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First time i listened to Nostradumas and thought oh my god what have they done?
Then 2nd time i listened 100% true...
I was this is pretty damn good!!!!
3rd time i freaking love it!
it gets better everytime
Some awesome songs great cd
9/10 so far Love it!Got my Priest tickets too
Acer Arena Sydney september 12
Opening for Judas Priest is
Cavalera Conspiracy which is also a awesome cd!
2brothers from SEPULTURA! one of my all time favorite thrash metal bands
Im going to review the new Priest album later in a week or so
Im going to thrash it first...then review it
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| [Rob Ward] Sunday, June 15, 2008 9:03:22 PM | |
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Your arrogance is only topped by your lack of manners; let’s talk up bringing shall we? You’re a blithering idiot to say the least, and you act like you’re above everyone else. I gave my honest opinion about Judas Priest latest cd, you spout off and call me stupid amongst other things, you attacked me I didn't attack you. Your clearly a person that thinks they are the smartest in the room which is a clear indicator to me that you are in fact a liberal, you talk down to people that you don't agree with and you haven't the mannerism to debate anything, another clear indicator of a liberal.
You want to judge me by the amount of friends I have on this board, I have been a member of this board for 5 years and only have 1 friend and counting this post a total of 66 posts. That's an indicator that I actually have a real life and only post when I feel that it's relevant to the band. You on the other hand have been a member for 3 years and yet you have well over 15,000 post and you’re being ignored by 21 people, that's an indicator to me that you have no life to speak of, that's about 13 post a day. Does your mom know your on your computer that much? I mean I'm sure you don't spend all of your internet time on the Judas Priest board, get a job man and do something with your life...
Count me as #22 on your ignore list, your a waste of time and I'll need to reevaluate myself because I find very disturbing that I would actually have something in common with loser like you....
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:01:58 AM)| |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | At the risk of GREAT personal annoyance, I will respond to you again.
Liberal?!?!? ME???? My good, YOUNG, man!...I am so conservative I make YOU look like a "New Dealer"! HA!!!!!!!!!!! Global Warming???HAHAHAHAA!! Oh my! I should probably thank you for the laugh. I did need one! I have an upset stomach from the spotted owl I had for breakfast. Incredible! You are a mere 40 years old, yet you have managed to become so tremendously arrogant in that short period!?!?! Ah well, there is certainly no accounting for upbringing.
I fear we have let this spiral out of control. I stand by my opinion of you and your actions. If you choose to further debate, you can do so with yourself, or perhaps Darth would like a go at you.. You are condemned by your own words, not mine. I cannot imagine ANY scenario in which a person could go to a particular band's OFFICIAL website and declare, in their own words, that they "hate" them, and then not expect retribution. Worse yet, the faked indignance is really beneath a man of your alleged " years", is it not? You are "man" enough to say it, you should be "man" enough to admit it. But again, upbringing.
Finally, I expect that you will respond to me. It is the nature of the guilty to profess their innocence. As you no doubt have heard before, jails are full of innocent people. In any event, you are free to continue to do and say whatever you wish. I am sure you and your one friend will enjoy your time here with us. You must be incredibly proud.
| | | Rob Ward wrote: | | Gee Deep, however did I come to that conclusion? Maybe this will refresh your memory;
"I think it is more than obvious that Mr. Ward is still craving attention. If you recall, he made inflammatory remarks many weeks ago and was called out on it then as well. This is not a person that anyone should consider a valid source of musical knowledge. We are not talking the R&D man at Sony here, people! This is a person that is simply looking for a reaction, and it appears there are many that are more than willing to oblige."
Or how about this part?
"Look, if the guy does not like the album, fine. He has every right to his opinion! I can accept that there are probably many more just like him in this world. However, you will note that most of them do not come here to the official site and bash on the Band. Clearly, we have an attention seeker on our hands. Worse yet, we are lending him credence by responding!"
Or how about this part when you call me stupid?
I know there are many of you that have been members of this site long enough to have seen this schtick more than once. I can remember some that were actually intelligent and presented an argument worthy of debate. I fear that is not the case with young Mr. Ward. Further discussion or counter-argument with this individual is the mental equivalent of debate with an Australian bushman regarding the intricasies of compound interest and bond investment. It is simply a waste of your time!
Why is it that you prefer for me to ignore you, but you couldn't find the restraint to do it yourself in the first place? Are you above being responded to? Let me guess you’re a liberal aren't you?
BTW, I'm 40 years old; you can save your speeches for your global warming POW WOW, and lets see the inflammatory remarks I made a few weeks ago.
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, June 13, 2008 10:40:10 AM)
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Indeed. I fail to see how it is that you can even suggest that I have "attacked" you or anyone else for that matter. In fact, I clearly stated that you are entitled to your opinion of the new album, did I not? I could not care less if you have a "reaction" to me or not. I would quite prefer you ignore me. I see that you have been here five years and yet you have ONE friend?? It is no surprise.
I stand by my previous comments. Your remarks were NOT of a constructive nature but rather, they were meant to cause discord; at this point and time I can honestly say I hate Judas Priest. THAT is a musical opinion??? Perhaps you should spend a bit more time in class (or should have) to get a clearer understanding of the words we use in the English language? By any standard, you could certainly use a lesson or two in manners.
I do not believe that it was I who asked for you to "leave". I certainly do not care if you are here or you are not. As I have mentioned before, it is not up to me and your ilk have come and gone so many times I have lost count. But, when one comes to an OFFICIAL site and expresses "hate" for the site's subject, I tend to believe it is not about having an opinion or exercising ones right to speech. It is an overt attempt to grab attention or agitate. (I will give you a moment to look those up as well)
Say what you will. You have that right. But there is no need to be a liar in addition to being a boor.
