Not once have I asked for a "Painkiller" style album. That's already been done.
That's not even my favorite Priest album. I only have 5 songs from it on my iPod.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
This is all bullshit. Yes Budred has a right to his opinion,as others do too but to critisize a 60 year old singer for not performing a flawless show is fucking retarded.
And a newsflash for Budred,Hellrider,Brain_Evans...I'm trying to find the article interview with Ian Hill when asked about the new CD....they asked him if it was heavy like the Painkiller album and Ian said NO,he said it is heavily in the vien of Angel Of Retibution so you might as well not hope for your "killer" Judas Priest album because your not getting it. Fans of Retribution have a much better chance at liking this new material.
You won't like this new material,and you won't like any live shows....looks like this band is just a nostalgia for you guys,you can still post on thier past performances and thier past albums though....yay.
(Quoting Message by Becks from Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:50:02 AM)
Becks wrote:
Well said JD, I agree. If you expect a 60 year old to do something night after night a 25 year old would struggle with, you're setting yourself up for disappointment I reckon. And who cares about the off days, lets focus on the many 'on' days!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Since Rob's return they have Angel Of Retribution,at least that album is a classic Priest album and may not be thier very best but it kicks the living shit out of that pile of garbage album you love so damn much "Demolition" lol. It utterly baffles my brain,same as Hellrider hates the Screaming For Vengeance album but loves the shitty Turbo album but to each his own,just baffles my freakin brain.
And to say they haven't rocked the fuck out since Rob's return is utter bullshit. Since 2004 -2012 you think Rob hasn't had a few kick ass vocal performances? Thats retarded Budred,quit trying to be the diviant here,seems your just trying to get attention from the die hards here rather than focus on the spirit of the band here anymore.
And if you think Judas Priest should call it a day,then you wouldn't give a FUCK about the new CD.
For fucks sake this is so retarded all these people bitching about Rob's voice,on the King Diamond forum they don't bitch about the King when he has off night,on the Saxon forum they don't bitch when Biff has an off night,why is it such a serious subject when Rob struggles? Its fucking retarded,Budred he is 60 fucking years old and your still hoping he will rock out soon ect.....
give the guy a god damn break will you? Everybody else too please,just give the fuckin guy a god damn break!
I'm so sick an tired of hearing how much they suck,Rob sucks ,he can't sing anymore,they are too old,they can't sell out stadiums like Elvis if he were still alive...its all bullshit man,who in the fuck cares if Rob struggles from time to time,he does have "ON" nights too,but who cares....People should stop expecting this band to be 20 years old again.
If anyone thinks they are a fuckin "JOKE" at 60 years old wearing leather and struggling on vocals like a circus clown then they shouldn't be here,I don't think they are a Joke,I take this band very seriously.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:15:19 AM)
Budred wrote:
I didn't say "people" said Rob was struggling, I said from what I heard "I" thought Rob was struggling. I did
mention that some around me were laughing at him. I think part of the argument here is whether they were
perfect or not. Other than from Mushroomhead I've never heard a perfect performance. (That was a joke) but
seriously, when is anybody perfect. My whole gripe is that I've seen them perform so much better in the past
and that left me disappointed with the current show. I also mentioned that (for me) Richie changes their sound
and I don't like that. He's a great guitarist but Priest is different with him. Not everyone can share the same opinion
and mine only matters to me and if you guys really think Rob and or Priest was that great then so be it.
What I heard was subpar to me.
@ Headbanger
I do think that Judas should call it a day. The only reason that I'm curious about the new CD is because I still
have a desire to hear them rock the f#ck out, but, deep down I'm not expecting that. They haven't since Rob's
return but I can still have hope. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that any future enjoyment I get out of
Priest will most likely come from memories of the past.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Why listen to people that actually attended the Epitaph shows when you can listen to someone that has watched YouTube videos? Oh, I forgot, we see Priest through "rose colored glasses". No, I actually know when someone is in pitch and when they aren't unlike others. Rob was not perfect in Hammond either, but he was damn close! The entire audience was in awe of Rob that night and that is a FACT! I talked to many people on the way out and they all said the same thing.
People ran up to me in Cleveland, because I was wearing my Painkiller tour shirt, to tell me that this is the best they have heard Rob since the Painkiller tour. For every person that Budred says thought Rob was struggling, I talked to at least 10 that thought he was incredible. I filmed Beyond The Realms Of Death in Cleveland and Rob blew out the mic on my camera in several places. Anyone who has taped Priest at a show knows that the recorded version does not do them justice to actually hearing it live. But again, don't listen to the people that were AT the show, listen to the expert YouTube video reviewer telling us that Priest should pack it up.
Ever consider that people are not going to see Priest because they are listening to people that are bitching about them and saying they should quit even though they didn't go to a show?
guidogodoy wrote:
Now which is it, JJ? First you rip on Vail because she is apparently too young to have any sort of valid judgement when she says that she really liked a show or two. Then, when some of us "old folks" who have seen Priest MANY more times than you call bullshit on your comments for a concert you haven't even seen, you claim that we are also wrong. WTF?! Do I need to have an internet radio show once a week to say what I like and what I don't? Sorry, I was only the host of a real metal radio show back in the 90s. Too old to count in your book, I guess.
HRMG said it perfectly well. I have given up entire summer vacations to following Priest and, like any band, they have good nights and bad ones. Wish I had the interview at hand when Rob says that he tries to give it his all at every show but that, sometimes, his vocal chords didn't permit. KK said the same when he commented on some of his ad-libs. Sometimes they work and sometimes the whole band rolls their eyes at him. All we (or, I, at least) have said was that HAMMOND was a killer show! Sold-out crowd to interact with a magical and spot-on performance. While I was also in Detroit, I agree that Hammond was the one that should have been recorded. It was pure magic. I cannot and DO not claim the same for even the Montreal, Detroit, Nashville shows last time around.
Keep on promoting your radio show, buddy. Listing tracks and talking smack about what you haven't experienced seems to be your forté.
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, January 19, 2012 3:32:53 AM
Hellrider,your so retarded this is all the post you get. lol.
MUST BE WHY KK LEFT.HE WANTED TO PUSH THE METAL FORWARD FULL ON AND IN OUR FACE MIGHTY PAAAAAAAAAINKILLLLLLLER STYLE AND THE REST OF THE BAND JUST WANTED TO GIVE US A MIXED BAG ( SKIP TRACKER ALBUM) LIKE THE PREVIOUS AND THE PREVIOUS BEFORE THAT.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
This is all bullshit. Yes Budred has a right to his opinion,as others do too but to critisize a 60 year old singer for not performing a flawless show is fucking retarded.
And a newsflash for Budred,Hellrider,Brain_Evans...I'm trying to find the article interview with Ian Hill when asked about the new CD....they asked him if it was heavy like the Painkiller album and Ian said NO,he said it is heavily in the vien of Angel Of Retibution so you might as well not hope for your "killer" Judas Priest album because your not getting it. Fans of Retribution have a much better chance at liking this new material.
You won't like this new material,and you won't like any live shows....looks like this band is just a nostalgia for you guys,you can still post on thier past performances and thier past albums though....yay.
(Quoting Message by Becks from Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:50:02 AM)
Becks wrote:
Well said JD, I agree. If you expect a 60 year old to do something night after night a 25 year old would struggle with, you're setting yourself up for disappointment I reckon. And who cares about the off days, lets focus on the many 'on' days!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Since Rob's return they have Angel Of Retribution,at least that album is a classic Priest album and may not be thier very best but it kicks the living shit out of that pile of garbage album you love so damn much "Demolition" lol. It utterly baffles my brain,same as Hellrider hates the Screaming For Vengeance album but loves the shitty Turbo album but to each his own,just baffles my freakin brain.
And to say they haven't rocked the fuck out since Rob's return is utter bullshit. Since 2004 -2012 you think Rob hasn't had a few kick ass vocal performances? Thats retarded Budred,quit trying to be the diviant here,seems your just trying to get attention from the die hards here rather than focus on the spirit of the band here anymore.
And if you think Judas Priest should call it a day,then you wouldn't give a FUCK about the new CD.
For fucks sake this is so retarded all these people bitching about Rob's voice,on the King Diamond forum they don't bitch about the King when he has off night,on the Saxon forum they don't bitch when Biff has an off night,why is it such a serious subject when Rob struggles? Its fucking retarded,Budred he is 60 fucking years old and your still hoping he will rock out soon ect.....
give the guy a god damn break will you? Everybody else too please,just give the fuckin guy a god damn break!
I'm so sick an tired of hearing how much they suck,Rob sucks ,he can't sing anymore,they are too old,they can't sell out stadiums like Elvis if he were still alive...its all bullshit man,who in the fuck cares if Rob struggles from time to time,he does have "ON" nights too,but who cares....People should stop expecting this band to be 20 years old again.
If anyone thinks they are a fuckin "JOKE" at 60 years old wearing leather and struggling on vocals like a circus clown then they shouldn't be here,I don't think they are a Joke,I take this band very seriously.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:15:19 AM)
Budred wrote:
I didn't say "people" said Rob was struggling, I said from what I heard "I" thought Rob was struggling. I did
mention that some around me were laughing at him. I think part of the argument here is whether they were
perfect or not. Other than from Mushroomhead I've never heard a perfect performance. (That was a joke) but
seriously, when is anybody perfect. My whole gripe is that I've seen them perform so much better in the past
and that left me disappointed with the current show. I also mentioned that (for me) Richie changes their sound
and I don't like that. He's a great guitarist but Priest is different with him. Not everyone can share the same opinion
and mine only matters to me and if you guys really think Rob and or Priest was that great then so be it.
What I heard was subpar to me.
@ Headbanger
I do think that Judas should call it a day. The only reason that I'm curious about the new CD is because I still
have a desire to hear them rock the f#ck out, but, deep down I'm not expecting that. They haven't since Rob's
return but I can still have hope. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that any future enjoyment I get out of
Priest will most likely come from memories of the past.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Why listen to people that actually attended the Epitaph shows when you can listen to someone that has watched YouTube videos? Oh, I forgot, we see Priest through "rose colored glasses". No, I actually know when someone is in pitch and when they aren't unlike others. Rob was not perfect in Hammond either, but he was damn close! The entire audience was in awe of Rob that night and that is a FACT! I talked to many people on the way out and they all said the same thing.
People ran up to me in Cleveland, because I was wearing my Painkiller tour shirt, to tell me that this is the best they have heard Rob since the Painkiller tour. For every person that Budred says thought Rob was struggling, I talked to at least 10 that thought he was incredible. I filmed Beyond The Realms Of Death in Cleveland and Rob blew out the mic on my camera in several places. Anyone who has taped Priest at a show knows that the recorded version does not do them justice to actually hearing it live. But again, don't listen to the people that were AT the show, listen to the expert YouTube video reviewer telling us that Priest should pack it up.
Ever consider that people are not going to see Priest because they are listening to people that are bitching about them and saying they should quit even though they didn't go to a show?
guidogodoy wrote:
Now which is it, JJ? First you rip on Vail because she is apparently too young to have any sort of valid judgement when she says that she really liked a show or two. Then, when some of us "old folks" who have seen Priest MANY more times than you call bullshit on your comments for a concert you haven't even seen, you claim that we are also wrong. WTF?! Do I need to have an internet radio show once a week to say what I like and what I don't? Sorry, I was only the host of a real metal radio show back in the 90s. Too old to count in your book, I guess.
HRMG said it perfectly well. I have given up entire summer vacations to following Priest and, like any band, they have good nights and bad ones. Wish I had the interview at hand when Rob says that he tries to give it his all at every show but that, sometimes, his vocal chords didn't permit. KK said the same when he commented on some of his ad-libs. Sometimes they work and sometimes the whole band rolls their eyes at him. All we (or, I, at least) have said was that HAMMOND was a killer show! Sold-out crowd to interact with a magical and spot-on performance. While I was also in Detroit, I agree that Hammond was the one that should have been recorded. It was pure magic. I cannot and DO not claim the same for even the Montreal, Detroit, Nashville shows last time around.
Keep on promoting your radio show, buddy. Listing tracks and talking smack about what you haven't experienced seems to be your forté.
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
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[Budred] Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:38:57 PM
Not once have I asked for a "Painkiller" style album. That's already been done.
That's not even my favorite Priest album. I only have 5 songs from it on my iPod.
This is all bullshit. Yes Budred has a right to his opinion,as others do too but to critisize a 60 year old singer for not performing a flawless show is fucking retarded.
And a newsflash for Budred,Hellrider,Brain_Evans...I'm trying to find the article interview with Ian Hill when asked about the new CD....they asked him if it was heavy like the Painkiller album and Ian said NO,he said it is heavily in the vien of Angel Of Retibution so you might as well not hope for your "killer" Judas Priest album because your not getting it. Fans of Retribution have a much better chance at liking this new material.
You won't like this new material,and you won't like any live shows....looks like this band is just a nostalgia for you guys,you can still post on thier past performances and thier past albums though....yay.
(Quoting Message by Becks from Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:50:02 AM)
Becks wrote:
Well said JD, I agree. If you expect a 60 year old to do something night after night a 25 year old would struggle with, you're setting yourself up for disappointment I reckon. And who cares about the off days, lets focus on the many 'on' days!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Since Rob's return they have Angel Of Retribution,at least that album is a classic Priest album and may not be thier very best but it kicks the living shit out of that pile of garbage album you love so damn much "Demolition" lol. It utterly baffles my brain,same as Hellrider hates the Screaming For Vengeance album but loves the shitty Turbo album but to each his own,just baffles my freakin brain.
And to say they haven't rocked the fuck out since Rob's return is utter bullshit. Since 2004 -2012 you think Rob hasn't had a few kick ass vocal performances? Thats retarded Budred,quit trying to be the diviant here,seems your just trying to get attention from the die hards here rather than focus on the spirit of the band here anymore.
And if you think Judas Priest should call it a day,then you wouldn't give a FUCK about the new CD.
For fucks sake this is so retarded all these people bitching about Rob's voice,on the King Diamond forum they don't bitch about the King when he has off night,on the Saxon forum they don't bitch when Biff has an off night,why is it such a serious subject when Rob struggles? Its fucking retarded,Budred he is 60 fucking years old and your still hoping he will rock out soon ect.....
give the guy a god damn break will you? Everybody else too please,just give the fuckin guy a god damn break!
I'm so sick an tired of hearing how much they suck,Rob sucks ,he can't sing anymore,they are too old,they can't sell out stadiums like Elvis if he were still alive...its all bullshit man,who in the fuck cares if Rob struggles from time to time,he does have "ON" nights too,but who cares....People should stop expecting this band to be 20 years old again.
If anyone thinks they are a fuckin "JOKE" at 60 years old wearing leather and struggling on vocals like a circus clown then they shouldn't be here,I don't think they are a Joke,I take this band very seriously.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:15:19 AM)
Budred wrote:
I didn't say "people" said Rob was struggling, I said from what I heard "I" thought Rob was struggling. I did
mention that some around me were laughing at him. I think part of the argument here is whether they were
perfect or not. Other than from Mushroomhead I've never heard a perfect performance. (That was a joke) but
seriously, when is anybody perfect. My whole gripe is that I've seen them perform so much better in the past
and that left me disappointed with the current show. I also mentioned that (for me) Richie changes their sound
and I don't like that. He's a great guitarist but Priest is different with him. Not everyone can share the same opinion
and mine only matters to me and if you guys really think Rob and or Priest was that great then so be it.
What I heard was subpar to me.
@ Headbanger
I do think that Judas should call it a day. The only reason that I'm curious about the new CD is because I still
have a desire to hear them rock the f#ck out, but, deep down I'm not expecting that. They haven't since Rob's
return but I can still have hope. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that any future enjoyment I get out of
Priest will most likely come from memories of the past.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Why listen to people that actually attended the Epitaph shows when you can listen to someone that has watched YouTube videos? Oh, I forgot, we see Priest through "rose colored glasses". No, I actually know when someone is in pitch and when they aren't unlike others. Rob was not perfect in Hammond either, but he was damn close! The entire audience was in awe of Rob that night and that is a FACT! I talked to many people on the way out and they all said the same thing.
People ran up to me in Cleveland, because I was wearing my Painkiller tour shirt, to tell me that this is the best they have heard Rob since the Painkiller tour. For every person that Budred says thought Rob was struggling, I talked to at least 10 that thought he was incredible. I filmed Beyond The Realms Of Death in Cleveland and Rob blew out the mic on my camera in several places. Anyone who has taped Priest at a show knows that the recorded version does not do them justice to actually hearing it live. But again, don't listen to the people that were AT the show, listen to the expert YouTube video reviewer telling us that Priest should pack it up.
Ever consider that people are not going to see Priest because they are listening to people that are bitching about them and saying they should quit even though they didn't go to a show?
guidogodoy wrote:
Now which is it, JJ? First you rip on Vail because she is apparently too young to have any sort of valid judgement when she says that she really liked a show or two. Then, when some of us "old folks" who have seen Priest MANY more times than you call bullshit on your comments for a concert you haven't even seen, you claim that we are also wrong. WTF?! Do I need to have an internet radio show once a week to say what I like and what I don't? Sorry, I was only the host of a real metal radio show back in the 90s. Too old to count in your book, I guess.
HRMG said it perfectly well. I have given up entire summer vacations to following Priest and, like any band, they have good nights and bad ones. Wish I had the interview at hand when Rob says that he tries to give it his all at every show but that, sometimes, his vocal chords didn't permit. KK said the same when he commented on some of his ad-libs. Sometimes they work and sometimes the whole band rolls their eyes at him. All we (or, I, at least) have said was that HAMMOND was a killer show! Sold-out crowd to interact with a magical and spot-on performance. While I was also in Detroit, I agree that Hammond was the one that should have been recorded. It was pure magic. I cannot and DO not claim the same for even the Montreal, Detroit, Nashville shows last time around.
Keep on promoting your radio show, buddy. Listing tracks and talking smack about what you haven't experienced seems to be your forté.
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
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[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:01:10 PM
Bring it on man!! Painkiller swagger with 3 axe attack!!!
(Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Tuesday, January 17, 2012 6:30:42 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
KK IS NOT THE REASON N WAS WRITTEN J.D DIAMOND THE COMMANDER AND THAT IS A RANDOM FACT.
N CAME TO THEM
CLICK THE WIDGET
MY FELLOW DEFENDERS OF THE FAITH
KK COME BACK WITH RICHIE THREE AXE ATTACK
HEAR SEE AND FEEL THE PRIEST AND METAL TO THE MAX NOT PARTIAL
WITH KK BACK AND RICHIE KICKING IT UP A NOTCH
PUSHING THE METAL FORWARD, CONTINUING FRIOM THE MIGHTY PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINKILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLER ALBUM
KK COME BACK WITH RICHIE THREE AXE ATTACK
HEAR SEE AND FEEL THE PRIEST AND METAL TO THE MAX NOT PARTIAL WITH KK BACK AND RICHIE KICKING IT UP A NOTCH,
PUSHING THE METAL FORWARD CONTINUING FROM THE MIGHTY PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINKILLLLLLLLLLLLLER ALBUM
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:32:53 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I just don't see many members here viewing everything Priest does through a rose tinted glass Jimmy. And thats just it Jimmy....Judas Priest doesn't "care" if only 3,000 people showed up,they "knew" that there wasn't going to be 25,000 plus in any city.
And "they guy who started the band" is the damn reason "Nostradamus" was "created"....if it were not for K.K. freaking Downing Nostradamus wouldn't of NEVER been written and instead we would of got a normal british heavy metal album,make no mistake about it....K.K. didn't leave because this band is declining ect.....have you ever thought that it was him who fucked the band up in the first place? Not many people do consider.....
I agree about the management milking shit and perhaps the band is at fault for this too I agree. This band isn't stupid,they want to tour and get cash I know that,if they didn't they would be a bunch of fuckin idiots right? But come on,do you think that the band members think they are going to strike it rich off a tour? NO.
They are playing to scrounge a few extra bucks yes but they are also enjoying themselves and are not only doing it for the cash,I'm sure if somebody did something they love doing for 40 years it would be hard to give up. And Priest never said they could pack in crowds by themselves,they know they can't,its not like they are acting like they actually "can" right?
