Have you noticed how strangely autobiographical it was at the time he wrote it? The Whole Album Rocks! I hated Twist the first time I heard it and now, it's one of my favorite songs on the CD!!
I can put that CD in my car and play it for a month straight and never tire of it!
I've got to get Rio, I have not done it thusfar.

		guidogodoy wrote:
		I've said it before. Sent freakin' CHILLS down my spine first time I heard it. Oddly enough, got Halford / Rio III playing as I type.      spapad wrote: Resssssuurrrrreeccccttttioonnnnnn!!!!! Is the best damn thing I've heard in years! LOVE IT!!!      guidogodoy wrote: I was also one to boycott all Ripper-era stuff. More out of respect than anything else. Resurection kicked my ass back into Halford and, of course, all since he rejoined Priest is gold!! AOR a solid buy.      mgdman wrote: Don't feel alone! I did not listen to the Ripper stuff either, I've still only heard the ones on the Metaology Disc! Angel is  a great disc you need to get it if you don't have it! Keep the Faith !!       METALMANJP wrote: Forgive me Priest fans for I have sinned. I have to admit something, I kinda gave up on Priest back when Halford left the band . I didn't start  listening to them from that time until just before Nostradamus was released. I've never heard any of the ripper alblums and I've never heard Angel of Retribution !  I feel better now that I got that off my chest !

Don't get me wrong,when my kid fails and pulls his head out....I will be there to pick up the pieces.But its gonna be a while.I am not a violent parent or anything by all means,and I am not unfair by all means,he is really that delusional right now.     Hey ronhartsell,it sounds like your kids had a grip on reality from the sounds of it. Thats great to hear.Does that mean "you" had to kick some butt when they were younger?  I'm starting to be afraid of you ronhartsell!!! lol!


Bev,that is unreasonable for him to make the kid walk up to the store for an unworthy reason I agree.

		ronhartsell wrote:
		I guess I'm one of the lucky ones...the eldest step-daughter is married with a daughter and getting along great, wonderful guy she chose...my step-son is an asst. mngr., engaged to a wonderful lass...and my daughter just graduated H.S, mid-term and has had a job for the last year and is going to school part-time to prepare for fall classes...so I have no complaints...but I totally get where you're coming from...kids want to 'act' so grown up at a really young age but don't want any of the responsibilties that go with it...like they're owed a life...you have to make your life, it usually doesn't fall in your lap...and I do beieve a majority of it has to do with the parents (or the lack thereof)...      J.D. DIAMOND wrote:   Wow,so I'm not the only one who noticed that these kids of today are indeed getting lazy.It does stem from thier parents,not always but most of the time.My kid does not live with me,he never has and since he turned 13 years old he went down hill.Now he is living at my worthless loser sister's house and roams between there and his sleezy mother's house and avoids my house.....why? Because he is afraid of me right now because the next time I see him,my foot is going soooo far up his ass he will never get it out!  I'm going to sit back and watch him fail,and to tell ya the honest truth....I am enjoying it.   If some of you out here are one of these lazy kids....get off your &*%#!@* asses and do something!!  Edited at: Saturday, March 07, 2009 3:01:19 AM

As far as it is possible, while my son is in school, he is focusing on grades so he can get whatever job he wants after he graduates.  Having said that, I think he's a pretty well balanced kid.  He still does chores to earn allowance.  He's not old enough to get a job, legally.  The past couple of years he's done community service at the aquarium or humane society.  It looks good on a college application.  Until he is legally permitted to work, he earns extra cash working with his Dad, who is a sailboat rigger and sailing instructor.  They sometimes work together on the two rental properties we own.  I don't think Harley would work for him if he was scared of him.  Of course, I've never told him the story of how he got pissed at his oldest son, Harley's step-brother, and, because he forgot to ask his Dad they were out of milk his Dad made him walk a couple miles to the 7/11 in the snow at 11:00 pm to get it ... eldest was 7 years old at the time.  I think that's plain stupid, and he must have come home drunk to make his kid do that ... stupid, if you ask me.  Thank goodness he has evolved a little as a parent ; )

Vail! you are no softie and never have been! You have drive and determination that us "old folks" like to see!

		Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
		Ooookkkaaaaayyyyyy...Looks like I'll have to do a double-confession: 1). No, I don't have a job right now... I'm in college now and living off Federal Student Aid... slaughter me if you wish... 2). HOWEVER!!! I did have a summer job last year...which was working at an amusement park called Knott's Berry Farm...operating kiddie rides... While it was fun operating the control panel of several rides, the hours were a bit exhausting (12 hrs a day, six days a week), but at least I decided to stay and give it a go for the season, unlike other trainees who would walk out after only half a day's worth of work. All the rides were outdoors, so I was pretty much washing my work uniform everyday because I would sweat so much. Had to quit though, since this amusement park was in one region in the state and my college is 500 miles away. Still, it felt good getting that envelope from the Payroll office every Friday and looking at what was achieved in the long run: money, of course! For food and other small necessities during the school year.  I know I'll probably sound like a hypocrite, but I think the problem with my generation is that most imagine a job as having something to do with being in an office or something else less laborous, which is why many of us are in college in the first place, along with making parents proud. We're a bunch of softies, in other words.

Were you lucky enough to get a morsel of lead paint off the pealing  school walls for lunch?

		Deep Freeze wrote:
		Sweater? SWEATER??!?!? We didn't get no stinkin' SWEATERS!!!! We suffered in the snow while walking to school, UPHILL...BOTH ways and we were grateful!!!!!      spapad wrote: Did you save the lint up to create yarn for that one and only winter sweater each year? LOL I mean 1 sweater for all of you, of course, had to take turns going out in the cold didn't you?      Deep Freeze wrote: Ate wood and rock??!?!?!?  BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! MAN!! My brothers and I had to share LINT and I thought WE had it bad................      guidogodoy wrote: DAMNIT, I worked all my way through highschool and college. The college job SUCKED! Six days a week at least (Futon King of East Lansing...yup, that was me!). Really hard times but I made it through with dual degrees and absolutely NO debt. Even turned down financial aid as I figured that there were people more deserving than me. Kids nowadays (shakes fist violently). Oh yeah, and I ate wood and ROCK and was happy to do so!!!      spapad wrote: I agree that it may seem that kids are lazy these days compared to the older generations before, and many are lazy because Mom and Dad have not asked them to do anything. Kids will do what is expected of them. I was expected to do chores for allowance when I was young. My daughter is now getting to the age that she is going to soon be introduced to the "washing machine" and the art of dishwashing. She just turned twelve so it's about time to ask more of her. By the time I was 14 I had a summer paper delivery route, and at 15 I got an evening job at a restaurant and still kept my grades up. My first paycheck was 68.00 dollars and all I could think about was how rich I was! LOL Album shopping! While today, When my daughter reaches highschool, I would not want her working as much as I did during school because to prepare for a good collage career these days you need harder classes than what I took to get by. BUT, come summertime, I would rather see her working and making money and getting that sense of accomplishment that comes with earning money, than out getting into trouble.      Becks wrote: I agree with the sentiment that kids are getting lazy. I'm 24 and have been working in some form or another since I was about 12 - paper runs etc. Kids these days think money grows on trees and don't understand you've got to EARN IT, in the real world it doesn't get handed out on a silver platter.

We are all in this together! We come to this board regardless of experience, age, contacts, orientation, beliefs, countries, language, etc... for one thing and one thing only, "Our" love of Judas Priest! For that I am always proud of each and everyone of us!
Long Live Judas Priest and the friendships we have here!  

Love to all on this board!

		MG_Metalgoddess wrote:
		Good for you Bev!!!!   Keep your chin up!!  Its sad when one is so excited about thier experiances and want to share them with other people, who they can or think they can relate to..   should have to feel that way.... Its just silly.  I was very fotunate to have had my experiance with The Priest.. once in a lifetime chance.  Iam so very greatful, to them, and to everyone I have gotten to know through them, Including the Steel Mill team, KK really has a one of kind team working for him!  ANd of course all of my Metal Judas Priest Family.. which I hope you know Includes you, and always has.  Hugs MG~      Bev wrote: Love you ...  Go have fun.... When I feel a little insecure, I'll remember to come back to this thread for smiles.  Thanks!  I really needed that today (((hugs))) Uncle Guido, Keep yourself well, sir!

Think I needed to just lay the cards out there, than anything.

She is an extremely beautiful young lady!  Have you met her?

Jealousy is a difficult beast to tame, sometimes born from insecurity, sometimes a control issue.  None of us is immune to it.  It's how we deal with it  that makes the difference.  I have also written .. a long time ago, I had my chance.  There is no reason for me to be jealous of anyone.  So that issue is moot.  It's only recently that I am comfortable writing to KK, and that is usually through Jari.  It's not anything personal, usually about something another member has brought up, etc.  lol

I agree.  This board is about "our" band, the whole of the band ... all years ... all members, good, bad, etc.