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Deep, I'm glad you’re the one everyone needs to look for to figure out who's who on the board. I don't do anything for a reaction; I posted what I thought about the cd and the singles that was previously released. It is you and Darth and a couple of others that attack someone for giving their honest opinion about the cd, it is you and they that try for a reaction. I never once called anyone a name or made a derogatory comment to or about anyone. I gave my honest opinion and because it wasn't a positive cool aid drinking opinion I am attacked for it.
I don't care what Judas Priest is trying to achieve with this cd, it sucks. I am one that likes music that is inspiring and entertaining, nothing in this cd is entertaining. I hate the guitar sound, I hate the guitar work, and I hate all the slow dragged out songs that sounds like the one before it. I don't like the vocals, it's a lame attempt at opera, and they are completely out of place. I don't like the cd and I don't need to leave the board because you or anyone else doesn't like what I say. If you and Darth can't handle what people say then it is you and he that needs to leave.
I am now, always have been, and always will be a Judas Priest fan, but I hate them for recording this cd and few others. Just because you write something that so completely different then anything anyone else has ever done, doesn't automatically make it something great. IMO they failed with this cd, if you or anyone else can't handle my opinion then TFB!
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I think it is more than obvious that Mr. Ward is still craving attention. If you recall, he made inflammatory remarks many weeks ago and was called out on it then as well. This is not a person that anyone should consider a valid source of musical knowledge. We are not talking the R&D man at Sony here, people! This is a person that is simply looking for a reaction, and it appears there are many that are more than willing to oblige.
Look, if the guy does not like the album, fine. He has every right to his opinion! I can accept that there are probably many more just like him in this world. However, you will note that most of them do not come here to the official site and bash on the Band. Clearly, we have an attention seeker on our hands. Worse yet, we are lending him credence by responding!
I know there are many of you that have been members of this site long enough to have seen this schtick more than once. I can remember some that were actually intelligent and presented an argument worthy of debate. I fear that is not the case with young Mr. Ward. Further discussion or counter-argument with this individual is the mental equivalent of debate with an Australian bushman regarding the intricasies of compound interest and bond investment. It is simply a waste of your time! |
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| [Deep Freeze] Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:01:58 AM | |
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At the risk of GREAT personal annoyance, I will respond to you again.
Liberal?!?!? ME???? My good, YOUNG, man!...I am so conservative I make YOU look like a "New Dealer"! HA!!!!!!!!!!! Global Warming???HAHAHAHAA!! Oh my! I should probably thank you for the laugh. I did need one! I have an upset stomach from the spotted owl I had for breakfast. Incredible! You are a mere 40 years old, yet you have managed to become so tremendously arrogant in that short period!?!?! Ah well, there is certainly no accounting for upbringing.
I fear we have let this spiral out of control. I stand by my opinion of you and your actions. If you choose to further debate, you can do so with yourself, or perhaps Darth would like a go at you.. You are condemned by your own words, not mine. I cannot imagine ANY scenario in which a person could go to a particular band's OFFICIAL website and declare, in their own words, that they "hate" them, and then not expect retribution. Worse yet, the faked indignance is really beneath a man of your alleged " years", is it not? You are "man" enough to say it, you should be "man" enough to admit it. But again, upbringing.
Finally, I expect that you will respond to me. It is the nature of the guilty to profess their innocence. As you no doubt have heard before, jails are full of innocent people. In any event, you are free to continue to do and say whatever you wish. I am sure you and your one friend will enjoy your time here with us. You must be incredibly proud.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Rob Ward from Friday, June 13, 2008 6:45:12 PM)| | | Rob Ward wrote: | | Gee Deep, however did I come to that conclusion? Maybe this will refresh your memory;
"I think it is more than obvious that Mr. Ward is still craving attention. If you recall, he made inflammatory remarks many weeks ago and was called out on it then as well. This is not a person that anyone should consider a valid source of musical knowledge. We are not talking the R&D man at Sony here, people! This is a person that is simply looking for a reaction, and it appears there are many that are more than willing to oblige."
Or how about this part?
"Look, if the guy does not like the album, fine. He has every right to his opinion! I can accept that there are probably many more just like him in this world. However, you will note that most of them do not come here to the official site and bash on the Band. Clearly, we have an attention seeker on our hands. Worse yet, we are lending him credence by responding!"
Or how about this part when you call me stupid?
I know there are many of you that have been members of this site long enough to have seen this schtick more than once. I can remember some that were actually intelligent and presented an argument worthy of debate. I fear that is not the case with young Mr. Ward. Further discussion or counter-argument with this individual is the mental equivalent of debate with an Australian bushman regarding the intricasies of compound interest and bond investment. It is simply a waste of your time!
Why is it that you prefer for me to ignore you, but you couldn't find the restraint to do it yourself in the first place? Are you above being responded to? Let me guess you’re a liberal aren't you?
BTW, I'm 40 years old; you can save your speeches for your global warming POW WOW, and lets see the inflammatory remarks I made a few weeks ago.
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, June 13, 2008 10:40:10 AM)
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Indeed. I fail to see how it is that you can even suggest that I have "attacked" you or anyone else for that matter. In fact, I clearly stated that you are entitled to your opinion of the new album, did I not? I could not care less if you have a "reaction" to me or not. I would quite prefer you ignore me. I see that you have been here five years and yet you have ONE friend?? It is no surprise.
I stand by my previous comments. Your remarks were NOT of a constructive nature but rather, they were meant to cause discord; at this point and time I can honestly say I hate Judas Priest. THAT is a musical opinion??? Perhaps you should spend a bit more time in class (or should have) to get a clearer understanding of the words we use in the English language? By any standard, you could certainly use a lesson or two in manners.
