest of the band however were like they always have been...also it didnt help that the setlist was very dissappointing as well Edited at: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:18:33 PM

Hey tshoffie and Prowlercub.....look,we are not "fanboys" in here at all...so lets clear that up right now and not saying that you are calling us fanboys....

But you have to understand the toll a tour is doing to Priest....they have been on tour for about a year now and it takes it's toll on each individual differently.

For Bruce Dickinson...he may well be able to jump around stage the entire tour,but for Rob I have seen a pattern develope with everybody's posts that see Priest live.

I'm not saying that you must enjoy watching Rob's lack of stage presence(for you)..but just be aware that he does care and he is   "into it"......he is simply "tired". Thats all.

But to wish for Ripper Owens back in the band? I have to let you have your opinion but I wish I could tell you how much better a Rob Halford thats been on tour for a year

is than a Ripper Owens that hasn't began a tour yet.........Rob is that much superior than Tim...it is just a "fact" not an opinion.    LOL!

maybe THE METAL GOD was coming down with a cold or something or was just having a bad day we all have thous .no offence but did you ever think of that.give the guy a break.

		ProwlerCub wrote:
		Finally someone agrees with me.  The set was way too short for missing a band from the bill.  Maybe Rob should start working with Bruce Dickinson on working the stage or wear a bit less leather.  Did you feel there was very little interaction with the crowd?  It seemed to me it was just going thru the motions with song, song, song, oxygen break, song, song, etc.      tshoffie wrote: After seeing priest tonight in Tampa  i am starting to think that maybe  they should get Ripper back, i had no problem with his vocals in fact i think he was very good...Rob tonight seemed very very slow  kept his head down all the time when he was singing as if he was reading from a teleprompter..he just didnt seem to have any energy at all..the rest of the band however were like they always have been...also it didnt help that the setlist was very dissappointing as well