| [Head banger] Friday, April 17, 2009 7:42:54 AM | |
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there are those who truly love everything the band does. great fans
there are those who like a lot of what the band does, great fans
there are those who talk as though the band can do no wrong. not sure what they are. fanboys, starstruck, deaf???
a fan has the right to like of not like the album as they chose. I wont buy the album if they read their grocery list. I dont like nost, I like turbo though. we are all different, and will all voice our opinions. those who say that we cant say negative things, are wrong.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, April 17, 2009 4:59:48 AM)| |  | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Yeah hellrider,I'm with ya!!! If I did'nt bash the band alittle than I'm nothing more than a "fan-boy" who says everything Priest does is 100% awsome regarless of what it is.
There are fans that would even like a Priest album even if it sounded like Green Day...I am not one of those fans..I want the best out of Judas Priest and the best is what they do "best'....
hard screaming heavy metal is the word here hellrider,you got it down my friend!!!
| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | i hope and prey its in the vien of the mighty paaaaaaaainkillllllllller.hard core,fast,screaming,bashing metal.HELL YEAH MY FRIEND
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH (HALFORD METAL GOD SCREAM
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I seriously hope that Judas Priest return to thier heavy metal "roots" on the next album.....if there is going to be a "next album"? If they do decide to record again,I hope it is in the vien of Angel Of Retribution.Nostradamus was to experimental,and way to long,very un-Priest-like.Say what you will,say you like the Nostradamus album,say that its the best...blah blah blah blah....it is not Judas Priest,and its not Judas Priest at thier best.
Over an hour and a half of soft,ballad-like tracks was not my idea of fun when I listened to this LP.
Sad,bummed out and confused is more what I felt. Everybody has an opinion and mine is not "valid" to say that mine is right,but what I can say is that the Nostradamus album was not "Judas Priest's style". For the life of me I can't understand why this band feels the need to "do something different"? If they do not like thier original style/sound anymore,than maybe the band should think about hanging up the leathers and playing golf from here on out,that would be fine by me.I would rather see them retire than keep putting out albums like the experimental Demolition and Nostradamus. |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 17, 2009 4:59:48 AM | |
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Yeah hellrider,I'm with ya!!! If I did'nt bash the band alittle than I'm nothing more than a "fan-boy" who says everything Priest does is 100% awsome regarless of what it is.
There are fans that would even like a Priest album even if it sounded like Green Day...I am not one of those fans..I want the best out of Judas Priest and the best is what they do "best'....
hard screaming heavy metal is the word here hellrider,you got it down my friend!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:56:27 PM)| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | i hope and prey its in the vien of the mighty paaaaaaaainkillllllllller.hard core,fast,screaming,bashing metal.HELL YEAH MY FRIEND
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH (HALFORD METAL GOD SCREAM
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I seriously hope that Judas Priest return to thier heavy metal "roots" on the next album.....if there is going to be a "next album"? If they do decide to record again,I hope it is in the vien of Angel Of Retribution.Nostradamus was to experimental,and way to long,very un-Priest-like.Say what you will,say you like the Nostradamus album,say that its the best...blah blah blah blah....it is not Judas Priest,and its not Judas Priest at thier best.
Over an hour and a half of soft,ballad-like tracks was not my idea of fun when I listened to this LP.
Sad,bummed out and confused is more what I felt. Everybody has an opinion and mine is not "valid" to say that mine is right,but what I can say is that the Nostradamus album was not "Judas Priest's style". For the life of me I can't understand why this band feels the need to "do something different"? If they do not like thier original style/sound anymore,than maybe the band should think about hanging up the leathers and playing golf from here on out,that would be fine by me.I would rather see them retire than keep putting out albums like the experimental Demolition and Nostradamus. |
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| [hellrider 31038] Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:56:27 PM | |
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i hope and prey its in the vien of the mighty paaaaaaaainkillllllllller.hard core,fast,screaming,bashing metal.HELL YEAH MY FRIEND
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH (HALFORD METAL GOD SCREAM
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:06:08 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I seriously hope that Judas Priest return to thier heavy metal "roots" on the next album.....if there is going to be a "next album"? If they do decide to record again,I hope it is in the vien of Angel Of Retribution.Nostradamus was to experimental,and way to long,very un-Priest-like.Say what you will,say you like the Nostradamus album,say that its the best...blah blah blah blah....it is not Judas Priest,and its not Judas Priest at thier best.
Over an hour and a half of soft,ballad-like tracks was not my idea of fun when I listened to this LP.
Sad,bummed out and confused is more what I felt. Everybody has an opinion and mine is not "valid" to say that mine is right,but what I can say is that the Nostradamus album was not "Judas Priest's style". For the life of me I can't understand why this band feels the need to "do something different"? If they do not like thier original style/sound anymore,than maybe the band should think about hanging up the leathers and playing golf from here on out,that would be fine by me.I would rather see them retire than keep putting out albums like the experimental Demolition and Nostradamus. |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:06:08 PM | |
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I seriously hope that Judas Priest return to thier heavy metal "roots" on the next album.....if there is going to be a "next album"? If they do decide to record again,I hope it is in the vien of Angel Of Retribution.Nostradamus was to experimental,and way to long,very un-Priest-like.Say what you will,say you like the Nostradamus album,say that its the best...blah blah blah blah....it is not Judas Priest,and its not Judas Priest at thier best.
Over an hour and a half of soft,ballad-like tracks was not my idea of fun when I listened to this LP.
Sad,bummed out and confused is more what I felt. Everybody has an opinion and mine is not "valid" to say that mine is right,but what I can say is that the Nostradamus album was not "Judas Priest's style". For the life of me I can't understand why this band feels the need to "do something different"? If they do not like thier original style/sound anymore,than maybe the band should think about hanging up the leathers and playing golf from here on out,that would be fine by me.I would rather see them retire than keep putting out albums like the experimental Demolition and Nostradamus. |
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| [Head banger] Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:35:20 PM | |
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winged death?
death on a stick
Rocket to hell? nah, beter album name?
pick some poisonous animal? dunno, lots have been used?
Viper perhaps, get the agression, and you can think of the car to inspire speed.
once you get some stuff together post it for us.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:30:35 PM)| | | icecreamman wrote: | | We kind of have a thrash sound,but more Priest than Slayer. Like if Megadeth covered Painkiller.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | more details on style would help.
how about bronze cross?
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| [icecreamman] Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:30:35 PM | |
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We kind of have a thrash sound,but more Priest than Slayer. Like if Megadeth covered Painkiller.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:28:33 PM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | more details on style would help.
how about bronze cross?
| | | icecreamman wrote: | | | Hmmm, guuys I know this is off topic but..... I am starting a band, a metal band. I need a name. ANY SUGGESTIONS? |
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| [Head banger] Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:28:33 PM | |
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more details on style would help.
how about bronze cross?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:27:16 PM)| | | icecreamman wrote: | | | Hmmm, guuys I know this is off topic but..... I am starting a band, a metal band. I need a name. ANY SUGGESTIONS? |
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| [icecreamman] Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:27:16 PM | |
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| Hmmm, guuys I know this is off topic but..... I am starting a band, a metal band. I need a name. ANY SUGGESTIONS? |
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| [\m/ Metal Maniac \m/] Saturday, March 07, 2009 3:02:26 PM | |
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Admittedly the only thing reminiscent of 70's Priest I found was the tempo change in Death. Other than that, nothing. Don't get me wrong, I love Nostradamus and while some complain that it's too different, I actually find that a good thing, not a detriment. At the very least they're not continually resting on their laurels album after album... that's what we have the wannabes for (just about every power metal band who wishes to emulate Painkiller every time). However, when the tour and all that is over they should know when it's time to put the thing to rest (a common mistake that many bands make, it's been ten years and Iced Earth still hasn't given up on the Something Wicked thing, as much as I love those guys).