I do not believe that it was I who asked for you to "leave". I certainly do not care if you are here or you are not. As I have mentioned before, it is not up to me and your ilk have come and gone so many times I have lost count. But, when one comes to an OFFICIAL site and expresses "hate" for the site's subject, I tend to believe it is not about having an opinion or exercising ones right to speech. It is an overt attempt to grab attention or agitate. (I will give you a moment to look those up as well)
Say what you will. You have that right. But there is no need to be a liar in addition to being a boor.
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Deep, I'm glad you’re the one everyone needs to look for to figure out who's who on the board. I don't do anything for a reaction; I posted what I thought about the cd and the singles that was previously released. It is you and Darth and a couple of others that attack someone for giving their honest opinion about the cd, it is you and they that try for a reaction. I never once called anyone a name or made a derogatory comment to or about anyone. I gave my honest opinion and because it wasn't a positive cool aid drinking opinion I am attacked for it.
I don't care what Judas Priest is trying to achieve with this cd, it sucks. I am one that likes music that is inspiring and entertaining, nothing in this cd is entertaining. I hate the guitar sound, I hate the guitar work, and I hate all the slow dragged out songs that sounds like the one before it. I don't like the vocals, it's a lame attempt at opera, and they are completely out of place. I don't like the cd and I don't need to leave the board because you or anyone else doesn't like what I say. If you and Darth can't handle what people say then it is you and he that needs to leave.
I am now, always have been, and always will be a Judas Priest fan, but I hate them for recording this cd and few others. Just because you write something that so completely different then anything anyone else has ever done, doesn't automatically make it something great. IMO they failed with this cd, if you or anyone else can't handle my opinion then TFB!
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I think it is more than obvious that Mr. Ward is still craving attention. If you recall, he made inflammatory remarks many weeks ago and was called out on it then as well. This is not a person that anyone should consider a valid source of musical knowledge. We are not talking the R&D man at Sony here, people! This is a person that is simply looking for a reaction, and it appears there are many that are more than willing to oblige.
Look, if the guy does not like the album, fine. He has every right to his opinion! I can accept that there are probably many more just like him in this world. However, you will note that most of them do not come here to the official site and bash on the Band. Clearly, we have an attention seeker on our hands. Worse yet, we are lending him credence by responding!
I know there are many of you that have been members of this site long enough to have seen this schtick more than once. I can remember some that were actually intelligent and presented an argument worthy of debate. I fear that is not the case with young Mr. Ward. Further discussion or counter-argument with this individual is the mental equivalent of debate with an Australian bushman regarding the intricasies of compound interest and bond investment. It is simply a waste of your time! |
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| [Soylentgreen4u] Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:29:45 AM | |
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SOUNDS INTRIGUING...I WON'T CHEAT HOWEVER...GOOD THAT YOU GOT IT EARLY,I'M GOING TO WAIT UNTIL TUESDAY HERE IN CANADA AND BUY THE C.D....LISTEN TO IT COMPLETELY AND THEN DECIDE FOR MYSELF...IF NOTHING ELSE,I'M POSITIVE I'LL APPRECIATE THE EFFORT PUT FORTH...A-1 YOU LIKE IT,HOPE I'LL FEEL THE SAME WAY...THEY'VE BEEN MY FAV SINCE '77,AND NOTHING WILL CHANGE THIS. 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Judas-Is-Rising from Sunday, June 15, 2008 12:58:37 AM)| | | Judas-Is-Rising wrote: | | The album is purely amazing, very powerful, moving, showing a lot more emotion than any other Priest album. The band has shown a hunger as big as Painkiller in writing and recording this masterpiece. Rob's vocals are spot on. I like his use of heavy raspy vocals, and his opera on other occasions, as well as his high pitch. He has shown diversity once again. KK has again given us some great killer guitar solos, with Glenn right up there, providing amazing soulful guitar work. Ian's bass is much more prominent on this album than on any other Priest CD and it really works much better this way. Scott's drumming is outstanding, ranging from simple groovy and funky, to highly technical and double bass assault. The abundance of synthesiser guitars, symphony, choir, accoustic guitars and keyboards did not drag Priest down on this one....it added more flavour to their enormous wall of sound and is right at home with the Priest metal sound. I must proudly say, this album is as metal as it can get. My favourite songs include Dawn On Creation / Prohpecy, Awakening / Revelations, The Four Horsemen / War, Peace / Conquest, Persecution, Shadows In The Flame / Visions, Calm Before The Storm / Nostradamus. Did Judas Priest make a masterpiece and a truly great metal album once again? HELL YES!!!
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The album is purely amazing, very powerful, moving, showing a lot more emotion than any other Priest album. The band has shown a hunger as big as Painkiller in writing and recording this masterpiece. Rob's vocals are spot on. I like his use of heavy raspy vocals, and his opera on other occasions, as well as his high pitch. He has shown diversity once again. KK has again given us some great killer guitar solos, with Glenn right up there, providing amazing soulful guitar work. Ian's bass is much more prominent on this album than on any other Priest CD and it really works much better this way. Scott's drumming is outstanding, ranging from simple groovy and funky, to highly technical and double bass assault. The abundance of synthesiser guitars, symphony, choir, accoustic guitars and keyboards did not drag Priest down on this one....it added more flavour to their enormous wall of sound and is right at home with the Priest metal sound. I must proudly say, this album is as metal as it can get. My favourite songs include Dawn On Creation / Prohpecy, Awakening / Revelations, The Four Horsemen / War, Peace / Conquest, Persecution, Shadows In The Flame / Visions, Calm Before The Storm / Nostradamus. Did Judas Priest make a masterpiece and a truly great metal album once again? HELL YES!!!