I honestly belive that Guido,Spapad and Hot Rockin MetalGodess would not be giving this much credit to Rob's voice had he given a half assed performance on that individual show. His voice varies obviously....my girlfriend Victoria saw the reunion tour 2004 and said he struggled a little,but when she saw the Retribution tour he was spot on and shocked her,yet the DVD Rising In The East from that same tour wasn't as good.
Over all he can't be consistant live because of age ect....but who cares,anyone showing up for a metal concert and expects the 60 year old lead vocalist to be perfect are kidding themselves.
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:42:21 AM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
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[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:00:21 PM
No you are wrong hellrider. Your K.K. Knight in shinning armor "IS" the very reason the nostrashit album was made. I know this for a fact and would "bet my son's life on it". Thats what "I know". You are sadly mistaken Hellrider. Downing fucked up the band while 99% of the fans on here don't want to belive it,its fuckin true and its even more frustrating reading shit how K.K. walked away because of this and that....bullshit.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
KK IS NOT THE REASON N WAS WRITTEN J.D DIAMOND THE COMMANDER AND THAT IS A RANDOM FACT.
N CAME TO THEM
CLICK THE WIDGET
MY FELLOW DEFENDERS OF THE FAITH
KK COME BACK WITH RICHIE THREE AXE ATTACK
HEAR SEE AND FEEL THE PRIEST AND METAL TO THE MAX NOT PARTIAL
WITH KK BACK AND RICHIE KICKING IT UP A NOTCH
PUSHING THE METAL FORWARD, CONTINUING FRIOM THE MIGHTY PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINKILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLER ALBUM
KK COME BACK WITH RICHIE THREE AXE ATTACK
HEAR SEE AND FEEL THE PRIEST AND METAL TO THE MAX NOT PARTIAL WITH KK BACK AND RICHIE KICKING IT UP A NOTCH,
PUSHING THE METAL FORWARD CONTINUING FROM THE MIGHTY PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINKILLLLLLLLLLLLLER ALBUM
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:32:53 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I just don't see many members here viewing everything Priest does through a rose tinted glass Jimmy. And thats just it Jimmy....Judas Priest doesn't "care" if only 3,000 people showed up,they "knew" that there wasn't going to be 25,000 plus in any city.
And "they guy who started the band" is the damn reason "Nostradamus" was "created"....if it were not for K.K. freaking Downing Nostradamus wouldn't of NEVER been written and instead we would of got a normal british heavy metal album,make no mistake about it....K.K. didn't leave because this band is declining ect.....have you ever thought that it was him who fucked the band up in the first place? Not many people do consider.....
I agree about the management milking shit and perhaps the band is at fault for this too I agree. This band isn't stupid,they want to tour and get cash I know that,if they didn't they would be a bunch of fuckin idiots right? But come on,do you think that the band members think they are going to strike it rich off a tour? NO.
They are playing to scrounge a few extra bucks yes but they are also enjoying themselves and are not only doing it for the cash,I'm sure if somebody did something they love doing for 40 years it would be hard to give up. And Priest never said they could pack in crowds by themselves,they know they can't,its not like they are acting like they actually "can" right?
I honestly belive that Guido,Spapad and Hot Rockin MetalGodess would not be giving this much credit to Rob's voice had he given a half assed performance on that individual show. His voice varies obviously....my girlfriend Victoria saw the reunion tour 2004 and said he struggled a little,but when she saw the Retribution tour he was spot on and shocked her,yet the DVD Rising In The East from that same tour wasn't as good.
Over all he can't be consistant live because of age ect....but who cares,anyone showing up for a metal concert and expects the 60 year old lead vocalist to be perfect are kidding themselves.
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:42:21 AM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:46:45 AM
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[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:58:14 PM
I DO NOT HATE THE SCREAMING FOR VENGEANCE ALBUM J.D DIAMOND THE COMMANDER . [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:23:14 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Since Rob's return they have Angel Of Retribution,at least that album is a classic Priest album and may not be thier very best but it kicks the living shit out of that pile of garbage album you love so damn much "Demolition" lol. It utterly baffles my brain,same as Hellrider hates the Screaming For Vengeance album but loves the shitty Turbo album but to each his own,just baffles my freakin brain.
And to say they haven't rocked the fuck out since Rob's return is utter bullshit. Since 2004 -2012 you think Rob hasn't had a few kick ass vocal performances? Thats retarded Budred,quit trying to be the diviant here,seems your just trying to get attention from the die hards here rather than focus on the spirit of the band here anymore.
And if you think Judas Priest should call it a day,then you wouldn't give a FUCK about the new CD.
For fucks sake this is so retarded all these people bitching about Rob's voice,on the King Diamond forum they don't bitch about the King when he has off night,on the Saxon forum they don't bitch when Biff has an off night,why is it such a serious subject when Rob struggles? Its fucking retarded,Budred he is 60 fucking years old and your still hoping he will rock out soon ect.....
give the guy a god damn break will you? Everybody else too please,just give the fuckin guy a god damn break!
I'm so sick an tired of hearing how much they suck,Rob sucks ,he can't sing anymore,they are too old,they can't sell out stadiums like Elvis if he were still alive...its all bullshit man,who in the fuck cares if Rob struggles from time to time,he does have "ON" nights too,but who cares....People should stop expecting this band to be 20 years old again.
If anyone thinks they are a fuckin "JOKE" at 60 years old wearing leather and struggling on vocals like a circus clown then they shouldn't be here,I don't think they are a Joke,I take this band very seriously.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:15:19 AM)
Budred wrote:
I didn't say "people" said Rob was struggling, I said from what I heard "I" thought Rob was struggling. I did
mention that some around me were laughing at him. I think part of the argument here is whether they were
perfect or not. Other than from Mushroomhead I've never heard a perfect performance. (That was a joke) but
seriously, when is anybody perfect. My whole gripe is that I've seen them perform so much better in the past
and that left me disappointed with the current show. I also mentioned that (for me) Richie changes their sound
and I don't like that. He's a great guitarist but Priest is different with him. Not everyone can share the same opinion
and mine only matters to me and if you guys really think Rob and or Priest was that great then so be it.
What I heard was subpar to me.
@ Headbanger
I do think that Judas should call it a day. The only reason that I'm curious about the new CD is because I still
have a desire to hear them rock the f#ck out, but, deep down I'm not expecting that. They haven't since Rob's
return but I can still have hope. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that any future enjoyment I get out of
Priest will most likely come from memories of the past.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Why listen to people that actually attended the Epitaph shows when you can listen to someone that has watched YouTube videos? Oh, I forgot, we see Priest through "rose colored glasses". No, I actually know when someone is in pitch and when they aren't unlike others. Rob was not perfect in Hammond either, but he was damn close! The entire audience was in awe of Rob that night and that is a FACT! I talked to many people on the way out and they all said the same thing.
People ran up to me in Cleveland, because I was wearing my Painkiller tour shirt, to tell me that this is the best they have heard Rob since the Painkiller tour. For every person that Budred says thought Rob was struggling, I talked to at least 10 that thought he was incredible. I filmed Beyond The Realms Of Death in Cleveland and Rob blew out the mic on my camera in several places. Anyone who has taped Priest at a show knows that the recorded version does not do them justice to actually hearing it live. But again, don't listen to the people that were AT the show, listen to the expert YouTube video reviewer telling us that Priest should pack it up.
Ever consider that people are not going to see Priest because they are listening to people that are bitching about them and saying they should quit even though they didn't go to a show?
guidogodoy wrote:
Now which is it, JJ? First you rip on Vail because she is apparently too young to have any sort of valid judgement when she says that she really liked a show or two. Then, when some of us "old folks" who have seen Priest MANY more times than you call bullshit on your comments for a concert you haven't even seen, you claim that we are also wrong. WTF?! Do I need to have an internet radio show once a week to say what I like and what I don't? Sorry, I was only the host of a real metal radio show back in the 90s. Too old to count in your book, I guess.
HRMG said it perfectly well. I have given up entire summer vacations to following Priest and, like any band, they have good nights and bad ones. Wish I had the interview at hand when Rob says that he tries to give it his all at every show but that, sometimes, his vocal chords didn't permit. KK said the same when he commented on some of his ad-libs. Sometimes they work and sometimes the whole band rolls their eyes at him. All we (or, I, at least) have said was that HAMMOND was a killer show! Sold-out crowd to interact with a magical and spot-on performance. While I was also in Detroit, I agree that Hammond was the one that should have been recorded. It was pure magic. I cannot and DO not claim the same for even the Montreal, Detroit, Nashville shows last time around.
Keep on promoting your radio show, buddy. Listing tracks and talking smack about what you haven't experienced seems to be your forté.
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
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[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:54:53 PM
MUST BE WHY KK LEFT.HE WANTED TO PUSH THE METAL FORWARD FULL ON AND IN OUR FACE MIGHTY PAAAAAAAAAINKILLLLLLLER STYLE AND THE REST OF THE BAND JUST WANTED TO GIVE US A MIXED BAG ( SKIP TRACKER ALBUM) LIKE THE PREVIOUS AND THE PREVIOUS BEFORE THAT. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:38:58 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
This is all bullshit. Yes Budred has a right to his opinion,as others do too but to critisize a 60 year old singer for not performing a flawless show is fucking retarded.
And a newsflash for Budred,Hellrider,Brain_Evans...I'm trying to find the article interview with Ian Hill when asked about the new CD....they asked him if it was heavy like the Painkiller album and Ian said NO,he said it is heavily in the vien of Angel Of Retibution so you might as well not hope for your "killer" Judas Priest album because your not getting it. Fans of Retribution have a much better chance at liking this new material.
You won't like this new material,and you won't like any live shows....looks like this band is just a nostalgia for you guys,you can still post on thier past performances and thier past albums though....yay.
(Quoting Message by Becks from Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:50:02 AM)
Becks wrote:
Well said JD, I agree. If you expect a 60 year old to do something night after night a 25 year old would struggle with, you're setting yourself up for disappointment I reckon. And who cares about the off days, lets focus on the many 'on' days!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Since Rob's return they have Angel Of Retribution,at least that album is a classic Priest album and may not be thier very best but it kicks the living shit out of that pile of garbage album you love so damn much "Demolition" lol. It utterly baffles my brain,same as Hellrider hates the Screaming For Vengeance album but loves the shitty Turbo album but to each his own,just baffles my freakin brain.
And to say they haven't rocked the fuck out since Rob's return is utter bullshit. Since 2004 -2012 you think Rob hasn't had a few kick ass vocal performances? Thats retarded Budred,quit trying to be the diviant here,seems your just trying to get attention from the die hards here rather than focus on the spirit of the band here anymore.
And if you think Judas Priest should call it a day,then you wouldn't give a FUCK about the new CD.
For fucks sake this is so retarded all these people bitching about Rob's voice,on the King Diamond forum they don't bitch about the King when he has off night,on the Saxon forum they don't bitch when Biff has an off night,why is it such a serious subject when Rob struggles? Its fucking retarded,Budred he is 60 fucking years old and your still hoping he will rock out soon ect.....
give the guy a god damn break will you? Everybody else too please,just give the fuckin guy a god damn break!
I'm so sick an tired of hearing how much they suck,Rob sucks ,he can't sing anymore,they are too old,they can't sell out stadiums like Elvis if he were still alive...its all bullshit man,who in the fuck cares if Rob struggles from time to time,he does have "ON" nights too,but who cares....People should stop expecting this band to be 20 years old again.
If anyone thinks they are a fuckin "JOKE" at 60 years old wearing leather and struggling on vocals like a circus clown then they shouldn't be here,I don't think they are a Joke,I take this band very seriously.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:15:19 AM)
Budred wrote:
I didn't say "people" said Rob was struggling, I said from what I heard "I" thought Rob was struggling. I did
mention that some around me were laughing at him. I think part of the argument here is whether they were
perfect or not. Other than from Mushroomhead I've never heard a perfect performance. (That was a joke) but
seriously, when is anybody perfect. My whole gripe is that I've seen them perform so much better in the past
and that left me disappointed with the current show. I also mentioned that (for me) Richie changes their sound
and I don't like that. He's a great guitarist but Priest is different with him. Not everyone can share the same opinion
and mine only matters to me and if you guys really think Rob and or Priest was that great then so be it.
What I heard was subpar to me.
@ Headbanger
I do think that Judas should call it a day. The only reason that I'm curious about the new CD is because I still
have a desire to hear them rock the f#ck out, but, deep down I'm not expecting that. They haven't since Rob's
return but I can still have hope. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that any future enjoyment I get out of
Priest will most likely come from memories of the past.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Why listen to people that actually attended the Epitaph shows when you can listen to someone that has watched YouTube videos? Oh, I forgot, we see Priest through "rose colored glasses". No, I actually know when someone is in pitch and when they aren't unlike others. Rob was not perfect in Hammond either, but he was damn close! The entire audience was in awe of Rob that night and that is a FACT! I talked to many people on the way out and they all said the same thing.
People ran up to me in Cleveland, because I was wearing my Painkiller tour shirt, to tell me that this is the best they have heard Rob since the Painkiller tour. For every person that Budred says thought Rob was struggling, I talked to at least 10 that thought he was incredible. I filmed Beyond The Realms Of Death in Cleveland and Rob blew out the mic on my camera in several places. Anyone who has taped Priest at a show knows that the recorded version does not do them justice to actually hearing it live. But again, don't listen to the people that were AT the show, listen to the expert YouTube video reviewer telling us that Priest should pack it up.
Ever consider that people are not going to see Priest because they are listening to people that are bitching about them and saying they should quit even though they didn't go to a show?
guidogodoy wrote:
Now which is it, JJ? First you rip on Vail because she is apparently too young to have any sort of valid judgement when she says that she really liked a show or two. Then, when some of us "old folks" who have seen Priest MANY more times than you call bullshit on your comments for a concert you haven't even seen, you claim that we are also wrong. WTF?! Do I need to have an internet radio show once a week to say what I like and what I don't? Sorry, I was only the host of a real metal radio show back in the 90s. Too old to count in your book, I guess.
HRMG said it perfectly well. I have given up entire summer vacations to following Priest and, like any band, they have good nights and bad ones. Wish I had the interview at hand when Rob says that he tries to give it his all at every show but that, sometimes, his vocal chords didn't permit. KK said the same when he commented on some of his ad-libs. Sometimes they work and sometimes the whole band rolls their eyes at him. All we (or, I, at least) have said was that HAMMOND was a killer show! Sold-out crowd to interact with a magical and spot-on performance. While I was also in Detroit, I agree that Hammond was the one that should have been recorded. It was pure magic. I cannot and DO not claim the same for even the Montreal, Detroit, Nashville shows last time around.
Keep on promoting your radio show, buddy. Listing tracks and talking smack about what you haven't experienced seems to be your forté.
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
Edited at: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:40:05 AM
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:38:58 PM
This is all bullshit. Yes Budred has a right to his opinion,as others do too but to critisize a 60 year old singer for not performing a flawless show is fucking retarded.
And a newsflash for Budred,Hellrider,Brain_Evans...I'm trying to find the article interview with Ian Hill when asked about the new CD....they asked him if it was heavy like the Painkiller album and Ian said NO,he said it is heavily in the vien of Angel Of Retibution so you might as well not hope for your "killer" Judas Priest album because your not getting it. Fans of Retribution have a much better chance at liking this new material.
You won't like this new material,and you won't like any live shows....looks like this band is just a nostalgia for you guys,you can still post on thier past performances and thier past albums though....yay.
Well said JD, I agree. If you expect a 60 year old to do something night after night a 25 year old would struggle with, you're setting yourself up for disappointment I reckon. And who cares about the off days, lets focus on the many 'on' days!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Since Rob's return they have Angel Of Retribution,at least that album is a classic Priest album and may not be thier very best but it kicks the living shit out of that pile of garbage album you love so damn much "Demolition" lol. It utterly baffles my brain,same as Hellrider hates the Screaming For Vengeance album but loves the shitty Turbo album but to each his own,just baffles my freakin brain.
And to say they haven't rocked the fuck out since Rob's return is utter bullshit. Since 2004 -2012 you think Rob hasn't had a few kick ass vocal performances? Thats retarded Budred,quit trying to be the diviant here,seems your just trying to get attention from the die hards here rather than focus on the spirit of the band here anymore.
And if you think Judas Priest should call it a day,then you wouldn't give a FUCK about the new CD.
For fucks sake this is so retarded all these people bitching about Rob's voice,on the King Diamond forum they don't bitch about the King when he has off night,on the Saxon forum they don't bitch when Biff has an off night,why is it such a serious subject when Rob struggles? Its fucking retarded,Budred he is 60 fucking years old and your still hoping he will rock out soon ect.....
give the guy a god damn break will you? Everybody else too please,just give the fuckin guy a god damn break!
I'm so sick an tired of hearing how much they suck,Rob sucks ,he can't sing anymore,they are too old,they can't sell out stadiums like Elvis if he were still alive...its all bullshit man,who in the fuck cares if Rob struggles from time to time,he does have "ON" nights too,but who cares....People should stop expecting this band to be 20 years old again.
If anyone thinks they are a fuckin "JOKE" at 60 years old wearing leather and struggling on vocals like a circus clown then they shouldn't be here,I don't think they are a Joke,I take this band very seriously.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:15:19 AM)
Budred wrote:
I didn't say "people" said Rob was struggling, I said from what I heard "I" thought Rob was struggling. I did
mention that some around me were laughing at him. I think part of the argument here is whether they were
perfect or not. Other than from Mushroomhead I've never heard a perfect performance. (That was a joke) but
seriously, when is anybody perfect. My whole gripe is that I've seen them perform so much better in the past
and that left me disappointed with the current show. I also mentioned that (for me) Richie changes their sound
and I don't like that. He's a great guitarist but Priest is different with him. Not everyone can share the same opinion
and mine only matters to me and if you guys really think Rob and or Priest was that great then so be it.
What I heard was subpar to me.
@ Headbanger
I do think that Judas should call it a day. The only reason that I'm curious about the new CD is because I still
have a desire to hear them rock the f#ck out, but, deep down I'm not expecting that. They haven't since Rob's
return but I can still have hope. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that any future enjoyment I get out of
Priest will most likely come from memories of the past.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Why listen to people that actually attended the Epitaph shows when you can listen to someone that has watched YouTube videos? Oh, I forgot, we see Priest through "rose colored glasses". No, I actually know when someone is in pitch and when they aren't unlike others. Rob was not perfect in Hammond either, but he was damn close! The entire audience was in awe of Rob that night and that is a FACT! I talked to many people on the way out and they all said the same thing.
People ran up to me in Cleveland, because I was wearing my Painkiller tour shirt, to tell me that this is the best they have heard Rob since the Painkiller tour. For every person that Budred says thought Rob was struggling, I talked to at least 10 that thought he was incredible. I filmed Beyond The Realms Of Death in Cleveland and Rob blew out the mic on my camera in several places. Anyone who has taped Priest at a show knows that the recorded version does not do them justice to actually hearing it live. But again, don't listen to the people that were AT the show, listen to the expert YouTube video reviewer telling us that Priest should pack it up.
Ever consider that people are not going to see Priest because they are listening to people that are bitching about them and saying they should quit even though they didn't go to a show?
guidogodoy wrote:
Now which is it, JJ? First you rip on Vail because she is apparently too young to have any sort of valid judgement when she says that she really liked a show or two. Then, when some of us "old folks" who have seen Priest MANY more times than you call bullshit on your comments for a concert you haven't even seen, you claim that we are also wrong. WTF?! Do I need to have an internet radio show once a week to say what I like and what I don't? Sorry, I was only the host of a real metal radio show back in the 90s. Too old to count in your book, I guess.