I'd be curious to know what it would sound like if they did at least ONE true thrash song, complete with the triplets and thrash beats and all that... hell, even a breakdown or two. With Halford's highs and the awesome twin leads I could see it being a fucking amazing tune.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:00:40 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Yah I think that it would be non valid if they tried to actually make a "thrash" album,but I know what Metal Maniac means....I would be happy with another LP like Angel Of Retribution but with more tracks like Demonizer/Hellrider/Judas Rising/Wheels Of Fire and Deal With The Devil. I think that Nostadamus went a little to far outside the Judas Priest ball park.Yes its different but at the same time it leaves you craving the traditional Judas Priest sound which Nostradamus does not have at all.Some say that it has a 70's styled JP sound but I can just not hear that in Nostradamus at all.I really think that the band went off the track to far this time.K.K. is the mastermind behind this entire project and maybe he dipped into my pot stash?? lol!! no? lol!
| | | Bazooka Joe wrote: | | I'd definitly be up for that. Priest never really had a thrash album haha. Painkiller could slightly (barely) fall into that category I guess but Priest are a melodic band. There isn't really a lot of melody in your typical thrash song.
Hell, if they churned out Nostradamus 2 I wouldn't be complaining haha. There damn good at slow songs and fast songs.
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, March 06, 2009 5:22:42 PM | |
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Yeah I know your right, but I still can't stand Turbo. lol! I'm not here to convince you of not liking it,its just that its like food....my taste buds can't handle Turbo...I just spit it out each time! What bothers me is that Priest experiments from time to time(Turbo/Demolition/Nostradamus)and takes sooooooooo long to record another album.I understand they tour,ect..ect..and have certain obligations but they leave traditional long time Judas Priest fans waiting for another "normal" type of Judas Priest album and it sucks waiting that long. Even with Ripper Owens...they release Jugulator in 1997 and wait 4 long years only to put out the less than average experimental album"Demolition".
Then of course Rob comes back which takes a couple years to sort things out(4 years)and they put out the excellent LP "Angel Of Retribution"....only to wait another 3 years to release once again an "experimental" album(Nostradamus).Now with the band at around the ages of about 60 years old....do we have to wait another 5 years for the next(possibly the last)Judas Priest album? I hope not. I do hope that thier next album is not "experimental". Different is not better in almost every case.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:12:56 PM)| | | icecreamman wrote: | | Well thats your opinion and mine personally is the direct opposite. I love Demolition, it is another great Priest album. But everyone has different Ideas and opinions and that is what makes music so great. 10 people can listen to a song and get 10 different opinions about it.
I would like to see more of a classic metal album from Priest. Fast, not too thrashy with duel guitar solos.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I think Reckless is the only worthy Judas Priest song on Turbo. Out In The Cold and Wild Nights I hear people that like these tracks and I guess I can see why but the other 6 songs on this LP totally suck. The entire side one of this album sucks.This is Judas Priest at thier worst. They were selfish for creating this burdon.Demolition was a tiny bit better but not much. Turbo,Demolition and Nostradamus are JP's 3 worst albums in the band's career by far in my opinion.
I was 16 when Turbo was released and I about cried!! For 2 years after this album was released Priest were the laughing stock of heavy metal sellin out for MTV untill they released the mediocre Ram It Down which was at least better than turbo. I hate Turbo,it brings back bad memories for me and pisses me off each time I hear it which thankfully is not that often!
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I have to admit it is not my favorite Priest album, but I am 17 and most of JP's music was made before I excisted, and Turbo to me is a good album. I think a lot of Priest fans were alienated during that time period, to alienated to appreciate the album. Its like Nosrtadomus, you have to excpect something different. Both are great albums. Its a funny story that the 1st JP album I ever heard was British Steel, it was one of my Dads old records, and then I found Turbo which was on Cassette. I loved British Steel, and still do; but when I put in Turbo I remember thinking WTF? I just did not know what to think. I think that most Priest fans felt that way, and I understand. I just wish the critics would actually admire that Priest are a band who are constantly changing thier sound. I also wish JP would play Reckless live, it is a great song.
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| [icecreamman] Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:12:56 PM | |
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Well thats your opinion and mine personally is the direct opposite. I love Demolition, it is another great Priest album. But everyone has different Ideas and opinions and that is what makes music so great. 10 people can listen to a song and get 10 different opinions about it.
I would like to see more of a classic metal album from Priest. Fast, not too thrashy with duel guitar solos.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:10:03 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I think Reckless is the only worthy Judas Priest song on Turbo. Out In The Cold and Wild Nights I hear people that like these tracks and I guess I can see why but the other 6 songs on this LP totally suck. The entire side one of this album sucks.This is Judas Priest at thier worst. They were selfish for creating this burdon.Demolition was a tiny bit better but not much. Turbo,Demolition and Nostradamus are JP's 3 worst albums in the band's career by far in my opinion.
I was 16 when Turbo was released and I about cried!! For 2 years after this album was released Priest were the laughing stock of heavy metal sellin out for MTV untill they released the mediocre Ram It Down which was at least better than turbo. I hate Turbo,it brings back bad memories for me and pisses me off each time I hear it which thankfully is not that often!
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I have to admit it is not my favorite Priest album, but I am 17 and most of JP's music was made before I excisted, and Turbo to me is a good album. I think a lot of Priest fans were alienated during that time period, to alienated to appreciate the album. Its like Nosrtadomus, you have to excpect something different. Both are great albums. Its a funny story that the 1st JP album I ever heard was British Steel, it was one of my Dads old records, and then I found Turbo which was on Cassette. I loved British Steel, and still do; but when I put in Turbo I remember thinking WTF? I just did not know what to think. I think that most Priest fans felt that way, and I understand. I just wish the critics would actually admire that Priest are a band who are constantly changing thier sound. I also wish JP would play Reckless live, it is a great song.
By the way, I own all the Priest albums now, and I love them all. |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:10:03 PM | |
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I think Reckless is the only worthy Judas Priest song on Turbo. Out In The Cold and Wild Nights I hear people that like these tracks and I guess I can see why but the other 6 songs on this LP totally suck. The entire side one of this album sucks.This is Judas Priest at thier worst. They were selfish for creating this burdon.Demolition was a tiny bit better but not much. Turbo,Demolition and Nostradamus are JP's 3 worst albums in the band's career by far in my opinion.