Metal Love, Susan!

		spapad wrote:
		Bev? Why would we EVER hold something like that against you? The bottom line is your friend was married to Ian, they got on just fine for some time and she has a beautiful daughter. So what, it  may not have turned out to be the best match for her or him. That kind of stuff happens all the time. Myself, I was only marriend 6 years to my X, but look at what I gained! I thought I would never have children but Flora opened me up to a life of love and peace I never knew of! Anyone who would hold that against you is patently insane,  just like any member of this board being jealous of another member for having a relationship with band members or etc....... That whole line of thought is just not right. We should all be here sharing our experiences, as much as we feel comfortable, and just talking and having a great time!  That is what this board is for! For Fans of "Our" Band!  Love to you Bev!    (Quoting Message by Bev from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:20:26 PM)   Bev wrote:   Hopefully I can let sleeping dogs lie, or at least get this off my chest. Since letting on about my small, distant, connection ... I have had this uneasy gnawing in the back of my mind that folks somehow hold a grudge toward me by association.  That they don't believe I am a fan, because I am good friends with the woman that married Ian after Sue.  Lots of hardcore Halford fans may see this as an afront, maybe not.  Some may know more than I do about the years I missed while my friend lived in England.  She had her own group of friends.  I only heard from her on holidays, etc.  So I am serious when I say, I don't know anything and am really another fan like the rest of you.  She is still very guarded about those years, refuses to talk to anyone, more out of concern for her daughter's privacy than anything. So I hope we all can start fresh with that understanding.  I am here to contribute my small bit of politeness, pride, and protection.   And in return try to learn from you all, fill in the gaps that the years that passed have left gaping. Thanks for reading! Edited at: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:33:19 PM

I AGREE WITH YOU FREEZE. WALLS ARE NO GOOD. MY WIFE ALWAYS PUTS THEM UP BETWEEN US DUE TO THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN HER PAST, AND DUE TO THE WAY HER FATHER TREATED HER MOTHER. IT HURTS US QUITE OFTEN AND DIMINISHES WHAT SHOULD BE SOME REAL GOOD TIMES.

I THINK EACH INDIVIDUAL NEEDS TO HANDLE A SITUATION LIKE THIS IN A WAY THEY ARE COMFORTABLE. AND ALTHOUGH I AGREE WITH YOU THAT KEEPING UP BOUNDRIES ARE NO GOOD, I THINK ONCE YOU HAVE BEEN HURT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO LET YOUR GUARD DOWN IN THE FUTURE. WE MAY KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS, BUT HAVE A HARD TIME FOLLOWING THROUGH ON IT. IT CAN BE VERY FRIGHTNING.

WE ARE ALL HUMAN AND WANT TO PROTECT OURSELVES. BUT TO FIND TRUE HAPPINESS WE NEED TO BE OPEN AND HONEST, WHICH CAN LEAD TO HURT. IT'S A VICIOUS CYCLE.

		Deep Freeze wrote:
		Interesting comments. I have mentioned the pain of love often. I think it is a part of life. I have always been the other way, in that I will allow love to find me and I do not create walls. Of course, I have experienced the very pain that you all fear so much. Yet, I am here. I live! I muddled through my darkest hour and I came away a better person. We are all tempered by pain, just as metal is tempered through the flame. Heartbreak is as much a part of living as are death and taxes. I should think that my life would have been far less enjoyable had I avoided finding true love simply out of fear that I could be hurt.

oh joe,, I can say I feel Love but Iam not in Love... I feel strange saying this but..  I too fell this way.. I dont know if I have found my soul mate... My soul wont let my heart go there...  I have been hurt by people I love my whole life,, and there is no wrecking ball to take down that wall...  I have built this wall so high.. no man will ever get through it.. for me..

E-mail me girl.. Even on my space..   I will chat with ya.. I get down too,, and then I get a temper.. because Iknow it me.. that has the wall the up.. but I never admitt it... sad but true.

		joedraper wrote:
		I love so many people. I'm so afraid of hurting them. I lost my soulmate. Married  a man that was sent from heaven, but at the same time, I don't know how to see him as a gift. I feel hard done by and spoilt, all at the same time. We're so different, but we have created this family together and to end all that would be wrong. I feel lost, misguided, and wrong. I know what love is but I'm yet to feel it. Am I true evil, or just lost?      Bev wrote: PS ... Dad is still alive.  Just reminiscing about friendship and how I came to love music, and JudasPriest ; ) Maybe it will help get me through the day. Cheers