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| [Soylentgreen4u] Friday, June 13, 2008 7:17:48 PM | |
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GLOBAL WARMING POW WOW???...HEY,I'LL BE THERE...I'M A TREE HUGGER,UNLES OF COURSE THERE'S CACTI...THEN OUUUUUUUUUCH!!!! ....BESIDES,MAYBE THEY'LL BE A LOVE-IN OR SOMETHING,I'VE MET SOME REAL BABES AT THESE THINGS!!! WOOHOOOOOOO!!! 
(ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE)  ...YES I'M BEING SILLY...BUT THAT'S WHAT I DO. 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Rob Ward from Friday, June 13, 2008 6:45:12 PM)| | | Rob Ward wrote: | | Gee Deep, however did I come to that conclusion? Maybe this will refresh your memory;
"I think it is more than obvious that Mr. Ward is still craving attention. If you recall, he made inflammatory remarks many weeks ago and was called out on it then as well. This is not a person that anyone should consider a valid source of musical knowledge. We are not talking the R&D man at Sony here, people! This is a person that is simply looking for a reaction, and it appears there are many that are more than willing to oblige."
Or how about this part?
"Look, if the guy does not like the album, fine. He has every right to his opinion! I can accept that there are probably many more just like him in this world. However, you will note that most of them do not come here to the official site and bash on the Band. Clearly, we have an attention seeker on our hands. Worse yet, we are lending him credence by responding!"
Or how about this part when you call me stupid?
I know there are many of you that have been members of this site long enough to have seen this schtick more than once. I can remember some that were actually intelligent and presented an argument worthy of debate. I fear that is not the case with young Mr. Ward. Further discussion or counter-argument with this individual is the mental equivalent of debate with an Australian bushman regarding the intricasies of compound interest and bond investment. It is simply a waste of your time!
Why is it that you prefer for me to ignore you, but you couldn't find the restraint to do it yourself in the first place? Are you above being responded to? Let me guess you’re a liberal aren't you?
BTW, I'm 40 years old; you can save your speeches for your global warming POW WOW, and lets see the inflammatory remarks I made a few weeks ago.
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, June 13, 2008 10:40:10 AM)
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Indeed. I fail to see how it is that you can even suggest that I have "attacked" you or anyone else for that matter. In fact, I clearly stated that you are entitled to your opinion of the new album, did I not? I could not care less if you have a "reaction" to me or not. I would quite prefer you ignore me. I see that you have been here five years and yet you have ONE friend?? It is no surprise.
I stand by my previous comments. Your remarks were NOT of a constructive nature but rather, they were meant to cause discord; at this point and time I can honestly say I hate Judas Priest. THAT is a musical opinion??? Perhaps you should spend a bit more time in class (or should have) to get a clearer understanding of the words we use in the English language? By any standard, you could certainly use a lesson or two in manners.
I do not believe that it was I who asked for you to "leave". I certainly do not care if you are here or you are not. As I have mentioned before, it is not up to me and your ilk have come and gone so many times I have lost count. But, when one comes to an OFFICIAL site and expresses "hate" for the site's subject, I tend to believe it is not about having an opinion or exercising ones right to speech. It is an overt attempt to grab attention or agitate. (I will give you a moment to look those up as well)
Say what you will. You have that right. But there is no need to be a liar in addition to being a boor.
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Deep, I'm glad you’re the one everyone needs to look for to figure out who's who on the board. I don't do anything for a reaction; I posted what I thought about the cd and the singles that was previously released. It is you and Darth and a couple of others that attack someone for giving their honest opinion about the cd, it is you and they that try for a reaction. I never once called anyone a name or made a derogatory comment to or about anyone. I gave my honest opinion and because it wasn't a positive cool aid drinking opinion I am attacked for it.
I don't care what Judas Priest is trying to achieve with this cd, it sucks. I am one that likes music that is inspiring and entertaining, nothing in this cd is entertaining. I hate the guitar sound, I hate the guitar work, and I hate all the slow dragged out songs that sounds like the one before it. I don't like the vocals, it's a lame attempt at opera, and they are completely out of place. I don't like the cd and I don't need to leave the board because you or anyone else doesn't like what I say. If you and Darth can't handle what people say then it is you and he that needs to leave.
I am now, always have been, and always will be a Judas Priest fan, but I hate them for recording this cd and few others. Just because you write something that so completely different then anything anyone else has ever done, doesn't automatically make it something great. IMO they failed with this cd, if you or anyone else can't handle my opinion then TFB!
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I think it is more than obvious that Mr. Ward is still craving attention. If you recall, he made inflammatory remarks many weeks ago and was called out on it then as well. This is not a person that anyone should consider a valid source of musical knowledge. We are not talking the R&D man at Sony here, people! This is a person that is simply looking for a reaction, and it appears there are many that are more than willing to oblige.
Look, if the guy does not like the album, fine. He has every right to his opinion! I can accept that there are probably many more just like him in this world. However, you will note that most of them do not come here to the official site and bash on the Band. Clearly, we have an attention seeker on our hands. Worse yet, we are lending him credence by responding!
I know there are many of you that have been members of this site long enough to have seen this schtick more than once. I can remember some that were actually intelligent and presented an argument worthy of debate. I fear that is not the case with young Mr. Ward. Further discussion or counter-argument with this individual is the mental equivalent of debate with an Australian bushman regarding the intricasies of compound interest and bond investment. It is simply a waste of your time! |
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Gee Deep, however did I come to that conclusion? Maybe this will refresh your memory;
"I think it is more than obvious that Mr. Ward is still craving attention. If you recall, he made inflammatory remarks many weeks ago and was called out on it then as well. This is not a person that anyone should consider a valid source of musical knowledge. We are not talking the R&D man at Sony here, people! This is a person that is simply looking for a reaction, and it appears there are many that are more than willing to oblige."