I was 16 when Turbo was released and I about cried!! For 2 years after this album was released Priest were the laughing stock of heavy metal sellin out for MTV untill they released the mediocre Ram It Down which was at least better than turbo. I hate Turbo,it brings back bad memories for me and pisses me off each time I hear it which thankfully is not that often!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:40:38 PM)
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I have to admit it is not my favorite Priest album, but I am 17 and most of JP's music was made before I excisted, and Turbo to me is a good album. I think a lot of Priest fans were alienated during that time period, to alienated to appreciate the album. Its like Nosrtadomus, you have to excpect something different. Both are great albums. Its a funny story that the 1st JP album I ever heard was British Steel, it was one of my Dads old records, and then I found Turbo which was on Cassette. I loved British Steel, and still do; but when I put in Turbo I remember thinking WTF? I just did not know what to think. I think that most Priest fans felt that way, and I understand. I just wish the critics would actually admire that Priest are a band who are constantly changing thier sound. I also wish JP would play Reckless live, it is a great song.
By the way, I own all the Priest albums now, and I love them all. |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:00:40 PM | |
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Yah I think that it would be non valid if they tried to actually make a "thrash" album,but I know what Metal Maniac means....I would be happy with another LP like Angel Of Retribution but with more tracks like Demonizer/Hellrider/Judas Rising/Wheels Of Fire and Deal With The Devil. I think that Nostadamus went a little to far outside the Judas Priest ball park.Yes its different but at the same time it leaves you craving the traditional Judas Priest sound which Nostradamus does not have at all.Some say that it has a 70's styled JP sound but I can just not hear that in Nostradamus at all.I really think that the band went off the track to far this time.K.K. is the mastermind behind this entire project and maybe he dipped into my pot stash?? lol!! no? lol!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Wednesday, March 04, 2009 11:09:42 AM)| | | Bazooka Joe wrote: | | I'd definitly be up for that. Priest never really had a thrash album haha. Painkiller could slightly (barely) fall into that category I guess but Priest are a melodic band. There isn't really a lot of melody in your typical thrash song.
Hell, if they churned out Nostradamus 2 I wouldn't be complaining haha. There damn good at slow songs and fast songs.
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| [Bazookajoe_666] Wednesday, March 04, 2009 11:09:42 AM | |
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I'd definitly be up for that. Priest never really had a thrash album haha. Painkiller could slightly (barely) fall into that category I guess but Priest are a melodic band. There isn't really a lot of melody in your typical thrash song.
Hell, if they churned out Nostradamus 2 I wouldn't be complaining haha. There damn good at slow songs and fast songs.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by \m/ Metal Maniac \m/ from Friday, February 27, 2009 4:55:23 PM)| | | \m/ Metal Maniac \m/ wrote: | | | I think they should do a re-recordings album, then do one last album as heavy and as thrashy as they could possibly get... then retire. |
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| [Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:44:20 AM | |
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Yeah...I agree with you Soy. I'd rather see my metal heroes go out on top, then be like say...Kiss and tour with only half the original members just because.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN from Friday, February 27, 2009 5:13:49 PM)| | | Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote: | | THAT I AGREE WITH...A HELL BENT,BRITISH STEEL-BREAKING,DEFENDERS-SCREAMING,
PAINKILLER-STYLE,TOUR DE FORCE OF AN ALBUM!...WITH A FOLLOW-UP WORLDWIDE FAREWELL TOUR....TO FINISH THE LEGACY I HAVE GROWN TO LOVE SINCE 1977...THEN SIT BACK AND SMELL THE ROSES,THEY HAVE EARNED IT...   I HAVE A GUT FEELING THAT'S THE PLAN IN THE NEAR FUTURE...AND THE WAY IT SHOULD END:
HEAVY METAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!!!  
| | | \m/ Metal Maniac \m/ wrote: | | | I think they should do a re-recordings album, then do one last album as heavy and as thrashy as they could possibly get... then retire. |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:40:00 AM | |
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I agree Soylentgreen and Metal Maniac!!!!!!! Give us one more spike to chew on!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN from Friday, February 27, 2009 5:13:49 PM)| | | Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote: | | THAT I AGREE WITH...A HELL BENT,BRITISH STEEL-BREAKING,DEFENDERS-SCREAMING,
PAINKILLER-STYLE,TOUR DE FORCE OF AN ALBUM!...WITH A FOLLOW-UP WORLDWIDE FAREWELL TOUR....TO FINISH THE LEGACY I HAVE GROWN TO LOVE SINCE 1977...THEN SIT BACK AND SMELL THE ROSES,THEY HAVE EARNED IT... I HAVE A GUT FEELING THAT'S THE PLAN IN THE NEAR FUTURE...AND THE WAY IT SHOULD END:
HEAVY METAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!!!
| | | \m/ Metal Maniac \m/ wrote: | | | I think they should do a re-recordings album, then do one last album as heavy and as thrashy as they could possibly get... then retire. |
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THAT I AGREE WITH...A HELL BENT,BRITISH STEEL-BREAKING,DEFENDERS-SCREAMING,
PAINKILLER-STYLE,TOUR DE FORCE OF AN ALBUM!...WITH A FOLLOW-UP WORLDWIDE FAREWELL TOUR....TO FINISH THE LEGACY I HAVE GROWN TO LOVE SINCE 1977...THEN SIT BACK AND SMELL THE ROSES,THEY HAVE EARNED IT... I HAVE A GUT FEELING THAT'S THE PLAN IN THE NEAR FUTURE...AND THE WAY IT SHOULD END:
HEAVY METAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by \m/ Metal Maniac \m/ from Friday, February 27, 2009 4:55:23 PM)| | | \m/ Metal Maniac \m/ wrote: | | | I think they should do a re-recordings album, then do one last album as heavy and as thrashy as they could possibly get... then retire. |
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| [icecreamman] Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:33:35 PM | |
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I was not talking about you dissing Ram It Down, I was just saying Priest fans in general. Anyway this is an interview from Blabbermouth with Rob from Jan 2008. It makes me wonder, what happened?
Metal-Rules.com: When JUDAS PRIEST does get out on the road again, is there any chance that any material from the two albums that you weren't on — "Jugulator" and "Demolition" — will be performed live?
Halford: Yeah and I've said this before that those two records are as important in the PRIEST world as everything else. Glenn, K.K. and I have talked about this and I'd welcome it. I think it would be an exciting moment for me to cover the tracks that my mate Tim ["Ripper" Owens] worked on while he was with the band. So again, anything is possible. Each time when we put a set list together, it gets increasingly difficult because we've got so many songs from so many records that we just have to look at the set list and figure out what the favorites are and go from there. Again, PRIEST fans around the world are always putting ideas upon what they'd like to hear us do, but I think it would be kind of fresh to pick maybe one or two tracks from both of those records and just give it the Metal God touch.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by JT_Small_Deadly_Space from Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:06:25 AM)| | | JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote: | | I agree mate i always wanted to know why they never played any Ripper Material with Halford i mean after all tracks like, One on One, Hell is Home, Burn in Hell, Cathedral Spires and Bullet Train are fantastic tracks it aint as if he wrote the songs lol. I know what you mean about experimentation, KK should go back to the solo's like Sinner and Victim of Changes and Glenn could stick to his beautifully written melodic solo's like Beyond the Realms of Death and Touch of Evil. As for Turbo, i love the album, the first half is a fantastic array of tracks i mean Out in the Cold is an absolute masterpiece in my opinion and Locked in is one of my all time favourites. If you can't headbang to Private property there is something wrong with you lol and Rock you all around the world has some killer riffage! As for Ram it Down i think people would love it more if it was Holland playing all of the tracks. they even played the title track live on the RID tour and yet on the album they used a drum machine cause you can tell by the sound. Hard as Iron remains one of my favourite tracks to this day definately the best on the album. I think Love Zone and Blood Red Skies are awesome too but the solos in the title track i have to agree can't be any better, some of the best guitar work i have ever heard them do and Halford's screams literally perforate your ear drums absolute class. I wasn't dissing RID i was just merely stating that was when i was born and stating that unfortunately i never saw them live in the 80's. I love the two Ripper albums dearly and Sin after Sin, POE has 5 great tracks on which are, Heading out to the Highway, Hot Rockin', Desert Plains, Solar Angels and You Say Yes. The rest are ok but those tracks i love. I do need to listen to Sin after Sin more though i reckon!
| | | icecreamman wrote: | | Yeah the Ripper albums do not get the respcet they deserve, oh well. Scott is the best drummer hands down. Holland does not even compare.