HRMG said it perfectly well. I have given up entire summer vacations to following Priest and, like any band, they have good nights and bad ones. Wish I had the interview at hand when Rob says that he tries to give it his all at every show but that, sometimes, his vocal chords didn't permit. KK said the same when he commented on some of his ad-libs. Sometimes they work and sometimes the whole band rolls their eyes at him. All we (or, I, at least) have said was that HAMMOND was a killer show! Sold-out crowd to interact with a magical and spot-on performance. While I was also in Detroit, I agree that Hammond was the one that should have been recorded. It was pure magic. I cannot and DO not claim the same for even the Montreal, Detroit, Nashville shows last time around.
Keep on promoting your radio show, buddy. Listing tracks and talking smack about what you haven't experienced seems to be your forté.
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
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Edited at: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:39:40 PM
[Becks] Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:50:02 AM
Well said JD, I agree. If you expect a 60 year old to do something night after night a 25 year old would struggle with, you're setting yourself up for disappointment I reckon. And who cares about the off days, lets focus on the many 'on' days!
Since Rob's return they have Angel Of Retribution,at least that album is a classic Priest album and may not be thier very best but it kicks the living shit out of that pile of garbage album you love so damn much "Demolition" lol. It utterly baffles my brain,same as Hellrider hates the Screaming For Vengeance album but loves the shitty Turbo album but to each his own,just baffles my freakin brain.
And to say they haven't rocked the fuck out since Rob's return is utter bullshit. Since 2004 -2012 you think Rob hasn't had a few kick ass vocal performances? Thats retarded Budred,quit trying to be the diviant here,seems your just trying to get attention from the die hards here rather than focus on the spirit of the band here anymore.
And if you think Judas Priest should call it a day,then you wouldn't give a FUCK about the new CD.
For fucks sake this is so retarded all these people bitching about Rob's voice,on the King Diamond forum they don't bitch about the King when he has off night,on the Saxon forum they don't bitch when Biff has an off night,why is it such a serious subject when Rob struggles? Its fucking retarded,Budred he is 60 fucking years old and your still hoping he will rock out soon ect.....
give the guy a god damn break will you? Everybody else too please,just give the fuckin guy a god damn break!
I'm so sick an tired of hearing how much they suck,Rob sucks ,he can't sing anymore,they are too old,they can't sell out stadiums like Elvis if he were still alive...its all bullshit man,who in the fuck cares if Rob struggles from time to time,he does have "ON" nights too,but who cares....People should stop expecting this band to be 20 years old again.
If anyone thinks they are a fuckin "JOKE" at 60 years old wearing leather and struggling on vocals like a circus clown then they shouldn't be here,I don't think they are a Joke,I take this band very seriously.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:15:19 AM)
Budred wrote:
I didn't say "people" said Rob was struggling, I said from what I heard "I" thought Rob was struggling. I did
mention that some around me were laughing at him. I think part of the argument here is whether they were
perfect or not. Other than from Mushroomhead I've never heard a perfect performance. (That was a joke) but
seriously, when is anybody perfect. My whole gripe is that I've seen them perform so much better in the past
and that left me disappointed with the current show. I also mentioned that (for me) Richie changes their sound
and I don't like that. He's a great guitarist but Priest is different with him. Not everyone can share the same opinion
and mine only matters to me and if you guys really think Rob and or Priest was that great then so be it.
What I heard was subpar to me.
@ Headbanger
I do think that Judas should call it a day. The only reason that I'm curious about the new CD is because I still
have a desire to hear them rock the f#ck out, but, deep down I'm not expecting that. They haven't since Rob's
return but I can still have hope. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that any future enjoyment I get out of
Priest will most likely come from memories of the past.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Why listen to people that actually attended the Epitaph shows when you can listen to someone that has watched YouTube videos? Oh, I forgot, we see Priest through "rose colored glasses". No, I actually know when someone is in pitch and when they aren't unlike others. Rob was not perfect in Hammond either, but he was damn close! The entire audience was in awe of Rob that night and that is a FACT! I talked to many people on the way out and they all said the same thing.
People ran up to me in Cleveland, because I was wearing my Painkiller tour shirt, to tell me that this is the best they have heard Rob since the Painkiller tour. For every person that Budred says thought Rob was struggling, I talked to at least 10 that thought he was incredible. I filmed Beyond The Realms Of Death in Cleveland and Rob blew out the mic on my camera in several places. Anyone who has taped Priest at a show knows that the recorded version does not do them justice to actually hearing it live. But again, don't listen to the people that were AT the show, listen to the expert YouTube video reviewer telling us that Priest should pack it up.
Ever consider that people are not going to see Priest because they are listening to people that are bitching about them and saying they should quit even though they didn't go to a show?
guidogodoy wrote:
Now which is it, JJ? First you rip on Vail because she is apparently too young to have any sort of valid judgement when she says that she really liked a show or two. Then, when some of us "old folks" who have seen Priest MANY more times than you call bullshit on your comments for a concert you haven't even seen, you claim that we are also wrong. WTF?! Do I need to have an internet radio show once a week to say what I like and what I don't? Sorry, I was only the host of a real metal radio show back in the 90s. Too old to count in your book, I guess.
HRMG said it perfectly well. I have given up entire summer vacations to following Priest and, like any band, they have good nights and bad ones. Wish I had the interview at hand when Rob says that he tries to give it his all at every show but that, sometimes, his vocal chords didn't permit. KK said the same when he commented on some of his ad-libs. Sometimes they work and sometimes the whole band rolls their eyes at him. All we (or, I, at least) have said was that HAMMOND was a killer show! Sold-out crowd to interact with a magical and spot-on performance. While I was also in Detroit, I agree that Hammond was the one that should have been recorded. It was pure magic. I cannot and DO not claim the same for even the Montreal, Detroit, Nashville shows last time around.
Keep on promoting your radio show, buddy. Listing tracks and talking smack about what you haven't experienced seems to be your forté.
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
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[Brian_Evans] Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:08:23 AM
Have to agree with Bud and Jimmy here, Priest haven't done anything magical in the studio since Halford returned to the band years ago. Big dissapointment. But they can still change some of that with a new killer album.
@ Diamond - King Diamond and Buff were not in the same league as Halford was in his prime so thats probably why you don't hear as many complaints. Edited at: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:36:38 AM
[Budred] Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:07:42 AM
When I said they haven't rocked out ...I was referring to music.
A.O.R. to me is good at best. Other than that, nothing. I've loved their
live shows up until the British Steel Tour two years ago, I just didn't care
for the last show. Why is that deviant? I guess I'm just supposed to go with
the masses? I like Priest sounding like Priest and to me they sounded
different. I'm not looking for attention either.
I've gotten all the attention that I've needed here in the past and
bite my tongue quite often so it doesn't start again. If I don't think Rob sounded
as good as the past and if I think they sound different with Ritchie and if I don't
have to much to go on by way of faith for a kick ass new CD and that makes me
a deviant then I guess that's what I'll be. I haven't criticized a single person
who saw the show and liked it nor have I called them crazy for liking it.
You're trying to prove something that you haven't even seen, I'm just giving
an opinion of something I have. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:23:14 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Since Rob's return they have Angel Of Retribution,at least that album is a classic Priest album and may not be thier very best but it kicks the living shit out of that pile of garbage album you love so damn much "Demolition" lol. It utterly baffles my brain,same as Hellrider hates the Screaming For Vengeance album but loves the shitty Turbo album but to each his own,just baffles my freakin brain.
And to say they haven't rocked the fuck out since Rob's return is utter bullshit. Since 2004 -2012 you think Rob hasn't had a few kick ass vocal performances? Thats retarded Budred,quit trying to be the diviant here,seems your just trying to get attention from the die hards here rather than focus on the spirit of the band here anymore.
And if you think Judas Priest should call it a day,then you wouldn't give a FUCK about the new CD.
For fucks sake this is so retarded all these people bitching about Rob's voice,on the King Diamond forum they don't bitch about the King when he has off night,on the Saxon forum they don't bitch when Biff has an off night,why is it such a serious subject when Rob struggles? Its fucking retarded,Budred he is 60 fucking years old and your still hoping he will rock out soon ect.....
give the guy a god damn break will you? Everybody else too please,just give the fuckin guy a god damn break!
I'm so sick an tired of hearing how much they suck,Rob sucks ,he can't sing anymore,they are too old,they can't sell out stadiums like Elvis if he were still alive...its all bullshit man,who in the fuck cares if Rob struggles from time to time,he does have "ON" nights too,but who cares....People should stop expecting this band to be 20 years old again.
If anyone thinks they are a fuckin "JOKE" at 60 years old wearing leather and struggling on vocals like a circus clown then they shouldn't be here,I don't think they are a Joke,I take this band very seriously.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:15:19 AM)
Budred wrote:
I didn't say "people" said Rob was struggling, I said from what I heard "I" thought Rob was struggling. I did
mention that some around me were laughing at him. I think part of the argument here is whether they were
perfect or not. Other than from Mushroomhead I've never heard a perfect performance. (That was a joke) but
seriously, when is anybody perfect. My whole gripe is that I've seen them perform so much better in the past
and that left me disappointed with the current show. I also mentioned that (for me) Richie changes their sound
and I don't like that. He's a great guitarist but Priest is different with him. Not everyone can share the same opinion
and mine only matters to me and if you guys really think Rob and or Priest was that great then so be it.
What I heard was subpar to me.
@ Headbanger
I do think that Judas should call it a day. The only reason that I'm curious about the new CD is because I still
have a desire to hear them rock the f#ck out, but, deep down I'm not expecting that. They haven't since Rob's
return but I can still have hope. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that any future enjoyment I get out of
Priest will most likely come from memories of the past.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Why listen to people that actually attended the Epitaph shows when you can listen to someone that has watched YouTube videos? Oh, I forgot, we see Priest through "rose colored glasses". No, I actually know when someone is in pitch and when they aren't unlike others. Rob was not perfect in Hammond either, but he was damn close! The entire audience was in awe of Rob that night and that is a FACT! I talked to many people on the way out and they all said the same thing.
People ran up to me in Cleveland, because I was wearing my Painkiller tour shirt, to tell me that this is the best they have heard Rob since the Painkiller tour. For every person that Budred says thought Rob was struggling, I talked to at least 10 that thought he was incredible. I filmed Beyond The Realms Of Death in Cleveland and Rob blew out the mic on my camera in several places. Anyone who has taped Priest at a show knows that the recorded version does not do them justice to actually hearing it live. But again, don't listen to the people that were AT the show, listen to the expert YouTube video reviewer telling us that Priest should pack it up.
Ever consider that people are not going to see Priest because they are listening to people that are bitching about them and saying they should quit even though they didn't go to a show?
guidogodoy wrote:
Now which is it, JJ? First you rip on Vail because she is apparently too young to have any sort of valid judgement when she says that she really liked a show or two. Then, when some of us "old folks" who have seen Priest MANY more times than you call bullshit on your comments for a concert you haven't even seen, you claim that we are also wrong. WTF?! Do I need to have an internet radio show once a week to say what I like and what I don't? Sorry, I was only the host of a real metal radio show back in the 90s. Too old to count in your book, I guess.
HRMG said it perfectly well. I have given up entire summer vacations to following Priest and, like any band, they have good nights and bad ones. Wish I had the interview at hand when Rob says that he tries to give it his all at every show but that, sometimes, his vocal chords didn't permit. KK said the same when he commented on some of his ad-libs. Sometimes they work and sometimes the whole band rolls their eyes at him. All we (or, I, at least) have said was that HAMMOND was a killer show! Sold-out crowd to interact with a magical and spot-on performance. While I was also in Detroit, I agree that Hammond was the one that should have been recorded. It was pure magic. I cannot and DO not claim the same for even the Montreal, Detroit, Nashville shows last time around.
Keep on promoting your radio show, buddy. Listing tracks and talking smack about what you haven't experienced seems to be your forté.
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
Edited at: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:40:05 AM
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:21:22 AM
Couldn't agree with you more. I think Rob set the bar so high for himself that everyone still expects him to reach it every single night. Well, that is impossible for any singer to do - PERIOD! Hell, he had off nights back in the 70's and 80's too and he'll tell you that himself. And you brought up the point that is totally pissing me off here - everyone bitching about Rob having a bad night here and there. SO WHAT??!?!?! None of the rest of the band is perfect either by the way, but we don't hear anything about that. No one bitches about other vocalists but people always rip on Rob and it really pisses me off. What he can still do at this age is absolutely incredible and I am so thankful that I was able to experience it again and to take my sons to see Priest and see what a REAL heavy metal band is. They know this show was the best they will ever see - they still talk about it. I wonder how many people know that Geoff Tate blew his voice out while touring with Priest in England? He was no doubt trying to keep up with Rob and couldn't and Queensryche had to cancel a week of shows here in the States. Rob has taken extremely good care of himself and can still hit everything on an on night - most vocalists half his age can't do that! SO STOP BITCHING!!!
I take this band extremely seriously as well because they mean the world to me and they always will - good nights and not so good nights, I'll take them all because they ALWAYS give it 1000% on stage and that's really what matters. It's ROCK 'N ROLL man, it's never perfect!
Since Rob's return they have Angel Of Retribution,at least that album is a classic Priest album and may not be thier very best but it kicks the living shit out of that pile of garbage album you love so damn much "Demolition" lol. It utterly baffles my brain,same as Hellrider hates the Screaming For Vengeance album but loves the shitty Turbo album but to each his own,just baffles my freakin brain.
And to say they haven't rocked the fuck out since Rob's return is utter bullshit. Since 2004 -2012 you think Rob hasn't had a few kick ass vocal performances? Thats retarded Budred,quit trying to be the diviant here,seems your just trying to get attention from the die hards here rather than focus on the spirit of the band here anymore.
And if you think Judas Priest should call it a day,then you wouldn't give a FUCK about the new CD.
For fucks sake this is so retarded all these people bitching about Rob's voice,on the King Diamond forum they don't bitch about the King when he has off night,on the Saxon forum they don't bitch when Biff has an off night,why is it such a serious subject when Rob struggles? Its fucking retarded,Budred he is 60 fucking years old and your still hoping he will rock out soon ect.....
give the guy a god damn break will you? Everybody else too please,just give the fuckin guy a god damn break!
I'm so sick an tired of hearing how much they suck,Rob sucks ,he can't sing anymore,they are too old,they can't sell out stadiums like Elvis if he were still alive...its all bullshit man,who in the fuck cares if Rob struggles from time to time,he does have "ON" nights too,but who cares....People should stop expecting this band to be 20 years old again.
If anyone thinks they are a fuckin "JOKE" at 60 years old wearing leather and struggling on vocals like a circus clown then they shouldn't be here,I don't think they are a Joke,I take this band very seriously.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:15:19 AM)
Budred wrote:
I didn't say "people" said Rob was struggling, I said from what I heard "I" thought Rob was struggling. I did
mention that some around me were laughing at him. I think part of the argument here is whether they were
perfect or not. Other than from Mushroomhead I've never heard a perfect performance. (That was a joke) but
seriously, when is anybody perfect. My whole gripe is that I've seen them perform so much better in the past
and that left me disappointed with the current show. I also mentioned that (for me) Richie changes their sound
and I don't like that. He's a great guitarist but Priest is different with him. Not everyone can share the same opinion
and mine only matters to me and if you guys really think Rob and or Priest was that great then so be it.
What I heard was subpar to me.
@ Headbanger
I do think that Judas should call it a day. The only reason that I'm curious about the new CD is because I still
have a desire to hear them rock the f#ck out, but, deep down I'm not expecting that. They haven't since Rob's
return but I can still have hope. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that any future enjoyment I get out of
Priest will most likely come from memories of the past.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Why listen to people that actually attended the Epitaph shows when you can listen to someone that has watched YouTube videos? Oh, I forgot, we see Priest through "rose colored glasses". No, I actually know when someone is in pitch and when they aren't unlike others. Rob was not perfect in Hammond either, but he was damn close! The entire audience was in awe of Rob that night and that is a FACT! I talked to many people on the way out and they all said the same thing.
People ran up to me in Cleveland, because I was wearing my Painkiller tour shirt, to tell me that this is the best they have heard Rob since the Painkiller tour. For every person that Budred says thought Rob was struggling, I talked to at least 10 that thought he was incredible. I filmed Beyond The Realms Of Death in Cleveland and Rob blew out the mic on my camera in several places. Anyone who has taped Priest at a show knows that the recorded version does not do them justice to actually hearing it live. But again, don't listen to the people that were AT the show, listen to the expert YouTube video reviewer telling us that Priest should pack it up.
Ever consider that people are not going to see Priest because they are listening to people that are bitching about them and saying they should quit even though they didn't go to a show?
guidogodoy wrote:
Now which is it, JJ? First you rip on Vail because she is apparently too young to have any sort of valid judgement when she says that she really liked a show or two. Then, when some of us "old folks" who have seen Priest MANY more times than you call bullshit on your comments for a concert you haven't even seen, you claim that we are also wrong. WTF?! Do I need to have an internet radio show once a week to say what I like and what I don't? Sorry, I was only the host of a real metal radio show back in the 90s. Too old to count in your book, I guess.
HRMG said it perfectly well. I have given up entire summer vacations to following Priest and, like any band, they have good nights and bad ones. Wish I had the interview at hand when Rob says that he tries to give it his all at every show but that, sometimes, his vocal chords didn't permit. KK said the same when he commented on some of his ad-libs. Sometimes they work and sometimes the whole band rolls their eyes at him. All we (or, I, at least) have said was that HAMMOND was a killer show! Sold-out crowd to interact with a magical and spot-on performance. While I was also in Detroit, I agree that Hammond was the one that should have been recorded. It was pure magic. I cannot and DO not claim the same for even the Montreal, Detroit, Nashville shows last time around.
Keep on promoting your radio show, buddy. Listing tracks and talking smack about what you haven't experienced seems to be your forté.
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
Edited at: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:40:05 AM
[Head banger] Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:15:56 AM
I think AOR kicked ass. if they could duplicate that energy an style I would be happy. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:15:19 AM)
Budred wrote:
I didn't say "people" said Rob was struggling, I said from what I heard "I" thought Rob was struggling. I did
mention that some around me were laughing at him. I think part of the argument here is whether they were
perfect or not. Other than from Mushroomhead I've never heard a perfect performance. (That was a joke) but
seriously, when is anybody perfect. My whole gripe is that I've seen them perform so much better in the past
and that left me disappointed with the current show. I also mentioned that (for me) Richie changes their sound
and I don't like that. He's a great guitarist but Priest is different with him. Not everyone can share the same opinion
and mine only matters to me and if you guys really think Rob and or Priest was that great then so be it.
What I heard was subpar to me.
@ Headbanger
I do think that Judas should call it a day. The only reason that I'm curious about the new CD is because I still
have a desire to hear them rock the f#ck out, but, deep down I'm not expecting that. They haven't since Rob's
return but I can still have hope. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that any future enjoyment I get out of
Priest will most likely come from memories of the past.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Why listen to people that actually attended the Epitaph shows when you can listen to someone that has watched YouTube videos? Oh, I forgot, we see Priest through "rose colored glasses". No, I actually know when someone is in pitch and when they aren't unlike others. Rob was not perfect in Hammond either, but he was damn close! The entire audience was in awe of Rob that night and that is a FACT! I talked to many people on the way out and they all said the same thing.
People ran up to me in Cleveland, because I was wearing my Painkiller tour shirt, to tell me that this is the best they have heard Rob since the Painkiller tour. For every person that Budred says thought Rob was struggling, I talked to at least 10 that thought he was incredible. I filmed Beyond The Realms Of Death in Cleveland and Rob blew out the mic on my camera in several places. Anyone who has taped Priest at a show knows that the recorded version does not do them justice to actually hearing it live. But again, don't listen to the people that were AT the show, listen to the expert YouTube video reviewer telling us that Priest should pack it up.
Ever consider that people are not going to see Priest because they are listening to people that are bitching about them and saying they should quit even though they didn't go to a show?
guidogodoy wrote:
Now which is it, JJ? First you rip on Vail because she is apparently too young to have any sort of valid judgement when she says that she really liked a show or two. Then, when some of us "old folks" who have seen Priest MANY more times than you call bullshit on your comments for a concert you haven't even seen, you claim that we are also wrong. WTF?! Do I need to have an internet radio show once a week to say what I like and what I don't? Sorry, I was only the host of a real metal radio show back in the 90s. Too old to count in your book, I guess.