Or how about this part?
"Look, if the guy does not like the album, fine. He has every right to his opinion! I can accept that there are probably many more just like him in this world. However, you will note that most of them do not come here to the official site and bash on the Band. Clearly, we have an attention seeker on our hands. Worse yet, we are lending him credence by responding!"
Or how about this part when you call me stupid?
I know there are many of you that have been members of this site long enough to have seen this schtick more than once. I can remember some that were actually intelligent and presented an argument worthy of debate. I fear that is not the case with young Mr. Ward. Further discussion or counter-argument with this individual is the mental equivalent of debate with an Australian bushman regarding the intricasies of compound interest and bond investment. It is simply a waste of your time!
Why is it that you prefer for me to ignore you, but you couldn't find the restraint to do it yourself in the first place? Are you above being responded to? Let me guess you’re a liberal aren't you?
BTW, I'm 40 years old; you can save your speeches for your global warming POW WOW, and lets see the inflammatory remarks I made a few weeks ago.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, June 13, 2008 10:40:10 AM)
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Indeed. I fail to see how it is that you can even suggest that I have "attacked" you or anyone else for that matter. In fact, I clearly stated that you are entitled to your opinion of the new album, did I not? I could not care less if you have a "reaction" to me or not. I would quite prefer you ignore me. I see that you have been here five years and yet you have ONE friend?? It is no surprise.
I stand by my previous comments. Your remarks were NOT of a constructive nature but rather, they were meant to cause discord; at this point and time I can honestly say I hate Judas Priest. THAT is a musical opinion??? Perhaps you should spend a bit more time in class (or should have) to get a clearer understanding of the words we use in the English language? By any standard, you could certainly use a lesson or two in manners.
I do not believe that it was I who asked for you to "leave". I certainly do not care if you are here or you are not. As I have mentioned before, it is not up to me and your ilk have come and gone so many times I have lost count. But, when one comes to an OFFICIAL site and expresses "hate" for the site's subject, I tend to believe it is not about having an opinion or exercising ones right to speech. It is an overt attempt to grab attention or agitate. (I will give you a moment to look those up as well)
Say what you will. You have that right. But there is no need to be a liar in addition to being a boor.
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Deep, I'm glad you’re the one everyone needs to look for to figure out who's who on the board. I don't do anything for a reaction; I posted what I thought about the cd and the singles that was previously released. It is you and Darth and a couple of others that attack someone for giving their honest opinion about the cd, it is you and they that try for a reaction. I never once called anyone a name or made a derogatory comment to or about anyone. I gave my honest opinion and because it wasn't a positive cool aid drinking opinion I am attacked for it.
I don't care what Judas Priest is trying to achieve with this cd, it sucks. I am one that likes music that is inspiring and entertaining, nothing in this cd is entertaining. I hate the guitar sound, I hate the guitar work, and I hate all the slow dragged out songs that sounds like the one before it. I don't like the vocals, it's a lame attempt at opera, and they are completely out of place. I don't like the cd and I don't need to leave the board because you or anyone else doesn't like what I say. If you and Darth can't handle what people say then it is you and he that needs to leave.
I am now, always have been, and always will be a Judas Priest fan, but I hate them for recording this cd and few others. Just because you write something that so completely different then anything anyone else has ever done, doesn't automatically make it something great. IMO they failed with this cd, if you or anyone else can't handle my opinion then TFB!
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I think it is more than obvious that Mr. Ward is still craving attention. If you recall, he made inflammatory remarks many weeks ago and was called out on it then as well. This is not a person that anyone should consider a valid source of musical knowledge. We are not talking the R&D man at Sony here, people! This is a person that is simply looking for a reaction, and it appears there are many that are more than willing to oblige.
Look, if the guy does not like the album, fine. He has every right to his opinion! I can accept that there are probably many more just like him in this world. However, you will note that most of them do not come here to the official site and bash on the Band. Clearly, we have an attention seeker on our hands. Worse yet, we are lending him credence by responding!
I know there are many of you that have been members of this site long enough to have seen this schtick more than once. I can remember some that were actually intelligent and presented an argument worthy of debate. I fear that is not the case with young Mr. Ward. Further discussion or counter-argument with this individual is the mental equivalent of debate with an Australian bushman regarding the intricasies of compound interest and bond investment. It is simply a waste of your time! |
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| [Rob Ward] Friday, June 13, 2008 6:30:02 PM | |
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Darth turn down the large fonts and then we can talk about who's the attention getter. Yeah 63 posts in 5 years, I'm out to start trouble everyday. Good Grief can you say snob?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Darth_Painkiller_0870 from Friday, June 13, 2008 4:06:00 AM)| | | Darth_Painkiller_0870 wrote: | | TFB eh? Is that the best you can do, Rob? Aside from your constant negativity and mad ramblings? Priest fan indeed! No, Freeze hit it right on the head...you are an attention getter. Just looking back through your posts and it's clearly evident that's what you are.
| | | Rob Ward wrote: | | Darth I'm glad your so much better then everyone else because you love a crappy cd, let me know when it's ok with you for me to return. I didn't know you had to say everything positive about a band to be a fan.
| | | Darth_Painkiller_0870 wrote: | | Okay, I haven't been a Priest fan for 20 or 30 years like most of you. However, Druzul, creating your own thread to review the CD when there are already threads out there regarding it is wasteful and ridiculous.