I would like to see some "experimentation" on the next album. In other words, I want KK to whip out the wah-wah pedal, He used in the 70's and on the Ripper albums. I am just sayin it would be cool.
I would love to see some of the Tim Owens material performed live also, a Halford style Bullett Train could not be that bad. I think it would be Great.
Recently I have been listening to some Priest albums that get pushed to the side most of the time. Turbo, Point of Entry, Jugalator, Demolition, Sin after Sin, and Ram It Down. They are all great albums, but the most under rated album has to be Ram it Down. I know that Ram It Down is regarded as one of the worst Priest albums, but thats being compared to other Priest albums. That is some stiff competition if you ask me. Ram it Down is truly a hidden treasure. Yeah it has a drum machine, yes some of the lyrics arent that great, BUT Rob's vocals are perfect here, the guitar work could not get any better. Listen to the song Ram It Down, the solo is just killer. Hard as Iron is another great. I am just saying that those who diss Ram it Down need to take another listen, (Quoting Message by JT_Small_Deadly_Space from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:27:22 AM)
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I agree mate i always wanted to know why they never played any Ripper Material with Halford i mean after all tracks like, One on One, Hell is Home, Burn in Hell, Cathedral Spires and Bullet Train are fantastic tracks it aint as if he wrote the songs lol. I know what you mean about experimentation, KK should go back to the solo's like Sinner and Victim of Changes and Glenn could stick to his beautifully written melodic solo's like Beyond the Realms of Death and Touch of Evil. As for Turbo, i love the album, the first half is a fantastic array of tracks i mean Out in the Cold is an absolute masterpiece in my opinion and Locked in is one of my all time favourites. If you can't headbang to Private property there is something wrong with you lol and Rock you all around the world has some killer riffage! As for Ram it Down i think people would love it more if it was Holland playing all of the tracks. they even played the title track live on the RID tour and yet on the album they used a drum machine cause you can tell by the sound. Hard as Iron remains one of my favourite tracks to this day definately the best on the album. I think Love Zone and Blood Red Skies are awesome too but the solos in the title track i have to agree can't be any better, some of the best guitar work i have ever heard them do and Halford's screams literally perforate your ear drums absolute class. I wasn't dissing RID i was just merely stating that was when i was born and stating that unfortunately i never saw them live in the 80's. I love the two Ripper albums dearly and Sin after Sin, POE has 5 great tracks on which are, Heading out to the Highway, Hot Rockin', Desert Plains, Solar Angels and You Say Yes. The rest are ok but those tracks i love. I do need to listen to Sin after Sin more though i reckon!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 4:47:58 PM)
| | | icecreamman wrote: | | Yeah the Ripper albums do not get the respcet they deserve, oh well. Scott is the best drummer hands down. Holland does not even compare.
I would like to see some "experimentation" on the next album. In other words, I want KK to whip out the wah-wah pedal, He used in the 70's and on the Ripper albums. I am just sayin it would be cool.
I would love to see some of the Tim Owens material performed live also, a Halford style Bullett Train could not be that bad. I think it would be Great.
Recently I have been listening to some Priest albums that get pushed to the side most of the time. Turbo, Point of Entry, Jugalator, Demolition, Sin after Sin, and Ram It Down. They are all great albums, but the most under rated album has to be Ram it Down. I know that Ram It Down is regarded as one of the worst Priest albums, but thats being compared to other Priest albums. That is some stiff competition if you ask me. Ram it Down is truly a hidden treasure. Yeah it has a drum machine, yes some of the lyrics arent that great, BUT Rob's vocals are perfect here, the guitar work could not get any better. Listen to the song Ram It Down, the solo is just killer. Hard as Iron is another great. I am just saying that those who diss Ram it Down need to take another listen, (Quoting Message by JT_Small_Deadly_Space from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:27:22 AM)
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Yeah the Ripper albums do not get the respcet they deserve, oh well. Scott is the best drummer hands down. Holland does not even compare.
I would like to see some "experimentation" on the next album. In other words, I want KK to whip out the wah-wah pedal, He used in the 70's and on the Ripper albums. I am just sayin it would be cool.
I would love to see some of the Tim Owens material performed live also, a Halford style Bullett Train could not be that bad. I think it would be Great.
Recently I have been listening to some Priest albums that get pushed to the side most of the time. Turbo, Point of Entry, Jugalator, Demolition, Sin after Sin, and Ram It Down. They are all great albums, but the most under rated album has to be Ram it Down. I know that Ram It Down is regarded as one of the worst Priest albums, but thats being compared to other Priest albums. That is some stiff competition if you ask me. Ram it Down is truly a hidden treasure. Yeah it has a drum machine, yes some of the lyrics arent that great, BUT Rob's vocals are perfect here, the guitar work could not get any better. Listen to the song Ram It Down, the solo is just killer. Hard as Iron is another great. I am just saying that those who diss Ram it Down need to take another listen, [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by JT_Small_Deadly_Space from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:27:22 AM)
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| On the topic of the next studio album, something with the ferocity of Jugulator and Painkiller please maybe some death metal growls in their Sir Halford as i heard him doing them at Priest Feast along with some trademark screams. Something with some awesome heavy-ass drumming but back to more melodic solo's, more memorable occasions such as, Beyond the Realms of Death, Rock Hard Ride Free, Touch of Evil and Demonizer. I know its hard to put them all together but thats what i need from Priest right now. Maybe some cool bass fills from Ian too let him ring out more like on Abductors, One on One and Metal Messiah! |
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I might not know all of the tech spec but i know enough to get me by. Yes i am a drummer and on skill level and being fun to watch Scott does it for me over Holland. Na i never saw Priest back in the 80's unfortunately i was born when they released ram it Down and the only concerts i saw featuring Holland were Live Vengeance and Turbo on the Electric Eye DVD. As for not much else after Painkiller, Jugulator is by far the best drumming album for Scott and he shows his real talent here fair enough Halford wasn't with the band but the other 4 were and i still love the music produced in the Ripper years. If i had to pick an individual track i would say that Bullet Train is his best drumming performance with Priest or definately near the top. AOR was a fantastic album for drumming, the drumbeat for Revolution alone was hands down the most creative beat i've ever heard from any Priest drummer. Judas is Rising, Deal with the Devil, Demonizer and Hell-rider are all great drum tracks too. Nostradamus i agree his drumming isn't the most creative but i guess it's what fits although there are some exceptions, Persecution, Pestilence and Plague, Conquest, prophecy and Nostradamus are great tracks for drums even if not the most complicated but fun to play. Yeah Scott has a lot of stage presence behind the kit and he's always flowing and loose rather than being stiff. As for no detail and leaving out intricate parts of songs done by Holland, could you please give a few examples? I'm not attacking here i just want to see what you mean and i'll tell you if i agree.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Maple Syrup from Friday, February 13, 2009 10:19:20 AM)| | | Maple Syrup wrote: | | JT: Are you a drummer too? You seem to know alot about drums (drum specs wow..) in general and about the "big hard rock sound" from the 80's. You also mention the studio too...(like you know). All Im saying is Travis plays the older material with no detail and leaves out the intricate parts of the songs. Did you see Holland w/ JP live in your day or are you going off your SFV video? Also stage presence behind what? the drums?