HRMG said it perfectly well. I have given up entire summer vacations to following Priest and, like any band, they have good nights and bad ones. Wish I had the interview at hand when Rob says that he tries to give it his all at every show but that, sometimes, his vocal chords didn't permit. KK said the same when he commented on some of his ad-libs. Sometimes they work and sometimes the whole band rolls their eyes at him. All we (or, I, at least) have said was that HAMMOND was a killer show! Sold-out crowd to interact with a magical and spot-on performance. While I was also in Detroit, I agree that Hammond was the one that should have been recorded. It was pure magic. I cannot and DO not claim the same for even the Montreal, Detroit, Nashville shows last time around.
Keep on promoting your radio show, buddy. Listing tracks and talking smack about what you haven't experienced seems to be your forté.
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:04:41 AM
Yes, Richie changes their sound for sure and I think some people are OK with that and others are not. I'm OK with it because he is helping my favorite band live on and he is a hell of a nice guy BTW. Would I rather have KK? 100% YES!!! But life goes on and we have to move forward.
I have a question for you about the Cleveland show - did you see when Rob made a smoking a joint gesture to Scott during the show and then after the song was over, Rob yelled at Richie "WTF Richie?" Richie just shrugged. I think it was because Richie was freestyling, but I'm not totally sure. Did you catch that? I'm not sure that I like everything he was doing, but I did really like his freestyling during YGATC.
I didn't say "people" said Rob was struggling, I said from what I heard "I" thought Rob was struggling. I did
mention that some around me were laughing at him. I think part of the argument here is whether they were
perfect or not. Other than from Mushroomhead I've never heard a perfect performance. (That was a joke) but
seriously, when is anybody perfect. My whole gripe is that I've seen them perform so much better in the past
and that left me disappointed with the current show. I also mentioned that (for me) Richie changes their sound
and I don't like that. He's a great guitarist but Priest is different with him. Not everyone can share the same opinion
and mine only matters to me and if you guys really think Rob and or Priest was that great then so be it.
What I heard was subpar to me.
@ Headbanger
I do think that Judas should call it a day. The only reason that I'm curious about the new CD is because I still
have a desire to hear them rock the f#ck out, but, deep down I'm not expecting that. They haven't since Rob's
return but I can still have hope. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that any future enjoyment I get out of
Priest will most likely come from memories of the past.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Why listen to people that actually attended the Epitaph shows when you can listen to someone that has watched YouTube videos? Oh, I forgot, we see Priest through "rose colored glasses". No, I actually know when someone is in pitch and when they aren't unlike others. Rob was not perfect in Hammond either, but he was damn close! The entire audience was in awe of Rob that night and that is a FACT! I talked to many people on the way out and they all said the same thing.
People ran up to me in Cleveland, because I was wearing my Painkiller tour shirt, to tell me that this is the best they have heard Rob since the Painkiller tour. For every person that Budred says thought Rob was struggling, I talked to at least 10 that thought he was incredible. I filmed Beyond The Realms Of Death in Cleveland and Rob blew out the mic on my camera in several places. Anyone who has taped Priest at a show knows that the recorded version does not do them justice to actually hearing it live. But again, don't listen to the people that were AT the show, listen to the expert YouTube video reviewer telling us that Priest should pack it up.
Ever consider that people are not going to see Priest because they are listening to people that are bitching about them and saying they should quit even though they didn't go to a show?
guidogodoy wrote:
Now which is it, JJ? First you rip on Vail because she is apparently too young to have any sort of valid judgement when she says that she really liked a show or two. Then, when some of us "old folks" who have seen Priest MANY more times than you call bullshit on your comments for a concert you haven't even seen, you claim that we are also wrong. WTF?! Do I need to have an internet radio show once a week to say what I like and what I don't? Sorry, I was only the host of a real metal radio show back in the 90s. Too old to count in your book, I guess.
HRMG said it perfectly well. I have given up entire summer vacations to following Priest and, like any band, they have good nights and bad ones. Wish I had the interview at hand when Rob says that he tries to give it his all at every show but that, sometimes, his vocal chords didn't permit. KK said the same when he commented on some of his ad-libs. Sometimes they work and sometimes the whole band rolls their eyes at him. All we (or, I, at least) have said was that HAMMOND was a killer show! Sold-out crowd to interact with a magical and spot-on performance. While I was also in Detroit, I agree that Hammond was the one that should have been recorded. It was pure magic. I cannot and DO not claim the same for even the Montreal, Detroit, Nashville shows last time around.
Keep on promoting your radio show, buddy. Listing tracks and talking smack about what you haven't experienced seems to be your forté.
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:23:14 AM
Since Rob's return they have Angel Of Retribution,at least that album is a classic Priest album and may not be thier very best but it kicks the living shit out of that pile of garbage album you love so damn much "Demolition" lol. It utterly baffles my brain,same as Hellrider hates the Screaming For Vengeance album but loves the shitty Turbo album but to each his own,just baffles my freakin brain.
And to say they haven't rocked the fuck out since Rob's return is utter bullshit. Since 2004 -2012 you think Rob hasn't had a few kick ass vocal performances? Thats retarded Budred,quit trying to be the diviant here,seems your just trying to get attention from the die hards here rather than focus on the spirit of the band here anymore.
And if you think Judas Priest should call it a day,then you wouldn't give a FUCK about the new CD.
For fucks sake this is so retarded all these people bitching about Rob's voice,on the King Diamond forum they don't bitch about the King when he has off night,on the Saxon forum they don't bitch when Biff has an off night,why is it such a serious subject when Rob struggles? Its fucking retarded,Budred he is 60 fucking years old and your still hoping he will rock out soon ect.....
give the guy a god damn break will you? Everybody else too please,just give the fuckin guy a god damn break!
I'm so sick an tired of hearing how much they suck,Rob sucks ,he can't sing anymore,they are too old,they can't sell out stadiums like Elvis if he were still alive...its all bullshit man,who in the fuck cares if Rob struggles from time to time,he does have "ON" nights too,but who cares....People should stop expecting this band to be 20 years old again.
If anyone thinks they are a fuckin "JOKE" at 60 years old wearing leather and struggling on vocals like a circus clown then they shouldn't be here,I don't think they are a Joke,I take this band very seriously.
I didn't say "people" said Rob was struggling, I said from what I heard "I" thought Rob was struggling. I did
mention that some around me were laughing at him. I think part of the argument here is whether they were
perfect or not. Other than from Mushroomhead I've never heard a perfect performance. (That was a joke) but
seriously, when is anybody perfect. My whole gripe is that I've seen them perform so much better in the past
and that left me disappointed with the current show. I also mentioned that (for me) Richie changes their sound
and I don't like that. He's a great guitarist but Priest is different with him. Not everyone can share the same opinion
and mine only matters to me and if you guys really think Rob and or Priest was that great then so be it.
What I heard was subpar to me.
@ Headbanger
I do think that Judas should call it a day. The only reason that I'm curious about the new CD is because I still
have a desire to hear them rock the f#ck out, but, deep down I'm not expecting that. They haven't since Rob's
return but I can still have hope. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that any future enjoyment I get out of
Priest will most likely come from memories of the past.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Why listen to people that actually attended the Epitaph shows when you can listen to someone that has watched YouTube videos? Oh, I forgot, we see Priest through "rose colored glasses". No, I actually know when someone is in pitch and when they aren't unlike others. Rob was not perfect in Hammond either, but he was damn close! The entire audience was in awe of Rob that night and that is a FACT! I talked to many people on the way out and they all said the same thing.
People ran up to me in Cleveland, because I was wearing my Painkiller tour shirt, to tell me that this is the best they have heard Rob since the Painkiller tour. For every person that Budred says thought Rob was struggling, I talked to at least 10 that thought he was incredible. I filmed Beyond The Realms Of Death in Cleveland and Rob blew out the mic on my camera in several places. Anyone who has taped Priest at a show knows that the recorded version does not do them justice to actually hearing it live. But again, don't listen to the people that were AT the show, listen to the expert YouTube video reviewer telling us that Priest should pack it up.
Ever consider that people are not going to see Priest because they are listening to people that are bitching about them and saying they should quit even though they didn't go to a show?
guidogodoy wrote:
Now which is it, JJ? First you rip on Vail because she is apparently too young to have any sort of valid judgement when she says that she really liked a show or two. Then, when some of us "old folks" who have seen Priest MANY more times than you call bullshit on your comments for a concert you haven't even seen, you claim that we are also wrong. WTF?! Do I need to have an internet radio show once a week to say what I like and what I don't? Sorry, I was only the host of a real metal radio show back in the 90s. Too old to count in your book, I guess.
HRMG said it perfectly well. I have given up entire summer vacations to following Priest and, like any band, they have good nights and bad ones. Wish I had the interview at hand when Rob says that he tries to give it his all at every show but that, sometimes, his vocal chords didn't permit. KK said the same when he commented on some of his ad-libs. Sometimes they work and sometimes the whole band rolls their eyes at him. All we (or, I, at least) have said was that HAMMOND was a killer show! Sold-out crowd to interact with a magical and spot-on performance. While I was also in Detroit, I agree that Hammond was the one that should have been recorded. It was pure magic. I cannot and DO not claim the same for even the Montreal, Detroit, Nashville shows last time around.
Keep on promoting your radio show, buddy. Listing tracks and talking smack about what you haven't experienced seems to be your forté.
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
Edited at: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:40:05 AM
[Budred] Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:15:19 AM
I didn't say "people" said Rob was struggling, I said from what I heard "I" thought Rob was struggling. I did
mention that some around me were laughing at him. I think part of the argument here is whether they were
perfect or not. Other than from Mushroomhead I've never heard a perfect performance. (That was a joke) but
seriously, when is anybody perfect. My whole gripe is that I've seen them perform so much better in the past
and that left me disappointed with the current show. I also mentioned that (for me) Richie changes their sound
and I don't like that. He's a great guitarist but Priest is different with him. Not everyone can share the same opinion
and mine only matters to me and if you guys really think Rob and or Priest was that great then so be it.
What I heard was subpar to me.
@ Headbanger
I do think that Judas should call it a day. The only reason that I'm curious about the new CD is because I still
have a desire to hear them rock the f#ck out, but, deep down I'm not expecting that. They haven't since Rob's
return but I can still have hope. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that any future enjoyment I get out of
Priest will most likely come from memories of the past.
Why listen to people that actually attended the Epitaph shows when you can listen to someone that has watched YouTube videos? Oh, I forgot, we see Priest through "rose colored glasses". No, I actually know when someone is in pitch and when they aren't unlike others. Rob was not perfect in Hammond either, but he was damn close! The entire audience was in awe of Rob that night and that is a FACT! I talked to many people on the way out and they all said the same thing.
People ran up to me in Cleveland, because I was wearing my Painkiller tour shirt, to tell me that this is the best they have heard Rob since the Painkiller tour. For every person that Budred says thought Rob was struggling, I talked to at least 10 that thought he was incredible. I filmed Beyond The Realms Of Death in Cleveland and Rob blew out the mic on my camera in several places. Anyone who has taped Priest at a show knows that the recorded version does not do them justice to actually hearing it live. But again, don't listen to the people that were AT the show, listen to the expert YouTube video reviewer telling us that Priest should pack it up.
Ever consider that people are not going to see Priest because they are listening to people that are bitching about them and saying they should quit even though they didn't go to a show?
guidogodoy wrote:
Now which is it, JJ? First you rip on Vail because she is apparently too young to have any sort of valid judgement when she says that she really liked a show or two. Then, when some of us "old folks" who have seen Priest MANY more times than you call bullshit on your comments for a concert you haven't even seen, you claim that we are also wrong. WTF?! Do I need to have an internet radio show once a week to say what I like and what I don't? Sorry, I was only the host of a real metal radio show back in the 90s. Too old to count in your book, I guess.
HRMG said it perfectly well. I have given up entire summer vacations to following Priest and, like any band, they have good nights and bad ones. Wish I had the interview at hand when Rob says that he tries to give it his all at every show but that, sometimes, his vocal chords didn't permit. KK said the same when he commented on some of his ad-libs. Sometimes they work and sometimes the whole band rolls their eyes at him. All we (or, I, at least) have said was that HAMMOND was a killer show! Sold-out crowd to interact with a magical and spot-on performance. While I was also in Detroit, I agree that Hammond was the one that should have been recorded. It was pure magic. I cannot and DO not claim the same for even the Montreal, Detroit, Nashville shows last time around.
Keep on promoting your radio show, buddy. Listing tracks and talking smack about what you haven't experienced seems to be your forté.
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:01:06 AM
No you are wrong hellrider. Your K.K. Knight in shinning armor "IS" the very reason the nostrashit album was made. I know this for a fact and would "bet my son's life on it". Thats what "I know". You are sadly mistaken Hellrider. Downing fucked up the band while 99% of the fans on here don't want to belive it,its fuckin true and its even more frustrating reading shit how K.K. walked away because of this and that....bullshit.
KK IS NOT THE REASON N WAS WRITTEN J.D DIAMOND THE COMMANDER AND THAT IS A RANDOM FACT.
N CAME TO THEM
CLICK THE WIDGET
MY FELLOW DEFENDERS OF THE FAITH
KK COME BACK WITH RICHIE THREE AXE ATTACK
HEAR SEE AND FEEL THE PRIEST AND METAL TO THE MAX NOT PARTIAL
WITH KK BACK AND RICHIE KICKING IT UP A NOTCH
PUSHING THE METAL FORWARD, CONTINUING FRIOM THE MIGHTY PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINKILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLER ALBUM
KK COME BACK WITH RICHIE THREE AXE ATTACK
HEAR SEE AND FEEL THE PRIEST AND METAL TO THE MAX NOT PARTIAL WITH KK BACK AND RICHIE KICKING IT UP A NOTCH,
PUSHING THE METAL FORWARD CONTINUING FROM THE MIGHTY PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINKILLLLLLLLLLLLLER ALBUM
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:32:53 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I just don't see many members here viewing everything Priest does through a rose tinted glass Jimmy. And thats just it Jimmy....Judas Priest doesn't "care" if only 3,000 people showed up,they "knew" that there wasn't going to be 25,000 plus in any city.
And "they guy who started the band" is the damn reason "Nostradamus" was "created"....if it were not for K.K. freaking Downing Nostradamus wouldn't of NEVER been written and instead we would of got a normal british heavy metal album,make no mistake about it....K.K. didn't leave because this band is declining ect.....have you ever thought that it was him who fucked the band up in the first place? Not many people do consider.....
I agree about the management milking shit and perhaps the band is at fault for this too I agree. This band isn't stupid,they want to tour and get cash I know that,if they didn't they would be a bunch of fuckin idiots right? But come on,do you think that the band members think they are going to strike it rich off a tour? NO.
They are playing to scrounge a few extra bucks yes but they are also enjoying themselves and are not only doing it for the cash,I'm sure if somebody did something they love doing for 40 years it would be hard to give up. And Priest never said they could pack in crowds by themselves,they know they can't,its not like they are acting like they actually "can" right?
I honestly belive that Guido,Spapad and Hot Rockin MetalGodess would not be giving this much credit to Rob's voice had he given a half assed performance on that individual show. His voice varies obviously....my girlfriend Victoria saw the reunion tour 2004 and said he struggled a little,but when she saw the Retribution tour he was spot on and shocked her,yet the DVD Rising In The East from that same tour wasn't as good.
Over all he can't be consistant live because of age ect....but who cares,anyone showing up for a metal concert and expects the 60 year old lead vocalist to be perfect are kidding themselves.
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:42:21 AM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:46:45 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 6:33:13 PM Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 6:42:30 PM
Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 6:45:58 PM
[Vaillant 3.0] Wednesday, January 18, 2012 12:19:47 AM
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I still say that JP should release a new album/live DVD combo.
[Brian_Evans] Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:20:29 PM
Bring it on man!! Painkiller swagger with 3 axe attack!!!
KK IS NOT THE REASON N WAS WRITTEN J.D DIAMOND THE COMMANDER AND THAT IS A RANDOM FACT.
N CAME TO THEM
CLICK THE WIDGET
MY FELLOW DEFENDERS OF THE FAITH
KK COME BACK WITH RICHIE THREE AXE ATTACK
HEAR SEE AND FEEL THE PRIEST AND METAL TO THE MAX NOT PARTIAL
WITH KK BACK AND RICHIE KICKING IT UP A NOTCH
PUSHING THE METAL FORWARD, CONTINUING FRIOM THE MIGHTY PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINKILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLER ALBUM
KK COME BACK WITH RICHIE THREE AXE ATTACK
HEAR SEE AND FEEL THE PRIEST AND METAL TO THE MAX NOT PARTIAL WITH KK BACK AND RICHIE KICKING IT UP A NOTCH,
PUSHING THE METAL FORWARD CONTINUING FROM THE MIGHTY PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINKILLLLLLLLLLLLLER ALBUM
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:32:53 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I just don't see many members here viewing everything Priest does through a rose tinted glass Jimmy. And thats just it Jimmy....Judas Priest doesn't "care" if only 3,000 people showed up,they "knew" that there wasn't going to be 25,000 plus in any city.
And "they guy who started the band" is the damn reason "Nostradamus" was "created"....if it were not for K.K. freaking Downing Nostradamus wouldn't of NEVER been written and instead we would of got a normal british heavy metal album,make no mistake about it....K.K. didn't leave because this band is declining ect.....have you ever thought that it was him who fucked the band up in the first place? Not many people do consider.....
I agree about the management milking shit and perhaps the band is at fault for this too I agree. This band isn't stupid,they want to tour and get cash I know that,if they didn't they would be a bunch of fuckin idiots right? But come on,do you think that the band members think they are going to strike it rich off a tour? NO.
They are playing to scrounge a few extra bucks yes but they are also enjoying themselves and are not only doing it for the cash,I'm sure if somebody did something they love doing for 40 years it would be hard to give up. And Priest never said they could pack in crowds by themselves,they know they can't,its not like they are acting like they actually "can" right?
I honestly belive that Guido,Spapad and Hot Rockin MetalGodess would not be giving this much credit to Rob's voice had he given a half assed performance on that individual show. His voice varies obviously....my girlfriend Victoria saw the reunion tour 2004 and said he struggled a little,but when she saw the Retribution tour he was spot on and shocked her,yet the DVD Rising In The East from that same tour wasn't as good.
Over all he can't be consistant live because of age ect....but who cares,anyone showing up for a metal concert and expects the 60 year old lead vocalist to be perfect are kidding themselves.
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:42:21 AM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:46:45 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 6:33:13 PM Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 6:42:30 PM
Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 6:45:58 PM
Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:23:54 PM
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:02:38 PM
Why listen to people that actually attended the Epitaph shows when you can listen to someone that has watched YouTube videos? Oh, I forgot, we see Priest through "rose colored glasses". No, I actually know when someone is in pitch and when they aren't unlike others. Rob was not perfect in Hammond either, but he was damn close! The entire audience was in awe of Rob that night and that is a FACT! I talked to many people on the way out and they all said the same thing.
People ran up to me in Cleveland, because I was wearing my Painkiller tour shirt, to tell me that this is the best they have heard Rob since the Painkiller tour. For every person that Budred says thought Rob was struggling, I talked to at least 10 that thought he was incredible. I filmed Beyond The Realms Of Death in Cleveland and Rob blew out the mic on my camera in several places. Anyone who has taped Priest at a show knows that the recorded version does not do them justice to actually hearing it live. But again, don't listen to the people that were AT the show, listen to the expert YouTube video reviewer telling us that Priest should pack it up.
Ever consider that people are not going to see Priest because they are listening to people that are bitching about them and saying they should quit even though they didn't go to a show?
Now which is it, JJ? First you rip on Vail because she is apparently too young to have any sort of valid judgement when she says that she really liked a show or two. Then, when some of us "old folks" who have seen Priest MANY more times than you call bullshit on your comments for a concert you haven't even seen, you claim that we are also wrong. WTF?! Do I need to have an internet radio show once a week to say what I like and what I don't? Sorry, I was only the host of a real metal radio show back in the 90s. Too old to count in your book, I guess.