Regarding the haters: I think you guys are crazy. Plain and simple. Rob reminds me of the haters who used to frequent the noticeboard and harrassed Jayne when she was on here. The reason that Judas Priest are saying to listen to the CD twice before forming your opinion on it, is simply because there is so much going on in it. Personally, I've listened to it twice now, and I'm super-fucking happy as a pig in mud to hear something so melodious and well-written. Halford's vocals are top notch and the band's music on the CD is more diverse and well-composed.
Rob Ward, you ramble way too much dude. We get that you hate Judas Priest now. So, just do us all a favor and leave. |
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| [DemonCat] Friday, June 13, 2008 11:04:57 AM | |
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I try DF. It usually backfires online however. I have a higher success rate of defusing situations in person.
How have you been DF?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, June 13, 2008 11:02:15 AM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | | Very wise, DC. Very wise indeed. |
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| [Deep Freeze] Friday, June 13, 2008 11:02:15 AM | |
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| Very wise, DC. Very wise indeed. |
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| [DemonCat] Friday, June 13, 2008 10:51:29 AM | |
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I'm stepping back out of the middle of this one. I was hoping for a quick resolution was why I posted what I did. I pray this will be the end of the discussion, as I myself have missed being here, and the friends I've made. Unfortunately I know all too well that every action is going to get a reaction, and it could go on for days.
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| [Deep Freeze] Friday, June 13, 2008 10:40:10 AM | |
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Indeed. I fail to see how it is that you can even suggest that I have "attacked" you or anyone else for that matter. In fact, I clearly stated that you are entitled to your opinion of the new album, did I not? I could not care less if you have a "reaction" to me or not. I would quite prefer you ignore me. I see that you have been here five years and yet you have ONE friend?? It is no surprise.
I stand by my previous comments. Your remarks were NOT of a constructive nature but rather, they were meant to cause discord; at this point and time I can honestly say I hate Judas Priest. THAT is a musical opinion??? Perhaps you should spend a bit more time in class (or should have) to get a clearer understanding of the words we use in the English language? By any standard, you could certainly use a lesson or two in manners.
I do not believe that it was I who asked for you to "leave". I certainly do not care if you are here or you are not. As I have mentioned before, it is not up to me and your ilk have come and gone so many times I have lost count. But, when one comes to an OFFICIAL site and expresses "hate" for the site's subject, I tend to believe it is not about having an opinion or exercising ones right to speech. It is an overt attempt to grab attention or agitate. (I will give you a moment to look those up as well)
Say what you will. You have that right. But there is no need to be a liar in addition to being a boor.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Rob Ward from Thursday, June 12, 2008 7:14:01 PM)| | | Rob Ward wrote: | | Deep, I'm glad you’re the one everyone needs to look for to figure out who's who on the board. I don't do anything for a reaction; I posted what I thought about the cd and the singles that was previously released. It is you and Darth and a couple of others that attack someone for giving their honest opinion about the cd, it is you and they that try for a reaction. I never once called anyone a name or made a derogatory comment to or about anyone. I gave my honest opinion and because it wasn't a positive cool aid drinking opinion I am attacked for it.
I don't care what Judas Priest is trying to achieve with this cd, it sucks. I am one that likes music that is inspiring and entertaining, nothing in this cd is entertaining. I hate the guitar sound, I hate the guitar work, and I hate all the slow dragged out songs that sounds like the one before it. I don't like the vocals, it's a lame attempt at opera, and they are completely out of place. I don't like the cd and I don't need to leave the board because you or anyone else doesn't like what I say. If you and Darth can't handle what people say then it is you and he that needs to leave.
I am now, always have been, and always will be a Judas Priest fan, but I hate them for recording this cd and few others. Just because you write something that so completely different then anything anyone else has ever done, doesn't automatically make it something great. IMO they failed with this cd, if you or anyone else can't handle my opinion then TFB!
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | I think it is more than obvious that Mr. Ward is still craving attention. If you recall, he made inflammatory remarks many weeks ago and was called out on it then as well. This is not a person that anyone should consider a valid source of musical knowledge. We are not talking the R&D man at Sony here, people! This is a person that is simply looking for a reaction, and it appears there are many that are more than willing to oblige.
Look, if the guy does not like the album, fine. He has every right to his opinion! I can accept that there are probably many more just like him in this world. However, you will note that most of them do not come here to the official site and bash on the Band. Clearly, we have an attention seeker on our hands. Worse yet, we are lending him credence by responding!
I know there are many of you that have been members of this site long enough to have seen this schtick more than once. I can remember some that were actually intelligent and presented an argument worthy of debate. I fear that is not the case with young Mr. Ward. Further discussion or counter-argument with this individual is the mental equivalent of debate with an Australian bushman regarding the intricasies of compound interest and bond investment. It is simply a waste of your time! |
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| [Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Friday, June 13, 2008 4:06:00 AM | |
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TFB eh? Is that the best you can do, Rob? Aside from your constant negativity and mad ramblings? Priest fan indeed! No, Freeze hit it right on the head...you are an attention getter. Just looking back through your posts and it's clearly evident that's what you are.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Rob Ward from Thursday, June 12, 2008 6:52:14 PM)| | | Rob Ward wrote: | | Darth I'm glad your so much better then everyone else because you love a crappy cd, let me know when it's ok with you for me to return. I didn't know you had to say everything positive about a band to be a fan.
| | | Darth_Painkiller_0870 wrote: | | Okay, I haven't been a Priest fan for 20 or 30 years like most of you. However, Druzul, creating your own thread to review the CD when there are already threads out there regarding it is wasteful and ridiculous.