Also, Travis has been criticized (sp?) on the last 2 JP releases: AOR & NSTRDMS "of mailing it in" in the studio on his drum playing...I'll give you Painkiller but after that....not much
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| | | JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote: | | Oh man please, Holland was a great time keeper and all but he had as much stage presence as a wet fart. As for having the thump, that was down to the drum specs alone, back in the 80's kits were made with larger and deeper sized toms for a more hard rock feel, hence the intense sound of the kit on albums such as Screaming for Vengeance and Defenders of the Faith. Travis uses a kit more for modern metal with a clean cut sound but is not as deep. His toms are way smaller and he uses a much smaller kit than what Holland did. But Travis plays with way more power i mean have you seen the size of him? and if you disagree, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q794_DEWOuE) should prove that point. I agree sometimes he looks bored but its because he is used to challenging himself with technical drumming from the likes of Racer X, Painkiller and Angel of Retribution. He still entertains the crowd massively with such stunts as stick throwing.. and catching, stick twirling, hand switching on some songs and interacting with the crowd. His double bass work is flawless for what he does and it puts him light years ahead of Holland. At least he manages to play songs from the Simon Philips/ Les Binks era correctly as Holland failed miserably at that i mean listen to Sinner and Victim of Changes from the Live Vengeance 82 DVD (i know Les didn't record on Sad Wings od Destiny but his version is much better than Alan Moore's) which Scott plays perfectly.
Long live Scott and the rest of the metal Gods!
| | | Maple Syrup wrote: | | ICM: Slow down on the what Priest could have been with Travis in the 80's thing. Holland was much more fluid and detailed than Travis. Listen to Travis play any of the Pre-Painkiller stuff and he does not have the thump nor does he play the parts with the same intensity as Holland. The Ripper, Desert Plains etc.. I'll take Holland anyday on the old stuff. Travis is all dry run sounding without the parts. Even when they did Devils Child on this past tour, Travis played it with no emotion like he has somewhere to go.. Do not compare the ERA's please!
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That's the beauty of Priest they never stay the same. They always change it up and you never know what to expect, the only thing you can largely rest assured of is it will be well worth buying and listening to for hours on end!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Monday, February 23, 2009 4:30:12 PM)| | | icecreamman wrote: | | I was listening today while driving. It is a fantastic driving album. Solar Angles and driving go better than oreos and milk!!!
Okay okay, that went a little too far.
Also White heat, red hot is awsome. I have not heard it in forever. Today I have listened to several Priest albums ( As you can tell ) and I have no fricken clue what they will do next.
| | | icecreamman wrote: | |  I agree Piont of Entry is much greater than it is given credit for. I really do like all the albums. Ram it Down is another hidden treasure too, it is one of Robs best vocal performances, despite the less than stellar lyrics.
I have never seen JP live. I had tickets to see them in VA, but I had some helth issues at the time and was unable to attend. I would kill to see them live.
Heres a story for you, my girlfriend hated metal. Let me repeat HATED METAL. I let her borrow Angel of Retribution and Demolition and now she loves metal, mostly Priest and Megadeth. It is sad that my generations idea of metal is bands like Slipknot and Korn. People do not know what they are missing out on. Maybe I am just strange, I really do not like many "newer" bands. I mean my favorite four bands are as listed-
1. Judas Priest
2. The Rolling Stones
3. AC/DC
4. Megadeth
I think it is very sad though when people can not name a single member from the Rolling Stones, worst of all some kids think they are a clothing line. I wear a JP shirt to school and people think Judas Priest is a person!!! I do not claim my generation.
As you can tell I am ADD, I can not stay on one topic.
| | | spapad wrote: | | Kudos for you!  I have bought most of the Priest Catalog about 3 times now. Once on LP, then again on Cassette when I got my car, then again when my record player died and I could not longer play them on the old stereo.
I think Point of Entry, except for one song, is an excellent album. I love all their stuff but there are songs on that record I really liked when I was young and still do!
| | | icecreamman wrote: | | I have to admit it is not my favorite Priest album, but I am 17 and most of JP's music was made before I excisted, and Turbo to me is a good album. I think a lot of Priest fans were alienated during that time period, to alienated to appreciate the album. Its like Nosrtadomus, you have to excpect something different. Both are great albums. Its a funny story that the 1st JP album I ever heard was British Steel, it was one of my Dads old records, and then I found Turbo which was on Cassette. I loved British Steel, and still do; but when I put in Turbo I remember thinking WTF? I just did not know what to think. I think that most Priest fans felt that way, and I understand. I just wish the critics would actually admire that Priest are a band who are constantly changing thier sound. I also wish JP would play Reckless live, it is a great song.
By the way, I own all the Priest albums now, and I love them all.
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I was listening today while driving. It is a fantastic driving album. Solar Angles and driving go better than oreos and milk!!!
Okay okay, that went a little too far.
Also White heat, red hot is awsome. I have not heard it in forever. Today I have listened to several Priest albums ( As you can tell ) and I have no fricken clue what they will do next.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Tuesday, February 17, 2009 6:14:25 PM)| | | icecreamman wrote: | | I agree Piont of Entry is much greater than it is given credit for. I really do like all the albums. Ram it Down is another hidden treasure too, it is one of Robs best vocal performances, despite the less than stellar lyrics.
I have never seen JP live. I had tickets to see them in VA, but I had some helth issues at the time and was unable to attend. I would kill to see them live.
Heres a story for you, my girlfriend hated metal. Let me repeat HATED METAL. I let her borrow Angel of Retribution and Demolition and now she loves metal, mostly Priest and Megadeth. It is sad that my generations idea of metal is bands like Slipknot and Korn. People do not know what they are missing out on. Maybe I am just strange, I really do not like many "newer" bands. I mean my favorite four bands are as listed-
1. Judas Priest
2. The Rolling Stones
3. AC/DC
4. Megadeth
I think it is very sad though when people can not name a single member from the Rolling Stones, worst of all some kids think they are a clothing line. I wear a JP shirt to school and people think Judas Priest is a person!!! I do not claim my generation.
As you can tell I am ADD, I can not stay on one topic.
| | | spapad wrote: | | Kudos for you! I have bought most of the Priest Catalog about 3 times now. Once on LP, then again on Cassette when I got my car, then again when my record player died and I could not longer play them on the old stereo.