HRMG said it perfectly well. I have given up entire summer vacations to following Priest and, like any band, they have good nights and bad ones. Wish I had the interview at hand when Rob says that he tries to give it his all at every show but that, sometimes, his vocal chords didn't permit. KK said the same when he commented on some of his ad-libs. Sometimes they work and sometimes the whole band rolls their eyes at him. All we (or, I, at least) have said was that HAMMOND was a killer show! Sold-out crowd to interact with a magical and spot-on performance. While I was also in Detroit, I agree that Hammond was the one that should have been recorded. It was pure magic. I cannot and DO not claim the same for even the Montreal, Detroit, Nashville shows last time around.
Keep on promoting your radio show, buddy. Listing tracks and talking smack about what you haven't experienced seems to be your forté.
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
[hellrider 31038] Tuesday, January 17, 2012 6:30:42 PM
KK IS NOT THE REASON N WAS WRITTEN J.D DIAMOND THE COMMANDER AND THAT IS A RANDOM FACT.
N CAME TO THEM
CLICK THE WIDGET
MY FELLOW DEFENDERS OF THE FAITH
KK COME BACK WITH RICHIE THREE AXE ATTACK
HEAR SEE AND FEEL THE PRIEST AND METAL TO THE MAX NOT PARTIAL
WITH KK BACK AND RICHIE KICKING IT UP A NOTCH
PUSHING THE METAL FORWARD, CONTINUING FRIOM THE MIGHTY PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINKILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLER ALBUM
KK COME BACK WITH RICHIE THREE AXE ATTACK
HEAR SEE AND FEEL THE PRIEST AND METAL TO THE MAX NOT PARTIAL WITH KK BACK AND RICHIE KICKING IT UP A NOTCH,
PUSHING THE METAL FORWARD CONTINUING FROM THE MIGHTY PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINKILLLLLLLLLLLLLER ALBUM
I just don't see many members here viewing everything Priest does through a rose tinted glass Jimmy. And thats just it Jimmy....Judas Priest doesn't "care" if only 3,000 people showed up,they "knew" that there wasn't going to be 25,000 plus in any city.
And "they guy who started the band" is the damn reason "Nostradamus" was "created"....if it were not for K.K. freaking Downing Nostradamus wouldn't of NEVER been written and instead we would of got a normal british heavy metal album,make no mistake about it....K.K. didn't leave because this band is declining ect.....have you ever thought that it was him who fucked the band up in the first place? Not many people do consider.....
I agree about the management milking shit and perhaps the band is at fault for this too I agree. This band isn't stupid,they want to tour and get cash I know that,if they didn't they would be a bunch of fuckin idiots right? But come on,do you think that the band members think they are going to strike it rich off a tour? NO.
They are playing to scrounge a few extra bucks yes but they are also enjoying themselves and are not only doing it for the cash,I'm sure if somebody did something they love doing for 40 years it would be hard to give up. And Priest never said they could pack in crowds by themselves,they know they can't,its not like they are acting like they actually "can" right?
I honestly belive that Guido,Spapad and Hot Rockin MetalGodess would not be giving this much credit to Rob's voice had he given a half assed performance on that individual show. His voice varies obviously....my girlfriend Victoria saw the reunion tour 2004 and said he struggled a little,but when she saw the Retribution tour he was spot on and shocked her,yet the DVD Rising In The East from that same tour wasn't as good.
Over all he can't be consistant live because of age ect....but who cares,anyone showing up for a metal concert and expects the 60 year old lead vocalist to be perfect are kidding themselves.
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:42:21 AM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:46:45 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 6:33:13 PM Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 6:42:30 PM
Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 6:45:58 PM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, January 17, 2012 5:02:24 PM
Now which is it, JJ? First you rip on Vail because she is apparently too young to have any sort of valid judgement when she says that she really liked a show or two. Then, when some of us "old folks" who have seen Priest MANY more times than you call bullshit on your comments for a concert you haven't even seen, you claim that we are also wrong. WTF?! Do I need to have an internet radio show once a week to say what I like and what I don't? Sorry, I was only the host of a real metal radio show back in the 90s. Too old to count in your book, I guess.
HRMG said it perfectly well. I have given up entire summer vacations to following Priest and, like any band, they have good nights and bad ones. Wish I had the interview at hand when Rob says that he tries to give it his all at every show but that, sometimes, his vocal chords didn't permit. KK said the same when he commented on some of his ad-libs. Sometimes they work and sometimes the whole band rolls their eyes at him. All we (or, I, at least) have said was that HAMMOND was a killer show! Sold-out crowd to interact with a magical and spot-on performance. While I was also in Detroit, I agree that Hammond was the one that should have been recorded. It was pure magic. I cannot and DO not claim the same for even the Montreal, Detroit, Nashville shows last time around.
Keep on promoting your radio show, buddy. Listing tracks and talking smack about what you haven't experienced seems to be your forté.
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:46:57 PM
Also.....listen to Scott at the :42 mark....listen to what he says and watch him look into the camera at the :56 mark.....
I think Scott is hinting to us that K.K. lost the passion to play "heavy metal music".
The break down in working relationship/communication with the band/management ect....K.K. sure as heck didn't have a Painkiller/Retribution idea type album up his sleave when tossing around ideas for a new album in 2010.
I think he may have changed his mind now in 2012 perhaps,who knows.
You are absolutely right HB - not everyone will be happy and people will be pissed about this thing or that. All of those things you mentioned make it a unique event. I saw them 3 times in 4 days and each show was different. The crowds reaction to the band always changes how the band plays and interacts as well. It's Rock n Roll. If you want perfection, listen to the albums at HOME! I've said before that I have never seen a perfect show by any band and I don't expect one to have a great time and think the band was amazing. I just don't understand why people keep bitching about Rob, one of the greatest singers of all time, just because he struggles with one song or another during some shows. SO WHAT? Should he pack it up as those people believe? I don't think so. Why don't people bitch about these so called vocalists that can't even carry a tune and don't even sing? When Rob is on, he is jaw dropping incredible, and that is a moment in time that you will never forget. I have had many moments like that on this tour and I feel sorry for people that can't appreciate it. I'd rather hear Rob on an offnight anyday than any one of those Cookie Monster "singers".
Head banger wrote:
they have never been perfect, not rob, not any of them. hell listen to priest live, one of the opening notes to Turbo gets messed up. so what?
name me a band that just once had a perfect concert? just one?
if most fans enjoy the show thats good. not everyone will be happy. someone will be pissed they didnt play this song, played that song, this didnt sound right, the beer was warm, the lineup in the bathroom was too long, no girls flashed the stage... too many girls flashed the stage. whatever, its a rock concert not open heart surgery, a few mistakes, detours whatever.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
I wish that we could get the soundboard recording of that show in Hammond!! THAT show should have been recorded! The next night in Detroit, he was incredible as well but missed a couple of things here and there. Cleveland was the same as the Detroit show. No singer is able to hit every single note at every single show, and I don't expect or demand that they do. Just because he is The Metal God, doesn't mean that he is always perfect and people need to stop expecting him to be. Rob gave it everything he had in every single show that I attended, they all did. But at the beginning of the tour, Rob was struggling. But we have always known that it takes his voice time to get used to touring again and he is always better at the end of a tour than at the beginning. I just wish that they had recorded one of the US shows, because from all the people I have talked to, they all said Rob was incredible and the best they have heard him since the Painkiller tour. They will probably record this in Japan and unfortunately with a couple of months off, I don't know if his voice will be as good as it was when they toured North America.
I have to keep going back to John Baxter's rant - I believe there is a lot of truth in what he said, especially the "let's sit on the sidelines with KK and watch how the Glenn and Jayne show plays out". My opinion of why KK left has changed. I saw an interview with him and he is heartbroken over leaving. This is not something he wanted to do but he couldn't stay with the way things were. It's really sad, but here we go again - MONEY and people's greed destroy another band.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I just don't see many members here viewing everything Priest does through a rose tinted glass Jimmy. And thats just it Jimmy....Judas Priest doesn't "care" if only 3,000 people showed up,they "knew" that there wasn't going to be 25,000 plus in any city.
And "they guy who started the band" is the damn reason "Nostradamus" was "created"....if it were not for K.K. freaking Downing Nostradamus wouldn't of NEVER been written and instead we would of got a normal british heavy metal album,make no mistake about it....K.K. didn't leave because this band is declining ect.....have you ever thought that it was him who fucked the band up in the first place? Not many people do consider.....
I agree about the management milking shit and perhaps the band is at fault for this too I agree. This band isn't stupid,they want to tour and get cash I know that,if they didn't they would be a bunch of fuckin idiots right? But come on,do you think that the band members think they are going to strike it rich off a tour? NO.
They are playing to scrounge a few extra bucks yes but they are also enjoying themselves and are not only doing it for the cash,I'm sure if somebody did something they love doing for 40 years it would be hard to give up. And Priest never said they could pack in crowds by themselves,they know they can't,its not like they are acting like they actually "can" right?
I honestly belive that Guido,Spapad and Hot Rockin MetalGodess would not be giving this much credit to Rob's voice had he given a half assed performance on that individual show. His voice varies obviously....my girlfriend Victoria saw the reunion tour 2004 and said he struggled a little,but when she saw the Retribution tour he was spot on and shocked her,yet the DVD Rising In The East from that same tour wasn't as good.
Over all he can't be consistant live because of age ect....but who cares,anyone showing up for a metal concert and expects the 60 year old lead vocalist to be perfect are kidding themselves.
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:42:21 AM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:46:45 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:47:30 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:33:35 PM
I read that too and yes he is heart broken about the whole thing,but I belive that he wanted to push Judas Priest into another Nostradamus direction and that is why there is a "Glenn and Jayne show". I'll bet you anything this time around he tossed another experimental idea around and Rob,Glenn and Jayne said fuck that and since he couldn't get his way he quit.
Now he is butt hurt. Thats what I belive,but I can't prove it. He was more into this Nostradamus sound than most people realize,and to make a normal metal album again would be going backwards in his eyes I belive,this is what caused all this friction to begin with.
I wish that we could get the soundboard recording of that show in Hammond!! THAT show should have been recorded! The next night in Detroit, he was incredible as well but missed a couple of things here and there. Cleveland was the same as the Detroit show. No singer is able to hit every single note at every single show, and I don't expect or demand that they do. Just because he is The Metal God, doesn't mean that he is always perfect and people need to stop expecting him to be. Rob gave it everything he had in every single show that I attended, they all did. But at the beginning of the tour, Rob was struggling. But we have always known that it takes his voice time to get used to touring again and he is always better at the end of a tour than at the beginning. I just wish that they had recorded one of the US shows, because from all the people I have talked to, they all said Rob was incredible and the best they have heard him since the Painkiller tour. They will probably record this in Japan and unfortunately with a couple of months off, I don't know if his voice will be as good as it was when they toured North America.
I have to keep going back to John Baxter's rant - I believe there is a lot of truth in what he said, especially the "let's sit on the sidelines with KK and watch how the Glenn and Jayne show plays out". My opinion of why KK left has changed. I saw an interview with him and he is heartbroken over leaving. This is not something he wanted to do but he couldn't stay with the way things were. It's really sad, but here we go again - MONEY and people's greed destroy another band.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I just don't see many members here viewing everything Priest does through a rose tinted glass Jimmy. And thats just it Jimmy....Judas Priest doesn't "care" if only 3,000 people showed up,they "knew" that there wasn't going to be 25,000 plus in any city.
And "they guy who started the band" is the damn reason "Nostradamus" was "created"....if it were not for K.K. freaking Downing Nostradamus wouldn't of NEVER been written and instead we would of got a normal british heavy metal album,make no mistake about it....K.K. didn't leave because this band is declining ect.....have you ever thought that it was him who fucked the band up in the first place? Not many people do consider.....
I agree about the management milking shit and perhaps the band is at fault for this too I agree. This band isn't stupid,they want to tour and get cash I know that,if they didn't they would be a bunch of fuckin idiots right? But come on,do you think that the band members think they are going to strike it rich off a tour? NO.
They are playing to scrounge a few extra bucks yes but they are also enjoying themselves and are not only doing it for the cash,I'm sure if somebody did something they love doing for 40 years it would be hard to give up. And Priest never said they could pack in crowds by themselves,they know they can't,its not like they are acting like they actually "can" right?
I honestly belive that Guido,Spapad and Hot Rockin MetalGodess would not be giving this much credit to Rob's voice had he given a half assed performance on that individual show. His voice varies obviously....my girlfriend Victoria saw the reunion tour 2004 and said he struggled a little,but when she saw the Retribution tour he was spot on and shocked her,yet the DVD Rising In The East from that same tour wasn't as good.
Over all he can't be consistant live because of age ect....but who cares,anyone showing up for a metal concert and expects the 60 year old lead vocalist to be perfect are kidding themselves.
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:42:21 AM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:46:45 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:34:37 PM
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:04:26 PM
You are absolutely right HB - not everyone will be happy and people will be pissed about this thing or that. All of those things you mentioned make it a unique event. I saw them 3 times in 4 days and each show was different. The crowds reaction to the band always changes how the band plays and interacts as well. It's Rock n Roll. If you want perfection, listen to the albums at HOME! I've said before that I have never seen a perfect show by any band and I don't expect one to have a great time and think the band was amazing. I just don't understand why people keep bitching about Rob, one of the greatest singers of all time, just because he struggles with one song or another during some shows. SO WHAT? Should he pack it up as those people believe? I don't think so. Why don't people bitch about these so called vocalists that can't even carry a tune and don't even sing? When Rob is on, he is jaw dropping incredible, and that is a moment in time that you will never forget. I have had many moments like that on this tour and I feel sorry for people that can't appreciate it. I'd rather hear Rob on an offnight anyday than any one of those Cookie Monster "singers".
they have never been perfect, not rob, not any of them. hell listen to priest live, one of the opening notes to Turbo gets messed up. so what?
name me a band that just once had a perfect concert? just one?
if most fans enjoy the show thats good. not everyone will be happy. someone will be pissed they didnt play this song, played that song, this didnt sound right, the beer was warm, the lineup in the bathroom was too long, no girls flashed the stage... too many girls flashed the stage. whatever, its a rock concert not open heart surgery, a few mistakes, detours whatever.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
I wish that we could get the soundboard recording of that show in Hammond!! THAT show should have been recorded! The next night in Detroit, he was incredible as well but missed a couple of things here and there. Cleveland was the same as the Detroit show. No singer is able to hit every single note at every single show, and I don't expect or demand that they do. Just because he is The Metal God, doesn't mean that he is always perfect and people need to stop expecting him to be. Rob gave it everything he had in every single show that I attended, they all did. But at the beginning of the tour, Rob was struggling. But we have always known that it takes his voice time to get used to touring again and he is always better at the end of a tour than at the beginning. I just wish that they had recorded one of the US shows, because from all the people I have talked to, they all said Rob was incredible and the best they have heard him since the Painkiller tour. They will probably record this in Japan and unfortunately with a couple of months off, I don't know if his voice will be as good as it was when they toured North America.
I have to keep going back to John Baxter's rant - I believe there is a lot of truth in what he said, especially the "let's sit on the sidelines with KK and watch how the Glenn and Jayne show plays out". My opinion of why KK left has changed. I saw an interview with him and he is heartbroken over leaving. This is not something he wanted to do but he couldn't stay with the way things were. It's really sad, but here we go again - MONEY and people's greed destroy another band.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I just don't see many members here viewing everything Priest does through a rose tinted glass Jimmy. And thats just it Jimmy....Judas Priest doesn't "care" if only 3,000 people showed up,they "knew" that there wasn't going to be 25,000 plus in any city.
And "they guy who started the band" is the damn reason "Nostradamus" was "created"....if it were not for K.K. freaking Downing Nostradamus wouldn't of NEVER been written and instead we would of got a normal british heavy metal album,make no mistake about it....K.K. didn't leave because this band is declining ect.....have you ever thought that it was him who fucked the band up in the first place? Not many people do consider.....
I agree about the management milking shit and perhaps the band is at fault for this too I agree. This band isn't stupid,they want to tour and get cash I know that,if they didn't they would be a bunch of fuckin idiots right? But come on,do you think that the band members think they are going to strike it rich off a tour? NO.
They are playing to scrounge a few extra bucks yes but they are also enjoying themselves and are not only doing it for the cash,I'm sure if somebody did something they love doing for 40 years it would be hard to give up. And Priest never said they could pack in crowds by themselves,they know they can't,its not like they are acting like they actually "can" right?
I honestly belive that Guido,Spapad and Hot Rockin MetalGodess would not be giving this much credit to Rob's voice had he given a half assed performance on that individual show. His voice varies obviously....my girlfriend Victoria saw the reunion tour 2004 and said he struggled a little,but when she saw the Retribution tour he was spot on and shocked her,yet the DVD Rising In The East from that same tour wasn't as good.
Over all he can't be consistant live because of age ect....but who cares,anyone showing up for a metal concert and expects the 60 year old lead vocalist to be perfect are kidding themselves.
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:42:21 AM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:46:45 AM
[Judas Priest / One For The Road] Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:22:19 AM
Just a side note to add, if it wasn't for Priest there would be no Heavy Metal. Thank you and goodnight!!
[Head banger] Tuesday, January 17, 2012 8:05:29 AM
they have never been perfect, not rob, not any of them. hell listen to priest live, one of the opening notes to Turbo gets messed up. so what?
name me a band that just once had a perfect concert? just one?
if most fans enjoy the show thats good. not everyone will be happy. someone will be pissed they didnt play this song, played that song, this didnt sound right, the beer was warm, the lineup in the bathroom was too long, no girls flashed the stage... too many girls flashed the stage. whatever, its a rock concert not open heart surgery, a few mistakes, detours whatever. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Tuesday, January 17, 2012 7:49:50 AM)
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
I wish that we could get the soundboard recording of that show in Hammond!! THAT show should have been recorded! The next night in Detroit, he was incredible as well but missed a couple of things here and there. Cleveland was the same as the Detroit show. No singer is able to hit every single note at every single show, and I don't expect or demand that they do. Just because he is The Metal God, doesn't mean that he is always perfect and people need to stop expecting him to be. Rob gave it everything he had in every single show that I attended, they all did. But at the beginning of the tour, Rob was struggling. But we have always known that it takes his voice time to get used to touring again and he is always better at the end of a tour than at the beginning. I just wish that they had recorded one of the US shows, because from all the people I have talked to, they all said Rob was incredible and the best they have heard him since the Painkiller tour. They will probably record this in Japan and unfortunately with a couple of months off, I don't know if his voice will be as good as it was when they toured North America.
I have to keep going back to John Baxter's rant - I believe there is a lot of truth in what he said, especially the "let's sit on the sidelines with KK and watch how the Glenn and Jayne show plays out". My opinion of why KK left has changed. I saw an interview with him and he is heartbroken over leaving. This is not something he wanted to do but he couldn't stay with the way things were. It's really sad, but here we go again - MONEY and people's greed destroy another band.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I just don't see many members here viewing everything Priest does through a rose tinted glass Jimmy. And thats just it Jimmy....Judas Priest doesn't "care" if only 3,000 people showed up,they "knew" that there wasn't going to be 25,000 plus in any city.
And "they guy who started the band" is the damn reason "Nostradamus" was "created"....if it were not for K.K. freaking Downing Nostradamus wouldn't of NEVER been written and instead we would of got a normal british heavy metal album,make no mistake about it....K.K. didn't leave because this band is declining ect.....have you ever thought that it was him who fucked the band up in the first place? Not many people do consider.....
I agree about the management milking shit and perhaps the band is at fault for this too I agree. This band isn't stupid,they want to tour and get cash I know that,if they didn't they would be a bunch of fuckin idiots right? But come on,do you think that the band members think they are going to strike it rich off a tour? NO.
They are playing to scrounge a few extra bucks yes but they are also enjoying themselves and are not only doing it for the cash,I'm sure if somebody did something they love doing for 40 years it would be hard to give up. And Priest never said they could pack in crowds by themselves,they know they can't,its not like they are acting like they actually "can" right?