Regarding the haters: I think you guys are crazy. Plain and simple. Rob reminds me of the haters who used to frequent the noticeboard and harrassed Jayne when she was on here. The reason that Judas Priest are saying to listen to the CD twice before forming your opinion on it, is simply because there is so much going on in it. Personally, I've listened to it twice now, and I'm super-fucking happy as a pig in mud to hear something so melodious and well-written. Halford's vocals are top notch and the band's music on the CD is more diverse and well-composed.
Rob Ward, you ramble way too much dude. We get that you hate Judas Priest now. So, just do us all a favor and leave. |
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| [DemonCat] Friday, June 13, 2008 2:33:32 AM | |
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I figured TFB meant Too Fucking Bad. He also clarified that he meant he hated this latest style (along with some others in the past) of Priest music.
The rest of this message is directed towards everyone who's reacting negatively in here lately towards other members.
I don't see why Rob's being given the third degree, and a hard time for having/sharing an opinion. I happen to love Turbo for example, yet I don't question others opinions, and put them down for it. Rather I respect their opinion, and I'm quite dissapointed at some of the reactions here lately. No one has to love every cd Priest puts out to be a fan. Some are simply a fan of an era perhaps. There are many different levels of how much an individual likes/loves this band. No one here can say what's in anothers heart, and their feelings towards this band. That's up to an individual to share with us, and we either take their word, or don't.
I think we all should focus on getting along, and attempting to understand each other, rather than attack each other. When one's put on the defensive...that individual may never explain what he/she meant, but instead becomes a battle of words, and what gets lost is why we are a member here in the first place, and that's to talk about the band we love enough to join this site. So I wish we all could just relaxe, and attempt to understand, and respect each other, and their opinions.
Thank you...Jeff
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:02:02 PM)
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just curious, whats TFB?
I fail to understand how one can be a fan and hate at the same time, but, thats your bit.
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Deep, I'm glad you’re the one everyone needs to look for to figure out who's who on the board. I don't do anything for a reaction; I posted what I thought about the cd and the singles that was previously released. It is you and Darth and a couple of others that attack someone for giving their honest opinion about the cd, it is you and they that try for a reaction. I never once called anyone a name or made a derogatory comment to or about anyone. I gave my honest opinion and because it wasn't a positive cool aid drinking opinion I am attacked for it.
I don't care what Judas Priest is trying to achieve with this cd, it sucks. I am one that likes music that is inspiring and entertaining, nothing in this cd is entertaining. I hate the guitar sound, I hate the guitar work, and I hate all the slow dragged out songs that sounds like the one before it. I don't like the vocals, it's a lame attempt at opera, and they are completely out of place. I don't like the cd and I don't need to leave the board because you or anyone else doesn't like what I say. If you and Darth can't handle what people say then it is you and he that needs to leave.
I am now, always have been, and always will be a Judas Priest fan, but I hate them for recording this cd and few others. Just because you write something that so completely different then anything anyone else has ever done, doesn't automatically make it something great. IMO they failed with this cd, if you or anyone else can't handle my opinion then TFB!
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I think it is more than obvious that Mr. Ward is still craving attention. If you recall, he made inflammatory remarks many weeks ago and was called out on it then as well. This is not a person that anyone should consider a valid source of musical knowledge. We are not talking the R&D man at Sony here, people! This is a person that is simply looking for a reaction, and it appears there are many that are more than willing to oblige.
Look, if the guy does not like the album, fine. He has every right to his opinion! I can accept that there are probably many more just like him in this world. However, you will note that most of them do not come here to the official site and bash on the Band. Clearly, we have an attention seeker on our hands. Worse yet, we are lending him credence by responding!
I know there are many of you that have been members of this site long enough to have seen this schtick more than once. I can remember some that were actually intelligent and presented an argument worthy of debate. I fear that is not the case with young Mr. Ward. Further discussion or counter-argument with this individual is the mental equivalent of debate with an Australian bushman regarding the intricasies of compound interest and bond investment. It is simply a waste of your time! |
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just curious, whats TFB?
I fail to understand how one can be a fan and hate at the same time, but, thats your bit.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Rob Ward from Thursday, June 12, 2008 7:14:01 PM)| | | Rob Ward wrote: | | Deep, I'm glad you’re the one everyone needs to look for to figure out who's who on the board. I don't do anything for a reaction; I posted what I thought about the cd and the singles that was previously released. It is you and Darth and a couple of others that attack someone for giving their honest opinion about the cd, it is you and they that try for a reaction. I never once called anyone a name or made a derogatory comment to or about anyone. I gave my honest opinion and because it wasn't a positive cool aid drinking opinion I am attacked for it.
I don't care what Judas Priest is trying to achieve with this cd, it sucks. I am one that likes music that is inspiring and entertaining, nothing in this cd is entertaining. I hate the guitar sound, I hate the guitar work, and I hate all the slow dragged out songs that sounds like the one before it. I don't like the vocals, it's a lame attempt at opera, and they are completely out of place. I don't like the cd and I don't need to leave the board because you or anyone else doesn't like what I say. If you and Darth can't handle what people say then it is you and he that needs to leave.
I am now, always have been, and always will be a Judas Priest fan, but I hate them for recording this cd and few others. Just because you write something that so completely different then anything anyone else has ever done, doesn't automatically make it something great. IMO they failed with this cd, if you or anyone else can't handle my opinion then TFB!
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | I think it is more than obvious that Mr. Ward is still craving attention. If you recall, he made inflammatory remarks many weeks ago and was called out on it then as well. This is not a person that anyone should consider a valid source of musical knowledge. We are not talking the R&D man at Sony here, people! This is a person that is simply looking for a reaction, and it appears there are many that are more than willing to oblige.