I think Point of Entry, except for one song, is an excellent album. I love all their stuff but there are songs on that record I really liked when I was young and still do!
| | | icecreamman wrote: | | I have to admit it is not my favorite Priest album, but I am 17 and most of JP's music was made before I excisted, and Turbo to me is a good album. I think a lot of Priest fans were alienated during that time period, to alienated to appreciate the album. Its like Nosrtadomus, you have to excpect something different. Both are great albums. Its a funny story that the 1st JP album I ever heard was British Steel, it was one of my Dads old records, and then I found Turbo which was on Cassette. I loved British Steel, and still do; but when I put in Turbo I remember thinking WTF? I just did not know what to think. I think that most Priest fans felt that way, and I understand. I just wish the critics would actually admire that Priest are a band who are constantly changing thier sound. I also wish JP would play Reckless live, it is a great song.
By the way, I own all the Priest albums now, and I love them all.
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[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Cobras-Aura from Thursday, February 19, 2009 3:20:11 AM)| | | Cobras-Aura wrote: | | Right on about the band members Moving further in line with this topic, I think Priest should do something very ballsy, an album chocful of pure bone crunching metal, with a bit of a medieval and fantasy beast land feel to itself, much like Saxon nowadays. Into The Labyrinth (their new, ass-kicking album) would be a great inspiration for Priest. (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Monday, February 16, 2009 5:48:15 PM)
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KK Downing- One of the two greatest guitarist
Glenn Tipton- One of the two greatest guitarist
Ian Hill- Bass Monster
Scott Travis- God of Drums
I think anything they put out will blow us away!!!
I heard there may be a live album out soon with Exciter on it. Does anyone know anything about it?
Also, I know this is random, is there any NASCAR fans on here?
One more thing I think Goats Head Soup is the most under rated Stones album there is. Critics bash it but to me it is great. Does anyone agree?.....
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Right on about the band members Moving further in line with this topic, I think Priest should do something very ballsy, an album chocful of pure bone crunching metal, with a bit of a medieval and fantasy beast land feel to itself, much like Saxon nowadays. Into The Labyrinth (their new, ass-kicking album) would be a great inspiration for Priest. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Monday, February 16, 2009 5:48:15 PM)
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Rob Halford- Greatest Metal Singer
KK Downing- One of the two greatest guitarist
Glenn Tipton- One of the two greatest guitarist
Ian Hill- Bass Monster
Scott Travis- God of Drums
I think anything they put out will blow us away!!!
I heard there may be a live album out soon with Exciter on it. Does anyone know anything about it?
Also, I know this is random, is there any NASCAR fans on here?
One more thing I think Goats Head Soup is the most under rated Stones album there is. Critics bash it but to me it is great. Does anyone agree?.....
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I agree Piont of Entry is much greater than it is given credit for. I really do like all the albums. Ram it Down is another hidden treasure too, it is one of Robs best vocal performances, despite the less than stellar lyrics.
I have never seen JP live. I had tickets to see them in VA, but I had some helth issues at the time and was unable to attend. I would kill to see them live.
Heres a story for you, my girlfriend hated metal. Let me repeat HATED METAL. I let her borrow Angel of Retribution and Demolition and now she loves metal, mostly Priest and Megadeth. It is sad that my generations idea of metal is bands like Slipknot and Korn. People do not know what they are missing out on. Maybe I am just strange, I really do not like many "newer" bands. I mean my favorite four bands are as listed-
1. Judas Priest
2. The Rolling Stones
3. AC/DC
4. Megadeth
I think it is very sad though when people can not name a single member from the Rolling Stones, worst of all some kids think they are a clothing line. I wear a JP shirt to school and people think Judas Priest is a person!!! I do not claim my generation.
As you can tell I am ADD, I can not stay on one topic.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:45:44 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Kudos for you! I have bought most of the Priest Catalog about 3 times now. Once on LP, then again on Cassette when I got my car, then again when my record player died and I could not longer play them on the old stereo.
I think Point of Entry, except for one song, is an excellent album. I love all their stuff but there are songs on that record I really liked when I was young and still do!
| | | icecreamman wrote: | | I have to admit it is not my favorite Priest album, but I am 17 and most of JP's music was made before I excisted, and Turbo to me is a good album. I think a lot of Priest fans were alienated during that time period, to alienated to appreciate the album. Its like Nosrtadomus, you have to excpect something different. Both are great albums. Its a funny story that the 1st JP album I ever heard was British Steel, it was one of my Dads old records, and then I found Turbo which was on Cassette. I loved British Steel, and still do; but when I put in Turbo I remember thinking WTF? I just did not know what to think. I think that most Priest fans felt that way, and I understand. I just wish the critics would actually admire that Priest are a band who are constantly changing thier sound. I also wish JP would play Reckless live, it is a great song.
By the way, I own all the Priest albums now, and I love them all.
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Kudos for you! I have bought most of the Priest Catalog about 3 times now. Once on LP, then again on Cassette when I got my car, then again when my record player died and I could not longer play them on the old stereo.
I think Point of Entry, except for one song, is an excellent album. I love all their stuff but there are songs on that record I really liked when I was young and still do!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:40:38 PM)| | | icecreamman wrote: | | I have to admit it is not my favorite Priest album, but I am 17 and most of JP's music was made before I excisted, and Turbo to me is a good album. I think a lot of Priest fans were alienated during that time period, to alienated to appreciate the album. Its like Nosrtadomus, you have to excpect something different. Both are great albums. Its a funny story that the 1st JP album I ever heard was British Steel, it was one of my Dads old records, and then I found Turbo which was on Cassette. I loved British Steel, and still do; but when I put in Turbo I remember thinking WTF? I just did not know what to think. I think that most Priest fans felt that way, and I understand. I just wish the critics would actually admire that Priest are a band who are constantly changing thier sound. I also wish JP would play Reckless live, it is a great song.
By the way, I own all the Priest albums now, and I love them all.
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I have to admit it is not my favorite Priest album, but I am 17 and most of JP's music was made before I excisted, and Turbo to me is a good album. I think a lot of Priest fans were alienated during that time period, to alienated to appreciate the album. Its like Nosrtadomus, you have to excpect something different. Both are great albums. Its a funny story that the 1st JP album I ever heard was British Steel, it was one of my Dads old records, and then I found Turbo which was on Cassette. I loved British Steel, and still do; but when I put in Turbo I remember thinking WTF? I just did not know what to think. I think that most Priest fans felt that way, and I understand. I just wish the critics would actually admire that Priest are a band who are constantly changing thier sound. I also wish JP would play Reckless live, it is a great song.
By the way, I own all the Priest albums now, and I love them all.
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I don't dislike Turbo, I thought it had it's merits for the time it was made and there are some songs on there that still make me very happy. But as Priest goes, I think it was one of their most "trendy" albums and therefore, why it does not stand the test of time as many other LP's. IMO.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:19:34 PM)| | | icecreamman wrote: | | I heard something about them remaking Turbo.
Just Kidding!!!!
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I heard something about them remaking Turbo.
Just Kidding!!!!
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I see you worship the Metal Gods as I do! LOL
If you want a NASCAR THREAD There is a pro sports Quarem down at the bottom of the board under beyond the realms of Priest.
If you serch the threads you may actually find a Nascar thread but I don't recall ever seeing myself.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Monday, February 16, 2009 5:48:15 PM)| | | icecreamman wrote: | | Rob Halford- Greatest Metal Singer
KK Downing- One of the two greatest guitarist
Glenn Tipton- One of the two greatest guitarist
Ian Hill- Bass Monster
Scott Travis- God of Drums
I think anything they put out will blow us away!!!