I honestly belive that Guido,Spapad and Hot Rockin MetalGodess would not be giving this much credit to Rob's voice had he given a half assed performance on that individual show. His voice varies obviously....my girlfriend Victoria saw the reunion tour 2004 and said he struggled a little,but when she saw the Retribution tour he was spot on and shocked her,yet the DVD Rising In The East from that same tour wasn't as good.
Over all he can't be consistant live because of age ect....but who cares,anyone showing up for a metal concert and expects the 60 year old lead vocalist to be perfect are kidding themselves.
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:42:21 AM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:46:45 AM
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Tuesday, January 17, 2012 7:49:50 AM
I wish that we could get the soundboard recording of that show in Hammond!! THAT show should have been recorded! The next night in Detroit, he was incredible as well but missed a couple of things here and there. Cleveland was the same as the Detroit show. No singer is able to hit every single note at every single show, and I don't expect or demand that they do. Just because he is The Metal God, doesn't mean that he is always perfect and people need to stop expecting him to be. Rob gave it everything he had in every single show that I attended, they all did. But at the beginning of the tour, Rob was struggling. But we have always known that it takes his voice time to get used to touring again and he is always better at the end of a tour than at the beginning. I just wish that they had recorded one of the US shows, because from all the people I have talked to, they all said Rob was incredible and the best they have heard him since the Painkiller tour. They will probably record this in Japan and unfortunately with a couple of months off, I don't know if his voice will be as good as it was when they toured North America.
I have to keep going back to John Baxter's rant - I believe there is a lot of truth in what he said, especially the "let's sit on the sidelines with KK and watch how the Glenn and Jayne show plays out". My opinion of why KK left has changed. I saw an interview with him and he is heartbroken over leaving. This is not something he wanted to do but he couldn't stay with the way things were. It's really sad, but here we go again - MONEY and people's greed destroy another band.
I just don't see many members here viewing everything Priest does through a rose tinted glass Jimmy. And thats just it Jimmy....Judas Priest doesn't "care" if only 3,000 people showed up,they "knew" that there wasn't going to be 25,000 plus in any city.
And "they guy who started the band" is the damn reason "Nostradamus" was "created"....if it were not for K.K. freaking Downing Nostradamus wouldn't of NEVER been written and instead we would of got a normal british heavy metal album,make no mistake about it....K.K. didn't leave because this band is declining ect.....have you ever thought that it was him who fucked the band up in the first place? Not many people do consider.....
I agree about the management milking shit and perhaps the band is at fault for this too I agree. This band isn't stupid,they want to tour and get cash I know that,if they didn't they would be a bunch of fuckin idiots right? But come on,do you think that the band members think they are going to strike it rich off a tour? NO.
They are playing to scrounge a few extra bucks yes but they are also enjoying themselves and are not only doing it for the cash,I'm sure if somebody did something they love doing for 40 years it would be hard to give up. And Priest never said they could pack in crowds by themselves,they know they can't,its not like they are acting like they actually "can" right?
I honestly belive that Guido,Spapad and Hot Rockin MetalGodess would not be giving this much credit to Rob's voice had he given a half assed performance on that individual show. His voice varies obviously....my girlfriend Victoria saw the reunion tour 2004 and said he struggled a little,but when she saw the Retribution tour he was spot on and shocked her,yet the DVD Rising In The East from that same tour wasn't as good.
Over all he can't be consistant live because of age ect....but who cares,anyone showing up for a metal concert and expects the 60 year old lead vocalist to be perfect are kidding themselves.
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:42:21 AM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:46:45 AM
[Head banger] Tuesday, January 17, 2012 7:41:56 AM
if they are not getting rich off this tour, and I am sure they are not, then what about thin lizzy. playing unidentifiable sounds to about 100 people in a arena with 12000 concert seats available? (priest had 9000 in those seats)
if they leave this tour with enough money left for the band to buy a pizza to share I would be amazed. if they gain one new fan for the whole tour I will be doubly amazed...
not that they were ever a top act but by god they are not now. there are dozens of local bands that could have done as well, yes even in a country town where the average music fan thinks nickelback is heavy metal.....
I just don't see many members here viewing everything Priest does through a rose tinted glass Jimmy. And thats just it Jimmy....Judas Priest doesn't "care" if only 3,000 people showed up,they "knew" that there wasn't going to be 25,000 plus in any city.
And "they guy who started the band" is the damn reason "Nostradamus" was "created"....if it were not for K.K. freaking Downing Nostradamus wouldn't of NEVER been written and instead we would of got a normal british heavy metal album,make no mistake about it....K.K. didn't leave because this band is declining ect.....have you ever thought that it was him who fucked the band up in the first place? Not many people do consider.....
I agree about the management milking shit and perhaps the band is at fault for this too I agree. This band isn't stupid,they want to tour and get cash I know that,if they didn't they would be a bunch of fuckin idiots right? But come on,do you think that the band members think they are going to strike it rich off a tour? NO.
They are playing to scrounge a few extra bucks yes but they are also enjoying themselves and are not only doing it for the cash,I'm sure if somebody did something they love doing for 40 years it would be hard to give up. And Priest never said they could pack in crowds by themselves,they know they can't,its not like they are acting like they actually "can" right?
I honestly belive that Guido,Spapad and Hot Rockin MetalGodess would not be giving this much credit to Rob's voice had he given a half assed performance on that individual show. His voice varies obviously....my girlfriend Victoria saw the reunion tour 2004 and said he struggled a little,but when she saw the Retribution tour he was spot on and shocked her,yet the DVD Rising In The East from that same tour wasn't as good.
Over all he can't be consistant live because of age ect....but who cares,anyone showing up for a metal concert and expects the 60 year old lead vocalist to be perfect are kidding themselves.
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:42:21 AM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:46:45 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:32:53 AM
I just don't see many members here viewing everything Priest does through a rose tinted glass Jimmy. And thats just it Jimmy....Judas Priest doesn't "care" if only 3,000 people showed up,they "knew" that there wasn't going to be 25,000 plus in any city.
And "they guy who started the band" is the damn reason "Nostradamus" was "created"....if it were not for K.K. freaking Downing Nostradamus wouldn't of NEVER been written and instead we would of got a normal british heavy metal album,make no mistake about it....K.K. didn't leave because this band is declining ect.....have you ever thought that it was him who fucked the band up in the first place? Not many people do consider.....
I agree about the management milking shit and perhaps the band is at fault for this too I agree. This band isn't stupid,they want to tour and get cash I know that,if they didn't they would be a bunch of fuckin idiots right? But come on,do you think that the band members think they are going to strike it rich off a tour? NO.
They are playing to scrounge a few extra bucks yes but they are also enjoying themselves and are not only doing it for the cash,I'm sure if somebody did something they love doing for 40 years it would be hard to give up. And Priest never said they could pack in crowds by themselves,they know they can't,its not like they are acting like they actually "can" right?
I honestly belive that Guido,Spapad and Hot Rockin MetalGodess would not be giving this much credit to Rob's voice had he given a half assed performance on that individual show. His voice varies obviously....my girlfriend Victoria saw the reunion tour 2004 and said he struggled a little,but when she saw the Retribution tour he was spot on and shocked her,yet the DVD Rising In The East from that same tour wasn't as good.
Over all he can't be consistant live because of age ect....but who cares,anyone showing up for a metal concert and expects the 60 year old lead vocalist to be perfect are kidding themselves.
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
Edited at: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:46:45 AM
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:42:21 AM
I should be here as much as anyone else. I just don't view everything they do through rose tinted glasses like some here do. When I see my once favourite band in decline to such an extent that the guy who started the band wants out I'm going to speak up. I don't need to list again the the amount of rip offs this band has perpetrated and their lazy approach to producing new, quality material. If metal hadn't made a resurgence in the late 90s there's no way they would have "buried the hatchet to get out there and play for the fans". Since 04 it's been "look, we don't have to like each other but if we just keep getting out there and doing shows we can milk this". The real reason they are "only going to do the odd festival gig" from now on is because there's 20 other bands there to drag the audience in. They can't do it on their own. If you were one of the biggest names in metal and you're playing a city the size of Cleveland and 3000 turn up it's time to pack it in. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:04:03 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Monday, January 16, 2012 3:11:46 PM
You also left me out of your post as well JJ. I've been a fan since '82 and have gone to every tour since '86. Budred was completely wrong in his post about Rob's vocals in Cleveland. And you have yet to actually see Priest live, am I right? So exactly how can you say anything about Rob's voice on this tour or any other? YouTube videos have never done Rob's voice justice since Rob's voice blows out the mics on every recording device. Jaw dropping, fucking unbelievable vocals in Hammond and that is a FACT!!! If you had been there, you would agree.
I'm really sick and tired of people bitching about Rob's voice. He was fucking AMAZING in all 3 shows that we saw - Hammond, Detroit and Cleveland! As far as them having nothing left, well, I can tell you that Rob has plently of fuel left in the tank!
But you have nothing to compare their live performance to Vail. The only time you've seen them has been in the last few years. Ask guys like JD and Budred who saw them in the 80s when they were at their peak and they'll tell you that this band is in decline and anyone who tells you Halfords voice is as good as ever is just lying. His high vocals are completely shot to hell. He doesn't scream any more, he screeches. And if you call Priests performance "energetic" then I'd hate to see a band who you thought were lethargic. Halford can hardly walk now, hobbling around, hunched over the mike trying to read the teleprompter and screeching two cats stapled together. They've got nothing left. They were once my favourite band but over the last few years I just can't be bothered.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Hey, it could be worse. The band could've made an album with Lou Reed.
I do agree with JD in that JP is misusing their time somewhat, as they could've done a new album first and then do their final tour. However, I don't agree with JJ nor Budred about the live performances. Judas Priest have been nothing short of incredible as far as live acts go. Nobody that I've seen live so far has delivered a performance as energetic, aesthetically pleasing, professional, and complex as JP has. In fact, I wish they could continue touring even if Rob ends up in a wheelchair. At least it would be decorated with spikes and skulls and shoot flames from the back. Plus they have Richie now. New blood=new ideas=higher possibility of a kickass album.
[Head banger] Monday, January 16, 2012 7:57:03 AM
I dont get it. if you dont think they have it why hope for an album? would the album be all studio effects and editing to bury their lack of ability? of some simple shit that thousands could do?
fact is the core 3 are pushing retirement age. 30-40 years ago they could do more. now they know more.
I thought this show was great. last show I saw with them they opened for ozzy at monsters of rock, which was just an ok set.
No, I was saying maybe that explains why there were (only) 3000 people at the show in Cleveland.
Let me stress that my bad review was more from not getting what I was used to from the Priest than from
a terrible performance. They weren't that bad they've just sounded so much better in the past. Just two
years ago on British Steel they sounded so powerful and so tight and they impressed me with the fact that they
could still get it done. This last tour didn't do that for me. Was it Rob? Richie?, I don't know. I did say that it
would probably be my last time regardless of future touring or not but I hope they hit Pittsburgh on a new leg
of this tour just to see if I feel the same way or not. I have changed my mind from time to time. I do stick by my
least favorite show comments and I still think they should retire but I'm also anxious to hear their new CD.
Maybe it will rock. I only mention the retirement thing because I would like to see them go out with a little dignity.
If they haven't already, I'm afraid they will soon become a joke of themselves.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
[Budred] Monday, January 16, 2012 4:17:45 AM
No, I was saying maybe that explains why there were (only) 3000 people at the show in Cleveland.
Let me stress that my bad review was more from not getting what I was used to from the Priest than from
a terrible performance. They weren't that bad they've just sounded so much better in the past. Just two
years ago on British Steel they sounded so powerful and so tight and they impressed me with the fact that they
could still get it done. This last tour didn't do that for me. Was it Rob? Richie?, I don't know. I did say that it
would probably be my last time regardless of future touring or not but I hope they hit Pittsburgh on a new leg
of this tour just to see if I feel the same way or not. I have changed my mind from time to time. I do stick by my
least favorite show comments and I still think they should retire but I'm also anxious to hear their new CD.
Maybe it will rock. I only mention the retirement thing because I would like to see them go out with a little dignity.
If they haven't already, I'm afraid they will soon become a joke of themselves. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:04:03 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
(Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM)
Budred wrote:
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:04:03 PM
You think that there are 25,000 cult followers in Cleveland? You think this band are as popular as Iron Maiden in 2012? Obviously NO. Priest are lucky to have even 3,000 in Cleveland. Jimmy does speak a lot of truths but he is not always right.
If the band suck this bad he shouldn't even be here. I've even said when Rob sings Painkiller it sounds like an animal being tortured but I think its funny and am not bothered by it,it seems other people fucking HATE the band so bad over it and all because of a stupid live perfomance. Get over it people!
Maybe Priest should set up a refund for fans that were disappointed as you were from your first post responding to the Cleveland show Budred,that way you could get back your hard earned money since you didn't think it was worth it and since its the last time you will ever see Priest live again regardless if they came again or not.
If my stomach wasn't all fucked up in October I would of went to the show and enjoyed every bit of it because of the "spirit" of Judas Priest as a "cult follower". My rants are because they are not putting out enough studio albums,I don't want them to quit,I want them to keep going and I don't care if thier performance struggles,its not like they totally "suck" live,just a few flaws so what.
I'm glad you enjoyed 70 % of these metal bands you saw live over the years your right its a matter of opinion,you think 70% of these metal bands are worthy,I do not. But that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:34:17 PM
[spapad] Sunday, January 15, 2012 11:03:12 AM
I'll be truly stunned if they don't at least make it to Australia. Fingers crossed.
Tell you what though, I'll be there no matter what if they come
spapad wrote:
Well Becks if JJ misses it, then he does. Sorry to hear.
I really don't care who goes and who does not. I know what I saw, and enjoyed it to the max.
As far as everyone talking about the tour either for or against................just to be expected. It is the band's fan page afterall. No opinion will ever be right will all concerned.
Becks wrote:
If they do make it down this way JJ won't be there.
I find all this arguing over how on or off the band is tiresome. It happens every tour; I can't really comment because I've never seen them live, but I hope I get to - as I seem to say constantly, lol! From the videos I have seen it looked like the shows in general were great and I have enjoyed what I have seen.
spapad wrote:
Wow, that's a little harsh Jimmy. I was at the Hammond show and I've been going to shows since SFV tour. Rob was better at the Hammond show than I had ever heard him live. His stage presence was just as good as the SFV and Deffenders years. Rob's never been a big mover and shaker. That show at Hammond was fabulous. The show the next night in Detroit did not disapoint either. I think your assessment of guido enjoying rob taking a shit is just plain insulting, and probably meant to be that way. Your usual smart ass approach, but the proof was right there for all to hear that night and I hope they make it down your way so you may have to eat those words. I'm sure you'd be glad to eat those words if you could get that kind of show. (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:03:19 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
That's because if Halford recorded himself taking a shit you'd say it sounded fantastic.
guidogodoy wrote:
You left me out of that statement, JJ. I have been around and watching Priest / Halford since JD and Bud and I couldn't disagree more. The Priest concert in Hammond, IL (Chicago) was one of the most earth-shaking performances of any band I have seen. Halford claims to have given up smoking and I say that he has never been stronger. Only thing close was Painkiller Tour, IMO. Adding Richie to the mix, while not KK, was a genuine treat.
"Energetic" is a subjective term but, damn, were they on top of their game in Hammond. "Halford can hardly walk" is WAY off the mark. IMHO, at least. I just hope some bootleg will surface from that show to help prove the point.
jimmyjames wrote:
But you have nothing to compare their live performance to Vail. The only time you've seen them has been in the last few years. Ask guys like JD and Budred who saw them in the 80s when they were at their peak and they'll tell you that this band is in decline and anyone who tells you Halfords voice is as good as ever is just lying. His high vocals are completely shot to hell. He doesn't scream any more, he screeches. And if you call Priests performance "energetic" then I'd hate to see a band who you thought were lethargic. Halford can hardly walk now, hobbling around, hunched over the mike trying to read the teleprompter and screeching two cats stapled together. They've got nothing left. They were once my favourite band but over the last few years I just can't be bothered.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Hey, it could be worse. The band could've made an album with Lou Reed.
I do agree with JD in that JP is misusing their time somewhat, as they could've done a new album first and then do their final tour. However, I don't agree with JJ nor Budred about the live performances. Judas Priest have been nothing short of incredible as far as live acts go. Nobody that I've seen live so far has delivered a performance as energetic, aesthetically pleasing, professional, and complex as JP has. In fact, I wish they could continue touring even if Rob ends up in a wheelchair. At least it would be decorated with spikes and skulls and shoot flames from the back. Plus they have Richie now. New blood=new ideas=higher possibility of a kickass album.
Edited at: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:57:04 PM
[Budred] Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:25:08 AM
Live show for cult followers, that may explain why only 3000 out of 25,000 showed up in Cleveland.
I wasn't expecting Rob to sound like he did in 1980 (and he didn't disappoint) and I do judge bands on
their live performances. To me when they suck live they usually suck. As for no one worth seeing
that's just a matter of opinion. There may not be many classic British metal bands but there are plenty
of metal bands out there worth checking out. I've been lucky enough to see over 100 bands the last two
years and I've enjoyed at least 70 percent of them. Anyway, to each his own, and lastly, Jimmy may be a
smartass but he speaks alot of truths. Most just don't want to face them. Peace all! Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:27:57 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, January 15, 2012 3:41:42 AM
Who gives a shit if Rob struggles on vocals anyways for fucks sake its a live show for cult followers,its not like "Judas Priest are #1 in the spotlight of the music world",people who see the new tour and are disappointed are expecting Halford to sound like he did in 1980 it seems.
The tour was supposed to be a tribute for the "fans" and really not to try and impress those who expect a 100% flawless vocals performance from Halford,the guy is 60 years old for christ sake anyone who expects 100% perfection live shouldn't of even bought a ticket.
Besides...I'd rather see a struggling Halford live than most of these shit bands people see these days anyways,these whining fans make it seem like there are tons of killer british heavy metal bands out there to see live,psssfft the scene sucks with only a handfull of worth heavy metal bands anyways.
And again,who gives a fuck about live performances,the studio album vocals is what matters and Rob sure as shit sounds kick ass on studio and will again on this new studio album.
Edited at: Sunday, January 15, 2012 3:44:24 AM
[guidogodoy] Saturday, January 14, 2012 11:28:26 PM
Glad some of you can read. Didn't say anything about "Fight," "Halford" concerts, "Reunion" Ozzfest, Metal Masters.... I said that the band was fucking awesome in Hammond.
[Becks] Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:50:46 PM
Tell you what though, I'll be there no matter what if they come
Well Becks if JJ misses it, then he does. Sorry to hear.
I really don't care who goes and who does not. I know what I saw, and enjoyed it to the max.
As far as everyone talking about the tour either for or against................just to be expected. It is the band's fan page afterall. No opinion will ever be right will all concerned.
Becks wrote:
If they do make it down this way JJ won't be there.
I find all this arguing over how on or off the band is tiresome. It happens every tour; I can't really comment because I've never seen them live, but I hope I get to - as I seem to say constantly, lol! From the videos I have seen it looked like the shows in general were great and I have enjoyed what I have seen.
spapad wrote:
Wow, that's a little harsh Jimmy. I was at the Hammond show and I've been going to shows since SFV tour. Rob was better at the Hammond show than I had ever heard him live. His stage presence was just as good as the SFV and Deffenders years. Rob's never been a big mover and shaker. That show at Hammond was fabulous. The show the next night in Detroit did not disapoint either. I think your assessment of guido enjoying rob taking a shit is just plain insulting, and probably meant to be that way. Your usual smart ass approach, but the proof was right there for all to hear that night and I hope they make it down your way so you may have to eat those words. I'm sure you'd be glad to eat those words if you could get that kind of show. (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:03:19 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
That's because if Halford recorded himself taking a shit you'd say it sounded fantastic.
guidogodoy wrote:
You left me out of that statement, JJ. I have been around and watching Priest / Halford since JD and Bud and I couldn't disagree more. The Priest concert in Hammond, IL (Chicago) was one of the most earth-shaking performances of any band I have seen. Halford claims to have given up smoking and I say that he has never been stronger. Only thing close was Painkiller Tour, IMO. Adding Richie to the mix, while not KK, was a genuine treat.