Look, if the guy does not like the album, fine. He has every right to his opinion! I can accept that there are probably many more just like him in this world. However, you will note that most of them do not come here to the official site and bash on the Band. Clearly, we have an attention seeker on our hands. Worse yet, we are lending him credence by responding!
I know there are many of you that have been members of this site long enough to have seen this schtick more than once. I can remember some that were actually intelligent and presented an argument worthy of debate. I fear that is not the case with young Mr. Ward. Further discussion or counter-argument with this individual is the mental equivalent of debate with an Australian bushman regarding the intricasies of compound interest and bond investment. It is simply a waste of your time! |
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| [DemonCat] Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:50:46 PM | |
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This is what I've waited 3 years for?!!!
I've tried to listen to the "leak" of Nostradamus twice now. The first time I made it to song #16, and the 2nd time...song #12. I was hoping it would get better the 2nd time, but it didn't. Rob's voice is gone down the tubes. He's singing in a very limited vocal range, and I'm afraid it will only get worse from here. The few times he tries to hit a higher note, his voice strains to reach it, and I can almost hear it crack.
I will eventually hear it all, but for now...I'm quite dissapointed that I spent money for the deluxe edition. It doesn't sound like it will be worth $42 I spent.
I hope the book, and poster are better than the cd!
I am a diehard Priest fan since 1986, and this is not how I wanted Priest to end.  I want my hard-assed headbangin' Judas Priest style heavy metal back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| [codynstuff] Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:11:31 PM | |
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Deep, I'm glad you’re the one everyone needs to look for to figure out who's who on the board. I don't do anything for a reaction; I posted what I thought about the cd and the singles that was previously released. It is you and Darth and a couple of others that attack someone for giving their honest opinion about the cd, it is you and they that try for a reaction. I never once called anyone a name or made a derogatory comment to or about anyone. I gave my honest opinion and because it wasn't a positive cool aid drinking opinion I am attacked for it.
I don't care what Judas Priest is trying to achieve with this cd, it sucks. I am one that likes music that is inspiring and entertaining, nothing in this cd is entertaining. I hate the guitar sound, I hate the guitar work, and I hate all the slow dragged out songs that sounds like the one before it. I don't like the vocals, it's a lame attempt at opera, and they are completely out of place. I don't like the cd and I don't need to leave the board because you or anyone else doesn't like what I say. If you and Darth can't handle what people say then it is you and he that needs to leave.
I am now, always have been, and always will be a Judas Priest fan, but I hate them for recording this cd and few others. Just because you write something that so completely different then anything anyone else has ever done, doesn't automatically make it something great. IMO they failed with this cd, if you or anyone else can't handle my opinion then TFB!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:41:00 AM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | I think it is more than obvious that Mr. Ward is still craving attention. If you recall, he made inflammatory remarks many weeks ago and was called out on it then as well. This is not a person that anyone should consider a valid source of musical knowledge. We are not talking the R&D man at Sony here, people! This is a person that is simply looking for a reaction, and it appears there are many that are more than willing to oblige.
Look, if the guy does not like the album, fine. He has every right to his opinion! I can accept that there are probably many more just like him in this world. However, you will note that most of them do not come here to the official site and bash on the Band. Clearly, we have an attention seeker on our hands. Worse yet, we are lending him credence by responding!
I know there are many of you that have been members of this site long enough to have seen this schtick more than once. I can remember some that were actually intelligent and presented an argument worthy of debate. I fear that is not the case with young Mr. Ward. Further discussion or counter-argument with this individual is the mental equivalent of debate with an Australian bushman regarding the intricasies of compound interest and bond investment. It is simply a waste of your time! |
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| [JayDee Jepsen] Thursday, June 12, 2008 6:58:46 PM | |
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Put my foot in my mouth! **An apology to the JP fans of this site.**
I recently wrote a very harsh review of the Nostradamus cd based on my first listent to "LEAKS" on MTV.com. Being a long time head-banger and fan of Priest I was spoiled with hard crunching riffs and ear-piercing screams of past Priest cds so when I first listened to the cd via the "leaks" I was a bit turned upside down by their new sound. After I shut my mouth and opened my ears, I listened for a second and now I'm on my third time through (even as I write this) and I have to say the more I listen, the more I'm stunned by the depth and versitility of the music. It's nothing I would have expected but now greatly appreciate and even enjoy more! The more I listen, the more I like it. Nostradamus is not the super fast paced metal I expected...............It's so much more! I'm really enjoying song 10 "Peace".
So to all those I may have offended I'm sorry to have so quickly judged the new cd. It really is fucking good and gets better after several listens!
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| [Rob Ward] Thursday, June 12, 2008 6:52:14 PM | |
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Darth I'm glad your so much better then everyone else because you love a crappy cd, let me know when it's ok with you for me to return. I didn't know you had to say everything positive about a band to be a fan.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Darth_Painkiller_0870 from Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:57:54 AM)| | | Darth_Painkiller_0870 wrote: | | Okay, I haven't been a Priest fan for 20 or 30 years like most of you. However, Druzul, creating your own thread to review the CD when there are already threads out there regarding it is wasteful and ridiculous.
Regarding the haters: I think you guys are crazy. Plain and simple. Rob reminds me of the haters who used to frequent the noticeboard and harrassed Jayne when she was on here. The reason that Judas Priest are saying to listen to the CD twice before forming your opinion on it, is simply because there is so much going on in it. Personally, I've listened to it twice now, and I'm super-fucking happy as a pig in mud to hear something so melodious and well-written. Halford's vocals are top notch and the band's music on the CD is more diverse and well-composed.
Rob Ward, you ramble way too much dude. We get that you hate Judas Priest now. So, just do us all a favor and leave. |
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