I heard there may be a live album out soon with Exciter on it. Does anyone know anything about it?
Also, I know this is random, is there any NASCAR fans on here?
One more thing I think Goats Head Soup is the most under rated Stones album there is. Critics bash it but to me it is great. Does anyone agree?..... |
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Rob Halford- Greatest Metal Singer
KK Downing- One of the two greatest guitarist
Glenn Tipton- One of the two greatest guitarist
Ian Hill- Bass Monster
Scott Travis- God of Drums
I think anything they put out will blow us away!!!
I heard there may be a live album out soon with Exciter on it. Does anyone know anything about it?
Also, I know this is random, is there any NASCAR fans on here?
One more thing I think Goats Head Soup is the most under rated Stones album there is. Critics bash it but to me it is great. Does anyone agree?..... |
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SCOTT WHO???? OH! SORRY!
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JT: Are you a drummer too? You seem to know alot about drums (drum specs wow..) in general and about the "big hard rock sound" from the 80's. You also mention the studio too...(like you know). All Im saying is Travis plays the older material with no detail and leaves out the intricate parts of the songs. Did you see Holland w/ JP live in your day or are you going off your SFV video? Also stage presence behind what? the drums?
Also, Travis has been criticized (sp?) on the last 2 JP releases: AOR & NSTRDMS "of mailing it in" in the studio on his drum playing...I'll give you Painkiller but after that....not much
Everyone has an opinion & that's whats great.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by JT_Small_Deadly_Space from Friday, February 13, 2009 4:25:53 AM)| | | JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote: | | Oh man please, Holland was a great time keeper and all but he had as much stage presence as a wet fart. As for having the thump, that was down to the drum specs alone, back in the 80's kits were made with larger and deeper sized toms for a more hard rock feel, hence the intense sound of the kit on albums such as Screaming for Vengeance and Defenders of the Faith. Travis uses a kit more for modern metal with a clean cut sound but is not as deep. His toms are way smaller and he uses a much smaller kit than what Holland did. But Travis plays with way more power i mean have you seen the size of him? and if you disagree, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q794_DEWOuE) should prove that point. I agree sometimes he looks bored but its because he is used to challenging himself with technical drumming from the likes of Racer X, Painkiller and Angel of Retribution. He still entertains the crowd massively with such stunts as stick throwing.. and catching, stick twirling, hand switching on some songs and interacting with the crowd. His double bass work is flawless for what he does and it puts him light years ahead of Holland. At least he manages to play songs from the Simon Philips/ Les Binks era correctly as Holland failed miserably at that i mean listen to Sinner and Victim of Changes from the Live Vengeance 82 DVD (i know Les didn't record on Sad Wings od Destiny but his version is much better than Alan Moore's) which Scott plays perfectly.
Long live Scott and the rest of the metal Gods!
| | | Maple Syrup wrote: | | ICM: Slow down on the what Priest could have been with Travis in the 80's thing. Holland was much more fluid and detailed than Travis. Listen to Travis play any of the Pre-Painkiller stuff and he does not have the thump nor does he play the parts with the same intensity as Holland. The Ripper, Desert Plains etc.. I'll take Holland anyday on the old stuff. Travis is all dry run sounding without the parts. Even when they did Devils Child on this past tour, Travis played it with no emotion like he has somewhere to go.. Do not compare the ERA's please!
MpleSyrp
| | | icecreamman wrote: | | You have to admit, if Scott was in Priest in the 80's some of their music would have been mind blowing!!! |
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| [JT_Small_Deadly_Space] Friday, February 13, 2009 4:25:53 AM | |
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Oh man please, Holland was a great time keeper and all but he had as much stage presence as a wet fart. As for having the thump, that was down to the drum specs alone, back in the 80's kits were made with larger and deeper sized toms for a more hard rock feel, hence the intense sound of the kit on albums such as Screaming for Vengeance and Defenders of the Faith. Travis uses a kit more for modern metal with a clean cut sound but is not as deep. His toms are way smaller and he uses a much smaller kit than what Holland did. But Travis plays with way more power i mean have you seen the size of him? and if you disagree, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q794_DEWOuE) should prove that point. I agree sometimes he looks bored but its because he is used to challenging himself with technical drumming from the likes of Racer X, Painkiller and Angel of Retribution. He still entertains the crowd massively with such stunts as stick throwing.. and catching, stick twirling, hand switching on some songs and interacting with the crowd. His double bass work is flawless for what he does and it puts him light years ahead of Holland. At least he manages to play songs from the Simon Philips/ Les Binks era correctly as Holland failed miserably at that i mean listen to Sinner and Victim of Changes from the Live Vengeance 82 DVD (i know Les didn't record on Sad Wings od Destiny but his version is much better than Alan Moore's) which Scott plays perfectly.
Long live Scott and the rest of the metal Gods!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Maple Syrup from Friday, February 06, 2009 2:36:38 PM)
| | | Maple Syrup wrote: | | ICM: Slow down on the what Priest could have been with Travis in the 80's thing. Holland was much more fluid and detailed than Travis. Listen to Travis play any of the Pre-Painkiller stuff and he does not have the thump nor does he play the parts with the same intensity as Holland. The Ripper, Desert Plains etc.. I'll take Holland anyday on the old stuff. Travis is all dry run sounding without the parts. Even when they did Devils Child on this past tour, Travis played it with no emotion like he has somewhere to go.. Do not compare the ERA's please!
MpleSyrp
| | | icecreamman wrote: | | You have to admit, if Scott was in Priest in the 80's some of their music would have been mind blowing!!! |
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| [spapad] Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:18:24 PM | |
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I think the next realease will be something we were really not expecting. Something bold, new, and different, just like they have done all along. Never move backwards, afterall Defenders was 24 years ago, I'm sure they have a progessive styling commin up that we will just be blown away by.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:12:58 PM)| | | icecreamman wrote: | | I wish that the recording process was as fast as it was in the old days. I am just happy it does not take priest 5 ( Metallica) or eight years ( AC/DC) to recored an album. Nostradamus was done in just three and it is a monsterous masterpiece. I would just love to see how they follow it up. The Halford led Priest have been on a "hot streak".
Another concept album would be a little too much, but a great heavy metal album like Defenders of the Faith would be cool.
| | | Before The Rage wrote: | | It would be amazing if Priest released a new studio album this year, or next year. I understand they're still busy with their Nostradamus plans, but back in the day they'd be touring and still have a new album out every year...
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| [icecreamman] Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:12:58 PM | |
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I wish that the recording process was as fast as it was in the old days. I am just happy it does not take priest 5 ( Metallica) or eight years ( AC/DC) to recored an album. Nostradamus was done in just three and it is a monsterous masterpiece. I would just love to see how they follow it up. The Halford led Priest have been on a "hot streak".
Another concept album would be a little too much, but a great heavy metal album like Defenders of the Faith would be cool.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Before The Rage from Tuesday, February 10, 2009 7:51:50 PM)| | | Before The Rage wrote: | | It would be amazing if Priest released a new studio album this year, or next year. I understand they're still busy with their Nostradamus plans, but back in the day they'd be touring and still have a new album out every year...