"Energetic" is a subjective term but, damn, were they on top of their game in Hammond. "Halford can hardly walk" is WAY off the mark. IMHO, at least. I just hope some bootleg will surface from that show to help prove the point.
jimmyjames wrote:
But you have nothing to compare their live performance to Vail. The only time you've seen them has been in the last few years. Ask guys like JD and Budred who saw them in the 80s when they were at their peak and they'll tell you that this band is in decline and anyone who tells you Halfords voice is as good as ever is just lying. His high vocals are completely shot to hell. He doesn't scream any more, he screeches. And if you call Priests performance "energetic" then I'd hate to see a band who you thought were lethargic. Halford can hardly walk now, hobbling around, hunched over the mike trying to read the teleprompter and screeching two cats stapled together. They've got nothing left. They were once my favourite band but over the last few years I just can't be bothered.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Hey, it could be worse. The band could've made an album with Lou Reed.
I do agree with JD in that JP is misusing their time somewhat, as they could've done a new album first and then do their final tour. However, I don't agree with JJ nor Budred about the live performances. Judas Priest have been nothing short of incredible as far as live acts go. Nobody that I've seen live so far has delivered a performance as energetic, aesthetically pleasing, professional, and complex as JP has. In fact, I wish they could continue touring even if Rob ends up in a wheelchair. At least it would be decorated with spikes and skulls and shoot flames from the back. Plus they have Richie now. New blood=new ideas=higher possibility of a kickass album.
Edited at: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:57:04 PM
[spapad] Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:28:41 PM
Well Becks if JJ misses it, then he does. Sorry to hear.
I really don't care who goes and who does not. I know what I saw, and enjoyed it to the max.
As far as everyone talking about the tour either for or against................just to be expected. It is the band's fan page afterall. No opinion will ever be right will all concerned.
If they do make it down this way JJ won't be there.
I find all this arguing over how on or off the band is tiresome. It happens every tour; I can't really comment because I've never seen them live, but I hope I get to - as I seem to say constantly, lol! From the videos I have seen it looked like the shows in general were great and I have enjoyed what I have seen.
spapad wrote:
Wow, that's a little harsh Jimmy. I was at the Hammond show and I've been going to shows since SFV tour. Rob was better at the Hammond show than I had ever heard him live. His stage presence was just as good as the SFV and Deffenders years. Rob's never been a big mover and shaker. That show at Hammond was fabulous. The show the next night in Detroit did not disapoint either. I think your assessment of guido enjoying rob taking a shit is just plain insulting, and probably meant to be that way. Your usual smart ass approach, but the proof was right there for all to hear that night and I hope they make it down your way so you may have to eat those words. I'm sure you'd be glad to eat those words if you could get that kind of show. (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:03:19 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
That's because if Halford recorded himself taking a shit you'd say it sounded fantastic.
guidogodoy wrote:
You left me out of that statement, JJ. I have been around and watching Priest / Halford since JD and Bud and I couldn't disagree more. The Priest concert in Hammond, IL (Chicago) was one of the most earth-shaking performances of any band I have seen. Halford claims to have given up smoking and I say that he has never been stronger. Only thing close was Painkiller Tour, IMO. Adding Richie to the mix, while not KK, was a genuine treat.
"Energetic" is a subjective term but, damn, were they on top of their game in Hammond. "Halford can hardly walk" is WAY off the mark. IMHO, at least. I just hope some bootleg will surface from that show to help prove the point.
jimmyjames wrote:
But you have nothing to compare their live performance to Vail. The only time you've seen them has been in the last few years. Ask guys like JD and Budred who saw them in the 80s when they were at their peak and they'll tell you that this band is in decline and anyone who tells you Halfords voice is as good as ever is just lying. His high vocals are completely shot to hell. He doesn't scream any more, he screeches. And if you call Priests performance "energetic" then I'd hate to see a band who you thought were lethargic. Halford can hardly walk now, hobbling around, hunched over the mike trying to read the teleprompter and screeching two cats stapled together. They've got nothing left. They were once my favourite band but over the last few years I just can't be bothered.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Hey, it could be worse. The band could've made an album with Lou Reed.
I do agree with JD in that JP is misusing their time somewhat, as they could've done a new album first and then do their final tour. However, I don't agree with JJ nor Budred about the live performances. Judas Priest have been nothing short of incredible as far as live acts go. Nobody that I've seen live so far has delivered a performance as energetic, aesthetically pleasing, professional, and complex as JP has. In fact, I wish they could continue touring even if Rob ends up in a wheelchair. At least it would be decorated with spikes and skulls and shoot flames from the back. Plus they have Richie now. New blood=new ideas=higher possibility of a kickass album.
Edited at: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:57:04 PM
[Becks] Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:20:21 PM
If they do make it down this way JJ won't be there.
I find all this arguing over how on or off the band is tiresome. It happens every tour; I can't really comment because I've never seen them live, but I hope I get to - as I seem to say constantly, lol! From the videos I have seen it looked like the shows in general were great and I have enjoyed what I have seen.
Wow, that's a little harsh Jimmy. I was at the Hammond show and I've been going to shows since SFV tour. Rob was better at the Hammond show than I had ever heard him live. His stage presence was just as good as the SFV and Deffenders years. Rob's never been a big mover and shaker. That show at Hammond was fabulous. The show the next night in Detroit did not disapoint either. I think your assessment of guido enjoying rob taking a shit is just plain insulting, and probably meant to be that way. Your usual smart ass approach, but the proof was right there for all to hear that night and I hope they make it down your way so you may have to eat those words. I'm sure you'd be glad to eat those words if you could get that kind of show. (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:03:19 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
That's because if Halford recorded himself taking a shit you'd say it sounded fantastic.
guidogodoy wrote:
You left me out of that statement, JJ. I have been around and watching Priest / Halford since JD and Bud and I couldn't disagree more. The Priest concert in Hammond, IL (Chicago) was one of the most earth-shaking performances of any band I have seen. Halford claims to have given up smoking and I say that he has never been stronger. Only thing close was Painkiller Tour, IMO. Adding Richie to the mix, while not KK, was a genuine treat.
"Energetic" is a subjective term but, damn, were they on top of their game in Hammond. "Halford can hardly walk" is WAY off the mark. IMHO, at least. I just hope some bootleg will surface from that show to help prove the point.
jimmyjames wrote:
But you have nothing to compare their live performance to Vail. The only time you've seen them has been in the last few years. Ask guys like JD and Budred who saw them in the 80s when they were at their peak and they'll tell you that this band is in decline and anyone who tells you Halfords voice is as good as ever is just lying. His high vocals are completely shot to hell. He doesn't scream any more, he screeches. And if you call Priests performance "energetic" then I'd hate to see a band who you thought were lethargic. Halford can hardly walk now, hobbling around, hunched over the mike trying to read the teleprompter and screeching two cats stapled together. They've got nothing left. They were once my favourite band but over the last few years I just can't be bothered.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Hey, it could be worse. The band could've made an album with Lou Reed.
I do agree with JD in that JP is misusing their time somewhat, as they could've done a new album first and then do their final tour. However, I don't agree with JJ nor Budred about the live performances. Judas Priest have been nothing short of incredible as far as live acts go. Nobody that I've seen live so far has delivered a performance as energetic, aesthetically pleasing, professional, and complex as JP has. In fact, I wish they could continue touring even if Rob ends up in a wheelchair. At least it would be decorated with spikes and skulls and shoot flames from the back. Plus they have Richie now. New blood=new ideas=higher possibility of a kickass album.
Edited at: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:57:04 PM
[Brian_Evans] Saturday, January 14, 2012 4:44:46 PM
I agree, Halford doesn't have the high range anymore. Anyone who says he does didn't see him in the early days to be able to make a good comparison. He still does a pretty good job though with his mid and low range voice. I would say he was at his best live in the late 70's.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:03:19 PM) Edited at: Saturday, January 14, 2012 5:15:39 PM
[spapad] Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:54:52 PM
Wow, that's a little harsh Jimmy. I was at the Hammond show and I've been going to shows since SFV tour. Rob was better at the Hammond show than I had ever heard him live. His stage presence was just as good as the SFV and Deffenders years. Rob's never been a big mover and shaker. That show at Hammond was fabulous. The show the next night in Detroit did not disapoint either. I think your assessment of guido enjoying rob taking a shit is just plain insulting, and probably meant to be that way. Your usual smart ass approach, but the proof was right there for all to hear that night and I hope they make it down your way so you may have to eat those words. I'm sure you'd be glad to eat those words if you could get that kind of show. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:03:19 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
That's because if Halford recorded himself taking a shit you'd say it sounded fantastic.
guidogodoy wrote:
You left me out of that statement, JJ. I have been around and watching Priest / Halford since JD and Bud and I couldn't disagree more. The Priest concert in Hammond, IL (Chicago) was one of the most earth-shaking performances of any band I have seen. Halford claims to have given up smoking and I say that he has never been stronger. Only thing close was Painkiller Tour, IMO. Adding Richie to the mix, while not KK, was a genuine treat.
"Energetic" is a subjective term but, damn, were they on top of their game in Hammond. "Halford can hardly walk" is WAY off the mark. IMHO, at least. I just hope some bootleg will surface from that show to help prove the point.
jimmyjames wrote:
But you have nothing to compare their live performance to Vail. The only time you've seen them has been in the last few years. Ask guys like JD and Budred who saw them in the 80s when they were at their peak and they'll tell you that this band is in decline and anyone who tells you Halfords voice is as good as ever is just lying. His high vocals are completely shot to hell. He doesn't scream any more, he screeches. And if you call Priests performance "energetic" then I'd hate to see a band who you thought were lethargic. Halford can hardly walk now, hobbling around, hunched over the mike trying to read the teleprompter and screeching two cats stapled together. They've got nothing left. They were once my favourite band but over the last few years I just can't be bothered.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Hey, it could be worse. The band could've made an album with Lou Reed.
I do agree with JD in that JP is misusing their time somewhat, as they could've done a new album first and then do their final tour. However, I don't agree with JJ nor Budred about the live performances. Judas Priest have been nothing short of incredible as far as live acts go. Nobody that I've seen live so far has delivered a performance as energetic, aesthetically pleasing, professional, and complex as JP has. In fact, I wish they could continue touring even if Rob ends up in a wheelchair. At least it would be decorated with spikes and skulls and shoot flames from the back. Plus they have Richie now. New blood=new ideas=higher possibility of a kickass album.
Edited at: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:57:04 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:18:09 PM
I disagree Jimmy. I've been talking to Guido since January 1st 2005 and these last 7 years he hasn't been a "fanboy",not even close...there are many things about Priest Guido has critisized. I think your thinking everyone is saying Halford is ontop his game every night this tour,thats not true but I've heard from sources outside this forum that on a few shows he is better than he has been in years. Perhaps there will be a bootleg of one of these shows.
That's because if Halford recorded himself taking a shit you'd say it sounded fantastic.
guidogodoy wrote:
You left me out of that statement, JJ. I have been around and watching Priest / Halford since JD and Bud and I couldn't disagree more. The Priest concert in Hammond, IL (Chicago) was one of the most earth-shaking performances of any band I have seen. Halford claims to have given up smoking and I say that he has never been stronger. Only thing close was Painkiller Tour, IMO. Adding Richie to the mix, while not KK, was a genuine treat.
"Energetic" is a subjective term but, damn, were they on top of their game in Hammond. "Halford can hardly walk" is WAY off the mark. IMHO, at least. I just hope some bootleg will surface from that show to help prove the point.
jimmyjames wrote:
But you have nothing to compare their live performance to Vail. The only time you've seen them has been in the last few years. Ask guys like JD and Budred who saw them in the 80s when they were at their peak and they'll tell you that this band is in decline and anyone who tells you Halfords voice is as good as ever is just lying. His high vocals are completely shot to hell. He doesn't scream any more, he screeches. And if you call Priests performance "energetic" then I'd hate to see a band who you thought were lethargic. Halford can hardly walk now, hobbling around, hunched over the mike trying to read the teleprompter and screeching two cats stapled together. They've got nothing left. They were once my favourite band but over the last few years I just can't be bothered.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Hey, it could be worse. The band could've made an album with Lou Reed.
I do agree with JD in that JP is misusing their time somewhat, as they could've done a new album first and then do their final tour. However, I don't agree with JJ nor Budred about the live performances. Judas Priest have been nothing short of incredible as far as live acts go. Nobody that I've seen live so far has delivered a performance as energetic, aesthetically pleasing, professional, and complex as JP has. In fact, I wish they could continue touring even if Rob ends up in a wheelchair. At least it would be decorated with spikes and skulls and shoot flames from the back. Plus they have Richie now. New blood=new ideas=higher possibility of a kickass album.
[jimmyjames] Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:03:19 PM
That's because if Halford recorded himself taking a shit you'd say it sounded fantastic.
You left me out of that statement, JJ. I have been around and watching Priest / Halford since JD and Bud and I couldn't disagree more. The Priest concert in Hammond, IL (Chicago) was one of the most earth-shaking performances of any band I have seen. Halford claims to have given up smoking and I say that he has never been stronger. Only thing close was Painkiller Tour, IMO. Adding Richie to the mix, while not KK, was a genuine treat.
"Energetic" is a subjective term but, damn, were they on top of their game in Hammond. "Halford can hardly walk" is WAY off the mark. IMHO, at least. I just hope some bootleg will surface from that show to help prove the point.
jimmyjames wrote:
But you have nothing to compare their live performance to Vail. The only time you've seen them has been in the last few years. Ask guys like JD and Budred who saw them in the 80s when they were at their peak and they'll tell you that this band is in decline and anyone who tells you Halfords voice is as good as ever is just lying. His high vocals are completely shot to hell. He doesn't scream any more, he screeches. And if you call Priests performance "energetic" then I'd hate to see a band who you thought were lethargic. Halford can hardly walk now, hobbling around, hunched over the mike trying to read the teleprompter and screeching two cats stapled together. They've got nothing left. They were once my favourite band but over the last few years I just can't be bothered.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Hey, it could be worse. The band could've made an album with Lou Reed.
I do agree with JD in that JP is misusing their time somewhat, as they could've done a new album first and then do their final tour. However, I don't agree with JJ nor Budred about the live performances. Judas Priest have been nothing short of incredible as far as live acts go. Nobody that I've seen live so far has delivered a performance as energetic, aesthetically pleasing, professional, and complex as JP has. In fact, I wish they could continue touring even if Rob ends up in a wheelchair. At least it would be decorated with spikes and skulls and shoot flames from the back. Plus they have Richie now. New blood=new ideas=higher possibility of a kickass album.
[guitardude] Thursday, January 12, 2012 5:45:12 PM
I first Priest in 1982 on the SRV tour, and may times since then. They have alwaysbeen one of the tightest bands I have ever seen. Not every time was perfect, but it was always good. Rob`s vocals this time around were strong and accurate. I was quite amazed at how well he sounded just last October. the equipment issues aside last that night I saw them, was a damn good show. They might be as young as many of these excuse for bands we have these days, but Priest still sets the bar mighty damn high!
[You Don't Know What It's Like!] Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:07:05 AM
All a bit harsh, I would say. I first saw Priest in 1983 at the Hammersmith Odeon, and have seen them 17 times, all in, since.
Certainly, the 1983, 1988 (Ram It Down) & 1991 (Painkiller) shows were excellent, but then again we're talking up to 30 years ago and the band were all much younger, so of course they were going to be a lot more energetic.
I've heard plenty of bootlegs from the 70's & 80's where Rob's live vocals have been all over the place, so that's nothing new really.
Yes, age does take it's toll sadly, but, if you can, then we all have to make allowances for that.
What I will say though, is that these Epitaph shows, for me anyway, have been some of the best in Priest's recent past.
I saw them on the 2005 Angel Of Retribution tour & the 2008 / 2009 Priest Feast tour, and they were good (they're never bad), but on this tour they certainly seem to be giving that bit extra - whether it's bcause it's the last "world" tour, or maybe it's the "new blood" input of Richie Faulkner, I'm not sure.
Rob, however is really giving it his best shot with his vocals - Victim Of Changes in Bournemouth (the last time I saw them in 2011) was jaw-droppingly good.
I've seen them with Ripper & now I've seen them with Richie... & it's still Judas f#ckin' Priest!
Personally speaking, I'd have loved to see them in the 70's, but that ain't ever going to happen, so I'm making the most of them while I still can... & I suggest everyone does the same too.
But you have nothing to compare their live performance to Vail. The only time you've seen them has been in the last few years. Ask guys like JD and Budred who saw them in the 80s when they were at their peak and they'll tell you that this band is in decline and anyone who tells you Halfords voice is as good as ever is just lying. His high vocals are completely shot to hell. He doesn't scream any more, he screeches. And if you call Priests performance "energetic" then I'd hate to see a band who you thought were lethargic. Halford can hardly walk now, hobbling around, hunched over the mike trying to read the teleprompter and screeching two cats stapled together. They've got nothing left. They were once my favourite band but over the last few years I just can't be bothered.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Hey, it could be worse. The band could've made an album with Lou Reed.
I do agree with JD in that JP is misusing their time somewhat, as they could've done a new album first and then do their final tour. However, I don't agree with JJ nor Budred about the live performances. Judas Priest have been nothing short of incredible as far as live acts go. Nobody that I've seen live so far has delivered a performance as energetic, aesthetically pleasing, professional, and complex as JP has. In fact, I wish they could continue touring even if Rob ends up in a wheelchair. At least it would be decorated with spikes and skulls and shoot flames from the back. Plus they have Richie now. New blood=new ideas=higher possibility of a kickass album.
Edited at: Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:08:01 AM
[Head banger] Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:50:56 AM
I didnt see them in the 80's I did see the painkiller tour, and this set was at least as good as that one, IMO [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, January 12, 2012 1:45:02 AM)
jimmyjames wrote:
But you have nothing to compare their live performance to Vail. The only time you've seen them has been in the last few years. Ask guys like JD and Budred who saw them in the 80s when they were at their peak and they'll tell you that this band is in decline and anyone who tells you Halfords voice is as good as ever is just lying. His high vocals are completely shot to hell. He doesn't scream any more, he screeches. And if you call Priests performance "energetic" then I'd hate to see a band who you thought were lethargic. Halford can hardly walk now, hobbling around, hunched over the mike trying to read the teleprompter and screeching two cats stapled together. They've got nothing left. They were once my favourite band but over the last few years I just can't be bothered.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Hey, it could be worse. The band could've made an album with Lou Reed.
I do agree with JD in that JP is misusing their time somewhat, as they could've done a new album first and then do their final tour. However, I don't agree with JJ nor Budred about the live performances. Judas Priest have been nothing short of incredible as far as live acts go. Nobody that I've seen live so far has delivered a performance as energetic, aesthetically pleasing, professional, and complex as JP has. In fact, I wish they could continue touring even if Rob ends up in a wheelchair. At least it would be decorated with spikes and skulls and shoot flames from the back. Plus they have Richie now. New blood=new ideas=higher possibility of a kickass album.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:29:28 AM
Jimmy is probably right when he says they are not as good live nowadays as they were in the 80's,I have not seen the band live since 1988 so I can't judge this tour live but from what I've seen on youtube I'd say Jimmy is pretty much right,however I do think there are shows when he is off and on....probably more shows when he is off for sure but I belive there is a small percentage of shows when he is on his game. I heard the Seattle show he struggled a bit but was still a great show but other shows I've heard he was on the mark.
I couldn't go this tour my stomach was totally wasted and just now recovering from the aftermath of it all ect...but had I not been sick I would of gone for the spirit of Judas Priest....I really don't care if I am standing there live and how loud it is if he is off ,the shock value of it all makes up for it. Like Budred said how disappointed he was in the live show...I couldn't have that feeling because of my likings for the spirit of the band in my own way. My passion is in the studio albums over live shows.