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| [spapad] Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:35:31 PM | |
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Good evening MG~, I knew you would see it my way! LOL
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MG_Metalgoddess from Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:24:12 PM)| | | MG_Metalgoddess wrote: | | | Well If Dave Holland ever decides to get his act together, and stay out of Prison maybe he will do something again someday..... with a another band!!!!!!!!! There is No replacing Scott Travis-licious...LOL |
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:24:12 PM | |
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| Well If Dave Holland ever decides to get his act together, and stay out of Prison maybe he will do something again someday..... with a another band!!!!!!!!! There is No replacing Scott Travis-licious...LOL |
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| [spapad] Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:07:31 PM | |
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Technically, I would say Holland was the least talented drummer JP had. There was Simon, a well sought after studio drummer who was a double kicker, who played on the studio recording of Sin after Sin. Simon would not go on tour with them and they found Les Binks who also played double Bass drums. They were both very intense drummers. What Dave gave to the band, although he could not play double kick bass drums, was consistency. He stayed for 10 years and that was a feat they had not been able to achieve prior to him. Sometimes consistency makes up for some short commings. I don't think Scott looks bored behind his drums. I think he is intense and concentrating on what he is doing. He is an outstanding drummer.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Tuesday, February 10, 2009 1:00:40 PM)| | | Bazooka Joe wrote: | | Technically, Scott is lightyears better than Holland, but I do get where your coming from with the feel that Holland had. Scott looks bored as shit haha.
| | | Maple Syrup wrote: | | ICM: Slow down on the what Priest could have been with Travis in the 80's thing. Holland was much more fluid and detailed than Travis. Listen to Travis play any of the Pre-Painkiller stuff and he does not have the thump nor does he play the parts with the same intensity as Holland. The Ripper, Desert Plains etc.. I'll take Holland anyday on the old stuff. Travis is all dry run sounding without the parts. Even when they did Devils Child on this past tour, Travis played it with no emotion like he has somewhere to go.. Do not compare the ERA's please!
MpleSyrp
| | | icecreamman wrote: | | You have to admit, if Scott was in Priest in the 80's some of their music would have been mind blowing!!! |
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| [Before The Rage] Tuesday, February 10, 2009 7:51:50 PM | |
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It would be amazing if Priest released a new studio album this year, or next year. I understand they're still busy with their Nostradamus plans, but back in the day they'd be touring and still have a new album out every year...
A live album would be alright, but I'm not too big on DVD's... |
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| [Bazookajoe_666] Tuesday, February 10, 2009 1:00:40 PM | |
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Technically, Scott is lightyears better than Holland, but I do get where your coming from with the feel that Holland had. Scott looks bored as shit haha.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Maple Syrup from Friday, February 06, 2009 2:36:38 PM)| | | Maple Syrup wrote: | | ICM: Slow down on the what Priest could have been with Travis in the 80's thing. Holland was much more fluid and detailed than Travis. Listen to Travis play any of the Pre-Painkiller stuff and he does not have the thump nor does he play the parts with the same intensity as Holland. The Ripper, Desert Plains etc.. I'll take Holland anyday on the old stuff. Travis is all dry run sounding without the parts. Even when they did Devils Child on this past tour, Travis played it with no emotion like he has somewhere to go.. Do not compare the ERA's please!
MpleSyrp
| | | icecreamman wrote: | | You have to admit, if Scott was in Priest in the 80's some of their music would have been mind blowing!!! |
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| [icecreamman] Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:56:46 PM | |
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Mple Syrup,
I do not think that Dave Holland played drums for JP on the Sad Wings of Destiny album, or the 70's at all.
All I am saying is that it would be cool to hear. It is certanly true that Holland could pound away on the drums, but he lacks the complexity of Scott's drumming. I also believe that Scott played excellent on ALL of the live albums he has been featured in, and on ALL the songs that are featured on them.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Maple Syrup from Friday, February 06, 2009 2:36:38 PM)| | | Maple Syrup wrote: | | ICM: Slow down on the what Priest could have been with Travis in the 80's thing. Holland was much more fluid and detailed than Travis. Listen to Travis play any of the Pre-Painkiller stuff and he does not have the thump nor does he play the parts with the same intensity as Holland. The Ripper, Desert Plains etc.. I'll take Holland anyday on the old stuff. Travis is all dry run sounding without the parts. Even when they did Devils Child on this past tour, Travis played it with no emotion like he has somewhere to go.. Do not compare the ERA's please!
MpleSyrp
| | | icecreamman wrote: | | You have to admit, if Scott was in Priest in the 80's some of their music would have been mind blowing!!! |
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| [Maple Syrup] Friday, February 06, 2009 2:36:38 PM | |
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ICM: Slow down on the what Priest could have been with Travis in the 80's thing. Holland was much more fluid and detailed than Travis. Listen to Travis play any of the Pre-Painkiller stuff and he does not have the thump nor does he play the parts with the same intensity as Holland. The Ripper, Desert Plains etc.. I'll take Holland anyday on the old stuff. Travis is all dry run sounding without the parts. Even when they did Devils Child on this past tour, Travis played it with no emotion like he has somewhere to go.. Do not compare the ERA's please!
MpleSyrp
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Monday, February 02, 2009 7:54:11 PM)| | | icecreamman wrote: | | You have to admit, if Scott was in Priest in the 80's some of their music would have been mind blowing!!! |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:17:21 AM | |
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Although Nostadamus is a masterpiece of originality,and absolute "different"........I believe that the rest of the band's career should be focused on the style of "Judas Priest" rather than doing something different. If the band only has 1 or 2 albums left I would hope they would not experiment.
True every JP album is not the same....but for the most part albums like Sad Wings Of Destiny, Hell Bent For Leather,British Steel,Point Of Entry,Screaming For Vengeance,Defenders Of The Faith,Ram It Down,Painkiller,Jugulator and Angel Of Retribution run on the same type of patterns,where as Turbo,Demolition and Nostradamus go to far outside for myself. |
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| [icecreamman] Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:12:39 PM | |
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| 98' Meltdown was an awsome live album. Very Underated. |
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| [Cooper Ryback] Tuesday, February 03, 2009 1:51:20 PM | |
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| [icecreamman] Tuesday, February 03, 2009 1:38:26 PM | |
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What if Scott Travis did the drumming on Britsh Steel?
Rapid Fire would have been KILLER!!!! |
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| [Devil Deal] Monday, February 02, 2009 9:26:42 PM | |
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Yeah. That would be nice.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Saturday, January 31, 2009 12:55:18 PM)| | | icecreamman wrote: | | | I think the boys should go back to the sound they had on Defenders of the Faith. |
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| [icecreamman] Monday, February 02, 2009 7:54:11 PM | |
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You have to admit, if Scott was in Priest in the 80's some of their music would have been mind blowing!!! |
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| [hellrider 31038] Sunday, February 01, 2009 10:43:13 AM | |
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| http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=ofWA9ap2Vb4 personally i would like to see them do something real hard core something simular to this masterpiece by sabbat and the mighty painkiller album it would surely rip the skin of your face. |
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| [Screamin' Demon] Saturday, January 31, 2009 3:59:49 PM | |
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| That was a bit of an unpredictable statement. It wouldn't exactly make a bad idea, so long as Scott's drumming would be technical with lots of double bass. If he'd been on Defenders Of The Faith, that album could have kicked some serious ass instead of being labelled Screaming For Vengeance II. |
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| [icecreamman] Saturday, January 31, 2009 12:55:18 PM | |
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| I think the boys should go back to the sound they had on Defenders of the Faith. |
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