[guidogodoy] Thursday, January 12, 2012 1:55:48 AM
You left me out of that statement, JJ. I have been around and watching Priest / Halford since JD and Bud and I couldn't disagree more. The Priest concert in Hammond, IL (Chicago) was one of the most earth-shaking performances of any band I have seen. Halford claims to have given up smoking and I say that he has never been stronger. Only thing close was Painkiller Tour, IMO. Adding Richie to the mix, while not KK, was a genuine treat.
"Energetic" is a subjective term but, damn, were they on top of their game in Hammond. "Halford can hardly walk" is WAY off the mark. IMHO, at least. I just hope some bootleg will surface from that show to help prove the point.
But you have nothing to compare their live performance to Vail. The only time you've seen them has been in the last few years. Ask guys like JD and Budred who saw them in the 80s when they were at their peak and they'll tell you that this band is in decline and anyone who tells you Halfords voice is as good as ever is just lying. His high vocals are completely shot to hell. He doesn't scream any more, he screeches. And if you call Priests performance "energetic" then I'd hate to see a band who you thought were lethargic. Halford can hardly walk now, hobbling around, hunched over the mike trying to read the teleprompter and screeching two cats stapled together. They've got nothing left. They were once my favourite band but over the last few years I just can't be bothered.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Hey, it could be worse. The band could've made an album with Lou Reed.
I do agree with JD in that JP is misusing their time somewhat, as they could've done a new album first and then do their final tour. However, I don't agree with JJ nor Budred about the live performances. Judas Priest have been nothing short of incredible as far as live acts go. Nobody that I've seen live so far has delivered a performance as energetic, aesthetically pleasing, professional, and complex as JP has. In fact, I wish they could continue touring even if Rob ends up in a wheelchair. At least it would be decorated with spikes and skulls and shoot flames from the back. Plus they have Richie now. New blood=new ideas=higher possibility of a kickass album.
[jimmyjames] Thursday, January 12, 2012 1:45:02 AM
But you have nothing to compare their live performance to Vail. The only time you've seen them has been in the last few years. Ask guys like JD and Budred who saw them in the 80s when they were at their peak and they'll tell you that this band is in decline and anyone who tells you Halfords voice is as good as ever is just lying. His high vocals are completely shot to hell. He doesn't scream any more, he screeches. And if you call Priests performance "energetic" then I'd hate to see a band who you thought were lethargic. Halford can hardly walk now, hobbling around, hunched over the mike trying to read the teleprompter and screeching two cats stapled together. They've got nothing left. They were once my favourite band but over the last few years I just can't be bothered. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, January 08, 2012 11:22:00 AM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Hey, it could be worse. The band could've made an album with Lou Reed.
I do agree with JD in that JP is misusing their time somewhat, as they could've done a new album first and then do their final tour. However, I don't agree with JJ nor Budred about the live performances. Judas Priest have been nothing short of incredible as far as live acts go. Nobody that I've seen live so far has delivered a performance as energetic, aesthetically pleasing, professional, and complex as JP has. In fact, I wish they could continue touring even if Rob ends up in a wheelchair. At least it would be decorated with spikes and skulls and shoot flames from the back. Plus they have Richie now. New blood=new ideas=higher possibility of a kickass album.
Hey, it could be worse. The band could've made an album with Lou Reed.
I do agree with JD in that JP is misusing their time somewhat, as they could've done a new album first and then do their final tour. However, I don't agree with JJ nor Budred about the live performances. Judas Priest have been nothing short of incredible as far as live acts go. Nobody that I've seen live so far has delivered a performance as energetic, aesthetically pleasing, professional, and complex as JP has. In fact, I wish they could continue touring even if Rob ends up in a wheelchair. At least it would be decorated with spikes and skulls and shoot flames from the back. Plus they have Richie now. New blood=new ideas=higher possibility of a kickass album.
[Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, January 08, 2012 11:23:43 AM
Oh!
And I really hope they release a live DVD of their next tour. Maybe they can release a new album/live DVD combo or something!
[Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, January 08, 2012 11:22:00 AM
Hey, it could be worse. The band could've made an album with Lou Reed.
I do agree with JD in that JP is misusing their time somewhat, as they could've done a new album first and then do their final tour. However, I don't agree with JJ nor Budred about the live performances. Judas Priest have been nothing short of incredible as far as live acts go. Nobody that I've seen live so far has delivered a performance as energetic, aesthetically pleasing, professional, and complex as JP has. In fact, I wish they could continue touring even if Rob ends up in a wheelchair. At least it would be decorated with spikes and skulls and shoot flames from the back. Plus they have Richie now. New blood=new ideas=higher possibility of a kickass album.
[The Metallian] Sunday, January 08, 2012 9:56:24 AM
And this is one of the reasons i have given up on listenin to Priest!
Sure i liked Nostar and Angel,but now it is 2012 and all we had was 2 albums since Rob returned in July 2003,almost 9 years!
And they don't released old stuff,live stuff from the archives,just more stupid greatest hits!
In 2010 i simply gave up,and then after Idol i took all me Priest cd's and moved them a storage area where cd's that never get played hang out!
Kind of like the island for misfit toys!LOL!
I even stopped wearing my Priest tshirts too after that Idol thing!
I was embarassed and still is!
I have moved onto other styles of metal music that feed my metal hunger!
And Priest have been left behind!
I only come in here time to time to see how u guys are doing etc!
I will not buy a live Eptiaph album,no way!
Not even sure i would buy a new studio album either seein it would just not get played!
They are boring these days in my opinion because they do not have new material. I was ready for new non-experimental material in 2007, 2 years after Angel Of Retribution and the band still haven't delivered anything yet besides an over produced watered down rock opera LP in 2008 that sucks.
And now 4 years later they are touring instead of working on new material. They should of canceled the epitaph tour altogether after K.K.'s departure and did the new album first and then hit the world tour. Because they chose to do this Epitaph tour,this 'new album" will NOT be released this year,we will get a title for the album and all track titles,an album cover and 1 sample but I'll bet the album doesn't come out till January 2013. Sad.
They have misused thier time since Rob has come back. They should have 4 studio albums....2005,2007 which should of been Nostradamus...2009 they should of had a killer album out and 2011 another one,it pisses me off big time!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, January 07, 2012 10:44:28 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Bollocks. The band has descended into irrelevance. The only people keen to hear what they come up with next are the core dozen or so people who regularly post on this site. The rest of the audience are just keen to hear the same old set they've been cranking out since 82. They are, I'm sad to say, a nostalgia act now and one that can't fill arenas at that. This is not a band at the top otf their game. Being able to play your set competently doesn't mean your at the top of your game. You would hope after 30 years they could do that with there eyes closed. When a band is at the top they are generating excitement among the fans. This band does not do that any more. They are trying to scrape every last cent out of it before they have to start wheeling the Metal God out there in a wheelchair.
Head banger wrote:
they may not be selling out stadiums but they are totaly on their game this tour.
jimmyjames wrote:
I have no doubt there will be a live album and dvd from this tour. Not that anyone will care or purchase it. They need to put out lives from the Painkiller and DOTF tours and also release the SFV one as a CD. No-one gives a shit now. What's the point of keeping for posterity performances from when you are well past your peak and unable to fill arenas and denying your fans performances from when you are at the top of your game? Weird.
Edited at: Saturday, January 07, 2012 11:40:01 PM
Edited at: Sunday, January 08, 2012 9:58:04 AM
[Head banger] Sunday, January 08, 2012 9:35:39 AM
the only thing that was not as good was the opening acts. Black label is a waste of my time, and thin lizzy never was that good, now they sure arent. in hindsight should have skipped the oppeners, not often I say that.
back in the day the painkiller tour turned me on to testament, and megadeath kicks ass live.... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Sunday, January 08, 2012 9:27:14 AM)
Head banger wrote:
I agree about the compilations. especialy in this day of digital music I fail to see the point.
but I dont agree with your view on the live performance. the show I saw was easily as good as the painkiller tour, and better than anything I have seen since. Painkiller was my first tour, but I thought they kicked ass then, and kicked ass this tour.
personaly I want a new album, and then a new tour.....
Budred wrote:
Sorry to say but I agree.
It seems as though you're the only one bold enough to post the truth.
I do it in subtle ways at times but you just put it out there. I still love them but only because of what they've done not
what they're doing and, I know I'll get ripped for this, but they're not on top of their game live anymore either. They were
good but far removed from what I've seen in the past. All these freakin' compilations and live albums drive me crazy also.
Most here hate (don't like) Ripper but at least with him they were working. Since Rob's comeback it's been all downhill.
One (good) album in ten years. WTF.(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, January 07, 2012 10:44:28 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Bollocks. The band has descended into irrelevance. The only people keen to hear what they come up with next are the core dozen or so people who regularly post on this site. The rest of the audience are just keen to hear the same old set they've been cranking out since 82. They are, I'm sad to say, a nostalgia act now and one that can't fill arenas at that. This is not a band at the top otf their game. Being able to play your set competently doesn't mean your at the top of your game. You would hope after 30 years they could do that with there eyes closed. When a band is at the top they are generating excitement among the fans. This band does not do that any more. They are trying to scrape every last cent out of it before they have to start wheeling the Metal God out there in a wheelchair.
Head banger wrote:
they may not be selling out stadiums but they are totaly on their game this tour.
jimmyjames wrote:
I have no doubt there will be a live album and dvd from this tour. Not that anyone will care or purchase it. They need to put out lives from the Painkiller and DOTF tours and also release the SFV one as a CD. No-one gives a shit now. What's the point of keeping for posterity performances from when you are well past your peak and unable to fill arenas and denying your fans performances from when you are at the top of your game? Weird.
Edited at: Sunday, January 08, 2012 5:23:42 AM
[Head banger] Sunday, January 08, 2012 9:27:14 AM
I agree about the compilations. especialy in this day of digital music I fail to see the point.
but I dont agree with your view on the live performance. the show I saw was easily as good as the painkiller tour, and better than anything I have seen since. Painkiller was my first tour, but I thought they kicked ass then, and kicked ass this tour.
personaly I want a new album, and then a new tour.....
Sorry to say but I agree.
It seems as though you're the only one bold enough to post the truth.
I do it in subtle ways at times but you just put it out there. I still love them but only because of what they've done not
what they're doing and, I know I'll get ripped for this, but they're not on top of their game live anymore either. They were
good but far removed from what I've seen in the past. All these freakin' compilations and live albums drive me crazy also.
Most here hate (don't like) Ripper but at least with him they were working. Since Rob's comeback it's been all downhill.
One (good) album in ten years. WTF.(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, January 07, 2012 10:44:28 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Bollocks. The band has descended into irrelevance. The only people keen to hear what they come up with next are the core dozen or so people who regularly post on this site. The rest of the audience are just keen to hear the same old set they've been cranking out since 82. They are, I'm sad to say, a nostalgia act now and one that can't fill arenas at that. This is not a band at the top otf their game. Being able to play your set competently doesn't mean your at the top of your game. You would hope after 30 years they could do that with there eyes closed. When a band is at the top they are generating excitement among the fans. This band does not do that any more. They are trying to scrape every last cent out of it before they have to start wheeling the Metal God out there in a wheelchair.
Head banger wrote:
they may not be selling out stadiums but they are totaly on their game this tour.
jimmyjames wrote:
I have no doubt there will be a live album and dvd from this tour. Not that anyone will care or purchase it. They need to put out lives from the Painkiller and DOTF tours and also release the SFV one as a CD. No-one gives a shit now. What's the point of keeping for posterity performances from when you are well past your peak and unable to fill arenas and denying your fans performances from when you are at the top of your game? Weird.
Edited at: Sunday, January 08, 2012 5:23:42 AM
[Budred] Sunday, January 08, 2012 5:22:58 AM
Sorry to say but I agree.
It seems as though you're the only one bold enough to post the truth.
I do it in subtle ways at times but you just put it out there. I still love them but only because of what they've done not
what they're doing and, I know I'll get ripped for this, but they're not on top of their game live anymore either. They were
good but far removed from what I've seen in the past. All these freakin' compilations and live albums drive me crazy also.
Most here hate (don't like) Ripper but at least with him they were working. Since Rob's comeback it's been all downhill.
One (good) album in ten years. WTF.[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, January 07, 2012 10:44:28 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Bollocks. The band has descended into irrelevance. The only people keen to hear what they come up with next are the core dozen or so people who regularly post on this site. The rest of the audience are just keen to hear the same old set they've been cranking out since 82. They are, I'm sad to say, a nostalgia act now and one that can't fill arenas at that. This is not a band at the top otf their game. Being able to play your set competently doesn't mean your at the top of your game. You would hope after 30 years they could do that with there eyes closed. When a band is at the top they are generating excitement among the fans. This band does not do that any more. They are trying to scrape every last cent out of it before they have to start wheeling the Metal God out there in a wheelchair.
Head banger wrote:
they may not be selling out stadiums but they are totaly on their game this tour.
jimmyjames wrote:
I have no doubt there will be a live album and dvd from this tour. Not that anyone will care or purchase it. They need to put out lives from the Painkiller and DOTF tours and also release the SFV one as a CD. No-one gives a shit now. What's the point of keeping for posterity performances from when you are well past your peak and unable to fill arenas and denying your fans performances from when you are at the top of your game? Weird.
Edited at: Sunday, January 08, 2012 5:23:42 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, January 07, 2012 11:38:14 PM
They are boring these days in my opinion because they do not have new material. I was ready for new non-experimental material in 2007, 2 years after Angel Of Retribution and the band still haven't delivered anything yet besides an over produced watered down rock opera LP in 2008 that sucks.
And now 4 years later they are touring instead of working on new material. They should of canceled the epitaph tour altogether after K.K.'s departure and did the new album first and then hit the world tour. Because they chose to do this Epitaph tour,this 'new album" will NOT be released this year,we will get a title for the album and all track titles,an album cover and 1 sample but I'll bet the album doesn't come out till January 2013. Sad.
They have misused thier time since Rob has come back. They should have 4 studio albums....2005,2007 which should of been Nostradamus...2009 they should of had a killer album out and 2011 another one,it pisses me off big time!
Bollocks. The band has descended into irrelevance. The only people keen to hear what they come up with next are the core dozen or so people who regularly post on this site. The rest of the audience are just keen to hear the same old set they've been cranking out since 82. They are, I'm sad to say, a nostalgia act now and one that can't fill arenas at that. This is not a band at the top otf their game. Being able to play your set competently doesn't mean your at the top of your game. You would hope after 30 years they could do that with there eyes closed. When a band is at the top they are generating excitement among the fans. This band does not do that any more. They are trying to scrape every last cent out of it before they have to start wheeling the Metal God out there in a wheelchair.
Head banger wrote:
they may not be selling out stadiums but they are totaly on their game this tour.
jimmyjames wrote:
I have no doubt there will be a live album and dvd from this tour. Not that anyone will care or purchase it. They need to put out lives from the Painkiller and DOTF tours and also release the SFV one as a CD. No-one gives a shit now. What's the point of keeping for posterity performances from when you are well past your peak and unable to fill arenas and denying your fans performances from when you are at the top of your game? Weird.
Edited at: Saturday, January 07, 2012 11:40:01 PM
[jimmyjames] Saturday, January 07, 2012 10:44:28 PM
Bollocks. The band has descended into irrelevance. The only people keen to hear what they come up with next are the core dozen or so people who regularly post on this site. The rest of the audience are just keen to hear the same old set they've been cranking out since 82. They are, I'm sad to say, a nostalgia act now and one that can't fill arenas at that. This is not a band at the top otf their game. Being able to play your set competently doesn't mean your at the top of your game. You would hope after 30 years they could do that with there eyes closed. When a band is at the top they are generating excitement among the fans. This band does not do that any more. They are trying to scrape every last cent out of it before they have to start wheeling the Metal God out there in a wheelchair.
they may not be selling out stadiums but they are totaly on their game this tour.
jimmyjames wrote:
I have no doubt there will be a live album and dvd from this tour. Not that anyone will care or purchase it. They need to put out lives from the Painkiller and DOTF tours and also release the SFV one as a CD. No-one gives a shit now. What's the point of keeping for posterity performances from when you are well past your peak and unable to fill arenas and denying your fans performances from when you are at the top of your game? Weird.
[Head banger] Friday, January 06, 2012 9:35:13 PM
they may not be selling out stadiums but they are totaly on their game this tour. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Friday, January 06, 2012 8:39:11 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I have no doubt there will be a live album and dvd from this tour. Not that anyone will care or purchase it. They need to put out lives from the Painkiller and DOTF tours and also release the SFV one as a CD. No-one gives a shit now. What's the point of keeping for posterity performances from when you are well past your peak and unable to fill arenas and denying your fans performances from when you are at the top of your game? Weird.
[jimmyjames] Friday, January 06, 2012 8:39:11 PM
I have no doubt there will be a live album and dvd from this tour. Not that anyone will care or purchase it. They need to put out lives from the Painkiller and DOTF tours and also release the SFV one as a CD. No-one gives a shit now. What's the point of keeping for posterity performances from when you are well past your peak and unable to fill arenas and denying your fans performances from when you are at the top of your game? Weird.
[metallo] Friday, January 06, 2012 4:48:03 PM
new Live Album? Why not. Being an Epitaph tour it could be the right way to say goodbye, but we are still waiting for a new studio Album and then maybe a new tour to promote it and then maybe an epitaph Live Album, so it could be in 2015.... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Judas Priest / One For The Road from Saturday, December 24, 2011 11:32:50 PM)
Judas Priest / One For The Road wrote:
Judas Priest / One For The Road on Facebook!! Take a peek!!
As for a live Epitaph album, I believe you are correct. As I look at this tour and had the pleasure of seeing it three times, it would be a great idea. In 1979 Unleashed In The East hit record store shelves and I believe was the album that had people starting to really take a listen.
The band has been performing at a blistering pace and each and every show I seen was breathtaking and would definitely be worth having in our collections. The show alone with the pyros and lasers was cool as hell. As they take a break I look to their date in Japan again at the Buddakon. This is where Unleashed was made and I think it would be very nostalgic of them to re-release Unleashed in the East ( Epitaph Style ) almost 40 years later.
KEEP IT METAL!!
Judas Priest / One For The Road
[Budred] Friday, January 06, 2012 4:07:48 PM
Let's see, there's
Unleashed In The East
Priest Live
Live 97
Live In London
A Touch Of Evil Live
The 82 Vengeance Live Video
Rising In The East Live Video
British Steel Live Disc And Video
Yeah, Priest needs a new live album. Edited at: Friday, January 06, 2012 4:09:19 PM
[Brian_Evans] Friday, January 06, 2012 1:58:50 PM
Why bother with another live cd that most fans don't want ...jeez. Hey Jimmy, time for another rant ...lol!
[Head banger] Friday, January 06, 2012 8:00:11 AM
realy, it should only take the band away from new material for what a day? get a real producer to deal with it, dont co produce shit and then get on with the tour, write the new CD on off days and get done and record....
No damn live albums,it only gives them an excuse not to work on new material.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, January 06, 2012 4:59:51 AM
No damn live albums,it only gives them an excuse not to work on new material.
[Judas Priest / One For The Road] Saturday, December 24, 2011 11:32:50 PM
Judas Priest / One For The Road on Facebook!! Take a peek!!
As for a live Epitaph album, I believe you are correct. As I look at this tour and had the pleasure of seeing it three times, it would be a great idea. In 1979 Unleashed In The East hit record store shelves and I believe was the album that had people starting to really take a listen.
The band has been performing at a blistering pace and each and every show I seen was breathtaking and would definitely be worth having in our collections. The show alone with the pyros and lasers was cool as hell. As they take a break I look to their date in Japan again at the Buddakon. This is where Unleashed was made and I think it would be very nostalgic of them to re-release Unleashed in the East ( Epitaph Style ) almost 40 years later.
KEEP IT METAL!!
Judas Priest / One For The Road
[wwol] Saturday, December 10, 2011 5:59:03 PM
Is it too soon to ask that the best concert ever be captured in time...... Got any thoughts????
As far as them having nothing left, well, I can tell you that Rob has plently of fuel left in the tank!
